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Vacuum images look so crisp
Whens the next shartship launch rumored to be taking place?inb4 two weeks
Dragonfly will be landing in Shangri-la dunes, and will fly north to Selk crater, just north of Titan's equator.It's scheduled to land in 2034, when Titan would be transitioning from Winter to Spring in the northern hemisphere, meaning the lakes will begin to evaporate as it warms. The primary mission goals for the initial 3 years of operation will hang around Selk crater exclusively. By the end of those 3 years, the northern hemisphere will be well into Spring, near the start of Summer, in which the most shallow lakes will have evaporated.Titan's circumference 10,052mi/16,177km. Assuming the all lakes in picrel are deep enough to not have evaporated, the closest lake to Selk crater is roughly 3,000mi/4,800km away.Dragonfly is planned to make one "hop" per Titan day (16 Earth days). A hop is expected to be at least 10 miles. Lets be generous and say 30mi per hop. This equates to 100 hops, or 1600 days (4.38 Earth years). Conceivably a mission extension could spend 4-5 years flying nonstop without breaks to the nearest lake. Unfortunately, we have no way to know where the nearest lakes will actually be, as by then (2042) the northern hemisphere will be deep into Summer, and all of the lakes closest to the equator mapped by Cassini will be gone. There won't be an orbiter on this mission to tell us where they are either. It's unlikely that a mission extension will be approved to search for the closest lakes.
>>16140092it really does frustrate me that it takes so long to get to the outer planets.
>>16140096maybe someone liked it, thought it was a good post and that it deserved to be in the real /sfg/ instead of in a gay early staged fake /sfg/
>>16140099you're impatient, you should take up fasting. fasting teaches patience and perseverance, do it occasionally and you'll become patient enough to set and reach long term goals
>>16140099Hope Dragonfly makes it. What frustrates me is that they changed the chief flight systems engineer from this dude that knew what he was talking about:https://youtu.be/u5sAoADS2yU?si=Zlwp4iT58pTtaHoK&t=1288to a literal Karen:https://dragonfly.jhuapl.edu/Our-Team/
>>16140113
remind that even the dry part of Titan is much more interesting than Mars.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqdhAkgoodIhow did i miss this?
>>16140118even Huygens' landing site resembled a dried-up lakebed, with rounded cobbles, and evidence of a shoreline and drainage channels. Strange, considering how close it is to the equator. maybe something going on Titan-Saturn similar to Milankovitch cycles on Earth impacting the seasons long term
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx4UzkzjERMepic content
>>16140137it rains even at the Equator but only every few decades or something. The area gets periodically flooded probably. Can't wait to see an actual photo
>>16140137>>16140140>According to a computer model, intense rainstorms should occur in normally rainless equatorial areas during Titan's vernal and autumnal equinoxes—enough liquid to carve out the type of channels that Huygens foundAccording to wikipedia
>>16140144So even if Dragonfly sticks around at the equator long enough (Titan year =29 earth years) we should see some rain. Considering it has an mmrtg it should last quite a while.
>>16140162that's based on one model, I read elsewhere that the equatorial rains could occur between decade/century long drought periods. in any case, it was 50% methane humidity at Huygens site, and oases are possible. imagine getting HD video of rain on Titan.
>>16140089Photos on earth could look like this too if we removed the atmosphere.
>>16140259Nah, I'm rather attached to breathing and blue skies
I want you to tell me when the fuck bombing from orbit will become a real thing... Please!
>>16140271I will tell you as soon as I find out. I promise you this
>>16140134Welp we're all waiting for you to give us the "quick run down" now that you've finished watching
>>16140276>probabilistic
>>16140278I'm being serious
>>16140268You'll never make it on mars than.>>16140271What even are the benefits to orbital bombardment? Surely conventional methods are cheaper, quicker and easier?
>>16140286>What even are the benefits to orbital bombardment?Large latent kinetic energy of the projectile, and that's basically it. Everything else about them is worse.
>>16140290So you basically have to be able to ship tons into orbit and then back again, and using them is an atrocity on par with using a nuke?Yeah they seem really pointless unless you really can't get bombers or missiles to where you want to strike I guess.
>>16140297Nah, the thing that makes Nukes atrocious is the lingering transmutated radioisotopes and radioactive bomb components. A kinetic kill vehicle is just a big bullet.
>>16140168>imagine getting HD video of rain on Titan.I hope the low bitrate allows this.
I sit in my mundane bedroom and all I want to do is explore the cosmos
>>16140286But you have to rule the air space to bomb convetionally, so bombing from orbit is good for taking out airports or such infrastructure out of literally nowhere.I've heard that kilogram in geostationary orbit is like $40k now, which is not so much for such tactical nifty.
>>16140342>I've heard that kilogram in geostationary orbit is like $40k nowis that the wholesale price?
>>16140090April.
>>16140390Ape Rill.Fag oT.
>>16140113>We will not be exploring the lakes of methane, as hydrocarbons are a systemic artifact of while male colonial racism.
>>16140086
>>16140385Yes.
Bros...
>>16140423
>>16140137Saturn has an entire AU between it's apohelion and perihelion (Nov 29 2032)
>>16140423oh no....
>>16140086The US government should seize SpaceX and make it a division of NASAMelon Husk has shown that he is too irresponsible to be running it
>>16140484E - Long Husk
And saddle them with that ShitShip!? Now way man. Nasa can get some responsible people, working on falcon 9 and perhaps delete the legs and whole reusability charade to make it actually cheaper, but no way you want to saddle them with that billion dollar boondoggle.
test
>>16140498FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
>>16140502why was the other thread deleted?
>>16140504schizophrenia most likely.
>>16140286Contrary to what most people believe the mars sky is actually blue, you can still see it at the right conditions.The reddish hue is only due to dust.
>>161400901.2 Ms
>>16140335do psychosislets really?
>>16140297>and using them is an atrocity on par with using a nuke?If you put a nuke up there, it's both an atrocity and also violating several treaties. Think of the possibilities!
>>16140532youre fucking idiotic. you are a clown
>>16140532it does look blue desu
not that anybody cared the last two times I brought it up, but USC's RPL failed their amateur space shot attempt over the weekend when a flight computer deployed parachutes early.
>>16140560>YANK!
>>16140089>>16140268Holy shit, could this be the missing link in 3d rendering? Not putting the camera and render scene in a volumetric body that mimics the properies of Earth's armosphere is what actually causes scenes to look too clean and sharp?
>>16140585idk? Is this a running problem in cgi today or something?
>>16140585Always has been. Blurring things asthey get away from the camera with depth of field is a cheap way to mimic the refraction in the atmosphere, but since gaymers don't like it a lot of amateur CG doesnt use it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbloJvehM0A>LIVE at SpaceX Starbase Perlite Vacuum Work and Tank Shell Demolitionits over (for the tanks)
>>16140600Spay sex has a crawler jsut like NASA but puny, where will the goalpost move next?
>>16140560they didn't check their staging? i guess they really are amateurs
>>16140599uhh pretty sure the atmosphere doesn't blur out it only dulls out the color
>>16140607it does both. It's why it's impossible to get a crisp shot of another planet from Earth
>>16140333Add a fission powered relay orbiter network, like Titanlink.
>>16140611ok
>>16140627CGI
>>16140633you play too much video-games
>>16140627>planet btw
>>16140627I hate space so fucking much bros.I ONLY like planets. everything between them exists solely to spite me
>>16140661We need to cross vast voids to get to any planet outside the solar system. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity.
>>16140671>We need to cross vast voids to get to any planet outside the solar systemand the only way to cross them is meme drives.
>>16140661Asteroids are okay and the ISM is cool...
>>16140671what are you talking about?
>>16140671*we need to cross vast voids inside the solar systemshit sucks
>>16140677wym?
>>16140649I love the fact that they just stuck new solar panels in front of the old ones, it looks so weird.
>>16140697should've detached the old ones and let it float away. They would've deorbited quickly ( high surface area to mass ratio )
>>16140585There is one more part: most scenes aren't looking through a camera with all its associated optical components, which add distortions of their own. Autism a simulated camera into existence (or even the limits of the Mark 1 Eyeball) and you get a more traditional experience.
>>16140745
>>16140747Space photos aren't 3D renders, silly.
>>16140751
/sfg/ deep dive>pre-Dec 2018Various unconnected launch threads>17 Dec 2018https://warosu.org/sci/thread/10223076Initial catalyst, quadruple launch thread, first boca chica pics>21 Dec 2018https://warosu.org/sci/thread/10223076#p10230858First suggestion of "spaceflight general">21 Dec 2018https://warosu.org/sci/thread/10231408SpaceX GPS launch thread, staged from previous launch thread>22 Dec 2018https://warosu.org/sci/thread/10231408#p10235763First collective OC>23 Dec 2018https://warosu.org/sci/thread/10237471First Starship/BFR discussion thread, starting relatively unbroken thread chain>18 Feb 2019https://warosu.org/sci/thread/10399256First thread with "spaceflight general" in subject linesome other notable moments->19 Apr 2019https://warosu.org/sci/thread/10562453#p10562640First suggestion to use /sfg/ in general name instead of /sg/>19 Apr 2019https://warosu.org/sci/thread/10571535First thread using /sfg/ in subject line>1 Aug 2019https://warosu.org/sci/thread/10853630#p10854978First post of SLS is real copypasta on /sfg/ (or /sci/ in general)>03 May 2020https://warosu.org/sci/thread/11632487#p11632831Creation of 4ASS>10 Aug 2020https://warosu.org/sci/thread/11993520#p11994869First Krystal post>09 Jun 2020https://warosu.org/sci/thread/11779749#p11780018First appearance of PROOONT-anon>07 Dec 2020https://warosu.org/sci/thread/12425748#p12430004First appearance of the Zubrin sniffer.
>>16140765appreciate this compilation of important historical events. I joined shortly after Perseverance landed so that must've been 2021. Time flies.
>>16140765Clear was Oct 6 2020https://warosu.org/sci/thread/12198491#p12199731
>>16140777Checked and added
>>16140765It's been a trip
>>16140765>first oc was the fairywelp im ruined. atleast ive been here longer than zubrin anon and krystoid. i submit to the fairygods.
>>16140765>>16140777>krystal predates clearThe blue fox is an /sfg/ tradition.I still remember the first time I was baited.
>>16140838You forcefeed it to us and everybody that sees if spits it out, Merc. It is not a tradition if only two people do it and everybody else hates it.
>>16140841I don't do it, but I don't hate it
>both of first krystalposts were porn on a blue board>one reply is him samefagging to justify posting more>the other two say fuck off>both posts deletedwhat did mercrantos mean by this?
I would be willing to add the launch schedule to the OP if you guys want, and other helpful links.
>>16140859I don't really need to see>falcon>falcon>falconat the start of every thread
>>16140866Well then how about just links to the launch schedule, and other things like the 24/7 NSF stream or LabPadres channel, things that you yourself can just go and observe instead of being required to change it?
>>16140866yeah, its trainspotting tier at this point (which tank watching isn't because that is speculating about the new hardware)
>>16140859No thanks. We prefer to keep the OP simple compared to all the other inferior generals
>>16140869Fair enough. Ill respect the tradition thats come in to place, I usually like keeping it the same for the most part as well
>>16140671The Atlantic ocean was once a vast void too
>>16140884I'm not happy about ocean either
>>16140888
>>16140589Always has been a problem, at least in photorealistic environments.>>16140745Oh shit yeah, I almost forgot. You can physically simulate a camera in most 3D programs with a physically based path/ray traced rendering engine.First time it all just sort of clicked for me was when I was playing with scenes featuring volumetric scattering, doubly so when putting the camera inside of a properly simulated atmosphere shader featuring raymarching and all that good shit.
>>16140910how bout you post some screenshots to substantiate your claims
>>16140765Is the /sci/archive working for x now?
>>16140923Yes https://warosu.org/sci/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=%22starship+will+never+fly%22
>>16140910youre retarded.
>>16140423Tom Meuller when he sees a cat apparently
>>16140765I'm so glad I slapped that giant Cirno on that OC
>>16140765Jesus where did the fucking time go
>>16140836
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvK-DujvpSYthoughts?
>>16140765I should really stop coming here
>>16140950don't forget, you're here forever
I don’t have EDS and I love Musk/SpaceX but recently Elon Musk has been growing more and more retarded, insufferable, and reddit-tier
Spaceflight industry has another shitposting CEO
>>16140980oh no no the twitter rocket trannies are not gonna like this onedo *clap* better *clap* !
>>16140980leftards lol
>>16140946>reeeeeing into the wilderness for a mate that can't hear you or doesn't carehe's literally me
>>16140976a good friend of mine earlier said that he had a terminal case of 9gag brain
bribby pibbys https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VapF-2BZyoY?
>>16140995and a bit of ifunny sprinkled on top, but yeah
>>16140928>>16140914
>>16140950Nobody gets off Elon's ride.
>>16140980You're missing an important contemporary event: https://nypost.com/2024/04/19/tech/google-ceo-says-office-not-a-place-to-debate-politics-after-firing-28-for-anti-israel-sit-ins/In other news the FAA finally made it impossible to pull a Varda:https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/22/faa_now_requires_reentry_vehicles/
>>16140914>model a physical camera inside your 3d software according to real world diagrams and formulas >render it in an unbiased renderer where light behaves it would in reality >it functions like a real camera>model a physically accurate planet or atmospheric volume with real world data >use the same scattering equations and other resources that are freely available to you regarding atmospheric properties such as haze, extinction, absorption, etc >it functions like a real atmospherethere is nothing to substantiate about this this is all basic and well understood shit in 3d graphics>>16140928the hell are you being a belligerent sook about
>>16141021it's also prohibitively expensive
How far is the billionaires "Fuck you and thank you for all the fish" plan coming along?
>>16141045That's a funny way to ask "hop when?" I like it.
>>16141051I don't know whats worse, being stranded on a new planet with a bunch of uppity snots who have no idea that a hoe can be a gardening implement, or being on an environmentally fucked planet with the remaining uppity snots that were not rich enough to hop.
really makes you think
>>16140745>Autism a simulated camera into existenceIt's not actually as autistic as you might think. Pixar created fully digital simulated cameras to use in their movies ages ago. Renderman has physical based cameras built-in with easy to model lenses through the RixProjection interface. Some people on the Corona forums created presets for them. Cinema 4D had a similar scene camera project. Indigo Renderer could do it in the late 2000s, so could Sketchup. People using LuxRender in Blender way back also managed to do it. Also heard V-Ray has a physical camera but I don't think that's the same from what I remember. >>16141024As always, when you're actually simulating something. Whether that'd be a camera or an atmosphere. The fact that we can even do this on our home computers to begin with now is a minor miracle. It also depends on whether or not the rendering code can actually handle it. Cycles for instance despite its prowess and efficiency (especially with K-Cycles) was notoriously fucking bad at doing volumetric scattering (at least as far as planetary atmospheres are concerned) to the point where you were literally better off making your own volumetric engine. And even then from what I remember when you get to stuff like adding haze the render times go up drastically. There are still some tricks you can utilize however to cut down the render times so much to the point where it is basically free. Relatively speaking.
>>16140980kek this guy reposted a stonetoss comic a while back about the dogs and intelligenceso much whining in the comments
>>16140841>clearschizo still is obsessed with one random twitter user to this daycompletely buck broken
>>16140980I watched that video. Milei looks unhinged but he actually speaks normally.
>>16141067Really does
>>16141086LMAO, reg bloat doing fuck all there
>>16141088The problem is that every time a law is passed that is supposed to cut down on emissions politicians (payed by industry) water it down and then you end up with shit like carbon credits, which means jack shit changes. And for some reason then the politicians throw in the environmental part with social or governance issues, that have literally nothing to do with it, but give the whole thing a bad rep because now it's the trannies who want to take away your rockets (they're obviously phallic and thus a sign of the patriarchy or something, build one that looks like a vagina...)The only people who profit here are business majors (consultants), lawyers and politicians.
>>16140976>>16140995it's the most peculiar thing. like he's always been a redditor the way he talks, but now it's sprinkled with fringe conservatism
>>16141085he has that ashkenazi look
>>16140276>it would only take them 2 years to send the power generation rovers to the moon if they had enough money>their tech eliminates the lunar dust problem because it runs a current through their hardware which deflects the dust
>>16141117oh and their power generation rover is undergoing testing at nasa
>>16140615no orbiter sorry
>>16141067>>16141086It really, really does.
hop when?
>>16141148two weeks
>>16141148when fusion reactors become viable, so in two weeks or so
>>16141148One fortnight
>>16141148When the chudmonkey sings
>>16141148a bakers dozen
We need to send more animals to space. I'm thinking a Basset Hound. Imagine all that droopy skin in 0g.
>>16141045The plan is for all the poors to leave, retard. The rich get a low pop pristine earth all to themselves.
>>16141175Retarded. What does that accomplish that hasnt already been done? Nothing
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/nasa-officially-greenlights-3-35-billion-mission-to-saturns-moon-titan/
>>16141205It accomplishes seeing all that droopy skin in 0g. Obviously. Dumbass.
>>16141194>pristineYeah after they clean up several whole continents of trash under every leaf, the ocean of fuck knows how much plastic and other garbage, aromatic rings and other persistent chemicals from the water cycle and micoplastic dust from every square inch of the globe.
>>16141124we have orbiter at home
>>16141210fucking stupid. cancel dragonfly
>>16141213all of which is surprisingly doable on a long enough time scale without the poors constantly adding new pollution
>>16141217you seem mad
https://twitter.com/blueorigin/status/1782526783616643225
>>16141205It'd be cute and fun
>>16141221yes i am.
>>16141222literally anyone on sfg could be an astronaut if they just grow up and swallow there pride
>>16141222Hey, I've historically lacked access to space, where's my seat?
>>16141227are you thinking that we're all do nothings that arent in the space industry or something? some of us are actually planning on going and making life choices on that yknow
>>16141222warlords' favorite nephews get rides on sounding rockets and bo gets a bunch of token minorities for their pr department. everybody wins
https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/1782394822285734209
https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1782410928094327030
>>16141210https://twitter.com/Dr_ThomasZ/status/1782485440458625474
irl Titan a smoggy shit
>>16141237Makes sense. Even if they don't get to 144 launches this year they're still going to push for an even bigger number in 2025 and drone ship turnaround has been a bit of a bottleneck.
>>16141105schizo take. not buying your bugs. not eting them too. iwill enjoy dying here on this earth if it makes you angry.
>>16141222>>16141194speak of the devil and he doth appear.
>>16141215why did someone put it in a sock?
*domes niggas from over the horizon*
>>16141058
>>16141240What missions were they spending more on during covid to try and keep on schedule?How does spending more on a mission -- because of “supply chain inefficiencies” -- keep it “on-schedule”? Is the money fixing the inefficiencies? I guess he means they had to pay more money and source from other vendors?Why does that, in turn, increase the cost of missions that had to be kicked down the road?I like dr zurb but “le covid” seems like such an easy cop-out answer
>>16140765>First Krystal post Based big blue tiddies
>>16141256It's just a bad render
>>16141267Some of it is increased overhead due to a longer timeline. Payroll and rent still need to be paid at JPL even if the government is locking everyone out of the office. The rest of it is total bullshit.
Starship is a render with a simulated camera
>>16141256They're building a museum building around the shuttle. The covers are to protect it from falling debris. [insert Challenger joke]
>>16141295Starship is real. You've seen it down at boca chica. We're building the pez dispenser. we have all the engines done. ready to be put on the test stand at starbase... I don't see any hardware for a blue moon lander, except that he's going to put astronauts on a cargo lander and that becomes the blue moon. it's not that easy in rocketry
>>16141306>we
Starship? Still a spaceplane
>>16141309Delusional
>>16141314New Glenn doesn't even have the strakes anymore
lipniggers will ignore this
toothfags will ignore this
>>16141314New Glenn can suck my dick
>>16141323Undeniable.
>>16140765>tfw I'm still here>I was that quad launch thread OP, among other things
>>16141327Red pill me on hydrazine fluorine
>>16141336woosh, your cancer now has cancer (but at high exhaust velocity)
>>16141336stupid frogposter
>>16141175The best pets in 0g would be genetically engineered octopuses. Very smart, able to jet themselves around in the air, many arms to hold onto things. The only problem is they live in the water but I think genetic engineering could rectify that. After all, they're related to snails and many snails live in the air. Splice some snail DNA into octopuses and they'd be good to go.
>>16141309
>>16141336good in theory, I don't know if its even used in practise because of the deadly nature of the chemicals involved.
>>16141234What is a swifty?
>>16141340Furthermore, as fish, they're already accustomed to moving around in three dimensions. All land animals except the particularly smart ones are likely unable to cope with life not bound to a 2d plane. Maybe monkeys could adapt.
>>16141343Taylor Swift fan iirc, there's something in the news about them right now
>>16141343you posted one
>>16141343something to do with taylor swift perhaps, but I dont understand the relevance.could be a reference to this account?https://twitter.com/DrVonBraun/status/1781186026897125398
>>16141126It's almost as if something caused productivity to accelerate making it easier for a person to do technical jobs more quickly in the 80's.
>>16141336
how many of you are actual boomers
>>16141336http://www.astronautix.com/l/lf2hydrazine.html>LF2/Hydrazine propellant. In the United States. In the 1960's the USAF sponsored development of engines by Bell and Rocketdyne using this propellant combination to power high-performance upper stages to replace the Agena and Transtage on the Atlas and Titan launch vehicles. However although test engines were built, fluorine was found to be just too toxic and reactive to be safely used as a propellant.>Specific impulse: 422 s. Specific impulse sea level: 363 s.Normally I'd expect a propulsion system with this much black magic in it to have better specific impulse, but it looks like the designs they were looking at were pressure-fed. I wouldn't want to have to design turbopumps that'd need to deal with fluorine either. https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19750020041/downloads/19750020041.pdfThere's also a NASA study from 1974, so while the idea might have been pushed back from active promotion it didn't completely go away after the wild days of the 1960s.
>>16141234>Tory's office is in ULA's generic office building in Centennial that you can see from the commuter train as it runs alongside I-25 going southlol, lmao even
>>16141361not that many I presume. ive heard redditores mischaracterise channers as all literal boomers, when you can be a younger man and still have a boomer worldview
>>16141359>a critical shortage of raw material held that one upkek
>>16141361there's like two actual oldspace boomers here
>>16141244yeah, starship is going to take a few years and be busy with HLS related things in the near term
>>16141356Neither are attributable to the introduction of modern digital compute technology: the timelines don't match up.
>>16141403
Woah guys a hydrazine fluorine rocket just flew over my ho-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
>>16140980This jew is destroying my country
>>16141412Is there any way this could be designed to throw away more engines?
>>16141415yeah
>>16141415asparagus staging
>>16141411Your country was a shithole before and it's a shithole now
>>16141364>>16141327lf2/ammonia > lf2/hydrazine http://www.astronautix.com/r/rd-301.html
kino
>>16141418Yeah but now its even more shithole
https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/1782565733580591402neutron isn't re-
>>16141412Mmmmmm, dooooooooonutsssssssss...
>>16141424does that water tower even fly?
>>16141424starship is going to be operational before neutron
>>16141419https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%94-301Decent specs, but it looks like RD-301 used a fuel rich staged combustion design. The closest the west ever came to putting together something like that was probably an expander cycle powered RL-10 that the Glenn Research Center modified to drink hydrogen-fluorine.
>>16141443Neutron first flight is 2024 so you wanna bet?
>>16141424>gay nigger rocket launching from high latitude>not fully reusable>will only be operational long after starship has been and swallowed up the entire marketwhy am i supposed to care again?
>>16141424-levant
>>16141456that seems kind of optimisticdo they even have a working engine?
>>16141457you significantly underestimate how long starship will take to swallow the market. falcon launches 120 a year these days and electron still does business.
>>16141468I sucked a shit out my girlfriends ass when rimming and had instant regret when my mouth was full. is this how Martian colonists will feel?
>>16141468imagine a timeline where spacex's capital expenditures went into falcon 9 production and new pads instead of starbase.
i dislike the shuttle.
>>16141105holy shit you have some insane /pol/brain
Lol
>>16141470post pics of gf?
>>16141336>hydrazine fluorineYou are like a little baby.Observe:
when will the next untethered EVA happen /sfg/?sometime in the next ten years?
new ASDS
>>16141513Jared will drift away when the kino IVA suit goes haywire
>>16141424Water towers at launch sites don't make rockets real. Blue Origin finished their giant water tower for LC-36 in, what, 2018?
>>16141513well artemis 3/4 won't have tethers for moonwalks so by the end of the decade at latest
>>16141517i read this as jewed
chinese spaceplane spotted. it looks like it's likely unmanned.https://www.twz.com/air/black-mystery-craft-spotted-slung-under-chinese-h-6-bomber
>>16141548Looks like a fighter
>>16141513why do untethered? clambering along the ISS by hand or using a Manned Maneuvering Unit works fine.
>>16140838averi is better
i keep getting starlink ads but i live in the city
https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/nasas-voyager-1-resumes-sending-engineering-updates-to-earth
>>16141224if it makes you feel better, nasa doesnt actually know much about the methane cycle on titan, so there's a chance dragonfly gets absolutely fucked in a torrential downpour, even at the equator
>>16140118cant wait to go swimming there one day
Everybody :)We should send a man to Titan.I know you probably object to this idea. Let me say this: IT DOESNT MATTER what you think. My idea is good 100% outside what you say.BONK
>>16141700>no landing legsholy fail
>>16141700...who did you think would disagree with you? We need that methane for outer system travel, if anything we should be be trying to rush people there asap once Mars is set up
>>16141707most likely it will be using little "feets" such as these to land uponThanks do you have any other objevtions?
>>16141709I just want to be prepared in case of a retard lurking here
>>16141710but you didn't draw those little "feet" thingies though
>>16141714They fold inside you daft kook
>>16141714And I didn't draw it !! Arrrrrgggggghh
>>16141716who's kook?
>>16141720YOU
>>16141498>Fluorine Boiloff Vent
>>16141700Man belongs wherever he wants to go and he'll do plenty well when he gets there -- including Titan.
Has there ever been a better man than this? Pictured
>>16141729>inb4 trumpFuck off
>>16141729Musk. Sneed and feed
>>16141732?>>16141733Strong choice
has there ever been a man that had more eye on the prize than this?
>>16141729only this great, GREAT man
>>16141734See >>16141737
>>16141740I'm sorry that happened
Nothing to see here, just two titans of spaceflight discussing the future of interplanetary humanity
>>16141743why was demeter fired? now he is a famous war hero
>>16141744He was uncircumcised, fortunately measures were taken to correct this moral failing
>>16141746American scum
>>16141760learn manners, subhuman
>>16141746So you are on the side of the jews?
>>16141763The joke went over your head like an American broomstick
>>16141336https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX-0Xw6kkrc
We are the new Gods
>>16141555could maybe be something like an x-38 although i doubt they'd have a use for one
Today's not our day Ausbros...
>>16141800>30 day notification periodRemember amerimutt bros it doesn’t have to get better but it can always get worse
>>16141809Is australia FAA worse than America FAA? :/
>>16141737stupid nigger lol
Anyone from here going? It's like a thousand euros though...https://www.iac2024.org/registration-accommodation/registration/
>>16141105>The problem isuseful idiots like you and green pinkos giving a free pass to actual ghoulish pollution pits like CHYNA and pajeetia. Which, if the industrial wastelands aint enough, are actively trying to kill off the ocean ecology on top of that with absolute scorched earth style poacher fishing fleets.While whining on the already gimped western world killing le planet that is shooting itself in the foot constantly with nonsense over regulation killing actually viable alternatives like nuclear most cringe part is that the vast majority of you are not even actively recruited for this for something like monetary rewards. You just do it since you have no clue what is going on beyond the horizon. Literal Not In My BackYardism (NIMBY)
>>16141763we're on the side of Zigger genocide lol
>>16141819>Is Australia worse than the USAin everything except for cool marsupials, yesand potentially beer and long stretches of nothing
>>16141800
>>16141900agreed, our burger marsupials are ugly
>>16141777the dome is impenetrable even to this massive rocket.
>>16141763>he doesn't know
greenland could maybe become habitable with starship launches.
Europa already is habitable we just need to get a little vial of earth fungi down there in the ocean.
Europa already has lots of people on it, its presentlyt the theatre of a major war, sweaty...
>>16141981>>16141746Was the birthday neutering ever confirmed? I remember hearing recently that it had been confirmed, but that might have been a dream.
>>16141996There's honestly more people there than I thought. How long till we have 10s of thousands of people on Mars?
>>16142030Greenland and Faroe islands are self sustaining (to extent any smol country is), not 100% reliant on external supplies like McMurdo station.McMurdo station, Population: summer 1000, winter 153
>>16142044>McMurdo stationWhat do they do there? What's the endgame for Antarctic bases?
>>16142050mainly astronomers, physicist, climate scientists and so on are therei guess other ones too
>>16142050research, but also to stake a claim on that nomans land
>>16141361I'm in my 40's, which makes me a Boomer by meme standards. My parents were at the tail end of the Boomer generation.
>>16141411What is he doing wrong? He seems to be moving things in the right direction. I only hesitate to support him because Penrose is against Milei cutting government funding for science. Still, that seems reasonable given that their economy is in the gutter.
>>16141411Hopefully after he finishes you'll have a country where most jobs aren't government jobs, your pesos aren't toilet paper and you don't take a loan from the IMF every couple of years.
>>16142127When jewlei finishes there wont be any jobs
https://twitter.com/SpaceNosey/status/1782749954798186517
>>16142142It's amazing how both of these manage to be truly awful in different ways.
>>16142145let's see your preferred space suit design.
>>16142151not him, but counter pressure suit
>>16142153Have you solved maintaining pressure to the genitals and anus?
>>16141361I'm a 33yo boomer
...only a beginning!50+ years and counting
>>16142156leaking valves are nothing new in space flight
>>16142151
>>16142177
>>16141777>we
Why don't we get visits from flat earthers anymore?Are we that unpopular? What went wrong?
>>16142215those posters have been reallocated to more urgent tasks since october
>>16142145lmao this>>16142151only the GOAT
>>16142225>its da joozshut up
>>16142247It actually is.
>>16142044>Greenland and Faroe islands are self sustainingwhere do they make their steel and computer chips?
>>16142024He threw a tantrum on Twitter when an anon asked him about it so probably.
>>16142259Anon, how do you think people were self sustaining before either of those things were invented?Also, I recognize this from the mars colony debate. Why are you so obsessed with computer chips?
>>16142271>Anon, how do you think people were self sustaining before either of those things were invented?They didn't go places those were required for survival.
>>16142259yes anon. no modern society can exist that is truly independent from global geopolitics. when "self sustaining" mars colonies happen, they will not be truly independent from solar systempolitics.
>>16142271>Why are you so obsessed with computer chips?nta. But I make a good point. I guess they will have to import intel chips from Earth then. Imagine the shipping costs.
>>16142276>>16142285You can survive, even farm in greenland without steel and computer chips.As for mars, If they can use locally produced alternatives, they will. They'll likely do that even if those locally produced alternatives are much less efficient; because as you say, anything produced on earth will be prohibitively expensive unless it's given freely. You don't need modern computer chips for a self sustaining mars base.
How can I convince (you) that underground habitats are the way to go?
https://x.com/arianegroup/status/1782816795948150876Fucking retarded frogniggers dont even know their own audience.
>>16142301Pay me
>>16141996Why doesnt the USA send colonists to Greenland?
New Zealand could maybe become habitable with starship launches.
>>16142304>mfw KSP gives me a contract with argument of periapsis specified
>>16142301Can I have a huge glass window on a cliff face like in Minecraft? That's pretty comfy.
>>16142333
>>16142301You don't need to. I prefer the term 'geofront'.
>>16142338based
>>16142338One day, brother
Boullée on Mars when?
>>16142359>Mars Great Hall
>>16142364imagine the self supporting domes you could build in 38% gravity
>>16142364Reminder that lunar gravity will allow buildings even more impressive
>>16142156lunar buttplug obviously.
>>16142373i'm not sure if those exact numbers are accurate, but yeah capillary action would be a lot more effective at moving water up plants.imagine a redwood growing on mars with 1bar atmosphere.
Nelson bros they're laughing at us! China's laughing at us!
>>16142215I have seen no irrefutable evidence that flat earthers exist. When someone tells me they believe the earth is flat, I deny they believe it. I can't see their beliefs. As a skeptic that's not the sort of thing I believe in.
>>16142301why go to space when we have so many delicious roggs here on earth?
>>16142399This is compelling
>>16142364why do they have a fucking altar? they'd better be worshiping Elon
>>16141361>implying early zoomers aren't autistic about space
>>16142406Chill there's a version without it
>uoogh aargh I'm gonna flAAAAAAAREEEEEEEEEWTF is their problem?
>>16142416red dwarves are the niggers of starsorange dwarves are pajeet/beaner tieryellow dwarves are Aryan
>>16142416they want to strip their planets of their atmospheres.
>>16142419Perverts.
>>16142419It's about time somebody removed that thing.
>>16142416It's pooping :)
>>16142419gibs me dat aamosfeer t. nigstar
>>16142271because to be truly fully sustainable, computer chips are criticallife on mars without computer chips will not be possibleand lets say all computers just stopped existing on earth and we would not be able to build more, you would probably lose something like 95% of the population due to starvation
>>16142426I hope this is bait.
>>16142426>95%I doubt that. there were ~2.3 billion people in 1940 before the first computers were invented. we could probably sustain more than that on machines that exist now and do not require computers to continue operation, although we would struggle to build more of them
computers are nonessential in today's world. Just look at what they were able to build without any computers.
new bread?
>>16142434we should convert those useless triangles into data centers
>>16142423>It's pooping :)SILENCE
>>16142418what about F- & A- dwarves
>>16142441The Sahara dessert offers bad cooling performance
>>16142434>wow some niggers stacked rocks in a pile just like my marvel movie!why are pyramidchuds so overrated?
>>16142416Any update on that theory about M-Dwarf stars actually flaring out of their poles rather than equators? Has that been proven or disproven yet?
>>16142446Then it is time to terraform the Sahara. We need the practice anyway.
>>16142452why don't we just park a telescope observing Proxima Centauri 24/7 to find out?
>>16142452Some eggheads a while back managed to "determine" that on fully convective stars (so not all red dwarf stars, only those with 0.25 solar masses) the flares originate at latitudes above 55-81 degrees. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2108.01917.pdfI don't think any further studies have been published since though.
>>16142445Don't really live long enough to give life a chance so they're out of contention. I consider late F dwarves to be also Aryan. Mismatched binaries and so forth can be considered miscegenation
>>16142453I suggest filling those depressions in the Sahara with water. The evaporation will cause rain.
>>16142464This in conjunction with arab cloud-seeders to darken the skies might go far in dampening the sand. Creating some inland seas should lower the overall temperature by a few degrees and foster green growth in time. If we can't reclaim desert areas of our own planet then we're gonna have a hard time foresting Mars.
>>16142462>Don't really live long enough to give life a chance so they're out of contentionSintists seem to think they still have a shot even if it's on a knife edge compared to the G dwarf starshttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitability_of_F-type_main-sequence_star_systemsAt the same time they'd probably be the most similar to our sun out of any other star when positioned properly despite emotting more UV radiation, skies would also look more similar than K dwarf stars I thinkI also hear those K dwarf stars tend to emit a shitton of x rays for some reason so like fuck
>>16142490K dwarves emit Xrays because of the alien civilizations around them (they communicate using Xrays because it's superior to low energy transmission especially over long distances). Simple as.
If things go to plan, a RocketLab Electron and SpaceX Falcon 9 will launch within minutes of each other in a few hours.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1782851726527328758Musk agreeing with a post about an inevitable war (perhaps civil war)
>>16142503not spaceflight kill yourself
>>16142407i... am an early zoomer myself and plan to go to mars. how was my post implying that?
>>16142504a self sufficient mars colony needs to happen ASAP
>>16142504He's obviously talking about the impeding Cybertronian civil war in the constellation of Scorpius.
>>16142499sounds about as probable as all the xraying (dirty cheaters) k-dwarf stars somehow being thorne-żyktów objects
>>16142429Everything is computer based now, we don't have the hardware and systems to run things like they were run in 1940the population would rise again, but I think during the scramble there would be massive starvation
>>16142516>10kg payloadAll that effort for a payload that can't do anything.
>>16142529picosats are the future chud
>>16142502It would be cool if they crashed into each other.
>>16142517just you wait and see.
>>16142534No that wouldnt be "cool"
>>16142532the fuck are picosats, even smaller than cubesats now??
>>16142561A deck of cards, opens and dispenses paper-thin nanosats for micro-swarms.
What exactly is wrong with orion's heat shield, and why is it taking so long to fix?
>>16142532i really really like this image!
>>16142581nothing and because nothing is wrong with it
>>161425815% off expected extensive extremely expensive 3D CFD modeling simulation behavior on NASA supercomputers requires 1 year delay and lots of engineering analysis to better align with our holy models pls understand
>>16142581Go fever led to dangerous installation of heat shield...
>>16142367None above ground. The pressure differential would yeet them into the sky.
>>16142581
>>16142590just don't pressurize them ezpz
>>16142590Could that be exploited to lift payloads?
>>16142614not with less effort than just tanking up more methalox
“Now is not the time for decreasing or flat space budgets,” said retired Gen. John Raymond, the former head of the Space Force. “China is not slowing down.” lets goo
Clapback: Rep. Carlos Gimenez (R-FL) sharply questioned the witnesses at the China select committee roundtable on why it’s taking so long to get back to the Moon when Apollo happened more than five decades ago. “What the heck is going on and why aren’t we there already?” he said. “Why is it that these systems are taking so long to develop when we were there 50 years ago?”Former NASA chief Jim Bridenstine’s TLDR answer: take a look in the mirror. “We have had programs started and stopped with the whimsical budgets of politicians,” he said. “It is starts and stops and wasted billions of dollars and lots of time.”BASED JIM calling them the fuck out
>>16142503this is the way to martian independence
>>16142619btfo
>>16142619The Trump administration had amazing appointments and leaders in spaceflight. now it's all women and niggers, pardon me
>>16142532>la cretura triangulo
>>16142534that would be a neat trick, there is a little obstacle in the way (the entire planet Earth)
>>16142654It would be nice if it landed on a certain Federal building
>>16142416With the news of red dwarf stars most probably being uninhabitable, I do find it morbidly amusing how the Copernican principle keeps getting BTFO'd time and time again. To the point where we've gone full circle in thinking the Solar System, our parent star, and our homeworld being normalfag tier, nothing special, to realizing we are most probably the freaks, the outlier, a unicron among the stars.
>>16142663Single G series stars are still common as fuck.
>2 launches 2 minutes apart
>>16142670what are the chances they hit each other
>>16142668Yes. System configurations like ours, where the gas giants all migrated outwards and the smaller planets remained inside are similarly uncommon. Now down-select stars that ended up having a giant moon forming collision like ours and were seeded with sufficient quantities of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen, and had the right conditions to avoid having its atmosphere stripped away by some cosmic event or another, and then actually have life form on it, and things start looking outrageously unlikely. We're here, so obviously the existence of life is possible, but our inability to find evidence of it anywhere else speaks to the combination of factors that resulted in Life On Earth As We Know It being outrageously unlikely.
>>1614267350/50
>>16142675if that's true i think they need to call off the launch?
>>16142674>System configurations like ours, where the gas giants all migrated outwards and the smaller planets remained inside are similarly uncommonYeah, those star systems we find with multiple Jupiter mass worlds huddled up within 1 AU of the primary freak me out. It wasn't supposed to be like this!
>>16142674We cant say that without a sufficient exoplanet atmosphere survey. At this time we cant even resolve Earth size planets around sunlike stars
>>16142680You don't actually need to resolve a planet to get an absorption spectrum with transit spectroscopy, but better instruments do make it a lot easier to see a planet's atmospheric blockage without being overwhelmed by the luminosity of the host star. Yeah, more data is needed, but the initial data isn't promising.
>>16142674>ended up having a giant moon forming collision like oursI guess an exomoon won't have wonky obliquity but the environment around a gas giant in a stellar HZ doesn't seem too good either
>>16142633the of colour and women started with Artemis. did trump do anything to fix that? I swear to god you don't know fucking anything about spaceflight. you don't even know what we liked about trumps tenure in terms of spaceflight
>>16142701You're getting emotional
I dobt beleive that a rendevouz of orion and starship will ever happen, it will look too goofy.
>>16142711goofy ahhh :skull:
>>16142711That's why it will be Dragon and Starship
>>16142711they can rendezvous and just not take any pictures of it to protect all parties involved from embarrassment
>>16142633>>16142701would it be better for the first artemis landing to have a black man and a white woman or have a black woman? the latter only wastes one seat on the token passenger, but with the former there's a legitimate chance that both are really qualified to be there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9izutzETw1UT-18 minutes for Rocket Labhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQP5Jv-D3WwT-20 minutes for SpaceX
>>16142670Rocket Lab livehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9izutzETw1Uwill they break the solar sail curse?
>>16142663>>16142674>can't have an M-type due to constant flares/tidal locking/small HCZ or just insufficient visible light for photosynthesis >K-type looking unlikely due to intense X-Ray/UV radiation early in life>F-type similar but likely too short lived>ditto for A9/B8V type (which are also hot)>B/O-types exist to eat shit (and look pretty doing so) >star has to be in the galactic HCZ away from core regions and active supernovae and star forming regions >need a quiet FGK solar analog >sufficiently high metallicity, formed in a cloud with enough poison >gas cloud needs heavy radioactive elements>also need high amount of phosphorus for organics >likely need enough material to form gas giants to shepherd debris but also deliver them to the inner planets via impacts>the planets themselves need a strong magnetosphere, thick atmosphere at minimum>need enough mass, radioactivity, and subsurface bridgmanite to generate and convect internal heat >active plate tectonics and volcanism courtesy of tidal forces from a non-locked star and a large moon(s) >said moon likely created through a giant grazing planetary collision>atmospheric pressure and composition has to be sufficient to not cause exceed acidity, crushing, or a runaway greenhouse hell >need a solvent for life such as water or ammonia, for technological civilizations to arise you also need to be able to set things on fire which requires an oxygen atmosphere to do efficiently You can't have this many (and at least a dozen more things I'm probably forgetting on the top of my head) criteria or things going against habitability and abiogenesis and not realize the Copernican principle is more likely than not (unless somehow proven otherwise) a bunch of pretentious conundrums of philosophy.
>>16142722Modern philosophers have a craven lust for mediocrity.
>>16142722yeah
ScrubLab
>>16142721>HOLDmaybe not
>>16142722You also need a few specific rock types in the mantle (I forgot their name) or else no life
we've entered into the planned scrub phase of the mission. everything is proceeding nominally.
>>16142739oh great, another paper geologist here to tell us why muh lignite is the key to life please give my research feild more money
>>16142742kek
Its time for your weekly quote of Starlink launch watching
Will ScrubX match ScrubLab?!
>>16142722Does our sun actually have more in common with F-dwarfs than K-dwarfs? Sol is already among the hottest and luminous stars within its class. An F7-F9 would still probably look more similar in our sky than the K dwarf even with the large jump in UV radiation.
>>16142722>K-type>have to do a early life check As above, so below
The universe if all stars above 0.35 solar masses were still fully convective (they could use all their hydrogen fuel).
okay RocketLab you're up
>>16142411why aren't they worshiping Elon?!
>>16142763he told them no god or kings only Man
>>16141405littering, and?
>>16142762count resumed!
>>16142771too late
>>16142722You forgot that carbon is also still the most probable and suitable element for biomechanics. Silicon as cool as it is does not allow for as many reactions and is thus likely a meme. This is even before you get to the dozens of great filters like life self destructing (as it almost did during the snowball period) or through stuff like gravity being too high. Either way, carbon is also necessary.
One shaky Falcon 9 S2
300 landings
>>16142781CGI
>>16142720300th Falcon 9 first stage landing: a perfect bullseye!
>>16141659
>>16142674>System configurations like ours, where the gas giants all migrated outwards and the smaller planets remained inside are similarly uncommon.That's not at all clear at all. The current statistics are horribly biased towards short periods transting planets. Those surveys are very pretty much blind to long period planets like Jupiter. Most of the rich systems are either all low mass or all high mass, because of selection effects of different techniques. Today there are basically zero systems where there is a good measurement of both. >our inability to find evidence of it anywhere else What bullshit. If the a planet like the Earth was orbiting every other star in the galaxy with we could not measure a single biosignature today. Zero. Our inability to find life is certainly limited by current technology.>>16142682Current transit spectroscopy can say almost nothing about terrestrial planets around G stars. 95% of the current effort is on M stars, or massive planets.
>>16142721Rocket Lab launches are quite pastoral, with the rolling fields of grass and all the bird tweeting in the background
>>16142791yeah hopefully they figure out how to crank up the gravitas with neutron
>>16142722copernican principle is a nonsense dogma. it more than anything is a knee jerk contrarian position taken against the geocentric religious model of the unvierse. In copernicuses time he didnt know any better, now we know its clearly false so people who still parrot it are nuts.Maybe there are a small number of other planets in our galaxy which meet every criteria for civilization, but never develop one due to that too being exceedingly rare. Hundreds of great filters along the biological path, its wild to think about. Even if our planet ticked every single box and jumped every hurdle and humans reached domiance, if europe never evloded white people then we would not have achieved spaceflight. I firmly beleive that we dont see evidence of aliens because we are the first, perhaps alone in a great span of galaxies. It makes our mission to conquor all the more important.
>>16142793it will be launching from Wallops instead of Mahia so it'll be more dignified by default
>>16142793are u saying theres a shortfall of gravitas
This is not good
uhhh.... guys...
What's that orange flame coming out the side for?
>>16142799>>16142801>>16142803it can still ride the sail to orbit, right?
something just fell off!
>dumps batteries into the seaNot my problem m8
>>16142807The depleted battery packs for the Rutherford engine on S2.
>>16142790>The current statistics are horribly biased towards short periods transting planets. Those surveys are very pretty much blind to long period planets like Jupiter.2008 wants its copes back. 'muh selection effects' won't cut it, these stellar systems really are fucked up and very common
>>16142810it's over omfg
SIGNAL LOSTit's overSTOCK DROPPING!!11
>>16142809doing their best to be environmentally conscious by recharging the electric eels
>>16142820+3 ESG score to RocketLab
>>16142673>what are the chances they hit each other>Florida>New Zealandoh they're going to be on a collision course for sure, better take cover
>>16142722You can make anything seem unlikely by listing out every single conditon. And many of them are redudant, It is just silly to write the requirement for a sample size of one. You also totally fail to account for the anthropic principle.>the Copernican principle is more likely than not (unless somehow proven otherwise) a bunch of pretentious conundrums of philosophy.I don't think you understand the principle. It does not mean where we live must be like everywhere in the universe. Clearly that is wrong since we live on a planet, most of the universe is nearly empty. It has nothing to do with exoplanets or life. The point is that our position should not be special when observing the universe on large scales. For example of you said that the whole universe was a sphere centered on the Earth. If we lived in any other galaxy we would see something fundamentally different. But our perspective is essentially random, there is no reason it should be privileged. It's really only a thing in cosmology, talking about it and abiogenesis is just gibberish.
>>16142812Which systems are well enough measured to see both jovian (periods beyond 5 years) and terrestrial planets? List 5. No M stars.
>>16142826>You also totally fail to account for the anthropic principle.There's more than one tenet to the Anthropic Principal; obviously, the universe must be conducive to life in some manner because it contains us, but the potentially erroneous aspect is the ironclad belief that the mediocrity principal also applies.
>>16142823isnt it more likely to hit in space because orbits cross? obv not at launch doofus
>>16142829> Any minute now we're going to a glut of find star systems resembling ours! Two more weeks!
>>16142844More like decades. Depending on how QI works out it may be easier to send actual probes to nearby stars than to try and resolve their terrestrial planets from here.
>>16142795>In copernicuses time he didnt know any better, now we know its clearly false so people who still parrot it are nutsWasn't it Carl Sagan who popularized it?
>>16142844Kepler 90. And look. Giant planets on the outside. Little planets packed into the center. >>16142846>Depending on how QI works It doesn't.
>>16142795>If European people never evolved then we would not have achieved spaceflight.I wish more people on this planet realized the importance of this fact. Because it seems the idea of mediocrity is also being applied to civilizations when they clearly are not equal; only one was ever capable of gazing towards the stars and setting foot on the heavens organically on their own. Anything else afterwards is merely a derivative imitation, courtesy of one being goaded into uplifting those less developed. Consequently, if the bandits running the planet succeed in their petty revenge and eliminate the Europeans this planet will likely never have the brains nor soul to become a proper space faring civilization before self-destructing in some way.
>>16142852>Uranus sized planets are now counted as earthlikekeplertrannies.... we went too far.
>>16142852wow! look at all those mini neptunes. bet they're hot too
>>16142826>I don't think you understand the principle. It does not mean where we live must be like everywhere in the universe.We supposedly don't occupy a special position in the universe and yet we seem to have overwhelming evidence to the contrary ever since we looked towards the stars with what instruments we have at our disposal.>>16142837Also this.
>>16142852>Kepler-90, also designated 2MASS J18574403+4918185, is a F-type star located about 2,790 light-years (855 pc) from Earth in the constellation of Draco.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCpEVIgDwZE
trump OP threads are always the WOOOOOOOOORST. not even because orange man bad but because the trump shill is just so. fucking. annoying. withe his blatant shilling
>>16142852LOOK AT ALL THOSE CHICKENS>>16142855The bigger the star, the bigger the planets; more material in that protoplanetary disc is available. Imagine how large the F-type systems might be. Impressive that it could produce so many planets. These star systems among large stars a step above our sun may very well be the exotic among the exotic.
>>16142862what does that say about Alpha Centauri then, big enough for 2 big stars...
oh shit a solar sail experiment
>>16142852>Kepler 90.The issue is not whether *any* stellar systems resemble ours - in a large enough sample you are bound to find some - but what is their relative frequency compared to the 'degenerate' ones with loads of gas giants and super Neptunes all crammed around their primary. At some point you have to bite the bullet and admit systems like ours are rare.
>>16141636Is that the racist spic fox?
>>16142865yeah! but they are ending the livestream before even the orbit raising burn. (First Korean payload just deployed.)
>>16142866Rare events happen all the time
>>16142857>We supposedly don't occupy a special position in the universe and yet we seem to have overwhelming evidence to the contrary ever since we looked towards the stars with what instruments we have at our disposal.Maybe read the rest of what I wrote. It has nothing to do with stars or life. >>16142837>the potentially erroneous aspect is the ironclad belief that the mediocrity principal also applies.Funny you mention this now after describing how special our conditions are, without ever mentioning that other life may have different "requirements". We search for life as we know it because we have no idea how to search for anything else. Sample size of 1.
https://iaaspace.org/wp-content/uploads/iaa/Scientific%20Activity/conf/pdc2013/IAA-PDC13-04-20.pdf
>>16142865>>16142868Activates 1-2 months after separation
>>16141659woot!
Why are F-type stars so fascinating bros?
>>16142878because their white? I mean our "yellow" sun is actually white too, just that its spectrum peaks in the yellow.
>>16142862>may very well be the exotic among the exotic.Hardly. There are only 3 times more G stars than F. Together they make up 10% of stars. In one galaxy of hundreds of billions of stars this is not "exotic".
He doesnt' really care about asteroids. He doesn't really care about Mars either, its more of like appearance thing. Like politician sometime can go to MacDonalds before elections to show people that he is just like you, and every MacDonalds consumer is like "Wow, politician X is just like me!" and they go vote for him - Musk is doing the same thing with Mars, just appealing for the crowd of sci-fi kids who also really don't care about Mars, and just read a few reddit posts and probably saw Martian once. So when this Mars entertainment consumer sees Musk say something about Mars, in their tiny brain neuron activation happens, pattern gets recognized and they are like - COOOL, MUSK IS JUST LIKE ME! I'll GIVE MY LIFE FOR YOU KING ELON! HAIL MARS!I remember when Perseverence rover landed and it was like a super-spectacular and important event for everyone who loves Mars, Musk hasn't tweeted about it for 2 days and probably when peopl bothered him with it, he twitted once. Recently Ingenuity hellicopter died on Mars. Has he twitted about it? Nope. In fact you can go to Musk's twitter and scroll his posting history for all 2024 and try to find him mention Mars once. It can clearly indicate to you how much he cares about old dusty cold crusty red nasty.And since Asteroids don't have a large fanbase, that he can appropriate by the shallow virtue signalling, he is not even going to bother with asteroids. Maybe in 2029 a few days after Apophis will pass and everyone will already say everything, Musk will tweet CGI of his starship saying some dumb thing like "My starship could deliver a nuke to asteroid and save the day!" and attach some boomer tier Armageddon movie screencap or edit of this movie's poster with his face photoshoped in by AI. Thats all you can hope for.
>>16142880>just that its spectrum peaks in the yellow.nuh uh
>>16142883
>>16142888its true
Any cool memes today?
>>16142885WHAT ARE THOSE BITS FALLING OFF?
>>16142774>gravity being too highWhy would this matter?
>>16142880pretty sure if we go by visible light and use kelvin color temperature F types start leaning towards light blue or a cool white.
NEW BOCA CHICA ROAD CLOSURESBooster rollout to Massey's though so still two more weeks.
>>16142893escape velocityplanet is just a fancy word for a gravity prisonthat's why mini neptunes dont worksurface gravity on neptune id earthlike bit escape velo is 2x
what does F stand for thoe?
>>16142892door plugs from the spacex rocket, just as bad as boeing
>>16142897Hop? HOP?????
>>16142898And? It just means that any advanced life would be delayed in getting off.
>>16142899Fart!
>>16142903Not hop, though they DO have a new flame trench they installed
>>16142914the monke jealos
>>16142914buy an ad
>>16142914flatearther on the left
>>16142914pretty good
>>16142924>>16142920>>16142919>>16142918>>16142917>>16142914all me
>As the spacecraft began its climb outward from Earth, several amateur astronomers in the UK photographed a fuel dump from the expended S-IVB stage shortly after 18:00 UT on December 21, 1968. This event was seen, without prior notification, by F. Kent, Alan Heath, and M.J. Oates, who reports catching the cloud visually while getting off a bus.> The May 1969 article in Sky and Telescope notes that the S-IVB vented fuel (liquid hydrogen) and oxidizer (liquid oxygen) separately in perpendicular directions, which appears in the two distinct clouds herehttps://pages.astronomy.ua.edu/keel/space/apollo.htmlWill the HLS give us fuel dump kino?
>>16142936yes
Atlas rocket added to the US Air Force Museum missile collection. In Dayton, Ohio.
300th LANDINGIts hard to do 300 launch let along 300 landing
nigger
>>16142941How many times did Delta IV launched?
>>16142914>>16142917>>16142918>>16142919>>16142920>>16142924>>16142927All me by the way
>>16142946>>16142927>>16142924shut the fuck up
>>16142940dildos to no where for astro-NOTS to ride on!
>>16142949Then stop samefagging
>>16142951this comment goes hard
>>16142954
>>16142959IMPOSTORR!
>>16142959
>Terrestrial Impact from the Passage of the Solar System through a Cold Cloud a Few Million Years Ago>It is expected that as the Sun travels through the interstellar medium (ISM), there will be different filtration of Galactic Cosmic Rays (GCR) that affect Earth. The effect of GCR on Earth's atmosphere and climate is still uncertain. Although the interaction with molecular clouds was previously considered, the terrestrial impact of compact cold clouds was neglected. There is overwhelming geological evidence from 60Fe and 244Pu isotopes that Earth was in direct contact with the ISM 2 million years ago, and the local ISM is home to several nearby cold clouds. Here we show, with a state-of the art simulation that incorporate all the current knowledge about the heliosphere that if the solar system passed through a cloud such as Local Leo Cold Cloud, then the heliosphere which protects the solar system from interstellar particles, must have shrunk to a scale smaller than the Earth's orbit around the Sun (0.22). Using a magnetohydrodynamic simulation that includes charge exchange between neutral atoms and ions, we show that during the heliosphere shrinkage, Earth was exposed to a neutral hydrogen density of up to 3000cm-3. This could have had drastic effects on Earth's climate and potentially on human evolution at that time, as suggested by existing data.https://arxiv.org/abs/2202.01813
ok Zemu hands confirm man. sbarky is a man too. i can confirm based on hand analysis that the orange/blue heart xeeter (who has seemingly deleted both xeeter accounts) is in fact a girl. bad news for clear fags, but to date she has never been caught with her hands on camera
>>16142940i didn't realize the peacekeeper was so chonky compared to the minutemens
>>16142962>>16142959we all know you edited the html samefaggot. youre also the guy who posted >>16142972
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1782920736212189454
>>16142980Why doesnt starship use argon?
>>16142981Yes correct. Now what?
>>16142976keep up the good work tireless transvestigator
>>16142977Yeah, there's a bit of a size difference there
>>16142983those figures are for a nuclear rocket
>>16142986https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/88213069she nuked her pixiv too :( this is a major loss for rocketgirl enthusiasts
>>16142990why did she (he) do it?
>>16142991extreme autism, self esteem issues, etc. she was a 18yo japanese girl with a pet rabbit and terminally online, tweeting all day. extremely prolific rocketgirl artist, and one of the good ones
300 million light years is a large figure, but its crazy to think that if you just travel at light speed for the span of time in which animals on the surface of earth have existed, you can actually go there. its a short distance on cosmic timescales.
>>16142995Probably just trooned out and 41%ed
>>16142995Damn, what pics did she make?
>>16142998it's a mistake to project all of our contemporary culture's maladies onto others. there's a bigger world out there.
>>16142999These ones
>>16142722Wait a sec, I may need that hypothesis after all...t. Laplace
>>16143001oh damn those were really good, that's a shame
>>16143001Is there an archive?
>>16143021only occasional stuff i saved. completely disorganized
>>1614294429 medium16 heavy
>>16143001booba
never forget this gem of /sfg/ OC
>>16143045ugly bitch
>>16143054do u like black girls?
>>16143059no. i like rockets. that is not a rocket.
>>16143062can't fuck a rocket
>>16143065clearly not a visionary, ywngts
>>16140532>>16140559I don't know what to believe because mars pictures are a mix of different white balances, when white would not be balanced on mars to human eyes, so I don't know why the fuck they do it
>>16143059Why? Do you have a black girl rocket poster?
>>16143075he is likely the one that spams those nigger NON ROCKETS
>>16143077ok racist?
kek I know one thing they haven't ruined
>>16143062>no. i like rockets. that is not a rocket.It's Blue Glenn silly!
>>16143082they have ruined spaceflight companies if thats what you were going to say (see astra)
>>16143069viking photos were most accurate
>>16143087Astra was more BLMslop than trannieslop
>>16141659Still going strong.
STAGING>>16143108>>16143108>>16143108>>16143108>>16143108
>>16142867erm, she prefers to be called LatinX, chud
>>16142464You're not the first one to think that: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qattara_Depression_Project
>>16142466>foresting marsTerraforming mars is a retarded waste of resources and will never happen. I don't care how many times you read Zubrin's book
>>16142507Do you remember 9/11? If so, YWNGTM
>>16143140False on all accounts.
>>16142914subtly racist
>>16143059I've always wanted to try an eleven-fifthsome
>>16143140No it would be based, and here's why: you can give companies free reign to dump as much garbage and waste into the Martian environment as they can, even pay them creduts to find the most polluting way to manufacture, and so on. It's like a mirror EPA, and will foster hyperproductivity. Terraforming is a happy accident
>>16142887this is one of my favorite /sfg/ deeplore poststhings that are true:Starship is a spaceplanePropellant is stored in the ballsfrogposters? stupidthe Sun? it's greenHaley's comet hit the moon in the 80sthe name of Terra's only natural satellite is Lunawhat else am I forgetting
>>16142976that's because she's 100% black
>>16143087SpaceX has extremely high tranny concentration.
