Incels are the only people who go into seething rage when you tell them you can improve your life
>>84884949pretty gr8 b8 m8 but this post is a result of you living a cushy, coddled life
>>84884967Fallacy red herring
>>84884949they rage because they're porn/masturbation addicts. if they cut it out they could retake control of their life but they choose to continue chasing the dragon
>>84884978Yes, sorry about that. I'll do better next time.
>>84884990People that can't parse correlation and causation should be gassed and buried in mass graves/dumped in the ocean.
>>84885001Don't forget people who make blanket statements.
>>84885009I think he means that they got into porn because they are dysgenic in some way? Either through not being very good at socializing, being exceptionally ugly, or just being totally inept in navigating RL in general. I could be projecting, but I feel like for some people even if they do improve it would just feel like a hollow victory, since they still hate themselves. Best they can do is just stop caring over time, but that in its self is hollow and isn't really comparable with people that are innately liked and desired. That's my take anyways.
>>84884949Promiscuous women also go into seething rage when you tell them you can improve your life.
>>84884949I don't like being lied to
>>84884967Have you tried taking a shower and going outside though?
>>84886011Have you tried to not have sex with gangsters and drug pushers?
>>84884949Funny how did you pick for op image of ugly man. Only illustrating blackpill point.Try to illustrate your point with attractive Chad image...and your post loses all bite. >ugly people badThis is your real point.
>>84884949Because you can't improve congenital traits that can't be changed. There's no gym for your height. There's no gym for your hair, and so on.
>>84886162>don't try bro>it won't work trust me broIncels choose to be incels.
>>84886221Make thread again but use an attractive man pic >>84886134
Why do improved incels make normies seeth so hard?
>>84886243because women are supposed to be the ones that fraud and date up genetically, men are supposed to either be:>gigachad, gods gift to earth and the object of female desireOR>KHHV loser who doesn't deserve sex unless he is paying for it
>>84886221You can't chose to have women not wanting us.You imply that some women are into us but we reject them which is plain wrong. If we're here thats because no women wants us.
>>84886332Because you go out of your way to make sure no woman would like you. Being an incel is a choice. Most incels are actually closeted homos.
>>84886340Not really most of us put a lot of effort in our appearance, improving our personality and becoming good partners. We cant force attraction and women just arent attracted to us.
>>84885001>can't parse correlation and causationholy shit is that why? i never stopped to think about why people believe in nofap, that's so retarded
>>84886221>>84886340>erm actually if you're an autist who grew up alienated and never learned to read women's minds (because what they say has 0 correlation with what they want) then you chose to be repulsive and are a closeted homo who does not deserve love
>>84884949I am the cel that successfully improved his life. I am fit, I run my own business, I got my own place, I have no remaining debt. None of that made me any happier. If you never got any play as a deadbeat, don't expect that to change. I personally know deadbeats who have not been single since age 13. Is it worth the effort to go from a loser deadbeat incel to a stable 401k incel? That's up to you. But you will be an incel either way.
>>84886421Yes? Incels don't actually exist. Youre probably just not interested in women and keep on rejecting them.
>>84886426>i'm an incel>i improved my life>yet i'm still unhappy? :(>0 mention of getting laid in the meantimehow did you figure out the business and not this anon? why are these things so obvious to me yet i'm struggling in every aspect of life?
>>84884949Self-improvement as a way out of inceldom has been refuted. You cannot determine outcomes outside of your own agency, including whether a woman decides to love you. So there's no reason to get mad at it, because its suggestion is a categorical error on part of the one offering it as a solution. >>84886221>Incels choose to be incels.Women choose to deprive men of intimacy. If the choice was up to men, then no man would be an incel.
>>84886433i have a crippling fear of rejection, my voice and hands tremble just to tell a woman i like her shirt, you think i can be open with asking one out in normal conditions and making physical moves? it's impossible with 99% of them who are unempathic pieces of shit like you.
women making the world a shit place by being retarded episode +inf
>>84886460>incel hyperfocuses on stacy againStop rejecting women just because they aren't supermodels
>>84886440>how did you figure out the business and not this anon?Business is not complicated. Do something that people need, do it well, and do it at an attractive price. Pick something with low overhead so you can adjust price as needed. Do something people need on a regular basis so you can have repeat customers instead of constantly hunting for new ones. All of the things you need to succeed in business are definable. Women are the exact opposite of business. You will put your best foot forward and it still won't be enough.
>>84886489never, i had stacies make the first move on me, i give it a shot, but women who make the first move tend to be controlling especially when they know they can manipulate you with their looks, and women tend to be retarded, and i hate to have to listen to a retard.anyway not that you'd know, but there's 0 going back from experiencing a stacy once, unless the woman is either really smart (dated one too, ended terribly, still the only woman i miss), or a decent-looking woman who is a good person (does not exist)
>>84886455You're a cucked bitch sitting in a hole, with your head in your hands, repeating "it's hopeless, it's hopeless" while someone has thrown a rope down next to you and is shouting to just grab the fucking rope and climb out. Incels are basically the same as ghetto niggers who claim racism is the reason they have to shoot the other nig down on the corner to steal his crack rocks.
>>84886502>Women are the exact opposite of business. You will put your best foot forward and it still won't be enough.i agree but i meant the reason for you still being unhappy, it's because you still didn't get laid. there's 0 mystery, the business or anything else obviously won't help with that.
>>84886502thanks for the advice by the way, best of luck
>>84886455See how badly of an ironically seething rage the refutation sends them (>>84886510) into?
>>84886510do you think a 5'4 incel like me could get laid? be honest
>>84886510>while someone has thrown a rope down next to you and is shouting to just grab the fucking rope and climb out.Who? And where/whats the rope?
why are the anti-incel types so dead set on "self improvement" being the answer? go on reddit and see how many posts are made by women complaining that their boyfriend of four years doesnt wipe, or all the posts about girls feeling ashamed about their obsession with the guy who cheated on them/beat them. being neurotypical and low inhibition gets you laid, being a neurotic, self obsessed sperg will at best get you respect from other spergs, at worst the attention of a girl who secretly loathes you and wants to emotionally and financially abuse you. the best answer for incels in unironically hard drugs or forms of meditation that quiet the mind in some way, thinking is the enemy, normies dont think, they act, thats why they are successful.
>>84886600You can improve your social skills, anon. Yes, even autists can. Plenty of autists have gfs. When I was younger, I was a shy autist weeaboo, and I transformed myself gradually into a muscular and moderately confident guy, which snowballed into making friends, getting laid, and getting a gf.As for shitty guys getting a gf, think of it like this - no matter how good your product is, if your advertising is bad or nonexistent, you won't get customers. If someone does a good job marketing, he'll get sales, even if the customer is ultimately dissatisfied. Meanwhile, the guy who develops the best product in the world, but never advertises it, will get zero customers.
>>84886600Litteraly just take a shower and be nice, that's all it takes. You probably rejected and ignored women meaning you have no interest in them (and are probably gay).
>>84886600>why are the anti-incel types so dead set on "self improvement" being the answer?They're retards who can only project their own experiences. See >>84886667
>>84886667Being muh sociable doesnt matter if youre ugly, poor and boring though.
>>84886675So explain what's invalid about my experience.>>84886676>uglyImprovable.>poorImprovable.>boringImprovable.
>>84886667>no matter how good your product is, if your advertising is bad or nonexistent, you won't get customersyou literally just repeated back to me what i said, you dont think. and yes i've had a girlfriend before, guess what, my advice is coming from experience. i did a bunch of drugs and was finally able to cope with talking to people and get a girlfriend. no amount of self improvement was able to get me laid. fuck you
>>84886686>So explain what's invalid about my experience.I already told you. You're projecting your own experience onto people who are not you.You're a braindead cocksucker who's too stupid to conceptualize people different to yourself.
>>84886690So you agree with me, but you're angry about it? Makes no sense. And you're saying that improving your mental health got you laid and got you a gf. Which, again, is agreeing with me.>>84886696Tell me anon, when you see someone lifting weights and gaining muscle mass, do you think that this is something that won't work for you? How about when you see someone reading a book, do you think you can't also acquire that knowledge by reading the book as well? What you're saying makes no sense.
>>84886725>What you're saying makes no sense.Of course you don't get it, you're retarded.
>>84886731Sure anon, I'm retarded. So can you explain it? Just answer the question - you see someone lifting weights, reading, meditating. Do you think that what they're doing won't work achieve the same results for you? And if so, why do you believe that? Try to communicate like an adult human.
>>84886748>So can you explain itNo. Go self improve your intelligence for a few years and come back after that. You'll get it by then.
>>84886600>why are the anti-incel types so dead set on "self improvement" being the answerDo they? >>84886243>>84886312
>>84886752So you're completely incapable of communicating like a human being. I'm starting to understand the problem here.
>>84886725>So you agree with me, but you're angry about it? Makes no sense. And you're saying that improving your mental health got you laid and got you a gf. Which, again, is agreeing with me.no youre being completely disingenuous now for the sake of your nonexistent argument. you are telling guys with bum knees that anyone can run, I am telling them to give up on that and get in a car. you said to become an anime dork or whatever and "just talk to people lmao," that has had the opposite effect for me, your faggy advice would help no one who was in my position, and your all encompassing premise is ridiculous. i genuinely hope you kill yourself. you are a vile annoying loser and the world needs less people like you.
>>84886765Never said that, but I can certainly see the effects of the drugs you've taken.
>>84886780i am more human than you will ever be.
>>84886783Considering you lack the sort of basic reading comprehension I had as a 12 year old, I really doubt that.
>>84886796wow, what a snarky, reddit tier response. i can see the effect the epic animes have had on you. life is an isekai! woohoo!
jewish demoralization thread.
>>84886804I haven't watched anime in almost 20 years, anon.
>>84886690>i did a bunch of drugswhich ones anon
>>84886812maybe you should, i think you would still love it. seems right up your alley.
>>84886814meth, fentanyl, heroin, cocaine, ayahuasca, LSD, datura, molly
>>84886821sweet a glowie thread
>>84886814anything that causes the production of serotonin, shrooms, mdma, etc. would also recommend NAC
>>84886814I would usually take poppers before my grindr hookups, they really opened my mind (and my ass).
>>84886502Women are easier to figure out than business IMHO. It just takes a different skillset.
>>84886833Did shrooms and they do the opposite lf alcool they make me very unsociable and recluse.
>>84886917I was lying and never did shrooms or mdma, just high dose ssri and weed. sorry that happened to you anon lmao
>>84886686>ugly, improvableTheres no gym for your face and i cant afford complete plastic surgery>poor, improvableI already work 60 hours a week>boring, improvableI already go to muh hobby group and le heckin reddit salsa classes. Still boring af
>>84886926>works 60 hours a week>is poorNigger... what are you doing for work, scraping the feces off mexicans' shoes when they come in from picking strawberries?
>>84886940A dead-end office job in finance.Its just that the salay is utter garbage and the cost of living is through the roof. I barely spend anything
>>84887052Sorry to hear that, anon. You can't get a roommate?
>>84887143I already have a roomate, its still expensive af, i cant afford a place of my own. I cant afford a house, i can't afford a car, i can't even afford a studio in some shithole mining town.
>>84884949>incelmeme term invented on r*ddit> go into seething rage when you tell them you can improve your lifeYour "advice" is always innocuous and vague like "be confident!" or "touch grass". You never give real practical advice like "you're a nerd, right? join a book club, chicks dig books", unless it's something meaninglessly obvious like "take a shower!".Your purpose here is not to divulge your years of accumulated knowledge, it is not an act of kindness or even interest in our situation. Why would it be? I'm not naive. You believe we are evil "misogynists" for criticizing "mansplaining", "manspreading" the "wage gap" or whatever other pseudo-feminist bullshit comes pouring out of social media. You hate that rational intelligent person who always shows up on your feed and says something that basically proves you wrong. We get under your skin, and here is a part of 4chan where we talk about our problems, vulnerabilities for you to mock and exploit.Further, in the back of your mind you realize we are actually right about a great many things. We no longer have the wholesome high trust communities of the 1950s, we live in a society of migrants where minorities and white women are being brainwashed to hate us and support an apocalyptic open border policy that will make our country as awful as latin America full of these people who already actively work to discriminate against us. In a kafkaesque twist, while you overtly seek to harm us in a very real way we can prove with facts and statistics, you blame us for all your problems via subjective unfalsifiable "privilege" and "microaggressions", then cap it off by claiming our very specific criticism is us blaming you for all our problems.Nah, you hate us. The liberal dream of judging people by the content of their character is dead, you killed it, millions of white men know it and will now make themselves a problem instead of propping up your awful "society". Get fucked, lol.
>>84887312>seethes and shits xis pants when told to take a shower or touch grass, insisting it doesn't work, despite never actually doing itTouch grass. Shower. Dilate. Ack.
>>84887334if self-improvement works why doesn't anon just improve himself into the kind of person who actually does those things and insists they work?
>>84887358They work. Just. Go. Take. A. Shower.
>>84887375the amount of posts along the lines of "my boyfriend doesnt wipe wtf do i do?" on the internet suggests that hygiene has nothing to do with it. I knew plenty of smelly dudes getting laid all the time growing up. when will this meme die?
>>84886858no you're just a retard with dunning krugerwomen are absurd and there is no "figuring them out". That's why there's a negative correlation between IQ and sex acquisition in young men.
>>84887398Then the bar is in hell. Litteraly just go and talk to any women. Holy shit incels just don't exist. Y'all just gay.
>>84887403>women are absurd and there is no "figuring them out"How so? They're just attracted to the top ~20% of men and make excuses in an effort to try to hide it.
>>84887406>y'alli know you're not from the country you fucking cityslicker
Please tell me you guys are just incredibly bored and not actually falling for bait this obvious.
"Incel" doesn't mean anything anymore it just means "vague group of guys with traits I don't like personally"
>>84884949you really can't is the thing
>>84887403You can figure out things that are absurd, tard. For example, you can look at the woman's menstrual cycle and you can get a general idea of how she's going to behave. If she's on her period, she will be cunty. If she's ovulating then there's a higher chance she'll want that D.
>>84887419That's incel propaganda though. If you say "hi" to women, don't grape them and be nice you're already in the top 20% of males.
> If you say "hi" to women, don't grape them and be nice you're already in the top 20% of males.If you niggers give this shit a (you) you are lower than the most retarded nigger
>>84887487This is a disingenuous post
>>84884949That's not how it happens most of the time, people just are mean!
normalniggers:>just take a shower and be nice to women, that's literally all you have to do!also normalniggers:>what makes you think that just being nice and taking a shower entitles you to love, affection, or intimacy, you fucking incel? this is why you get no bitchesETERNAL REMINDER:THESE PEOPLE CREATE THE ENTITLED MEN THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT>THESE PEOPLE CREATE THE ENTITLED MEN THEY COMPLAIN ABOUTTHESE PEOPLE CREATE THE ENTITLED MEN THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT>THESE PEOPLE CREATE THE ENTITLED MEN THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT