>>84779411
No, there's always going to be at least one man that would fuck them even if they were a distended, bloated pile of meat. If there's a vagina, there's a man with no standards somewhere

>>84779411
women who no man wants to fuck do not exist but women who practically no man wants to marry do

>>84779411
Femcels have usually been hurt by a few guys, been treated poorly for being ugly by their peers (usually middle school and high school social rejection, which is super common for many people), have some sort of mental health issue/autism/trauma, and have fallen into misandrists circles.
They're similar to incels, but the angle they're coming from is relationships in general, not mainly about sex.
Most women can get laid, but ugly ones often can ONLY get laid and used, not wifed up. Women generally don't care as much about sex, they want to he loved.

>>84779411
I have an irrational fear of people, so I can't have sex. does that make me a femcel?

>>84779430
Exhibit A on femcels not existing

>>84779460
no idiot that's like gigachad saying he has AIDS and doesn't want to cum in a virgin therefore he's an incel

>>84779460
I think femcels can have an irrational fear of people, but that isn't the core of what makes them a femcel. It is more-so the self-labeling and misandry that makes them a femcel.
A fear of people is usually brought on by trauma. It is not impossible to learn not to be, just takes a lot of work.

>>84779411
Yes. Because I am ugly, I get treated worse than a literal rapist murderer. People will assume the worst, outright lie and blame me for things I didn't do, and instead of just being honest like "you're too ugly and I don't want to be with you" they create some insane scenario where they can justify in their minds I'm the bad guy. Also there's been several threads made about me to try to expose me even on here, but luckily I haven't shared much about myself for that to happen. You people are cruel and it's blackpilling that looks really are everything. Meanwhile, you have e-girls that are actually evil and harmful that still have countless orbiters and male suitors because they're pretty.

>>84779513
What the fuck are you talking Nona. This reads as schizo

>>84779538
Nona's post reads the same as most incels' here. I don't think it seems schizo, just a different angle.

>>84779513
>there's been several threads made about me to try to expose me even on here
Literally 0 threads?

>>84779556
The being ugly and negative reactions I understand but threads trying to expose her?? What

>>84779450
>they want to be loved
by chad, of course. """"femcel"""" is a standards issue, not an access issue. always will be, and never was respectively. there is no argument against this.

>>84779594
Fair enough. I could see it happening, though. It's not impossible. Just depends on what she's referring to.

>>84779411
I genuinely don't think I can date a man and not be angry every time it speaks or I'm reminded it exists
I must be the incelest of them all

>>84779605
Not even by chad, just by a decently well-adjusted man who wants to love her.
There's plenty of women who date average or below average looking men.
Incel theory is wrong about this sort of thing.

>>84779636
It'll be a cold day in hell if they ever not want just Chad

>>84779594
>>84779580
Why does that make me schizo or is unbelievable? Obviously I'm not going to go into more detail because I don't want to attract more negative attention, but people have made threads here about me. If a guy's upset and mad that the girl he talked to on Discord is ugly, why would it be outside the realm of possibility he tries to make a thread or posts about it?

>>84779657
Also, bullying exists. Robots do it too

>>84779655
People have standards and that's okay. Men will put their dick in anything, yeah, but, once again, sex is not what it is about for women. It's about relationships and women just want to be loved and respected and valued, versus getting laid. This is very difficult for ugly women.

It must be a cold day in hell, then, because it's the truth. Echo chambers have been pushing that narrative forever. It's just dead wrong.

>>84779657
I saw this thread myself, and I'm sorry that happened to you. People can be cruel and the men here need to realize it isn't just women or normies - it is everyone.

>>84779636
>There's plenty of women who date average or below average looking men.
chad doesn't mean just being physically attractive, women aren't attracted to sub8s physically. chad just meaning being 8/10+ physically is an outdated view.
>>84779679
>It must be a cold day in hell, then, because it's the truth.
its not, women want attention not love. women are not capable of love in the same way men are. this is freely observable.

They comment as if they've known thousands of women in their lives. Personally, I don't see myself that way; I'm not trying to act like I'm "not like other girls." I'm a girl who spends all her time locked inside her house. I don't have friends, and I think about suicide every time something goes wrong for me. But I don't hate men, I don't despise them, and I don't feel the need to blame them for my lack of socialization.

>>84779471
most retarded comparison award

>>84779694
>women aren't attracted to sub8s physically
This isn't true at all. Plenty of women date men who are less attractive than them. Where are you getting this information? High school experiences, social media, and dating apps?

>women are not capable of love in the same way men are
How do you know this? What's the source? One argument, straight off the top of my head, is that men are more likely to leave a very sick woman than vice versa. This is another echo chamber talking point with zero respect to reality.

>>84779715
because you are choosing to do all of this, if you weren't willingly secluding yourself and living in suicidal delusion, your life would go well for you. that is not the case for us, that is why we hate you.

>>84779679
I appreciate you trying to reach a middle ground but lets be honest. The other women in this thread want one thing and thats something none of us could possibly get. They dont feel any positive emotions towards nor are they capable cause thats just how they are. They claim to be just like other anons but in reality they live much better lives than we could ever hope for.

>>84779411
Perhaps you'd know that if ventured out of your cave

>>84779729
>other women in this thread want one thing and thats something none of us could possibly get
What is that exactly?

>but in reality l, they live much better lives than we could ever hope for
How do you know this is true?

Not trying to be a dick, just trying to get to the core of your argument.

>>84779691
Thank you, especially for believing me. Being an ugly woman is not for the faint of heart. The good thing is, it's proven to cut life expectancy so at least I won't have to suffer as long as the average person provided I don't blow my brains out first

>>84779657
Don't do that. Why are you letting someone from Discord who doesn't even know you live rent free in your head? Who actually gives a fuck what any bitter chud on a toxic crab bucket basketweaving forum thinks about your looks?
If you actually want male validation and want to know if you're beautiful, then listen to the actual men in your life like your father, brothers, friends...

>>84779723
>This isn't true at all. Plenty of women date men who are less attractive than them.
because they select for value and how the man makes them feel outside of looks. being sub8 but le dark triad is a flavor of chad. though, all things remaining equal a mentally normative woman will always select the most attractive man in the room over any other trait.
>is that men are more likely to leave a very sick woman than vice versa.
iirc, this widely misrepresented via pure data. the reality is that most of these women could not afford to just randomly leave their husbands due to financial constraints, rather than actually wanting to stay.
>How do you know this?
look at how women act, not what they say.

Sorry for the typos btw, typing fast and in between things

>>84779411
Incels and femcels cant possibly exist as long as there are people who give out sex in exchange for something else, or males who have sex with anyone. It is a voluntary choice to practice celibacy. Sometimes its the right choice because people who are called incels are extremely violent and dangerous, but that doesnt meant they cant go have sex

>>84779754
Don't worry, I won't make that mistake again with talking to anyone off of here. And kek, my male family members treat me badly too because I'm ugly. I'm not beautiful, and that's okay. But I would like to at least be treated like a human being (literally just neutral) despite being ugly.

>>84779757
If you look at how women act then youll see most of them dont get with Chad at all, and almost never go to the parties that Chad goes to. Women say they like tall men but then go and date some short goblin retard who shouldnt be in the gene pool. How they act is a complete contradiction of the hypergamy theory

>>84779784
gay foid larp, rope yourself real fast nigger.

>>84779784
When you treat others like humans beings we'll be ready

>>84779757
>women will only select the most attractive man in a room
Men do this, too, though? It's an initial biological response and it mostly seen in developing children and teens. Actual, real life, adult situations are different.

>this widely misrepresented via pure data.
I can't find the source for this and see plenty of different reasons. I am opening to any reading you may have on it.

>look at how women act
Which women? The ones you see on social media and dating apps? I see both men and women who are incapable of having relationships. I don't think this is a gendered problem, like you seem to believe. There's plenty of "evidence" and anecdotal experiences that men are unloving, but it's does not correlate with the actual reality of the situation.

>>84779794
I don't treat people badly at all. I just get stuff like this >>84779790 online and irl

>>84779799
You're not Chickn are you?

>>84779810
Nope, I'm not chickn. The last thing I would do is create threads about myself or want to talk to more people off the board.

>>84779753
Don't give up, nona. Take care of yourself and probably quit interacting with the men here.
I know the real world has been cruel, hut you can glow up and find something out there for yourself. Not everyone is shallow. It's just more difficult to exist when you're competing with things like beauty filters and impossible beauty standards.
The best thing you can do to attract a partner is to work on yourself (specifically through things like individuation & maybe a little on looks - experiment with style and find what works for you, lose some weight if you think that's holding you back) and your confidence.
Once again, I know it is hard and feels impossible, but I believe in everyone's capacity for change. And do it for yourself, not a potential mate.

>>84779816
Ah ok, I was worried I was sympathising with a pedo. Either way I think you are probably inherently evil cause you are a woman but I don't want you to be called names and shit. Kick your family in the nuts if they call you ugly

>>84779828
Thanks. I probably won't get into a relationship and I'm fine with that. Coming here definitely is a form of self-harm though and I should stop

Why would you hate a woman just because she keeps to herself? I don't really buy into the whole incel/femcel thing. Yeah, ugly guys exist just like ugly girls do, but so what? Just be ugly your own way, idk. The real problem is when you're ugly and people make fun of you for it. At that point it's just bullying.

As a woman, I'm honestly telling you: stay away from these sites. No matter where you go, you'll find some people with empathy and others with misguided views who are ready to attack. Sharing your problems here is like bleeding in front of a shark. Good luck!!

>>84779845
I once got into a relationship with a girl I didn't find very attractive but by the end of the relationship I thought she was beautiful. She ghosted me but that's another story. Anyway, if you find a guy that gives you a chance and is kind to you he will eventually find you attractive. I'm sure you'll find someone

>>84779838
The cognitive dissonance on this guy is insane

>>84779784
Do you truly believe there isn't a single person currently in your life who genuinely likes you for who you are, treats you right, and actually thinks you're beautiful? Or are you just letting toxic male relatives and a miserable online loser drown out the people who actually care about you?

>>84779932
>Do you truly believe there isn't a single person currently in your life who genuinely likes you for who you are, treats you right, and actually thinks you're beautiful?
I truly believe this. Sure, I've had bad experiences, but even the ones that might initially like me realize other people find me ugly and bully me and they start mistreating me too. People are influenced by others

>>84779940
You're letting a few disconnected bad experiences distort your entire reality. Are the random losers on Discord, the anonymous trolls on 4chan, and the people in your daily life all secretly collaborating and comparing notes on you? Of course not. They don't even know each other exists.

>>84780144
That's what you're saying, not me. I just mentioned those experiences and made no implication that there's some conspiracy. People generally don't like ugly women. It doesn't matter where I live or what job I work or the clothes I wear. It always happens because that's human nature. Trying to convince me otherwise when you don't know what my day to day looks like is weird. I wish I was just delusional, but that's just how it goes.

>>84780209
you aren't delusional, you are a larper. you know the truth and you are saying otherwise because it is convenient for you. women are so unbelievably pathetic

>>84780229
Ah yes. There is no world where there is a truly ugly woman that society treats like a subhuman. The truth is, I am a selfish evil Stacy pretending to be ugly on r9k because... Nevermind that.

>>84780209
If they don't know each other, then they aren't being influenced by anyone.They are just individual assholes acting on their own.
Plenty of ugly, average, and beautiful people can experience genuine love and respect every single day.

>>84780269
I mean people irl that don't immediately treat me like garbage.
>Plenty of ugly, average, and beautiful people can experience genuine love and respect every single day.
I'm not one of them. Why is that so hard to believe? I'm in this shithole for a reason

>>84780209
nta but you might be making your own demons. I think people sense you are on edge and unhappy. I think you self sabotage because you are convinced of the outcome.

>>84780293
>I think people sense you are on edge and unhappy
Even if this is true, how on earth does that justify them treating me badly? I'm depressed but I'm not nasty to anyone and try my best to be functional.

>>84779460
>i'm a femcel because i choose to be one
Exhibit B

>>84779636
>There's plenty of women who date average or below average looking men.
women and reddit simps always say this but they don't actually know any real people.
i think they're all talking about the same hypothetical woman

Yes femcels exist
but people are working about what femcels are. Femcels are just ugly women, jealous of others, who have standards so high they'd rather stay alone than date their looksmatch. That's it. They're also more spiteful than your average incel

>>84779411
https://youtu.be/woL-s3ts2Po

>>84779715
you are volcel. it's akin to comparing yourself to struggling people who can't find jobs while you are a trust fund NEET

>>84780315
oh it doesn't justify it. But I think people can sense our depression no matter how functional we are. They avoid us at best, and if they are mean, it's because they are thinking "phew, glad its not me." Law of the Jungle/pick on the weakest link.

>>84780339
It's straight up newsworthy when a cute girl gets with an ugly fat guy. All I see when I go outside is guys more attractive and way taller than their girlfriends

>>84780347
>Femcels are just ugly women
And everything else is a justification of how ugly = bad person kek

>>84780357
>They avoid us at best
God, I wish they just avoided me. Would make life so much easier

>>84780339
No, I know real people and am one of them. I'm a sub-6 ex-incel who has a wife. Have a few friends are the same way. You only believe this because you're in an online echo chamber.

>>84779789
>most of them dont get with Chad at all
what do you mean by "get with"?

>>84780374
Good luck with your betabuxxing

Nah just lazy women afraid of sex with super high standards

>>84780251
Almost all societies in the world offer structurally-enforced benefits and privileges for women, both legal and social

>>84780414
>Almost all societies in the world offer structurally-enforced benefits and privileges for women, both legal and social
Please make me aware of what mine are so I can have a less miserable life.

>>84780282
I believe you. What is truly hard to believe isn't that you've met assholes but the idea that not a single person in your entire life has ever treated you decently. Out of every teacher, coworker, cashier, neighbor, or friend you have ever interacted with, nobody treated you with kindness and real warmth? That's not human nature, that's a statistical impossibility.
You are letting a handful of loud, miserable losers drown out every good interaction you've ever had. True friendships, real loyalty, people who actually have your back. They do exist.

>>84780393
Thank you. Ignoring your lil quip: I love my wife and my friends, and I believe this is the way life is meant to be lived. It has gotten so much better now that I don't constantly victimize myself. My friends and I have talked at length about our journeys.
You have two choices: grow or give up. If you don't want to change, nothing will ever change. You have to accept it will be a difficult road ahead, but I am much happier now.

>>84780372
What do they do, just walk up to you and call you ugly? Or are the subtle and snide, and you believe your perceived ugliness is the cause?
For me I found pity to be more insulting than any meanness, but that may be because it is emasculating as a guy to be pitied.

>>84780428
>Out of every teacher, coworker, cashier, neighbor, or friend you have ever interacted with, nobody treated you with kindness and real warmth?
I've had people who were kind to me, usually older people that I was very grateful for because they're so rare. You were talking about relationships which is completely different.

>>84780374
>You only believe this because you're in an online echo chamber.
This is an advanced form of gaslighting, where men are gaslit about anything "online" as if we're not watching real women post their real opinions about reality.
It's like saying "get off dating apps!!" as if women's behavior on those apps doesn't mirror meatspace and as if using dating apps isn't the primary way of finding relationships.
As if Tiktok doesn't exist. As if women don't record real interactions with men and put them online.

>>84780433
>Or are the subtle and snide, and you believe your perceived ugliness is the cause?
It's usually more subtle. People haven't just outright been like "you're ugly" since high school. It's worst in the workplace because you know what's happening, being left out of meetings, being overlooked when you go above and beyond, and denied for promotions because you're not attractive enough.
>pity to be more insulting
I don't think I've ever been pitied. I did have someone stand up for me once in high school when a gay guy was talking about how ugly I was.

>>84780424
You'll be believed by default if you make a formal complaint about a man, you'll be favored in divorce court, you'll be spared from the draft, etc.
You'll have a decent selection of men on any dating app or social media platform where you identify yourself as a woman.
You'll get preferential treatment almost everywhere, including at work and for social benefits/welfare.
If you ever become homeless you will be taken to one of the numerous shelters for women fast-tracked to permanent housing.
The safety net for women is massive and unassailable.
Shall I continue?

>>84780444
You only see the worst of the worst on social media. The algorithm is specifically designed that way. You can't base real life off of what you see online. Quit living in hyperreality.

And yes, get off dating apps. They aren't good for men or women. They're designed to keep you coming back, the same way as social media is. Modern dating culture is just cooked. It's not a gendered problem.

You have to come up with unique solutions to these problems, but vilifying half of the human race fixes nothing.
The women who are posting evil shit are evil, just like the men who do it. That's just life. Bad people exist. You have to choose to ignore it and look for the good.

Should women believe everything their echo chambers tell them? I'm sure they see men being evil online all the time, too.

>>84780439
If kindness exists for you, relationships can too.
Relationships start exactly the same way. With mutual kindness, respect, and connecting with who a person is on the inside. If older people can see your humanity and treat you well, then other people with actual maturity and substance can do the exact same thing.
And it is highly probable that you already have met people your own age who appreciated you for exactly who you are.

>>84779411
>>84779436
They do exist you moids literally just notice them because you don't see them as human.

>>84779411
They exist, But when they say men dont notice them they mean chad. Which makes more sense in context.

>>84780458
See that sounds a bit like you are projecting your own insecurities into the situation, when there could be other reasons.
But even if that's not the case, I'm going to assume its a majority women workplace; having worked at one for several years, inter-office drama can get bad, and they will use appearance as another fuel for drama.
>someone stood up to a gay guy in 20XX
in this day, thats bf material right there

>>84780502
>The algorithm
So tired of this dumb claim. Normies think places like these exist in a vacuum and reverse cause and effect.
"The algorithm" didn't do anything to me. I kept encountering womens' horrible behavior IRL, couldn't make sense of it, then eventually found the redpill/PUA/MGTOW/incel/blackpill content and finally understood what was happening to me and why.

>>84780502
>Should women believe everything their echo chambers tell them?
It doesn't matter if they should or not. What matters is they do.
Women's echo chamber is called "society" and their internet behavior is merely an extension of what goes on IRL.
This behavior existed IRL long before the internet was available.

>>84780324
1/10 bait. tsk tsk try harder next time

>>84780561
The worst content that gets the most replies and outage is what you're shown on social media. It is literally manufactured so those corporations can make more money. There's plenty of info on this out there. Go ahead and research how algorithms work. The more you look at certain types of content, the more the algorithm shows you and reinforces your beliefs (especially if it makes you angry). If you don't deliberately step outside of these spaces, then you will forever fall prey to them.

Those communities are echo chambers for people who want to live in victim mentality. They give simple answers for complex problems and boost your ego so you never have to look at yourself.

>I kept encountering womens' horrible behavior IRL
What's your actual sample size? Does it mostly include middle school/high school interactions? How many relationships have you been in? How many of them didn't come from dating apps?

My lived experience is different as an ex-incel.

>>84780635
>muh corporations
I am saying I was radicalized by women's behavior.
Maybe I can explain this in shitlib language so you'll hopefully understand: IT'S MY LIVED EXPERIENCE

>>84780579
>it shouldn't matter
It does matter and it's just illogical to base your entire worldview off of stuff you see online. Not every woman does this. Some are capable of thinking for themselves. Just like only some men are, as well. There are plenty of misandrists circles online.

>This behavior existed IRL long before the internet was available
How do you even know the extent of their behavior? What are you basing this assumption off of? The world has changed dramatically over the past ~20 years.

Promise I'm not trying to be a dick by asking all these questions, just trying to get to the bottom of your argument and maybe show you another way.

>>84780635
>What's your actual sample size?
something tells me you'd never attempt to dismantle a feminist's worldview in this manner
>Does it mostly include middle school/high school interactions?
My entire life
>How many relationships have you been in?
4 relationships, 2 long term ones (11 years and 5 years)
I've also hooked up with about a dozen women
>How many of them didn't come from dating apps?
1, my first love in high school

>>84780678
>How do you even know the extent of their behavior?
Firsthand experience
>What are you basing this assumption off of?
Being alive before the internet was generally available, you dumb fucking zoomer.

>>84780474
>You'll be believed by default if you make a formal complaint about a man
A bad thing would have to happen to me for that to be a thing in the first place. how is that good?
>Divorce
Also a bad thing. Also no one would marry me to begin with.
>Spared from the draft
Good, but if things got to that point, life would not be better.
>dating app
Nope. Too ugly for that humiliation ritual. Same for social media
>Preferential treatment at work
Complete opposite. Being on welfare is also bad because its a life of poverty. Same for being homeless.
>>84780542
Yes, it was women majority. Person that stood up for me was a girl of course.
>>84780506
I dont see it happening romantically, but thanks anyway.

>>84780360
There are ugly foids who aren't ugly outside and guess what they're not femcels. They find a partner in heartbeat just by being a female with normal standards
Incels no matter how good or bad they are on the inside. That doesn't matter cause they're short and ugly so they can't get laid anyway

>>84780668
You didn't respond to much of anything I said.

If you think corporations don't own the world and influence all of society these days, then you're willfully ignorant.

Good try, but I'm not lib. The point of adding "my lived experience" is an attempt to show you that there is a whole nother world of thought and possibility out there that you're choosing to ignore, so you can live comfortably in your own victimhood. If you only interact with media and ideas that reinforce your current ideas, then you'll never grow. You will never even have a chance.

It is difficult to look at yourself, but all those echo chambers and blaming the world for your strife will only make you miserable. It's just not a logical philosophy.

>>84780692
>you've never attempted to dismantle a feminists argument like this
No, I am actively against misandry and have had conversations from the other side with foids who subscribe to it.

Do you feel like you're a perfect partner and couldn't do anything to better yourself as well? I'm sorry if you've been hurt, but it usually takes two.

>>84779411
Yes, no guy has ever been seriously interested even online dating

>>84780746
Well, where are you from and what are you like, nona?

>>84780703
Fair enough. Just keep one thing in the back of your mind: the world is full of much better people than the ones you've run into lately. You already know that kindness exists for you. You aren't as alone or unlovable as this shithole forum makes you think.
Take care of yourself.

>>84780753
US, I think I'm pretty nice and pleasant. I'm too ugly for any man though

>>84780713
>thought
>philosophy
>echo chamber
shut the fuck up you absolute retard. i live this shit every day and places like these are my support group.

>>84780725
>I'm sorry if you've been hurt, but it usually takes two.
kill yourself, sincerely. please rope and improve the world, if only marginally.

>>84780828
I'm sure you can find someone if you apply yourself. I'm in the US as well. Upstate New York.
Pleasant is good, if a little vague.

>>84780840
Your "support groups" are toxic and encourage you to victimize yourself so that you never get better. The truth hurts.

>>84780852
Right on it, bud.

>>84780864
>apply yourself

I've tried online dating for more men than I can count, and even Anons off this board. After seeing my face not a single man has ever held interest

>>84780725
Amazing how you went from "it's all in your head" to "it's all your fault"
If you're going to troll and gaslight, consider choosing a direction and sticking with it. If you can't decide which tack to take, you'll end up looking like a fool (as you did here)

>>84780877
Well, that's part of the problem with dating online. People sever ties very easily since there isn't much of that strong hormonally reinforced connection that people build in person. Even then, a lot of romance is purely the luck of the draw.
I'd offer to give things a try with you, since I'm attracted to what is typically regarded as conventionally unattractive women, but frankly I'm a very broken person who has issues with intimacy and nice treatment so I'm almost certainly not the sort of person you would want.

>>84780938
Well I can't go out in public so online is my only option

>>84780881
No, I haven't said either of those things. You're choosing to twist my words and make yourself a victim. Again.

>>84780951
Do you have some form of physical disability? Is this that SPD nona that I browsed the threads of a few times, or am I confused?

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This girl is a femcel, which is why she masturbates.

>>84780979
Severe burn victim, I can't go out without people freaking out

>>84781050
I'm very sorry to hear that, nona. Just a small thought on my end, and perhaps it won't pan out, but it may be worth leading with that when seeking a romantic partner, actually. It may well filter out those who would be squeemish about that sort of thing, and perhaps more importantly, catch the attention of the sorts of men who enjoy fulfilling the role of a caretaker.

>>84781097
Leading with that has never even opened the door, whereas working towards it at least lets me talk to people and try to demonstrate some worth besides my appearance

>>84781114
I will be honest, I'm not entirely sure what the best way to handle this would be. Leading with it would narrow out a lot of people and likely ensure that when someone does connect with you it will be a long term success, but on the other hand I am exceptionally aware of how being without connection for a long time can feel very depriving. I won't tell you what's best, only that I hope that you find someone who can love and support you.

>>84779715
This is me, except I'm a man.
I recognize that I'm not an incel.
Listen you femretards, since apparently you need to add fem to everthing.
Incel = involuntarily celibate. You try to get sex, and you can't get it.
You are not trying, therefore you are not an incel.

With that said, I do hope you get better as I am in your exact position and I know it doesn't feel good.

>>84779849
>just because she keeps to herself?!
Because you are retarded as well. See the above incel definition. Someone who keeps to themselves is simply celibate or not social. There is no hate there (from most of us anyway).
Saying you're an incel as a female is LITERALLY saying "oh woe is me, I can't go out and get sex" when that's objectively not true. The reason for the hostility and malice is essentially because you are lying to us, blatantly, to our faces, and we recognize it as a lie.
>noooo I meant I can't get positive male attention or a relationship or whatever the fuck else I'm using femcel to mean teehee
Then you are not using language appropriately and we are hating you for that, because that is the sole means we have of making a human connection on this site and you're shitting all over it with your obtuseness.

>>84780144
>You're letting a few disconnected bad experiences distort your entire reality.
To be fair to her, I've had a handful of bad experiences with women and I've essentially swore off of them, so it's understandable.
Drug addict mother, ex-gf had an abortion, etc.
The human psyche can be exceptionally weak / fragile / vulnerable.

>>84780474
>you'll be spared from the draft, etc.
Being spared from the draft is due to being seen as the nation's breeding stock, which, while inherently true, is also the reason they are targeted by rapists.
The entirety of your post is accurate, I just needed to point out that the exact same thing that spares them from A subjects them to B, so it's almost disingenuous to mention A while ignoring B.
Stuff like hiring preferences and whatever have no real downsides (to them) so that's fine.

>>84780703
>A bad thing would have to happen to me for that to be a thing in the first place. how is that good?
It doesn't have to happen at all for the complaint to be filed, that's his actual point. You can lie and make shit up just for the lulz, and you will likely be believed until you ruin your reputation, but you can just go to a new area / company and start from 0 there with the "believed by default" again and go nuts.

>>84780678
>Some are capable of thinking for themselves. Just like only some men are, as well. There are plenty of misandrists circles online.
Distribution size.
Simply put, due to IQ differences, there are more men who are able to "think for themselves" then there are women who are able to do so. Of course, this is balanced out by there being more absolutely retarded men than there are absolutely retarded women, but it needs to be seen like this:
Retarded women: 20
Average woman: (still unable to think for themselves) 60
Smart woman: 20

Retarded man: 30
Average man: (still unable to think for himself) 40
Smart man: 30

Everyone normal and below are more heavily subject to propaganda and other influence, so that's 80% of women and 70% of men (demonstrative numbers only).

>>84781097
>>84781114
Both of these are equally valid approaches, it's really just the luck of the draw.

I know it's not what you or other lurkers want to hear, but I've known people who get a really bad accident happen to them, and decide to retire into a convent or monastery.
I'm not an active or participating member of any religion so I'm not trying convert or proselytize or anything.

>>84781311
>seen as the nation's breeding stock
>rapists
What the fuck are you even talking about? The birth rate has cratered and rape is very rare.

>>84781529
>seen as the nation's breeding stock
>wtf are you talking about
it is the reason that women are not drafted.
if you halve the number of men in a war, the population can return to normal the next generation as men will just impregnate more women. population growth is inherently tied to the number of females a population has, across any species not just human.
if women were drafted and we lost a lot of them, our population is cratered for several generations at the minimum.

The "worth" of a woman is her ability to bear children, the "worth" of a man is his labor, be it productive or militaristic.
A nation will draft its men to call upon their labor, and not draft women to allow them to still perform their labor.
This is the historical explanation.

>the birth rate has cratered!!!
Yeah and so has the draft.

>>84781264
what he said. i'm a non sex haver but i used to have sex (inb4 'she was canadian you wouldn't know her') and before that, I was an "incel".
most men can get a job and be self sufficient enough to attract SOMEBODY. she might not be top shelf but she probably likes to fuck as much as you do.
same with women. probably more so. women can get a 6/10 who at least isn't a drunken bum, just by not being also a drunken bum.

a lot of this discourse seems just to be about miserable people tearing down other people to be as miserable as they are. welcome to /r9k/ i guess

>>84781366
>You can lie and make shit up just for the lulz
No idea what the purpose of this would be. Also that only works for attractive women obviously. Who's going to believe anything an ogre of a woman says

>>84782248
She flirted with him at the office and he didn't receive her advances and made her feel ugly and unwanted, he'll pay for this!
Or he is ugly and flirted with her and made her feel ugly because he thought he had a shot with her. He'll pay for this!
It doesn't matter the reason, all you need to know is that it happens.
>but I, a woman, would never do that!
Congrats, many are not like you and they do, and it's not even small numbers. It's to the point that some men, one such famous example being the former VICE PRESIDENT of the country, would never be in a room alone with a woman to prevent such an accusation being made. Door open, cameras, aids, his wife, whatever.

>but doing that doesn't benefit her at all!
It doesn't have to, it just has to hurt him, which teehee coincidentally makes her feel better.
And, perhaps more damnably, some of these women actually believe their own lies because the high emotional state caused from consciously putting on the act causes them to somehow internalize it and come to later believe the words coming out of their mouth. It's pretty impressive actually from a psychological standpoint.

tl:dr;
>no idea what the purpose of this would be
>they're evil, that's it

>>84781956
>The "worth" of a woman is her ability to bear children,
one childless woman is considered to be more valuable than a thousand hardworking men in today's society

>>84780877
Are you fat or do you just think you have a bad face? What ethnicity?

>>84780509
As my favourite pedophile rapist would say, you are more right than you know.