I firmly belive that a benevolent God can't exist. Everything just sucks too fucking much for that to be the case. If anything close to God exsists, it's absolutely evil and created the worst world imaginable.Living in of itself means you suffer no matter what, barely anyone is ever truly happy and we are biologically hardwired not only to be afraid of death and have an instinct to want to keep living, BUT to create new life and bring others into this shithole of a world.No benevolent God would have created something this gay.
once upon a time, over a billion years ago, a cell ate another celland god said "yes. this is good. i love this. more."
>>84714489>>84714454god has to be a dumb nigger there's no way someone with this level of power made such a shit fucking existence.
You need to join up with your local chud army
>>84714454Research Neoplatonism bro
>>84714493He made it on purpose to torment us for his own retarded amusement and egoism, there is no other fucking way. Existence is too complex for something dumb to create it.
>>84714489And because he found something so retarded fun I now have to suffer? God is a massive faggot.
>>84714500Isn't platonism just>everything exists in it's perfect form in another dimension>our souls descended from that dimension into our bodies>they knew everything and when we gain new knowledge it's just our souls remembering shit that they forgot upon descending from that dimensionHow is that supposed to help me out?
>>84714619why does there have to be a god for complex things to exist
>>84714640There doesn't, I was just saying that if God exsists he can't be dumb considering how complex everything is, not that he has to exist because complexity is a thing
>>84714635Imagine a perfect world with no pain or suffering, an eternal Heaven. That is a world in total harmony with God. Since there is no pain or suffering here, there is absolutely no reason to be angry at God or rebel against the natural order.
>>84714454god doesn't exist. hope this helps.
>>84714762Reincarnation is born out of the desire live in the imperfect physical world away from God. You see?
>>84714813Since God is merciful, he lets this happen out of respect for your own choice. To get back into the perfect world with God, you must connect with him, and be good like God is good.
>>84714454God is the Gnostic Demiurge that feeds on human suffering, using Jews at the focal point of his magnifying glass, and Jesus as a dead sacrificial lamb
The Rebbe was a very pale Jew who descended from King David. God set up the entire thing using King David's lineage, which tended to be pale, to make a sacrificial lamb, who was Jesus. Using the Jews. Gnostic DemiurgeAbsurdity
gnostics are worse than christians with their make-believe bullshit
>>84714871So what are you then, a gaythiest?
>>84714762>>84714821If God was truly good or merciful he wouldn't drop you into a world this retarded and then say>suck my dick or suffer forever after you dieIf God was truly good he would create the world where we are guaranteed to be happy and live in bliss since he is all powerful, he can do it. But, no he spawned us in this shithole of a world just so he could stroke his ego because the sky faggot needed someone to worship him and tell him how awesome he is.
>>84714897gaytheists at least dont make shit up
>>84714871Things gnostics say make more sense then the retarded good God copium.
>>84714821>respecting our choiceWhat choice? If a god is all powerful and all knowing then creates something, that thing's entire existence has been defined by its creator.
>>84715087Everyone dies, and that's the problem. No one lives forever, so the cycle of life and death continues, providing for yourself no lasting value after death. What is the purpose of continuation of the species?
>>84715269Try to actually answer my question instead of spouting platitudes you sorta remember.>Why?Feels good mang
>>84715052Hell is temporary. If you have very bad karma because of your bad choices, you will reincarnate into a hell realm. It started with a state of bliss, but we rebelled against it, as I said previously.
>>84715369The book of Second Esdras says that all of humanity will die off. Why would ancient Judeo-Christian writers put that in the text? That's what will happen.
>>84715400I see you're incapable of engaging with this topic, maybe when you're older.
If someone can explain how the universe can come from nothing, I'll be open to it.
Man have free will. Bad men hurt you.
>>84715416The existence or non-existence of God doesn't matter. We all die, bro.
>>84714640Well you cant create something from nothing, going by our current understanding of basic science. Thats what makes it difficult to even consider when and how the start of the universe came to be, without some sort of creative force behind it. In any case this thread is silly, most lives are either okay or good the vast majority of the time and life has gotten so easy for many people today that they have to invent problems to get mad about in first world countries.
>>84715269Good genes = good karma. Bad genes = bad karma. Only people with good genes should continue the species.
>>84715578>Well you cant create something from nothingTherfore the abrahamic god doesn't exist. Easy enough
I think that's just you being depressed twin the rest of us are doing fire
>>84715854Therefore the big bang doesn't exist either, are you retarded nigga? You realize that a purely scientific explanation for the creation of the universe has to fall within the laws of science meanwhile if a creator is involved that creator is necessarily above the laws he creates
>>84715854This nigga believes the universe created itself
>>84715954>>84716091>brainwashed cultists are copingmany such cases. It will be a surprise to smoothbrains like you, but nobody claims to know how the universe was created. The big bang theory explains why the universe could have an accelerating expansion, not where everything came from. If you ask a scientist where everything came from they will tell you, that they don't know. Nobody does.You're typical retards fighting windmills.
>>84715880Majority of people will never be truly happy and be fulfilled.More and more people are outright miserable. If you are one of the few that reached true hapiness, good for you, but almost none will never do that. Tho I doubt that you did
>>84716091Interesting cope as I did no such thing.
>>84715954>if I ignore the rules, and the logic of my own statement my pet theory is fine while what I think my opponents theory is is notNot the flex you think it is. If you're still butthurt, just apply the special pleading you do for your god to 'the universe'
>>84715388Okay. Still, God didn't have to make such a retarded system and could have made everyone good and happy since he is all powerful, but he didn't.The fact that he made a world that even has the potential to be this awful while he didn't need to, means he isn't good and is a pretty massive piece of shit especially when he didn't even need to create anything
>>84715471God could have created a world where everyone is inherently good and happy, making free will redundant and unnecessary.
>>84714454>dont eat the apple>*eats the apple*>ok well clearly you cant follow my rules so you dont get to live in my house (paradise)>wait wtf, why arent we in paradise and why is lucifer guy messing with us>picrelYou can blame your ancestors for the world you inherited, you can thank jesus for opening the door for you to paradise again
>>84716303Why create the apple at all? So God didn't know eve would eat the apple when he created eve and/or the apple?
>>84716303>You can blame your ancestors for the world you inheritedWhy blame them when God's responsible?
>>84716399Anons are allergic to accountability.
>>84716493>Jesus comes back>takes all male virgins who follow him for not "defiling" themselves with women>not God's fault you're a pathetic virgin, broIncompetent Jewish Demiurge god that feeds on human suffering
>>84716493Especially narcissists, the Bible starts making a lot more sense of you consider god to be the narcissistic author's self insert. Moreso the old testament with the new testament being a pivot to love bombing
>>84716585What are those feminine hair care products on your table bro? Lmfao!!!! Vanity causes suffering
>>84716572Hmm perhaps, but Gnostics are the greatest narcissists of them all
>>84716694In for a penny, in for a pound. To an extent I respect it.
>>84716303 we live in a society where grown adults believe in stories like this. might as well worship the tooth fairy lol.
>>84716794Very unfortunate, least most have the excuse: 'can't fucking read'. Which is itself depressing also but it's an explanation
>>84716303>God creates apple>God knows humans are imperfect because he created them to be imperfect so he knows that Eve will eat the apple and all her descendants will suffer for her faggotry, even though they have nothing to do with itTruly a loving God.Also, what prevented God to just create us so we will follow his word and always be satisfied? He is all powerful, he could have, he just didn't because he is a fag that wants to feed his ego
>>84716493How the fuck am I accountable for Adam and Eve being retards? For this to actually make sense all of humanity would actually need to be given the chance whether or not to eat the apple, but it's clear that isn't the case. So, it's just nonsense hereditary guilt which isn't fair at all.
>>84716572>Get created against your will>God tells you to suck his balls and worship him or you will suffer forever after you dieThe sky nigger doesn't even give you the option to just not exist after you die. No, you fucking suffer all of eternity if you don't worship him. That's fucking bullshit. You don't want to give me heaven after I die if I don't suck your dick, fine. At least let me just die in peace and don't torture me for all eternity
>>84716944>don't torture me for all eternityDon't you see? By refusing to suck God's dick for eternity you've hurt his infinitely frail ego bad enough to be tortured for eternity. Makes perfect sense, I dunno why you're complaining /s
>>84716944>>84716984Inb4 christcucks post their 'you send yourself to hell' copes. Which is akin to saying 'no I didn't murder that guy, he just decided to stand in front of my gun when I fired it'
>>84716984You would think that a being that created everything and could easily destroy it all on a whim would be a little more secure. To deal with his insecurity, he should have just made a harem of Stacys to suck his cock, I would have done that. Is he retarded?
>>84717021You're the Stacy anon! That's the problem.According to the Bible you were made to slobber God's knob and nothing else matters. (Sry)
>>84716997>Noooo you don't get it sky kike sent his son, king of the kikes to die and to redeem us all and save us from a punishment for something we never even did!!! You DESERVE to suffer forever if you don't suck his cock out of gratitude!!!Fucking kek. Why are they like this?
>>84716984>tortureAll hell is, is a seperation from god. When you are cut off from the source of all that is good, you will suffer/die. All god is doing in this scenario is respecting your wishes to have nothing to do with him. You cant expect a parent you choose to ignore, disrespect and run away from to keep bending over backwards for your every whim
>>84717086>cut off from the source of all that is goodAnd evil.>You cant expect a parent you choose to ignore, disrespect and run away from to keep bending over backwards for your every whimYes I can, you've defined this parent as omni-benevolent. Or will you rescind that to solve the problem of evil?
>>84717086Why can't this seperation just be nonexistence instead of eternal torture? If that was the case, it would be kinda fair.
>>84717084Well when the brainwashing starts before you can even speak....
>>84717135True, ultimately people barely have control over what they will think and how they will act. It's majority just genetics, upbringing, enviroment and sheer luck. Free will barely exsists, if it goes at all.
>>84717158*does
>>84717132Because then not sucking God's cock forever wouldn't be a terrible fate to be avoided at all costs
>>84716918https://www.youtube.com/live/8_WUB3AioeU?si=U3V0Js66uvSeWE0M
>>84717132We do not know exactly what hell is, a lot of people's view on it today is pretty much a copy paste of church (only source of divine information should be praying and the bible, not what some grifter priest says) fearmongering and dante's inferno which is literally fan fiction.Jesus said it was an eternal fire, but he spoke a great amount of metaphors (look some up). So its really up for interpetation what hell is actually like, and whether or not a soul will suffer eternally. Best advice i can give is read the bible for yourself instead of listening to the great deceiver's lies. (Reading something for yourself and making your own opinion is better than what a bunch of retards say, shocker)Personally i think hell would be pretty much earth but without god's miracles, that or nonexistance. Eternal suffering is simply not god's character
>>84717308Ps: since hell is total seperation from god, your only master would be satan if it is indeed eternal. So obviously it would suck a lot. So dont follow him in this life
>>84717308Hell is separation from god
>>84717321And how do you know you're following God and not Satan? Since apparently God's cool with Satan pranking us, what if you're going to hell for being fooled and the rest of us are saved for being rational?
>>84717363You don't, man is susceptible to mistakes and is deeply flawed. I am a deeply flawed person (why tf do you think im on 4chan). That's why im telling you to read the bible for yourself and am asking you to have a relationship with god, it does not matter what you've done till now, or how many times you may stumble. Have faith in jesus' finished work and sacrifice on the cross, in his name you are forgiven. Just look at saul, he hunted many early followers of christ and after he repented he spread the good word all over the place like athens.Just get a bible and read, haters will say 'which version, they're all different' but those differences are basically 'he rode in on a donkey' to 'on the back of a donkey he entered jerusalem'. Should be plenty of places nearby you can pick up a free one.Just remember to listen to the lord, not to misguided man
>>84717444I've heard the Bible, I've also read ABOUT the Bible. That's why I dont believe it, that and Christian's proclivity to lie in service of their cult
>>84717444>Just remember to listen to the lord, not to misguided man.And you know you're listening to God, not Satan because.....?
>>84717490Because i take precautions like said praying, in the name of jesus christ ( evil spirits are afraid of his holy name). I put my faith in jesus because he will never lead me astray. >>84717482>christians who lieIf you were the great deceiver after jesus' sacrifice on the cross. Your go to strategy to lead as many astray is to make christians seem bad. Thats why you judge people by their fruit and run anything they try to teach you by god first through prayer and the bible, consider things first before accepting it.>heard the bible and read about itI would urge you to actually read it yourself. When you say 'heard' i assume audio book, but i dont think passively listening is quite the same as actively reading and thinking about what you read. You should do it very intentionally.Listen, im not gonna force you 2 to do anything. Im simply trying to spread the good word, and if you guys dont want anything to do with christ thats your right. Free will and all, just like the apple
>>84717751>Because i take precautions like said praying, in the name of jesus christ ( evil spirits are afraid of his holy name). I put my faith in jesus because he will never lead me astray. Sounds like something a great deceiver would tell you so you would think you were safe.
>>84717771Nice tripsIm still young, maybe i have been deceived. I cant guarantee ive never been. But im still young and know jesus christ is my lord and saviour. I have faith that he will set my path straight and will walk it with me. In the end satan is nothing compared to god, so why would i be afraid when god loves me so much he would send his only son to die on the cross for me
>>84717751>Thats why you judge people by their fruit and run anything they try to teach you by god first through prayer and the bible, consider things first before accepting it.You still haven't established how you know your communicating with God instead of Satan, or loki, or Thor for that matter. Also that's my point, if God were good and Christians prayed/followed God they'd be good. Since they arent one of those premises is wrong >heard the bible and read about itI would urge you to actually read it yourself. When you say 'heard' i assume audio book, but i dont think passively listening is quite the same as actively reading and thinking about what you read. You should do it very intentionally.I meant read and did so intentionally, there's a reason the average atheist knows the bible better than the average christcuck.>Listen, im not gonna force you 2 to do anythingOh but you wish you could ;)
>>84717813Unless your lord and savior is satan setting your path straight to hell ;)
