>gay men have a shortage of tops and most are bottoms or "versatiles" (with an actual preference to bottom)>trannies have a shortage of tops and doms (almost all troons are subs)>women have a shortage of doms and are surrounded more and more by guys who want a femdom mommy (or is vanilla/neutral at best)Really makes you think.
>>84933118>>gay men have a shortage of topsbecause like a quarter of men can't get boners for multiple reasons
>>84933118I'd be down to top a twink, but they're all size queens, sadly my 5.8" pencil dick isn't good enough for them.
>>84933118WHERE DID ALL THE MANLY MEN GO
>>84933118there is a very simple reason for this and its that nobody wants carry the sole responsibility for the sexual act. a *top* needs to keep erect forever, cum ropes, plow his partner for hours, all while the *bottom* can just lay there like a dead seal and do nothing except being pleasured. this is why men want a femdom relationship btw, and why women find femdom disgusting on average. just like in every other aspect of life, women want to receive all the goods of the world without any kind of reciprocity. now men want the same
>>84933176I'm busy reading vanilla romcoms. Seethe, everyone
>>84933222Here's the thing. You think about this from the perspective of a bottom/sub so you think "just laying there and getting fucked" is the reward and choking or pounding someone is tiresome work. If someone is really wired to be a top or dom, they feel energized and rewarded from being in that role.
>>84933258most guys aren't though, and it's not just attractive or otherwise high value guys that are. thats why a lot of the uglier fucks/fat fucks/etc. that you see are plenty successful. personality mogging is real in the sense of being a sadistic retard who gets off on being what these mentally ill submissive freaks want in a partner. male or female.
>>84933222Seems like a bit of a stretch. I think the truth is, men are not as sexually driven as society makes out and are in fact driven by a myriad of truths and reasons. Society is just shallow and disgusting. No one wants to literally do anything, because "work" is not something most people pursue simply for the works itself, rather to hold as a tool for gaining a higher position on the social hierarchy. Performative people. Performative society. People are self serving and its for stupid made up egotistical shit. Not even being genuinely competitive, just imaginary social schizophrenia battles. MY SOCIAL MEDIA NUMBER IS BIG, I AM BETTER THAN YOU. Regular folk literally cannot stand people who refuse to play by their stupid rules and even call you pyscho or whatever when they are the psychos.
>>84933258>source: i made it upthere is no responsibility connected with being a bottom. you are literally the one *getting fucked*. you are on the *receiving end of it*. yes, i stated the fact that getting something unconditionally without doing anything for it is what most people prefer, meanwhile being worked like a horse for the same reward is tiresome and most people dont feel up to the task, which is why being a sub is so popular per your own initial statement.dumbass
judging by what I read on 4chaneveryone here is a top
>>84933222having sex is like dancing with your partner in a sense. the man is supposed to lead and the woman (or fag I suppose, since this IS r9k) is supposed to follow.if you just sit there boredly pumping and don't DO anything else she has nothing to follow, and she assumes that is what you want.
Sadly I'm not allowed to be a top as I'm only 5'8
>>84933297you sound like a virgin>not original
>>84933308well I'm not, but you sound like an autistic freak, which you are
>>84933318autistic freak boardautistic freak sitekys normalfag
>>84933328wow yeah the autistic freak doesn't understand how to fuck a girl, what a shocker!
>>84933273This is correct. Most men (and women) are bottoms and/or subs. Hence why the few % that truly are wired and born dominant are sought after the most.>>84933287You're the same kind of retard who thinks working out or doing sports is "bad" because it's demanding and that lazy people who just lay around at home are the happy and rewarded ones. You are not a top or dom and that's okay. In your perspective, doing that is "work" and doesn't give you energy or purpose. You want to be like a woman or sissy and get fucked, I get it.
>>84933287And by the way, to just further add that you are retarded. Some subs do a lot more than the doms. Some femdoms for example have literal slaves who will pay their bills (working full time to do this) and clean the house of the mistress. Overall, they invest more physical and mental labor than the femdom who spends only a % of that time into teasing them or letting them watch on a cuck chair.
>>84933222>Be sub>Subservience goes as far as just laying there letting the dom do everythingLiterally why I can't take it seriously, worst is if they expect you to larp and talk like a faggot. >Have you been a good girl?>Tell me the truth>Uhuh, you aren't telling me the truth>And you know how daddy feels about that
>>84933258this is arbitrary. this would make billions count as asexual. you're retarded.
>>84933359Nta >Some femdomsYes a male sub will do shit for a female dom.What does a female sub do for a male dom to that extent?
>>84933359that kind of subbing is not activity inside the connection. get a clue
>>84933381Nothing I said would make billions count as asexual, you are hallucinating.
>>84933378you're just not cut out to be a dom, you're letting her control you so easily. that's why she wants chad. he just does what he wants, you try to do what she wants instead of being a dom
>>84933394please stop projecting your cuck fantasies retard
>>84933391>>You think about this from the perspective of a bottom/sub so you think "just laying there and getting fucked" is the reward and choking or pounding someone is tiresome work."efforful" sub/dom is bdsm kind of shit you won't see being common irl. people just fuck
>>84933389>being a slave or servant for someone in their house and cleaning everything, giving massages, worshipping them is not "activity in the connection"Brain not found?>>8493338824/7 female slaves exist. Some of them work as well and give their master all their income as well as doing the tasks he demands, cleaning, massages, whatever.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OPW0UzucgY
>>84933394Im not cut out to be an ultra simp who will do anything for a woman as a chance to prove myself that im the boss.>Daddy asks her if he can cum on her faceLol
>>84933394>he just does what he wantswhat if chad wants to be sub>chad would never-chads out there turn themselves into passable trannies ffs
>>84933407If someone finds being a dominant or top to be tiresome work and doesn't generate enjoyment out of those activities with a willing partner, then they are a bottom or/and sub. What is so hard about this? That doesn't make billions asexual. Maybe they are just vanilla.>>84933411>just taking whatever if you want from a woman is "being an ultra simp"These mental gymnastics of you bottom sissies.
>>84933410Yes exceptions to the rule exist, minority of the female sub population though.Majority of female "subs" is more demanding than subservient.
>>84933410oh yeah cleaning the room is so intimate, as opposed to directly validating the domination face to face you're too sterile 4 this convo
>>84933411>>Daddy asks her if he can cum on her face>Lolexactly what I'm talking about lol so many guys who think they're "dominant" or whatever do this sort of shit and it's obnoxious
>>84933419you miss the point. bot?if someone finds being a dominant and submissive to be tiresome work and doesn't generate enjoyment out of those activities with a willing partner, then they are what. when they fuck anyway
>>84933419>Whatever you wantIf she gives you consent, big boss. Go play maid and chauffeur for your sub before she deems you worthy of "dominating" her while she starfishes.Lol, lmao even.
>>84933118>get rid of "toxic masculinity">can't find a guy who will pound the fuck out of your assholewhat a surprise
>>84933436No you dont understand, you need to find enjoyment in the larp before you are deemed fuckable, instead of being found attractive from the getgo and getting an enthusiastic partner. Now grab the paddle and prepare the spanking bench and make sure you bring a sports drink, your sub demands you to be rough.
>>84933416obviously I wasn't talking about gay chad, dummy. why you bringing up something irrelevant?
>>84933426>ignores all the other activities like physical worship, grooming, massages, literally kneeling and kissing feetDishonest troll.>>84933436If someone finds it tiring and non-rewarding to fuck someone actively (top) or to dominant them then they are most likely just a bottom or sub.>>84933441I'm not a man. But you're clearly an enraged sissy.
>>84933471your rebuttal is irrelevant to first subreply
>>84933480>physical worship, grooming, massages, literally kneeling and kissing feetyou can do these as a dom with dom spirit to it
>>84933490Sure you can. I didn't say these are exclusive sub activities, but many subs do crave being used like that or being "useful" and of service. So the idea that subs are just lazy bottoms can be true, but it is not always.
>I'm the heckin epic Chad Top Dom Master but I should have zero responsibilities to my partner at all>she should do literally everything in both the house and the bedroom and the chores and the cooking and on and on and onerm even a normal wife would have some expectations of you, you realize?
>>84933480>If someone finds it tiring and non-rewarding to fuck someone actively (top)again, I'm asking "If someone finds it tiring and non-rewarding to fuck someone passively AND/OR actively, but rewarding to just fuck, what are they"?>I'm not a mannot an excuse to lack reading comprehension
>>84933118>>84933273That's why we, abusechads/narcissists/psychopaths, are the genetically superior males that have harem of women at our disposal.80/20 rule? More like 95/5 rule, only 5% of males are narcissists and or psychopaths.
>>84933480>Im not a man so I am heavily invested in men still thinking them doing all the work makes them the boss o algoIf you say so massa
>>84933496That's the point, if a normal wife expects a normal husband, why does a sub doing normal wife stuff expect alphadaddy3000?
>>84933503>If someone finds it tiring and non-rewarding to fuck someone passively AND/OR actively, but rewarding to just fuckWhat does this even mean? Doesn't find it rewarding to fuck someone passively OR actively, but finds it fun to fuck? How would that work for a man? Zero PIV sex? Not getting pegged? Just oral and touching? I don't understand what you are trying to say.
>>84933506you don't have any women though
>>84933506>Haremmasters were actually super busy dominating instead of just snapping their fingers and waiting to get suckled.Cam on guraposter, think.
>>84933517>I don't understand what you are trying to say.retard
>>84933516you're a muslim shit aren't you lol
>>84933118>have a shortage of topswhat? where did you hear this?i've never had a problem finding them>>84933288depends on the board i guess
>>84933541let me guess, you're a /trash/oid
>>84933539So you can't explain it because you realized yourself it doesn't make sense:>WHAT IS PERSON WHO FINDS IT FUN TO FUCK BUT DOESNT WANT TO FUCK ACTIVELY OR PASSIVELY???
>>84933540Not really, I expect give and take, which is normal. I dont want a dom larp relationship. I should accuse you of being that though.
>>84933222>. just like in every other aspect of life, women want to receive all the goods of the world without any kind of reciprocity. now men want the same90% of women don't cum from piv and there is a massive orgasm cap between hetero men and hetero women where hetero women rarely orgasm but men nut every time.Men into femdom basically want to offer women even less pleasure, they are that selfish.Lesbian sex is the only kind that can guarantee orgasm for a female
>>84933517>What does this even mean?dom/sub is porn, or at best french philosophy, invention. neither invented sex. get a clue
>>84933570NUCLEARTRUTH NUKE POST
>>84933547bleh too degenerate, not for meits the other trash can board
>>84933559you're "not really" a mudshit?
>>84933578If you read closely you would have noticed the inclusion of the words OR and bottom and top. A man can be a submissive or vanilla top. Top just means you are the one who penetrates in that context.
>>84933570>Lesbian sex is the only kind that can guarantee orgasm for a femalethat's why 95% of lesboids have a dead bedroom
>>84933153A fag in the other fag thread said 6x5.5 was enough to make him cumYou people are disgusting though
>>84933586dom/sub isn't just active/passive. the latter is mechanics, the former is social
>>84933570>Men into femdom basically want to offer women even less pleasure, they are that selfish.Only if they are somehow not into eating pussy. Which is just too laughable a concept to think of. If they are classic denial types, not even chastity, they want a reverse orgasm gap. It's silly to say what you said.
>>84933599I never said it is. But at least in relationships that include men, in the majority of cases, there will be a bottom or top or switches.
>>84933118>women have a shortage of domsnot true
>>84933585>I want a relationship where the man is the master and the woman is chained subject but you are a muzzie because you want a woman who gives and expects equal effortYou're just projecting
>>84933610mostly I think you're a muzzie shit cause you're an ESL and retarded
>>84933595That was me lmfao. 6x5.5 is ideal, but anything above 5x3.5 works.
>>84933609I understood op as in for them alone to enjoy, not having to share. Not that they need to ofcourse, sharing is fine as long as it's chad.
>>84933609Insane cope. A lot of men are "prison doms" where they just perform that role in bed, while they actually are vanilla or submissives or at least switches.
>>84933118>>women have a shortage of doms and are surrounded more and more by guys who want a femdom mommyjust do what I did, find an older guy and date him loldunno what I'll do when I want to get married though but in the meantime it's fun
>>84933615>No U are le muzzie>No U are le eslNah, you are angry and deflecting. But my fault for holding back and not calling you a niggerfaggot simpcuck I guess.
>>84933637you don't have to sperg out cause you're a gross muzzie and an ESL. we already knew you were retarded, you don't have to prove it to us more.
>>84933591Yet they orgasm every time they fuck
>>84933639>Only forget the a once>U are esl because you dont have corrext syntax like me>>84933540 "A muslim shit">Also le muzzie even though you want a woman that isnt your slave but a normal wife Coping
So much debate over mashing pissers r9k never changes. Time is a flat circle.
>>84933649stop spergin, mudshit! nobody cares, you're retarded and nobody likes you lolol
>>84933647>Cum once>Never fuck againWhat's the orgasm gap compared to straight women in absolute numbers?
>>84933655>MudshitTisk tisk, it's "you're a muslim shit" which is the correct englisher
>>84933647no they don't lol dead bedroom thing is 100% real though
>>84933118I would eat so good, if I wasn't such a retard
>>84933671no it's not, retard. confirmed ESL, confirmed moron, confirmed disgusting MUDSLIME
>>84933683Hey man don't be so hard on yourself
>>84933691>No it's notYou're giving off mixed signals
>>84933714you're definitely an ESL, and that's gross.
