Clavicular is so fucking awesome, idgaf what anyone says. The only reason why people hate him is because he exposes uncomfortable truths.Sociopathy is the ultimate ascensionpill. Motherfucker literally ran someone over and everyone still loves him.
>>84850876He has said he is miserable on multiple occasions and wishes he never took the path he did.
>>84850882It's social humbling. By lowering yourself you lower everyone else by extension.
>>84850892What does that even mean? Dude said he would rather just be a normal guy and be playing video games and living his autismo life. He didn't achieve happiness, even after all he has gained. I think people should really consider what that means.
>>84850922>What does that even mean?Everyone does this. If I'm in a room full of people, and I'm really good at drawing, and I start trying to act humble like, "oh, I'm not that great at drawing", you are mogging everyone. You are putting them down by extension of yourself.
>>84850930How do you know that is what he meant, versus being honest?
>>84850943It's part of the social game. It's something you don't really understand unless you're on the same detached wavelength as us.
>>84850948No, I do understand that sort of thing. Just hadn't heard it put that way before. I don't think that contextually makes sense, in this case.
>>84850954It's the exact same thing as attractive white girls who complain about being "depressed" or having "anxiety". It's a hollow sentiment, it's not real. It's part of the game.
>>84850964I mean. I guess I can't know for sure, either. I would say the nose job is l indicative of him being miserable still, even after his success, though. But, nonetheless, why would you want to live such a shallow and vapid life? You will never connect to anyone, they will never know the real you, because your lifestyle only attracts dishonest people and users. He's just going to age and keep having body dysmorphia and everyone is going to leave him behind, because there will just be someone younger and hotter to take his place. Imagine knowing that success and handsomeness and losing it. It's like moving from a neighborhood in America to the slums of Africa. You will always remember what you had before.
>>84850998>But, nonetheless, why would you want to live such a shallow and vapid life?The world is shallow, and the things I want are obtained through shallow, shitty means.>You will never connect to anyone, they will never know the real you, because your lifestyle only attracts dishonest people and users. Nobody likes the real me anyway. At least I'd get to be loved if I was hot and rich.The real blackpill - the ultimate and final blackpill - is this: love, by its very nature, is a lie. It's just a neurochemical process animals use to procreate, and it is only reflected by whoever is the strongest and can collect more resources. When you have two deeply flawed people, and they feel obligated to stick together because they can't do any better, that just builds resentment. But when you have two perfect individuals - two rich, perfect, beautiful, hyper-sexual individuals - and they love each other, there is no falter. There is no hesitation or questioning. There's no comparison to other men, because why would there be? She already has everything she wants.Life is a lie. It's a fucking garbage, worthless lie.
>>84850876Kek fag ragebait, the people that hate on him are the same iq of the ones who glaze him, as someone who don't gives a shit about this, its hilarious seeing that they do not realize it and think they are better in some way, they must know more about him than me.
>>84850876I cant stand this fake narcissist but I also am extremely jealous of what he's aquired in life due to his sociopathic behaviour.Its awakened something inside me that made me realize the world is nothing more than an unjust clown show where society champions the absolute worst examples of our species. I now aspire to be like Clavicular, but not out of any kind of respect or worship. I want to be the kind of person who is rewarded for exploiting and running the circus we live in instead of another feeble member of the audience paying to watch it.
>>84851074Think higher become a god instead of a parasite
>>84851038True but love feels amazing and you can't really think your way out of wanting and enjoying it, you'll just be miserableYou have to hold the truth and the fantasy in your mind at the same time, separate compartments
Looking good, clav!
>>84851038>The world is shallow, and the things I want are obtained through shallow, shitty means.Have you considered that maybe you have been conditioned to want those things? Plenty of rich, pretty people, man and women, are depressed and want to die. People who live his lifestyle notoriously end their run in rehab, often times alone, and end up advocating against it in their older years. >Nobody likes the real me anyway. At least I'd get to be loved if I was hot and rich.I can understand the thought process, but I don't think that you're unlovable as you are. I think that it is just hard to find connection in a world where internet, social media, and dating apps have taken over. There are people profiting off your misery daily and they do not care about how humans were intended to interact. >The real blackpill - the ultimate and final blackpill - is this: love, by its very nature, is a lie. It's just a neurochemical process animals use to procreate, and it is only reflected by whoever is the strongest and can collect more resources. Everything about a human is a neurochemical process. That doesn't mean isn't "real." Everything else can be broken down to this level, too, but that doesn't mean it isn't real. This world is all we know. Every sense, emotion, and movement we have is a bunch of processes taking place inside of our body and minds. Is nothing real? Even if "nothing is real," we still have to experience it, and we are capable of observing ourselves experiencing it. It is real to us/our brains/our bodies.
>>84851038>When you have two deeply flawed people, and they feel obligated to stick together because they can't do any better, that just builds resentment. But when you have two perfect individuals - two rich, perfect, beautiful, hyper-sexual individuals - and they love each other, there is no falter. This just isn't the reality of the situation. There is not such thing as a "perfect person." Pretty, seemingly perfect people still don't often find love. They find lust.>There is no hesitation or questioning. There's no comparison to other men, because why would there be? She already has everything she wants.Rich, pretty people cheat on each other even when they're with rich, pretty people. >Life is a lie. It's a fucking garbage, worthless lie.What about life is a lie? The Disney-fied version of reality that we were taught? Yeah, it was. Is it hard to stomach that most people with power are vapid, shallow sociopaths? Yes, it is. But that isn't all there is to reality. And the blackpill isn't the only antidote. You can choose to see and exist, as best you can, improving yourself to be best person (not by society's standards, mind you) that you can be. I mean, really just trying to be kind and understanding of others. Looking in the mirror and not picking your appearance apart, but your mind. You can work with yourself to be happier and ignore all the bullshit in the world. External expectations become expectations we have for ourselves - we just have to let it go and try to do things within our control. A lot of self-help shit is ideological garbage, but, at some point, we have to address our pain and understanding why we are the way we are. Not just as a society, but as an individual. We need to process our past grief and try to live beyond what society wants of it, even if we have to play the game some still.
As a fag, I think what he REALLY shows is just how little effort most men put into looksmaxxing. He's literally like a natural 6.8/10, but looksmaxxing boosts him to a 8/10. Most men would genuinely be above average if they just worked out and dressed nice. Like it literally IS that simple. They'd have success on dating apps if they took good photos and had the bare minimum, like a job and not live with their mothers. I've seen some of clavicles stuff and mostly he just seems performative to me, like he's playing the role of the aloof sociopath. I get he's a streamer it's for an act, but it comes off kinda cringe to me. I prefer the aussie guy androgenic, he seems more sincere. Also it's funny how clav got giggamogged by some insanely handsome judge lmfao. Are these guys exposing some "deep truths" about the world? Not really, no. Anyone with half a brain knows looks are important, and EVERY male instinctually knows height and frame are deeply important to attracting females. In fact I bet that serial killer is getting schlicked to today based on his height+frame alone. But if you're not braindead you already know looks are important, so??? And if you're not also braindead you also know it's not everything, nor is it even the most important thing. Look at all the weird random bulkshit "attractive" men women salivate over. Random scrawny celebrities, weird looking fuckers lol. Lmao.
Women choose 'successful' sociopaths instead of 'average' empaths. Men who see materialism as an illusion and thus don't chase after it are ruled out because they're not 'ambitious'. Women, not all of them, but a non-zero amount literally choose to fuck (and thus reward) sociopathic men. "It is not that deep""You're overthinking things"
>>84851322Men do the same with BPDemons. It is literally just how people are. It is not a gendered issue. You just have more empathy for men, because you are one.
>>84851339I see this same response over and over and you're wrong. Each and every time you are wrong. A sociopath is rewarded for his actions by getting women who will fuck him and give him children. A guy who fucks a BPD woman just gets chaos and pain. She will cheat on him, beat him, threaten him, use him, and ruin his life. She will divorce him if she was ever married to him. You're wrong and you will always be wrong about this insipid point you continuously make.
>>84850876I like him as a social experiment because he debunked the bluepill in real life settings. He unintentially used the scientific method to reproduce the same results over and over again. The data doesn't lie, his results don't lie. The guy is a spergy, cringy borderline psychopath and he still gets positive female attention, where other nicer and more accomplished guys would get an "ew" response because their aesthetics aren't up to par.In other words, all he needs now is a personality and a career and he can choose himself a pretty, good-natured girl to do the journey of life with. Wheras guys with a better personality and education than him are having no luck dating because they just don't look right.We debunked the bluepill over 11 years ago. Girls gossiping on social media en masse debunked it even more but the bluepillers insisted they were right. But now this guy's shenanigans drove the final nail in the coffin so goddamned hard, the media people were interviewing him to make him look bad and the bluepillers only cope anymore is "well he says he's not happy". What they won't say is that he can't land a cute good natured girl if he tried to right now.Fuck bluepillers. Anybody who lies like they do should be exposed and discarded. We can't make progress while people are blocking the important facts of the matter because it frustrates them.
>>84851363>A sociopath is rewarded for his actions by getting women who will fuck him and give him children. >A guy who fucks a BPD woman just gets chaos and pain. She will cheat on him, beat him, threaten him, use him, and ruin his life. She will divorce him if she was ever married to him.Men do all of these things that you've said about women, too. Isn't that not what a sociopath does? How are you not rewarding a BPDemon by fucking her and giving her affection, if a woman rewards a sociopath the same way? Men will keep getting back together with BPDemons, even people here, because they DO give them something: sex and so much love and attention when she is not splitting on him.The sociopath gives a woman the same thing. These processes have been studied and the same thing is going on with both men and women, in these situations. I highly recommend reading into abusive dynamics. Again, men and women go through the same thing psychologically.
>>84851302>There is not such thing as a "perfect person.That's just where you're wrong. The Ubermenschen DOES exist, in theory. It has to. If each individual were to be placed on a spectrum of "things they are good at" and "things they are not good at", then by necessity there has to be a person who is the best at that thing. There has to be a winner.Now, you'd probably say not everyone can be a winner. And that's true. But the point I'm trying to get at is that we can quantify a human being's quality, and only two truly high quality individuals can love each other.
I look down on women for their fucked up desires, but I'd fuck Jodi Arias so hard omfg.
>>84851414It's not the same at all. A sociopath can have a harem. A literal flock of female followers who a perma-stunlocked in devotion to him. You're hard-locked into this 'equality' bullshit. It is false. It's not my problem though as the world will continue to get so much worse and so much more competitive and you'll find the sociopaths will continue to come out on top and they will have endless options of women who will be devoted. But what exactly are you trying to say? Because right now you're just leaning on what I have written but you haven't made any cogent stand-alone positions, you've not stated your claims, so go ahead and do that. Be clear. I'm not so interested in arguing with your type anymore because most of you make zero claims and you just endlessly revolve around attempts to bring people back to some disgusting median.
>>84851437>The Ubermenschen DOES exist, in theory. It has to. If each individual were to be placed on a spectrum of "things they are good at" and "things they are not good at", then by necessity there has to be a person who is the best at that thing. There has to be a winner.According to Nietzsche, himself, the Ubermensch isn't "the person who wins at every category" or some statistically optimal human who tops every chart. Nietzsche wasn't doing a talent-analysis. The Ubermensch is someone who creates their own values after the "death of God," after recognizing that traditional moral/religious frameworks have lost their grounding, rather than living by inherited herd morality. It's about self-overcoming and value-creation, not aggregate competence. A person could be mediocre at most measurable skills and still embody what Nietzsche was gesturing at, or be the most accomplished person alive and have nothing to do with it.>Now, you'd probably say not everyone can be a winner. And that's true. But the point I'm trying to get at is that we can quantify a human being's quality, and only two truly high quality individuals can love each other."High quality" in society is only based on looks and ability to socially manipulate. It has nothing to do with how good of a person or partner you are. Lust is not love.
>>84851457>It's not the same at all.>A sociopath can have a harem.>A literal flock of female followers who a perma-stunlocked in devotion to him.A beautiful BPDemon can have a flock of orbiters, it doesn't matter how terrible of a person she is. I know that you've seen this. >The world will continue to get so much worse and so much more competitive and you'll find the sociopaths will continue to come out on top and they will have endless options of women who will be devoted.And the women will, too, if they play into what society wants, just like the men do. I do not disagree that sociopaths run the world. I just don't think we should look up to them or be like them. >But what exactly are you trying to say? >Because right now you're just leaning on what I have written but you haven't made any cogent stand-alone positions, you've not stated your claims, so go ahead and do that. Be clear.I am simply responding to you and having a conversation. You don't seem to be replying to my points, though, so I never get to flesh out my ideas. I just get to explore yours. My ideas are spread throughout my messages, if you want to read them and maybe compile some to reply to. >I'm not so interested in arguing with your type anymore because most of you make zero claims and you just endlessly revolve around attempts to bring people back to some disgusting median.I have made many claims. What is unclear about my position?
>>84851557Fair enough. I think we see things in a similar but also different way.
>>84851309Underrated post thanks homoanon
he's gonna troooon in next 2 years, screencap this.
>>84851309>you already know looks are importantThat's not the point.The past decade or longer guys who are objectively unattractive were told that it wasn't their looks that were the issue it was their personality.
>>84851752which actually leads into the issue that homo anon was talking about which is "guys don't put enough effort into making themselves more attractive" yeah because they were told it wasn't an issue with their fucken physical looks. They were told the issue was their personality and they needed to be kind, empathetic, blah blah fucken blah. The majority of people were not telling these guys thjat they needed double jaw surgery with a hair transplant and to get veneers. And then some guys actually started to get that shit done and had the experience of women being more attracted to them.
>>84851768>Guys don't put enough effort into making themselves more attractive, because they were told it wasn't an issue. I can understand why you feel that way about that piece of advice, but please let me offer a different perspective on it. So, growing up, I think that both boys and girls were given that same advice, that personality is more important, but girls were also passed down things like beauty standards, make up, having to care about their looks, etc. For a long time, up until quite recently in human history, personality used to matter a lot more than it used to. The law of initial attraction used to only apply to speed dating, now it applies to about half of all dating. People who use dating apps are forced into being more reliant initial attraction, by design. Men tend to experience initial attraction at higher rates than women, as well. Longer-term studies of how relationships actually form - friendships that become romantic, people who interact repeatedly before any romantic frame is introduced - show attraction emerging symmetrically between genders. There's also the "mere exposure" and familiarity literature suggesting attraction can build over repeated contact regardless of an immediate spark. This used to be the only way it emerged naturally for the entirety of humanity. Everyone is addicted to the internet, so that's where the money flows. The internet allows companies to profit an ungodly amount of money by engaging people's attention via emotional manipulation and manipulating people into buying products. It is such a cashcow and addiction problem that there aren't many spaces for people to go out and meet anymore. The internet is much more profitable. People used to go spend their day on the town, running errands, church, stopping by the bar, playing cards, sports, clubs, standard work that paid well enough to live good, et cetera.
>>84851768Now, we are all inside all day. People are dropping out of society, because there is nothing there for them. This compounds the dating app problem, as there are very few alternatives for these people to look to. Then, we have the issue of the perfect AI partner arising. Partnership is difficult, you have to learn to work through things together. But, when times are hard for you, you can lean on them, and vice versa. It doesn't have to be transactional. There are people who will take advantage, but you have to learn to see them and not give them your vrill. You recharge each others. This is love. There are plenty of people who want to get away from this and are recognizing it. You can reject the solution society has given you and try your best to find another. You just have to be willing to think outside the box and care about yourself enough to make the choices that will benefit your happiness. You have to love yourself enough to do it. Point is, looks only started mattering as much more recently than not. That advice made sense before the internet became what it did, before dating apps took over, and before third spaces disappeared.(Also NTA, forgot that, sorry.)
>>84851966I disagree with you. Looks always mattered. And guys with good looks and big cocks have, historically, lots of women wanting to have sex with them. I'm not a peasant that views women as some angelic creature that only selects for the men who have the most pleasant personalities. That isn't what happens at all. I see reality as it is. Women talk about sex and penises all the time amongst themselves. Guy who are packing a big cock will get attention for it because women talk about it.
>>84851962>>84851966you're correct about a lot of other things though, just saying that so that is clear. have a good one man.
>>84852016>>84852016Looks do matter, but they're not the entire picture, unless it is in a situation like speed dating or dating apps. Also, yes, men do get that privilege, and beautiful women have gotten the same attention from males. Just look at your regular, ol' locker room talk from guys. Look at half the posts on this forum. Women will get a ridiculous amount of attention for having big boobs or a big ass and especially a pretty face. Personality doesn't matter if the physical aspects are there for Stacy. But, because she had no real personality, just like Chad, Stacy still gets dumped or cheated on. They end up being in lust, not love. They spend enough time around each other and attraction decreases due to incompatibilities or relationship issues that they can't solve because they didn't have to grow a brain. This is where personality matters. And look at your ancestors (they probably weren't Chad and Stacy), look at the former birthrate, look at how much society and dating have changed since the internet got as big as it did. Chad and Stacy are never pleasant to be around, for anyone who has had to fight for anything, but can you blame them? They are just people, like you and me. They just so happen to have social privileges and don't have to develop a personality. It is an unfortunate fact about human psychology and very frustrating to contend with - but not impossible to handle or contend with. Other options exist and will maybe even grow, if enough people wake up from the spell they are under.
>>84852016You can find stuff online about movements of people ditching dating apps, etc. I'm sure if this gains momentum, then a lot of the vapid things that dating apps promoted will lower, too. I also don't see women as some angelic creatures, but I think a lot of them have unwittingly been drawn into something that isn't their fault, same as men. You cannot blame people for falling for propaganda and what they see online - the government and ads work via heavily-studied psychological mechanisms (an interesting read desu). They were tricked and the addictive qualities - which constantly covered up by social media companies - of the internet have imparted itself in their brains. It has done it to most people. There are tribal people with iPhones. On top of the problems with dating apps, both men and women are in echo chambers.If all women see is men being misogynistic, and all men see is women being misandrist, then what is going to change? There are infinite screenshots to share from both sides because ragebaiting brings attention for the people who do it and money for social media companies. But the nice things people say about each other, the success stories, the good in the world doesn't get shown to you, because they don't get clicks. Negative emotions are very potent tools for manipulation. I also don't see women as some angelic creatures, but I think a lot of them have unwittingly been drawn into something that isn't their fault, same as men. You cannot blame people for falling for propaganda and what they see online - the government and ads work via heavily-studied psychological mechanisms (an interesting read desu). They were tricked and the addictive qualities - which constantly covered up by social media companies - of the internet have imparted itself in their brains. It has done it to most people. There are tribal people with iPhones. On top of the problems with dating apps, both men and women are in echo chambers.
>>84852016If all women see is men being misogynistic, and all men see is women being misandrist, then what is going to change? There are infinite screenshots to share from both sides because ragebaiting brings attention for the people who do it and money for social media companies. But the nice things people say about each other, the success stories, the good in the world doesn't get shown to you, because they don't get clicks. Negative emotions are very potent tools for manipulation. I do understand that looks matter, though. But they just aren't possible to overcome. I'm done rambling, but I hope you have a good night, man.
>>84852118I fucked up my copy and paste due to the character limit. Sorry for the repeating bit.
>>84850882>wishes he never took the path he did.Where does he say this? I have seen multiple people reacting to him by rewording everything he says and then reacting to this make up shit he never said. Is that you?
>>84852118You are correct about many things. I hope you have a good night too mate, cheers.
>>84850876the only truth he has is that lookism is realthats it thats literally all their is to it, he's honestly so vapid and lacks the game he larps to have
>>84850876The ironic thing about Clav is that he's not famous for being good looking, he's famous for being controversial and saying outrageous taboo things. More people know him as "the meth guy" or "the guy who hits himself with hammers" than as "the handsome guy".
>>84852337>>84852364this is the truth. he revealed basic shit to normies which people here knew anyway. what is the fucking point then?he will never be happy anywayunless he gets into spirituality or some bs like that in which case he will end up even more lost given how retarded he actually is
>>84850876he is a prophet as far as I'm concerned. He told everyone the harsh truth about life.
He looks like a man child, and based on his behavior, he is a man child. LARPing an adult. Fixating on absolutely the wrong things, and somehow "owning" society? Yall are deluded.
>>84850876God this guy is the biggest faggot in the worldActually 2nd biggest, Androgenic tops him
>>84850876>Clavicular is so fucking awesomeI don't give a fuck about this dude. He did nothing relevant to my life other than making people like you make threads about him that occupies the catalog I open in my browser.Einstein is awesome, nigga. Nassim Haramein is awesome.https://youtu.be/KO_T6OOdPqg
>>84852364>The ironic thing about Clav is that he's not famous for being good looking,Nah.If he wasn't good looking he would be just a laughing stock. But good looking unlocks privilege and people are grudgely engage with his actions, they can't simply dismiss guy with such looks.
>>84850876We have the same subhuman Irish faces.
