>>84853540
You can fuck it up and become a vegetable.

>>84853566
Even worse if quantum immortality is real and you just continuously become this more and more vegetableified state. It is better to just be happy and take things day to day I hope you find peace OP

>>84853540
You can live purely out of spite. Basically a big fuck you to whatever is oppressing you.

>>84853540
It's not reversible
Which should be okay since you wouldn't be feeling regret anyways
but it's like you only have this one very temporary thing you know

It hurts the people that love you, like your family. They'll be devastated and spend the rest of their lives blaming themselves or wondering what they could have done to prevent it.

idk i'll think about it

this is it, there is no objective meaning and life has no answers but it's insane that it is even anything. that you can think at all, that we built cathedrals and high speed trains. you need to meditate on how nuts it is anything is anything and experience the best you can in the little time you have anon. if you have nothing to lose and want to die anyway, what's stopping you from hitchhiking? what's stopping you from using any money you have to try something new and different? you might need to live as a bum in mexico for half a year and see what that's like, or spend a week reading a classic novel you always wanted to get around to. then realise you can keep doing things like that until you die naturally. So no there is no "answer" if you're autistic and need hard truth but that also means there's nothing to lose spending this one chance at life doing something insane

>>84853590
That's what I wish they'd do, but I know they wouldn't.
Read Metamorphosis by Kafka and maybe you'll get it.

>>84853590
personally for me, I can't think of anyone who would super devastated besides my parents. Extended family wouldn't be too devastated, i don't even know them, they are like strangers. Friends also have their own lives to live. Not gonna kill myself though

>>84853601
Go to a shithole with no money or read an old book. Got it.

>>84853540
>it's a painful process
>Even after you're dead it's not guaranteed you'll find peace
>You can't spend the remainder of your life proving the people that have been putting you down wrong
>You can no longer experience the joy of being held, doing something by your own hand, and video games

I can't think of more but these are my arguments against it anyways

>>84853540
Everyone is slowly killing themselves except the elites who are trying to live forever as tranny robots. We live to learn and see what the future holds. You do not know for a fact that there is nothing worth living for because you cannot see the future, and the ones that can are demons.

>>84853540
if you die thats it, if you're alive theres still more to be experienced.

also you are too cowardly to kill yourself, it isnt possible for most people

>>84853623
So you don't care that you will ruin the rest of your parents lives? Come on, man. Think about the impact you're having on the world.

That yahweh gave his son for your sins and you're just going to reject it and burn in the lake of fire and you didn't even get a good satanic deal you're just weak.

>>84853675
did you read the last part? just saying only my parents would be devastated.

I tried to kill myself so ill give advice.

Trying/actually killing yourself, and not for some spontenous act, arises from a life not worth living. So when you ask this specific question, wanting a "rational" reason to live - one devoid of emotion (love) and drive (to survive) and desire (to live) - the answer is there are none. This is because a body is a burden (food water shelter time aging sickness death) that must be struggled for. Without being worthwhile it's, at base, a chore. So "rationally" I think you should kill yourself. Or more specifically make a value judgment you're better off dead - what you do with that is up to you. But if you realize you've fallen into a sickness, a spiritual sickness (depression etc) you understand the cure is not a rational argument -> your asking this question is a symptom of this sickness. As in you are an incredibly unwell human being. No animal lethally harms itself. Only a sick animal would do such bizzare frightening behaviour. Why does he do it? It's not because the answer to a philosophical question it's because his life isn't worth living. So the cure is to find a life worth living (hard from the depths of depression I know). And if your answer is no lives are worth living I'd tell you mine is, so you're wrong.

>>84853676
Suicide=Hell isn't in the Bible.

>>84853714
If you have no relationship with Jesus you go to Hell and I think that is perhaps safely assumed with most suicide victims.

>>84853756
You could try to spin that with any sin. Samson and Saul kill themselves in the OT and aren't condemned.

>>84853772
Samson sacrificed himself and Saul was already mortally wounded.

>>84853540
Not that dont boil down to
>you should feel bad for wanting it
>you might miss out on some stuff
>things might be worse after
>think of your family and stuff
All of the points after the first are really just variations of you should feel bad anyway. Idk why this would have any weight on someone who actually wants to end it, presumably theyve entertained these ideas at some point

>>84853805
Saul still kys'd rather than face the incoming hardship and pain. Samson specifically asks God for the ability to kill himself with the Philistines, when he could have prayed for literally anything else. There were virtually infinite other scenarios he could have prayed for that would have resulted in him living through that situation.

If you die your enemies will be happy and you don't want your enemies to be happy. So living out of spite is the best option.

>>84853837
Okay, and what do either of those have in common with an atheist science worshiping edgelord?

>>84853858
Your enemies either don't give a fuck about you or are glad to you living on suffering.

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>>84853540
If you're thinking about ending it - how about taking some evil shit with you on the way out? The needs of the many and all that.

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>>84853540
My enemies (foids and simps) would be happy, I can't let them smile ever again.

>>84853540
to see what happens next, although this world hates me I still find it fascinating, I want to see the course of human civilization and its discoveries about the universe

>>84853540
Don't do it if you have kids, or if you parents actually love you

>>84853874
It's funnier to just leave all the evil people here for the normies to deal with. Is this a fucking comic book? Lmao enjoy.

>>84854051
Don't have kids and my parents called me useless.

>>84854201
no not to commit suicide

>>84854218
*no reason not to commit suicide

no. test. originally.

>>84853566
>>84853578
Use a 12ga shotgun with 1oz slugs, aim for the brainstem. You don't even have to aim carefully with this combo.

>>84853588
how do you know it's temporary?

>>84855284
not everyone has access to guns

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>>84855343
You can build a slamfire shotgun out of some plumbing pipe and a sharpened bolt.

>>84855343
Then you are a slave to the state and your life is not even yours to take. Turn yourself in before this thought crime before it's too late.

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>>84853540
Because the govt is missing out on extracting potential tax revenue from you.

>>84853540
If reincarnation is true, you could come back as a woman

>>84855352
where would i get ammo?
>>84855358
>what you can't easily get guns in your country due to local laws you had no say in? You're a SLAVE

>>84855377
>what you can't easily get guns in your country due to local laws you had no say in? You're a SLAVE
yes that's what I said

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>>84853578
>Kill yourself
>Wake up again one day in reverse

>>84855388
nigger you're an american
you can buy a gun like it's groceries
you can't lecture anyone about getting guns

>>84855398
>slave thinks this is a bad thing
wew lad
those who sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither

>>84855377
>where would i get ammo?
look bro if you're asking such basic questions then maybe you're too incompetent to kill yourself.
do your research or simply buy a tank of nitrogen. figure it out.
everything worthwhile in life takes effort, including death

>>84853540
well if suicide was considered normal life wouldnt be seen as valuable, so stuff like murder and other human suffering wouldnt be taken as seriously because people be like "just kill yourself if u unhappy nga not that big a deal"
also suicide is emotional and not logical

>>84855419
or maybe these things are not available to me because i don't live in America?
>>84855407
okay? And how was it my choice to be born here? Are you retarded?

>>84855430
>or maybe these things are not available to me because i don't live in America?
nitrogen is available anywhere in the world at any welding supply store

>>84855430
>if I was born into slavery it means I'm not a slave
I think you might be the retarded one anon

>>84855438
nitrogen tanks are not pure enough though

>>84855443
that's not what i said at all though
i asked how was it my choice? it clearly wasn't

>>84855454
no you didn't not that I give a shit this conversation is boring and you're retarded turn yourself into the authorities bye

>>84853540
First one the uncertainty principle, you can't know the future and it cost nothing to stay alive for the one chance in a million.
Second happiness and sadness is not the same thing stop putting them on a scale, I'll go through hell if it mean I can have one little Tendies at the end.
Third Even a shitty life is worth living. It's still better than nothing.

>>84855459
you are wrong and i am right
cope and seethe

It probably hurts really really bad for a millisecond

>>84855462
>Third Even a shitty life is worth living.
how?

>>84853590

You are the biggest failure evolution has to offer. A cruel joke billions of years in the making. An aberration so offensive to women they cause your suffering every chance they get. A malformed, mentally retarded, socially inept organism incapable of the most basic tasks required to survive. Why were you even born? Society has deemed you incredibly unworthy of reproduction and yet is adamant in stopping you from committing suicide.

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For me personally? There are no downsides I can handle the pain. I can do it

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>>84853540

Where exactly did this idea that suicide is a sin come from? Capitalists made it up because their slaves were killing themselves. So they started telling their slaves they would go to Hell if they did it. And guess what it worked.

>>84853540
Upsetting family i guess. that's it. I was kinda hoping i'd just die in my sleep.

>>84855490
You can handle the pain of life?

>>84855475
Because it's that or nothing. Make your choice.
I made one, I'll rather fight to the end rather than giving up.

>>84855500
No I meant I can handle the pain of stabbing myself on the neck and chocking on my own blood

>>84853540
Only personal ones, which is why i don't have any for others.

>>84855426
>well if suicide was considered normal life wouldnt be seen as valuable
life already isn't valuable, so suicide should be considered normal.
anything else is pure delusion

>>84855444
nitrogen tanks, at least for welding, are pure nitrogen. pure enough to kill you.
you're thinking of helium tanks for balloons, which do have air/oxygen added

>>84853874
Usually true evil pits good against good.