I can't with women. Maybe stop fucking Chad? Maybe recall that patriarchy had an answer to this dilemma called waiting until marriage for sex?
>>85191072What if we dont want to date ugly men and want to have some fun?
>>85191072>Maybe recall that patriarchy had an answer to this dilemma called waiting until marriage for sex?Western society had this concept but women gave it up for hookup culture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breach_of_promiseOnce enough women did it, it couldnt be taken seriously anymore culturally and it disappeared.
>>85191080If that's what you want, then why do so many of you complain then about getting taken for a ride?
>>85191072hahahhahaahhaa normie women are so fucking pathetic its hilariousreddit witches are the worst
>>85191072To be honest i bet she's nasty in bed. I've slept with women who are pretty and then you get them naked and you're like "shit" but you still fuck them because it'd be mean not to. Also a lot of women have way better pics and when you meet irl you're disappointed but it's an easy lay so you see whatever and go through with it. Like the amount of chicks who take good face shots but hide that they are fat as shit is pretty high in my experience especially zoomer girls which i don't get because I'm going to notice your fat when we meet up so what's the point?
>>85191091I was not aware of this particular aspect. Your post was informative.
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>>85191072I've been reading a lot of reddit posts about dating recently and I noticed that too. I don't think it's always Chad though. I think a lot of the women are cute but sexually unappealing, so the guy drops them after sex. Sometimes the women have ugly bodies, smell bad, have very loose holes, are annoying or boring in bed, etc. A lot of posters talk about how important sexual compability is, but seem to forget about it when it comes to getting dumped after sex.
>>85191072Men always being in a constant state of rut is a natural mechanism to keep them interested in women, and post nut clarity reveals foids for what they are. If men could always see them without these hormones they would realize they're immature and boring. Just not that interesting or fun to be around. Women throughout history have never had to woo the opposite sex. Men had to be the comedians, the romantics, shoulders to cry on. Women were always the recipients and judges of the work men put into the relationship. Not either parties fault, that's the way we are wired, and it's not surprising that foids genuinely believe men like them for them, because critical thinking was a mans job too. We are not women, we are not part of your sneaky sexual in-group. If you are a mid person we're gone as soon as the hormonal hypnosis wears off.tl;dr It has nothing to do with sex, it's just who these women are as people that is so off-putting. Post-nut clarity is the only time a man can truly see them.
This is why i never sleep with men.They're gonna leave either way, why bother? Sex isnt even all that, 1 in 10 know how to fuck, the rest are shit at sex.
>>85191080then stop crying about it when they can do better than you.
>>85191937This is why this site is so so so important. It really helps me understand. Men dont actually like women. Infact i think most men are gay, because you enjoy the company of men far more, its just not socially acceptable for men to fuck one another.This is important for me to remember, men only want to cum then leave. Any femcel reading this, never feel bad about using men for money, or whatever, they dont see you as human, just a hole to fuck, so dont see them as human either, just see them as walking wallets
>>85191967Maybe try being interesting enough to stick around for, unless you are above that then you can enjoy being alone or get with a lesbo and circlejerk about how beautiful and perfect you both are.
>>85191995Try being interesting like the average moid who spends thousands on children's cards, and plays on their PC, ok
why are you banned OP?
>>85191991>Don't like women as people? >You must be gayThe problem is that you are a vapid, uninteresting, whiny cunt. The only reason men are interested in you is because they are obligated by hormones. If you put a fraction of the effort into wooing a man as he does with a woman, you would already be interesting enough for post coitus cuddles.But instead of bettering yourselves, you'd rather blame men for not putting up with your passive, low effort "entertain me now" tripe, during the only time they can recognize it.
>>85192009somehow works on your dumb asses. you are the ones constantly complaining men won't commit.
>>85192024>men are little more than animals, driven by hormones>women to blameIf im so uninteresting, stop trying to fuck me>>85192031Nope, i dont sleep with men. Go commit to silly card games
>>85191072Why didnt she just uh not have sex with him? But i suppose its some hardline concrete fact of physics where that HAS to happen or the world will explode or something
>>85192034We are all animals driven by hormones, dumbass. Your ruts are confined by ovulation cycles because men aren't passive and parasitic enough to justify literal mind control to pursue them. We become interesting all on our own, because throughout history all the uninteresting men were virgins who are now pushing up daisies with no legacy.We had to evolve to be interesting, and put up with your mediocrity.
>>85192034>This is why i never sleep with men.>They're gonna leave either waybecause they won't commit to you lmao
>>85192087Yeah so if a man is gonna leave, why have sex with him? Ive accepted men are shit. Look how many men complain about being alone, and look how many women go to singles events looking for a decent man.The average woman is stunning, the average man is a slob>>85192069You sound angry that you have to try.
>>85192108Your bait is boring. Men don't go to singles events because they have to pay for entry and pay for all the drinks, and women only go to these events so they can reject men for their egos. Also wash off that makeup and let's see how slobby women are
>>85192108>You sound angry that you have to try.I don't have toI would rather suffer for millions of years, and by sheer chance become a god, then create an interesting foid out of dust than try to find one among you. You will not be part of any of my incarnations except as a stranger, no matter which form you or I take on.
>>85191072it really is that simpleim starting to think whorishness and IQ are positively correlated
>>85192108>Yeah so if a man is gonna leave, why have sex with him?i thought you said you didn't care if a man commits to you or not, but you clearly have spent plenty of time thinking about this specific scenario.
>>85191080that's not what the foid in the OP is crying about roastie-kun!
>>85191072Maybe dont jump into bed with a guy right after the 1st date? Especially if you want to have an actual relationship with him? So many girls nowadays open their legs and throw their self respect and self worth right out the window when they see a chad. if you present yourself like an easy piece of meat men will treat you that way and see you as nothing more than one night stand material
>>85192034>>85192009maybe if you werent a judgemental bitch youd find a guy that wants to commit
>>85192010I tickled their funny bone too much.
>>85192160>you think carefully about situations And this is an insult? Ok retard>>85192144Theres always another guy, no one will miss you lol>>85192179Im not judgemental, i know my worth and i dont put up with shit from men
>>85192291>Theres always another guy, no one will miss you lolLike all things, given time
>>85192291everyone thinks carefully about shit they claim they don't give a shit about yes
>>85191072>Maybe stop fucking Chad?fuck you fuck you fuck you
>>85191080Have you considered a hobby other than getting spitroasted by BBC?
>>85191072Pussy was trash. I've never once ghosted a woman with good pussy. She probably had a long list of no's as well. I'll still hit, but you're not getting a round two unless my other plans fall through if you start off by telling me all the things you won't do.
>>85191991Basically yeah, then you go on long semen retention streak and realize you are not even worth fucking. Just pure energy vampires all around
>>85192877>Just pure energy vampires all around>would you like to get pizza and cuddle together>reeeeeee this is strealing my energy!!!
>>85191991I love these posts because you'll drop that entire act the moment some pretty boy makes your pussy tingle and then he'll fuck you and bounce and you'll be here crying about men.
>>85191072>get post nut clarity>realize the woman is actually a boring annoying retard>GTFO before horniness impairs your judgment again
Most foids do not deserve a relationship and they know this which is why they're so eager to offer sex.
>>85192971>would you like to lay around and get fatAre you actually retarded? You are proving me right
Women would literally rather go extinct than take responsibility for their actions.
>>85191991>This is why this site is so so so important. It really helps me understand. Men dont actually like women.I genuinely like women until they start the first bullshit argument, then I secretly resent them forever and pretend to forgive them.
>>85193003Plus you also realize if she fucked you on the first date she's definitely been around the block a bunch of times with other dudes. Had that happens not long ago. Didn't sleep with her but went on a date with a chick and she kept saying how she was going to blow me and shit and kept asking if my car had enough room and I knew she had probably sucked so many dudes off on dates. I let her blow me because I'm desperate as shit but then I unmatched her on fb dating and blocked her number. I even let her kiss me though, probably got hpv now.
>>85192986Nope, i learnt my lesson. All men are bad, its how you are programmed. Its in your DNA to hurt women, you probably arent even aware you are doing it.I just had a guy shout at me from a car to talk to him, i ran away, then two other men tried to talk to me, i walked away. I know your tricks, all men are bad. The only difference between men is some are easy to look at, and most are slobs
>>85191991>Men dont actually like women.Men love women, but that love is beaten off of them through repeated bad experiences with women.>just see them as walking walletsYou already do that instinctively anyway
>>85193015Haha go die alone, what are you doing here>>85193071>genuinely like womenI refuse to believe this>>85193095Mens idea of love is not killing a woman, just attacking her or smashing up her property. I have seen lots of hate but very little love from moids. If every man is going to be a piece of shit, might as well go for chad. Anyways your loneliness isnt my problem
>>85193092You don't type like a female fyi. Stop larping.
>>85193092>treat women as equals>they ignore you>act like a psychotic asshole>they like you>the worse you are the more they like youMaybe stop rewarding bad behavior. You literally force us to do this.
>>85191967this is because, while every dick likes to be touched the same way, every pussy is different. you think guys can't fuck because they donn't know how to fuck YOU, and i'd bet just anything you don't tell them either.when i guy fucks you "badly", he's doing the moves that worked great on some other girl or the moves a friend told him worked, because he thinks all pussies are the same, and he just has to find the universal move. the other thing that leads men to be bad in bed is being daunted. it's hard to maintain an erection if you feel yourself to be under scrutiny.casual sex is a scam. naked bodily contact with a complete stranger is not something most human beings are suited for. cycling through different men to find one that knows what to do won't satisfy you. you would have more success to carefully vet candidates for the opportunity to be the one man who know how to touch you properly.unfortunately, you may find that men don't won't to be the one to come in after the party to do work. it's hard to show devotion to someone who has shown themselves to be cheaply won.
>>85191967>1 in 10 know how to fuckAll this tells me is you've fucked a shit ton of dude you whore and you'll keep doing it despite the bullshit you say
>>85191080Sure, if you want then go ahead, more power to you.But stop fucking whining afterward if you get burned.
>>85193115I have a vagina, that you'll never ever touch lol>>85193131Thats why women divorce their abusive husbands ok>>85193210Strangely insightful wtf. Yeah that is true, i love my nipples being touched, im clitoral and not vaginal at all. Oh wow. Quite shocked by this post. I agree, sex is much nicer when you're comfortable and can explore each others bodies without pressure
>>85191967>1 in 10 know how to fuckprotip: men only put in effort when they actually care about you and plan on seeing you again
>>85193406This is so tiresome. The only thing you can spread is hate because that's the only thing you harbor inside
>>85193463I just wanted to be a mom:(>>85193430This is actually really sad.
>>85193406>Strangely insightfulthanks. i hope you'll think on what i said. i too, had some (very little) casual sex and found it unsatisfying.when i was a highschool virgin, i knew two co-workers who had a LOT of casual sex. they were both constantly trying to achieve a "perfect week" - sex with a different girl each day from monday to sunday. i watched them to see what it was that made them so good at bedding women. the way i saw it, i needed to discern two factors, their ability appeal to women, and their ability to be so comfortable with complete strangers.the first was very much a gentle giant. easily six foot six, and not the scrawny type. this guys fingers were like carrots. if the ratio of his finger width to dick width is constant to my own, it must be almost twice the girth of the lid to a carton of milk. as to why he was able to confident stripping down in front of someone he has known for only one evening, the man was as dumb as a rock. he woukd often mix words up exactly like ricky from trailer park boys ("memorized"/"mezmerized). i'd say he was just smart enough to sometimes play up how dumb he was, like being excused for being late because setting an alarm clock was confusing for him. he had very little ego and self awareness.the other was more complitaced, he was shorter than me, but had what i have to call "striking features". it was hard not to look at him. both he and i had blue eyes, but his were that extremely pale blue type that's even rarer, a-10 or something. i've heard that celebrities tend to have larger heads in proprtion to their body, he had that. the features if his skull were prominant. speaking to a woman, be she in a relatiinship or far older than him, he would slip into an "aw shucks" routine that was sure to charm them.as for why he was able to be so comfortable naked with a stranger, he had a complete disregard for other human and later robbed our boss.1/2
>>85193114You can't imagine a man liking a woman because no man has ever liked you.Kinda sad.
>>85194193This, sexist women are the common denominator of shitty men. It says more about them than it does about men. Scumbags attract scumbags etc.
>>85192193do tell pray tell
>>85191072r/trueuglywomen literally has a vendetta against incels I cant w women either theyre just so retarded
>>85194222I dated a girl like that once (we started as fwb). I actually deprogrammed her by showing her true love, desire and devotion once I caught feelings. She lost attraction after that, ended up in a dead bedroom, and she later dumped me. But she never called men gay ever again!!Totally worth it, bros...
>>85194251I don't get it honestly, why don't ugly bitches and incels just bury the hatchet and fuck? Everyone would be so much happier if they just had someone. I don't even get why there is so much hate between foids and moids. Maybe I just too old for this shit.
>>85194269If you were young itd still be old news that women are brainless
>>85194143our boss was well liked by all. he was a retired police officer selling christmas trees. what's more, the boss seemed especially fond of him, in fact he kept him on after firing his father for the same thing, skimming off the top.when he learned i was an atheist, whenever we went on deliveries, he would deride every church, every political institution, every academy, and every establishment ever. i had similiar feelings of nihilism and he turned me off to them. seeing someone seemingly so smart gnashing his teeth in his car like a caged rodent made me rethink things. he had been in the police academy, but most of the year he worked in the sewers, i'm not sure what his job title was, he did not say. he obviously cared nothing for the women, or for the men in his life, and only about himself enough to satisfy his appetites.i find that men who have success in casual sex fall into these two categories, lacking self awareness or lacking esteem for others, and that the two types adore each other's company and mix with hardly any distinction. the two i gave as examples were fast friends, had played on the same football team and they were in the boyscouts together as well, though the second dropped out. they both feel a little uncomfortable around the celibate man, the way you act when someone tells you not to take to lords name in vain or to to keep from ending a sentence with a preposition. they may put up with him or not, but they do not feel at ease around him and he is never one of their own.
>>85191991Men would die for women. Women would never die for their man. Simple as. Women on a fundemental level don't understand love and we know this because even now its men who have to pursue women, not the other way around.
>>85191072She probably has a stinky pussy
>>85193114>Haha go die alone, what are you doing hereWhat are you doing here if you hate men so much?
>>85194023yeah and thats what OP is applying about in this post. you as woman are going to be bombarded by so many men who are just down to fuck. you as a woman are still obligated to either 1. filter these men out 2. find the men who do want to provide for you. which is way harder now since there's so many of us with these traditional views about relationships that just full blown opted out dating, and they're out here grinding doing their own thing. And a fuck ton of us don't agree with giving a woman traditional trad treatment when majority of women aren't like that now. not saying you're like that. you just have to look at it from a guys perspective about it. which you know very well most women wont because it's not mandatory as opposed for a dude having to know women to gain a relationship. You're still are able to find guys like that. Women do have it easier in dating and still finding a dude to be with long term. It isn't the same for most men.
>>85194325Im so burnt out with men, im just done.
>>85191991I love how women will always come to the conclusion that men are all secretly gay and not that the vast majority of you are just uninteresting to talk too, unable to grasp simple metaphysical and ethical concepts and are incredibly neurotic about the most inconsequential things. Men enjoy other men's company because we often have to censor ourselves around women to not cause a problems with you. If your boyfriend wants to hang out with his friends more then he's probably walking on eggshells around you.
>>85194403The nice guys will treat women badly too, if they ever got the opportunity
>>85194355No you're not, for women the only thing in life that matters is men and getting dick.
>>85195615Because they start out nice and then realize how awful the woman they are being nice to actually is and quit trying. Just look at the rhetoric around any dude who even attempts to be nice, they are called rapist, phonies, pieces of shit, liars and betas by women lol. Why the fuck would anyone even bother being nice to women when being nice is blatantly treated as some kind of evil thing by the people you're being nice to. Even just the term nice guy is used as an insult by women. I swear you guys are awful people.
>>85195646I've never harmed you, but you would be horrible to me if you got the chance
>>85191080Crackheads just wanna have fun too. Crack is still bad retard
>>85191991Wtf is that logic? You are gay if you like hanging out with your own sex which everyone does. Lmao women are so retarded
>>85191991Nah. Men love women, and women love men, but both need to remember that it's folly to have the opposite sex as your "best friend". A woman to a man is a wife, a man to a woman is a husband. These are specific roles.If a man isn't committed to a woman, why wouldn't he leave after sex? If a woman isn't committed to a man, why wouldn't she leave whenever it fancies her?This is why sex used to be gated behind marriage. It forces the commitment.>don't even see them as humanA gross exaggeration and cements your inability to see reason.I saw a girl post about never showering or wiping. Were I to have your brain I should simply assume all women are stinky.
>>85191080>I genuinely feel like I will never find a healthy, safe man to love me.>What if we dont want to date ugly men and want to have some fun?the duality of (wo)man
>>85195615That's just a thought terminating cliche. Plenty of us would be nice to see one but they never ever give us a chance and never will, because they'd rather get abused by chads than settle for nice guy incels. The whole "incels MUST not be nice and MUST only be fake nice" thing is just the rationalization excuse women use to justify going for the shitty men they are attracted to
>>85191072Maybe he learned she is feminist, pro mass migration cunt, most men are conservative and want to have normal family. Should larp as practicing catholic next time.
>>85192034>If im so uninteresting, stop trying to fuck meYour mind isn't needed for your body to be used.>>85194269incels tend to be rejected from society and thus grow in a deviant / alternate way. they're not even always ugly, it can be lack of desire or just autism or anything else. though I guess lacking desire would be more volcel, but anyway.they are otherwise not normal internally, be it from the start or from many experiences.femcels are for the most part simply undesirable women who otherwise act normal. they're fat (most of them) or they're ugly (a rare few, most of the are average no matter how much their insecurity screams at them otherwise).however, and this is the key part: internally they are completely normal, the same as every other woman minus things like hobbies or interests. same mindset, same way of seeing a situation, same men they're interested in.so the conflict comes in two flavors:- incels interested in females, females are still females so go "eww no".- females display typical female behavior which is now a gross deterrent to the incel.this is on top of stuff that affects most male on female understanding; I would wager many anons here, myself included, have seen family court bullshit due to custody battles, false rape accusations, or something like that.The sensitive man sees family court hysteria, #metoo, and all other such social movements as hostile towards him / doesn't want to seem like "one of those guys", so he just opts out.It's not as if he's being approached by women in the first place. He has to constantly approach and face rejection numerous times for the mere possibility, why bother at that point. Easier to just accept being alone.You can even see the last embers of some anons in these types of threads. >I'm a femcel and blah blah>okay cool here's discord let's talk>nah>embers finally fade to ash
>>85194355protip: because you as a woman refuse to pursue men, you are self-selecting for the types of men who will attempt to pursue you.Thus you have the mainly low inhibition extrovert types, e.g. the retards, the wife beaters, you know, niggers, spiritually if not physically.Pretty yourself up, dress well, play with your hair, teehee a few times. That's what "attracting a man" looks like to you, and that's why you get people who don't actually know or care about those signals and thus you they just see "hey look, warm meat, muh dick".The utter irony in this is that men tend to be so floored by a woman asking them out, they have such a higher chance to say yes, women actually don't know how easy it is for them because they refuse to ever even entertain the possibility.
i am autistic so it is literally impossible for me to be attractive to women, even though i look like chad. my lack of assertiveness turns them off instantly. i am ruined potential to them, ffs i want to kms
>>85191991I love women and I want nothing more than to spend time with one, but finding one that puts the same energy as I do into a relationship is something I'll never ever fucking find because I will never have 5 people in my DMs like they always do.
>>85193114goddamn you seem like you dated nothing but women beaters so you think all men beat women, thats some depressing shitNo darlin, some of us actually do love, despite your delusions
>>85192291youre on 4chan with the rest of us, you dont have any fucking value, youre a bag of meat on a ball of dirt like the rest us and no matter what you do, have done or will continue to do, you are just a fuckin person, a cog, a piece of meat.Put the unearned ego away darling, its not foolin a soul.
>>85196002I been through a lot. What would you do if you were me, 6 men i met, 6 times ive had my entire soul destroyed.I dont want it anymore, i want to be alone and i want to be left alone by men. Im sick of men constantly talking to me, i cant go through this a 7th time
>>85193210Shut the fuck up, I have never been able to get a girl to suck me off because my head is too sensitive.
>>85196031I can smell your trauma through the fuckin internet, maybe stop telling the world that youre a punching bag for one? Not every dude is out to get you, stop dating poor dudes and minorities as a first. Find a dude with a car and a normal ass job, ask HIM out and go from there.
>>85196031NTA, but I sympathize with you.I've been there. I am there now.However, I do not allow myself to fall under such trite delusions.Me no longer desiring connection with women does not mean all women are evil or stupid or whatever. tl:dr;>i don't want to deal with menfair>all men are evilstupid
>>85196028No, humans arent that, we have feelings and desires, we can produce music, and art, and build nice buildings, and plant flowers
honestly i lowk feel bad for women. if i was exclusively attracted to evil women that use and dump me right after, i'd want to kms too
>>85194269Women don't want their looksmatches, we've gone through this time and time again. Ugly women still think they deserve Brad Pitt
>>85191080No one is allowed to have fun.
