I see a lot of men on this board yearn for for artificial wombs, it seems like many here want to be fathers. How many anons here would use an artificial womb if given the chance? What gender would you want your kid to be? How would you raise them? How do you think fatherhood would change you?
>>84891932I'm not reproducing unless doing it naturally with a woman who wants it too, sorry. Not going to incubate some weird demon child in a tube and call it a human, sorry. Those things are always soulless demons. Something about not being connected to the silver chord.
>>84891932Artificial wombs are cringe. I don't want children but I definitely don't want some bio-engineered bean baby.
>>84891956Do you desire to have children? What would fatherhood be like for you?
>>84891932I am only interested in artificial wombs as a thought experiment, it's not something I would want in reality.
>>84891989I do. But I recognize I probably never will.I like to think I'd be a good father if I could support them financially. I would like to take them places and do fun things but also game with them on the weekends.I've always dreamt about reading books to my kids and teaching them how to read, and draw, to talk and communicate. I think about being a father a lot and it depresses me.
>>84891932Babies should not sleep on their stomachs (SIDS), should not be given pillows (same reason), and should not sleep in the same bad as the parent (you can roll over in your sleep and smother them with an arm or leg without waking).This image shows an irresponsible parent.
No one here is interested in artificial wombs.And this thread is just a foid baiting for replies to lust over.
>>84892090Also I guess this tacitly answers your question as I'm a childless autistic NEET but still think about it enough to know all this.
>>84891932I absolutely would. This rotten foid world ensures that even decent men will struggle immensely to reproduce, and even if we do, it'll be with rotten retarded whores who will lead our children astray. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't use an artificial womb right now, i'd have to be in my mid 30s and have met all of my financial goals. I'd leave the kid with a trusted probably female family member while I worked, until he was old enough to go to school, then he'd mostly be in their care and we'd get home at around the same time, where i'd take care of 'em and prepare him for the world. I'd do a better job than either of my parents too, because they were largely borderline retarded my entire up bringing and never really taught me anything.Over all it'd be c-c-c-c-cash. He would learn everything I've learned and I would foster his interests so he could surpass me in anyway he wanted.since artificial wombs probably aren't going to be a thing by then, i'll probably just adopt a baby or something. Maybe pay some broad to pretend to be my wife. Hopefully a surrogate.
>>84891932only if it comes with a robot wife too. I want to raise a daughter as a tomboy.
>>84892115Not trying to bait, thought a thread asking anons about fatherhood would be a nice change of pace in this board
>>84891932I am a father of two, no damn way would I ever want to be a single parent, it's hard enough with two responsible adults!
>>84891956This, this shit is fucked up.
>>84891956fpbpd once again
>>84891932>I see a lot of men on this board yearn for for artificial wombshuh>it seems like many here want to be fathers.yes>How many anons here would use an artificial womb if given the chance?depends on the cost>What gender would you want your kid to be?healthy>How would you raise them?poorly>How do you think fatherhood would change you?greatlypic rel, my child after learning that I am a loser with no game who relied on an artificial womb lottery to give him life, but not give him identity
>>84891989Hopefully better than my own shitty upbringing.I've given this alot of thought but I'm kind of tired I can go into it if you reply and this thread is still here tomorrow but nothing crazy or out of the box pretty vanilla but hopefully someone who can be happy and a stable influence for their kid (with a good partner ideally) and helps them with all the stuff, a good role model and focus on self fundamentally but also alot for them idk.
If I could gene edit the baby to not be any part asian yeah that would tempt me.Gene edit it to not be ugly or retarded yeah.But then there's the issue of money which I don't have enough of. Even if I did have the money I'd still fail as a father so. Its probably better if I don't.
>>84891932I'm sorry. But men cannot be trusted with this power. The amount of fucked up people this would result in would collapse any society.
>>84892090>SIDSAka moms killing their kids.>you can roll over in your sleep and smother them with an arm or leg without wakingJust sleep properly.
>>84891932It doesn't matter because artificial wombs will never be a thing. Anything that takes power away from women will never be a thing. That includes shit like realistic sex robots and android type robots that can cook, clean, etc.
>>84895611You can't prevent moving around in your sleep anon. Luckily SIDs is very rare, but it's always good to err on the side of caution for the baby
>>84895650SIDS isn't rare, they just name it many different things so there's no definitive number for women killing their kids.
>>84895631Why wouldn't they? Why wouldn't artificial wombs be mass produced if the technology was made cheap enough to do so? The technology has a lot of applications, if it suddenly became real there would be no way to suppress such a thing. >power away from women will never be a thingThe device that grows babies inside of it? Anon do you realize how much interest that would generate for women? There's a lot of women out there who would be open to using one.
>>84895631free porn takes power away from women
>>84891932only if its attached to a maidbot companion
>>84895693>take away the 1 thing women can uniquely doYeah, not happening. If it did, it would be illegal for straight men. Women already bitch about AI girlfriends because it means less simps. ANYTHING that takes power away from women won't be a thing. Same reason why male birth control pills will never happen.
>>84895665>no definitive number for women killing their kidsThere is a name for this, look up maternal filicide or maternal neonaticide. Look into most of these cases, you will see a consistent pattern of postpartum psychosis. It's quite sad honestly.
>>84891932I'm sure the entire sentiment stems from guys who want to start a family like literally all of their ancestors did but without having to suffer the soul draining nightmare of dealing with the average modern woman. And they're right.
>>84895650I can ackshually I barely move at all when I sleep. I've shared beds a lot in my life because I'm poor.
>>84895768>If it did, it would be illegal for straight menHow would this be achieved? How would the government prevent 50% of the population from having access to the technology? What's preventing a group of women from buying artificial wombs in bulk to sell to men? What's preventing a group of men from pretending to be gay to be able to use the technology? Banning such a large portion of the population from the technology would be impossible. Realistically, an artificial womb industry would look most similar to the current surrogacy industry.>Same reason why male birth control pills will never happen.The reason why male birth control pills doesn't exist isn't because of feminism or female supremacy, its because of how the drug approval system works. Most drug administrations requires medication to have side effects that are less harmful than the result of the drug. The side effects of birth control are considered low risk in women because pregnancy is high risk enough to balance the side effects out. Men cannot get pregnant, so the same side effects presenting in men are considered too harmful. As a result, medical companies rule out male birth control since the benefits are believed to be outweighed by the side effects.
>>84895975>What's preventing a group of men from pretending to be gay It just not what men do. If they did, they would pretend to be trans to get women-only grants & scholarships for college. They would pretend to be trans to BTFO of every women's athletic record. Men, unlike women, generally have a sense of pride, decency, honesty, etc. (among other things).>Most drug administrations requires medication to have side effects that are less harmful than the result of the drugThere are literally drugs on the market right now where a possible side effect is death. Hell, most of them basically have death as a possible side effect (stroke, heart attack, etc.).>Men cannot get pregnantMedical community is still 50/50 on that one
>>84896072>There are literally drugs on the market right now where a possible side effect is deathYes, and those drugs are on the market because the benefits of those drugs are considered to outweigh the downsides. When the first birth control trials took place in Puerto Rico in the 50s, half of of the participants dropped out, and three people died. Early birth control pills had severe side effects like blood clots and strokes. The drug was still approved anyway. Of course drug trials have changed but the reason why it was approved is simply because of pregnancy. When a woman has unprotected sex, her options are to either take contraceptive and experience the side effects, or risk getting pregnant. When a man has unprotected sex, he could choose to take contraceptives and experience the side effects. But if he were to not take contraceptives, then nothing would happen to him specifically. Having sex doesn't create a major change in a man's body like pregnancy. So drug administrations see the side effects of male birth control as less justifiable compared to female birth control. The standards for male birth control are higher.This isn't me arguing against male birth control by the way. Plenty of people, both men and women included, would be happy for an alternative to female birth control or condoms. But popular demand isn't enough to put a drug on the market.
>>84896299>Yes, and those drugs are on the market because the benefits of those drugs are considered to outweigh the downsides.Moving the goalposts. You already said that "rug administrations requires medication to have side effects that are less harmful than the result of the drug". Unless you're arguing that DEATH is "less harmful" than the result of the drug, you're wrong. So, which is it?
>>84896335It's not moving the goalposts, I'll show you what I mean with some examples. Look at prescription opioids. These drugs are incredibly addictive, and can slow breathing and heart rate to a life threatening amount when abused. But opioids are incredibly effective pain killers, even heroin has legitimate medical uses as pain reliever during surgery or childbirth. Look at blood thinners, these drugs can cause severe uncontrolled bleeding. For people with heart disease, the alternative to not taking these drugs is to experience blood clots that block arteries and travel to the brain. 87% of strokes in the US are caused by blood clots blocking arteries in the brain. Blood thinners are also used during surgery to prevent clotting. That's why they stay on the market, these drugs have clear preventative upsides despite the risks (which includes the risk of death). A man who chooses not to take male birth control before unprotected sex will experience no significant changes to his body, at most he might feel a little sleepy after the act. So side effects like acne, mood swings, weight gain, fatigue etc caused by male birth control make the drugs less worthy of investment and approval.
>>84896621Didn't even attempt to answer the question. Is DEATH less harmful than the result of the drug or not? It's a very simple yes or no.
>>84896693>Is DEATH less harmful than the result of the drug or not? See my previous answer, I already said that the answer is yes. I'll quote where I said this below.>That's why they stay on the market, these drugs have clear preventative upsides despite the risks (which includes the risk of deathDrug administrations see the risk of death from these drugs as acceptable because of the preventative upsides.
>>84896762Thanks for admitting you're a retard that thinks death is better than treatment. I don't argue with retards. Filtered. Reply more, I'll never see it. I know you will, retards always keep replying.
>>84896806Anon, I'm simply trying to make you understand the logic that drug administrations operate under. If there's something you want to call retarded, it's the FDA.
>>84895611>Aka moms killing their kids.Look, I hate women as much as the next autistic incel who has never been touched by one: but quit making shit up, it makes us look bad.When guidelines came out instructing parents not to let infants sleep on their stomachs/with dolls and pillows/in a parent's bed, SIDS cases dropped by over half in the United States.Don't let your justified misogyny turn you into a reactionary retard who ignores facts.
