I think my life would be significantly easier if I, an incel manlet, was a foid instead Fuck my life Im tired of everything and being broke khhv
It must be weird being an object, being a sexualised creature.
>>84855401We should switch bodies anon.
>>84855409Better than being completely invisible to everyone all the time forever >>84855411Would you be okay being a manlet though, this is hellish
>>84855409Because if you look down and you see a soft body and breasts and plump thighs and so on, and you're all curvy, I guess you think "Oooh I'm so hot men want to have sex with me!" And I think that makes life a lot simplier.Because men have to think about who and what they are as an actual person. What a man is is what he chooses to be, whereas a woman knows what she is right away, a sex toy for men.
>>84855429When I imagine myself as a man i imagine myself, who is 5'4, as a man who would also be 5'4.
>>84855429So you want attention from people who want to rape your body? Which is fine, that's not good or bad. Everyone will get old and die anyway and you should not only focus on eternal life but right here and now you should maybe try to do things that make you happy, aside from imagining being someone else.
>>84855431Im weak Im useless Im a failure I dont have the energy in me to have to compete with society to reach goals I would genuinely just rather have a starting desirable value and coast through life that wayIm not strong or smart enough to fend for myself, I just want it easy and nice and comfortable and I admit it
>>84855442Nona, I don't think you realise how disliked manlets are. Are you sure you wanna be an incel?
>>84855442We are the same height then>>84855451I would rather have a lot of attention from which I could get good attention than have nothing at allI have already lived 20 years existing as a ghost in the background, I cant go longer like this but I cant change anything I want to be desired and loved and experience a social life too
>>84855452Always with this "women are desirable and men have to do things" narrative. It's just not true. Men have a much higher value in this world by default. Women really only have value as pleasure objects. Everything else they are inferior in.And besides, that's only if you're attractive, yeah it would be nice to be a super attractive female born in the right place and time. It would also be nice to be a super attractive man, probably even moreso I'd say. Because the reason you don't have any energy to do anything in society is because you don't have a reason to because you probably have no foid to take care of, and no friends maybe, and so on. But if you were attractive and rich man and socially educated and whatever you would have that energy and enjoy life very much.But there's other things you can do aside from living in a fantasy for sure that can help so do that.
dont get mad over things you cannot influence focus on the things that make you happy instead theres still lots to do without a foid
>>84855401>manlettroon out???
>>84855480The difference is even attractive men have to take front and center and be the active person in life and society Im too passive and meek, I would not enjoy being an attractive chad because I would still need to be the winner and effortmaxxerMeanwhile as a woman it would just be some personal upkeep I imagine and thats really it, theres various easy methods solo and with someone to never have to do anything to live nicely It sounds good, but instead I have to had been born a manI dont want this role
>>84855455They don't get it and never will. The idea of just not existing to the opposite sex is foreign to them; they think it's the same thing as not being able to get an 8/10 chad and have him commit, because the idea of just not being able to get anyone to even look in their direction at all just doesn't occur to them.
>>84855455I don't care about sex or having a partner, I just want to be a guy. When I imagine myself as a guy, I imagine myself as I am right now, short, weird, and ugly. So if I was a guy, I'd be short, weird and ugly. >>84855469Twins
>>84855485There is nothing that makes me happy in this world right now
>>84855431So you want to be a sex toy for men? You can do that today on Grindr if you want to?
>>84855552I would rather want to be a full fledged person who is also desired and a woman and lives a comfortable easy life, not just a sex toy even if it might involve itBut currently I barely even get out of bed anymore, I have no reason to wake up
>>84855536>I don't care about sex or having a partnerI'm not sure how to explain it, but being a manlet sucks beyond those promises. It's hard to get promotions, harder to get a job, much harder to make friends (male or female), much worse social nets, you're more likely to get bullied.
>>84855575>a full fledged person>and a womanWell you can't be both. Not in a sexist way, but that's how it is. You give up your personhood if you just want to be an attractive hoe and live with some guy.
>>84855600I'd be willing to give up everything I have to be a real man.
>>84855604I dont have personhood now, I basically dont exist at all in any capacity The other way I would at least live and experience things and enjoy lifeLike I am now I just lie down and rot because every avenue is shut for me
>>84855617Okay, well I guess that's too bad then. Yes being a man and being short is indeed literally the worst thing in the universe of all time.
>>84855613If there was such technology, I'd swap places with you. My parents are very friendly though, so you might get along with them
>>84855619>Yes being a man and being short is indeed literally the worst thing in the universe of all timeFor me, it might as well be, because its my lived experience of suffering
all you guys are pathetic and entitled degens and should kill yourself.
>>84855401It's not too late to start estrogen, OP.
>>84855647I would have killed myself forever ago if I lived in America and had easy access to guns
>>84855536>I don't care about sex or having a partner, I just want to be a guy.if you were a guy you would have the hormones which would make you care about sex or having a partner its not something you can just turn off even if you wish so>>84855550finding something is hard but dont let fear of what others think hold you down, in the end people care less about you than you think hell the us president is a pedo and nobody does shit so be free without worries
>>84855660shut up, you are on an anonymous imageboard you nigger.>>84855666> which would make you care about sex or having a partnerjust jerk off faggot anime avatar troon poster
>>84855666I dont enjoy anything I have no hobbies or desires or abilities or anything to do or a want to do or achieve anything My days are spent sleeping and doomscrollingI have no talents or skills or desire to improve All because I was born to suffer, and society made sure to knock it into my head and mind that I will never be anything or anyone worthwhile I never had a friend, Im that useless and hated
>>84855659>>84855487What would that even change at all
>>84855723>What would that even change at allmany things
>>84855738Theres a difference between being a woman and a tranny and I dont exactly feel like having druggie sex with troons because thats all I keep hearing happens only
>>84855431>"Oooh I'm so hot men want to have sex with me!" And I think that makes life a lot simplier.Okay firstly you parameter for self-esteem seems to be "men want to have sex with me" which is just so male coded because you think the utter heights of worth, the crown achievement for what makes something valuable, is whether he wants to shove his dick inside it and fuck. Secondly this "men think I'm hot" entirely explains the entirety of the incel worldview -> only that which my dick twitches at is valuable. This doesn't count all those women generally not seem as "hot", which seems to categorically be any woman 11-39, and about 80% the rest depending upon how varied his "kinks" are (itself dependent upon how deep into porn addiction he is (itself a parameter of how deeply he objectifies women, to where normal human attributes (eg, being older) are now specific categories or pornography))), nor does it recognize the fact that of these "hot" women, almost every one only would ever (potentially - some women hate it) want it from a highly specific set of circumstances or from specific men (in highly specific circumstances). Not all men all the time - you are clearly unaware of just how dangerous that makes the world (from men). And EVERY, single, one, of these women had this objectification begin at about 11 years old. This supposed magical objectification sparkly life-enhancing objectification that wants to fuck you at 11, makes you scared to simply.. exist in public at night. And could just potentially throw acid in your face. Or rape you. Or maybe your father rapes you? Or your male friend? Or your male school teacher rapes your children? And then fucks it's dead corpse . Wow, what a wonderful thing, to be objectified by a man! It feels so special, to have something men appear to be so utterly instinctually driven towards, to have non-consensually just imposed on you. And when you say, "I don't want this, I don't like this" their response is:1/2
>>84855678not a tranny i just like cute things, stop being an insufferable cunt>>84855690same man im a neet that spends his day reading vns and making shitty sketches not even my mum wants to talk to me the only social interaction i got is with gov workers in order to keep the neetbux rolling its depressing but isnt that the ultimate freedom in a way? you should stop doomscrolling tho the algorhythms are designed in a way to keep you angry and depressed another one of the jewish tricks btw dont listen to their lies and chop off your dick man youre just gonna end up as a castrated freak>>84855809i dont think you will ever be able to comprehend the social isolation that comes with being an ugly freak so please stop rubbing salt in the wounds
>>84855809Are you a foid? Because I want to know if it'll be worth reading all this drivel or not. I'm guessing you are.When it comes to foids, their entire value is in being a pleasure object. That's just how it is. Men don't care about them apart from that.
>>84855809I'm bi and I like it when men objectify me :3
>>84855809A minority of women get molested which means that I should not wish to be a woman which still grants more social and monetary benefits if you stay safeNothing will convince me that because women get raped I should accept being an invisible friendless khhv failure simply because women are more fragile You dont understand or comprehend what the total lack of sny positive reinforcement does to a person their entire life>>84855824Im already a freak
>>84855429>being completely invisible to everyone all the time foreverThat's actually a good thing, I don't want to be famous, but I wish I was a millionaire.
>>84855809Women are constantly confused by this. "All you think about is putting your dick in something! Your entire life revolves around putting your dick in something! That's the most important thing to do it's all you think about!"No. That's all men think about when it comes to YOU. When engaging with a woman that's all they think about because what else would they think about when interacting with you? You're not a person you're just a foid. Men don't take your seriously, they don't see you as people. Get over it. Move on.
>>84855852It's like a monkey's paw, people are a lot more nice to you and you can get a nice bf that will treat you right because you're more desirable, but you have to deal with ugly people, rapists, stalkers trying to get in your pants.Honestly, I'd probably take it. Incel life is boring as fuck.
>>84855809"Nuh sour grapes we didn't want you anyway, you're one of those disgusting gross bitches our dicks don't want to fuck!" as if the benchmark they set (does my dick want to fuck this inanimate object??) has any kind of objective meaning or value. >Because men have to think about who and what they are as an actual person. This is the utter arrogance of incels. As if "my dick twitches at you" could possibly equal "your self-esteem". They really do have these megalomaniacal beliefs about the power of their dicks lmao. Too much bimbo porn or something. But be careful not to point this out, his bruised ego might just bash you unconscious or kill you...>What a man is is what he chooses to be, whereas a woman knows what she is right away, a sex toy for men.A "sex toy" for men? I mean despite this being utterly dehumanizing and degrading (and hints at some cringey /lit/ or /pol/ "a man is a world conquering being who's ambition is.. bla bla shut up"), and incredibly porn-coded and reads like an AI written generative SISSY HYPNO title, it's just so utterly wrong that I can't even take it seriously. You mean the local librarian, your mother and your sister knows RIGHT AWAY.. that she is a sex-toy for men. I think it more likely that YOU incel are just extremely desiring of sex, and yet women (rightly) want to stay far away from you, hence your extreme frustration clouding your view on the world.. other people.. humanity. Maybe jack off or something.. or I dunno maybe fuck off?
>>84855914How did you get lost here?
>>84855914I, as the OP, have not even made the sex toy comment at all but glad to know you conceptually dont comprehend my issues of being completely invisible to society besides to shit on me while all you have to deal with is a few scary looks your way
>>84855914>dehumanizing and degradingIndeed, women are. Women don't do anything, that's not a negative or positive thing just a fact. That's why OP wants to be one.Women don't invent and create, they've done practically nothing in history. And even in the last 100 years with near global freedom they've accomplished nothing, killing their own babies and being obnoxious money hungry pests. And that's fine, men don't expect women to do anything.But don't go around acting like women make themselves into their own "person". That's not really what they do, they're followers, they change their entire personality just to fit into their social groups.
>>84855933Given how much hate they have, they likely would end up as an incel had they been born male. I think we should be nicer to each other.
>>84855666>if you were a guy you would have the hormones which would make you care about sex or having a partner its not something you can just turn off even if you wish soI'm on ssris, no I would not care about sex.
>>84855965Im (OP) not even evil or harbour hatred, Im just jealous because my life is shit and I would like it to be easy but nobody cares precisely because Im a manlet
>>84855401>more escapism bullshit from a faggotJust go troon out then. See how much better it makes your life. Fucking moron.
>>84856342Is escapism even bad?
>>84856342trooning doesnt turn you into a rela woman, if it did then hundreds of thousands of men would do it.
>>84855666>f you were a guy you would have the hormones which would make you care about sex or having a partner its not something you can just turn off even if you wish sobs lol. You only think so because you have literally nothing else going on in your life so all you can do is think of sex. Pathetic
>>84856652 sex is just the tip of the iceberg, humans long for connection, to exchange ones feelings with someone you trust, to love and be loved, after all humans did not survive by running alone through the woods but by staying in groups prolonged times of isolation not only lead to mental issues but also physical ones in the long term are you seriously arguing that isnt the case? sure theres exceptions but for most people that is the case, but yes sex is part of it, also how is wanting human connection pathetic?
>>84856748Quite literally women will never understand the plight
