If you were a woman would you fuck an ugly guy or the rich Chad hitting you up?

>>84796728
you won't get a relationship out of rich chad, he's there for one night, he's not gonna fuck you twice when he can have some other hoe spread her legs the next day

>>84796728
The reddit screenshot hole is obese and yet is still a total cunt to non-CHADs

>>84796746
at least she's honest, with the world and with herself.
she accepts she won't have what she wants and has therefore opted out of the game.
other foids would talk as if they're owed a top 10% man

>>84796746
Why would her being fat mean she shouldn't chase chad?

Female nature is so depressing, they have such ugly souls. I think they should stay alone

>>84796789
Because fats are disgusting

>>84796814
That's for Chad to decide

>>84796796
>women are evil
t. every single civilization on Earth since the dawn of recorded history (except this one)

Maybe we should have listened??????

>>84796827
We decided

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I already know this post will incite shit flinging because 99% of the people on this board will not relate, but I find it really weird that even a lot of women fall into this attractive guy=douchebag thing to the point of hallucinating douchebag traits onto attractive guys who are actually pretty decent - despite the fact that unlike men, they actually have the opportunity to know otherwise? I am a conventionally attractive moid and get hit on regularly, both women and men will regularly assume that I must be a douchebag or a player because I am physically attractive and they know other women would be interested in me by default. As a result, the only women who really approach me are those who are okay with that sort of behavior and expect me to act in ways I would explicitly frown upon, and those sorts repulse me. It genuinely incentivizes worse behavior from men. Most of the women I'm actually emotionally and even physically attracted to find me intimidating or otherwise make false assumptions about my character. As a result I really get a lot less play than pretty much anyone would assume, lol. It would be one thing if I got no attention at all, then this would be just another "women only like douchebags" post; but that isn't my experience so much as "women EXPECT douchebags." I can sort of understand why, but it's still a really bizarre social phenomenon and I'm not sure how many other guys experience this. I know that a lot of women do find a degree of aggression, independence, and individuality desirable, and I already know I'm going to get replies like "actually it's because women actually are attracted to douchebags" but that's not really what I'm talking about at all.

>>84796645
>I just wish women were more honest growing up, that is you want a good partner you have to sacrifice attraction. Or you go for attraction but then you get "douchebags." Or you're pretty and nice enough to get one of those rare ones, but that's fairytale-like.
I don't get how this is a bad thing overall. She grew and realized that she was being shallow. It's honestly hard to have realizations like that and at least she's honest with herself, and she's choosing not to date until she can get over it.
Again, obviously she's shallow, but at least she's self-aware of it. Most people, overall, aren't self-aware.
Plenty of men have to learn this lesson, too.

>>84796833
I said chad not chud

>>84796836
Many people here will never accept that there is are downsides to being attractive. Many of their lives revolve around their belief that beauty automatically equals getting what you want out of life and relationships. They believe this way because sex is their priority. Yes, you can get laid of you're attractive, but there is so much more to life than getting laid. You can still be attractive and lonely.

>>84796645
Women being honest about being chadsexual is a good thing. Telling sub-8 men that they can male feminist their way into being attractive to women and that being an oofy-doofy betabux husband equals success in life is what creates simps.

>>84796836
>whining about being an easymode chad
truly amazing, perhaps those women aren't so wrong after all?

>>84796873
Your dad, grandpa, great grandfather, great-great grandfather, and so on were "simps," by the current definition of the word.

>>84796880
So you don't think there's been a change in women's attitude and behavior in the past 15-20 years?

>>84796831
Forcing them to be decent isn't desirable either

I'm afraid everything we've ever been told in modern times is a lie. There is no way out and there is no love to be found in them, only exploitation. Even "top tier" men get divorce raped all the time

It's so fucking over, it never began even

>>84796880
Was it really simping when the quality of the women our great grandparents had access to is incomparable to today?

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Meanwhile the le true romantic pairbonding gender

>>84796814
They can still ride chad's cock daily. You'll get your turn eventually.

>>84796728
I'd fuck mousy looking skinny short guys with small dicks.

>>84796912
>1.2k likes
>the post its replying to has 2.3k
just try harder next time, niggerfoid.

>>84796949
Not a real argument, concession accepted

>>84796870
Ngl, most of the most naturally physically attractive women I've ever met are actually very lonely, too. This is exponentially true if they're notably intelligent or creative. People on this board assume life is all about looks, but the real dichotomy is normie vs non-normie and standards of deviation, less so ugly vs hot. Someone who is ugly can find community in their hobbies or interests if they're the sort that are shared by many. Plenty of extremely ugly people find very fulfilling social lives and relationships in places like game stores, group activities, conventions, etc. More normie adjacent "nerd culture" is booming right now largely because of this. Even the chuds and incels here find community among other chuds and incels, even if it's oppositional a lot of the time. Also, on the rare occasions I see other robots post pictures of themselves here, they're usually more attractive than they assume, though there are guys who know they're attractive here and post just to brag or make other guys mad. Also, if an ugly person isn't objectively genetically fucked they can also improve their appearance, and probably have a lot more social mobility than they'd assume. Meanwhile, being genuinely outside of the mean on any end of the spectrum is difficult in different ways that aren't easy to understand unless you exist there, imo.

>>84796645
Women's attraction is inherently antisocial and evil. It's a well-known fact.

>>84796870
if you fail at getting a relationship and love as an attractive person you're a bigger loser (and probably a pussy) than ugly dudes and you're trying to cope with it

>>84796645
inb4 she's on SSRIs and birth control

>>84796959
>even in this hyperspecific weird twitter post, the majority of men don't feel this way
>not an argument
kill yourself retard.

>>84796645
holy shit this might be the first ever recorded case of a foid being capable of not only introspection but accountability

>>84796983
This is only really true if you're mid, even if you're in the top 1%, most people will actually self-select out of your dating pool just because of their own assumptions. Then you have to contend with your own standards, even if you settle, obvious juxtaposition in a relationship creates its own unique problems. In reality, the rarer you are, the rarer your potential matches typically are. Think about celebrities for instance, how many of them actually have happy, long lasting relationships? You could say "well anyone would date so and so hot celebrity" - but that doesn't actually correlate with reality in any meaningful way.

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>i'm not the type of person to pick fights and look down on people but for some reason i do these things all the time

>>84797025
>most people will actually self-select out of your dating pool
pussy attitude. you have the power to make it happen if you want it. other people do not have that power.
>celebrities
people who burned their pair bonding ability from having too many partners

This is like the most reasonable thing I've ever read from a female here.
>Taking accountability for her bad behavior
>decides to be alone because she thinks its unfair that she acts like this
>realistic enough to know that she won't date chad

I applaud her and while I been down that road- while I wasn't really mean I didn't think it's fair to the other person and I certainly didn't like myself for doing it.

>>84797061
you could read that unfair line as in it's unfair to HER

>>84797027
lol what the fuck is that image
>>84796836
generic chad larp

>>84797048
>you have the power to make it happen if you want it.
You can say this, but that isn't actually true. Yes, I "could" get laid if I wanted to, but it requires that I basically act like a different person, set aside my standards, and go for someone I have no real interest in. You can also probably bang a really ugly chick, an insane girl, or pay for a prostitute. You can also look up endless porn or whatever else you like to do. But actual connection isn't something you can drum up in the same way. If anything, empty connection or satisfying purely sexual needs out of lack is more lonely than just abstaining. Hooking up with some random woman I can't actually relate to or get along with feels about the same as hiring a cheap whore, I've tried it and it's completely empty. I imagine most celebrities would feel about the same in regards to hooking up with a fan or something, even if they're pretty hot. It's only really people who are actually addicted to sex and need it to cope who find any fulfillment in that stuff, which to be fair is a lot of people.

>>84797085
i'm not talking about purely hooking up. if you're attractive you will have the option of dating women who are only slightly less attractive than you. your pool of potential partners is huge compared to most people and you whine that you're unable to find ones to connect with among that huge pool, whereas a normal guy only has a tiny puddle to choose from if anything at all. you're saying that there isn't a single woman in that huge pool that you might connect with on a mental or soul level, which is ridiculous, you just suck at looking how for them about you admit that.

>>84797108
Anon I have bad news, some attractive guys are into some very niche stuff that is pretty outside the range of like 95% of the population

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>>84796923
I dont want a turn

>>84796645
>fat roastie resolves to die alone because she can't get Chad

What's the problem again?

>>84796870
>Many people here will never accept that there is are downsides to being attractive
When the positive completely outweigh the negative, well yes no shit Sherlock.
Of course being attractive is another set of shitty problem but between that or being ugly or mediocre, the struggle doesn't compare and the choice is obvious.
So yes it might so suck for them but fuck them too for having it good and coming here of all the places to complain.

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>>84796836
>both women and men will regularly assume that I must be a douchebag or a player because I am physically attractive and they know other women would be interested in me by default.

I'm attractive too. But I'm extremely tall, very twinkish with a very friendly face and great hair. I'm intimidating in height only but very safe looking in the face and body. Pic related is cost to my face.

Nobody thinks I'm a douchebag at first sight. Girls face down and at me repeatedly throughout my life because I didn't want to be their boyfriend like they imagined, even if we were just hanging out as friends. They would imagine we were in a date and then literally talk shit afterwards because I didn't kiss them. But the funny thing is that I'm actually a complete asshole with asperger and severe mood swings, addiction problems, deep connections with the far right, a personality disorder, financially useless, etc.
Your look generally reflects your personality. I can't tell you the number of exes who insist that I'm a kind person deep down inside. They insist. I don't think they are right.
So it's about your look.
When incels say they are incorrectly judged I believe them because I don't look like the person I am

>>84796645
All of a sudden when its a woman parroting the BP from a different perspective and providing her own anecdotal evidence bluepillers get it and give her 993 upvotes. Funny how that works

>>84796645
I think she actually has a pretty good head on her shoulders, there's logic to her words which is unlike a good deal of women.

>>84796645
>be a way
>"no thats not how i am ;("
Why are women like this?

>>84797027
I chuckled at that part too but she's really trying.

>>84797955
her = brave truth teller
you = bitter delusional incel

>>84798017
Well ofc. She has the most powerful JBW of all and the halo effect and women are wonderful effect are 90% of normgroid psychology that they never examine or reflect upon. Let me add to this: the halo effect IS morality and ethics

>>84796728
What about poor chads vs rich uggos

>>84796836
attractive guys ar polarizing this is basic pua basic sour grapes shit women will also go ballistic when rejected by chad worse than any incel rage calling him an asshole small dick etc. Women are just really immature in general, everything they say about the behavior of men is projection.

>>84798259
We have talked about this already the chad/betabuxx female dual mating strategy the poor chad will get someone who actually loves him while rich uggo will get someone who settles for him for lifestyle reasons

>>84796870
The downsides are minimal. You are mote polarizing that's about it. Stop coping you're probably just a loser who fucked it up anyways being attractive is a gigantic blessing even outside of romance/dating.
t. attractive

>>84796896
>Forcing them to be decent isn't desirable either
Wrong, women are basically barely sentient computers. They can be programmed to act certain ways. The fact is today they are programmed to be man hating cunts.

>>84797927
Yeah, from the sounds of it I have a very different look from you - I am aware it's a factor to some extent. I'm pretty muscular, not remotely twinkish, with darker/sharper/more angular features. Young Vincent Gallo would probably be a good comparison in terms of general phenotype, but I probably have about 15-20lbs of extra muscle on me, don't look nearly as hungover by default, and my face is blockier/more rectangular, with much less round/buggy eyes and a more defined brow/jaw/cheekbone structure. Even if I lost most of that muscle I still kind of inherently look more "evil" than the average dude, mostly because of dark features and overall disposition lol. I've literally been compared to that famous painting of Lucifer crying before, lmfao. Honestly tho I still had the same problem when I was a chubby, dorky teenager - people just associate certain features with certain personality traits. It might be different if I was more cuddly looking I suppose but I kind of just think that would give me more mass appeal and I don't know if that's really the issue here. Frankly, it probably has more to do with my own background/interests/taste/standards, which is why I specifically point out that I think it's more about deviation from the mean than attractive vs not attractive as most anons assume. If anything I wouldn't mind attracting less women who also like golden retriever types.

>>84796728
>rich Chad hitting you up?
baby trap the rich chad. It's the obvious answer.

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>>84798218
>the halo effect IS morality and ethics
Lol. Brutal if true

>>84798380
>famous painting of Lucifer crying
Eyemaxxer. Yes.
You seem Asperger's to me. Meanwhile, I look like a guy from a Sears catalog who belongs in a sweater holding your hand next to a fireplace, but I do heroin and I have a personality disorder.
I think most of the time people's perception of our looks is accurate, but there are certainly outliers.
We evolved to be expert judges of other people's personalities. Even if those judgments are inaccurate, they are there for a reason

>>84796739
>you won't get a relationship out of rich chad
If you have his baby that's a pretty good excuse for you to be around him. Proximity matters. Now you're there with his kid, so he has to interact with you at least some. baby trap chad

>>84796645
>I'm not the type of person who does this, even though I keep doing it
Yep, sounds like a woman.

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>>84796739
>>84798419
People forget, but Chad's status is temporary. Very few guys can still maintain that title at age 40. The question is getting him at the right time. A girl can easily land him if she is there when he is ready to settle down.

They even joke about it. They say guys just wake up one day and decide they're ready to get married and pick the first woman nearby them. The problem is that a lot of these women have racked up a body count. Way too high to ever get a decent man.

I saw a blog for women and and they nailed it. You want to be in your early twenties and you want to be looking for guys who are between the ages of 25 and 28. Guys with a lot of potential but who haven't really hit their career peak yet but are looking for something serious. You don't want to be a 30-year-old woman trying to lock down a 35-year-old man. The good ones are already taken by that point. So you want to keep a really low body count and only pursue guys in their mid to late twenties if you really want to score big. Don't sleep with them unless it's a very serious relationship and he is explicitly saying he's looking for a wife and children
Feminism completely screwed over an entire generation or two of females. They have no clue what they're doing. Chad marries a low mileage younger woman ever time

>>84798413
>Even if those judgments are inaccurate, they are there for a reason
People are buckbroken by media. I can't really offer any other explanation considering that many people considered hot today would be considered hideous fags 100 years ago.

>>84796728
if i was a woman i'd slit my own throat so i'd stop being a woman

>>84798447
The first time I heard of Ashley St Clair was right before she baby trapped Elon. She posted a Youtube video about how everyone, women and men, should lower their standards. Tradcuck slop about how men should be slaves and provide for women. Now she's probably making up more lies because "the richest man on earth" won't give her all his riches. Pretty clever. More women should baby trap rich chads, and elon.

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>>84796645
>Femoid psychology will never cease to amaze me
It has ceased to amaze me decades ago when I saw it growing up with my bitch whore mom. I don't know why incels can't get over it just ignore women you figured it out congrats now stop dwelling on it

>>84797061
Yeah for real I wish more women were honest about their nature and instead of complaining about made up shit like muh personality icks encourage men to be more attractive and get plastic surgery and the like men and women alike would be happier

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>>84798495
>Feminism completely screwed over an entire generation or two of females.
Please, they choose feminism with open arms every time it's offered regardless of the context. Seeing them as "victims of feminism" is playing into the same gynocentric book of female tricks. So is reducing men to walking wallets, like your post implies

Feminism IS female nature

>>84798413
Tbf I was a VERY angry kid, so I do agree that somehow it seems peoples' features are to some extent shaped by their upbringing or something - there often is a sort of strange truth to them, and I often wonder if it's a chicken or egg scenario. It's a similar thing with names, like how some Daniels or whatever other name just seem like a "Daniel," and sometimes I wonder if it's simply because YOU know that person as Daniel, or is there is some sort of socially created "Daniel archetype?" Or, do Daniels somehow adopt a Daniel personality through a process of being treated as a "Daniel," thus identifying as such over time via reinforcement. You could ask a similar question about incels, I think most would argue they're created somehow. But take your case for instance, which kind of seems counterintuitive to this concept. In all likelihood it's a combination of all of the above. Either way, I've mellowed out a fuck ton, have no real vices, and most people who know me well say I'm a very friendly, well rounded dude with "designated driver dad energy." Regardless, when I meet people most of them think I'm Patrick Bateman or some shit, for better or worse. Pretty much the polar opposite of what you describe lmfao. You're probably right that I come off as being a little on the spectrum or something, though. Being raised by the internet and videogames will do that to you.

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Theres no undoing 100 million years of evolution.

>>84796645
Someone tldr this

>go on 4chan to not read reddit
>get reddit screenshots
you surely post them a lot despite hating them, huh?

>>84799214
TLDR foid admits that looks are everything and that 'muh personality' is actually just perceived personality from good looks femcel in denial evolves to emotionally honest normie basically

>>84796728
I'd kill myself assuming I had enough self awareness

>>84796880
They would have been if they weren't already. Do you think whores didn't exist in the past?