Why are vegans (at least online) so insistent on pushing it? I've lived on a farm and most farmers who aren't corporate robots love their animals immensely and want them to have the best life possible until they get turned into meat. But vegans online act as if they're all psychopaths who are waiting until they can kill them by beating them to death or something.
>>84861424Thats bullshit. It just so happens that for whatever type of livestock farmer you are (I'm guessing lamb beef or milk, especially milk) it just so happens that "best quality of life directly correlates with best prices at market". Cows that have an econimically profitable quakity of life produce more milk. That's the reason. It's also the reason why chickens live in hell. Because egg production profitability is maximized by cost cutting, same with broiler farming. And they employ the lowest cost migrants to break their legs and slam them into cages for transport. The meat animals go in holocaust trucks to get bolted through the head and bled out. This isn't "happy", it's brutal violent economic exploitation of another sentient being. You produce capital off their death, specifically their death if you're a meat farmer. Their corpses is what you produce and you hide behind "happy" because it just so coincidentally coincides with profit margin. Happy steers make good weight with good grass. "Happy" (followed by bolt gun to head then body degraded and exploited and consumed and turned into shit). If it was more profitable to jam veal heads between two pieces of wood, you'd be doing it. Tender meat is profitable meat. But thankfully the government outlawed it. And greyhound racing. Because dogs trained to run and doped to the gills until their limbs break and they die on track after being trained live baiting, aren't happy. But their trainers sure thought so! Greyhounds are natural sprinters! They love it!!You're a disingenuous fuck. You wouldn't call your child happy if you specifically fed it to gain weight to sell its dead corpse to be eaten. You'd be revolted. Yes an animal is not a human child but you have been encultured within a meat eating world where abberhance and immorality is normalized and justified. Animals deserve dignity, as they are sentient creatures like us. Getting killed for profit then eaten and turned into shit isn't dignity.
>>84861518I would happily butcher and eat you, if I couldn't get beef.
>>84861518factory farming is disgusting but what do you want people to do with the millions of cows in the world? it's a business.
>>84861552>but what about
>>84861567>humans shouldn't be able to enjoy bacon even if it's ethical
>>84861424I have a vegan friend, and she's never once pushed it on me or been obnoxious about it.
>>84861552Antinatalism for all animals selectively bred for human use killing and exploitation. These aren't "natural" animals and only various feral forms can exist in these decrepit states in the wild (eg feral hog things). Stop breeding them into existence. Their lives are not worth living. This also applies to all pets, and all animals for vivisection.
>>84862536They enjoy a good life and then we eat them. Sounds good to me
>>84861518Why would animals need dignity? Or freedom in that case? They are biologically incapable of utilizing either because they have instincts that command their every move. They are already slaves by biology. Animals and dignity are basically antonyms. When a human loses dignity we compare them to animals.
>>84861424I am really only against mass factory farming (and glyphosate infused crops for that matter) but without those things you would have to massively reduce the human population
>>84862536I would be against the creation of house cats and dogs but now that they're here they should stay.
>>84862536I propose you imagine the situation:A higher level beings of aliens appear on our planet. They say that all this time they have been cultivating the earth to just breed human for whatever reason beyond your comprehension. But now they had a grand meeting and decided that actually humans are unhappy in their natural habitat they are bred for, look at depression stats, so there are activating mass sterilization programmed and no human ever is going to have kids now.Now I won't even bother to ask on your opinion, I know you will cheer on such situation. That is because anti natalism in general is your real stance, not anti-cruelty. You are fucked in the head. Low key jews are already doing it all to the world and most people are mad and seething. Reproduction is the most basic drive of all the living and forcing them not to, is in fact cruelty. If you hate life so badly, just kindly kill yourself and give space to those who do want to live.
>>84861424>vegans are out of touch city slickersthat's all you need to know
>>84861424Some vegans are vegan for moral reasons, so they feel compelled to take action or at least push their ideology to others. Same with pro life people, you'll notice that if you say anything about abortion there's always at least one person who will get pissy and feel like they need to moralise to you about life beginning at first nut or whatever
>>84861424I believe they don't want you to get fucked with cancer caused by toxic food and violence (even indirect) against God's beings.
