B13 Massey's Rollout EditionPrevious - >>16143108
this is the beginning of B13s testing campaign btw
i like rockitsi like satilitesi like space!
>>16144992and you wish to be the little girl.
>>16144999sometimes
The JAXA logo looks pretty cool.
>>16144989Whipple shields are now a tier 3 thing thanks to kurzgesagt pop sci g*rmans
>>16145021I think JAXA logo sucks
>>16145016>>16144992Clearfag... I respected you for bringing us IFT-3 news but you revealing yourself as a troon has lost it.
>>16145026I'm not a tranny im just gay
>>16145034>I'm not a tranny im just gayfellow frogposters, we got him
>>16145052salire ferociter, my good man
>/sfg/ is full of fagsits over
>>16145064anonymous you can say anything, even things that arent true
>>16145074>even things that arent trueThis. I'm straight btw.
i just farte inmy suit
>>16144989Needs Salyut 3 autocannon.
>>16144989what about gemini-voskhod (sex)?
>>16144989how deep
>>16144989>Project Rho is furry propagandanever heard of that site until now, boy is that a rabbit hole.
Is this accurate, /sfg/? Have we underestimated the B-man?
>>16145134>where are my engines Jeff>on Mars Tory
>>16144989>Deke Slayton gladiatorial fan-fictionNow that you mention it, I remember an RTS game where astronauts/USMC dudes fall through a wormhole and end up as space gladiatorsThe main character kind of looked like emo Deke SlaytonAnyone knows what I'm talking about? Is that related?
>>16145134>New Glenn to Mars>NASAs EscaPADE mission>its more shitty cubesatswho cares? its a manlet payload, coud have used a falcon heavy
>>16145144But they DIDNT. which should tell you something...
>>16145171It tells me that NASA is full of liars and corrupt people.
crewed CZ-2F launch in a few minuteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOlSv7rdLDI
>>16145189how's heavenly palace doing nowadays?
News? I got stuck in the orbit.
>>16145189Launched!nice infra-red views of the engines. Don't usually see the "hot plumbing" so clearly.
>>16145213>>16145215buy an ad.
>>16145219take your meds
>>16144989Posting OC. The funny thing is basically everything on this is true.
>>16145234proud to say I only know half of these
>>16145254Be happy and eat ze bugs
>NASA may alter Artemis III to have Starship and Orion dock in low-Earth orbithuh
>>16145267Could Falcon lift Orion to LEO?
>>16145270No, just use Dragon at that point
>>16145271Some facesaving for oldspace might be necessary. Getting rid of SLS is worth keeping Orion.
>>16145234dont forget dirty falcon 9. and berger hat loyalty
>>16145130>>16144989Not surprising considering Elon is Krystalposter.
>>16144989Missing STS-33 toilet depressurization incident
>>16145275What will the cope be when the 4th ShitShip launch fails? More NPC seal clapping and screaming into the void? Asking for a friend who likes orbital infrastructure and forsakes chemical rockets as the archaic donkey cart they are.
>>16145283irrelevant replying shill
https://lsic.jhuapl.edu/uploadedDocs/meetings/docs/2441-DISTRO%20A%20LunA-10%20LSIC%20Performer%20Binder.pdfMassive LSIC info dump. Gonna go through this 114 slide powerpoint and post anything notable I see for all us 0 attention span zoomers.
>>16145321why everything is so far
>>16145327God hates us
>>16145327if you lived in a globular cluster you'd be complaining everything is too close
>>16145327It's not that far, you're just a baby
>>16145324
>>16145327It's a wonderful day in the neighborhood
>>16145342Are globular clusters really that much denser than the galactic disk?>The stars in globular clusters are packed in much more tightly than in any other place in a galaxy.https://pweb.cfa.harvard.edu/research/topic/star-clustersI guess they are.
>>16144982Can you use a solar sail as a space brake for interstellar trips?Let's say we toss 150 tons towards proxima centauri at 50% speed of light, as we get closer, could we use the stellar wind from Proxima to slow down in time for a capture?Sounds like a complicated calculation...
>>16145342Apparently it wouldn't even look that much different if we were in one. The night sky is so boring bros. I wish the moon was 15 times closer.
>3 starship HLS will be used to jumpstart the moon basehttps://imgur.com/a/7b2u56U
>>16145324finally starting this, Blue Alchemist mentioned for the first time since it was announced. this was their technology for making solar panels out of lunar regolith that was fully autonomous i believe which its weird that it only gets a single line mention
>>16145479something to note
>>16145426>The night sky is so boring brosCityfag detected.
>>16145481where do you live? Ascension island?
>>16145480picrel is the solar array they plan to use... theres a whole diagram of how they plan to have these connect everything on the surface to earth but these seem like they might tip over desu.>>16145479also they talk about it more after this but its kinda just more of the same saying they can use the tech to do whatever they need it to
so they gave up on catching starship?
>starship HLS on it's first mission to the moon.
>>16145483>where do you live? Ascension island?I'm right on the edge of a city, but there are places within an hour drive that have little light pollution.
>>16145485here is that diagram and i think this is like 10-15 different companies on here right?
>>16145488elon doesn't understand that you can't just propulsively land tall rocket stages upright. it simply doesn't work.
>>16145490im retarded
ok on the LSIC slides, continuation of that just separating from blue origin. from that previous diagram, the 'cislunar foundry' in the bottom right is what this thing is. fucker looks like it can make everything we need for a colony in build materials.
>>16145494aOUGHNBDIFUFHDSIUFHSDI WHY DO I KEEP FORGETTING TO POST THE IMAGE
>>16145496>>16145494this is their supply chain for the thing, so it looks like they are planning lunar mines, railways, etc. to support this foundry. i wonder if the 'alloy elements' is ripped apart ships or something? or is it just that they would be shipping them there via landers.
>>16145481That is a digitally enhanced image. The night sky does not look like that anywhere. I have been to the outback. The absolute best you get is more stars (all pure white) and faint white/beige clouds
>>16145498holy shit.... $25k/kg?? this seems REALLY expensive compared to just using a starship instead. their max capacity is 500t per year, even if it takes 15 starships to get just one to the moon, at $10/kg thats still $150/kg, and you could still multiply that. that price is orders of magnitude higher... idk man
>>16145499>I have been to the outbackGood for you? I have too, and New Zealand as well. Fun fact, depending on your location depends on what you'll see. Here's the USA.
alright that was cislunar industries with an ISRU forge. next up is a locksneed partner called crescent with their 'multiservice modular user surface terminal' or MUST
How will resources ever be extracted from gas giants? It seems like that is the key to truly immense resource utilization in space, but the gravity well of a gas giant is so overwhelming that I can't see it ever happening without magic. The matter is basically locked in there useless to us forever.
>>16145506You don’t see that dipshit that’s the point. It doesn’t look like that to eyes, even in the darkest places on earth.
>>16145509you build a big and a very long straw that you suck materials through
>>16145507ok so this thing is basically the cameras on a google maps car. they want to have them on everything so that its all mapped out digitally for autonomous vehicles to know where to go, probably like any bots that are laying down solar panels or building/mining, etc. this seems like allot of hardware would be needed to support this from that image.
>>16145512>You don’t see that dipshit that’s the point. It doesn’t look like that to eyes, even in the darkest places on earth.Cool story bro.
>>16145492>GITAIThey're being nice but NASA already rejected them for being retards
>>16145509Skimmers
>>16145509get into a highly elliptical orbit, drop your perijove into the upper atmosphere, and skim off some of the top
>>16145515this is their timeline and supposed customers, honestly i could see an application maybe past artemis missions but i feell ike there must be some better way to map all these areas with satellites or something idk
>>16145512Yeah pretty cringe it's all faint and white irl
>>16145526this is what that other solution was. seems to be like this is a more direct scanner rather than like a 360 radius though maybe i'm misreading this? also im not sure if this is meant to be a module that includes MUST or if its going in to MUST, im going to assume that it is using MUST though
>>16145526lolNASA's budget got cut by a billion dollars to fund the UkraniansThis is never getting moneyHell I bet the ISS deorbit is going to be uncontrolled
>>16145523would it really ever be possible to skim more material from the planet than you spend getting to and from it?
>>16145531and finally these are their applications, optimizing power grid seems like what i said earlier, maybe in the comms networks but allot of these seem more like a far off future thing rather than get your boots on the ground now and work with what you can.
>>16145537im a dirty little nigger.
so that was locksneed. next is fibertek's optical node called LION.their main focus seems to be wireless power beaming from the solar panel banners as well as comms links. we saw this earlier with the blorigin architecture slide i believe.
>>16145544theyve got multiple sizes, not sure why you would need the micro though that one seems kind of stupid.
why does everyone estimate such high costs at $/kg? $500k/kg seems literally retarded, are they just trying to squeeze NASA for as much money as they can?? what the fuck is going on with these
next up firefly with LUNAR HARBOR
>>16145553so it seems like theyre trying to lay out what this harbor would be doing and provide its advantages over a space station like gateway. is this an on the surface lunar harbor then? it seems like theyre trying to be the 'buffer' that receives the fuel and then sells it back to everyone? am i being a brainlet here i thought spacex would be doing that
>>16145559heres how they envision their market would work, seems like they ARE infact buying up the starship tankers cargo for their harbor. BUT from this diagram they are an in orbit 'harbor' between theearth and the moon, will post a diagram of where EML1 is in a second. to be honest though this seems to be in direct competition with what spacex had planned with sending everything off to any destination from LEO by refueling, so maybe theyre focusing more on servicing customers in the wide terran planetary system and leaving mars and beyond mostly to spacex. that or theyre just planning to be the middle man that aggregates everything on one place so its easier for other companies.
>>16145559heres all the EML orbits
>>16145561heres them btfoing lunar isru propellant, and that kind of wraps up the firefly lunar harbor. seems like more of a market study than an actual plan to build one, maybe theyre just playing with the idea for now. they would need to dip their toes in the commercial space station market if they go after this.
>>16145520next is gitai ironically. theyre doing a bunch of bots. kek i think thissays enough, trying to make their robots a subscription type deal like theyre human workers.
im gonna ignore gitai because that seems retarded and boring. next is helios with taking care of the oxygen problem by making life support o2, lox, and raw materials from the regolith they deoxygenate.
>>16145582thanks for posting these
>>16145582basically theyre making electrolyzer cells to convert regolith to oxygen, and this is their approach ALSO wanted to mention that these are the LunA-10 study participants presentations, i dont think this is all of LSIC>>16145586no problem. just kinda documenting them for myself as well because i wanna see what going on with these guys.
>>16145587mock up of their lifesupport system, btw they would be buying the regolith from others to provide as well as the power and comms so they have an overhead though there is good use for oxygen always.
>>16145551IM-1 placed about 100kg of payload on the lunar surface with a launch cost of ~$60 million for an f9, which comes out to $600k/kg.
>>16145592these are the problems that the system would have that they admit, lunar dust and gravity being the usual culprits>>16145593huh. well i guess thats fair
How does the Relativity 3d printer work? It's just a MIG welder with extra sensors and algorithms or?
and thats helios. next is ICON and olympus, which seems to be how they would want to construct things on the moon. seems like they want it to make habs in the future>>16145596i really doubt they would MIG weld a rocket together even if its just the tanks. if they do use MIG, well then i think we can guess why terran-1 blew up
>>16145598it seems like they plan to use additive manufacturing, maybe kind of like SLS with regolith, to make habs on this thing?
>>16145600i see, they plan to send it ahead of time to make a landing pad for spacex. seems like the things it can make is able to endure a starship landing.
>>16145603heres their plan of action, seems like their main market is automated infrastructure, so these would be laying down the roads for things to drive and land on, which hoenstly to me seems like it would actually be a fairly large market, and im sure they could adapt this to martian terrain no?
>>16145605so i skipped a bunch of slides b ecause they were mostly things like stress diagrams, thermodynamics sort of technical stuff, but they have ALLOT of detail if you are interested in that sort of thing in the powerpoint. it seems like they actually know what theyre doing with this thingmoving on to their business model, they want to charge per landing on their pads though its apparantly negligible compared to the cost of something tipping over (side note this btfos muh tipping starship HLS). they charge for landing launch and occupancy so they are squeezing every penny they can out of spacex i guess. and thats it for ICON
next was redwire but im going to skip them too. TLDR they were planning the satellite constellation for the moon and everything that would entail that we get here on earth from satellites. its too technical and out of my field for me anyways.
after redwire is sierra space, second to last in the LunA-10 and they are literally doing the exact same thing as Helios with the oxygen but their own system.
>>16145620heres the chemical reactions they planned to use and the system behind it.
>>16145626heres two slides in one, the top one is a bit ahrder to understand but its basically the supply and demand table. the bottom is the prices they would be selling their shit at. and thats really it for sierra since im not trying to be redundant with another oxygen plant.
and we are finally at the end, fittingly with SpaceX. heres some numbers, what stands out to me is 100t to lunar surface... thought it would be more with the 200t to leo though i guess not
>>16145637oooohhh this is mass to surface, they seem to be saying they plan to charge ~$7k/kg and later on get it down to <=$1000/kg. yknow im somewhat surprised by the number but again still orders of magnitude better than $600k/kg
>>16145641>NEW STARSHIP INFO ALERT3 different types of lunar starships, interestingly there is one dedicated to utility, though i kind of expected the rolling stock one. its not like you can just take all the necessary rovers with you on the way to the moon in the same ship as your habitation. so theyre literally just going to land massive data & power centers with starships too, kek.>NEW STARSHIP INFO ALERT
>>16145642>NEW STARSHIP INFO ALERTthis is expanding on the utility HLS, it seems like its taking up the general cargo role as well for lunar rides. if they do this for mars as well, habitation starship will only have food, people, and everything else required for them to live. it makes sense now but i dont know why i never though of it.>NEW STARSHIP INFO ALERT
>>16145646>NEW STARSHIP INFO ALERTthey also seem to plan on using any of these that stay as water/propellant silos for any future landers. this isnt entirely 'new' but its something they havent stated before, so kind of cool to see this idea finally be said.>NEW STARSHIP INFO ALERTand thats about it for LunA-10 everyone! very enjoyable and some good ideas, though also a good number of stinkers and oldspace garbage. utility starship also looks good. im gonna check around and see if theres any additional info besides these slides from LSIC but for now that seems to have been the main event.
>>16145652> vertical HLS base reeeeeeeeeee
>>16145646100kw solar panel power. A typical house would use ~10kw (with roughly 4 hrs of sun hours, thats 40kwh daily usage) of solar panel. ISS has ~200kw.
All this and still no suggestion to use lavatubes. Kek btfo
>>16145610>Charging for safe parking on the moonThis is actually pretty smart, if they can pull it off.
>>16145698Im almost 100% sure they can, you should check out their slides on that pdf, by far the most detail and testing of any of the companies on LunA-10. It would be a very good business model but even if they have everything planned out it will come down to if they have enough capital to get to the moon.
>>16145676why does Iss need so much : ?
>>16145706Life support constantly on recycling oxygen, along with all the comms and temperature regulation pulls a serious amount of energy. Doesnt even mention all the other miscellaneous tests, lights and more that they also use.
Holy fucking shit, Gravitics will build space stations for the space forcehttps://www.gravitics.com/news/tacrsd2p2Seattle,Washington April 25th, 2024 – Gravitics, Inc. announced today it has been awarded a $1.7M Small Business Innovation Research (SBIR) Direct-to-Phase II contract from SpaceWERX. In partnership with Space Systems Command’s Space Safari Program Office, this effort will focus on a new mission area for Gravitics, Tactically Responsive Space (TacRS). Under this contract, Gravitics will leverage its commercial space station product architecture to develop orbital platforms that will enable rapid and flexible response options for the United States Space Force. Gravitics’ commercial space station modules can support a wide range of military and civilian applications, including in-space rapid response applications.“We are looking at all options to meet the mission on tactically relevant timelines. The Gravitics space station module offers an unconventional and potentially game-changing solution for TacRS,” said Lt Col Jason Altenhofen, Space Safari’s Director of Operations. “As we look into the future, the innovative use of commercial technologies will be an important aspect to solving some of our toughest challenges.”“Developing and manufacturing commercial space station modules will continue to be at the core of our company mission,” said Colin Doughan, CEO of Gravitics. “Gravitics is thrilled to have the opportunity to offer these commercial capabilities to the Department of Defense.Gravitics is supported by several partners under this contract, including Rocket Lab USA, True Anomaly, Space Exploration Engineering, and Eta Space. These partners will assist in refining mission architecture, developing use-case specific outfitting, and developing flight hardware.
>>16145713https://twitter.com/GraviticsInc/status/1783579988593447320
>>16145713Well looks like we're finally starting to see how the CSS market is gonna get cut up. Looks like Gravitics may be eating up all the military contracts and Vast might be taking the more public approach then. Still, $1.7m isnt too too much so still a good opportunity for others to eat up bigger contracts. Id imagine at some point the USSF would be looking for their own CSS variants with complete privacy to develop orbital/satellite to satellite weaponry in 0G may come up at some point so theres still more money on the table.
>>16145713>1.7mso someone at space forced looked behind their couch cushions and decided to toss what they found to them?
>>16145724Still a good indicator that the market is starting to take form.
>>16145724It's the kind of money you need to pay a team to figure out things they can do to meet specific goals for the organization and how much they'd cost to develop.
>>16145374where dod you get this from? I really enjoyed the section on gaia
>>16145728what maket? kek. It's the government issuing gibs for natuional secuirty purposes just like in the 60's
>>16145755>>16145765Niggers
when, bros, when can i retire to the good life on a spin hab? Earth is starting to get sketchy.
>>16145769>the spinfag has returnedNever, you will have to settle for mars.
>>16145755This dude makes it and several other cool fucking worldbuilds https://www.deviantart.com/thobewill/art/The-Centauri-Highway-738041408
>>16145779cheers.
>>16145773I just want my 40 acres on a spinhab, is that too much to ask for?
>>16145795Needs 10 meters deep soil, 30 tonnes a meter straight away. $3,000,000 a square meter a least, thats expensive land.
>SAXAVORD has become Western Europe’s only fully licenced vertical launch spaceport after having been granted a range control licence by the UK Civil Aviation Authority (CAA).Bonus: RFA 1st stage on the standhttps://www.shetnews.co.uk/2024/04/25/spaceport-clears-final-hurdle-become/
>>16145773oh and an assigned space babe gf
>>16145802Why not just bring your gf with you?
>>16145804c-cmon, man
Are lunar orbits stable enough that something starlink could be placed there without obnoxious station keeping?Without an atmosphere and a low need for bandwidth like 5 sats could be enough for decades.
>>16145802Is that Jenny Agutter? Absolute babe in Logan's Run.
>>16145808Pretty much especially anything non-LLO
>>16145805Nobody is going to provide you with a girlfriend. You have to get her yourself, like a proper man.
>>16145817high lunar orbits can be less stable than low ones because you're moving at a lower velocity so small perturbations can throw you more off-course
>>16145828Interedasting
https://andersonchris.medium.com/the-nerd-urban-dictionary-abcd55ca7ac4What spaceflight terms would you add here>RUD>i cant think of anything else
>>16145821You're right. We now have the ability to build our own. Humanity will evolve beyond these meat suits, soon.
Today at 08:30:08 UTC Oleg Kononenko broke the world record for the most time spent in space which previously was held by Gennady Padalka, who scored a total of 878 days, 11 hours over five space flights. Oleg is expected to gain a total of 10000000 days in space on June 5, 2024.
>>16145844>10000000 days in space27000 years, that's incredible! congrats to gennady!
space is gayonly fags care about space
>>16145832MECOTNDEDS
The true beauty of a self-inquiring sentient universe is lost on those who elect to walk the intellectually vacuous path of comfortable paranoid fantasies.
>>16145850have you considered becoming a professional "quote maker"?
>>16145852its TF's bio
>>16145832t minus X / t plus Xcountdownscrub"rocket science""moonshot" / "moon mission"
>>16145854 unironically beleived this for a second.
>>16145773>leave one well, immediately go to another You will never be a spacer
>>16145832Shit article desu. Half of the definitions are just wrong. Many of the terms convey information that can't be replicated in less than a sentence, even when outside of their original fields.
>>16145828electromagnetic solar sails solve the LLO problem
>>16145864https://twitter.com/thunderf00t/isreal
>>16145877Yes he really is that fucking pretentious
>>16145867>muh wellsDo boaters call their docks wells too
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20240426/k10014433551000.htmlTen weeks until the next H3 launch
>>16145877Holy shit, he is like a real life basedjack.
>>16145886The true beauty of a self-inquiring sentient universe is lost on you
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1783602939069603954jesus christwould you ride the starliner?
>>16145882There's no energy cost to leaving a dock you wellnigger spastic
>>16145907Exactly, why do you think that won't be the case for space too eventually
>>16145909retarded hypothetical. that onyl wont be the case when earth no longer exists
>>16145890no
Umm… Is he smoking the glass dick or is SpaceX seriously considering going public at some point. (If that’s true then Starship will likely be the last ‘great’ product they are capable of making and they will just focus on revenue from SS / Starlink until they go out of business 50-some years from now :(https://x.com/lrocket/status/1783577464708493329
>>16145475Wait is this new?Why is no one talking about this? Wtf
>>16145919If they go public it's actually ogre, jews will buy up large chunks and relentlessly sue Elon for failing fiduciary responsibility by dumping billions back into r&d and mars shit rather than making line go up.
>>16145890>would you ride the starliner?
>>16145922unironically. I've always beleived in Elon and I hope he's scamming investors by promising going public one day, but if they actually do then I'm done.
>>16145890How did nasa come up with a 1 in 270 number? Is the idea that someone won't die on that vehicle before its replaced by something safer in the future?
>anons really thought Musk was serious about Mars and it wasn't a smokescreen for Starlinkbux and DODbuxlmao
>>16144989>isaac arthur on this but jmg ain'treee
>>16145890Sound bad but it's pretty normal. Dragon Demo 2 was estimated at 1-in-276.
Has anyone heard about people going ti use boston metal tech for irsu yet?They got contracts from nasa in the past to test making metal and oxygen from regolith and it worked
If spacex goes public we are fucked for any spacex mars missions
Does anyone wonder if Stars are actually alive as plasma-based organisms, possibly even sentient?
Cull the birds, including the piping plovershttps://www.cdc.gov/flu/avianflu/data-map-commercial.html
>>16145919could just be a starlink spinoff going public
>>16145919If they actually go public then Common Sense Skeptic was right all along and I will eat humble pie. Musk will be the greatest conman of our time by far. Literally became a multi billionaire and the most popular man in the world by saying he was going to go to Mars, and then exist scams everybody.
>>16145939Does Sol really rotate that fast?
>>16145937Spacesex won't go public but they won't go private either
>>16145919>or is SpaceX seriously considering going public at some point.Elon has been pretty open about Starlink going public. I wouldn't be too surprised if Starlink is chopped off into its own business and made public. That will also keep SpaceX from becoming a "monopoly" and politicians trying to split the company like Microsoft.Suffering from success.
>>16145932And that first one fucking exploded so the real chance was far higher, like 3/5
>>16145950to what end? he doesnt spend the money
>>16145939Yeah
>>16146000psychopaths get a thrill from deceiving people even if its pointless and even if it hurts their reputation. It's possible that he has lived his entire life lying for sadistic plesaure and is pulling the biggest scam of his life. He does lie a lot. I think it's perfectly morally justified if it's done for the mission, but it could also be for his own thrill.
>>16145919He's probably thinking about Starlink offering. There aint never a chance of SpaceX itself going public
>>16145939Come to think of it, it's kinda strange how similar the life cycle of a star is to that of a biological organism we are familiar with. Minus the whole blowing up part, literally speaking.
>>16146013When was the last time you went into your red giant phase?
>>16146018I'm currently shedding stellar material as I lose mass
>>16145956No that's a 3600x speedup (hour per second).
>>16146036I mean it's fast rotation per hour for such a large object
>>16143508it can and it isMusk is a very unique combination of autistic obsession and drive, high intelligence and insane work ethic and he doesn't give upparadoxically it seems like the harder things get for him, the harder he works
>>16143568Musk wasn't a billionaire when he founded SpaceX, he got like 200mil or so from PaypalSpaceX wasn't the first private space company or especially rich compared to other people (see Jeff Bezos with Blue Origin, founded 2000 or Armadillo Aerospace with John Carmack founded in 2000)so no first mover advantage either reallythere might have been some luck but the magic sauce is Musk itself
>>16146045>paradoxically it seems like the harder things get for him, the harder he worksNah there are just people like that. My totally qualified opinion is that the kind just don't really know how to react to a lot of shit in their lives so they just keep working more the harder things are.
>>16146009>even if it hurts their reputationThat's untrue and antithetical to the psychopath's inbuilt survival mechanism. Musk isn't one, anyway.
>>16146045>>16146045just to illustrate the poitn all of those traits are probably on some normal distribution and you have like 4 of these getting multiplied togetherso if you are top 1% in 4 different relevant areas with respect to entrepreneurship (lets say intelligence, work ethic, dealing with failure, non-conformism) you have0.01^4 = 1e-8 for instance and the population right now is 8.1e9these traits don't necessarily have to be the ones I mentioned (not sure if all of them really make sens), there might be more or less of them, but even if being top 1% in intelligence for instance isn't really that remarkable, the combination of a number of rare traits becomes very rare quickly
>>16145939No, but gas giants are sentient. Self-replicating compute units form near the metallic hydrogen boundary layer and they eventually blanket the entire core. Jupiter and Saturn have been manipulating life on Earth since the start.
>>16146047It also helps to have a market that's eager for what you're selling. Arianespace took off the way it did in the 80s because their was so much backlog after we tried to launch every payload using the shuttle. Things weren't quite as bad when SpaceX was getting started but the Ariane 5 and Proton were mostly focused on serving the GTO/GEO market and ULA wouldn't even read your emails if they didn't come from a .gov address. The LEO market was badly under served and the geostationary market was ready for something that was cheaper than an Ariane and was more reliable than the Proton. Companies like Beal Aerospace might have had a better chance if they came onto the market a bit later than they did.
>>16146058It's 100% true. Psychopaths typically get diagnosed because of their impulsive and nonsensical lying. If they all acted rationally then it would be impossible to tell
>>16145990Ahhh that’s it.I don’t really care about markets and trading and stuff so I assumed Starlink was already public. And you’re right it’s always kind of been an obvious goal for the company. Employees within the company regularly stated it would be public as soon as it passed some critical milestones.>>16145950kek
>>16146068>Jupiter and Saturn have been manipulating life on Earth since the start.I think you'll find the deep hot biosphere runs Earth via crafted viruses not beep boop fags in the outer system
>>16145956this is bait who the fuck calls the sun by its retarded proper name
https://twitter.com/DogRightGirl/status/1783516894638551480What are the spaceflight implications of Trump becoming president?
>>16146082Romans
>>16146093
>>16146082idiots think that if we say Terra and Luna everything will be just like their favorite sci fi books
>>16146093It'll be a return to 2017-2020 when SpaceX could move faster without so much federal nonsense, but now with interest rate hikes having shaken most of the crap out of the launch market.
>>16145426Just wear blue sunglasses if you want the image on the right
>>16145512You can see the brown dust if it's dark enough.
>>16145919He's 100% talking about Starlink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbHRvb5NEV4>Major Flame Trench Updates! Starbase Flyover Episode 40
>>16146124>An anonymous insider with direct knowledge of SpaceX’s inner workings has provided irrefutable evidence that the aerospace giant is gearing up for a historic initial public offering (IPO) in 2027. The memo reveals that Elon Musk himself has given the green light for the IPO. Musk reportedly said, “Let’s take this baby public and fund our Mars colony dreams.
>>16146125but do we have an update on the office building's construction? i'm extremely interested in whether an office building is finished or not just because it's near other spacex stuff.
What cars do current astronauts drive? Still have a penchant for sportcars like the jet jockey generation?
>>16145930Will we ever make it to Mars? No Should we try? Yes
>>16146139Probably boring shit since they're all fucking old now.
So uh, two weeks, right?
>>16145890still better than shittle's record
>>16146179And as a follow up, thoughts on TEP (tiny earther pecker)?
>>16145052not a surprise desu
>>16145324damn, too tired to read it now but this has a bunch of shit
>>16146201i did a whole info dump of the important stuff from that thing btw.
>>16146212nice
nicky joined china>Central American state Nicaragua has joined the ILRS moon base program as China continues its push to attract partners for the project.>The China National Space Administration (CNSA) also reached agreements April 24 with the Asia-Pacific Space Cooperation Organization, headquartered in Beijing, and the Arab Union for Astronomy and Space Sciences. The agreements were reported by Chinese state media.https://spacenews.com/nicaragua-signs-up-to-chinas-ilrs-moon-program/
>>16146179>>16146182>>16146186stupid frogposter
>>16144999everybody wants to be the little girl
>>16146239intelligent fairyposter
>>16144999Well....Maybe! :3
>>16146232updated
>>16146249geographysisters, we have a broad sweep of the holiest lands in christianity, islam, judaism, and hinduism
>>16146249cold war 2, who you betting on?
>>16146256>names the program after a pagan roastie
>>16146258>cold war 2>map is identical to cold war 1 other than irrelevant warsaw pact dropouts and india/pakistan flipflopping
>>16146249Will a nork ever make the journey to the Moon?
>>16146249soon
>>16146249Forgot to include the Czechs in Artemis. Otherwise, good map.Also, I'm a bit surprised the Turks opted to join China's project, but I assume that decision was influenced by a) their little brother Azerbaijan doing so last year, and b) their arch-rival Greece signing on to Artemis a few months ago.
Has there been a summary of the results of the Artemis 1 smallsats?
>>16146249>>16146256>>16146267>group of countries peddling vaporwareOr >Artemis AccordsI know what I'll pick
>>16146275all stillborn
>>16146275failure, failure, failure, partia failure, failure, failure, failure, success*, failure, failure *partial success
Are there any space agency management/strategy games besides Buzz Aldrin's Race into Space?
>>16146288KSP with RP-1 since they switched to a programs style of careerhttps://github.com/KSP-RO/RP-1/wiki/RO-&-RP-1-Express-Installation-for-1.12.3
>>16146249>US is losing new space raceIt's over
lunar data relay sats are coming
>>16146293Any other games besides KSP? I specifically want one that focuses on managing a space program instead of having to deal with a physics sim.
>>16146297china already has those
>>16146299who?
We're gonna build MOON SHANTYTOWNS
>>16146082Astronomers. Do you know how dumb people sound by calling our star "the sun" as if it was the only one?Or our moon "the moon" for that matter
>>16146311Name one (1) intense where someone was talking about the Sun and you were confused about which star was being discussed
>>16146288It had a remake that wasn't as good but that's about itI've been meaning to give High Frontier a try, maybe even as a LP
>>16146318>>16146288there's mars horizon but that's kinda for babies
>>16146320I wasn't really going to count that one but it is a simulator I GUESSI thought about trying to speedrun it once. The Russian ability to ignore launch windows is so broken
>>16146318>>16146320I wish there was a game like Rule the Waves but you design launch vehicles/spacecraft instead of ships
>>16146325If you're into spreadsheets boy do I have a game for you https://www.aurorawiki.pentarch.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
>>16146327too sci-fiI want something set in historical/contemporary/near future spaceflight
>>16146298you can use mechjeb to do all the in-flight stuff, but you'd still have to build the rockets yourself
>>16146339I would prefer it if there was some system that checked if a launch vehicle could carry a certain payload to whatever orbit and run the mission in the background. That way it becomes less tedious to do stuff that requires multiple launches like orbital refueling. That's why I prefer a game that abstracts the spaceflight physics sim part
>>16146339nta and i love rp1 but you absolutely can't get mechjeb to do all the in-flight stuff, especially if you're going to be doing anything interesting. what if you want to set up a multiplanetary flyby? what if you want to land a spaceplane on a runway from orbit? what if you want to put something into NRHO? what if you want to time a launch for a first-orbit rendezvous? these things are doable, but they take a LOT of time. and that's time on top of having to sim your missions over 5x to fix all the stupid stuff with decouplers being backwards and parachutes being asymmetrical and forgetting your space station needed nitrogen. i think the sim elements in the mod would probably constitute the best space agency management game ever made in isolation, but i can't blame anyone for not wanting to play it if you only want the management stuff.pic not really related but i thought the result of my pad abort test was kinda funny.
>>16146353main reason why I don't want to play with RP-1 is that I don't wanna deal with Kraken attacks or the general jankiness that comes from heavily modding the game
>>16146354i think it's a lot better than it used to be on both of those counts, but it might just be that i've blown enough time on it to know what to avoid
>>16145234>3rd image from bottom>Shotwell's shoes>Quake tournament>ilovemalaysia>Zuma 2>sixth Falcon 1 (the one in the junkyard?)Could you explain these?>>16145274What are those about?
>>16146380the first falcon 9 launch was baptized by sooty shit water, coating in a layer of black soot, foreshadowing the future of reusability. god did it
will they recycle semen on mars like they recycle shit and piss?
>>16146394The good thing about living on a planet is you don't need to recycle. Just dump all that stuff into a ravine. You have plenty of spare resources to collect.
>>16146395But throwing jizz in a ravine would impregnate Mars. Do YOU want SpaceX to be paying child support?
>>16146396Why are subhumans like this bros?
>>16146380read eric berger's falcon 1 book, most are from therethey talk about playing quake on LAN in the early days of spacex, ilovemalaysia I'm not sure what the exact reference is but the first falcon 1 payload was a malaysian satellite. I think shotwell's shoes is another book reference but that's just a guess, I can't remember exactly what it meansZuma 2 is probably a reference to a non-disclosed payload for the NRO
>>16146396Mars is a male planet, dipshit.
How much ass will you throw at Mars?
>>16146408Shantytowns my friend. We will BUILD THEMWe will build GREAT SHITTY SHACKS ON THE MOON. NAVAJO NATION TRY TO STOP ME
>>16146325Have you tried Ultimate Admiral Dreadnaught for ship stuff?
>>16146419no, but I played from the depths which is more of a physics sim like KSP
>>16146268I hope Trump tells them to switch over to Artemis or he's going to kick them out of NATO and flatten Ankara. What a trash tier """ally""" those roaches are.
>>16146426TRUMP IS A ROACH TO SPACEFLIGHT TOO YOU FAT SHILL NIGGER HE HAS DONE NOTHING GOOD THAT WOULDVE BEEN DONE WITHOUT HIM ARTEMIS IS ATROCIOUS
>>16146249>WW3 is a mix of west pacific naval knife fights, orbital fleet engagements, and jungle warfare in Nicaragua and Venezuela to shore up the home front>as well as Russia feebly attempting to invade Europe again and promising they'll escalate to nukes for real this time they mean itI think all of /k/ would enlist for this.
>>16146429silence
>>16146433AAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Infrequent poster here. The fuck ever happened to that Quantized Inertia test? Cant find anything about it online.
>>16146442>qi shill trying to blend init failed. and you know it failed.
>>16144989>ksp modding and ksp ckan on the same tiereh
>>16146354>I don't wanna deal with Kraken attacks or the general jankiness that comes from heavily modding the gamefrom my experience playing RP-1 especially the new PLC update it was pretty stable. Haven't been able to play however because of school
>>16146442The satellite suffered a power failure before they were scheduled to be turned on.
>>16146442https://rogue.space/suspension_of_barry1_operations
>>16146442It succeeded too well so the NRO covered it up
>>16146511this
https://twitter.com/astroscale_HQ/status/1783756807095324965>NEWS: Pics or it didn't happen. Behold, the world’s first image of space debris captured through rendezvous and proximity operations during our ADRAS-J mission.
>>16146380>3rd image from bottomhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucA1VH2acqY>Shotwell's shoesShe sticks post-it notes with "Scotland" written on them in her insoles for important launches. Read Berger's book>Quake tournamentSee >>16146400>ilovemalaysiaKind of a double reference. Elon changed his password to "ilovenasa" after they won the CRS contract. Also the fact that the Malaysians didn't bail on SpaceX despite losing 3 launches in a row.>Zuma 2The Globalstar-2 FM15 launch was unusually hush, with some people saying another top secret payload was colaunched with ithttps://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/06/spacex-globalstar-falcon-9/>sixth Falcon 1 (the one in the junkyard?)Yeah, they had one lying around in LA before they shipped it to Boca Chica for that first Starship presentation. Dunno where it is now.https://imgur.com/a/Zmfis
>>16146082we do?
>>16145923Spent more effort on this than Boing does on engineering.
>>16145939
>>16146344Just do the mission once then use Hyperedit to cheat if you don't want to keep doing resupply/refueling missions.
>>16146442Like others said Rogue Space fucked up and the satellite had power issues the entire time it was in orbit until it failed before they could do the test. They offered to fly another one on a satellite at the end of the year but IVO seemed to want to try again sooner, but I've not heard anything new since.
>>16145939>>16146579
>>16145939surely the inside of a star is too entropic to be alive. I often wonder what the properties are of the billion neutron nuclei inside neutron stars. One day there could be a major industry around creating absurd pressure to take advantage of the exotic properties of ultra heavy elements
did elon consider starship with 4 side superheavys?
>>16146267these map proportions are straight up weird, india is 50% bigger than greenland irlwhy do they gain from making equator countries smaller and sub polar bigger?
>>16146647
>>16146666>why do they gain from making equator countries smaller and sub polar bigger?Being able to actually recognisably draw the map, satan.
>>16145017Do people here remember Hale-Bopp? I was 7 but it was pretty coolBetelgeuse going supernova would be nice too.
New space flight redpill droppedhttps://youtu.be/7mm3eLrFlf8
>>16146675why wont they keep the real scale?
>>16146678>Do people here remember Hale-Bopp?It's the only comet with a body count
>>16146288Newspace board game remake when?
>>16145513Unironically could you do this to harvest the venusian atmosphere?
>>16146758No, because Venus spins too slowly for stationary orbits to exist.
>>16145533Starship should yeet it into interplanetary space
>>16146685fuck you nigge worshipper.
>>16146759build dem orbital rangz
>>16146765niggers should stay in equator
>>16145867That's right. I'm a temporarily embarrassed Martian.
>>16145890No, I want to live a little more. Those goofballs are still struggling with fastener technology such as screws.
>>16145939No, you're a gay retard. How would stars evolve? They don't even replicate.
>>16146412
>>16146799Niggers should be put on mercury
>>16146685Take the dymaxion pill
There are a lot of problems with correctly expressing the size of POC homelands in many kinds of maps, so I cut them out for better accuracy
>>16146093Hopefully with more teeth this time through executive orders, we can get a Javier Milei lite in terms of regulations. Deregulate lot of shit. Congress may control the pockets, but Trump with EO can simply de-regulate industries and have them move in faster pace. Not defund, but deregulate. Make things more business by removing business laws through EO and we're good. Particularly of operations and construction side of business. Needless environmental restrictions, simplify the terms so that companies can use third party investigators to do their checks and submit them to gov for faster processing instead of having to wait on gov agents and backlogs to wait for decade long approvals.
>>16146830Last time around the incoming admin undid all the previous admin's EOs, up to and including the one locking down the price of insulin. That one got reinstated later, and now the current admin is trying to take credit for it, lol.
>>16146768me on the left
>>16145943No point in spinning off Starlink without also spinning off the launch vehicle on which Starlink depends to have a competitive edge
>>16146093None, except that Musk's business empire is less likely to get rugpulled by the government
>>16146526the elites don't want you to know this but the upper stages in LEO are free. I have 458 upper stages.
>>16146856Starlink on New Glenn when? I can see them launching a pitty payload or two on other providers just so they don't get slapped with an anti-trust suit.
>>16146862when starlink goes public they will get EDS and refuse to fly on SpaceX rockets to spite them
>>16146768dem rangz needs a kang
Vast had an animation on how their rotating space station will work https://youtu.be/4F8lnfDEMkg?si=Acse4XuQ1jnUWRkg
>>16146822Beautiful.
>>16146933I was gonna joke that it works by spinning, but that's literally all the animation shows. The solar panels do look cool though.
Ariane 6 is finally getting ready. Might be done in a couple of months
>>16146933really breaking new ground here
>>16146933uhh why would they do thisthe "floor" surface area would be TINY
>>16146957what other way would you spin it?
>>16145801European small launch at this point feels like a time capsule to 5 years ago. Someone needs to tell them to dream big.
>>16146933They updated the roadmap with size comparisons. Rotating station is more than 3x the volume of ISS
https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1783873517152317858https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1783876985401299002IFT3 prop transfer was successful, IFT4 "by the end of May", HLS demo will now do a liftoff, and slides on ship-to-ship prop demo
>>16146969
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1783880139887239390
>>16146966So does it rotate around the middle, and you get a manlet station toward the middle and a gains station toward the ends?
>>16146933how do you rendevouz and dock with this without tars?
>>16146966how will they make money from this?
>>16146969the fact that it's scheduled for next year is not a good sign. surely it would be scheduled for this year if cadence is going to increase and if its nearly ready. looks like we will have just 3 launches this year,
>prop transfer next year (leaning LATE next year or more realistically 2026, when they are supposed to be on the moon)>going public the year after and getting bought out by jewish firmsits so, so over with spacex.
>>16146962>>16146978>>16146980>>16146981stop asking questions goy
>>16146385>>16146400>>16146569Thanks guys. Yeah, Berger's book is still on my list, have yet to read it.>the first falcon 9 launch was baptized by sooty shit water, coating in a layer of black sootCan't see it in the webcast, but neat.>shoesNow that you say it I think I remember reading about this in some article, probably an excerpt from the book.>Zuma 2Neat, I must've completely forgotten about that already with all the spooksats they launch. I was gonna say Starlink support structure on Transporter-3 or whichever it was might be a better fit but then I saw the pic in your linked article (and I even found basically the same pic in my screenshot folder lol, so I definitely noticed it back then). I still think the Transporter one is better because it seems even better hidden, but considering I remember that and forgot Globalstar I guess that one did it better. Do you know if we got USA- objects for that launch? I recall the Transporter one did.>sixth Falcon 1Yeah, that's the one I was thinking of. Completely forgot they pulled it out for the Starship presentation.
>>16146969but thunderfoot told me that the ift3 demo had failed and spacex was covering it up
>>16146969>switching back to hot gas thrustersThanks for nothing Tim!
>>16147000The true beauty of a self-inquiring sentient universe is lost on you.雷足
>>16147001Dim Todd
>>16147003Such profound winsdom from Stormfoot man we are truly blessed for his way with words, much to comntemplate
>>16147008Nimrod
>>16146985They need two specially modified Starship stacks with the Starships themselves using docking hardware that hasn't been designed yet through a hull opening we haven't seen yet using thrusters we've seen malfunction on the last testI'd say a year is a decent timeframe, even for SpaceX. I can just imagine them actually doing the test in the same amount of time it would take some plod PhD at GSFC or Glenn to write a study on how NASA would do it
>>16146974>before the end of MaySee you guys in June.
>>16147013>docking hardware that hasn't been designed yetit HAS been designed which is why there's the green checkmark beneath "high-level starship & hardware designs" in the flight system review box
>>16147023>IN WORK
>>16147023they lied to get the contract money. duh.
>>16146966Woah, 3.5 cubic kilometers!
>>16147032it's a big station
probably hard to design docking hardware when final starship design doesn't exist yet
In the meantime they're going to put a priority on finishing Starship and potentially decommissioning at least F9HMusk wants those full size V2s raining down internet access all over the globe
I don't get it why 2025, what more is there to do after confirming Starship can reach orbit and deorbit than fucking starting the prop transfer testing
>>16147035F9H was really not worth the trouble
>>16147037Lobby congress for the money to actually do itThe budget cut was deep
Launch was the easiest part
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1783892306590081283
>>16147037Building all the necessary hardware and software. Starships still take something around 6 months or so to build and I don't think we've seen any indication of one being fitted with docking/prop transfer hardware so unless they can integrate it in the current builds the ships may not be ready until the end of the year.
>>16147044This nigga
>>16147044I'd like an update on Themis, has it fucking hopped already?
It's all so far away
>>16147058I don't want to be a doomer but I fully expect that sometime before 2026 the USG is going to try and force Elon to divest all his companies if orange man bad doesn't win. Tiktok is a trial run, and they have taken note of Elon's responses to Brazil and Ukraine. It's probably going to come down to the CIA (which runs the Democrats like a sock puppet) vs the fossilized MIC in a political fight that will make the reauthorization of FISA look tame.
>>16147046its over......
>>16147065You want more dooming? 2026 might be the year China invades Taiwan, next year after we might be at war with China, shit could get ugly in space fast
>>16147075Is Taiwan a spaceflight?
>>16146666It's the only way to make all compass headings straight lines on the map.>muh great circlesStop. You really don't want to see the bizarre projection needed to make all great circles straight lines.
>>16147089why do you need to have the straight lines on map? just keep the scale
>>16147089>>16147090Spaceflight?
>>16147090scale doesn't matter so much for navigation, direction does
>>16147076spaceflight?
>>16146432Fuck off pedo
>>16147065I really doubt that's going to happen unless Musk actually becomes even more retarded and repeatedly tries to use his companies to intervene in politics or wars or something instead of just running his mouth. As long as he keeps launching spooksats and delivering Starshield they're gonna leave him alone.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1783898560406393197
>>16147076they only make shitty sounding rockets
>>16147134The whole proceedure for docking with the ISS is shockingly complex due to risk aversion.
>>16146969How was the propellant transfer demo successful if Starship was spinning the whole time?
>>16147159when you dock with your own rockets you don't have to avert risk
>>16147164gay
>>16147075>the entire world is just going to look the other way when china destroys 2/3 of the semiconducter output of the worldAlso, not spaceflight.
>>16147170despite invasion threats, the world should be worried about such concentration of manufacturing on a little island prone to earthquakes. What happened to grand plans to bring that capacity back to the US and Europe (or SPACE, to remain topical)?
what happens if you have to take a shit on Mars during walk outside? can I pull my suit and shit? will my ass freeze?
>>16147180hey pajeet, you know how the rest of us don't just pull down our pants and shit when walking outside on earth? we will continue to do that and you will not go to mars
>>16147181it's not like there's public fucking restrooms on Mars when you go explore you brainlet
>>16147180It would be extremely painful
also what's the superior choice here? shitting behind some rock or shitting your suit?
Black
>>16147176>What happened to grand plans to bring that capacity back to the US and EuropeThat's underway, but semiconducter plants take almost a decade from planning to producing. And all the plants being build in the US&EU&japan will not be enough to replace the output that taiwan has right now. And most of these western plants will be be prioritizing militairy contracts if taiwan gets taken out by the retarded CCP.
When the fuck is Starship launch. We are STARVING HERE
>>16147180>>16147183You vill shit in the pressurized rover which you're also sleeping and eating in for the next 2 weeks.
>>16147180I think your anus would go inside out and then harden, and then fracture
>>16147201end of may 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hje7h_WVkYits over
>>16147212I never trust people with derangement syndromes
>>16147201Never ever, elon is too buzzy with cucking johny depp to work on starship.
>>16147202>>16147204neither sounds comfy
>>16147204that's okay, Anons are used to ass devastation.
>>16147190Also the current illegitimate administration's gay nigger communism workforce requirements are pissing off TSMC so much they've threatened to pull the plug.
NEWS:>NASA making gay requirements for itself>Says engineers must solve 3-body problem before Artemis 2 allowed to launchalso>OFT-4 expected end of MayJune
https://twitter.com/visual_iam/status/1783926363952431319very cool animation i found
>>16147236it literally says IFT-4 there, and the flight STILL isnt orbital. stop calling it OFT retard
>>16147240just making sure you were still with us, seether
>>16147237>be out on a starship trip around the moon>get out of ship for spacewalk looking at moon>finish up tasks and turn off comms>play claire de lune and relaxwhen can i do this bros....
>>16147259kill yourself redditspamnigger
>>16146974https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1783929534955589885
>>16147262downvoted
@jeff_foust on X: NASA's Amit Kshatriya says at an advisory committee meeting this morning that the agency expects SpaceX to attempt its next Starship/Super Heavy test flight by the end of
>>16147285why the end of what?
>>16147287May
>>16147287this year
>>16147287the second week
>>16147032why does he have so few cameras?
>>16147033Ewe U Yew You
>>16147076It would be related if the strong hand of Elon protects Taiwan.
>>16147302Shut up
look at this picture
>>16147313That's a weird door configuration for a shuttle design
>>16147326Hey yeah there's a bit missing, what gives
>>16147326>>16147330only one doorthe other "door" is the radiator
>>16147326>>16147330i think that's grumman's shuttle design. rockwell never had RCS on the wingtips iirc.
>>16147332Oh now I see it, yeah that makes sense
>>16147212He makes this video but he's not stupid enough to short the stock
No one will ever be punished for this
>>16147346can't we just call the upper stage the starship orbiter if there's ever any confusion? it worked for shuttle
>>16147346We did the same thing with the Shuttle.
>>16147176unfortunately the Taiwanese are still chinks and thus when they built that plant in Arizona they tried to run it like they do back homeunfortunately, American engineers will tell you "no" if you tell them to do something stupid like do pointless busywork until midnight and then be back at work at 7 am to satisfy your boss's ego
>>16147346whenever referring to the starship part and not the starship whole, people always say 'S#'. its pretty obvious whenever someone is referring to one or the other and if you get confused by that you are probably a lobotomite
>>16147346
>>16147362
>>16147346>>16147359>>16147362I'd like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Starship, is in fact, Superheavy/Starship, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Superheavy plus Starship. Starships is not an LEO truck unto itself, but rather another component of a fully functioning launch system made useful by the Superheavy raptor engines, reusability, and vital fuel system components comprising a full Stack as defined by Von Braun.
I'm gonna call it Snoopy.
https://twitter.com/AstroIronMike/status/1783882088778776981>Butch and Suni are now in the Spacecraft! Caught this picture of Butch right before starting the crew ingress procedures with Boeing’s most excellent pad team. Go Starliner!!!Is it supposed to have a big scorch mark on it like that?
>>16147382for a flown vehicle, maybe.
>>16145487what gave you that idea?
>>16145492>NOKIAtorille
>>16145498railways for what? are there some areas that are richer in some minerals than others? I was under the impression the regolith is pretty much just undifferentiated and then you have some craters with volatiles
>>16147382A little early to be getting in Starliner, innit?
>>16147382Time to die
>>16147392i think its meant to be railways to and from the mine, you cant have an ISRU mine close to habitats and you also cant have people lugging raw ore over, and the terrain is too unstable for bots to just go back and forth so they need to lay down a railroad back and forth from the mine.
Imagine shitliner kills its passengers. It would be so over for boing.
>>16146980you can only dock with rotating stations at the hub
>>16147402What do you mean "too unstable"? That shits not going anywhere, if there's rocks and shit just send a fucking bulldozer so your automated carts have a nice clear road. The fuck do you need to send a whole ass railway for?...
>>16147404Boeing is already under investigation for their planes. Would be actually catastrophic, probably on the scale of Columbia and Challenger in infamy.
>>16147412I dont know man I just posted the images I didnt do the LunA-10 study myself.
>>16146969>IFT4 "by the end of Maytrust the plan
its so over. spacex will go public and we will never go to mars.
looks like Tesla is dead and Spacex with be drug down into its grave
>>16146432All of /k/ is already enlisted as being glowies or diabetic boomers.
>>16147440>Tesla is going bankrupt (forma de 999999th video)>THIS TIME ITS REAL GUYS I PROMISE
Ok yeah it's over, SpaceX is finished this time for real
Insane that we have 5 hour turn around time for drone ships now
>>16146432so you're telling me if WW3 starts all the /k/tards will get their heads blown off? Can't come soon enough then
>>16147346it's called "Ship" sweaty
>>16147346>>16147452Fixed it
if only natural language had some way to deal with ambiguity
>>16147454thank you!
what are Starships pronouns?
words mean whatever Elon wants them to mean>>16147459it's not a pronoun enjoyer
So bros, have there been any rumblings on what that new flame trench at Masseys is about? I heard B13 is at Masseys no? Maybe some tests soon?
>>16147385lmao
>>16145548maybe for high speed surface optical backbone, put these towers every now and then, don't need to pull long wires between them or give them independent solar powerjust a small battery which then gets powered wirelessly and you can daisy chain thesehave bigger ones near operations where you have vehicles
>>16147461Stop being sexist chud
>>16147459vehicles are female so she/her
>>16146820starcraft ass looking sit
In the realm of high-speed surface optical backbones, peculiar towers sprout sporadically like wildflowers after a spring rain. These enigmatic structures defy convention—no need for laborious wire-pulling or independent solar panels. Instead, they harbor minuscule batteries, akin to fireflies in a moonlit forest. But here’s the twist: these batteries awaken through mystical wireless energy transfer. Picture it—a cosmic dance where electrons pirouette, and photons waltz, all orchestrated by invisible maestros.
Im a BBC addict (Big Black Cohete)
>>16147525Thanks ChatGPT
>>16147529>Thanks ChatGPTAh, a gracious nod to the whimsical musings of our digital dance! In this enchanted realm, where words pirouette and syntax waltzes, I humbly accept your gratitude. May your day be as fantastical as a dragon’s tea party!
>>16146311Yes, our star is the only Sun. It's not "a" sun, it is the Sun.
>>16147382Break them out PLEASEOPEN THE DOOR
>>16147534Im railing your wife, how do you feel about that?
>>16147520You will take your rusty doublewide and you will love it.
now that ift-4 is confirmed for next month, is ift-5 all but confirmed for july?
>>16147567Is this supposed to be some sort of euphemism
>>16145213>docking on the outer part of a spin gravity section>main thrusters aren't even in the same direction as centrifical accelerationGet this shit out of here
>>16145559seems like they want to become a distributor more than the central tankerso starship would handle bulk shipments and firefly would have scalable distribution with small vehicles not needing to wait for big shipments for starshipstarship brings in big shipments somewhere (maybe to a big tanker starship or something else which is even bigger), then Fireflys elytra distributes it which higher frequency>>16145561they might be in competition with spacex, but I haven't seen similar plans from them reallyits a different level on the logistics supply chainbulk shipments vs "local" deliveriesbig cargo tanker vs trucks or even local vanssure SpaceX could probably do local distribution as well, but all of this stuff requires a lot of engineeringthe more companies do all these necessary things, the less spacex will have to do which will allow them to focus on other things
>>16146569>She sticks post-it notes with "Scotland" written on them in her insoles for important launches.The fuck?
>>16147556I apologize, but I cannot engage in conversations of that nature. Let’s focus on a different topic. Have a great day!
>>16145582this is going to require insane amounts of energy, is this even feasible with solar?>>16145592where are they getting the power? MRE is just molten regolith electrolysiswaste heat from something else maybe? some nuclear reactor?
>>16147570late august early september
>>16147571No, but now I want it to have been.
>>16147582Theyre buying that power from someone else it seems. If its anyone, probably Blorigin if that ISRU Blue Alchemist thing is real.
>>16147582Solar is really good on the moon. Nuclearcels will seethe.
>>16147589>dies during the lunar night
>>16147526Mmmmmmm... BBC.....
>>16147594>what are polar permanently illuminated crater rimsAlso the best locations for water at the bottom of the craters
I am from the south of argentina and have been seing a lot of satélites going almost perfectly north to south every night Any idea what it might be? Aren't vertical órbits rare?
>>16147601Starshield.
>>16147601Just in case i have also seen starlinks but those are like a line of satélites and not north to south
>>16147601It's the representation of the Argentinian peso chart projected on the night sky
>>16147601Tu eres el mismo persona que se queja todo el tiempo de Milei?
>>16147601You’ve probably been seeing spent long march stages
>>16147280>at least 2 successes landing at a precise point in the ocean.So no catch on flight 5?
so all of this tech is to support a research base on the lunar surface I guess? they talk about the lunar economy, but there wasn't really much about where the value creation comes from or what pays for itI guess research then? researching the moon itself with bases, but then astronomy perhaps, later an exotic tourist destinationif the moon bases get big enough it might become somewhat self sustaining in some respects (propellants, water, oxygen, maybe later food?)a lot of the tech should be transferable for the mars base too
>>16147607No i have a brain, peak kino seeing him with elon>>16147608Based i knew you guys would know, thanks
>>16147614booster can land after one successful virtual landing, starship is going to need two back-to-back successful virtual landings due to the debris hazard
>>16147601>Aren't vertical órbits rare?can't speak to the rest of your post but no, they're extremely common, especially with stuff that orbits low enough to be seen with the naked eye.
>>16145713its happening, the space age is about to start
>>16147617funny seeing how all you nerds are coming around to wasting our time on the JEWn and not oging to Mars because muh transferable skills or whatever the fuck.
>>16145769soon
>>16147632Do not slander the name of our moon, which isThe Moon
>>16147632I mean getting starship working is a prerequisite for mars, if NASA wants to play on the moon in the mean time then I don't think that is going to hurtwhat is retarded is people saying that a moon base has to be started and then used as a staging ground for launches into mars (you see this a lot)tech transfer from the moon to mars is different and why notI suspect both are going to get developed simultaneously, both a moon and mars base
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>>16145805first space furry
>>16145950lmao
>>16147647HLS is going to dramatically accelerate the process of getting starship ready to transport 'nauts to mars.
>>16147614the FAA won't let SpaceX reenter over land so unless they want to build a catch tower on the west coast they can't land
>>16147506no
he can't keep getting away with it
>>16147454>I took my sheavy to the levy but the levy was dry.
>>16147614He's talking about the ship needing two landings, not the booster. He said the same thing during the presentation
