>>84906118
Don't care, it's still eons better than any social media. There's actually some semi intelligent people here still and not thousands of people screaming about chemtrails and demon possession

>>84906136
>not thousands of people screaming about chemtrails and demon possession
You like 4chan because there aren't conspiracytards?

shitter is even worse than this place so not exactlu a bright picture of our society.
I only still use imageboards instead of forums because I'm paranoid about being doxxed/hacked.

>>84906144
Not nearly as bad as Instagram or Twitter, here you can still ignore them

>>84906118
Twitter is almost entirely bots retard

>>84906118
Now run the numbers on how many posts elsewhere on the internet are just about screenshots from here. Kek I mean that's not really possible but anyways I'm just trying to say that our cultural impact is a little more than just the posts made here.

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>>84906118
>If you want to bring it back to life, make OC.
Trvke svpernova. The site is the best when Anons come together and work with each other. You haven't truly 4channed unless you've participated in something larger than yourself. Picrel.

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yet we are still the wellsrping of all the internet's memes and the world's greatest psyop agents and scam artists can't compete

>>84906118
4chan has never been popular, why am I supposed to care it's not a top 10 site in traffic? Twitter in 2010 was most likely faster than 4chan in 2017. Who cares.

>>84906165
>something larger than yourself. Picrel
Like a drawing? I think I'm just fine alone

>>84906172
4chan gets way too much credit for memes and themes. Like some who claim lookism/blackpill came from here.

>>84906239
Yes, nigga, a drawing. The seethe a Spinel recolor caused in 2019 was fucking legendary. 4chan is at its funnest when people team up to tribe over their waifus or to create something.

the internet wasn't real life, but in hindsight 4chan was at the forefront of pop culture. even the word 'meme' (yes, it wasn't invented here, but it was popularised here).

it used to blow my mind if a film or TV show so much as mentioned a website. now it's like the world works the other way around.

>>84906118
>If you want to bring it back to life, make OC. The death of OC is arguably much worse than how slow this place is
Zoomers can't do shit. Boomers and millennials are worn out. We're in a culture of fitting in, not standing out. And nobody does charity either, they all want dopamine heavy fame or validation. Take a gander at various game wikis and how well maintained they used to be compared to today. Everyone is a consumer not a creator. And creatively bankrupt with no imagination. Gone are the days of newgrounds and YTMND.
Sharty had an attempt at forced OC and it was shit.

>>84906160
On Xitter you can block specific posters annoying posters. I'm not sure about Instagram, though. I'm also not actually arguing 4chan has a worse user experience or anything like that. My thesis is that you should view yourself as OP pic when you post here, unless you're just shitposting. Kind of like a discord with some goofy guys who are kinda funny sometimes.
>>84906161
What is your evidence? Why do you think 4chan isn't largely bots too? Even if X was 75% bots, it'd still be 200x faster than 4chan. If you take out the generalslop that could easily move to discord (realistically, over 50% of posts), probably 400x. I also use Twitter as an example because it is actually very small in the realm of social platforms, even if we ignore stuff like WeChat.
>>84906163
So basically you just really hope one of your posts gets on r/greentext or read by TTS so an Indian village can afford food?
>>84906181
As long as you recognize how small and irrelevant you are, that's good. I still see anons who pretend like 4chan is constantly making OC that's hitting the cultural consciousness. Tbf, the Backrooms was that, but that was like 7 years ago originally and only blew up because of a 16-year-old (now 21-year-old) with actual talent and creativity. Before the Backrooms, it was soijaks which have just been a cancer and that was 10 years ago now I think.
>>84906270
>>84906172
Yes, 4chan used to be relevant like a decade ago. A lot of anons still live in the past. I'm pretty sure the original le /pol/ face came from leftypol though.

>>84906300
>On Xitter you can block specific posters annoying posters. I'm not sure about Instagram
It's literally the whole website I would be blocking for eternity

>>84906263
Drawings can't make me money nigga, I'm not interested

>>84906287
kwah did more OC in a few months than the rest of 4chan has done since kwah has been deleted

>>84906118
I don't really care about where it is in globohomo rankings.
This place made me laugh once and I can say what I think here without moderators banning me because they thought I was attacking whatever dumbass north american politics club they're obsessed with. People here have real opinions (and good taste) instead of stating the obvious and shilling the popular just to farm meaningless internet points.
It's the only place on the internet that's still truly free.
I could give less of a fuck how much 'clout' or 'influence' it has. Really, the less it has the better, because having those things in the first place means attracting a flood of normalfags with their normalfag politics and their normalfag taste, and that would mean this place losing its identity and becoming what everything else already is.
I just want one corner of the internet that isn't afraid to be different. That doesn't feel this maddening pressure to conform, to become generic and boring, like everything else is in this accursed globohomo age.
If you don't feel the same, then you're the one who should leave. Go say simple, stupid things to farm upvotes from political obsessives on twitter. Have fun with that. I like it here, the way it is.

>>84906118
And yet twitter is all rehashed 4chan culture, and real life is all rehashed twitter culture. How does that work.

>>84906330
>Drawings can't make me money nigga
They can if you draw good enough. Sometimes it's not about the money but sending a message. Stop idolizing the dollar

>>84906396
>Stop idolizing the dollar
Easy to say when you don't need it. The job market is cooked

>>84906433
We need money. Just don't idolize money. It's a tool at the end of the day, not the goal.

4chan's influence is so pervasive that it's just culture now. Normal culture is like 4chan culture from 10 years ago. Come on man. Normies are just now discovering the concept of mogging. Sure, 4chan is slow now. Saying it's not relevant to the real world is like a fish saying water isn't relevant. This is a kid's take.

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>>84906163
I just went to the top of r/greentext in the past year, and I actually made this 4chan post, but the most viral posts like the one I made are basically just tweets that spark a little bit of "discourse" on <pop culture subject> or <relationship dynamic> to another website. On Xitter we call that blue checkmark-posting and engagement bait. The popular posts on r/greentext or r/4chan don't actually diffuse 4chan culture except maybe a little edginess and 'jaks.
>>84906379
What are the unique interesting threads on /r9k/, even? I'm not telling you to exit 4chan, but just admit you're the guy in OP pic.
>>84906389
Neither of those things are true in the slightest. The Nazi side of Twitter is more influenced by Pakistani groypers than 4chan. There's a hint of /pol/-tier edginess but look at catturd or Gunther Eagleman's tweets and tell me that resembles 4chan and not just someone who can only subsist off Trump's leaking diarrhea.
>>84906476
Why do you think redpill and looksmaxxing slop came from 4chan? lol

>>84906486
unironically lurk more if you're asking me this

>If you want to bring it back to life, make OC. The death of OC is arguably much worse than how slow this place is.
Funny coming from a soijak poster. Everyone who complains about this are always the first to be not original and spam the same stuff.

>>84906300
>So basically you just really hope one of your posts gets on r/greentext or read by TTS so an Indian village can afford food?
I mean that's what one should do if they want to have wider cultural impact. That shit gets a ton of views. And they get turned into memes.

We aren't all braindead retards that need a constant feed of shit streamed to us on phones.

>>84906486
>just admit you're the guy in OP pic.
I absolutely am, and I enjoy talking seriously to other based people who are serious about those topics without normalfags butting in to farm upboats by shitting on those topics.

>>84906136
If you go in instagram comment sections you will genuinely find some of the most braindead fucking retards. They're in every comment section acting like complete idiots. Not to mention the endless gif spam and exact comment spam (enough to make r9k cry). This is the only site I've found actually good, intelligent, well-thought out takes.

That and a lot of people here have good taste. IDK about /a/ or /mu/ but /lit/fags really know what a good book is, compared to tiktok and ig.

>>84906486
>we
So you admit that you're not even a regular? Why not just go on twatter and stay there with your peers?
>"I'll go to an irrelevant small website and complain about it being irrelevant and small", t. (You)

>>84906520
Kek Instagram comments showed me just how retarded and fickle the masses really sre. 80% of the world would be more productive as biofuel and whatnot

>>84906486
>I just went to the top of r/greentext in the past year, and I actually made this 4chan post, but the most viral posts like the one I made are basically just tweets that spark a little bit of "discourse" on <pop culture subject> or <relationship dynamic> to another website. On Xitter we call that blue checkmark-posting and engagement bait. The popular posts on r/greentext or r/4chan don't actually diffuse 4chan culture except maybe a little edginess and 'jaks.
You are probably right about that, the ones that do turn into memes and get passed around a lot are usually just only related to 4chan in the format and website it's posted on, they might as well be the kind of short "greentexts" on twitter (which are posted sometimes.) I do think the fact they *look* like 4chan makes them more popular but they don't really give you le 4chin experience or anything.

Why would I want to go on a website where everyone acts like a fucking trained seal clapping for upvotes or karma or likes or whatever dumb number they see on screen? Shit, if you want OC then draw that instead of using the same recycled basedjaks and pepes every damn day.

>>84906476
10 years ago yeah we had culture, couple of years in the future, when they look back, what can they pull from now?

>>84906520
>/lit/fags really know what a good book is, compared to tiktok and ig.
That's because they actually read the books instead of just posing with them for an instagram photo.
You got any thoughts on the first Dune? I'm about to start it but I've seen multiple movies so I'm not particularly fussed about spoilers since I won't be getting a 'blind' experience no matter what.

>>84906502
Idk which person you are. Redpill and looksmaxxing blew up completely unrelated to anything 4chan did. Culture more so blows up now because of a strong personality/influencer, e.g. Andrew Tate and Clavicular (who are also astroturfed to hell and back). Every /r9k/ thread that gets more than 100 replies is just reddit/X screencap, someone larping as a woman, or a general.
>>84906515
>>84906569
I'm saying this place is irrelevant now, not that it's always boring or you need to leave. I like being the guy in OP shit and argue with some NEET losers about politics or why they're fakecels. I just want to dispel the myth that this place isn't just a tiny speck of filth that hasn't produced any OC in like 7 years.
>>84906517
That's fair.

>>84906574
Probably nothing or something that seems totally inconsequential to the regular users. I am only making the point that 4chan is relevant to culture now.

>>84906576
>That's because they actually read the books instead of just posing with them for an instagram photo.
No, they really don't. Even if some do, they read some generic philosophy crap and act like total pseuds. You just have to see the many philosophy threads on there. Then there's them melting down about books that got made into movies like Project Hail Mary and Dungeon Crawler Carl.

>>84906605
Irrelevant to who? The trained seals? Good. This place is filled with more than enough shitposters as it is.

>>84906605
>concepts that originated on 4chan
>unrelated to 4chan because its attached to a personality and not 4chan

>>84906118
4chan is dead, yes, but size has basically zero correlation with influence so it's a terrible way of gauging the relevance of this place. Even during its peak basically every other platform was much much bigger and more active than 4chan and yet this place had equal or greater influence than any of them.

>>84906576
>You got any thoughts on the first Dune?
Never read it. I think on /lit/ it's half split between people who think it's too "plot orientated" and people who think it's good. So it's probably good, better than the movies I'd bet

But as a wise litbro told me (I can't find the screenshot), just read what you want and like. If you like it, it's good, if you don't, it's bad. I haven't liked some very popular lit (this comes from a thread where I admitted I didn't like Lolita despite the overwhelming praise it gets).

>>84906621
Wouldn't know, I don't go on /lit/, I was just kinda assuming since 4channers tend to be much more likely to actually do their hobbies, rather than just displaying said hobbies for attention.
Every board has its share of undesirables though. Just ignore 'em and talk to the people worth talking to.

>>84906631
Irrelevant to pop culture and internet culture. Nothing breaches containment except shitty jokes in greentext form reposted to reddit/X or ">be me >straight >do gay shit" greentexts.
>>84906640
The term looksmaxx certainly didn't originate on 4chan, neither did the term redpill. The modern incarnation of le redpill, i.e. grind 24/7, get into a half-open relationship, don't have kids because that's gay, certainly didn't originate on 4chan. The lookism forums have vastly more credit to what got popularized than 4chan.
>>84906666
4chan didn't have great influence in 2018, lol. It had disproportionate influence relative to its size, but something like Youtube has had more influence in totality at least for 15 years.

>>84906621
>Even if some do
They do read, but they're so shit at reading they think reading more than 20 books a year is impossible.

>>84906118
whats about its visits? it has 50,000,000 unique visitors each month?

>>84906118
>serious or relevant to the real world
The thing is that it wasn't supposed be. All those early pranks were done for the lulz. Now, too many people see it as a 'dark web hackerman" site.
The biggest issue is that people are taking it way too seriously instead of just fooling around.

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>>84906741
These stats are obviously just made up. 4stats hasn't shown 4chan having 1 million posts per day in a very long time.
I do remember Moot said in one of his 4/8 hour Q&A's that 4chan had around 10:1 visitors to posters while other social medias had around 100:1. This makes sense given how easy it is to post to 4chan relative to other sites, but that'd make the numbers look even worse for 4chan.
>>84906772
I mean even stuff like 'jaks and the first Backrooms image. All the stuff that hit normalfags around from like 7 years ago at least. Sharty has done more to get more esoteric 'jaks in the mainstream than 4chan. Not to mention the OC was coming from kwah and was actively shut down by mods because they were too lazy to moderate.

>>84906696
>too "plot orientated"
Hell does that even mean? What, they picked up a book about intergalactic drug-mining jihad and they were disappointed by the lack of cute sandworm slice of life scenes?
I'll probably love it then, I like tight focused narrative arcs.

>If you like it, it's good, if you don't, it's bad.
Not sure I agree with that one. I like plenty of things that are bad (love neuromancer's purple prose, but the author regrets it apparently?), and just because I dislike something doesn't mean it isn't good, just not my kinda thing. Taste and quality are seperate, IMO. Nothing wrong with liking something bad or hating something good.

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>>84906833
>hell does that even mean?
Picrel is of another anon explaining from a bit ago after I was confused why people were calling me a "plotfag". It has some validity but it's definitely not an end-all-be-all, definitely not as much at litfags make it out to be.

>cute sandworm slice of life scenes
kek

>Taste and quality are seperate
Yeah I get what you mean. I kinda meant subjectively it's good/bad. And yeah I don't like Lolita (for mostly plot related reasons) but can recognize that it's a great novel and very well written