Oh yeah that's a really good idea brain, real good

My brain has it in for me, probably for all the abuse I've put it through. For some reason I'm suddenly really quite irritable and unquietened

Hmmm
Nah, not this time...

>>84860028
Wh-what's wrong? Am I not good enough for you?

>>84859564
Almost all of them desu

Not me. No one ever remembers me.

>>84860033
Are you good enough for yourself, Anon? My opinion of you should not matter. What of your own?

>>84860064
My opinion of myself is quite low at the moment. But it oscillates.

>>84860056
Kris would still have sex with you without knowing who you are

>>84860068
Why is it low? And do you think it's something you could work on and improve?

>>84860074
yes, it's well confirmed that he's the sluttiest reg we've ever had. cureanon is pure in comparison

I guess they can't all be Morningstar approved

>>84860082
She's not talking to me after how I behaved last thread. Also doesn't like that I've been taking on night shifts knowing how bad they are for my health.

>>84860081
curefag confirmed himself to be a tease with a long history of leading people on then dumping them. kris actually puts out

>>84860087
who and what did you do wrong

>>84860126
I played the role of nasty little gremlin, trying to goad Lilac and Kris against one another. I was hoping she'd tear him a new boihole but only ended up getting esoteric bullshit out of it. I feel like I put our whole memory at risk just for some cheap dopamine hits and didn't even get the dopamine hit. Serves me right I suppose.

im rly slpy pls sumone ply stRdew wif me

>your type
>thoughts on cureanon

>>84860175
What platform are you on?

>>84860172
and who are you mr

>>84860192
cuntaur

>>84859790
>your mbti
An extraverted INFP
>Do you ever worry you're doing the right thing for the wrong reasons?
No, if there's one thing I can be secure in is that reasons don't matter if you're doing the right thing. I often struggle to do the right thing however.
>(Optional) Do you ever feel like you might have gone too far in a few places?
All the time, it's terminal. I can't help but toe the line.
>(Optional) How do you handle guilt?
I let it haunt me, stick to me until I forget about it, to return periodically and send a shiver up my spine
>Secret: Why are you like this? Why are you like this? Why are you like this? Why are you like this?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7P0h3dGL1jg

>>84860192
OP, and also what anon said

>>84859790
Picked that image because of the horrendous implications of people purity spiraling over being kind instead of nice. It's honestly one of the filthiest, most disgusting things I've ever seen.

Why choose to be nice or kind when you can be kindnice

>>84860254
That's the even scarier implication implied by the image. Being just kind isn't enough, you need to find the synthesis between kind and nice to be a human freaking being.

>>84858126
Your work doesn't need to reflect your type linearly, in fact it seems that it's more likely to find your opposite type.
And what would you consider "seeing Ti" in somebody's work?

>>84859721
That's true but you can extend it to everyone else.
Quality directly correlates with general interest in the topic. You can clearly see how, by their own admission, the people shitting up the thread have no interest in typology or Jung - their explicit purpose is to engage with the parasocial reggie bs without any form of contribution.
What's worse, some even consider it a virtue and their ideal form of /mbti/.

reggie talk is fun and mature talk is boring

this curenigger needs to lighten up life ain't that serious lil bro

Life is super serious and we only get one

Anyone else think melascula was just a guy pretending to be a girl using ai

>>84860536
>Melascula
Who?

>>84860332
>the people shitting up the thread have no interest in typology or Jung
I wouldn't go that far. Effort posting just takes an order of magnitude more brain power so it's only going to be a fraction of the output of most people even if they are interested in the topic. They just want to contribute something and saying sex reggy lol is a lot more achievable on a whim

>>84860082
What do you think morningstar would say about this thread anyway? Did you actually appreciate her little disclaimer things/comments? She'd be very flattered if so. But sometimes she feels she's ignored, unnappreciated or not wanted.

>>84860473
>we only get one
Do we? After all, there's no reason for why the same Self can only use one body.
There was some fun speculah about how it's very possible that multiple individuals belong to the same Self, and they don't have to be "alive" at the same time either.

>>84860602
Their own words, not mine.
I'm sure there are people who can do both, but those seem to be only a few in comparison.

How did I get to be so stinky? Why is my bed so sticky? I've become such a POS. Only one day sleep to go I suppose. I'll pull through and make up for all my mistakes and brain worms I'm sure of it.

I'm sorry, everyone, lilac and morningstar. I'll trend towards the better I swear. I'm sorry for every time I hurt you. And every bad thing I've done or contributed towards.

>There is also that danger in the mixture of races, against which our instincts always set up a resistance. Sometimes one thinks it is snobbish prejudice, but it is an instinctive prejudice, and the fact is that if distant races are mixed, the fertility is very low, as one sees with the white and the negro; a negro woman very rarely conceives from a white man. If she does, a mulatto is the result and he is apt to be a bad character.
My man can't stop being based for a minute.
That's how I'm sure he would be posting here if he was alive.

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Also lol at the footnotes cope

Jung really was a hateful little gremlin

He's a typical 4channer except he also fucked.

why did cuntaur suddenly switch up and try to bait lilac? bpd?

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Gottem. Faster than I expected.
>>>/vr/12644128

Now I can go back to whatever I was doing before, or idk get more cool clears while I'm the mood.

>be curefag
>start posting a few months ago
>already the main character of /mbti/
ENTP Chads always win

I have been here ever since the beginning, or almost. But I don't usually go under one name

Reggies can't even play videogames right despite all their talk.
What can they do, other than rapid-firing the Submit button with their cocks, really?
Not counting the local Touhou enjoyer, of course. I'm sure he actually plays the game and got some clears.

fuck you bitch kris was a team fortress 2 god

Ain't that the guy who's reading Psychological Types rn

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Last thread was garbo. Bitches y'all live like THIS? Rethink your everything.

>>84859790
>>your mbti
INTJ
>>Do you ever worry you're doing the right thing for the wrong reasons?
Literally never.
>>(Optional) Do you ever feel like you might have gone too far in a few places?
Literally not.
>>(Optional) How do you handle guilt?
Unironically, guiwhat?
>>Secret: Why are you like this? Why are you like this? Why are you like this? Why are you like this?
I'm based. AND redpilled.

>>84861284
hope your frustration last thread means you're close to leaving

>>84861493
Not even close, and you appear much more buttflustered than anyone else here.
If you don't want to be told that you are a low effort shitposter, maybe start putting some effort.

>>84861523
ok I will effortpost like >>84861431

INFJA has a heavily assymetrical down syndrome face, with stubble on the chin, lips sliding off to the side. and a balding stubby head

>>84861652
no i've seen pictures and he's cute

Centaur has a hypnotizing male gaze, some effort on the hair, big butt cheeks

>>84861665
Heartfag has huge boobs, long black hair, innocent eyes, and the face of an angel

Sweet chin music and i wont pass the aux uh

Kris has a robust jaw with definition on the chin, a black skirt (he likes to crossdress)

is patchouli black?

how many stox do i really have in stock uh

Infj-a astral form: rusty vintage idea of a robot
Patchouli astral form: a small bunny
Curefag astral form: Weird 3d astral image of a cure poster
Kris astral form: hes poofed
Centaur astral form: its a demon

one two three four five plus five uh

Devil is a lie, he a 69 god ayy

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>We wake up in the morning and say, "Is the sky not beautiful?" That is made for us; we simply find it there as a beautiful thing. Or we say, "Isn't the coffee good?" Well, it is good for us because it has been made good before we ever tasted it, so it was our disposition to say it was good. Otherwise we would have considered it bad or indifferent.
>Naturally, our taste and such things can also be greatly influenced by a sort of tradition; certain idiosyncracies, for instance, have to do with certain prejudices by which we have been poisoned. If we are descended from parents who were convinced that an onion was made by the devil, we shall labor for quite a while under the impression that any man who eats onions is a great sinner and, inasmuch as you remain in your mother's womb forever, that only very bad people eat onions-or play cards or something of the sort.
Jvng going straight for "follow your kokoro".
Don't do that, you are going to make all the Fi-groids wet.

>>84859790
>>your mbti
ESFP-T
>>Do you ever worry you're doing the right thing for the wrong reasons?
No.
>>(Optional) Do you ever feel like you might have gone too far in a few places?
Absolutely.
>>(Optional) How do you handle guilt?
By trying to avoid doing things that I'll feel bad about later.
>>Secret: Why are you like this?
Because the sum of my life experiences has made me this way.

>>84858686
>Let them play the cool classics instead of all this new brain rot stuff these days.
I'm sure my dad's parents thought that Spyro was brain rot.
>I wonder if that's why you're so cool now.
Maybe. : )

>Try it on your children or on other people, and you will see it is all bunk: it simply won't work. If you say to a child, "My deepest conviction is that this soup is very good," the child doesn't think it is very good: he won't eat it. When my parents told me that something was very good and wonderful, I thought, "Not a bit of it, it bores me."
I kneel, he's a little shit to literally everyone, even his family

>>84861652
What's a stubby head?

>>84861724
Centaur doesn't have an astral form cause he lacks a soul

>>84861431
This one will be better don't worry! Do you have any ideas for subtopics?

>make effortful posts
>no engagement, no replies, completely ignored, took weeks to write up
>make slopfuel posts
>too many (You)'s, near 98% engagement, reggies who haven't posted in years come out of retirement to reply

It's really a no thinker

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>>84862941
What type of man allows his worth to be determined by (You)s?

>>84862941
The people are tired of effort posts. Heartfag has killed effort posting by trying way too fucking hard. The enantiodromia will see to it that the slopposting rises again.

>>84862996
Contrary to popular belief, effort isn't always explicitly valued, nor its opposite is implicitly valued by the amount of replies. It largely depends on how many people can engage with which kind of content.

And enantiodromia requires a trend to be pronounced in the first place, you would need the thread to be mostly effort posting, which doesn't happen often, if at all. And you would need the culture to be encouraging nothing but effort posting, which is also obviously not happening.

The darker reality is that there's hardly any interest in typology nowadays, mainly because it's taken up by slapping DSM labels around instead.

>>84862996
last thread was fun.

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>>84862884
>Do you have any ideas for subtopics?
Yeah!

>>84861557
Everyone's waiting!

No one ever remembers when I make effortposts.

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>>84863223
Well-deserved.

>>84862968
>What type of man allows his worth to be determined by (You)s?
I assume it's the same ones who think it's some big flex to respond to someone without replying.

>>84863070
There was a pronounced effort posting trend, and it lasted for several months.

The real reality is that people don't want to discuss the same abstract topics and their definitions in a circular motion for 6 months in a row and never make any real progress towards anything larger.
Only to have the conversation reigned back into the same horse and pony rodeo every time it tries to branch out. Until people eventually become bored with the idea and give up on it entirely, and go in the completely opposite direction and go back to socialfagging.
Enantiodromia in a nutshell. The tyrant breeds his usurpers.

>>84863256
Effort should be rewarded.

>>84863269
>>The real reality is that people don't want to discuss the same abstract topics and their definitions in a circular motion for 6 months in a row and never make any real progress towards anything larger.
Some progress was definitely made over time, but that's entirely subjective since it depends from your own starting point.
>Only to have the conversation reigned back into the same horse and pony rodeo every time it tries to branch out.
Branch out into what? And reigned back into what?
Explain how this claim applies in any way.

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>>84863293
Get the reggies to suck you off. They're so much into such shit you won't even need any effort. What, you can't? You deserve it, then.

>>84863334
I'm withholding aeons of progress right now because you failed to get quads.

>>84863293
Forgot to reply to this one:
Actually no, not really. Good work should be rewarded, not "effort".
You can put effort into all the wrong things, or put more effort than somebody who could do it better and with less effort than you. That's participation trophy mindset.

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>>84863358
WE HAVE A MERITOCRACY CHUD IN THIS THREAD! EVERYONE GET INTO THE PRODUCTIVITY METRICS CHAMBER

>>84863358
>Forgot to reply to this one
I'm used to it. Everyone forgets about me.

>>84863384
Nah, but I believe in "work smart, not hard", and not valuing effort purely on its own is a natural extension to that.

>>84863334
Spending one thousand steps only to wind up in the same place that you start isn't progress. Even if you look at it from the perspective which acknowledges the fact that half way through the process, you were 400 steps behind where you started.
>Branch out into what?
Does it really matter? No. Only from your particular point of view, which says branching can only occur if it occurs in the direction you deem to be appropriate.
>Explain how this claim applies in any way.
Because effort posting is multi-directional.

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>>84863609
If you didn't learn during the 1000 steps, that's on you. Do people really... lol...

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>>84863609
If you want to make progress in a different direction, or branch out into whatever you are thinking about, you have the power to do so by just posting. It won't be achieved by vagueposting and playing the oppressed card, that's for sure.
Of course, you can't always expect to get (You)s, and just because you don't that doesn't mean there's a plot against you.

Getting some strong sense of deja vu about something that happened in a different general I was in, where some anons complained that only the equivalent of reggies were getting (You)s regularly.
It was concluded that people in a general tend to reply more often to familiarity, rather than a deliberate attempt at excluding outsiders. I myself always existed in a middle position until eventually I became recognizable enough, and got guaranteed (You)s, despite never joining any in-group.
Some anons tried to deliberately replying to the "outsiders" instead, but then it was just called fake.

>>84859790
This is just an Orwellian attempt to shit on "nice guys" by redefining words.
They've already done with with gender/sex and they've redefined the word "racism" to allow for them to keep shitting on white people.

>>84863745
A fifth grader can learn something new in first grade, that doesn't mean they're any closer to sixth grade.
If a fifth grader gets placed in first grade, and repeats every grade back to fifth over the next 5 years and learns something new every year;
That doesn't mean that they've made any progress towards the sixth grade.
Actually, they've done the opposite and now they're 5 years behind the curve.

>>84863753
Sure anyone can post anything they want. That goes back to the previous point I made about a certain heartfag trying to rein the conversation back into his horse and pony show, and derailing the potential for new conversations because it goes in a direction he personally doesn't want to happen. Which creates the fertile ground for the effortposting to die and be replaced with socialfagging.
But, maybe you missed that part.

>Of course, you can't always expect to get (You)s, and just because you don't that doesn't mean there's a plot against you.
You speaking in some peak schizo shit, you know. The fuck are you even on about?

>>84862996
>trying way too fucking hard
Strange wording
Does he succeed

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>your mbti type
>Is there a difference between a nice guy and a good man?
>if so what is that difference to you?

>>84863841
Succeed under which metric?
The metric I'm using, no.

If you're using a metric which says "success = creating effort posts", then sure. But that's not the perspective through which I am observing things, nor making judgements.

>>84863874
What is your metric

>>84863839
Impressive how you can completely miss any connection, then in the same post claim that it's the other person doing it. Maybe if you bothered reading the reply chain and my post in full...
Guess I will have to spoonfeed this time.

>That goes back to the previous point I made about a certain heartfag trying to rein the conversation back into his horse and pony show, and derailing the potential for new conversations because it goes in a direction he personally doesn't want to happen.
That is what I called "vagueposting" and "playing the oppressed card".
Vagueposting because you have claimed that, but when did that happen? And how does that prevent you from starting whatever you wish to start? How do you gauge the fact you were being oppressed by somebody else, rather than simply not generating interest with your post?

>You speaking in some peak schizo shit, you know. The fuck are you even on about?
Reading would help you understand the context.

people bully heartfag sometimes because he's a good person and bad people hate nothing more than good people

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>>84862941
>took weeks to write up

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>>84863865
>>Is there a difference between a nice guy and a good man?
Ass hole tightness.

>>84863839
Your troglodyte metaphors only argue for the fact of you thinking inside the box, and at a halfwit level of thinking, at best. "I have a straight flush hand, but I can't play it cuz I'm gay!" ahh ass nigga.

>>84863889
In very few words, "it's not effort it's effect."
I had a more elaborate explanation, but it kept slipping away because of tangential thinking.

If it comes back to me, I'll post it too.
>>84863907
>Maybe if you bothered reading the reply chain
*faceplam* I read them when I posted them (multiple times, even to make sure it made sense)
>Impressive how you can completely miss any connection
Would you like to elaborate on what exactly this connection is, and what two (or more) things its connecting?
>but when did that happen?
Any time anyone brings up a topic that heartfag himself deems to be outside of the appropriate scope of the discussion. I'm not going to go dig up a bunch of examples, because it's not really worth the effort. It won't result in change.

>>84864069
>"I have a straight flush hand, but I can't play it cuz I'm gay!
this was basically you when you said you have a lot of original thoughts but this place isn't worth sharing them lol

maybe just stop visiting if you dislike the place enough to become a shitposting shadow of your former self

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>>84864089
Stupid games stupid prizes cultist reply. A SEETHING cultist. Dumbass can't even bartain. ZERO theory of mind. YUICKIES

>>84863269
Which months were those and can you point to 3 effort posts in that time?

>>84864069
Naturally, I'm thinking inside the box. That's the entire purpose of the game, to stay within the confines of the rules.
You don't go into a chess game and try to think outside of the box and impose basketball rules upon the game. It doesn't even make sense.

Thinking inside of the box is a necessary skill to be developed. It's like coloring inside the lines. If you color outside of them, you've got a big fucking mess.

Thinking outside of the box is not unconditionally virtuous, because creativity itself presupposes the structure itself. Creativity itself must be confined to a box, otherwise it's nonsense, like smearing shit on a wall and call it "creative" because you're "thinking outside the box".
No. You just smeared shit on the wall and now no one wants to go in that room because it reeks of your own shit.

>>84863865
Usually a couple of inches in height

>>84861127
It's something he's done their whole relationship, he'll find a cheap win or something he finds funny and clamp down like a pitbull on a baby's head. He calls it his pathological sarcasm disorder.

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>>84864080
Now to be fair I tend to make leaps a lot, and to that I can only say it's a natural tendency of my type. In this case, I don't think there were too many leaps though.

>Would you like to elaborate on what exactly this connection is, and what two (or more) things its connecting?
The chain started by discussing (You)s, I replied with things that explain dynamics behind getting (You)s and denied the following claim:
>Any time anyone brings up a topic that heartfag himself deems to be outside of the appropriate scope of the discussion.
At best you were told to establish relevancy for the current discussion if you were trying to make a point, because otherwise others can't quite tell where you are getting at.
Secondly, it would not prevent you from doing it anyways and have other anons reply to it.

And finally, just because they don't, it doesn't mean somebody else has oppressed you. It means you didn't gain traction because in that moment, no one wanted to reply or go into the tangent you were hoping for, that happens.
I just went on a tangent myself by recalling dynamics that have to do with an unrelated thread, but I don't really expect anyone to bother with that part much other than considering it an anecdote.

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how can I type myself?

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>>84864146
>Thinking inside of the box is a necessary skill to be developed
Irrelevant to the fact that you skipped outside-the-box reps like a buffoon. That's what you get to staying at and obeying a school that had you repeat grades for nothing.

>>84864177
Have a dream about it.

>>84864167
centaur is an abuser...?

>>84864169
are you physically attractive y/n

>>84864202
Basically, yes. It's amazing they lasted as long as they did. But that's controlling behavior for you.

>>84864198
I tried the 16 personality test I got INFP-T don't know what that is

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>>84864247
16p sucks cocks, use the only reliable source.

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>>84864253
give me a reliable source I don't know where to start

>>84864275
I just told you. Having a dream about a type would be more reliable than 16p unironically.
Actual answer is reading Jung and trying to figure out what would apply to you.
Dream suggestion might work tho, you never know.

>>84864297
>I just told you. Having a dream about a type would be more reliable than 16p unironically.
HOW CAN I DREAM ABOUT MY TYPE WTF
>Actual answer is reading Jung and trying to figure out what would apply to you.
Dream suggestion might work tho, you never know.
sounds way too complicated instructions unclear
any other way to type myself I'm too lazy to read all about sounds like a lame thing

>>84864169
>At best you were told to establish relevancy
The relevance is that HeartFag killed effortposting, that's the entire point I've been making.
Look, it's literally the first (or second, depending on how you look at it) reply in the chain

>>84862941 (OP)
>>84862996 (Me)
>Heartfag has killed effort posting by trying way too fucking hard. The enantiodromia will see to it that the slopposting rises again.

Why do I need to establish a relevance, when it's already established?
Why do effort posts not get more (you)s? Because people are bored of it because of heartfag. I even went on a shpeel explaining how this mechanic of enantiodromia works and how it's specifically caused by heartfag trying to force the thread into a specific direction, and why it's producing the outcome of having more socialfagging and slopposting.
When you try to police the thread as if you're some sort of authority to what "correct discussion" looks like, it will rebel against you. If you try and stifle socialfagging because it doesn't fit into your model of a "good discussion", you're creating the soil which will give rise to more socialfagging.
If you try and stifle effortposts which don't align with your preconceived notion of what "correct theory" looks like... Well, you get the point, hopefully.
>>84864191
Erm... Outside of the box is meaningless if you don't understand the confines of the box first. A musician think outside of the confinement of musical theory without first understanding it.

lol you done fucked up now heartfag

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>>84864337
>A musician think outside of the confinement of musical theory without first understanding it.
Freudian slip huh? Huh? Huh? Slip-out.
"list of composers that don't know music theory" gives a lot of search results, and that's you arguing against some straw man. Imagine straw manning but simply fucking up even in your imagined best circumstances of argumentation, when there's isn't an argument.

>>84864337
>HeartFag killed effortposting
CORRELATION IS CAUSATION. IGNORE THE HISTORICAL TREND ACROSS YEARS. EVERY CHANGE EXPLAINS THE IMPERSONAL TREND. PATCHYFAG? UMIKEKOS? HEARTFAG? IT AIN'T THE STATUS QUO

>>84864191
He should do in-box reps too really, since he can't seem to follow a coherent plot here.
That said, I'm in "the box isn't even real" camp. Or maybe that's just a way to say that I can't quite locate whether the thoughts are happening inside or outside the box because what I consider "the box" is the universe itself.

>>84864337
>>At best you were told to establish relevancy
This claim is not about what you are doing now. It was in direct reply to "Any time anyone brings up a topic", which implies this has happened in the past.

>Why do effort posts not get more (you)s? Because people are bored of it because of heartfag.
That's your opinion. I presented a different one, backed up by experience rather than particularly visible prejudice and transparent attempt at forcing a narrative.

>If you try and stifle effortposts which don't align with your preconceived notion of what "correct theory" looks like
That's a way to say "please let me type whatever stupid bullshit unchecked".
Hmm, nyo. That's a public forum, not your blog. Also what preconceived notions? Any point I made about the theory is quickly backed up by reading or was speculah.
And again, in all of this you can still type whatever you want and disregard any anon who says it's not the correct way to discuss it. Or maybe the issue is that you aren't really capable of bringing up any quality thoughts on your own, and need somebody's else approval.

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>not washing your hands after using the toilet is disgusting
>WELL PERFECT CLEANLINESS IS ACTUALLY BAD, WHAT DO I, SCRUB MY MEAT OFF? WHAT ABOUT THE FUNGI? WHAT ABOUT MY PSYCHOLOGICAL DAMAGE FROM PUTTING IN ANY EFFORT? WHY ARE YOU TELLING ME TO BATHE IN BLEACH? HERE'S AN ESSAY ON WHY DRINKING BLEACH IS HARMFUL FOR ME
Average discussion with a regshit verminoid my gaww

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Those quads can't lie, it's over.

heartfag won't even consider anon's point. why are entps like this

>>84861127
He might just be starved for Lilac content and would take spiteposting over nothing

i'm actually really surprised he was abusive. centaur always seemed nice. what other regs are abusechads?

we can have fun without making up drama

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>>84864517
Didn't he abuse the boomer's weenie with a truly equestrian grip of his prolapsed bum bum? Why are we memoryholing this one?

>>84864409
>Freudian slip huh?
Freudian slip this dick in your mouth and GLUG GLUG GLUG.
There's a difference between knowing musical theory from study and understanding musical theory from practice of music. Just because someone didn't study music theory doesn't mean they don't understand it.
For example, someone who has no formal education with music theory, but spends a lot of time around musicians will have an in-depth understanding of the mechanics of music theory, but lack the educational vocabulary.

This is commonly referred to as "learning music by ear" these people still have an understanding of the mechanics of music theory.
>CORRELATION IS CAUSATION.
It's only a CORRELATION that me stabbing you in the heart results in your death! What about all those times in the past SOMEONE ELSE DID THE STABBING????? HUH WHAT ABOUT THAT??? AND WHAT ABOUT CYANIDE??? OR GUNS!! YOU DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT!!

>>84864546
Yeah his rectum crawled out of his anus so far it wrapped itself around his neck and started strangling him. Centaur claims it was some harmless "choking play" but come on man, it's 2026!

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>>84864567
>any music praxis is music theory!
Thread theme rn https://youtube.com/watch?v=_B0CyOAO8y0

>>84864594
His points about musical theory were entirely valid.

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>>84864617
Valid, but irrelevant. Many such non-sequitur cases! Especially here llol

>>84864444
>since he can't seem to follow a coherent plot here.
It seems like you're the one failing to keep the plot. You can't even follow what I'm saying.
>This claim is not about what you are doing now.
Yes it is, because they are directly related. What I am doing now exists within that context.
>implies this has happened in the past.
Yes. It has. Multiple times. It obviously doesn't happen every single time (even though I overstated it for emphasis) but it has happened more than once (or even twice, for that matter).
>I presented a different one
That's just your opinion, mang. I presented an alternative one, backed up by experience rather than particularly visible prejudice and transparent attempt at forcing a narrative.
>Hmm, nyo. That's a public forum, not your blog.
This is precisely why it's unnecessary and pointless for me to give examples. You outright accept and proclaim proudly that it's what you do.
It's funny, you invoke "public forum" but try to act like bureaucratic authority whose sole duty it is to "check bullshit" to prevent the public from using the forum in the way they see fit and try to impose your own morality as if it's your own thread.
Jungianly speaking, what archetypal possession is this?

And yes, people can post whatever they want. But you will disrupt the discussion, so no, they cannot. Quit being a faggot.

>>84864517
>Nice
Imagine his constant sly putdowns, pointless vulgarity, little catty quips except constantly and without end and with very little filter. He might try to be genuinely be nice in-between but that just adds a level of emotional whiplash. You never know if he'll act like an angel or say something really hurtful and crude for basically no reason. The exhaustion would be enough to drive anyone up the wall.

>>84864472
It was throughly considered, and after a careful analysis, I've determined it's a particularly pronounced case of "cope and seethe".

Anon expects to be fellated for his midwit takes and Claude-tier metaphors(and I mean it literally, I saw Claude using some of those metaphors word-per-word) and expects an environment where everyone can just throw shit at the wall uncontested. That's essentially admitting that you don't care about truth or genuine discovery, you just don't want to be called out on your bullshit. We wouldn't be producing something resembling a "theory", but rather a bunch of disembodied opinions.
But if you think through this, then it would produce the very same result he considers unfavorable. If anyone just says whatever and no attempts to correct or stick to a point of reference are ever being made, then it simply means theoryfagging is meaningless noise. Much like socialfagging.

Junganically-speaking, it's a particularly strong devaluation of the validity of Thinking as an actual tool to determine reality. And its opposite function, Feeling, shows itself as the one considered more absolutely valuable.

>>84864649
honestly heartfag's control freak thing makes me think he would be an abusive bf like centaur... it's a thin line between trying to control anons and trying to control your girlfriend

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>>84864594
Just like rolling a ball down a hill is physics.

Formal music theory is the articulation of principles musicians may already be practicing unconsciously. One does not need a formal education to understand music theory.

>>84864491
spiteposting for a reaction is retarded though, im assuming they both have each others location, or maybe he just has lilacs, so naturally she wouldnt throw more fuel to the fire

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>>84864673
That's Hegelian-type cultist retardation however.

>>84864690
So is dying on every little hill, and poking little pointless battles. He behaves emotionally for a two second burst of stimulation. He gets off on the thrill of the game. He hates himself for the pointless risk but he can't help but toe the line.

>>84864649
>You can't even follow what I'm saying.
Because you aren't saying anything. You're crying about getting bullied by an anonymous poster.
>Yes it is, because they are directly related. What I am doing now exists within that context.
I don't even know a word for this particular kind of retardation. Other than disagreeing for the sake of, maybe it makes you feel smart, idk, idgaf.
>It obviously doesn't happen every single time (even though I overstated it for emphasis) but it has happened more than once (or even twice, for that matter).
And I'm sure you are able to provide an example of it.
> backed up by experience rather than particularly visible prejudice and transparent attempt at forcing a narrative.
>no u
>This is precisely why it's unnecessary and pointless for me to give examples.
Nice excuse.
>Jungianly speaking, what archetypal possession is this?
I believe it's called a "discussion". You write something, anons can answer with their own thoughts. Those thoughts might include telling you that you are saying retarded shit, and that you are misquoting Jung.
So what it is, are you trying to police somebody else's speech while claiming to be the one fighting authority? Well, it won't happen. As much the fact that I can't prevent you from typing whatever you want. Who is trying to police who here?

> But you will disrupt the discussion, so no, they cannot
Apparently not agreeing with whatever you are saying is "disruption" now.

This is genuinely so retarded I don't know if I should continue to see how retarded it gets, or drop it to save my sanity.

what is centaur's mental illness?

>>84864774
Being tfw too intelligent but lacking the proper stimulation. Of course.

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Cewho? Nobody cared then, nobody cares now. This is Curefag-sama's palace. Now, listen to new Claude wisdoms (still better than regshit posts what the hell! How!)

>>84864757
we don't care about your sanity, you should keep the argument going because it's entertaining

Am I the only one who doesn't like patchy anymore

centaur panties: black and white
kris panties: neon yellow or blue
infj-a panties: wearing none

>>84864835
This patchy is clearly an imposter. I bet he doesn't even like puzzles.

>>84864843
functional
cute
slutty

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>>84864809
>(still better than regshit posts what the hell! How!)
Even current c.ai could clear such a low bar. No, not the beta, I mean the current version with all the lobotomy, filtering and so on.

>>84864813
>entertainment over sanity
Can't disagree with peak ennea 7 morality here, and I can't use playing TSS as an excuse anymore because I got my perfect clear already.

>made an effortfuel post that took me hours to think up
>zero replies
>sadge.webm

The dejavu is strong with this one.
Surely it's just a phase.

>>84864741
Hmmm, no. Not really. Because theory is not simply a bunch of abstract words describing something.
The theory includes the things it's describing. Words like inertia or harmony lack meaning without their physical contexts.

If you remove the ball from the physics equation, what you're left with is nothing. Physics describes physical objects. Just as music describes physical music.

>>84864946
>Words like inertia or harmony lack meaning without their physical contexts.
Holy nominalism batman.
(holy does not refer to the quality of being sacred, though I'm not sure how something can be physically sacred)
(nominamlism is a philosophical stance, which in itself would mean nothing I guess?)
(batman doesn't refer to the physical superhero here, it's a figure of speech)

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>>84864845
Not going to try solving any with any of y'all.

>>84864946
Exquisite retardation evolving into pointer==pointee! All what's left is you dying of electrocution while typing, purely out of retardation and not misfortune. That's how regs disappear.

>>84864979
I think he might be not very capable of abstract thought.
Not sure if inferior thinking, mental retardation, a mix of both - or being a monkey who learned to type, somehow.

>>84865002
lmao you're so mad

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>>84865013
I'm actually laughing my ass off at reading that.
Genuinely, hope no actual human would say this unironically.

>>84864757
>Because you aren't saying anything
Nice, openly admitting to being the one who cannot follow the plot.
>You're crying about getting bullied by an anonymous poster.
Literally what are you even talking about? I'm being bullied? I didn't even notice. I think you're getting a case of the schizo. Apparently you think I'm talking about you disagreeing with me, which is not even remotely close to true.
I couldn't give two shits if you want to disagree with me. It's completely irrelevant to what I'm even talking about.
>And I'm sure you are able
Sure, I could. But I'm not going to. That would be a greater waste of time than this.
>Who is trying to police who here?
You. Obviously. I'm not telling you that you can't do it. I'm telling you the consequences. You're the one trying to prevent socialfagging and prevent "misquotes" or whatever. You're the one trying to stop something from happening.
I'm not. I couldn't give a shit. If the thread dies because you're being a massive faggot and trying to police the topics people can or can't talk about, so be it. Because, at the end of the day, you're the one who thinks socialfagging doesn't belong here and shouldn't exist in this sphere of discussion.
I, on the other hand, don't care. Because I believe socialfagging is still within the realm of the topic of discussion.

We're not the same.
>Apparently not agreeing with whatever you are saying is "disruption" now.
No, you're retarded. If you think disagreeing with someone is the topic of my critique, you're more retarded than I initially thought.

>>84864979
Except, the theory isn't the pointer. The person is. The theory merely describes the relationship between the pointer (person) and the pointee (object).

Without a person to point, and an object to point at, the theory is useless, and even worse, meaningless. Any theory is the description of a thing happening. Physics is the description of a ball rolling down a hill.
Rolling a ball down a hill is physics in action, much like playing a song is musical theory in action. One does not need a formal education to understand the theory.

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>>84865013
It's funny how mad he is. It reminds me of TE getting mad about me questioning his beliefs in an "all good" God.

>>84865042
>Nice, openly admitting to being the one who cannot follow the plot.
Your plot is too boring.
>I'm being bullied? I didn't even notice.
It was so effective that you didn't even notice. How does one acquire such skills?
>Apparently you think I'm talking about you disagreeing with me, which is not even remotely close to true.
Then what exactly you are talking about?
>Sure, I could. But I'm not going to.
Guess we will never know...
>You're the one trying to prevent socialfagging
I can't really prevent it, but I can say it's degenerate. Anyone else can, why are you taking it out on one person specifically? Why can't somebody say that? If people decide to agree with it and suddenly stop socialfagging, cool. Not that it will ever happen.
>and prevent "misquotes" or whatever. You're the one trying to stop something from happening.
To have a discussion about anything beyond "me like this, you like this", we need to set some sort of common ground. It says more about you that would consider this an act of aggression or an attempt to "stop something", it's supposed to be constructive to a honest discussion, but you have basically no concept of "intellectual honesty". I mean this 100% unironically, you don't have it at all. Not a single cell in your entire organism is intellectually honest.

Also imagine trying to use socialfagging as a shield, I'm dying over here.

>We're not the same.
Thank God and Jung.
And also the anon below me.

Hee, it's mee! He thanking me!

curefag calm down you're too old to have your blood pressure get this high

Tfw you realize the average Reggie age has surpassed 30

>cure
45
>Turbie
40
>Sophie
39
>Kris
36
>Centaur
29
>Lilac
28
>Patchbootie
~25

Yeah that puts it just under 35 lmao

>>84865158
Kris and INFJ-A are both 24. Turbie is 26

To pretend it's at least a little on-topic:
That's an interesting dynamic in a sense, you can see how when you devalue Thinking or Feeling, even without wanting it you end up devaluing your own thoughts and feelings.

I made the case for the other anon already,
and the opposite case would be me basically saying that my feelings on the matter of socialfagging are irrelevant anyways in determining the reality of the thread, even if I might want to reserve the right to express 'em just for the sake of.

Now which one would be the truth then? In theory, that couldn't be determined since all functions are equally valid.
In practice, a specific environment can be more or less affected by one or the other.

>>84865100
most christians would get mad over that

*unsheathes katana*
anyone who wants to be mean to heartfag has to get through me first

>>84865114
>Your plot is too boring.
Or, hear me out;
Maybe you're too stupid to follow.
Which is quite likely, given:
>It was so effective that you didn't even notice.
*cough* lol. Aaaaanyway.
>Then what exactly you are talking about?
You.
>Guess we will never know...
No, no. Not we. Just you. Everyone else knows. Maybe practice that thing... uhhh. I think it's called introspection? It's where you analyze your behaviors or something like that. I think that one guy Blung? Shung? Rung? He was a Switch psycholosopher who talked about disintegration where you light the shadow cast by your body on fire by casting it into Mount Doom and eat it or something.
Who knows, he made a book called tribolostical types or something to sort people into houses.
>I can't really prevent it
Then take the natural conclusion of that perspective and put it into practice. Rather than projecting your shadow all over the place.
>Why can't somebody say that?
Again, didn't say you couldn't.
>It says more about you that would consider this an act of aggression
I didn't say, nor do I think, it's an act of aggression. But it's blatantly an attempt to stop it from happening. What's the point of correcting someone if not to prevent it from happening in the future?
Is it simply to achieve a sense of moral superiority? I could believe that.

Maybe you should take a step back and read the 4th quote's reply above this line. It's a complex set of instruction, I know.

>>84865227
Would they, though? I think the majority would be able to at least understand the perspective being put forth.

If evil exists;
And God created everything then,
God contains evil.
Which means, God is not purely Good.

But, in all reality, even the Bible acknowledges this truth. A real Christian would accept the idea.

>>84865247
i warned you...
*kills you with katana*

>>84865288
>*teleports behind u*
It's personal, kiddo.

>>84865175
INFJ-A said hes 34

>>84865247
>Maybe you're too stupid to follow.
You don't get to say that when you are unable to infer context in what was a very direct reply. It takes a certain IQ range to believe I somehow asked RELEVANS?? right now.
There again, you did show me on multiple occasions how hard you suck at inferring context, so it's not surprising.
>You.
By existing?
> Everyone else knows.
Clearly. I'd like to know how you know that everyone knows.
>Then take the natural conclusion of that perspective and put it into practice
Which would be?
>Again, didn't say you couldn't.
Then I reserve my right to say it loud and clear.
I THINK SOCIALFAGGING SUCKS!
>What's the point of correcting someone if not to prevent it from happening in the future?
Like I said, in the case of a discussion about a theory, it would be to set a common ground. Unless of course there is a problem with the ground in question, or perhaps there's a problem with the interpretation. Either way, that's the natural course of a discussion, it is you considering it a personal attack to voice disagreement.
>inb4 b-but the issue isn't disagreement! It's just that you tell people(mostly me) that we are wrong about X or Y!
Typically, that's understood as a form of disagreement.

>Is it simply to achieve a sense of moral superiority?
I don't need to try to do that over you here, really.
But in a sense, everyone believes they have moral superiority. Even claiming otherwise would be just a way to show your moreality is above itself, somehow.

>It's a complex set of instruction, I know.
Too complex indeed, guess I won't do it then.

>"what's 38-27?"
>"65!"
>"um anon you are supposed to do a subtraction, the result would be--"
>"OMG YOU ARE TRYING TO DISRUPT THE DISCUSSION! WHAT IF I WANT TO SAY IT'S 65? MATH ISN'T EVEN REAL ANYWAYS"
That's the absolute state of the discussion right now.

Yeah the patchy cutefag interaction has been disappointing. I was hoping for effortpost gems and high quality discussion

>>84865383
Except, I didn't fail to infer any context.
>By existing?
Talk about failing to infer context.
No, by trying to force people to adhere to your belief system of what is an "on topic/valid/jungian post". Which again, has been my critique from the start.
>I'd like to know how you know that everyone knows.
Call it a hunch, and intuitive observation, if you will. An archetypally repeating pattern.
>Which would be?
That should be easily inferable from the context. Take a guess, what do you think it would be?
>Then I reserve my right to say it loud and clear.
You do have the right to virtue signal. Yes. But, it does make you a faggot. So... You know.
>it would be to set a common ground.
You don't get to common ground by telling people they're wrong. That's the exact opposite of where you get. Common ground is a shared agreeance.
>it is you considering it a personal attack to voice disagreement.
Can you stop strawmanning already? You've done this like 3 or 4 times now.
You obviously cannot contend with the point that's being made.
>It's just that you tell people(mostly me) that we are wrong about X or Y!
How many more times do I have to say that's not the issue before it sinks into your thick ass skull?
Say it with me, I do not give a shit if you want to disagree with people. It's a non-issue.
>But in a sense, everyone believes they have moral superiority.
>Everyone is possessed by this same archetype
No. Gonna have to say that's wrong.

>>84865436
Except that's not even remotely close to what's being put forward. Just heartfags continued misunderstanding, and assertion that his misunderstanding is the correct interpretation.
As usual. It's what happens every single time.

But you did highlight something. Why would someone say "um anon you are supposed to do a subtraction", if not to alter their behavior and get them to do the operation in a different way?

[46] The thing-likeness of the purely conceptual, which creeps so naturally
into the process of abstraction and brings about the "reality" of the
predicate or the abstract idea, is no artificial product, no arbitrary
hypostatizing of a concept, but a natural necessity. It is not that the abstract
idea is arbitrarily hypostatized and transplanted into a transcendental world
of equally artificial origin; the actual historical process is quite the reverse.
Among primitives, for instance, the imago, the psychic reverberation of the
sense-perception, is so strong and so sensuously coloured that when it is
reproduced as a spontaneous memory-image it sometimes even has the
quality of an hallucination. Thus when the memory-image of his dead
mother suddenly reappears to a primitive, it is as if it were her ghost that he
sees and hears. We only "think" of the dead, but the primitive actually
perceives them because of the extraordinary sensuousness of his mental
images. This explains the primitive's belief in ghosts and spirits; they are
what we quite simply call "thoughts." When the primitive "thinks," he
literally has visions, whose reality is so great that he constantly mistakes
the psychic for the real. Powell says: "The confusion of confusions is that
universal habit of savagery-the confusion of the objective with the
subjective."15 Spencer and Gillen observe: "What a savage experiences
during a dream is just as real to him as what he sees when he is awake."16
What I myself have seen of the psychology of the Negro completely
endorses these findings.

Alright, back to Joong's schizophrenic, racist ramblings. Aaaand I'm instantly reminded why I hate doing this in my phone.

>>84859790
INxoxo
>Do you ever worry you're doing the right thing for the wrong reasons?
I don't believe such a thing is possible. Men gather not grapes from the bramble, nor figs from the thorns, and each man brings forths from the abundance of his heart,
>Do you ever feel like you might have gone too far in a few places?
Sometimes. More often i feel like i haven't gone far enough.
>How do you handle guilt?
With class and style, i assume, but i don't really know. Although there's much i regret, there's nothing i really feel guilty for. I've never been in a position from which guilt can arise. The flip side of that is that i'm not proud of anything either. I've not done anything with my life so far.
>Secret
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35DSdw7dHjs
>>84860616
I read them, but i don't know if it can be said i appreciate them.

>your mbti type
>how often do you brush your teeth
>What's your favorite way to stay physically active

>>84865554
From this basic fact of the psychic realism and
autonomy of the image vis-a-vis the autonomy of the sense-perception
springs the belief in spirits, and not from any need of explanation on the
part of the primitive, which is merely imputed to him by Europeans. For the
primitive, thought is visionary and auditory, hence it also has the character
of revelation. Thus the sorcerer, the visionary, is always the thinker of the
tribe, who brings about the manifestation of the spirits or gods. This also
explains the magical effect of thought; it is as good as the deed, just
because it is real. In the same way the word, the outer covering of thought,
has a "real" effect because it calls up "real" memory-images. Primitive
superstition surprises us only because we have largely succeeded in de-
sensualizing the psychic image; we have learnt to think abstractly-always,
of course, with the above-mentioned limitations. Nevertheless, as anybody
who is engaged in the practice of analytical psychology knows, even
"educated" European patients constantly need reminding that thinking is
not doing-one patient because he believes that to think something is
enough, another because he feels he must not think something or he would
immediately have to go and do it.

Yes that was all one "paragraph". But basically
>"it was real in my mind" t. a black person
T. Jong
Interesting that he's so dismissive of ghosts and spirits here you'd think he'd be all into that shit himself, but on the other hand he is also a raging neck beard at this point so maybe he only saw the ability to capitalize on pretending to believe in the woo later in life. Inside the Jung there are two wolves.

>>84865590
>>your mbti type
INFP
>>how often do you brush your teeth
In the morning and before bed
>>What's your favorite way to stay physically active
I just walk everywhere.

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Got too caught up in the entertainment part.
At least there was some sort of insight to be gained about Thinking and Feeling I guess. A lot of this discussion boils down to locating the absolute value in either one or the other.

>>84865487
>Except, I didn't fail to infer any context.
[citation needed]
>Talk about failing to infer context.
Indeed, you failed to notice it's a joke answer.
>No, by trying to force people to adhere to your belief system of what is an "on topic/valid/jungian post".
And how am I supposed to be doing that? All I can do is having my opinions about it and occasionally voice them. Deal with it fag.
>Call it a hunch, and intuitive observation, if you will.
Think I will call it "making shit up and projecting", thank you very much.
>You do have the right to virtue signal. Yes. But, it does make you a faggot. So... You know.
Thanks, you too!
>You don't get to common ground by telling people they're wrong.
If you were to stop at that, sure. The next action would be setting the common ground in question, usually by showing that we are talking about something said by the man himself, and we should begin from that.
>You obviously cannot contend with the point that's being made.
Then say something different? My best guess is disagreeing to form, and you could have just said "you have to be nicer about it" in that case.

>>Everyone is possessed by this same archetype
It was a semantic point. It's easy to argue that everyone finds their morality superior, even if you literally claim otheriwise(in that case, you are superior in being more humble).

>>84865522
>"um anon you are supposed to do a subtraction", if not to alter their behavior and get them to do the operation in a different way?
Ironic, you pointed exactly where I was getting at.
In a discussion about math, why wouldn't somebody point out a mistake in an equation? What is the point of the entire discussion, just spitting numbers at random?

>>84865554
Finally an excuse to leave this!

>>84865436
The absolute value of 38-27 and 38+27 is the same.

>>84865649
I guess twisting the question is also something one can do.

this is the most spirited and lively I've ever seen curefriend :) he's having fun

>>84865649
No??? |38-27| = |38|-|27|

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>>84865669
Sometimes it's fun to become your own type's stereotype, but I also hate it at the same time.
Why is the Feeling function such a meme in myself, anyways?

>>84865591
>we have learned to think abstractly
What if I showed you evidence of the contrary ITT?

>>84865676
Relative to 38, obviously.

>>84865776
Why would it be relative to 38 instead of zero?

>>84865695
>Why is the Feeling function such a meme in myself, anyways?
idk what do you mean

>>84865763
Nah you're all pretty good at thinking abstractly here. But sure, feel free to demonstrate otherwise

>>84865590
Extraverted INFP
I brush my teeth every few days
I go zoom zoom on my bicycle home from work when I get the chance.

>>84865810
Consciously I feel one way, but unconsciously it's the other way. And the behavior resulting from it can be inconsistent. That points at an only partially differentiated function.

>>84865825
>Extraverted INFP
What did he mean by this.
As in, neurotic INFP?
INFP in MBTI but socially outward?
Jungian Extravert but MBTI introvert?
Or pure feeloidism?

>>84865862
Infp by letters, but I was told here I'm an extravert

How come there's never any psychological news anymore? It feels like we're all wallowing in the same rehydrated shit we were 10 years ago. Surely something must have happened in the psychological world in the last 10 years? Where is it?

Psychology is dead and we have killed it, (you) and I.

But seriously, the field is hopeless nowadays. Between CBT and neurology claiming it, along with therapy being designed around encouraging transference and keeping it rather than having to eventually break it - it's never been more over. Also take your pills, because fuck actually treating anything, psychology is only about inhibition and making you a drug addict apparently.

Disclaimer: The fact that CBT shares its initials with cock-and-ball torture is NOT accidental

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Hop in for just a second, bae? I won't let you die, just some heat blisters! Come onnn, so I can mixxx some of your essences together in a perfume oillll

>>84866124
>>84866124
I trust you!

I've always wanted to try magic. I would be delighted to help you!

>>84866124
Anything for you. Do it I would. It looks dark though, can I bring a nightlight and a cuddly toy?

>>84866237
https://files.catbox.moe/zisnel.mov
Oh, but I must insist on darkness so the Flames can shine through! A slow blue will do the trick without taking the life from your lungs <3 Just enough for a small potion vial ! ~

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>>84866137
Trust is essential, darling, you're such a good student!

>>84866160
The Seer recognizing Craft in action! Tally ho!

>>84866337
I like the monkey!

What did we do to live in a world with one so lovely?

We got lucky is all.

Well I'm glad we did, I'm glad we did.

>>84866393
Monogram oo-oo-aa-aah it is! I'll even let you wear matching gloves and socks so your delicate fingerpads and soles don't get all sizzled up, they don't make good juice anyways! No, you can crouch and it'll feel like you tripped and skinned your knee is all. A little too overeager chasing after the ice cream truck and a wonky curb at the wrong place at the right time. We can even get you real ice cream afterwards

>>84865629
>[citation needed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7l0Rq9E8MY
>Indeed, you failed to notice it's a joke answer.
You've triggered my trap card:
Nou.
That's literally why I parodied your previous response.
>And how am I supposed to be doing that?
By acting in such a way that is an attempt to produce a one sided general which represses and excludes the opposing side of the field that you deem to be unacceptable, undesirable and "degenerate"; by your own words.
>The next action would be setting the common ground in question
Maybe that's what you think you do, or what you'd do in an ideal situation. But, in actuality, it's not. But, that's an aside from the point I'm making.
>Then say something different?
How about put some effort into understanding the point at hand? Instead of trying to strawman it into something you can easily pick apart in order to maintain your ego centric position of being right.


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>>84865629
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Start of effort-post.
>and you could have just said "you have to be nicer about it" in that case.
If my point was the manner in which you approach the situation, I could say that. But that's not my point. You could approach the situation as nice as possible, it still wouldn't change the fact that you're attempting to control the people's attitudes and shift their perspective to align with yours because you deem theirs to be "wrong think" and your own to be "right think". It's quite onionian (UnJungian) to do so.

Again, the problem is not how to handle any given situation, or that you call someone a faggot retard, I don't care. It's your attempt at creating a one sided discussion which eliminates things you deem to be "bad/wrong/disagreeable/degenerate/etc."
Even in this discussion, I'm not telling you to stop doing that. I'm telling you that it's creating the outcome that you're trying to avoid. The enantiodromia of effort-posting to socialfagging will be by your own hand.

The real Jungian perspective would be to contend with the opposing perspectives and realizing that even socialfags, or people interpreting things through a slightly differing lens are not wrong, and they're still on topic and true to Jungian ideas. Which is specifically the Jungian process of exploration of the psyche, not a rigid imposition of dogmatic definitions that are to be followed to the letter.
And by contend, I don't mean "battle" in which you say "No, you're wrong." Because that's simply repression of an opposing attitude in the shared psyche that is this thread. If you start from "you're wrong" you've immediately failed to hold the tension of the opposing perspectives.

>>84866083
https://www.psypost.org/neuroscientists-discover-previously-unknown-cognitive-benefits-of-reading-physical-books/

https://spacedaily.com/d-soren-kierkegaard-suggested-that-the-deepest-form-of-despair-is-not-unhappiness-but-the-failure-to-become-the-self-you-were-quietly-meant-to-be-a-despair-so-subtle-that-most-people-who-carry/

yw

>>84865629
I have an immediate recollection of you doing your standard move set when Anonzzle said something like "Nominalism is sensation" if I remember correctly, from a few weks back. And your immediate move was to dismiss the idea as wrong, and attempt to shoehorn in your own interpretation to replace it.
You didn't attempt to understand what was being expressed before declaring it wrong and replacing it with your own interpretation. That is not how you get to a middle ground. That is not how you get to a place where people effortpost.

>In a discussion about math
Ironically, you're proving my point. This isn't a discussion about math for one, it's a bad anology.
And secondly, invert your question:
>why wouldn't somebody point out a mistake in an equation?
Why WOULD someone point out a mistake? What is the goal of that?

Why am *I* pointing to your mistakes? What is the aim my actions? What am I hoping that you take from my criticism of your actions/perspective?
I'm not doing it because I want you to shut up and stop talking. I want you to take the Jungian perspective that you proport to hold and actually integrate it into your actions and your conscious ego attitude.

Like, genuinely, reflect on your actions and the consequences of your own attitude and its desire to eliminate the "unclean" opposing attitudes, whether those attitudes be the socialfags or the people whose interpretations don't align with yours 1:1.

Or, if I was to condense 4000 words into an aphorism:
>A tyrant breeds his usurpers.

Oh, wait, I already said that!

Mwhahaha, yessss, join us curie, become anti-jung

Don't join the dark side
Or the light side.

Join the integrated side.

>t. Joongist
Bad things are obviously bad. They don't desert the same respect as good things. They are shit, and everyone telling you to integrate them is telling you to literally eat your own shit. Jung himself was a nasty little gremlin, eating his own faeces didn't make him nice or kind.

I want to play video games but not the video games I'm playing right now.

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Ahh, this came from within me so surely it must have great value! It might be dark and nutty but murky depths of the toilet bowl aren't good enough for anything that came from me. I have to find a way to bring this back up top and into the light for everyone to see. If anyone criticizes me I'll just tell them they need to do their own shitdow sowrk. You can't knock something until you've tried it after all. They just can't get it until they've reached my level. *Salivates*

Indishituation

>>84867457
What sort of games do you want to play? What game are you playing? Is it an availability issue, a hard wear issue or an imagination issue?

>>84867533
>What sort of games do you want to play
Something fun maybe.
>What game are you playing?
Not the ones I want to play.
>Is it an availability issue, a hard wear issue or an imagination issue
Idk.

>>84867548
Have you tried installing the Equestria at War mod for Hearts of Iron 4? That's a fun game. Still waiting for the Equus revamp though so it's in a bit of a liminal space right now.

>>84867572
No but I've played civ 6. I'm not allowed to play that one anymore though because I ended up playing for hours at a time.

>>84867592
Oh well I mean you want something that's fun but doesn't take up all your time, hmmmm. I've been enjoying playing Tomb Raider every now and again recently. Maybe dig up some old classics that have a beginning and an end. Nintendo switch online was mentioned the other day and that has Kirby and the crystal shards on it. That's a good 6 hours or whatever

Also Mewgenics is good for 1-3 hours at a time if you can get over the gross poop factor. At least until you get to the stage I'm at where I have too many cats and the stages feel progressively more aimless and half baked so it's a chore to play even for that long

>>84867612
>Nintendo switch online
I was just looking through there but I didn't want to start a long single player campaign.

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>>84867497
Funny enough, and quite paradoxically, Jung would probably agree with the sentiment you're putting forward.
What you're describing is not integration, but someone who has mistaken their neurotic compensation for enlightenment and borrowed psychology words to morally elevate themselves above other people to avoid criticism.

Jungianly speaking, that's inflation. Not individuation. Valid critique, incorrect terminology.

>>84867637
But why not? You know there's a save function right? Anyway panel de pon for the SNES is fun if you like Tetris likes, there's a cute puzzle mode where you have as long as you like find the right series of moves from like a pre-built setup. I think it's the third option down in 1p the one that isn't get under the line or vs mode. It's all in Japanese though and looks like this but you don't gotta read to play these games. There's always streets of rage 2 in the sega section if you haven't played that in a while.

Katamari Damacy is also a unique experience on the switch because of motion controls but it looks like it isn't on sale, and you should never pay more than 5 dollars for it.

>>84867713
>Someone who has mistaken their neurotic compensation for enlightenment and borrowed psychology words to morally elevate themselves above other people to avoid criticism.
Pah! Like anyone around here would do that! But what actually is the difference between that and individuation?

It seems impossible to be a jungian and not to some extent glorify and excuse the shadow. Both in practice and in theory. Joongists aren't capable of doing it, but it's not really their fault when the system is rigged in such a way that you're expected to come to terms with the dark parts of yourself? The human thing to do is to make up dark parts to overcome for a start.

>>84867735
Bah!! I know, right? NOBODY around here would do that!
>But what actually is the difference between that and individuation?
The difference is that individuation is a process of "coming to terms" with the aspects of oneself, but not identifying with them or treating the impulses as some sort of authority.
>>84867774
It's very UnJungian to glorify your shadow. There's a very stark contrast between glorifying it, and recognizing its existence.

>>84867809
>There's a very stark contrast between glorifying it, and recognizing its existence.
It seems a fine line to me. By saying it is there you are at least validating it. You're saying it *should* be there. But Joong doesn't stop at that now either does he? He says that it's necessary to integrate it to be a complete person. Someone could be born an angel and that wouldn't be enough for the Joongists, he'd have to find some darkness within himself and accept that darkness to be even goodererer. As such all jungites end up as edgy twisted donut steal Tumblrites that are also rapists. Because that makes them better than perfect angels, really. I don't know how you can't see the problem here.

At the very least he says there is a bit of good in the darkness or something. I find this to be repulsive personally. There is good in the good. Where it is located is purely coincidental, even if that happens to be in the darkness. And no, I'm not going to be suspicious of the good just because "oooh it's gotta have a bit of darkness though or it's not real good" reeeeeeee

>>84867886
>By saying it is there you are at least validating it.
You have to be clear on what you mean by "validating". It's not a matter of whether or not it should or shouldn't exist. It does exist.
The Jungian position isn't that "darkness must be added". It's that it exists. He's saying that "one sided goodness produces an unconscious shadow that will eventually assert itself."
Which is like saying "the identity of 'pure angel' would create the conditions for the unconscious compensatory contents within the psyche." It's something you can observe in people.

Jung also doesn't dismiss the idea that some things are truly good. There are in fact, truly good things. But psychological identification with those good things is psychologically unstable.
>I don't know how you can't see the problem here.
I see a problem, and it's mostly that you're not describing Jungians or Jungian beliefs. Jung doesn't put forward the idea that "good things are secretly morally contaminated."

>>84868155

How doesn't
>"the identity of 'pure angel' would create the conditions for the unconscious compensatory contents within the psyche."
Correlate with
>"good things are secretly morally contaminated."
If something good causes the conditions for """""compensatory forces""""" then how is that not the same thing as being contaminated?

But regardless the broader problem is that you're presupposing the shadow as something that is there before you look to see if it is. Or even have a reason to look to see if it is. Under the jungian framework nothing can ever be good, or OK, it must be harboring a secret shadow. If you're a psychologist with this outlook then it's just as likely that you'll hallucinate a shadow as actually find something that's a problem. It reminds me of original sin. You decide that there is something wrong before even looking to see what's there. This is a glorification if the shadow. Making it appear powerful inescapable and everywhere.

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>>84867735
>But what actually is the difference between that and individuation?
No difference. Both are a waste of time for the bored poors. Some take the latter so seriously they wear a participation badge of it. "I SURVIVED PSYCHOLOGICAL HOLOHOAX, HYLICGOYIM (inflicted by myself so no risks were present btw)"

>>84868383
Goooood morning. You get up early don't you. Staying wise?

>>84867163
It was "transubstantiation is an example of introverted sensing"
https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/84732768/#q84756415

>>84868327
Because, simply put, a person isn't entirely good. Not that the good is contaminated. The psyche contains both good aspects and bad. And a person who identifies with/as one or the other is excluding the opposite and pushing it into the shadow.

Jung is making structural claims about psychological dynamics. Not making moral claims about people or the existence of good or evil.
>Under the jungian framework nothing can ever be good
No. That's not correct at all. It's only true if you assume the shadow is "bad". Which does not align with Jung at all.
The shadow isn't bad or evil, it's just what isn't attended to consciously, and it can even contain good aspects.

If you believe you're a total piece of shit who has never done anything good in your entire life, your shadow contains all the good things you've ever done.
Likewise, if you believe you're the nicest person on the planet and you'd never harm even a fly, your shadow contains that one time you called anon a faggot and all those other times you were mean.

This is all he's talking about. Everyone, not everything, contains a shadow. Because that's the structure of the psyche. You will exclude things from your ego identity, and those things will accrue in your shadow. Saying or believing "I'm a nice person!" doesn't delete all the mean things you've ever done from your psyche, it just excludes them from your conscious attention.
anyway, I'm going to bed now.

>>84868446
Ah, yes, yes. Thank you. I was going to correct that because it came to me in the shadow (Freudian slip (?) that I'm leaving in, I meant shower). And I forgot to correct it after I got out.

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It's really amazing how elaborate of a plot one can weave to cope with being called wrong on the internet, that was certainly exceptional in a way. Now we reached the point where calling out stupid bullshit as you see it must clearly be a failure to integrate the shadow and being some sort of control freak.
This guy probably thought that when his teachers tried to teach him subtraction and pointed out he was incorrectly performing a different operation or getting a different result, they were all secretely oppressing him with their own unintegrated tyrannical one-sidedness. Pah! They should have read Jung to understand that no one can be right about anything, so no one is wrong about anything, and thus I can't ever be wrong, you should have just listened to my excus-- ahem, profound reasons for why I think you shouldn't subtract numbers when you are asked to do subtraction.

A textbook example of how you shouldn't use psychology, Jungian or not. Thank you for providing us a clear picture of what to not do.

>>84867111
Huh?

>>84867457
Clearly you want to play TSS.

>>84867774
Other anon already explained enough, but let me quick add that what's rigged is not the system, but rather humanity itself.
Jungian psychology is just about recognizing this fact, at the end of the day. All you can do about it is to bring up the "evil thoughts" in conscious awareness and maybe use them in a way that's not evil, such as writing a cool fictional murder out of your murderous thoughts rather than suddenly killing somebody IRL while possessed by the shadow.

Also, further reminder that the unconscious psyche doesn't know good and evil, that's something imposed by ego-consciousness. Is that a bad thing? Not really, you are supposed to have a morality and you kinda need it to live in a functional society, but it would be better for you to avoid a total identification. Never go full into the "I never think anything evil!" retardation.

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>>84865158
>>84865175
>>84865350
How old are
>TE
>Rxy
>ENFJ-senpai
>ESFP-T
>Melascula
>ISFP Sophie Hater
>Prince
>Megumin
>Lich
>Movie Anon
>anyone else that should be listed here

allright. that's night shifting over. i can get curled back up in the warmth of a certain proverbial lap and maybe make an actual contribution or two when i wake up. yay!

>>84869107
>Turbie Enjoyer
29
>Rxy
26
>ENFJ-senpai
33
>ESFP-T
Late 20s
>Melascula
28
>ISFP Sophie Hater
29
>Prince
30
>Megumin
23
>Lich
42
>Movie Anon
31
>Mosley
25

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>>84867774
The hell do you mean by that.

>>84866083
Skill issue (no further elaboration provided)

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>>84869422
Co-op skill issue, even.
But it's ok, entantiodromia in two more weeks. The skill issues always go both ways eventually.

Speaking of the shadow, there was a cool definition that I could use for an analogy here.

>"Differentiated" means aristocratic, different, independent, and that is the quality of the aristocratic superior function.
[...]
>If you understand your inferior function, you understand the collective lower man, because your inferior function is exceedingly collective. It is unconscious, archaic, with all the vices and all the virtues of the collective man; therefore it is always projected.
>The mob is merely an accumulation of archaic individuals, yet it is a true analogy to your inferior function. That is the reason why we have such a resistance against the inferior function; we have the feeling of being soiled-even our feeling of cleanliness is against it.

So imagine it that way:
If you meet a haughty ojou-sama, do you think she has nothing in common with the plebs? That she is nothing but her own nobility and there is no girl with her typical common girl things behind it? She would certainly want you to believe that, and she would want to believe it herself, but the truth is that she has the shadow of the common girl within her too.
There's nothing evil about that ontologically-speaking, but it's very much the conflict between her noble Ego and the plebian Shadow she's trying to differentiate out of.

Jung has way too much fun DEFINING words, what a terminal case of "aristocratic" thinkoidism...

>>84865590
>>your mbti type
ESFP-T
>>how often do you brush your teeth
Twice a day.
>>What's your favorite way to stay physically active
Swimming.

>When the missionary asked the negro chief about the difference between good and evil, he said, "It is bad when my enemy takes my women and it is good when I take his."
Also presented without comment.

https://youtu.be/BOWOxNkUaY4

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>>84870048
>mbti type
>favorite flower
>best or favorite gift someone's gotten you
>what gift did you have the most fun choosing for someone else
>what are you looking forward to most this summer
>last book or movie you really enjoyed

>>84871863
isfp
only gay people like flowers
only gay people like gifts
i don't get people gifts
nothing it's just another dumb summer
don't like anything

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>>84869692
Why are you playing kids' tutor on this board?

>>84871863
>>favorite flower
Whatever that's on the roadside and catches my attention.

>>84871978
I would think that making on-topic posts that explain the basics of Jung in clear language is a good thing.

>>84871863
>>mbti type
ESFP-T
>>favorite flower
Tulip
>>best or favorite gift someone's gotten you
Oh, I couldn't begin to even narrow it down.
>>what gift did you have the most fun choosing for someone else
Maybe doesn't answer question, but on a whim I bought Satisfactory for my ESFJ and I didn't see him for the next two months. : )
>>what are you looking forward to most this summer
Every day.
>>last book or movie you really enjoyed
Other than the weird tonal shift at the end, I really enjoyed Weapons.

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>>84872035
>I would think that making on-topic posts
Do it elsewhere, the droolers around the (t/pr)eaching make for bad comedy, if you haven't noticed.

I like cure-anon teaching here. Surely you two can share

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>>84872874
Evidently you don't since no engagement got him into pressure to work with the material deeper. Low level parasite, you.

>your mbti
>ur fav snacks
>what is one of your non negotiables?

are curefag and patchy dating

Is this lilac
https://litter.catbox.moe/g5qt1r.mp3

>>84873185
You have to ask her fan club. They say the President of her fan club can identify all of her accents, disguises, and voices.

Lilac is a good girl.

>>84873078
They're just competing for centy's approval. catfights can get viscious

>>84873397
literally every reg is in love with centaur

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Guuhh, my head hurts a lil but I'll make it.

Solstice tonightmo morning. Looking like visibility for the sunrise might be OK. I'm sure I'll make it out, even if I have become more afraid of the dark in recent years.

>>84873021
>your mbti
*Pulls fruit machine lever*
ENTJ
>ur fav snacks
Humous, honey and crisps.
>what is one of your non negotiables?
The freedom to pick my nose and eat it!

I actually flipped the closest coin 4 times and it ended up being a 1995 Isle of Man 20p. I'm so lucky!

>>84873536
I don't know why but I feel like Homer Simpson reading your quaint British excerpts.