are there any biofem lurkers/posters still around? if so, hello, it's been a while. >go study>start a friendship with one of the guys because we seem likeminded>we are friends for months>suddenly start getting closer >he invites me out to watch a play and buys the tickets for us, which were separate from a few colleagues that went too>we talk until midnight and he says some very... interesting things>he stares at me for long periods of time, leaning closer to get a better look and all >which was told to me by a friend who at this point along with two or three other people are convinced he's into me>well, i wasn't really looking for this but... >one day all of a sudden he tells me he's going on a date with a girl he'd been talking with for a while and asks what flowers he should buy >ouch >well, it's not the first time i assume someone is into me when they aren't i'm hurt for a while but accept the rejection >give him advice >one day we touch on a similar topic >i chuckle telling him i was into him for a while because i thought he was into me >he "scolds" me saying that if he was in that situation he wouldn't give advice, just ignore it or say something mean >he also says he indeed wasn't flirting nor did he realise i was trying to flirt >haha funny wow im so glad he's like the last guy too and we can just shrug this off and move on without any petty drama since it was a misunderstanding on both ends >A WHOLE MONTH LATER>find out through another friend he has been telling a girl he wanted to bang that i act too much like a girlfriend in a way that sounded pitiful of me. that he was uncomfortable because i led him to separate seats that time we went out and implying i was currently obsessed. why are men especially the non autistic ones like this? i seriously considered him a close friend and confidant, only to find out he's been badmouthing me and making me sound like an idiot. it makes me want revenge but i know i wouldn't pull it off.
>>84742487I'm not a woman, but I am far removed from the normalfag mind from years of self-imposed isolation.I came here just to say that I did find your story interesting, and that I also struggle to understand why normal men act the way they do.I'm going to hide this thread now, goodbye.
>>84742487You ignored his advances so of course he moved on to thinner, more sensible pastures. You stupid cow.
>>84742487Stop trying to be friends with men. There is no other answer other than this. Once again, stop trying to be friends with men. If you are interested, be interested. If you aren't, don't bother. Normal men that are getting pussy easily in the current age are all shit lords.
>friends with menNo I do not do this because I'm not an idiot >telling him you tell him you were into him after he already was pursuing that other girl in a backhanded way "chuckling"What did you hope to get out of that? To guilt him for not making a move? Protip pretty girls don't make self deprecating jokes about being an option. Also why the hell keep being friends after him "scolding" you wtf I know this is /r9k/ but I'm literally an autistic neet and have more self respect
>>84742487Probably because you're indeed, a lonely socially inept loser who clung onto someone out of desperation and didn't see how uncomfortable that made him.Wouldn't surprise me if he actually not-so-subtly tried to steer you away but you didn't get it.If this shit keeps happening to you then check your shoes.
>>84742487You stonewalled him so now he's gossiping about you like a passive aggressive bitch Dodged a bullet
Chad dumped you without even pumping? That's a sad story, femanon
>>84742539>Stop trying to be friends with men*straight men
>>84742607What fucking use is a faggot to a woman? Give me one benefit that isn't just for the faggot
>>84742607Can't tell you how many times a girl has told me about a guy pretending to be gay to get close to them. I guess feel free to expose yourself to that.
>>84742487that dude is a weird fickle picky bitchbut I can't sympathize cause you chased Chad
>>84742510it's ok to reply and see my thread even if you're not a woman loli don't understand it. must we all be cynical liars? being honest/who i am only ever leads to me being ridiculed or treated this way, but i get a terribly guilty conscience otherwise>>84742528>You ignored his advancesi tried to invite him to go out with me the same week he had that date unknowingly, asking if he was doing anything that weekend and making it clear i wanted to go on a date. he said he didn't know yet what he was going to do. ah, also, date girl is also not the same as the girl he badmouthed me to. i'm assuming he's just a player who got pissed i'm too prude. don't understand why he has to drag my fucking name over a month later as if i'm still obsessed to her and who else, considering he's fairly popular i'm assuming a bunch of people got the distorted version and it makes me want to die.>>84742539>Stop trying to be friends with men>If you are interested, be interested. If you aren't, don't botheri agree with the sentiment but it's too shallow. i'd hope for my future boyfriend, husband, whatever to be above all else a friend. >>84742560wasn't supposed to come off backhanded. by that point i had moved on already, so it just sounded like a funny story to tell retroactively to a friend. "scolding" was also in quotes because it came off more like friendly nagging. yes i should've had more self respect and that's what pisses me off the most, because i am SO picky with who i consider friends. >>84742590what is stonewalling yes definitely dodged a fate much worse. just pissed off at being treated like shit.
He did like you but since you didn't show in a normie way you liked him back until he found someone else, now he's trashing you to everyone. Never be close friends with a man you don't intend to date. Find autist/outcast women to befriend
>>84742654>i agree with the sentiment but it's too shallow. i'd hope for my future boyfriend, husband, whatever to be above all else a friend. That is a very nice thought, but you're not going to meet him in person. Any man who'd ever make any moves on you in our current society isn't going to be that type, sorry to say. They probably wouldn't even feel comfortable talking to you first.
>>84742654It was backhanded though, you only said that because he was pursuing another woman and it made you jealous that he wasn't a possibility anymore. You weren't even considering him like that until people started memeing it. It's an ego thing, I had to learn this myself because I have a lot of pride and see things in black and white a lot, sometimes it's more about how it goes down with a guy than the guy himself. You clearly don't actually want him you just wanted him to want you.>funny story (...) scolding was in quotes (...) friendly naggingStill him displaying power over you and it was still a sensitive topic even playing cool girl that's why you chuckled to diffuse tension>so picky Not to me you keep people around that try to talk down to you and disrespect you seems like you'd be friends with a wooden indian
>>84742565>Probably because you're indeed, a lonely socially inept loser who clung onto someone out of desperation and didn't see how uncomfortable that made him.it's such a torture isn't it? every conversation i have i'm constantly so worried that i'll make someone uncomfortable and yet it happens regardless. >Wouldn't surprise me if he actually not-so-subtly tried to steer you away but you didn't get itme neither, i'm just surprised the usual signs weren't there. he responded to my messages, frequently so, even though i'm very chatty and would easily spam multiple messages at once. yet in his responses he was always very hot and cold. charming and caring one minute and the literal other sarcastic and dry. i opened up once and said i was afraid of making him feel uncomfortable by always talking so much and initiating 99% of the conversations, and he simply told me if he was he'd just ignore them and not answer. >If this shit keeps happening to you then check your shoes.it's the second time, but the situations turned out completely different. happened a year ago. directly asked him out and was rejected, was sad for a while but quickly grew back respect once he didn't make a big deal out of it, which is always my biggest fear once this kind of situation arises in a friendship. >>84742661>now he's trashing you to everyonei don't get what makes someone act this way. well, insecurity, yes, but to be this pissed off i didn't show back interest in a very specific way? really, couldn't even admit that once i finally admit i thought he was into me? >Find autist/outcast women to befriendi didn't mean to make myself sound friendless lol. yes that's most of my circle. >>84742683>Any man who'd ever make any moves on you in our current society isn't going to be that type, sorry to say. They probably wouldn't even feel comfortable talking to you first.i wouldn't mind making the first move. but yeah, slowly losing hope of meeting anyone irl
>>84742830Welcome to the manosphere, bitch.
autistic biofems are adorable. I wish I can find one to make mine
>>84742830>I don't get what makes someone act this way. well, insecurity, yes, but to be this pissed off i didn't show back interest in a very specific way?Men REALLY can't handle rejection, especially from a woman they percieve as less than (which is autistic/handicapped women) so it messes with their ego even more so they want to hurt you to make up for it. It's happened to me a few times too
>>84742858Yeah and women on the other hand are super good at dealing with rejection. That's why they always immediately burst into tears and start screaming their favorite emasculating slurs when they don't get their way.
>>84742707>you only said that because he was pursuing another woman and it made you jealous that he wasn't a possibility anymorei told him that after he'd already been on the date. it was a whole while later, i only told him that after i had moved on, that's why i felt comfortable saying it as a funny story. you know, first something is hurtful or humiliating and you vent. but eventually you grow out of it and it becomes a funny or interesting story. >You clearly don't actually want him you just wanted him to want you.guys is it weird to be charmed by someone once they seem to demonstrate interest in you? >>84742858seriously it makes no sense. how can one reject someone while consciously doing the exact opposite? are normies part of a secret society that have the handbook of how 2 society?
>>84742891>seriously it makes no sense. how can one reject someone while consciously doing the exact opposite? are normies part of a secret society that have the handbook of how 2 society?I really don't get it. I think on some level, it's about putting you in your place since they went out of their way to engage with you in the first place. It's like they want a loyal pet but get mad when you don't oblige the way they want to, unspoken of course because they're normies and you have to just innately know what they want.
>>84742487This in specific doesn't seem to have to do with non autists or autism. that kind of misunderstanding isn't uncommon even people without autism get confused by the intent of someone getting close, three people thought he was into you which is enough of an indication that it was convincingMaybe he just didn't make up his mind or knew and led you on>if he was in that situation he wouldn't give advice, just ignore it or say something mean he sounds like he was testing you and got mad it didn't work out >>84742654>he said he didn't know yet what he was going to doyep, I guess he was>>84742707>You clearly don't actually want him you just wanted him to want you.Nonsensical nonsense. Wanting someone to like you and engaging them in way you'd hope it'd turn into something more is "liking" them
>>84742858>people REALLY can't handle rejection, especially from a person they percieve as less than (which is autistic/handicapped/ugly people) so it messes with their ego even more so they want to hurt you to make up for it. It's happened to me a few times tooftfy>>84742891>are normies part of a secret society that have the handbook of how 2 society?It might as well be the case. You have two options.>ran through chad who wants to settle with an ND who is fun to be around, puts out regularly and appreciates his company. may be abusechad pretending.>autist or otherwise mentally ill man who may or may not be a virgin, and who may or may not actually be abusechad-lite preying on youthe choice is yours, foid-kun.
>>84742997>Nonsensical nonsense. Wanting someone to like you and engaging them in way you'd hope it'd turn into something more is "liking" themNot even being mean but you clearly don't have much experience. I have been in that position myself.
>>84742980>unspoken of course because they're normies and you have to just innately know what they want.YES! that's what bothers me the absolute most. it's like this time i wanted to help with something and kept telling this supervisor this, that i could and wanted to help only to get frustrated i was being ignored, before an autistic friend told me you have to DO the thing without asking. kept asking myself WHY am i supposed to just directly put people on the spot when that just feels so rude.>he sounds like he was testing you and got mad it didn't work outah, sounds like it. i'm already not a big fan of any of these games of interest, but you'd assume someone wouldn't rage quit on the first failed strategy. skill issue i proclaim. >>84743000if those are my only two options i'd rather go full spinster
>>84743129>if those are my only two options i'd rather go full spinsterwell, you see why so many men are choosing to not have sex at all then. our options are about the same, just in the other direction. replace abusechad with BPDemon. and the former option isn't even widely available to men.
>>84743129Even if you outright ask them, they still won't be honest with you. It's impossible
>>84743151>formerYou mean latter
>>84742487Insane and disgusting projection most likely you're just salty he didn't date you and that's it. Funny because you were complaining not that long ago about how subhuman autistic men are and how you would never date them but I guess you can't hit it off with normalfag men either l mean makes sense since every part of your essence is dripping with contempt and perceived persecution.
>>84742487Power plays, men are shit and still think that kind of thing has any sort of value of interest, the idea that you're being desired/chased/etc by people you don't care aboutIt's quite immature if you think about it.
>>84743208you're not getting stacey willing to settle down though, 9 times out of 10 she settles with chad. average guy is getting a ran through 5 if he is lucky.
>>84743246why are you even considering stacy at all though?
>>84743151>well, you see why so many men are choosing to not have sex at all theni think there's never been a worse time to date, ever. they've managed to get us into this whole gender war of modern culture when it's utterly pointless. everyone's fucked because, when you think about it, we are practically forced to use dating apps by these tech giants with little competition who can just willingly make a terrible experience to psychologically torment you into giving them money. there's nowhere else to go meet new people in real life anymore and the internet has rewarded whatever causes rage so much a bunch of men AND women are just full on assholes. then one side naturally feeds the other by confirming their mindset. fucking tired. wish something positive would happen for the world already. bleak times. >>84743227>Funny because you were complaining not that long ago about how subhuman autistic men are and how you would never date them but I guess you can't hit it off with normalfag men either l mean makes sense since every part of your essence is dripping with contempt and perceived persecutionthis place is crazier than twitter sometimes >>84743244>It's quite immature if you think about it.mm. dodged it for sure. well, i've already cut off all contact, can't even look at him in the eye in person, just acting as if he's invisible. he has not tried interacting with me at all, which makes me quite happy since i don't actually have to feel petty for ignoring anything.
>>84742487hello noona, its been a while, have you though about living in a place without autistic 3rd world normoids
>>84743279because its the equivalent to telling them about 300 bodies chad settling down with an aspie girl. which happens pretty often desu. >>84743296>i think there's never been a worse time to datewe know too much about the other gender and how different we really are. men keep getting shown data for how women act despite how they talk, and it does not appeal to the male fantasy of romance. women are more free to choose in the west than they ever have been, and they get ruined in turn due to the top 1% of men being so awash with sexual attention. you mean nothing to them. but they don't mind pretending like you do for a lay.sexual liberation was genuinely the worst thing to happen to society and it only gets worse from here.
>>84743369>300 bodies chad settling down with an aspie girl. which happens pretty often desu.I don't think it happens often, I think they try but it doesn't work out for obvious reasons. Also, a lot of those types of men lie to be able to get autist girls who don't know they're prey to that type of guy. I think for the most part though, betabux at least have an idea of their stacy's past and what the arrangement will be.
>>84743383>I think they try but it doesn't work out for obvious reasons.maybe this is true, but most relationships don't work out in general.>Also, a lot of those types of men lie to be able to get autist girls who don't know they're prey to that type of guydefinitely true.>I think for the most part though, betabux at least have an idea of their stacy's past and what the arrangement will be.unfortunately, but neither party is really pleased with it. resentment builds and you have a new single mom or a lonely dad and a mommy and stepdaddy 10 years after marriage. though the marriage rate itself is in a free fall anyway, people just aren't bothering anymore.
>>84743296Yeah that's good, he can no longer throw you under the bus as someone obsessed or whatever.Maybe fix the part where you think people is into you just because they stare too much, I don't know what man doesn't do that.
>>84743410I think people are most happy and balanced in a relationship with their looksmatch.
>>84743431>I think people are most happy and balanced in a relationship with their looksmatch.>menhypothetically yes, but at this point most men are so alienated that i'm not sure if thats the case.>womenyou are dreaming, for the vast majority of women this isn't true. they typically want to date far up and above, or far down and below. one for the natural female drive to reproduce with someone worthy, and two for the societal conditioned insecurity that plagues minds.
>>84743359>3rd worldsigh, my relationship to this country is complicated. the men here are honestly far from my biggest issue with this place. there are so many when it comes to safety, lifestyle, money, the job market...and yet i also just can't see myself leaving everything and everyone i love behind. but god i'd love to work overseas.... not even for the money, just because i miss not having to use the english language as much. >>84743369>sexual liberation was genuinely the worst thing to happen to society and it only gets worse from here.i really don't think it's the cause for the current state of things nor the avoidance issues of modern age. >>84743414>because they stare too muchperhaps i worded it badly lol i meant once in a specific class he stared at me for an unusually long time while i was not paying attention. my friend and i obviously assumed it was some sort of admiration on his end. i'm worried about this pot eventually boiling, i don't know how long i can keep this strategy up.
>>84743296>this place is crazier than twitter sometimesEverything I posted is hard cold truth though, you're vain and hypersensitive to the social mistakes of others while simultaneously being autistic and probably making those same mistakes on the fly. This is why I despise autistic women somehow extremely clumsy socially yet extremely unforgiving, what is there to like about you seriously do some introspection all I see is a woman who can't take the slightest drama or even implied hint of criticism whilst being extraordinary sensitive to those of others, you would probably be the type of girl to complain about some guy you thought as platonic coming out as wanting to fuck you or something and be appalled by that it's just insufferable to look at, I don't know why every autistic woman talks like a Karen as if they aren't hopelessly inept and have any authority to speak on matters social whatsoever.
>>84743527>i really don't think it's the cause for the current state of things nor the avoidance issues of modern age.then you are delusional, there is genuinely no other explanation. social media has only served to accelerate and exaggerate the issue, but that is the fault.
>>84743129>before an autistic friend told me you have to DO the thing without asking. kept asking myself WHY am i supposed to just directly put people on the spotYou are actually also putting them on the spot by asking instead of just helping. By asking you're putting the burden of deciding whether you exert yourself over them and giving them the decision>would you like to exploit my time and efforts? the choice is yoursNormal people actually aren't that much better at this, they aren't sensitive enough when it's someone else's turn to be in need of help and bluntly ask There's an issue with not knowing how much the person asking wants to help, sometimes people ask not because they themselves want to do the thing but because the other person needs it, by doing it without asking you're demonstrating you really want to help/do the thingThink of someone walking up to you to tell you that you dropped your keys, points far back towards them then asks if you want him to pick it up, that's a weird spot to be put in. you want "him" to pick it up? why didn't he do so on the way?removing the possibility of inaction is what makes people think you care or want to help, in itself it can feel inauthentic or doubtful to ask
>>84743562>then you are delusionaland i think you're being too extremist or thinking in too small a scale. you are just mentioning many sides of the same coin instead of considering how other aspects of society influence and are influenced by these issues. >>84743582>would you like to exploit my time and efforts? the choice is yoursmmmm i see>There's an issue with not knowing how much the person asking wants to help, sometimes people ask not because they themselves want to do the thing but because the other person needs it, by doing it without asking you're demonstrating you really want to help/do the thingyes, i'm glad to have learnt that lesson, late as i did. usually when it comes to friends i have no issue with this, but when it's people i do not know im frankly a bit terrified of doing this to, because with normies it always feels like you're taking a gamble with a chance of it exploding in your face.
>>84743527>just because i miss not having to use the english language as muchare you no longer in br?
>>84742487Yeah I can see why that might be the case. Women can treat each other horribly even when everyone is neurotypical. So yeah, your life will probably suck forever because people will mistreat you for the way you were born
>>84743527ya didnt u travel to a bunch of cool places how did u afford that, man i wanna live in an eastern megacity
>>84743704sorry i just wrote that entirely wrong. i miss having to use english and wish i could do it more frequently. you can see it's definitely gathering a little dust lol>>84743706oh well, what is life if not suffering and sacrifice. there's still good people and moments of course, they just feel so sparse. i look at the good side of things as best as i can but with this looming crisis over the world you can't just delude yourself into pretending all is well and good
>>84743761>oh well, what is life if not suffering and sacrifice. there's still good people and moments of course, they just feel so sparse.>i look at the good side of things as best as i can but with this looming crisis over the world you can't just delude yourself into pretending all is well and goodWhat looming crisis could you possibly be talking about
>>84742487Not even sure what the heck is happening in your story but did you like him or not? I get conflicting ideas from the fact you had "well, I really wasnt looking for this" and then get hurt by the rejectionIf I do understand the situation a bit, maybe he felt rejected and this type of behavior is common enough. You feel embarrassed and so react with hostility, guys who reject women will get a scorched earth reaction sometimes as well especially if her ego is through the moon with insulting your masculinity, insulting your gf as ugly and/or seeding rumors and lies of abuse to your friends and mutual acquaintances
>>84743754dad likes to travel on vacation. >>84743818>but did you like him or not? I get conflicting ideas from the fact you had "well, I really wasnt looking for this" and then get hurt by the rejectionmm, sorry for my confusing writing. originally, as in, once i started approaching him for a friendship, no. but once it was supposed he was demonstrating interest in me, it wasn't necessarily an unpleasant surprise. i thought about it... and well he was good looking, funny, and like someone who i'd be willing to get to know. well, definitely got to know him, just wasn't the personality i expected.
>>84743923>well, definitely got to know him, just wasn't the personality i expected.That what? He isn't completely perfect and you mald over literal nothingburgers? Seriously autistic women are fucking insufferable kill yourself
>>84743923In a prior post you said you only asked him on a date after "a whole while". How long ago might that have been? Had he tried to ask you on a date prior to that (tho you may not have realized due to autism)? His reaction certainly sounds extreme and the cause of it may have been a feeling of being yanked around from uninterested to interested responses from you but only AFTER he found a new gfIm a bit autistic myself as well (tho only my mother and sister are actually formally diagnosed) and so I try to be very explicit about my intentions at the moment and try not to leave people in the dark for any period of time. I've been told I play around a few times before because I was wishy-washy about making a choice
>>84742487It is so hard to be an "autistic female" when you can still win by just existing. womp womp nigga
>>84742487autistic men and autistic women belong together this is the way of the world
>>84743296>fucking tired. wish something positive would happen for the world already. bleak times.Yeah it's the end of the world indeed capitalism sucks what's newStill doesn't change the fact that you're being dishonest about your own feelings. He is completely right and you just can't handle gossip because you're probably hypersensitive to criticism which is understandable but you should at least be more forgiving of others, this is the problem with autistic women and why they're so insufferable and the ones that aren't all seem to poon out for some reason kek
>>84744345>autistic men and autistic women belong together this is the way of the worldAnon, I just really don't know how to tell you this. Maybe it's better I don't.
>>84742487>>well, it's not the first time i assume someone is into me when they aren't i'm hurt for a while but accept the rejectionI stoped talking to an anon from here because he kept talking about his work crush when I had a crush on him. It was so sad to me. And I totally thought he was flirting with me >why are men especially the non autistic ones like this?Because they have no empathy for autistic people
Hey! Long time no see. The mistake you made is assuming you can be friends with guys. It always leads to shit like this.
>>84744793>Because they have no empathy for autistic peopleTrue how dare he talk about this discomfort or his feelings something that makes this foid uncomfortable to a completely unrelated and neutral friend he should only ever say nice things about her and never complain about all of her passive aggressive BSWhen you filter this story down to a socially inept and vain becky who has ego damage from the fact that some guy just wanted to be friends with her and wasn't attracted to her and now she's going scorched earth because she's too infantile to handle it everythinf clicks in.
>>84744818Leads to shit like what? Foids blowing up a relationship because they can't handle the hurt to their ego that not every guy they like is attracted to them?
>>84744853Oh I was talking about in general, I didn't read the thread lol. But still, going behind someones back and talking about them is pussy shit.
>>84744897Yeah how dare he have friends and talk about his experiences and feelings in a way that would potentially make a hypersensitive person uncomfortable if they were in the room with themAnd OP is absolutely obsessed, I have been rejected/friednzoned by women endlessly because I'm a guy and after a month I would be over it by now but this bitch has been seething all along and looking for any possible excuse to terminate the relationship to salvage her damaged ego. Boo fucking hoo cunt, he took you to plays and theatres but you don't give a shit about any of that because I bet you never gave a shit about him in the first place.
