Being alone in your 30s is so much worse than your 20s. Everyone you used to know has a girlfriend, mortgage, kids, getting married etc and you're just sat alone with your video games in a rented apartment alone with no friends, no gf and no kids.
>>84805562I just don't understand why I got the whole failure to launch thing. Like, everyone around me for some reason grew up and grew out of things. But I never changed. I am literally the exact same person at 34 that I was at age 16. I still like video games, building PCs, motorcycles, nature and hiking. Like I haven't changed. But everyone around me grew up and their hobbies divulged and their personalities changed. I just dont get why this happened to me. Why did I never change? Did my parents go too easy on me and I was never challenged enough to change?
>>84805562People I used to know are homeless now, drug addicts, or in jail for murder. I think I do pretty good to be living with my parents doing nothing. Shit's pretty chill.
>>84805562I'm saving up to go semi off-grid. I don't think I can or want to go fully but I don't want to live in a rented shoebox or in a shitty house with a 50 year mortgage. As for comparisons yeah sure a lot of the people I knew or grew up with became successful in the normalfag sense but it's not all sunshine and roses especially the ones who got married and/or had kids. It's a lot of stress for very little reward and zero respect. And for what? So a small part of their DNA can live on when they're rotting in the ground?
>>84805672>especially the ones who got married and/or had kids.this is all normies care about though. If you have achieved those things, you are a normal person in their eyes, even if you have divorced or are living in bad conditions. As long as you've had kids and paid bills, you are good to them. Otherwise, you just get looked down on.
>>84805579probably but after a certain point its up to you to challenge yourself or whatever
I just started getting high to cope. I did my best but now all thats left is hedonism
>>84805579>I just dont get why this happened to me. Why did I never change?You are what you do. If you do same things you stay the same. You do new things you become this new thing. Normal pass of new things is having career, own place, marriage and having kids. Do you have them?
>36Just started a new job.Everybody that I introduce myself to is married and has kids. "Oh yeah I have a little one, haha"I always have to pretend like I'm glad I'm alone when I tell them about my life during the introduction.I die every time a little on the inside.
>>84805946Feel felt. I say stupid shit like "Still in my nerd bachelor era for now, it's a process" and laugh it off.
>>84805889>Do you have them?Nope. Well I have a job but it's not really much of a 'career'. I have my own apartment but its rented and not mortgaged.
>>84805562>girlfriend, mortgage, kids, getting marriedHonestly I'm so glad I'm not tied down by any of that bullshit. I do get crippling lonely from time to time, but if that's the price I have to pay to avoid the unlimited stress I would get from having a partner or even worse a child I'll happily pay that price every time
I love having money and being alone. Im sure my life will be absolute hell when I become a senior citizen but let's be honest, most kids abandon their vulnerable older parents anyway so fuck em. I got mine. When health concerns can no longer be dealt with ill jump off a cliff. Yeah it sucks I've been aged out of certain hobbies. Im not comfortable talking to people online anymore because i know theyre going to be kids but i dont need to be friends with someone to call them a tranny nigger faggot. Yeah, life aint so bad. Im still kicking ass and playing video games, drinking like a sailor and doing whatever the hell i want. Its funny because this is how i imagined what adult life could be like when i was a kid. So im living out my childhood fantasies of adulthood
>>84806123How does one become like this? I find it difficult not to compare myself to other successful people. Especially when you have to work around these types of people and they throw it in your face all the time.
>>84806188I was ostracized and shy as a kid and had low self esteem. I was finally able to make peace with life but it was a struggle to get here. I also work alone mostly, doing a redneck white trash job with other fuck ups. My only friend has kids but he's a retard manchild like me
I'm almost 34 and only recently a psychiatrist asked me if I've been diagnosed with autism (I haven't).
>>84805562I have to ask why you let this bother you so much when those people aren't thinking of you. Lets be honest, people do care, but in a negative way. When it's time for them to treat someone like shit so they can feel good about themselves, then we exist. But the rest of the time, we may as well not exist to them.
not sure what the fuck else to do in my free time except drugs. let's see how long i can keep this sober thing going, supposedly i'll start feeling better mentally and eventually the boredom will push me to find meaningful ways to spend time. surely.
>>84806358I also recently started having more meltdowns/shutdowns which made me consider whether I have autism. I don't think I do, I think I'm just an introverted underachiever.
>>84806500I'm getting tested for it next month. I wouldn't be surprised if I got autism, because I'm really sensitive to loud noise at home as well.
>>84805579>Did my parentsYes. It took me a while to come to terms with it, because my parents loved me. But they didn't love me enough to let me fail, if that makes sense.Both of them were perfectionists, but not in the "force you to be perfect" way. Instead it was "I can do it better/faster/efficiently, just don't bother with it son. Hit those books kiddo!" Couple that with little to no encouragement from them to make an attain friends, and I lived a sheltered and blissfully ignorant life until college.Despite how obvious it seems, people really undervalue how much influence your childhood has. You have to take personal responsibility as well at times, but the parent factor can't be forgotten.
Missing out on teenage love destroys your life.
>>84806524Fair enough. I feel like I'm able to discern certain sounds and visuals better than most people, but I don't get overwhelmed by them. Or things like food textures. Or reading body lanuage. My only real claim to tism is me being a loner with deep unconventional interests. Seemingly minor things can cause me to flip shit or shutdown. I can't stand small talk. I could probably cheese a diagnosis, but have no reason to even try at this point.
31 years old and lie and say I'm 26 so people talk to me
>>84805562Those things are scamsMet many broken, divorce raped men
34 living with mom, haven't had a job in 12 years. I am fucked. Probably the biggest failure here.
>>84806595my ex brother law is a newly such raped man. lost his job so my sister left him. he also took on debt to pay debt. he's fucked
>>84806611Damn you are uber fucked.
>>84806611same age, just a couple less years out of work. I don't see that changing anytime soon.Did you ever have a job, or try to get one? I had one for a few years after college, but nothing since.
do we have women (adult human females) in the 30+ general?how does your experience differ from a male's 30+ feels?
>>84805562I oscillate between two moods at this stage in my life, complete despair and complete hatred.
a lot of oldfag cope threads today why is thatsome loser spamming this shityou had your time, and your time was better than current day. seethe all you want faggots,
>>84805562Nah, I am living it up, going to networking events, working on things that were only dreams when I was a kid.>>84805579Me neither, my interests never changed and I am farther along than my piers. Many folks got married for the sake of such.>>84805946>>84806049>I die every time a little on the inside.Nah, stop trying to be like everyone else. I associate having kids too early with mediocrity. My mom actually said she gave up her dreams to have a family, that scares me. Both of my parents were middle children and didn't go as far as their elder siblings.>>84806595correctamundo, getting married for the sake of getting married is friggin' stupid.
>>84805562>Being alone in your 30s is so much worse than your 20s.Don't be so pessimistic anon, you can make it worse :D>get depression and quit job for a few years to NEET it up>work gap>no social network because you dropped it all>older and are now no longer capable of being preferred for entry level jobs
>>84806576Listen anon. I had teenage love. I even had teenage sex. We went on to have a several year relationship that I did my absolute best to scrub from my memory that absolutely ruined me. There are worse things than not having teenage love, I assure you.
>>84807621nta but there is a difference between just never experiencing teenage love/sex, and fumbling at the goal line. Repeatedly. Over decades.
>>84806576Stop acting like a white girl. My friend almost hung himself because his highschool crush dumped him. You have to learn early that these girls just want to have a public face. I myself have never had a "girlfriend" but I have been asked to be an IR cuckold a multitude of times. Girls have told entire crowds of people I was un attractive, only to flash me and give me a hand job later that night. Getting married for the sake of getting married ruins your life.
>>84805562It's awful. All I ever wanted was a gf/wife to be by my side.
>>84805579>I still like video games, building PCs, motorcycles, nature and hiking. Like I haven't changed. But everyone around me grew up and their hobbies divulged and their personalities changed.This is also me but I finally learnt how to be social in my late 20's.now married in a rented apartment
>>84807428i've given nihilism a try and it works most days
>>84807666Fumbling at the goal line at least let's you get there. So I guess here there are three different scenarios here:1) first anon2) your fumbling at the end repeatedly, which I do admit has the possibility of letting you end up where the next one does3) my situation which, without going into much detail but if you must know, abortion burns you so badly you completely stop trying for any relationship. I guess other possibilities here include false accusations, getting cheated on, and other such bad ends.My point is that missing out on teenage love does affect you undoubtedly, but at least you still possess the will to keep trying (unless you tell yourself it's hopeless and psych yourself out).
>>84807667He may be overreacting at least via his word choice, but missing out on proper socialization experiences fucks you up for sure. It's a reason why a lot of wild animals get rekt when cared for by humans early in life.>>84807859I'm genuinely glad to hear things (seemingly) turned out well for you anon. I hope you keep that happiness.
>>84805579nah. shit happens, luck of the draw. I know guys who could describe themselves in the same way as you do, but they're married and all of that shit. I challenge myself constantly, have a ton of friends all over world, etc, but have never been in a long term romantic relationship, and I'm closing in on 50>>84806123hell yeah brother
Not being born as a chad is a curse..
>>84807969>spoilerDamn anon, I'm sorry that happened to you. I'd like to say I'd get furious and angry and do something that would get me arrested if that happened to me. But I know at the moment, with someone you love/d, you must have felt helpless and numb.But to your last sentence, for a long while I did psych myself out and lose the will to try. I've been trying to dig myself out of that hole.What I've seen is that women view a guy with 0 exp as more of a red flag than a guy with baggage (regardless of if it was his fault or not)
>>84808229>What I've seen is that women view a guy with 0 exp as more of a red flag than a guy with baggageBaggage shows that they have lived. Likely have some idea of how to deal with life and maybe be interesting and have experiences to bond over.
>>84805562yeah people should be having kids from 16-24
>>84808507yeah that's what I was meaning. Its a self perpetuating cycle, and I'm trying real hard not to regress again.I guess for the anon I was replying to, there is still hope out there, when/if you are ever ready
>>84805562I am 32 at the moment and life is at 5/10 for me. I am undiagnosed but I know I have autism/adhd. I struggled a lot with it growing up having to mask as much as possible to seem normal. Luckily, I still have a few high school friends I still play Xbox with every other day even though I am struggling to play with them most days. A wife who also has the same problems as me but is worse and cant do anything without me which is okay. I was able to figure out how to mask early on in life even though I still have issues with eye contact and conversations with people that make me want to run away and when I cant I get really sweaty and stuff. Dont even get me started on school next sheesh. Anyway, my mom wont leave me about having kids and she just got into a accident recently riding her scooter giving the family a heart attack and blah blah blah I hate where I am in life and feel stuck and want out before I blow my brains out blah blah blah.
>>84806794Thanks man, I really appreciate that
>>84808842>5/10>Wifebruh
>>84808951Like I hate where I am in life. I mean it could be much worse but she is the one making it worth it so far if it was not for her I would have taken my life I am sure of it. We are trying to move across the world but getting my paperwork/visa stuff is taking forever.
>>84805562Lately ive been feeling like the third wheel even when im alone. I know like all my friends have gfs, and at this point, they mostly all have wives or are engaged. It feels like they spend all their time with them and thats good enough. Like they dont need to hang out with friends like me anymore. Just them and other couples maybe. But I still get told not to worry about it and that that's not true if I ever bring it up to them. But I cant pretend that's not the way it is and I dont feel that way.
>>84808507>>84808691Here's what you do. Just say you've been on dates, but no one ever clicked enough to want to make them your gf. This is 100% true, you just leave out the fact that you're referring to VNs and other dating sims lol.>>84808229>I'd like to say I'd get furious and angry and do something that would get me arrested if that happened to me. But I know at the moment, with someone you love/d, you must have felt helpless and numb.It happened right after the break up, so I was mostly in shock. I've already spoken about it here so I don't want to repeat the story enough for it become a thing. But yeah suffice to say people usually say "I'd like to react X way" and then once it actually happens they find themselves maybe reacting X way, maybe reacting Y way. >>84808951Pretty easy to figure out. A companion to life can make life better, but it's not all there is to life. Fulfillment, work, health, hobbies, there's a lot necessary to feel good about life.
>>84805562>Friends all spat out two kids and started turning down everything I tried to set up.>Spent a year just sitting in my room living on benefits, spending all day on porn, smut, and messaging people who were "too busy" to catch up for an hour.>Always the type of person who needed someone else to do things with.>Tried to go do something alone and ended up in hospital because I couldn't breathe.>Turns out not going out for a year gave me agoraphobia.>Gave up on fake friends who wouldn't make time for me.>Guess I can't meet new people because panic attacks every time I try.>Haven't worked in years and every time I tried I got harassed with HR complaints for no reason calling me bossy, overbearing and rude for no reason, so that just isn't an option.>Every time I worked a job I ended up suicidal within 3 months anyway from stress.>Gave up on dating because my exes all got insecure and freaked out and turned the relationship into constant argument hell.>Now the government has taken away one of my last copes so I'm spending all day on here instead.I don't even know what to do anymore.I tried everything, nothing worked, I'm out of ideas and it just keeps getting harder.
>>84809113At least for me, as I got older I lost the drive to be social, much like I lost the drive for a gf.It sucks that your lonely, and I have no good words to give you or advice. I hope you find peace with it soon. Maybe get a pet
>>84809151Basically sounds like me minus the agoraphobia.I don't know either anon.But you're not alone (metaphorically at least).
>>84809152I've got a cat. He's cool. And I can meet up with people if i try. But it still feels bad half the time just being around them because I just see what I lack in myself, in them. I might have money and other things, but ive always lacked a relationship. And now it feels like its getting too late. Any compliments they might ever give me fall flat because I dont have love. Hanging out with people is just a temporary, very good, distraction to my lifelong lack and inability to get any long term emotional or physical intimacy with a girl.
>>84809151>Friends all spat out two kids>Gave up on fake friends >I tried everything,How about don't be an ignorant prick.
>>84806123Based. Being able to own the position you have in life is the best thing you can do. I waver in and out of this attitude. Like ill go out on drives and walks in the city just checking shit out, going to a bar, with no where to be and no time i need to be back and no one I have to tell this too or check in with. Now im drinking after making a sandwich and eating it outside with my cat as the sun sets listening to Neil Young. Theres moments of good times being alone and single and free. But seeing couples and cute girls is all it takes for me to sink down into loneliness for a while. Its an effor
>>84806594>look for people to play a game with>some girl messages me>asks my age>i say 31>she doesn't respondlike bro, i just want people to queue with. people in their 20s think life ends at 30 and that i am a creep. chances are if you enjoy playing games in your 20s you might still find some enjoyment from it in your 30s.
Is it weird that I finally feel like dating at 34?
>>84809181It wasn't like they had them all at once, and you should still be able to make time for people.>Yeah but I have to look after the kids so can we do lunch at my place?>Can you help me with the strollers and crap if we go out?It's not that fucking hard.
>>84809156I am, but thanks anon.
>>84805579My parents were too hard on me and I ended up basically like that except im barely interested in the stuff I used to be interested in
>>84809261>Is it weird that I finally feel like dating at 34?Good luck.
>>84805579That's because normie men give up the things they like to please some woman. And those are the guys that get stuck in a marriage that makes them unhappy.
>>84805562At least I dont have any stds. I am objectively better than anyone who has them.
>>84805562The funny thing is that I was never much into vidya. I am basically a failed normie volcel retard. I could have easily been one of your betabux friends but I opted out. I might be lonelier than ever but at least I have fucking money to spend on myself and the freedom to do whatever the fuck I want when I want and on my terms only.
Not really. In my 20s I was surrounded by people enjoyed socializing, partying, networking, whatever. It was alienating to be immersed in that but lack the desire or motivation to participate. Now, at 32, my peers have calmed down a little bit and I don't mind being around them. Bunch of pathetic failed normies in this thread. I learned long ago to never compare myself to others. If I had what they have, I wouldn't be me.
I'm so fucking stunted mentally that I'm still playing Roblox. I have to be the biggest weirdo retard on /r9k/.I recently joined this RP game to see if there was any good reason it had 530k players. I made a house and just fooled around town on my own, riding a bike, visiting buildings. Then two girl avatars barge into my house, wearing this tattered clothing, asking me if I could adopt them. they wanted me to roleplay as a dad. I barely put them to bed and leave because my anxiety was getting to me. Then one of them roleplayed getting kidnapped by a random intruder and wanted me to save her. I quit without notice.Maybe this is really mild, but I never did RP before so it's left a bizarre taste. But it was a little fun. And yeah I'm pedo or whatever, even though accounts have to be 18+ verified to chat with me. so assume they were adults, perhaps stunted ones like myself.
Just chilling my broshttps://youtu.be/ytp4zaU_Z6I?si=Puxy8otkmvrfRFxZ
How do you deal with loneliness in your thirties?
>>84810517shitpost on the Internet
>>84809202I ask out women older than me. Its a shame there aren't more single childless girls at 40, because they're fun to be around when they have their own midlife crisis and seek assurance with a guy like me.
>>84810636It seems that it helps less and less with passage of years.
>>84810517by resenting peopleworks wonders
i turned 30 12 days ago
>>84810517>How do you deal with loneliness in your thirties?I have never felt this in my entire life. I prefer being alone and doing things alone, even if others offer to join me in things I decline most of the time. I find people extremely annoying pretty much all the time, but some are very useful. Most just bring tons of drama into your life, which is why I avoid them to a point if possible. Other than that, I just do random stuff if I feel like it.
>turning 44 in a few daysI just realized that people in my generation(s) are among the first ones who were able to waste their youth in front of a computer while the normies were sex having and partying, I have no friends, no gf, no career, no savings, no ambition.. nothing.
>>84811111Checked>turning 44 in a few days>I have no friends, no gf, no career, no savings, no ambition.. nothing.How do you survive being 44? Your parents still or NEETbux?
>>84811111>...nothingNothing but those quints, holy shit.
>>84811129I have a job, but there's zero chance of ever getting any career progression. But at least I got quints!
>>84811111I was a NEET for my entire youth then started falling into good high paying jobs in my mod 30s just because it's easy to look the part. It doesn't matter how incompetent you are, if a 44 year old man is cleaned cut and dressed well he will LOOK competent. Lie like absolute crazy about your work history and look the part and you will make it. It's actually way easier to lie on your resume the older you get because they don't expect you recount 20+ years of job history so you get tons of your life written off for free and only have to come up with lies for the last 5 years or so. Lie lie lie and look the part (easy the older you get) and you can land random good jobs young people couldn't dream of even with no work history. Seriously, imagine a 44 year old man dressed in business casual clean cut with a fresh haircut and standing up straight. Not a single person would think "I bet this guy never leaves the house and hasn't worked in decades!" normalfags are shallow as fuck and your appearance works in your favour for competence as a middle aged man
>>84805579I'm beginning to think I've spent my entire life with undiagnosed ADHD and the peer reproach for my acting out resulted in me becoming an avoidant person who gradually retreated into isolation and avoidance of new experiences which ultimately led to where I am now.
>>84811184I don't want to think too hard about that personally
>>84811184>duuude it all comes down to one disorder and if they had put me on amphetamines i would be the president now
>>84809736>If I had what they have, I wouldn't be me.Maybe. I've become a massive normie in the last 10 years and am still me.I've even come to read and love Blake though I feel very humbled by his intellect.
Anons ITT:>How old are you?>What do you spend your time doing (besides working if you do work)? Do you actually enjoy it?>Do you have any health problems?>Do you wish you would die in your sleep? Yes or no?
>>84811206Datamine me pls>31>Shitposting, hiking, mountain biking, get dragged into doing stupid shit by my gf, currently studying to change careers>surprisingly no>only sometimes
>>84805562Work has been my main avenue for meaningful excitement/happiness for the last 5 years (ie excluding jacking off), but work gets increasingly painful. I find myself getting very paranoid and angry about coworkers, and while occasionally I sleep it off and realize I was worrying over nothing, I can't ignore the real and obvious striver threat either. I'm probably going to be laid off next year and don't know what I'm going to do after.
>>84811192Just food for thought, It's not comfortable for me to ponder either. As much as we joke about it I don't actually want to believe I'm autistic or something else.>>84811201I think it has to. Nothing else went wrong in my childhood. I can even remember key inflection points where kids responding to my acting out made me feel incredibly ashamed (hence I still remember them) and I'm confident these are the reasons I went from being very gregarious and experimental to wanting to be as inconspicuous as possible so no one would say anything about me.
>>84811206>How old are you?Getting there.>What do you spend your time doing (besides working if you do work)? Do you actually enjoy it?Normie stuff, gym, guitar practice, read though not much this year>Do you have any health problems?Hopefully not>Do you wish you would die in your sleep? Yes or no?Not for another 50 years at least too much to do and enjoy
>>84811169The dressing part is where I fail, no idea how to do that well. Mostly due to being overweight my entire life, so there's that. I got my current job with a t-shirt/jeans combo. Advancing in career is kinda pointless because the women are just not worth it. Not a single more digit to my income can fix missing out on life, teenage love etc things.
>>84810517AirTalk. It can also be the fucking worst though... I matched with a girl with a cute voice and she was about to give me her Discord when the call connection crashed out fml
>>84811489Im not normie enough for such thing.
Bruh I can't wait to get on fucking welfare. I can only imagine all the nice clothing I'll be able to buy, and maybe I could get a dodge challenger or a lexus or something. I don't know but I've been broke for so long. I'm thinking I could get an apartment maybe and a treadmill so I could stop being such a fat lard. I'm so excited. Being schizo is painful but thinking about the money I'm going to get makes things better. I plan to go to the gym all the time and get in shape and then maybe I'll find someone who's interested int me. I'm feeling hopeful
>>84805562I'm just a spoiled fuckup. I had everything given to me and I ruined it. Had a BMW, I destroyed it before I even got a license. Had a gf, broke up with her for vein reasons. Was in college, dropped out just to be a junkie loser. I'm a mess
>>84810663As long as you give that young penis you can have whatever fanfiction about older women in your head that you want. You are very mature for your age btw
someone please give me the energy to go to the grocery storeI have a massive to-do list for this weekend and it all starts thereI feel like if I don't get my grocery shopping done everything is going to fall apart
>>84811836Do something small around your house first and make sure you are all the way shower and dressed. Ride the momentum don't sit back down. If you have one go to the smaller grocery store and keep the list concise
>>84810663>they're fun to be around when they have their own midlife crisis and seek assurance with a guy like me.There's a woman at my job struggling with this, or was. She kept trying to get attention from me but her anxiety and turbulence was way too much to bear. I was so nervous around her that I would just freeze up. I never knew if she was going to flirt or greyrock me. Felt like I was walking through a minefield.Pretty sure she hates me now because I started avoiding her for the sake of my day to day peace. Shame because she has a banging body, absolutely insane ass-hip-waist ratio.She used to wear these ridiculous bodycon dresses, the kind that you can buy on temu in packs of three and wear to the club. She'd prance in front of my desk multiple times a day and "drop" her ID badge all the time. I wanted to fucking destroy her pussy until I tried talking to her and I learned why she's single and childless at 40.
im going to community college in september or january... been neeting for 8 years now
Being alone in your 30s is so much better. You have a steady income, your own place, and can get girls way easier than in your 20s.
>>84811948>Be single hope to find a woman once in a while to share intimacy with / have sex with>Get to enjoy the chase, variety, no consistencyor>Have a gf/wife, frequent sex & intimacy (assuming it's a good relationship)>No chase, minimal variety, consistency
>>84811846i did ityippee
>>84805579I've been thinking about this latel because I'm in a similar situation and my conclusion is, why is this a problem?Quoting your post> I still like video games, building PCs, motorcycles, nature and hikingAnd I'm going to remark the "I still like" part. If you like it what's wrong with it?Many times I've felt down about not having a gf/wife, kids, a big house or a great job. I have never made any effort in order to achieve those things, because in reality, I don't want them. Those things, just like everything in life, come with tradeoffs, and I don't think they're for me.I want a comfy life, as free from stress and responsibilites as it can be. I have a job that's just a chore in order to get money, and I'm happy spending my free time reading, writing, playing some video games, working out, going fishing and having a drink now and then.I realized that my pain originated from not meeting a external checklist of what a good life is instead of following my own.If you want those things go for them, if you don't, don't, but be true to yourself.
>>84811866>until I tried talking to her and I learned why she's single and childless at 40.what was the reason?
>>84812141She just has totally unmanageable attachment and personality issues. One day she's crawling all over you, the next day she's acting like you're a creep. She also had a very dark past with addiction and likely other challenges. Her family was very enmeshed, a lot of what she talked about centered around them.So between mood swings, her constant paranoia, and weird relationship with her family it's impossible to get along with her.I've seen a half dozen men battle for her attention and fail since she stopped her seductive tactics towards me. She's just an energy vampire.Thinking about her ass right now though, good fucking lord.
>>84805672>especially the ones who got married and/or had kids.One of my friends, who is really successful at his job and is probably the smartest guy I know lost almost all of his money paying for a mental health hospital for his wife only to end up divorced a year later.The stories he told me about this whole situation made me appreciate my current life a lot more.
>>84806067>the price I have to pay to avoid the unlimited stressThat's how I feel too, I wouldn't be able to relax even for a second in that situation. Wife would probably stress me out and I would also worry about the kid non stop.
>>84806123Extremely based.When I was a kid I thought adulthood was just doing whatever you wanted whenever you wanted, and I still think the same.
Reject women, choosee biblically accurate femboys (and save the aryan race).
I start a new job on Monday that doesn't pay enoughI don't want to do Uber Eats anymore but I'm still gonna have toAll this to just sit alone in my apartment every night
>>84805579i had this thought the other day. where did they all get the memo and how comes i missed it???? im the only childless one in my family and im sure they view me as a weirdo outcast even if they don't say it to my face
>>84812751>>84805881>started getting high to copealso fucking this. straight edge my whole life, then get addicted in my 30s to cope with stress and life.>>84805946>"Oh yeah I have a little one, haha"and the worst thing is that half of the single women now have kids too. its grim if you dont want to stepfather. meanwhile i keep hearing this discourse of women seething about age gaps. where else am i supposed to look for childless women?
Im 33 and I realised I don't have a life. I don't even have anything meaningful to post on here
>>84812581biblically accurate femboys have as much if not more daddy issues than foids. They don't want a failure in his 30s
>>84805562I'm turning 27, horribly autistic and have zero dating experience. I have 3 years left. Is it already too late?
>>848128293 years until what?
>>84812892you're already there, 30 is when women get desperate>>84812795you didn't realize this at 18?
28 yo financing my life through part time work and being a full time college student. I got lucky a university felt bad for me and they're essentially paying me to complete my degree. Also debt ain't so bad. 5k upfront today for only $200 a month is nice. College is way more affordable than I thought it would be. Everyone around me growing up made it seem like college was a mortgage when it's more like a car loan. My wife did divorce me a few years ago. But she was a bad wife so no one owes anyone anything. I guess that's good but my life is pretty awful and stressful.
>>84812922>28 y/o divorceeGet the fuck out of my threadGet the fuck off of my boardFucking normalfagFuck you
>>84812892till 30
>>84810517I keep myself busy doing things I enjoy. I cannot focus on more than one thing at once, so let's say that I'm doing something that is either phisically or intellectually taxing, like reading, drawing, writing or working out. I cannot feel bad while doing this.
I went to see a one bedroom apartment today. It was real nice, but there is a busy road over an overpass nearby and I found the sound of the fast-moving cars uncomfortable, it put me on edge a little. Shame.
>>84811206>How old are you?37>What do you spend your time doing (besides working if you do work)? Do you actually enjoy it?Shitpost, a lot of reading, drinkink, video games from time to time, tv shows and movies, music, going for a walk, fishing, working out>Do you have any health problems?Except from some mild pain in my arm from time to time due to an old injury, no.>Do you wish you would die in your sleep? Yes or no?No. Even if I don't really love my life I'm terrified of death.
>>84811836Make a stop at the liquor store to make the trip worth it.
>>8481120633Hiking and gymSomatic or psychological? Doctor lady diagnosed me with autism and bpd. Dunno if I agree with either.Yes every night. Im working on making it happen (while awake).
>>84813096What if you simply do not enjoy things? I know its pathetic from my part.
>>84805562I am 27 and have never been employed. Can't go back to university because I already spent 2 years of funds. I have a crippling fear of being trapped and of failing, beause my mom pushed me excessively hard through school whilst offering no actual support, and would scold me when I failed to instantly do something right the first time. And she played the good cop to my step dad bad cop who was actual movie tier evil. My way of rebelling from the prison was to fail in school (not such a good idea looking back), and my nerves have been fried ever since. As a result of my upbringing I'm an extremely emotionally reserved pushover, so I'm destined to be a loser, because you need to be a go getter extravert to make anything of yourself from my position.
>>84812922how did you get that arrangement? i want to go back to college but already blew 2 out of my 4 years of funding so wont be able to afford it.
>>84812133I also feel this waySometimes I get lonely without other people around, but generally speaking I would rather be comfortable by myself than spend massive amounts of time, effort, and resources to humiliate myself over and over in social situations until I get "lucky" and find a partner below my standards who I'd have to settle for due to lack of options. I don't understand why people put themselves through all of that when the reward for any male outside the top 20-30% in attractiveness is not commensurate with the risk and effort
>>84811206>How old are you?39>What do you spend your time doing (besides working if you do work)? Do you actually enjoy it?3D modeling (do it on and off work), practicing japanese (slacked for a few years gotta pass that N2), hitting the gym (swimming and lifting), networking at local events, >Do you have any health problems?not persay, I did have my first asthma attack in 30 years because I accidently left paper towels under the sink two years ago, but aside from that I am fine.>Do you wish you would die in your sleep? Yes or no?no
34 and i just spent ten minutes pedaling real hard on the exercise bike and now my penis works again. it's that shrimple.
>>84813226It's not pathetic and I've thought about this many times. Sometimes I thought I didn't and I used those activities as pure escapism, and while there may be some truth to that, I still enjoy them to some degree. The core list of my hobbies has been stable for over a decade, and I've tried some other stuff that didn't stick. If I didn't actually enjoy these things I'd do anything, probably stuff that required less effort.
36 here, I've been texting with a super hot 20-something year old escort for the past hour. We're gonna meet in a couple days and I'm literally vibrating with excitement, but I've also been mindlessly drinking a shitload of coffee. Haven't had pussy in 2 years.
>>8481120630I lay in bed and sulk. I don't enjoy itNot that I know ofYes
>>84805562i'm almost 30, it's not better when all your friends are struggling just as much or worse, it makes you feel like you were all doomed from the start and shouldn't have been born.
Is what it is. I'm on the tail end of getting over a relationship that ended 11 years ago. I was said for longer than I was with her. Being alone now is just the standard state. Too much experience with women to trust them, and got too old and didn't care for myself, so can't start over. Obviously no great social or financial attraction for women to latch onto, so the probability of starting a new relationship is low. Years are rocketing by now, but I still habe at least 30 left. It's going to be a long trip.
Anons just try not to take life too seriously.Get a hobby that involves being in nature. It won't fix your life but fishing has always improved my mood.Also I'm gonna drop some documentary kino recomendation. It's free on youtube.
>>84813544That's skill issue from my part.
>>84812897I had things going for me, this is me >>84811811, but I fucked it all up. In retrospect, I probably still wouldn't have fit into normie world and would have found inventive way to capitulate. I dont even belong among the losers so here I am, a man alone
>>84812961Woops. Typo. I'm 38>>84813251If you're not a dependent you get full access to Fafsa. Then there other things like being poor, divorced, old etc that work in my favor for uni dei points. I also work my ass off to stay on top of being organized.
>be 37 year old asian manlet(5'3)>very attractive white blonde 21 year old (5'7) actually interested me(she's mentally ill) and loves me and wants to marry me and wants to have 10 kids>hesitate because I don't want to have kids because shitty genes, I don't want my kids to hate me because again shitty genes. >also very lonely and want someone to spend life withFor my fellow actual manlets in here(not larpers like 5'7 and shit), do you hate your parents knowing he could have prevented manletness?
>>84811206>How old are you?40>What do you spend your time doing (besides working if you do work)? Do you actually enjoy it?Gardening. It is not about 'joy'. It is to keep me busy so that i dont have to think. Gardening also forces me to move my body regulary. Since i'm sitting most of the day at work, gardening helps me to stay fit. I have to admit that i lack the motivation to go to a gym. People there are also annoying.. >Do you have any health problems?I twistet my foot earlier today. I probably wont be able to move it the next few days.>Do you wish you would die in your sleep? Yes or no?No. At least not at my current age.I dont know what to do with my life. I have a job and a house, but nobody to share my life with. Life is kinda gray and boring.
>>84814022do it, faggot. I'm not a manlet but I did just get rejected for being under 6', but you've just won the lottery.besides, her shitty mentally ill genes might be worse than your short genes, you never know
>>84805562Everyone else I know in their 30s is married with kids or is in a long-term relationship, except for me. Even the ugly awkward nerds. What the hell is wrong with me?
>>84814228>What the hell is wrong with me?are you virgin?
>>84814283>are you virgin?Yes
>>84810517It's much easier to deal with loneliness in your thirties, I'd say. For one thing, your sex drive slows down. You're not the walking boner you were in your teens and twenties, so there's not as much of a desperation for female intimacy. You also to start to get set in your ways in your thirties. When you've been a bachelor that long and gotten used to all the freedom and independence that comes with it, you get to a place where you're not sure if you even want all of the headaches of a relationship anymore.This is not to say you can't still feel loneliness as a single man in your thirties. Of course you can and inevitably will at times, but I think it's much easier to manage and move past those pangs more easily than when you were a younger man.
>>84814520If anything, I feel much more horny right now (in my 30s) than I've been in my 20s
>>84814588Interesting, but you may just a very robust libido. For most men, sex drive declines with age.
>sat alone with your video games in a rented apartment alone with no friends, no gf and no kids.At some point in the last couple of years I came to accept how retarded I am. Names, faces, people, I cant remember any of them. I just took it completely for granted and basically ignored it my whole life. The few times my father actually talked to me about his past and stuff I would be amazed at how he could remember so many inane people, names, facts. Thats the standard? In and out, I dont know you in a month. That DREAD of squirming around names and people has defined my life.>30+ feelsI dont know, I feel kinda shit because I dont really know people like that. Other than some family members its all past me?
>>84805579Lmao wtf motorcycles and going outside is plenty mature you're just an ugly retard
>>84811206>Do you wish you would die in your sleep? Yes or noIt would be based if dying in my sleep caused my corpse to spontaneously combust and burn shit down
What's it called when you assume an ugly mild mannered freak is an incel like you but then it turns out they have a decent to hot gf? When it happened at my last job I cried on the way home. It is not a white pill but a "I'm truly subhuman" black pill.
>>84814520No, it's easier in your youth actually. When you're 30 you're really fucking bored by everything and want to die because all you want is a foid.
>>84814962I'm horrible with names and faces too. People recognize me but I don't them which is anxiety inducing
>>84815125You just have a poor disposition. People don't want to be around the guy that talks in a monotone voice and only talks about how bad things are now
>>84814628Yeah that age is like 60. You're not supposed to be like that in your 30s
>>84814520>For one thing, your sex drive slows downI've gone from 11/10 to 9/10
>virgin in my 30sso fucking over
Do you guys have advice on how to move on from a crush?
>>84817230Find another woman
>>84805562Try 40+ after you thought you'd be married to your fit zoomer waifu after 6 years and she dumps you into a dating apocalypse. Women my age are completely bereft of charm and warmth -- every time I land a date with one it's joyless. Even by 30 they are blown out, dried out, and jaded. The few times I've landed 18yos have been shortlived larks that they end up terminating. I've give my soul to have one of those 18yos love me.
>>84816855Nah, your 30s are your best shot and landing prime puss if you have your shit together. If you have your hair, teeth, a decent BMI, your own place, and spam yourself on apps you will be surprised at what you get. It will never get better, though. Do not waste these years. 40s are true Demon's Souls starts here shit.
>>84817381>your own placeSo fucking over
>>84817381>if you have your shit together.*checks notes* ahh, of course, how did I not notice that my unemployment of several years was limiting my dating efforts? Sill me, I thought girls liked depressed broke bums with a full head of hair.
>>84817605If you have your own place (somehow, maybe your parents are doting enough to get you one or you might have an inheritance) you could get away with being a bum if you're handsome. Hell could just make up a job. If you really get serious with her and it becomes sus, "ah geeeez I was just fired." It's very key to have a private place to feel her up in without parents or roomies fucking up the vibe.
>>84814588Same, though I'm a khv. I masturbate about 3-4 times a day now vs 1-2 times in my teens and 20s.
>>84817634>Hell could just make up a jobProbably only works on 18 year olds who are too ignorant to put the pieces together
>>84817634I don't anymore. And I'm taking care of them rather than the other way around.And that other anon is right, that line would only work on someone ignorant. Not that I'm opposed to using it. If it wasn't to the private place issue
>>84817676>18yos The best women you can legally get by far.
>>84811206>How old are you?32.>What do you spend your time doing (besides working if you do work)? Do you actually enjoy it?Doomscrolling, working out, and playing video games. I only leave the house for work and the gym. I don't really enjoy doing anything, but working out keeps me sane, if nothing else.>Do you have any health problems?I have asthma, but that hasn't been a problem since I was 13. Besides that, no.>Do you wish you would die in your sleep? Yes or no?Sometimes, yes.
>>84817795>The best women you can legally get by far.Naturally someone on /r9k/ knows anything about women
Has anyone else had trouble dating in their 30s? Everyone is taken on facebook. Everyone expects you to have a job now. I could getaway with my looks in my 20s with being jobless. Now its fucking impossible :( The girl that takes care of me is 23 to my 33. I told her my age and she gets all smiley nervous when I look at her. I shouldn't have told her my age :////
>>84818252why is there a girl taking care of you?
>>84818285Just got in a wheelchair at the beginning of 26. The other day I was in the elevator mentioning how depressed I've been and how its hard to get up out of bed. She replies "because Im not there." I couldn't fucking believe it so I said "what?" And she replied "nothing" My hearing is shit too, if Ihad heard her the first time I would have been allllll over it. Like godfucking dammit just be a teeny bit more confident. Her brother and sister work here; its hard to get her alone. Her brother is like 18, its fucking awkward lol
>>84818328damn, are you wheelchair bound forever? It's gonna be hard to find someone unless they have a fetish for taking care of people.
>>84818348Yeah but Im also disabled, so Im used to waiting a while for women to come my way. I cant fuck in missionary anymore :/ From 18 to now I've had about 15 to 20 but they only last for so long and there's a lonnnnngg time between them. Dating in a wheelchair is fucking impossible. Shes told me Im cute, im like fuck yes. But shes staff here so if she can tell me she wants me in bed essentially in an elevator full of people that must be her being young. I try to play it slow and polite because Im terrified of coming off as a perv. Its hard to play middle ground without making her think im m not interested. I look at her constantly, I do t think ahe cares too much. But if she sees my age she could just think Im being nice to her. She scratches my back when I need it though, it feels fucking great haha. The other day she asked me if I needed help taking my pants off and at that point my hormones are raging with confidence and I wanted to tell her to suck me once I was naked in front of her but her sister was right there. The occasion is rare because my depression gets insanely terrible. Im losing sexual interest in women and I usually can't move until noon. Im about to Yolo it on up and ask for her number. Its been a loonnngg 5.5 years since ive gotten laid. Im just gonna tell her my mental age is around 25 to 27 anyway. I've never seen anyone so aggressive with the bed comment. Caught me way off guard. Again its hard to find middle ground between too passive and too aggressive.
>>84818433>I've never seen anyone so aggressive with the bed commen>it's hard to get up out of bed>because I'm not therethat sounds normal? like she's taking care of you so obviously it'll be easier for you to get out of bed if she was there to get you out of bed. How is that a yes I want to fuck you
i'm 35 and live with my mom, never had a job, no friends or family nearby apart from my old mom and dad.basically my life is i played video games until 25, used it to try to disappear and avoid reality, at 25 i realized this is not gonna work forever and got depressed and my choices are get a shitty job or try something.so i decided to try making my own games, but i have a very obsessive autistic mind, so i got completely obsessed with it and 10 years flew by in an instant. I've sat for 10 years in the same chair, 12+ hours a day, obsessed with game dev and programming.Honestly i'm chocked at how fast those 10 years disappeared, in my mind i'm still 25.
>>84818468>10 years in the same chair, 12+ hours a day, obsessed with game dev and programming.....Are you at least ok at programming?
>>84818457It was supposed to be "because im not there?" But 4chan wont I let me reply to my own post for some reason. Forgot the question mark. The context of the conversation wasn't from like what she does as a job. Come to think I. Summary it was "Im really depressed" and her replying "because im not there with you" she showers me tomorrow, im about to go all in fuck it. I cant remember exactly it was 3 or 4 days ago
>>84805562I just turned 31. Every year goes by faster and faster. It feels like a joke how fast last year went and this year as well.I spent my 20s in and out of one shit job after another. Moved countries. Lived in vans. Lived in Backpackers. Never made more than minimum wage except technically in Japan. I had 3 long term relationships that failed. One autistic girl. One pretty ugly japanese girl. One alcoholic artistic girl who smoked a lot. I'm still working for near minimum wage in a dead end job. I have a degree. I apply but hear nothing back. I can't land an interview. I'm still in 25k of student debt, I haven't been able to move it and now interest keeps piling on top.I have a 3 year relationship but my gf keeps getting fatter and never wants to fuck anymore. It's a constant monthly cycle with a few good days mixed in with constant moodiness. She has adhd, takes meds and spends all of her time and energy working full time. I'd say I've never felt so alone but I've realised life will never be what I wanted it to be. The best I can manage is just continuing to work full time, save all I can and keep stacking my money so that maybe just maybe one day I can retire into some kind of communal trailer park or get lucky on a stock.People will roast me for having a gf but my life revolves around her and her daily needs. It's emotionally exhausting to be around her and it stresses me the f out most of the time. We don't even fuck for weeks at a time and when we do it isn't even good. Idk why God has cursed me to live this life but I believe and take responsibility that it is all my fault and my failures as a man. I also have autism and wouldn't wish this curse upon anyone. Nothing could be more important than social success other than general cognition and physical ablility
>>84818498i would assume so, but i don't really have anyone to compare to, kinda hard to know your level of proficiency at programming if you're not doing it as a job
>>84818560Those girls made your life worse. You should have taken the virginity pill. Enlightened jap losers are light-years ahead of you
>>84818109It's a 30+ thread. Yeah. We're not all fucking incels anymore.
>>84818468Did you make any games?
>>84818611Those of us that aren't normalfags are
>>84817381>teethIt's over
>>84805562I barely ascended just before 25. Went from being completely behind my peers to now being slightly above average. And things have been changing for me. I'm still have all the same problems, but they're not so big now. At 29, and I'll be getting into a teeny, tiny house soon. I never thought 5 years that I'd ever take that first step of the American Dream. It's like even if I fail now, at least I got further than I thought.
>>84818612yes one, then i got stuck in a loop of making systems for 6 years and abandoning projects, now i've been working on one for a year consistently
>>84818611It's a 30+ thread on reject centralThere's a bunch of social media platforms for normalfaggots and this isn't one of them
>>84818252I had a mutual female friend and coworker gently mention my name to another girl we work with I've considered someone I may take a chance and ask out at some point. The question was proposed to me if I would be interested in her randomly one day. I said well yeah I would be lying if I didn't consider it already so she agreed to present the same question to the girl for me. Was told that I'm amazing but she doesn't know. Female friend says I should see what happens in the future because you never know and things can change. I don't know why this is bothering me so much. I'd consider my self a 6.5-7 if I'm being honest and this girl is my looks match. It's not like I shot for the moon here for a 10/10. When this unfolded in early May I could tell there was some tension between us probably due to this, but it opened up again and we seem to be back to our original rapport of friendly and playful. I don't think that this girl even knew that I was asked this question by my female friend as well because that was part of the agreement and I would trust her to this. I guess it's possible that she was as worried as me and there is an avenue. Of course I find out through the grape vine that some random loser went out "platonically" with her at some point last week. So of course I don't even know why I feel bad about this because I've been beat up so much dating for ever yet I feel even worse despite it getting better between us. Yeah everything is trouble with dating because we have women our age and our looksmatch who aren't accepting reality yet in numbers unseen before. Praying for a correction in the game here.
It was definitely worse when I was in my late teens and early twenties. At some point you stop giving a shit.
>>84806611Like you, except 38, never had a job and can't find one, still living with mom. Have shitty degree and no hobbies. I don't see myself achiving anything. Not suicidal, just jaded but I try to do something useful every day no matter how small and meaningless it is anyway.Oh yeah, and I live in the Balkans. Fuck my life.
>>84805562>Everyone you used to know has a girlfriend,Nope, not really. >mortgageNot something to envy. Mortgagefags are wageslaves. I live with my parents and stack money for investments. Literally no financial stress at all and can quit my job whenever I want. >kidsExpensive and annoying as shit. >getting marriedGetting divorce raped, dead bedrooms, nagging wives, wives who get fat, wives who cheat on you with Chad work hubby. Marriage is a scam meant to trap men into being obedient slaves to their jobs and to their past-prime foids. >you're just sat alone with your video games in a rented apartment alone with no friends, no gf and no kids.Live with my nice parents, no rent, split bills, have my own room, home-cooked food from mom. Self-bulilt gaming PC with a 5800X3D and an RX9070XT. Play vidya with 2 online friends, while having 2 IRL friends to go drinking with sometimes. No nagging wife, no expensive gf, no worries about being cheated on or used as an ATM, the peace of not having kids.Man-child life FTW.
the isolation tastes like isolation, idk what you want me to tell youthread created successfully
>>84817381>If you have your hairYep, I'm out.
>>84818965So I have this clear, a mutual female friend asked a female coworker if she'd go out with you and you did nothing no moves, no suggestion for coffee etc?
I ate Mc Donalds for the first time in 8 years. A big mac with fries, a filet o fish and a diet coke.Holy shit! my stomach fucking hurts wtf. I'm all bloated, I'm coughing up oily slime and I've been constipated for like an hour now. How was a I able to eat this every day when I was younger? Have they changed the recipe or something or is this just how it feels to be old?
>>84818560If you aren't married and don't have a kid or a mortgage together, what's stopping you from dumping her?
>>84819593Fast food is actual garbage. 10 years ago it was better and way cheaper.
>>84807222Mostly just doing my best not to internalise all the 4chan talks of no-more-eggs etc. Sucks knowing that I'll probably never find anyone who'll genuinely love and understand my despite all my baggage while also being someone who I can respect (stable job, good hygiene, can live independently, can take accountability for bad things that happened rather than blaming circumstance/parents/whatever). But the way I see it, it's more important for a kid to have a loving family where both parents CHOSE each other rather than settled for each other out of some desperate biological need.
>>84819593>I ate Mc Donalds for the first time in 8 yearsI quit eating any fast food at 20, but I never ate a lot of it in general, and I am 35, and the same goes with junk food that normal people or fat people (most of the time) in the USA buy at the store (candy, cookies, chips, pretzels, ice cream, other high sugar stuff, etc). All I eat is chicken, eggs, cucumbers, olive oil, pears, prunes, sardines, rice, almonds, sunflower kernels, coconut, rolled oats, herring, and mackerel. The worst thing I eat is a plain bagel, sometimes ramen, dark chocolate (they say it's fine in moderation, but I don't think so), and consume caffeine (green tea, coffee, plus the dark chocolate would count as well). I drink a ton of water and occasionally sparkling water as well (no additives).>Fast foodEven though I never eat this the thing I can't believe are the prices compared to when I was a little kid or even back when I was a teenager. That shit is wild and people still spend shit loads of money on it like crazy, then tell me how they have no money irl, but prices massively increasing can be said about anything really.
>>84805562You'll more or less cope by the time you're 40, trust me.
>>84818560I understand some people cannot handle being alone, which is why they do what you're doing or they're chained to it by a kid or marriage, but I would 100% rope if I had to deal with that misery. I am so glad I made the choices that I did in life when I read things like this or worse. I hope you somehow get stuff sorted anon.>People will roast me for having a gf/r9k/ was different very long ago and I am from those times (been using 4chan since 2005), so I don't care. I used to come here for the greentext stories back then, which are never a thing now. I am just amazed you continue to deal with what you're dealing with if nothing is tying you down to it all.
>>84819821>can take accountability for bad thingsHave you done the same for your own baggage? Not trying to be cute or a "lol checkmate foid" moment. You've gotta be ok with yourself before getting into a genuine relationship, no matter your gender.>t. someone who is not ok with himself and crashes every relationship
Real estate prices in my area are depressing me a lot. Years ago I passed on small houses that cost like 60-80k, and now those are like 130k, and the ones I'd really like, bigger, with a terrace, lift, are +200k.I have 150k but I don't want to blow all my savings in a house. Sometimes I feel like moving to a trailer park or caravan area, spending like 10k on a modest setup, invest the rest of the money and live off the interest, which should be around 8-10k a year with minimal expenses.I would also like to quit my web dev job and do something part time if anything. I'm tired about this performative company bullshit and the recent AI psychosis.
>>84820168>Have you done the same for your own baggage?Of course, which is why I guess I get the ick from the men here who gripe and groan about how the world wronged them. I really empathise with all the guys who have baggage they want to talk about, but when talking about something traumatic turn into apportioning blame/making excuses rather than accepting what happened has happened and working out how to move forward, I lose respect for them. I have a lot of respect for men who genuinely engage with therapy to work through whatever is making them unhappy.I don't blame anyone else for the decisions I made or bad things that happened to me, I learnt from them and I do my best to prevent them from negatively influencing my present behaviour. I want someone who has the same mindset.
>>84820498Therapy is a meme and if you need a shrink to tell you what your problems are you are retarded, and there's no cure for that.
>>84817381> Nah, your 30s are your best shot and landing prime puss if you have your shit together. If you have your hair, teeth, a decent BMI, your own place, and spam yourself on apps you will be surprised at what you get. It will never get better, though. Do not waste these years. 40s are true Demon's Souls starts here shit.I will see, I have just ended a relationship with a same-aged girl I have been dating for 6 years.t. 32, 33 soon
>>84820542Why did you end the relationship?
>>84820553She wanted to move to Australia and I told her I wont do it. She asked me if that was my last word and I told her yes. Then she got mad and thats that. Dont want to live in Australia, simple as. She also has become really fat in the last 2 years which made it way easier for me. Also since she has gotten a better job I found her increasingly annoying. All in all I am glad to have gotten rid of her. She has done the whole "you will never find someone as good as me" but honestly, dont care even if it would be true. She was a huge nuisance through and through, imho the thing that bothered her most is how there wasnt much resistance of me to end it.
>>84818663When I said make I meant finish and release
>>84809261No, I'm the same at similar age. Sometimes we change, sometimes things get in the way and those obstacles disappear
>>84805562If you haven't stopped giving a fuck what people think and managed to escape retard-hormone-brain by the time you are 30 then you are beyond help.
>>84820812I am on the market again, lets see what happens for us. This is my background >>84820587
>>84820587>Dont want to live in Australia, simple as.As a straya, you are correct
>>84821007She is a medical doctor and thinks the salaries are much higher than in Germany. I told her if its about money I would go to Switzerland or Austria but thats my last word.
>>84805562>he can afford to rent an apartment aloneI wish.
>>84805946dont know why you bother pretending? I just tell people Im alone because Im trash and it fucking blows. no one gives a fuck because Im just here to do a job. if you want to small talk with me, Im not going to put on a mask and pretend im normie scum.
>>84821011I can guarantee you that she will have a miserable time and lie awake thinking about how big a mistake she made throwing away a relationship to be HERE
the cure for all existentialist woes. my only problem in life is "do I have enough drugs to last until I can get more drugs". I would trade it for a real life with a real job and a house and a family, but guess what that shit is never happening.
>>84821047Most likely, I plan on dating a younger woman now
I just wanna turn back time
At this point I just need to figure a way to stop working 40h a week.I don't want a big house, a expensive car, a wife or kids neither I have expensive hobbies. Why should I be a waggie?
>>84805562I'm in this weird limbo where I'm living at home, making tons of money and saving it all. Going to the gym, hanging out with my male friends often. But women and housing are entirely out of reach. Both markets have inflated out of control to the point of it being a joke. It's so crazy, because I did everything right, make great money, and it still is not enough. My life still looks identical to that of a stoner loser. Makes zero sense.In two years, I'll have enough money to buy a condo in cash, or a nice down payment on a home. Maybe once I do that, things will get better. In the meantime, I just save & invest my money, and focus on my health at the gym.
>>84820498That's good. Like I said, I wasn't accusing, its just sometimes when people want that in a partner, they unfortunately don't think to work on themselves first.Like I know I'm a mess rn, I know It'd be tough to be in a relationship with me, so I'm working on self improvement first
>>84818965>I've been beat up so much dating for ever yet I feel even worseI can relate to this. In order to keep ourselves going, we have to be optimistic. This is a good thing, but it involves visualizing what a win might look like. "Hey, maybe this girl will like me back, and it all works out!" This is healthy, but at the same time it stings when it doesn't happen. Very tough to manage. Wish I could do something to help, man. I'm also praying for a correction while trying to self-improve as much as possible.
I wonder what life would be like if I wasn't a wizard
>>84821593Read about most of the anon's interactions with women itt and take a wild guess.
>>84805946why do you explain other people about your life?, who are they to get such info from you, just say nothing kek
>>84819821what kind of baggage are we talking about?
>>84821796when a woman talks about baggage, it ALWAYS means "I was a whore"
>>84821808I dont think being a whore stop them from getting in relationship. Most dudes are lonely af and happy to find a girl who'll reciprocate some crumbs of loving feeling back. She's single mom or some extreme ailment or simply wants chad despite being 35+ competing with the 18-20s.
>>84821973most dudes will FUCK a whore, not marry them
>>84821985but all girls are whores
>>84811206>29>I'm basically retired. One of my parents became disabled a few years ago and the other has been long term unemployed so I just take care of them now. I read/watch/play in my own time, then I'll cook/do chores/do paperwork and occasionally go on trips with them. I'd be lying if I believed it was the best life I could have, but I can imagine far worse so I'd say I enjoy it a fair amount.>Physical problems not really. Theoretical mental illnesses, maybe. The signs are pointing there, but I'm hardly dysfunctional so I don't think it'll ever get diagnosed.>No. If I died in my sleep, my parent's qol would drastically drop. Don't tell anyone, but once my parents pass away, I think I'm 99% likely to just donate the rest of my assets and kms.
Will life ever be good again?
>>84805562>and you're just sat alone with your video games in a rented apartment alone with no friends, no gf and no kids.sounds alright so far
>>84819546You can believe me or not but I had a whole narrative in my head about how I was going to just say one day "hey maybe lets go try out X restaurant that is the style of our common ancestory after work I'm kind of hungry" or something like that to see how it goes. I don't think texting or anything try hardy works at all in dating. Not from experience and not from observations unless you're chad. I didn't do anything because this question and proposition from my female friend came out of the blue one day and I was just going to see how she reported back so that I didn't make a bad situation at work. If it matters or you're wondering this female friend is married so that's out of the question. >>84821572I'm honestly the best version of myself ever. I exercise 3-4 times a week, consider myself respected by friends and peers etc. Have to say though one of the things that has changed in recent years with weight loss and exercise is how suddenly people treat you like a human and want to talk to you in public, at work, at the gym and in social situations. It keeps me hopeful but also kind of sucks at the same time that life is like this. What a weird shock it is to have a woman grab your arm or put her arm on the small of your back in a social situation even women who are strictly friends. Fat anons just start walking outside for an hour a day and see where you are in September. >>84821339This is basically the tri-state area in a nutshell. hoe and real estate inflation. Moving away from where you grew up and where the money in your industry is literally not an option.
>>84822483what are you doing towards achieving that
I'm barely interested in anything anymore. I don't know if that's because I might be depressed or if I just stopped being interested in most things naturally.
>>84805562Nothing wrong with a rented apartment. Having a house sounds great, but then shit starts falling apart and it needs constant upkeep. When you're staring down needing a new roof, driveway, etc. you'd wish you were in an apartment.
>>84821992>All girls are whores>All boys are whores>Are we all whores or is this just not true?
>>84823687>>All boys are whoresplenty of 30+ male virgin here, anon.I have yet to see a 30+ female virgin
Just joined the +30 club last weekI have a decent job but I kinda want to come back to the city I lived in 13 years ago. Maybe just a sad cope, a weird way to chase my youthI think I am figuring out the whole socializing stuff but I need more opportunities to meet peopleBeing bald since I'm 21, I can at least say that my looks won't get any worse
>>84805562>Being alone in your 30s is so much worse than your 20s.it's not that bad. I was dating a model for most of my 30s, and once it ended the dating world became retarded. I got used to peace.>Everyone you used to know has a girlfriend, mortgage, kids, getting married etc and you're just sat alone with your video games in a rented apartment alone with no friends, no gf and no kids.Actually most of them don't have kids. It's fucking wild. A lot of them aren't home owners or are women who married a guy who has a house. A good chunk are divorced.I own a home. I play videogames cause it's always been a part of me.I do kinda wish I had a gf and a kid but with the horrible behavior of women now, no thanks.I get told often when I'm walking my bulldog that ladies must be all over me.Sounds gay and lame, but I want something real. I am so tired of dramatic selfish whores.
I'm thinking about just taking the stray cats into our apartment. Is 8 cats a huge deal? I mean, will it kill me? Because I feel like dying if I have to worry about them outside any longer. It's hellish. I have nightmares every night. I've been doing it for 3 years and I'm running out of energy.
>>84811948>your own placeHeh
>>84823724Most incels would be whores if they could. t. 30+ female(female) virgin
>>84814228Same. 4 me its because I make no effort to try and talk to girls and if I do talk to one I dont know how to ask them out. I dont know if im kinda autistic or not. I feel like I have a bit of it but it can't be that much because I can be really fucking good socially. Idk.
>>84817230Delete number and any profiles and contacts with them. Make it impossible for you to easily look them up or contact them. Also ask yourself what your getting from still thinking about them. Does it make you happy even?
poor nigga rich niggayou were bound to get crushed sooner or later
BPD girlfriend turned me off women forever so I suppose I should thank her for snapping me out of my Disney fantasyMale roommate turned me off male friends forever so I suppose theres that too
I wanna have kids, I wanna get pregnant before it's too late. Not sure how to go on about this (would need to meet someone, get married, have 2 kids in a 5-year window). I don't even know if I'm already infertile. I'm so jealous of men, you guys have so much time.
>>84817230find another crush lmao