I hate that no one actually picks up a pencil these days, /v/ is full of ai art slop and so are many other boards. They act like learning to draw is a completely useless endeavor when learning art is literally one of most self rewarding things in existence.
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>>84883310When I was younger I really liked drawing and I would draw characters from shows I liked and some OCs, but I never got anywhere as good as the usual twitter artists, never developed a style, nothing like that. I tried getting back to it again, but then I just basically doodled everyday and my art sucked balls so I just stopped. So I guess art is just not for me.
>>84883310I can draw decently, but I've never been into it. I'm more into 3D art, programming, and gamedev. Though I think I should start practicing my 2D some more for creating better painterly 3D textures.
>>84883310I do care about art in some sense, but find most of what passes as art to be very subpar. I suppose I could try to learn though, I'm just a contrarian ass. picrel causes /co/ to shit themselves in fear btw
>>84883310what do you draw? post some of your art. i've been trying to draw and paint recently but its hard and im no good. i want to paint trees.
>>84883310I've always wanted to draw manga and illustrations, but I don't even know where to begin.I don't have any with me right now but I'm rather decent at drawing from reference, I'd say. Sometimes I'm bored and sketch some objects I see. And while obvioulsy not perfect, I think my proportions and perspectives are not off. I can copy artworks from reference (not tracing) fine too, I guess...But I know these are drills, at best.If anon is feeling helpful and could point how to learn manga for real, I'd appreciate it. /ic/ was not helpful...
>>84883444My art atm is too bad to post. Maybe ill post something another timr but right now I cant in good faith
I do sometimes but not always
>>84883470/ic/ never is helpful. All they do is just jerk off all the namefags. Try to ask for help, critique, redline, you don't get shit.Fuck them.
>>84883310It's just one of another many things they want to automate. Writing, drawing, coding...
>>84883310I've always wanted to learn how to (oil) paint. I feel like I could just keep repainting over what I already painted until it's not shitty anymore. Will that work?
>>84883310I tried to learn guitar a few years ago after dreaming of it for the first 17 years of my life thinking this would be my passion. I tried it for maybe 2 months and the disinterest caused so much shame I wanted to kill myself. I'll listen to some shit like the Kinks or Alice in Chains and feel unbelievable euphoria like art is the pinnacle of existence, but when I'm in a neutral state, forced to work, I don't see the point in anything. There have been several AI generated short stories that won awards and I've jerked off to countless AI porn videos. The machines can simply do it better. This feels like hell, cucked by a fucking robot. Why try? When everything is pointless?
>>84883931Well then maybe it's not for you? Machines really can't always do it better, machines really only have one major advantage, which is scale. So, really, you have to find a way to make something unique enough that it makes people willing to seek it out.
>>84883470>but I don't even know where to begin.I usually look at something I like looking at and try to replicate it, though I feel I'm not critical enough of my drawings, so I might be enjoying it more than you could> /ic/ was not helpful...only their sticky is or can be
>>84884101Yeah, i know music obviously isn't for me. The question is what is? I've tried my hand at drawing as well as writing and I'm incompetent at everything I do. I crave a purpose larger than working to pay the bills and sustaining my embarrassing existence. I think I'm a genuine NPC. Nothing goes my way.
>>84883310I love to go on gelbooru and stuff and save fanart. I wish I could draw. I've tried before but was lame at it. It's just the amount of time you need to practice intimidates me.
People be like "fuck AI ART anD MUSIC!!!" then turn around and act disgusted about learning it and also will shit on art adjacent things and act like art is meaningless IRL."we dont need art bro, all we need are engineers and doctors"As they watch a retarded artist stream 24/7 on Twitch and everything they wear and have in their house was designed by an artist.
>>84884377>It's just the amount of time you need to practice intimidates me.there's no set threshold where you learn or do not (unless you're drawing so rarely you forget everything)it's simply more practice = faster learning, with some time to analyze and rethink your practice>but was lame at it.it's easier to bear it if you compare your freshest drawing with the previous one instead of having no reference to judge
>>84883310I would like to draw so many things. I want to draw castles, cities, buildings, characters. But the problem is that I have no vision, I only know the categories I would like to draw, not the actual drawings. I have no creativity. And I want to kill myself because of it.
>>84884393I don't know whose contradicting opinions you're exposing because I've never seen anyone say both of these things
>>84884404I shouldn't have posted that in this tread, people in here seem to be positive towards art. People on other platforms though, holy shit.Not only that, the actual art boards like /3/ are completely dead.Anyway I think a lot of people in here should try sculpting, fuck drawing. It's much more tactile and you don't need to worry about lines constantly.
>>84883310drawing is the only thing that gives me proper satisfaction, Its like meditation. I've been trying to make songs but the songs kinda suck. >>84883931>the Kinks based, what are your favourite songs?
>>84883310>learning art is literally one of most self rewarding things in existence.That is only the case if you actually enjoy the process. Most people don't. They want results and will used whatever tool gives them results the fastest, which currently is AI generation. With something like drawing it takes 2 to 4 years of consistent structured practice to be able to draw anything even remotely competently. If you don't already enjoy the process that is way too much effort just to make a throw away shit post or create a visual manifestation of a joke. And don't get me started on how long it takes to get to a professional standard. So yeah, for the vast majority it's just not worth it at all. They rather dump their free time into something they do find satisfying.
>>84884417>try sculptingthis but your own body
>>84884429years or months?better question, what is "remotely competently"? if you mean something that will give you money then I guess, yeah
>>84884458>years or months?Years. >if you mean something that will give you money then I guess, yeahThat is professional level and takes 8 to 10 years of consistent structured practice, not 2 to 4 years. Drawing is not a easy skill if starting from scratch. >what is "remotely competently"?To draw something accurately and as it's intended without short cuts or abstraction. Draftsmanship. If your standards are stick figures or extremely simplistic cartoony blobs then sure, you might get away with a single year or less of consistent practice, but that isn't what is being talked about.
Stick figures = teaches proportion.Tracing over stuff = teaches shading.When I first started drawing I started really small and with stick figures and focused on proportions instead of details. When I started getting better I completely stopped caring about authenticity and started tracing shit so I could learn how to shade much more easily.That's where shit like drawing on top of a lightbox comes in so you can actually see what youre doing, animators draw on lightboxes, the oldschool 2d ones anyway.
>>84884402I would like to draw cities with old, ornate architecture or beautiful sights, like Altissia in FFXV, or old castles with meaningful art in their architecture. Or just anime girls. Ugh, I wish I could.
For cities get used to using a ruler and stencils. I think people approach drawing like a sport, it isn't, you can use tools, there aren't any rules, you should use tools.
>>84884519>That is professional*furries on deviantart with bad spending habits block your path*
>>84884560You don't wanna be that person though, trust me. I get enough shit just for using base bodies with big tits to make my outfits, imagine being a shitty furrie slop artist. You would be embarrassed any time anyone in the real world inquired.
>>84884568for easy money you pay with soul if you can't spare efforts
>>84884576in the 3D art world our version of this is making Roblox slop for children.We're in 2026 and high res 3D shit has never been this accessible, so to be doing 2 polygon Roblox stuff is like high treason.
>>84883378Same here, I'm going to use AI from now on to draw lewds of my OC and my 8 husbandos.
>>84884594>my OC and my 8 husbandosjust how many holes your OC has?
>>84884421>favorite songsRosy Won't You Please Come Home by a mile. Definitely the best song ever made. I also like Set Me Free and Wicked Annabella.
If you didn't learn how to draw by the time you're 16, you're fucked and the best you'll do is copying off others. Same thing with learning an instrument as well. It's just how the human brain works. Once you're an adult your programming is complete and trying to shift skillets and talents like that is a herculean task, if possible at all.AI provided people an outlet for imagination they always had but don't have the skills developed necessary to express but I think by proxy, eliminated the point in learning the object beyond sheer self satisfaction.
>>84884741I dunno about all that but it's hard for me to refute because I learned how to draw and play an instrument before I was 16.I didn't start 3D sculpting until I hit 30, but drawing transfers into this so I dunno. Plus I had a shit ton of experience on Photoshop when I was younger so learning software UIs is extremely easy for me.Yeah hard for me to refute, someone else would have to.
>>84883317Not very nice of you fag ...
>>84883310I will start learning just for you anon, I need a hobby anyways I just lost my job
>>84884762As someone who has tried to get into 3D modeling twice. Knowing how to draw is practically necessary unless you're fine with using other people's template for things.
>>84883310it's literally the dumbest time ever to learn to draw
>>84884779Ehhhh, kinda. But yeah knowing how to draw is like a gigantic fucking head start, I can't refute that.
>>84884741>>84884762Impossible to refute. Marx and Hegel already proved life is circumstantial and free will doesn't exist. If you weren't raised properly, you'll suffer.
>>84884802Oh my god shut your ass up. Killing the vibe.
>>84884811What do you mean? Philosophy is art the same as anything else. Plato and Aristotle's metaphysics require a creative mind. Nietzsche is like an anti-philosopher where everything he speaks is pure imagination. That doesn't make it useless or unimportant.
>>84884822>starts talking to themselvesOkay im out. You've gotta be that same poster who literally kills every thread with psychobabble. Goodnight.
>>84884842I think you're unwell. I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about. Take a look in the mirror before accusing others.
>>84883378just keep drawing, it doesnt matter if its shitwhen you practice something do you expect to be good at it immediately? no, youre gonna suck for a while and you will probably always find flaws in your art but it doesnt matter
>>84883310I used to really love drawing. Then life killed me and I started doing it much less frequently over the past years. It's a nice hobby, I just struggle with actually getting myself to move the pencil. Picrel is a rare collection of lazy sketches from a few days ago
>>84883310>learning art is literally one of most self rewarding things in existence.The only thing i ever felt while learning to draw was immense shame and hatred for how horrid all my drawings looked, it literally drove me to cutting myself a couple times.
