It's insane the amount of people who believe in "just let people do whatever they want". Baby logic, even the most fundamentalist religious people who believe the world is only seven thousand years old are unironically less dumb than that
>>84732673I do whatever I want, and thankfully it's worked out pretty well for me. Self-control isn't self-denial. You can get anything that you want if you wait for it to come by.
>>84732747>anecdotes Oh my gotto bro. Did you know that most robbers get away scot free? Hell, even most rapists aren't convicted Just because you get away with something that doesn't mean it's good
>>84732802Are you saying that my conduct in particular should be restricted because of the existence of robbers and rapists, even though I am not a robber or rapist? You're the sort of person who loves surveillance cameras up your ass everywhere. You have no balls.As for money or love, it's like I said. It's not wrong to want them, and you'll get them if you wait.
I mean it's true to an extent, if this is a huge drive of yours though OP I suggest you get into politics. Most people don't have this innate need to corral other people into their desired behaviours.
>>84732673people are already doing exactly what they want at every minute of their entire lives. if a slave follows the slavemaster's orders, it is because the slave wants to do it. if it truly wasn't in the slave's will, they would rather die. knowing that death is meaningless due to the perpetual re-emergence of consciousness, death is preferable to being a slave to a despot's will. but then again, we are all slaves to the detestable thread of fate called happenstance, of which death won't allow us to escape from it. there isn't even a way to true death like nirvana. truly, we are all doomed.
>>84732895I guess but then that just seems very reductive, like saying "you either do something or you dont" like yeah that could be true but there's more to it than just that
>>84732921yet you fail to mention what the "more to it" there is than just that. free will is a lie, but because the illusion of it is truly experienced does not make it true. that's like a schizophrenic arguing that their hallucinations are real because they're really seeing them. we are all flesh robots bound in the fabric of pain that this rotten universe has unawaredly selected for. death from life is impossible, but death in life is the only plausibility. die the mortal self, that which never ought to be; make way to the immortal self, that which always only ever ought to be. unfortunately though, the latter part is impossible. you can only hollow yourself out with a spoon, hopefully you'll remove your means of self-awareness and the torture therein, at least for one lifetime.
>>84732949Well yeah, are you of the opinion that things either are or aren't and that's all we need to discuss?
>>84732949Like listen to yourself you are pretending to be above it all but you're morally loading so many terms lmao.
>>84732673What are your beliefs?
>>84733099i'm of the opinion that we are all doomed. when it comes to truth-seeking, overwhelming despair is the only experience to be had when encountering the ultimate truth of existence. we act or we don't; being aware of our utter helplessness is the source of a suffering that is too heavy and plenty to bear. we should be discussing how forsaken we are, how much there's nothing we can do, until we all devolve into madness out of sheer spite against this abominable existence. only when we return to an animal-like state can the burden of existence be intolerable enough. but we already are animals: to know despair is to know the divinity implied in embodying one's beastly nature.>>84733107i am not above anything, no one is, no one can be. rather, i am below, or at least i fail to try to be. i'm just a gross piece of shit thing that's screaming due to being actively tortured, don't mind me
>>84733151Sounds lame, you've made your choice
