>men want a virgin that'll be a slut for themWomen really think that's a gotcha. No shit I want my woman to be a slut for me but not a slut for other menAre they pretending to not understand or are they that retarded?
>a slut for exclusively 1 personI don't think that's how it works, babe.
They are just pointing out that those qualities are inherently non compatible with each other. Being a slut requires confidence and skill, which are earned from having lot of sex and in part, being desensitized to it. Its like women wanting men who are beast in bed but gentlemen in the streets; or them wanting both a rich and a generous man. None of this will ever happen, keep your stupid fantasies fenced in your head.
>>84707152Troons/men are pretty retarded about this. If a woman is virgin but not religious the most usual reason is her being asexual on some level. You should not expect an adult female virgin to be sexual like a normal women.If you want a sexual woman just date an experienced woman. Troons/incels never understand this thanks to their astonishingly low IQ.
>>84707171>They are just pointing out that those qualities are inherently non compatible with each otherThey're really not. Complete opposite actually
>>84707152>Are they pretending to not understand or are they that retarded?their brains are wired differently so they can't understand why men care about this. it's also difficult to assess a man properly before you give him sex, because they often undertake grand deceptions of women in order to get it from them.>>84707171>They are just pointing out that those qualities are inherently non compatible with each other. Being a slut requires confidence and skill, which are earned from having lot of sex and in part, being desensitized to it.all of this is false>>84707164he got the point across>>84707174you fail to understand the premise
Look at the three first replies. Subhumans that can't think someone can both have high sex drive and control themselvesSuch people aren't even humans, just lowly animals without control
>>84707152Women arent brought up with the idea of self control except for the one you truly love anymore. One of the most popular tropes is about multiple suitors vying for them, all while knowing about eachother, like twilight. It's just the idea of a passionate partner that doesnt participate in hookup culture. The women that pretend to not understand are starfishers anyway.
>>84707152I can only conclude that women actually believe that they don't have the discipline to control their own sex drives. Either they have a low sex drive, or they HAVE to be whores and hop on a different dick every weekend.
>>84707174asexual women are all rape victims. i've never met an exception inter-personally and if anyone here says so you should assume they are larping to save face. asexuality is not a real, its a symptom of trauma.
>>84707254>t. hon that only posts bait5/10
>>84707190>>84707198> 2+2 equals 4> no this is actualy compeltely wrong because I decided it is actually 8You are just really stupid you know that? Because you are stupid people will be forever appaled by the fact that you dare to speak at all. Stupid people shouldn't talk.
>>84707174>astonishingly low IQ >believing in asexuality lollmao even
>>84707239>>84707236>>84707204People are not motivated by your dumb fantasies about some magical shit, they are motivated by self interest. You dumbass.
So both cuckservatives and libtards agree that women don't have agency and self control?
>>84707296Agency is just a presence of personal desire and ability to recognize it, all human have agency unless in vegetative state.
>>84707296Often that's what they argue, but when you bring it up they try to argue against it, only to reinforce it. It's pretty sad.
>>84707262not bait, its true. same goes for asexual men as well. can also be a symptom of SSRI's or other medical conditions i suppose. but it's not a "sexuality". retarded concept.
>>84707296Yeah pretty much. It's funny how often this happens actually>>84707293If you don't think sex drive is a common form of self interest idk what to tell you
>>84707296Virgins are virgins because they dont want to be slut. Not for you, not in general. I wouldnt go as far as claim direct asexuality, but their ideas about sex will still oppose the ideas that makes slutiness possible. This IS the agency of a virgin woman. She wont give it up for you. If she felt that being slut in any way is ok, she would just do that and receive endless gifts and simping from desperate men online. If one has a slutty gene there is no reason to not utilize it for profits, in fact it would be stupid to just let all this desire gnaw at you when you could be using it gather hordes of simps, sex and money. It like being thirsty in the first world country and refusing to drink tap water. Those who do are various degrees of insane.
>>84707335Having a sex drive and not using it to have sex, is opposing self interest. No, you are not so special that you and you only are desirable to her in the whole world. If you want a virgin you have to settle on the one who finds no one desirable.
>>84707152I'd totally be a slut for the guy I love.
>>84707296No one has self control, hence why 70% of america is fat
>>84707164It works like that
>>84707164>>84707171>Exclusivity doesn't existWhat kind of retardation is this? Of course, women can be sluts for a single guy. How do you think they learn to be sluts? Sex can be had hundreds of times with the same guy. A dick doesn't stop working just because you become more experienced in sex. An inexperienced guy isn't going to be inexperienced last the first few times.
>>84707152Women admit they're all whores and then get mad if you say they're all whores
>>84707454>>Exclusivity doesn't existIt doesn't exist quite literally. Absolutely 0 thing in this world are actually exclusive. Everything that can be created and used will be created and used by multiple people.> How do you think they learn to be sluts? I already pointed out that this requires being DESENSITIZED. That needs multiple people to barrage her because women gauge adequacy of things based on its prevalence on the population. What I mean is that quite literally if only you say "its alright" it doesn't count in her brains. She need at least three people to reaffirm this opinion until she accepts it.
>>84707368So you agree that I am entirely correct and women are incapable of choosing to not be whores. Thanks for letting me know, once again, that I am always right
>>84707693It is not about capacity, it is about lacking reason. There is no reason not to be a whore if you can, simple as.
>>84707368That's retarded, just because you've potential to do something does not mean you should. Following that logic, every woman slightly above average should be prostitutes, because thousands of men would give them money
>>84707627Well of course they do. Women don't care about reality, they care about framing. That's why they clap like seals when some girlboss says "for most of history women have only needed men for money, and now that women don't need money from men anymore they can't measure up!" but get mad when Andrew Tate says "yeah women only want you for your money so get rich or die a virgin." Even though those two statements are objectively saying the same thing about women, it's only the framing they care about
>>84707660I just reuse to believe that an inherent need for exclusivity and basic pair bonding isn't an evolutionary trait that females have. There's a reason we are hurt if we are rejected or we are single. It's because we need or desire someone. And women should seek to desire them exclusively if they're to get pregnant and have someone provide for and take care of their kids. Women whoring themselves out to multiple men just to know it's okay to be a slut makes absolutely no evolutionary sense.
>>84707789> just to know it's okay to be slutVery low iq take. Can you not see the larger context?A whore sluts because this is her nature.a virgins virgins because this is her nature.If you take a 20+ sth Virgin virgins then this is her nature.There is no an in between there. If you want to change her virgin nature, then you will need to teach her that by practice. To give her an experience that shatters her childhood instilled ideas about sex. You won't be able that alone it will only start to be defined when reaffirmed by other people.> And women should seek to desire them exclusively if they're to get pregnant and have someone provide for and take care of their kidSays should who? Children are much easier to deal with when shared with increasingly bigger amounts of people. Women provide 70% of calories in modern day trials, it is more beneficial for them to not real on men but instead other women for childcare.
>>84708509>If you want to change her virgin nature, then you will need to teach her that by practice. To give her an experience that shatters her childhood instilled ideas about sex. You won't be able that alone it will only start to be defined when reaffirmed by other people.The moment a woman loses her virginity to a man, she is defiled. The moment she gains more experience with that man, she is defiled further. She is a slut the moment she starts craving cock at any point in her life. The woman won't have childhood instill ideas about sex the moment you have sex with her. The women who still act like saints because religion told them so have religious husbands who require them to act like saints. Me and you both know that women are not saints when they start having sex anon. One more thing, women have a choice about whether they should sleep with one man or multiple. They don't whore themselves out in the sense simply because they wanted to see if it was okay. They whore themselves out because they like sex, and they choose to seek it with others that turn them on or would give them more experience. The only way to turn a modern woman on is to be different from other guys she's had in her past, so you usually have to be a top 10% Chad.
>>84707152No it's just that if a woman was capable of feeling strong enough attraction to someone like you to be a slut for then it's unlikely you will exclusively own or be the cause of those feelings or urges in a woman. A woman who has made it far into adulthood as a virgin are often (not always of course) either are staunchly religious and/or have extremely low libido and won't be able to match your desire. I understand wanting both extreme desire and extreme commitment, but your inexperience has lead you to crave extremes that rarely align perfectly in one individual. I would urge you to simply get to know women around you as individuals rather than walking around with a glass slipper for women to have to fit and getting tilted they were born with big feet.
>>84708877>The only way to turn a modern woman on is to be different from other guys she's had in her past, so you usually have to be a top 10% Chad.This is also precisely why it's not ideal for women to whore themselves out, or rather, ideally one would seek a virgin as opposed to a whore, even though we want the same thing in bed. Because that just makes it harder for any guy to lock them down, as their expectations massively increase from partner to partner.
>>84708913Women seek novelty. Also, that explains why sometimes very good looking women settle for average men or losers. These women rode the cock-carousel for so long that Chad becomes predictable and boring, and the only thing that's novel to them is a non-Chad.
>>84707152>You want the good part, but not the bad one! Got you, chud!
>>84708877> The woman won't have childhood instill ideas about sex the moment you have sex with her.Lmao you are genuinely dumb. The ideas will be already there because everyone knows what sex is before the first have it. If not by porn, other women will tell her all she needs to know 100%. My first formative experience of sex was buying teenage girls magazine and reading with awe how it described the process of losing virginity. At this point I was 7.> a woman is defiled the moment she has sexOnly in inflamed moid brain. For the woman herself, nothing changes about how she sees herself or the world.
> ppl: no, roastie, you can't have a Chad and him to be loyal too. If a man is beautiful he has options and will thus automatically cheat> op: NOOOO So it means you imply that all men have no self-control and are inborn traitors? He can't choose just to stay loyal? Lmao full moid genocide> op: Why do inkwells constantly seethe when I explain that I want my cake and eat it too? Can't they understand? Are they stupid? This is how this thread reads by the way. Is this what they mean when they say that robots are foidbrained?
>>84709331>My first formative experience of sex was buying teenage girls magazine and reading with awe how it described the process of losing virginity. At this point I was 7.Good for you. Mine was watching porn, going to beg a maid that I bonded with for sex, she kept denying me. She would ask me why and I simply said I was curious. Occasionally I would try again until she actually said yes eventually. She was 14 and I was 9, we had sex a few more times after that until she left back to the country. It was the greatest experience of my life. I didn't have my first masturbation until long after I had my first sexual experience (which didn't do much to bring back the memories or pleasure obviously).She was not a virgin, even at that young age she was telling me stories of how she had sex with a Chad and how she was craving him.Anyways,>For the woman herself, nothing changes about how she sees herself or the world.Keep telling yourself that. A woman who has had dick will act entirely different from a woman who has had it. What do you suppose compelled a 14 yo girl to have sex with a 9 yo kid who could barely get a boner? Of course, the problem wasn't that she was a whore. I loved that part. The problem was that she wasn't exclusive to me. She left to seek out other Chads, and she found them and was impregnated in the last stories I heard about her.
>>84707152as a virgin fembot: my biggest fear in the world is being a "slut". i think it is the worst thing you can be as a woman. i hold on to my hymen like it's 24k gold. i have a sexuality obviously, but i know acting on it will ruin my life. i want to save myself for marriage. once i do get married, i will need to have sex but it will likely take me a very long time get used to being sexual and physical because in my mind, being a woman and having sex is extremely wrong. i am not religious either but this is just how i feel. it is also confusing what makes a woman a slut. it generally means a woman with a lot of sexual partners. that's disgusting and i am either going to die with a body count of 0 or 1. it will never go higher than that period. does a slut mean a woman who is willing to do anything in bed for a man? i am not that and i think that's an insulting thing to be. what if what he wants is creepy and gross? why do you want a woman to be a slut for you? why can't you just be normal?
The worst thing you can do to a woman is tell them that they shouldn't spread their legs to other men. Even raping them don't give such "ick"
>>84707152They're saying it's unrealistic when in reality that's how women are supposed to act around men they love. The problem is simply that women disrupt their natural hormones and are addicted to celebrities the average guy won't have any shot at looking like, sabotaging not only their own happiness but any guy who isn't Brad Pitt, Timothee Chalamet, Chris Hemsworth or Henry Cavill. Indeed, they would be virtuous sluts if it weren't for the fact that they aren't interested in their looksmatch, so they'll all share Chad and being massive whores for him but turn down men who'd commit....When you think about it, they do exactly what you're talking about, but for men who won't commit. Virginity or Chad-only.
>>84709555I think doing this for your own moral beliefs is well and good, but I always feel some concern over young folks like yourself who seem to have this idea that if you "do everything right" you will completely avoid hardship in relationships and that is almost never true. Plenty of good virgin men and women get together and sometimes it still doesn't work out. And if that happens where does your identity stand? Will you resent yourself, consider yourself a whore if the one true love doesn't quite pan out?
>>84709667Which is better to play russian roulette; a revolver with one bullet loaded or a revolver with four bullets loaded?
>>84709555How old are you, and where do you live? Are you religious? Is this a result of religion or your own personal morals? What do you look for in a man, and what are you doing to find yourself a partner? I'm quite interested in hearing your perspective.
>>84707152>slut In this case refers to actually enthusiasically participating. Guys dont want to fuck a dead star fish, who knew
>>84709667No relationship is safe, in fact nothing is safe. Just stepping outside there's a minuscule but existent chance of you getting shot or run over That being said, it's obvious that relationships not working out is magnitudes more likely to happen among whores than virgins
>>84707152same things as when women want men to be nice in public but rough and aggressive in bed
