I genuinely wish men and women could get along better and take care of each other with love and reciprocity, yet, it seems nature has made that impossibleApparently our biological programming drives us to exploit and judge each other, based on the superficial, and that leaves me in pain. I don't want to be used and discarded as a tool would when it's no longer usefulBeing content alone seems to be the only 'good' choice here
>Being content alone seems to be the only 'good' choice hereIt really is, and as a bonus while you are at it, and genuinely satisfied with your life you may even meet genuine love.
>>84725490it objectively is, and its been self evident throughout a very long period of history how true that is. the issue is being able to reconcile that with your physicality. not just your dick, but your instincts and natural desires as well.>>84725515>you may even meet genuine lovebest way to ruin your peace, there is no such thing as genuine love as a romantic concept, anon. full stop.
>>84725540>the issue is being able to reconcile that with your physicality. not just your dick, but your instincts and natural desires as well.I've been thinking about this, and I haven't come up with a solution yetSatisfying your natural desires seems to leave you very open to exploitation and suffering
>>84725565i feel pretty split about this my self. i wonder if its something i need to get out of my system, or if i will naturally stop caring the longer i am deprived of it. for clarity i'm 24 and KHHV, have had quite a few opportunities to change that but i am a hardcore mentalcel. does it make more sense to try to experience those urges despite the issues it would likely bring me, in an attempt to solve for the desires and "what if" scenarios i inevitably still conjure. or, will that just further trap me within the cycle of trying to complete myself with another incomplete individual like everyone else tries and fails to do.
>>84725490>our biological programming drives us to exploit and judge each otherIf only people figured this out earlier and put some rules in place
>>84725607>put some rules in placeThere are rules in place, it's just that they benefit women to the detriment of men. I truly wish we had equal rights and duties under the law, and socially, as well
>>84725490I'm not really an antinatalist but I don't respect a lot of pronatalist rhetoric and your post reminds me why.Life is about race, gender, class, and health and playing those cards you're dealt. Life has it's moments but the human condition is mostly miserable and there is a lot of chaos involved. This is God's personal infinite Jerry Springer/ Truman Show never ending marathon where he watches the suffering of everything that lives and breathes.I would respect pronatalists more if they just said "Yes, my offspring would suffer but I want a legacy." DNA replication simply makes the harm-able and then it harms it.
>>84725490i think once we get realistic enough AI companions plus VR that might be possible, since it will mean that men and women won't try to be romantic with each other.The main thing seems to be that our ooga booga biology makes us act out our biology on people. But if we act out our ooga boogaism on robowaifus and robohusbandos, then men and women can be real friends and not pursue 3dpd romance.
>>84725623>pronatalistsI find them extremely cringe, not in that they enjoy having children, but in them trying to claim moral superiority and superiority of purpose over others. No, you're just bringing an innocent soul into the meat grinder and believing yourself virtuous over it
>>84725623I'm also not a complete anti-natalist but I am sympathetic towards the idea.>Yes, my offspring would suffer but I want a legacy.desu that attitude pisses me off on a primal level. But also logically speaking, who is to say that the offspring will not just choose not to reproduce or just won't be unable to?
>>84725632>i think once we get realistic enough AI companions plus VR that might be possible, since it will mean that men and women won't try to be romantic with each other.this is precisely the kind of stuff Uncle Ted warned us about. May the Eternal Luddite inherit the Earth.
>>84725490men and women will never get along, we both have disgusting biology that makes us behave awful.
>>84725490Yeah I agree. Too many gender wars. A 23 year old made a discord hate chat about me just because I wanted to date him and flirted with him often. This was last year and he successfully made me lose friends. He claims he was raped by a woman when he was younger and I think that's why he claimed the victim so hard even though he was a grown ass man with a job. He thinks being flirted with online by a woman he hates is the same as being raped.Tldr - faced a personal gender war many times, men do hate women
>>84725694>He thinks being flirted with online by a woman he hates is the same as being raped.this happens all the time in reverse and no one bats an eye
If all women weren't a hivemind that wanted the same top 10% of men, there would be no issues.
>>84725490I like moids and am exceptionally nice to them (well I don't really speak unless spoken to, so if they talk to me). But only irl.
>>84725694I think the gender war bs is retarded afWe could all be playing vidya and enjoying life but instead we are arguing over some kindergarden-tier idiocyA lot of it can be blamed on the feminists and them trying to ruin escapismBut then the male response is trying to bring back some "tradcon" crap, which of course will drive women to be more feminist.imo tradcuck men are by far the biggest and most harmful retards when it comes to relationships because all they would achieve is making women even more resentful by taking their rights away, and they would also make men into cannon fodder for billionaires
>>84725620Yeah it's like the old rules were fine and forced like 99% of people of both genders to be responsible toward each other
>>84725637>superiority of purpose over others.It's so circular I never got the point of it You're bringing someone to life for a purpose then that person's purpose is to bring another person who'll bring purpose. It's like none of them have a real purpose and just push it into the next generation. it's like a "purpose" that is never truly met
>>84725771It's the normie way. They don't question these things, and most don't even prepare their children to face the world as it is
>>84725490It is simple women date for only three things: money, looks and status.Men simply responded by only pump and dumping and dating for looks + youth. Women started it they can enjoy being old and all alone. t. 29 khhv who will only date women under 25.
>>84725834>It is simple women date for only three things: money, looks and status.Sadly, I think it's true. I've felt love but it's always been temporary, performance based and subject to change based on feels and comparisons to other people. One bad day when she's on the gram and sees something that makes her thing she can do better, and it's over
