India-US cooperation editionprevious >>16239590
https://spacenews.com/u-s-and-india-advance-human-spaceflight-cooperation/>WASHINGTON — The governments of the United States and India announced June 17 they are moving ahead with cooperation on human spaceflight that would include flying an Indian astronaut to the International Space Station, although with few details on who would fly and when. >The most likely scenario for flying an Indian astronaut to the ISS would be through a private astronaut mission, which would spend up to two weeks at the station. The next such mission is Axiom Space’s Ax-4, scheduled for late this year, although the company has not disclosed the crew for that mission or training plans.
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/06/nasa-delays-starliner-return-a-few-more-days-to-study-data/>During a news conference on Tuesday, the program manager for NASA's Commercial Crew Program, Steve Stich, said the four-day delay in the spacecraft's return would "give our team a little bit more time to look at the data, do some analysis, and make sure we're really ready to come home."
poo in space
https://www.canneslions.com/festival/programme#/agenda/event/exploring-the-new-frontiers-of-innovation-mark-read-in-conversation-with-elon-musk-e1-58849https://x.com/Cannes_Lions/status/1800580096732078327Musk speaking at some event soon apparently, didn't find a link to a livestream
>>16242396Elon interviews are always the same unless the interviewer is some kind of autist who can get him to talk about the actual products.
>>16242403Yeah I usually skip them now and just wait for some autist in here to scrape any new info into a greentext list. Really heard enough aeroplane analogies for several lifetimes by now.
>>16242403>order of magnitude>holy grail of rocketry>throwing away boeing 747>rapid reusability
>>16242427>stutter stutter make life interplanetaryWell, I guess normies need it spoonfed with the tiniest of spoons again and again.
>>162424331. You'll never achieve this feat successfully.2. We only need this planet.3. People who support space travel with rocketry are one of the most stupid.4. Our world is in turmoil - the economy leads to no where and there are tyrants who want to enforce its ideology further.5. Ignore this thread. It's a cess pit of the unintelligent.
>>16242435>1. You'll never achieve this feat successfully.Not with that attitude. Stay in your bucket, crab.
>>16242439You really had me broI'll kiss your assI'll eat your fart
>>16242449why do they even bother with public commentary?
>>16242376ISS is about to become a lot more smelly.
Imagine having to share a space station with poojeets. I can smell the average street shitter from 6ft away.
>>16242475the real lesson to be learnt from malthus and his depopulation ideology is that he wasnt racist enough. he beleived the squalour and filth of india was due to overcrowding and not due to indians.
>>16242376Those jumpsuits look stupid, it's like they ran out of blue material and figured nobody would notice if they used white to finish them.
Kinda cute that they all think the Internet is Reddit.
>>16242507it kind of is at this point.
>>16242504thought the same. looks ridiculous
>>16242504>>16242510I thought there might have been some historical significance and they were mimicking some kind of ancient dress, but nope.This is apparently the best of indian high fashion "technology", and is meant to symbolize being energetic.yeah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaLSxMtDb18>Starship's New Launch Tower is Rising | SpaceX Boca Chica
>>16242559>June 15 photo pls snap something newer if you want me to click on your video
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>>16242396two different summaries of the talk that musk reposted or replied to, nothing (new) about SpaceXhttps://x.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1803385911721222557>• Soon, there will be 20 billion ‘Generalised human robots’ that do work for us. There will be one for every person and more in industry.https://x.com/cb_doge/status/1803401354372931604
Shut the fuck up about AI you stupid niggers not spaceflight
>>16242567somebody doesn't have situational awareness
>>16242559what could this material be? people keep saying some kind of silicone mat thing but has something like that been used as ablative heat shield material before?
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>>16242587>>16242588>>16242589>>16242590it's truck bed liner -t. knower
>>16242587sure doesn't look very ablative whatever it is.
>>16242386thats fair. some said the same thing about apollo 13
Elon Mog
Why are we not planning a mission to apophis? In april 2029 this asteroid will pass by as close as 40.000km from the earth! Its the perfect moment to test the first manned mission to a asteroid, its a shame no one proposed to do it, and we got no time to develop theses technologies in less than 5 years...
>>16242641we need to capture one
>>16242641that didn't go so well for bruce willis. not recommended
>>16242641>In april 2029 this asteroid will pass by as close as 40.000km from the earth!Yeah, but at what relative velocity? Never mind, I asked my AI. It says 30 km per second. That's roughly 3 times faster than the fastest part of the Apollo missions. Hard to imagine how we'd haul up enough fuel to get up to that speed and then decelerate again at the end of the mission.
>>16242641OSIRIS REX is tasked with that next. Official story: After dropping off a sample capsule, the spacecraft has a new mission to flyby and photograph asteroid Apophis.My tinfoil theory: Apophis is on a collision course, NASA knows, OSIRIS will be used to impact Apophis in an attempted redirect so it misses us. They do not want us to know the danger we are in.
>>16242658Starship.
>>16242658I don't think no is appropriate, you made me make a mistake, and it cost me. There's a lot not to forgive you for, if I'm gonna do that I'll require sense from you. Apparently this is ok. I'm just playing by the colors, doing what is lawful and beneficent for all.
>>16242658SRBs. the technology already exists. its called the X-71
whats with all of these space companies going under or having layoffs? spacex is the only profitable company or what?
>>16242667a lot of space companies only exist as VC scamsunfortunately it's impossible to tell which ones are real and which ones are fake, even for the guys making them
>>16242667Spacex is the only one with reusability.For some bizarre reason companies have up until now been extremely reluctant to develop reusable rockets. They are reaping the fruits of their inaction and now everyone is scrambling to develop reusable rockets before spacex puts them out of business.
The starship launch pad is going to be less reusable than the ship, isn't it
>>16242678Looks that way. They really need to figure out the hold down clamp and QD arm shit.
I still can't believe those fools actually sent Baba Yaga to the ISS
>>16242693Is there an advantage to having chinmaxxed astronauts?
>>16242696I heard she brought an apple up with her, a shiny perfect apple to offer to a younger, prettier astronaut.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RAWvLmGkSI
>>16242703buy an ad
>>16242696they are more stable during reentry
>>16242701Shriek and maniacal laughter could be heard from the airlock, as she departed on Broom-1.
>>16242720Wicked Witch of the ISS
>>16242703https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA2VmXm1TbM
I know it's overdone, but can someone explain the psychology of the people online that rabidly defend this thing? Is it just Musk seeth or what? I mean even assuming they suddenly cancel Starship, the falcon heavy can do 90% of SLS for 40x less dev cost and 20x less launch cost. If you actually like space and care where the limited budget goes you should fucking hate this thing
>>16242713Can confirm, the chin is for stability when dividing a fluid flow
SPEHS
>>16242696Only witchcraft can save this mission from going full Boing
>>16242725all i can see it being is the sunk cost. for the luanches its done its obviously a success but how man is that over how long and for how much? i dont really understand it.
>>16242722And you can't throw a bucket of water over her cause it would damage the station. Acid blood xenomorph on Nostromo type situation.
>>16242727exactly. the similarity of the profile is uncanny and must be one of those engineering-inspired-by-nature examples.
>>16242734You can't drop a house on her either in zero-G
>>16242701that's very rude, ageist and sexistI would never say something like that to an astronaut of her calibre also I don't want to get turned into a frog
>>16242734i wonder if anyone ever pranked the rest of the crew by reenacting the chest bursting scene at dinner
I'm sure she's a very nice and competent professional but the witch jokes are self-sustaining at this point and will continue.
>>16242725>Is it just Musk seeth or what?In a lot of cases, yes. There are a lot of NPC s that have been programed to respond negatively to anything Elon does. Beyond that there are a few oldspace gognards who can stand the fact that Elon is doing more for the causes they championed than they ever did.
>>16242741its all just harmless jesting. ive no doubt she's extremely competent and has done more than i'll ever do.
>>16242725>can someone explain the psychology of the people online that rabidly defend this thing? Is it just Musk seeth or what?A not insubstantial number of people online who defend this thing are actually employed in some capacity by it's existence.You can't make someone understand something if their job depends on them not understanding it.
>>16242669>For some bizarre reason companies have up until now been extremely reluctant to develop reusable rocketsCompanies have a deep distrust of their own hardware for some reason despite pouring more care than SpaceX ever does.Countless anyerisms have probably been caused everytime an f9 gets laid out under a tarp outside for a few days only to get dragged out for it's 10th for 15th launch. Meanwhile everyone else's single use boosters are in clean rooms.Companies cannot fathom this amount of faith in their own hardware and processes. Alot of it is just due to boomer caution with the traditional prime directive of a rocket launch being success for the client. There has been a huge waiting period for F9 rockets to just fall out the sky hench the delayed reaction for reusablity, but now since F9 is pushing near perfect reliability figures, oldpsace companies actually have to innovate
This juneteenth, I propose we terraform galveston to not look like a depressing piece of shit city
>>16242748Thats a good explanation, thanks for adding to the discussion.
>>16242731I don't think it's just sunk cost, look at the comments on the most popular video on the channel that this faggot >>16242703 posted. It's like they don't realize that NASA is run by bureaucrats and the contractors are run by accountants, they live in a world where these organizations maintain the legitimacy gained from engineering practices that haven't existed for 50 years. >>16242742I buy it. I saw someone comparing Boeing's leaky shit to Starship the other day. Musk has them defending Boeing of all things>>16242747What does this say for the future of NASA?
>>16242752>I don't think it's just sunk cost,im sure you're right. theres a distinct opposition to private companies furthering spaceflight in some quarters.
>>16242752>What does this say for the future of NASA?Probably not much. This entire edifice was maintained by having no alternatives to compare to. Now that we know there are better options trying to deny it just makes you look foolish.Even though nasa is run by boomers they're still currently doing all their new contracts on fixed price with commercial companies.
>>16242759its has some merit
>>16242759Sus
>>16242768t. slave in the afterlife
>>16242735A bulbous bow is a streamlined flaring or protruding bulb at the bow (or chin) of a spaceship, most effective just below the Kármán line. The flare or bulb modifies the way the plasma flows around the hull, reducing drag induced hot spots, and thus increasing stability, limiting heat transfer, enhancing maneuverability and reentry target range. Space vehicles with bulbous bows generally have twelve to fifteen percent better reentry performance than similar vessels without them. A bulbous bow also decreases the peak temperature of the forward part and hence reduces the ablative tile damage of the heat shield to a small degree. Vessels with high kinetic energy, which is proportional to mass and the square of the velocity, benefit from having a bulbous bow that is designed for hyper-sonic operating speed; this includes vessels with high mass or a high service speed, such as the Dream Chaser spaceplane developed by Sierra Space, and the Boeing Starliner.
>>16242772alas poor Boeing, i knew him well
https://twitter.com/ISROSpaceflight/status/1803383396363805139>SSLV-D3 - the third and final developmental flight of SSLV, is scheduled to launch NET 10 July! After the successful completion of this mission, SSLV will become operational.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1803453396382580982
>>16242601>It's probably a few cm's thick and considering it's the backup layer it's not supposed to be heavy duty.
>>16242669>For some bizarre reason companies have up until now been extremely reluctant to develop reusable rocketsBefore SpaceX came along the existing launch providers were incredibly risk adverse and had no incentive to make launches cheaper.
>>16242796Yeah but the likes of rocketlab, firefly, ABL, relativity and astra did have incentive to make launches cheaper and they still dragged their feet for years on reusability.
>>16242396https://x.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1803452015953002920>Here is the full conversation between Mark Read and Elon at the Cannes Lions International Festival of Creativity today.
>>16242779america continues to decline day by day. only revolution or invasion by a superior power can save us.
>>16242808China can save them
>>16242808Empires always decline like this, and they usually last a lot longer than you would've thought, so we have some time until things 'collapse'.All the authorities have to do is stay out of the way of spaceflight for a little bit.
>>16242812>american caesar takes over>demands a return to manifest destiny>sends colony ships out into space to colonize more land for his new empire
>>16242821>the colonies are filled with americans>they larp boston harbor>now dozens of independent space colonies larping americaTruly a dark and disturbing future ahead of us.
>>16242826>>now dozens of independent space colonies larping americaThat isn't dark and disturbing that's fucking radical and awesome.
>>16242779https://x.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1803477094451798151>The reason they haven't been able to provide broadband to families that need it is they've added all kinds of woke DEI requirements for getting the fund including: lmao of course
>>16242821>american caesardelusional
>>16242828>400 years from now>all of the independent american colonies are corrupt empires>the solar system devolves into space war 1i was born too early
>>16242830It's a bit funny that Musk got Tesla basedboys to hate diversity.
>>16242833they not only hate diversity now, they hate biden and sometimes even democrats as a wholenot sure if the Biden admin and Democrat attacks have actually backfired in a major way (the twitter bubble might be misleading), so overall not really surea lot more people dislike Musk now but on the other hand a lot of people that follow what Musk does have started to dislike the things democrats do, though the latter might be just a coincidenceyou would think people get sick of crime and decay at some point even if Musk doesn't point it out
https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/1803434540595056884>Wet-dress rehearsal of Ariane6 launch delayed by a couple of days, now set for June 20. No effect on planned July 9 inaugural flight. Vehicle, on launch pad, to be filled with fuel; countdown proceeds to just before ignition. Then fuel is drained and results assessed.
>>16242832>50+ American colonies scattered around >still unified by ties to Old America>ratify system-wide constitution>become the United States of Space
>>16242831I don't know, people are jonesing for a dictator right now. It's a pretty common side effect of the sort of legal gridlock stagnation we're seeing. I just hope he likes space
>>16242842Spacetime separation will be political separationIt will be like the 1700's. Unless you constantly are swapping out governors from the motherland, your colony will declare independence
>>16242779maximum schadenfreud, considering their administration denied SpaceX their grant for providing the same service via Starlink.
>>16242851Heaven is high and the emperor is far away.
>>16242854i'm not sure starlink isn't better off in the long run for losing the contract and avoiding the same sort of DEI compliance issues facing every other infrastructure contractor for this administration
>>16242851In the Americas you could make tools from local wood and stone to farm local crops. Not true anywhere else in the observable universe including Mars. Mars would need to be completely self sufficient plus be able to compete militarily. You can't cede from the US if your rocket factory and launch complex is in the US. That also incentivizes the US to prevent the off world export of certain key technologies that would allow for self sufficiency.
https://spaceflightnow.com/2024/06/17/live-coverage-spacex-falcon-9-rocket-to-launch-sess-astra-1p-television-satellite-from-cape-canaveral/>For a second day in a row, poor weather is causing SpaceX to stand down from a launch attempt of the Astra 1P satellite to geostationary transfer orbit (GTO) on behalf of one of its oldest customers: Luxembourg-based SES. The decision came after a weather-related launch scrub on Tuesday.>“Dominant easterly flow will continue through the rest of this week as an easterly wave draws nearer,” the forecast stated. “Wind speeds will be in the 25-30mph range for a Wednesday night launch attempt, with gusts potentially reaching 35-40mph within any shower activity.”>The 24-hour backup scenario on Thursday is slightly better with conditions forecast to be 40 percent favorable for a launch from Florida’s Space Coast. Liftoff winds become less of a concern, but meteorologists believe anvil clouds may play a prominent role.
>>16242868>plus be able to compete militarilyThey only need to compete militarily in the space domain, I think getting an army large enough to reconquer a rebellious colony across space and with several months to years of warning will be quite the challenge.Space based nations will have an asymmetric advantage in this regard.
>>16242830https://x.com/zebulgar/status/1803458455304544555
Imagine being an Imperial Earth Marine sent to crush uppity rustsucker stick insects. Wouldn't need a weapon, just your robust 1-g physique lmao
>>16242868colonies that aren't self sufficient are just research bases: there isn't a lot of point to them, and they should be avoided at all cost because they are destined to always be small expensive outposts.
>>16242877More seriously I think just getting to rebellious colonies will be a major challenge, the trip takes months to years and the colony can fire unmanned interceptors at you the entire way while you can't really do the same.
>>16242878why would you want to avoid them at all costs? we'd learn more from a research base on mars in 6 months than we've learned from all probes ever sent there combined.
>>16242803unironically cargo culting oldspace before SpaceX proved the viability of reuse
>>16242886A colony is a self sufficient research base and doesn't cause voters to occasionally chimp out over their wages being sent to Mars.
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1803490501628498334its over
>>16242821The 'caesar' moment already happened, and it was a lot more boring this time around:Caesar represented the extreme weakening of the roman empire's powerful families which had held power since it's inception. The senate was against him, but he forced his way into power. This 'outsider gets in' moment is the beginning of the end for all empires, and is destined to repeat itself: the legitimacy of the ruling class is irrecoverably broken at it's foundations. The educated WASP political elites that established the US are no longer around, and have been supplanted for a while now, the spiral has already begun. Note that rome lasted a long time after caesar and even achieved its greatest heights under the imperial system. But the problems that system had started eventually crumbled the empire, and the byzantines under its self reinforcing inefficiencies in a death spiral of backstabbing and scheming (outsiders forcing their way in until all legitimacy was gone, right up until the end).
I hope life in space will allow trying different societies "So you want a hippy commune/anarcho-capitalist "society"/techno-monarchy? Well take this asteroid, don't bother the neighbors and gtfo."
>>16242897As if anyone could stop a bunch of hippies or fascists from taking over some random asteroid.
> da colonies will rebel! muh Bawstun tee pardy!neuralink prevents this
>>16242897That's the real reason for expansion into space, groups of people who do not want to live around other groups can have somewhere to fuck off to. Everyone's happy.
>>16242897a common trope in scifi is a bunch of orbitals or small colonies with their own sometimes very wierd political systems
>>16242897i don't think that sort of thing ever really happens. there are no live-and-let-live epochs in history, just epochs where it's too costly to monitor what everybody's up to. if people know that someone's turned vesta into space epstein island do you really think they're gonna shrug their shoulders and let it be?
>>16242905I think theres quite a difference between a colony founded by and for pedos and one founded so a bunch of hippies could drop acid in peace.
>>16242727I thought that bulge was for sonar
>>16242909of course you do. you've got your own conception of what ought to be in the overton window, and everyone else has theirs. you're not going to start thinking that pedos are more tolerable than before just because they live in space. nobody else is going to change their minds on acid-dropping hippies or techno-monarchists just because they live in space either.
>>16242901Neuralink can't really operate over interplanetary distances, even if you tried, the x second delay both ways is impossible to get around. Even if everyone had a neuralink, the networks would be per planetary body.
>>16242808>superior powerName one for as shit as the US is. It's the least shit of the major powers
>>16242905I don't think it will really happen either, but not for that reason. Honestly, if rape-land doesn't try to invade other people it's not my problem. In fact it's more or less what happens right now on Earth, there's various conflicts (Sudan, Myanmar, etc.) where tens of thousands of people are killed every year and no one gives a fuck.
>>16242921Last I'd heard Libya had open-air slave auctions since we destabilized it, nobody gives a fuck even though you'd think they would.>we came, we saw, he died!>LOLOLOLO
https://x.com/Truthful_ast/status/1753767290875814383/When can we expect a drydock in orbit for starship? Loading/unloading customers/refueling/upgrades/repairs/etc
Boeing Saarliner will reenter unscrewed due to thruster issues. Good morning saar
>>16242932good to hear, we've all been worried it was screwed
>>16242904prime example is the Glitter Band in Alistair Reynolds' Revelation Space series
>>16242587Wasn't this inside one of the gaps in the heatshield on IFT-4? Wouldn't it mean it flew already and presumably they have data on how well it performs?
>>16242940That was a thinner variant tile if memory serves.
>>16242940Good assumption. If it was an ablative test on IFT-4, then they have good data.
>>16242916I don't think people need to change their minds about acid dropping space hippies of weirdo techno monarchists. The former are already persecuted only half heartedly and reluctantly. Theres entire wikis and subreddits dedicated to teaching you how to make it. There are no such things about how best to get away with kiddy diddling.The latter aren't even taken seriously, little more than larpers. Certainly nothing that needs a military response.Thats why I say they're quite different, not because I personally feel this way but because from what I can see thats how society feels about them.
>>16242930We need these for in-orbit assembly of megaships.
>>16242930>drydockIsn't it already in the "ocean" (space), so is it really dry?>>16242953This. It should be 100x bigger.
>>16242958Space isn't filled with any fluids. Space is empty. Hence dry. If it was in the atmosphere, theres still air. This is in orbit without air.
>>16242953Has in-vacuum manufacturing really been solved? Or are we going to see 2km pressurized bubbles so Earth standard equipment and methods will work
>>16242937yeah that what I had in mind, but you have similar stuff in the Culture series and basically any big space opera (these colonies with weird customs might not really be live and let live though but happen to be that way due to other reasons as well)
I'm about one month away from submitting my resignation from my NASA job. oh well.
>>16242971Post NASA mug
>>16242974don't have one. I do have a lanyard
>>16242971why're you going?
>>16242971what's the issue, too much Biden?
>>16242964If we're building 2km long ships, we'll have the tech to build the pressurized dock too
>>16242964>2km pressurized bubblesThese are cool too, sure
>>16242989Diversity inclusion white privilege propaganda required
>>16242971Anon please answer any of these replies. I've heard rumors from inside of mass resignations. Please give non-personal details
>>16242986lame
>>16242971Proof or GTFO
>>16242930>>16242964I think it's generally just cheaper and maybe faster to de-orbit starship and repair on the ground. If that's not feasible, it might be cheaper to just send up a replacement, since starship is supposed to be cheap and stations are so expensive to maintain.
NUKECHADS, IT'S TIME! This bill is basically a love letter to Robert Zubrin and it passed Congress veto-proof.https://archive.is/KUU1z
>>16243003DO NOT CLICK, CRYSTAL PORN!
>>16243003>huffpostReally? Out of all media outlets you chose this one?
>>16242986>I do have a lanyardYeah a rainbow one
>>16243003can't wait for a hundred new reactor orders and 10 years from now 0 of them have broken ground
>>16243003>>16243006https://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases-republican?ID=2348A9E4-7B90-40D2-8F32-39D402B2405C
>>16243006It's honestly OK(uu) coverage this time and it's the first one I saw.>>16243009The NRC is the cause of those delays and the bill provides grounds to sue them if they try anyway.
>>16243005Thanks bud
>>16243009We need deep purges
>>16243009>hundredYou mean 3
>>16243017>>16243020rooks the same
>>16243003pog
>>16242849>people are jonesing for a dictator right nowAre they? Maybe a competent person to solve the problems, but a dictator?
>>16243033the problems that need to be solved include political ones and competence would look indistinguishable from dictatorship to most people
>>16243036It won't be a dictatorship if that person rules for 2 terms and then leaves.
>>16243036Rome had a good idea of dictatorship.
>>16242997at least at my nasa center, nah.>>16243000ok fine>>16242987somewhere not as stifling.
I got this lanyard for helping with Artemis
>>16242504It looks like they're halfway through putting on a labcoat
>>16243052>I took part in rebuilding America's heavy launch capability and all I got was this lousy lanyardAt least they could've given you a shirt.
>>16243066I have three shirts at least
>>16243033I am, at least.>>16243041That's just sort of how they worked in the Roman Republic. Ol' Julius was an exception in being made dictator for life, the rest had limited terms and were appointed in specific times of crisis.
>>16243033Think about what would need to change to end, say, lobbying. You'd need to bypass the house and senate and create laws that would crash the dinosaur companies (and therefore the entire S&P) so hard no one would ever vote for your party again. Overall the result for the country would be positive but it would be impossible to pull off within the bounds of the law, and there's no individual incentive
>>16243069>Ol' Julius was an exception in being made dictator for lifeAnd he still got a short term, alas>>16243068Oh good, you deserve at least three shirts anon.>>16243071Essentially criminals have to vote to prosecute and punish themselves, which they will never do because jail is uncomfortable. Maybe we could trick the entire political class into visiting an island then take the boats away so they're stuck out there, I bet 3/4 of them would take the bait without question as long as it was the right island.
>>16243078what I deserve is higher pay lol
>>16243079I've heard the boomer leadership (who make well into the six figures and have a healthy real estate portfolio started in the 70s) are insisting on like a 0.4% yearly raise, as if NASA is a competitive employer with regards to absolutely anything since privatization
>>16243087correct. there is eternal seethe here from management over the other local aerospace companies sucking away our good engineers because they pay better.
https://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1803523616526512397
>>16243092Wait the flight 4 tour vid still isn't out? I thought I just missed it
>>16242930>When can we expectNET 2 weeks at a minimum. Seriously though, we're realistically 10 or 15 years from this
>>16243079lel don’t we all wish for that
>>16243090As someone benefiting from this brain drain, please don't fix this
>>16243069The Presidency was explicitly modeled on the Roman dictatorship. The degree to which the President is NOT absolute dictator of the executive branch represents legislative overreach by the progressive movement over the past ~120 years to enshrine their policies and agents as the permanent government.
>>16243101I'm in line to be a manager and I'm a idiot junior ""engineer"", there is like no 20-35yo cohort here it's all old farts
>>16243102ehh, the degree to which the bureaucracy can thwart executive intent today is obviously stupid but the pre-civil service reform days when the president could hire and fire anyone for any reason were obviously stupid to everyone who lived through them too.
>>16243106Same here, I was hired at 23 and I was the youngest guy in the office for the next ten years. Now I'm finally older than the postdocs, lol
>>16243125Less stupid than now though.
>>16243127literally all I do is smile and sound confident in the endless meetings. If you asked me to do any basic undergrad engineering calcs I would spill spaghetti everywhere. I charge 3 hr for looking at the Granger catalog for 3 minutes.
>>16242905>there are no live-and-let-live epochs in history>he says, while talking about the colonization of space
>your spacecraft must be a zillion percent safe with quadruple backup systems!>yes I drove my car to work today, why?
>>16243145even with all of those backup systems, spaceflight is still rather dangerous compared to even a car.not a good comparison
>>16243095that ITAR review took a while it seems like
>>16243102Not to mention that we haven't had a President since the glowies hijacked the office in 1963
>>16243145Meds
>>16243079Come work for my space startup and I can offer you four (4) shirts, with options for a fifth after 2 years.
>>16243145Hahah
>>16243145Correct, fuck cars those gay-ass deathtraps.38,000 people died last year in auto accidents.
>>16243180there's no other way to get anywhere
>>16243145Boeing didn't make my car.
>>16243184Funfact: humans never traveled more than 10 miles from where they were born prior to the creation of the model T.
>>16243184>t. American/Canadian
>>16243195Do you have peer-reviewed studies to back up your claims?
>>16243195I could see some retards believing this.
>>16243198scientists don't want you to know this
>>16243052You didnt do shit faggot you stole that image
>>16243199'People' believe 1*1=2 because of that one nigger that went on JRE. 'People' also believe that the Earth is flat. 'People' can and will believe ANYTHING no matter what it is.
>>16243198Ancestral memory, trust me bro
>>16243212>"It came to me while I was communing with the mycelium on magic mushrooms"
>>16243214
>>16243151Blaming ITAR is nice, but this guy has a long history of hollow promises and failed delivery. His documentary material that has nothing to do with SpaceX or the government also takes FOREVER for him to get finished, the truth is likely hes a lazy dumb fuck who struggles with things like editing a video. His live broadcasts are equally inept, he sure spent a fortune on the "perfect" 4K gear and setup, but then he struggles like its a black man's journey through law school to make the goddamn thing work correctly when it matters. You cant be this goddamn slow when your content is something this fast paced, a hundred other you tubers will have already covered the material better by the time he gets anything out the door. Hopefully Musk buddies up with a more competent person to share the tech side of things with, or just becomes a tripfag here and can shitpost directly.
starting to get anxious and agitated again, we need ift-5 soon or else i'm going to go full /sfg/ doomer mode again
>>16242696bogged
>>16243222Meds.
>>16243222You want them to make the most powerful rocket ever made in a month?>>16243225Unironically this is what mood stabilizers are for
>>16243214All the flight data for all future Starship flights are stored within the Akashic records
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07ZCFm5jYMM isaac arthur hardest hit
>>16243232>Victorian pseudoscience eww
https://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1803552615160029645
>>16243240does estronaut think he's a university now?
>>16243242read further nigga
>>16243237One day we'll all sail the luminiferous aether together, anon.
>>16243244We don' much like readin' 'round these parts boah.
>>16243244a highly educated university like estronaut should know how to highlight the exact phrase he wants to draw my attention to
>>16243240>le *checks notes* hehe got himyou can tell he wrote that with a giant smug look on his face
>>16243246fuck man, i wanna live in that world.age of sail+spaceflight is just the coolest thingi wish there were more settings with something like the etherium
>>16243268Ships with no open top-deck are soul-crushing. Interplanetary ships should have big domes on top so you can go "outside" during long voyages.
>>16243246>>16243268>>16243278Back to >>>/lit/sffg
>>16243284Back to >>>/lgbt/
>>16243285Back to >>>/x/ you schizophrenic
>>16243268>>16243278Solar propulsion is pretty close to the age of sail in mechanics and ship layout, and it turns out almost all the solid land in the solar system is contained on Mercury, Venus, Earth, the Moon, and Mars. The only scifi tech needed for an age of space-sail is paraterraforming, and maybe an FTL or fusion-laser highway to get to the outer system or other stars.
>>16242754Destination Rebel, Wing Rebel: "Christ of the Andes is a Spaceplane"
Also this, since I posted it just before the last thread was archived
>>16243292Reminder that the spaceplane fag is literally a troon
>in some years, all worlds will not know starts but their own because of the expansion of the universe.sad
>>16243291gay acting but relevanthttps://youtu.be/uTzTH4lPSZI?si=ao7Mzju1cWGpOSHV&t=358
>>16243298pretty sure the sails would needs to be at least 10x bigger than that
>>16242849>I just hope he likes spaceWhat are you talking about? He talks about space all the time
>>16243278or at the very least a big window
>>16243219>this guy has a long history of hollow promises and failed delivery. His documentary material that has nothing to do with SpaceX or the government al HERP DERP
>>16243307
>>16243301For something the weight of a shuttle? More like 100x the radius. Light pressure at Earth is measured in nanonewtons per square meter and these assholes were trying it on a Mars transfer.
>>16243278Would this be big enough for you?
>>16242930Seems too draggy for LEO
>>16243323RVac reboost from the included depot will handle that.
>>16243254Google did the highlighting.
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>>16243301>JAXA scientists stated on 9 July 2010 that the measured thrust force by the solar radiation pressure on IKAROS' 196 m2 sail is 1.12 millinewtons>5.7uN per M2>Worth 400m/s>Working from the same ratio of weight to sail Starship requires a sail 6 football fields wide
>>16243319
>>16243333
>>16243343>>16243333what a retarded spacecraft?
>>16243333can somebody calculate the hydrostatic pressure the bottom of the rocket would be subjected to when upright in the salt water? waterproofing it seems infeasible to me but I'm too lazy to do the needful arithmetic.
>>16243313I want to go into the ball.
>>16243301>>16243317>>16243334You'll get your 250m x 250m solar sail and be thankful for it.
>>16243347That’s a watercraft.
>>16243347Why is that a question? Where is your spacecraft design?
>>162429302050s probably, starship will change everything at a very fast rate.once we can easily manufacture on the Moon/Mars the progress for space industry will 1000x overnightexpect space stations and Lunar/Martian colonies to develop really fast
>>16243294What are the implications
>>16243343notice how fast they advanced in that show because they had a heavy lift rocket with a wide girth?this is exactly why starship is our only hope right now for our worldpeople like thunderfoot are unironically committing treason against the human race
>>1624270110/10
>>16242737Sunita's Basilisk
Would installing permanent magnets in sensitive areas help with deflecting plasma? Like near the flap joint.
>>16243343
>>16243370section line drive will colonize the stars
>>16243343thats from For all mankind right? loved the concept. but then again, i loved seeing the shuttle go into lunar orbit.
>>16243354my spacecraft design is starship. i spoke with musk back in 2013 at mars society convention
>>16243372I liked that they explained that in dialogue. I can't remember when, but at some point they talk about refueling the shuttles on-orbit so they have the propellant to reach the moon. Very smooth.
>>16243391the early seasons were good for that, and the way they advanced the years with fake news footage and stuff. i think they got lazy the last series because there was none of that and the whole thing was some bullshit union dispute on mars. surprised they got a 5th season.
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1803586964047929500>SpaceX has officially started selling Starlink Mini.long post about it
>>16243403I thought they were selling cheaper base plans with the mini not charging extra for roaming packages
>>16243413fuck you.
>>16242727
if Apollo never happened would we have Gemini-rendezvous deniers or something slightly further down the line?
>>16243413Maybe in the future
>>16243424Laika was an alien
>>16243295that fag does not represent all spaceplane fetishists
>>16243424they don't believe that is real either regardless, the millions of people that deny Apollo also believe space is fake.
>>16243424Gemini was always only a test program for Apollo.
>>16243424I would be a seething russia moon landing truther trying to find evidence that the CCCP faked their landing
>>16243428Maybe not directly but he is a very accurate living stereotype.
>>16243278It'll be spinning so if you go outside you'll just see the universe whirling madly around. Best to stay inside at all times.
>>16243313Would this be possible? Not like if this can go from launch in to space but could you modify a spacecraft in orbit to add this bubble? Would it be glass or some inflatible plastic and would the pressure difference fuck it over? Also how does a person live in this with the sun boiling them alive.
>>16243432nice projection bro
>>16243434Presumably the window is tinted
>>16243434>Also how does a person live in this with the sun boiling them alive.Air conditioning hookup from starship and an umbrella
>>16242930>plain white wallsThat looks stupid, like something from original star trekIt needs to be covered with all sorts of protruding bits of junk to look like a proper space facility
Not my problem.Vx0gwd
>>16242958Space maintenance facilities are always called "drydock", no one knows why. Presumably it's a reference to something from the pre-space era. The meaning is lost but the words remain.
>>16243441>Levitan
>>16242904>a common trope in scifiie guaranteed bullshit. Not once has sci-fi predicted anything with any sort of accuracy. The farther back you look the more outlandish the predictions become. The closest to reality is Nineteen-Eighty-Four and that's not even scifi.
>>16243441https://discover.23andme.com/last-name/Levitan>Jewish (eastern Ashkenazic): from Polish Lewita ‘Levite’ + the Slavic noun suffix -an (see Levy). Sometimes pattern recognition is a curse
>>16243445>Nineteen-Eighty-Fourtake a break from the internet, the world isn't that doom and gloom.
all the people i know dont even know about ift4. on june 6th my coworkers were asking me, 'are there people on it?' when i said no they became disinterested. how can people so shortsighted. the greatest potential advancement in spaceflight since apollo and people absolutely positively don't care.
>>16243447they are scared because once we leave Earth they'll have less control over us
>>16243449lel normies at my work think Elon Musk is evil and that spaceX sucks because their rockets blow up all the time.
>>16242930>>16243442I maintain that "drydock" should exclusively refer to docks which can safely be serviced by crew that lack EVA suits.
>>16243453EXACTLY. theyre so fucking dumb
>>16243449>SpaceX is so stupid, their rockets always blow up>Now Falcon 9, there's a rocket you can set your watch by
>>16243433That's why you put the skydome on the axis of spin instead like the astrogation deck in >>16243319
https://youtu.be/GD3Cqmw8etI
>>16243449Cattles
>>16243441The article is gay, here's the studyhttps://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2024GL109280It might be a real problem, though I'm sure SpaceX could think of some ways to mitigate it.
>>16243439By being immersed in atmosphere and thermodynamics existing. What the fuck anon
>>16243467>It might be a real problemIt isn't, there's something like 15000 tons of material entering the atmosphere every year>I'm sure SpaceX could think of some ways to mitigate it.Maybe some sort of futuristic rocket not made from aluminum where the second stage doesn't burn up
>>16243469 meant for>>16243434
>>16243473it's not about the rocket you twat
>>16243469Are you pretending to be retarded?
>>16243483yes it is you fucking retard.
>>16243492>Potential Ozone Depletion From Satellite Demise During Atmospheric Reentry in the Era of Mega-Constellationsfucking retard kys
>Starliner = Land Rover>Dragon = Land Cruiser Any questions?
>>16243499Which is better to shit my pants in
>>16243449I literally build spacecraft parts and most of my coworkers can't speak english. Of those that do, most of their concerns are about the tiktok they watched recently and hauntings.
>>16243526Report them to ICE.
>>16243145kek
>>16243294>>16243357What's more likely, that you genuinely observed a 1 in 110 million event, or that you observed a 1 in 2 event and something fucky happened between the sensor and saving the bits to memory?
>>16243343>>16243370>>16243371I laugh every time
>>16243358>thunderfoot>humanakshually
>>16243422>bulbous bowkek
>>16243449I tell my coworkers and make them watch
>>16243449>they asked if there was people on itFucking normies man. I got everyone to watch the Statliner launch at work and they watched that shitty stream with interest. I try to get everyone interested in IFT4 and no one even cares after I say there's not people on it.
Vacuum is dry, breathable atmosphere behaves like a fluid and is thus wet. Refute me if you can.
>>16243599Nobody wants to argue the countless retarded things youve posted to this thread. Or talk to you at all. Go back tourist!
Hot Take: a Mars colony will necessarily have to be a Nudist colony as well. Textiles are for Earthers. On Mars, clothes are an unnecessary extravagance. Textiles are an entire system unto themselves that will demand scare resources. First off, they need to be cleaned constantly, which either takes machinery and/or manhours, and greatly burdens your water/watewater treatment system unless you have a supply chain and infrastructure set up for everyone to dry clean. Second, clothes wear out rather quick. You're not gonna use any of your agriculture capacity to grow cotton or raise sheep for wool, so you'd have to allocate a portion of your polymer production to texiles with the associated machine tooling. Shipping clothes from earth is just a waste of your mass fraction. Outside of PPE for different occupations and a few comfort items, there's no justifiable need for them. You'll all be living cheek by jowl in a climate controlled tube, so there will be little privacy to begin with. On top of that, clothes take up limited storage space and will be sheading lint (microplastics) all over your hab, which will need to be cleaned out of the airfilters and wastewater system constantly. You either put up with all that to appease earther sensibilities about modesty, or you greet the last frontier with your cock out, ready to rock out.>insecure fatties need not apply to the colonial administration for transfer
>>16243621retardwe had clothesposting a thread or two ago; it has been demonstrated that clothes can be 'washed' by leaving them in a vacuum or near vacuum environment. The volatiles that cause the stink are removed when you do this for an hour or two. Furthermore, clothes do not wear out quickly when only worn indoors, and as they are made of cloth and are low weight, they can easily be included on regular trade/cargo transports from earth
>>16243631>>16243621Samefag
>>16243621get a grip on yourself.
>>16242826>New America>Dark and disturbingyou mean fucking AWESOME
>>16242930I'm gonna say it, Starship is never going to long-term go to mars, it's gonna deliver parts to LEO for a mega-ship that just goes between LEO an LMO (Low Martian Orbit, is that the right acronym?). Probably more fuel-efficient too
This is the worst baiter /sfg/ has seen yet.
>>16243656this isn't even the worst baiter within the past 2 monthsthat stupid ESD/anti spacex guy from a few weeks back was worse
>>16243649Without breakthrough technologies such as better electric thrusters or some other technology that can yield significant thrust with long operational lifetimes, this only starts making sense with nuclear engines.
>>16243449A starlink deliver is the greatest potential advancement in spaceflight since apollo? LMAO Muskrats are so stupid, you didnt believe all that mars colony shit right? Right?
>>16243665Plasma Magnet
>>16243599Atmosphere is a fluid. Any gas is a fluid. That doesn't mean it's wet, it just means you just don't know what the word "fluid" means.
>>16243599"wet" means it can cling to a surface in the sense of "wetting".
>IFT-5 might be delayed to after my semester start on Elon time>Wont get to attend the best IFT to watchIts ogre
>>16243689if it's any consolation nobody's been able to see shit at the last two launches anyway
is anyone else sp00ky'd by how close Oumuamua passed by the Earth??
>>16243713you betcha. if earth had struck a hydrogen iceberg head-on we would've been deader than the titanic.
>>16243713Extremely. It's a travesty that a mission is not being seriously pursued to examine it up close.
>>16243741there's no way to get to it and nobody would fund it
>>16243429>the millions of people that deny Apollo also believe space is fakeyou do know that like 98% of those people don't exist and the whole "flat earth" thing has become a psyop to discredit people who say "crazy" things like our government are a bunch of blackmailed pedos, right?
Berthing my spacecraft in a drydock (pressurised environment to allow workers to perform maintenance on it without suits) here
>>16243765https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Lyra
>>16243777Why do you call it "dry dock"? Air is a fluid.
>>16243785only in a vacuum.
>>16243785Cope
uh bros i thought you guys said shotwell was more rational than elon?>“We have designed Starship to be as much like aircraft operations as we possibly can get it,” she said in the conference presentation. “We want to talk about dozens of launches a day, if not hundreds of launches a day.”>“We want to talk about dozens of launches a day, if not hundreds of launches a day.”
>>16243802how many launches a day do you want to talk about, anon? 1?
>>162438030.2 a day MAX
>>16243806you can't launch 1/5 of a rocket. that's more irrational than you accuse shotwell of being.
>>16243802This isn't anything new: they've been saying that they want to launch this system multiple times a day, every day, and that they want to build thousands of them.
>>16243802More rational? More like more based.
https://x.com/SeanKD_Photos/status/1803566887139181013>The storm has arrived at Starbase.https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQeONYkXgAEqCpi?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
https://x.com/torybruno/status/1803580478072525289
>>16243831
>>16243832
>>16243803Unironically yes. Dozens of rocket launches a day is too much for man.
>>162437130.16 AU. *shrugs*
>>16243835>rips a hole in the clouds and sends shockwaves through itPure, unfiltered kinography
>>16243782
>>16243840even the aliens know mars isn't worth their time
https://x.com/esherifftv/status/1803601482266320997
>>16243851this has to be intentional?
>>16243852there is also an excerpt from an interview with brendan carr, a FCC commisioner
>>16243802She needs to bear his children asap
>>16243831What is the anticipated Tory redemption arc?
>>16243860She's pretty hag looking even with all that makeup. Probably would bear retarded children if she hasn't already hit menopause.
>>16242828>>16243640
>>16243861vulcan-orion replacing SLS. i still believe.
>>16243851starlink mini is going to be a boon for the military. now you can get starlink access on the squad level.
>>16243802gwynne has always been big on starship. she's a big E2E believer and thinks that we'll goto alpha centauri before the century is over.
>>16243868That's not a dish, that's a mesh router.
>>16243441i saw this making the rounds yesterday outside of spaceflight circles. lots of anger directed at elon, and absolutely zero attention given to other megaconstellations.
>>16243870it looks like its both https://www.starlink.com/specifications?spec=5>AntennaElectronic Phased Array>Field of View110 °>OrientationSoftware Assisted Manual Orienting
>>16243872but starlink's the only megaconstellation that doesn't just exist on paper
>>16243872Starlink is at the moment the only constellation that actually exists.
>>16243713No the universe is all probability and numbers and that was just a chance encounterI’d be more scared to be a caveman on this earth when a red dwarf wandered through our solar system
>>16243835There are 100,000 airplane flights per day. Nothing real will happen in space until launches per day is higher than 1
>>16243883oneweb exists. they have around 600 satellites.
>>16243949Where can I buy a oneweb subscription?
>>16243954they dont have enough ground stations to activate their service>Although all the satellites OneWeb needs for worldwide coverage are in position, ground segment delays are currently holding back global services. https://spacenews.com/eutelsat-scales-back-oneweb-gen-2-upgrade-plan/
oneweb more like one foot in the grave
>>16243960Its been 6 months since this article has been published and it's still not fixed?
>Virgin will launch 3 people for the International Institute for Astronautical Sciences (“IIAS”) in 2026> * Kellie Gerardi, a bioastronautics researcher and IIAS Director of Human Spaceflight Operations from the U.S. Gerardi previously flew as a payload specialist on the ‘Galactic 05’ research mission.> * Dr. Shawna Pandya, a physician, aquanaut, bioastronautics researcher, and Director of IIAS’s Space Medicine Group, from Canada.> * Dr. Norah Patten, an aeronautical engineer and bioastronautics researcher from Irelandhttps://www.virgingalactic.com/news/virgin-galactic-announces-new-research-flight-contract-with-repeat-customer
the inside of starship's nosecone https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20230001142
>>16243973I’m sorry but… I really, truly could not give any less of a shit about this
>>16243968plz understand we are professionals doing things right™ unlike spacex yuppies, our ground stations will be 0.1% more reliable
>>16243968no idea thats the last i saw regarding it
>>16243979https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20230001142/downloads/23%201%2023%20Joyce%20SciTech.pdf
>>16243868>>16243851this is actually huge for dronesgod if they were just a tad smaller it would be even more amazing
>>16243986
>>16243989
>>16243989mommy shotwell spotted!
>>16243992>artemis base camp>there's nothing therelol
>>16243621Based and Barsoom pilled #NudeMarsOrNoMars
>>16243869>she's a big E2E believer and thinks that we'll goto alpha centauri before the century is over.so she's a crackpot
>>16244003not really, I don't think she has talked about specific technologies, she is just very optimistic about technological developmentcrackpots tend to have some specific theories
>>16243980You're not the only one who doesn't care, the rest of us are similarly disinterested.Virgin Galactic will be bankrupt & gone before 2026, their larger prototype will NEVER fly."International Institute for Astronautical Sciences" sounds fake & gay anyway, they deserve to cling to a clear loser and sink together. Why not choose a competent company, instead of one in its final stages of death? A glance at the financials ensures these women will never get their minutes of microgravity, its just an investment scam at this point.
>>16243890eeeh a star takes hundreds of years to approach and depart, everyone would be born with it as a fixture in the sky and there's no written records for comparison. Grug wouldn't be scared
>>16243849kek.>>16243840>>16243713>>16243741what are the chances that it was an actual ayy grand tour mission with a powerful telescope onboard getting good looks at as many planets as possible around multiple stars?If so the ayys will be excited once they see earth. But their scientists will say the lights on the dark side are methane outgassing or something.
>>16243989Pam melroy desperately trying to defend the political side of SLS while seeing the true beauty and power of Starbase, with raptors and starships everywhere
>>16244014There’s been an unsurprising but funny trend of people retiring/leaving NASA recently and pretty much immediately saying “yeah SLS sucks ass and the future is with commercial partners aka SpaceX and hopefully Blue Origin soon”
https://www.space.com/nasa-asteroid-threat-exercise-webcast-preview>The briefing starts at 3:30 p.m. ET today (June 20).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg
>>16243631Enjoy your stained, dusty clothes
>>16244016sls is the future though. starship literally cant do what sls can do. want a mission to europa without 10 grav assists? looks like you are using sls.
>>16244020you’re confusing FH with a fully fueled Starship
>>16244020SLS can't cost less than $4 billion a flight.
>>16243621>>16243635So no rebuttal?
>>16244020Hmmm that’s great but I just dropped a $10 bil spot on my payload just trying to launch it—oh and your gay orange rocket shook my satellite to death thanks
>>16244020there is a limited budget for science missions which means SLS is DOAits as simple as that
>>16243973>leaf flag>It's a poojeetCan't make this stuff up
>>16243979I'm downcooming
>>16243852Cleavage? Yes, women know you like to see it and leverage that to their advantage all the time.
>>16243979It's so fucking huge bros. We are SO going.
>>16243713There are literally MILLIONS of systems with terrestrial planets in Goldilocks zones. Why would they specifically send one here, if they did not already know more about it beforehand?>>16244012Given the timescales, wouldn't it be better to just spray out probes everywhere, rather than Grand Tour-chain across multiple stars?
>>16243989>fat and old - NASA>young and slim - SpaceX
>>16243989Is top right HLS lift prototype?
>>16243973I choose the Italian
>>16244043yeah, not the first time it has been shown, there was a video and pictures like a week or two ago when axiom did integration testing with their EVA suits with the HLS airlock
>>16244045>jeet>mystery meat mutt>cute wop Not really much of a choice is it lets be real
>>16243713They always do things in threes.
>>16244038because Earth is cool; you wouldn’t get it
>>16244020>>16242725
>>16244071Least delusional earther
>>16242376From left to right: toilet witch combat specialist, gang rape coordinator, musical interlude choreographer, shitting orbit designatorThis is what the United States gains from international cooperation!
>>16243041Check out the etymology of Cincinnati
>>16243052They should have tattooed a number on your arm instead
>>16243840
>>16244077Okay, interesting historical figure. Where are you going with this?
>>16244083Nta but Cincinnatus is renowned for having had essentially absolute power, yet only exercised it for his term then retired to go farming rather than remain in politics/power indefinitely. He's the classic model of a "benign dictator", something that's unfortunately pretty rare.
>>16244081>18% light speedThat's epsilon eridani in only 60 years, less than a lifetime. Is this possible with anything larger, like a habitat? Are there prohibitive g forces anywhere? Is there a similar orbit for deceleration upon arrival? We basically don't need to invent anything if all you need is to dive towards the sun from Jupiter to get to another solar system
>>16244074Earth ≠ earther
>>16244089>Are there prohibitive g forces anywhere?That swing around the sun looks pretty intense, as does the extreme speed correction at Jupiter.
>>16244090People who live on earth = earther
>>16244088I already got that from his Wikipedia article. I was asking why did you bring him up.
>>16244091But it takes place over a curve larger than the largest bodies in the system, can it really be that bad?
>>16244089Thats not anywhere close to 18% light speed, light speed is 300000 km/s and lyra peaks at like 60 km/s
Has anyone ever tested feces as a propellant?
https://x.com/NASA_Gateway/status/1803785902340079805
>>16244101Amazing starship could launch this in one go.
>>16244101glad they include all the american units
>>16244095Do you know what nta means>>16244096Parker Solar Probe hit 120 miles per second when it swung around the sun, I don't know how to calculate g-forces but that seems pretty fast to me>>16244103But how many pumpkins can Gateway fit inside?
>>16243802They're planning armadas of thousands of Starships with ~10 fueling flights each. Launching many times per day is a hard requirement.Even launching 1,000 ships uniformly over the whole two year period would require 15 flights per day. To do it in a month will require hundreds of flights per day.
>>16244105>Do you know what nta meansOh, I missed that. Apologies.
>starbase and kennedy getting hit at the same timewe need more spaceports, this is unacceptable, we cant be locked down by swirlyboys
>>16244099Fug my math was off by 1000
>>16244109Great Lakes Launch Complex when?Providing semi-reliable launch cadence up to 4 months out of the year!
>>16244089Gravity assists are always 0GIf you slingshot 99% speed of light 1 meter away from a black hole, it's still 0G (assuming your spaceship is a point mass)
>>16244089>>16244091>>16244096>>16244105>That's epsilon eridani in only 60 years, less than a lifetime. Is this possible with anything larger, like a habitat? Are there prohibitive g forces anywhere? Is there a similar orbit for deceleration upon arrival?
>>16244014I wonder what sort of mental gymnastics they would do to explain the thousand of of small objects in many different longterm unstable orbits and the cacophony of exotic EM signals
>>16244115Right... If course it would be...>>16244118This might really be the most retarded post I ever made. Disregard. The sight of the probe being flung to Oumuamua got me too excited to think
>>16243973the news is racist as fuckhttps://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0620/1455670-space-dr-norah-patten/
>>16244122Blessed repentant anon, you can have a Werner
>>16244093Thanks for providing me the obvious definition
>>16244101Maxar’s power and propulsion element for gateway carries more xenon mass than Electron booster’s dry mass
>>16244105four melon to orbit rocket
>>16244138No problem, anytime friend.
>>16244141Ok? Spaceflight is all about minimizing dry mass and maximizing propellant mass.
>>16244146t. oldspace engineer
>>16244081wheeeeeeee
https://x.com/blueorigin/status/1803789703004430524>Here’s a BE-7 engine headed into vacuum cell testing in a simulated space-like environment at Air Force Research Laboratory, Edwards Air Force Base, CA. BE-7 generates 10,000 lbf of thrust and powers our Blue Moon MK1 and MK2 lunar landers.
>>162441011/3rd the mass of the ISS. We'd want to go bigger, not smaller.
Thoughts?
my internet just came back and I want to apologize beforehand for any decreases in post quality on sfg
>>16244095>It won't be a dictatorship if that person rules for 2 terms and then leaves.Cincinnatus is a counterexample. In fact the original ancient role was intended to be temporary in general.
>>16244100Tubzubrin
>>16244088>He's the classic model of a "benign dictator", something that's unfortunately pretty rare.Hitler
>>16244146It's about blood and iron, or steel and methalox anyway
So who will make the first successful F9 clone and when?
>>162441652 examples in history is pretty rare anon
>>16244171I'm predicting galactic energy will be the first.The pallas 1 even uses kerolox, most other chinese companies are skipping that skip and going straight for methalox.
>>16244157What's the fraction when starship is docked to it?
>>16244146I’m just saying, that’s a shit load of xenon. The PPE is really the only exciting part of gateway lol. I love maxar
>>16244159I’m unironically jealous this looks so comfy
>>16244159one of the ministers that went with putin to north korea was the director of roscosmos, yury borisov. we're likely to see an improvement in north korean spaceflight over the rest of the decade.
>>16244138have you ever watched Zeta Gundam
>>16244137>Dr. Maximum FaggotCan't make this stuff up
>>16244201
>>16244204He looks nice. I'm sorry for making fun of his name
rare reminder that radiotelescopes exist
>>16244206womp womp
first Nigerian in space will be on Bezos's dildo>Space Exploration and Research Agency (SERA), a US for-profit company, has an initiative to increase flights for citizens of countries with little or no space footprint. Its first milestone was flying Brazil’s second-ever astronaut to space in June 2022. SERA’s next mission will fly six people to space on an upcoming Blue Origin New Shepard flight — and one seat is guaranteed to go to a Nigerian.https://www.semafor.com/article/06/20/2024/us-firm-plans-to-fly-first-nigerian-to-space-on-bezos-rocket
>>16244206I got to see the VLA once, but only in passing as I was hitchhiking and my ride didn't want to stop for more than a minute or so.
>>16242930Why on earth does it have to be enclosed in space.
>>16244223so people can work on it without EVA suits duh
>>16244171Some Chinese company, maybe that weird ESA prototype (LOL not really), maybe RocketLab
>>16244216Why though? Like if Nigeria wants to invest in aerospace industry more power to them, but how does an American company putting a token tourist on a space joyride help anyone?
>>16244216>in space>Bezos's dildoPick one.
>>16244232pretty sure penisrocket hits the karman line
>>16244231i couldnt figure out their business model from their website
>>16244216cock shame
>>16244235If it's not orbital, you're not in space. This is the equivalent of dipping your toe in the ocean and claiming you swam between continents.
>>16244239You the anon who during the eclipse was claiming the APEP rockets didn’t count as spaceflight despite them going above the ISS?
>>16242507https://youtu.be/ngKjcNqo-dc?si=LPzMad2O6FcH4aA4
>>16244239what you're saying is that it doesn't count as being in the ocean unless you travel between continentsbeing in space is being in spacebeing in orbit is being in orbit
>>16244240>>16244243Go launch a real rocket, Jeffrey.
>>16244239That's objectively false. Not every suborbital flight passes the Karman line, but some do.
You guys know that New Glenn is going to reach orbit AND deploy a payload before Starship?
why do elon haters think about his cock so much?
>>16244249I just like space so would not mind this. Probably not true though, in a way money can't fix. SpaceX has all the best engineers and the brain drain isn't likely to stop
>>16244249I give it coinflip odds of the first and 80% odds of the second. NG probably will fly by its October deadline and Starship isn’t getting orbit on the next test so it mostly comes down to how long after flight 5 flight 6 happens and what they try to do on flight 6.
>>16244247*Karen LineBezos demands to speak to the manager of space.
>>16244239you do realize your comment is a massive blow again SpaceX recent Starship test flights?
>>16244201He was wicked smaht and I think it’s pronounced “fajay” or something but kek yeah very unfortunate name
>>16244275lol no
>>16244275Not even close
>>16244283even that is misleading, the starship was very close to orbital speeds on both IFT-3 and 4and could have gone orbital with a longer burnthe situation is not comparable
>>16244285It's either orbital or it ain't. The Starship flights are categorically identically to the BO flights.
>>16244289Based semantics anon
>>16244289I think that's fair. They're both early prototypes that haven't really been in space during flight. I'm sure with them being so close to each other in development the race will be tight between the two.
>>16244036finally something the size of skylab
>>16242386
>>16244292>>16244289If you're going to argue semantics you need to do a good job of it. The sorites paradox is a few thousand years old and Philosophical Investigations was published 70 years ago.If you think "it's either in orbit or it isn't" is sophisticated reasoning you would fail the breakfast question.
>>16244285it's not that it could have gone orbital with a longer burn anon, it could have gone orbital with a different trajectory and the same burn
>>16243979actual image from the pedophile
>>16244289Lol no. BO goes up and down, that's it. All Starship needed to do was add a little extra thrust, what does BO need to do that it hasn't demonstrated?
>>16244316the only thing Starship needed to do was not loft as high and it would have made it to orbita more depressed trajectory would have entered orbit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYpQkHw9s1Ilaunch 50, will be the fastest a commercial rocket reaches 50 flights
>>16242920There is none on Earth, and probably never will be. If you seek salvation from without, look to the skies and await the day the god-emperor of Mars returns in conquering glory.
>>16242658This is why you retard shouldn't use "AI". If you had searched for 15 seconds, you would have found that the max velocity relatively to Earth will be ~7km/s (30km/s is the heliocentric one)
>>16244289Starship achieved a horizontal velocity of more than 26000 km/hNew Shepard has no horizontal velocity.To describe New Shepards hop as suborbital is dishonest at best
>>16244322>launch 50, will be the fastest a commercial rocket reaches 50 flights50 total, or 50 successes? I know they've had at least a couple failures in recent years.
>>16244348A flight is a flight. I think they're counting the fuckups.
>>16244348Assuming they don't have any more failures they'll hit 50 successes on their 54th launch
>>16244322Hoping we get one cool explosion out of electron before it retires.
>the view clearing up as the droplets on the lens sublimate awaykino
>>16244249Why phenotype is that?
>>16244283How much of a payload hit would strapping a chair with an air tank on the side of a falcon 9 be?
>>16244100a crewed ship using an antimatter drive can just spray their shit and piss into their reaction chamber and it will interact with the antimatter beam and provide thrust just as well as any other "fuel" made of normal matter
>>16244376Like the booster? I think after a recent flight the boosters technically meet the success rate to be crew rated. I'd ride one.
Will the gubmint finally put Rods from God into orbit once Starship is ready to go?
>>16244398Rods from god are a stupid concept and you’re stupid for wanting them.
>>16244398No
>>16244398I don't think any weapons systems benefit from being in orbit
>>16244398Innaccurate, low yield per $, unwieldy, generally retarded. No.
>>16244410looks like it's falling back to Earth...
>Some turtles, especially those specialized in diving, are highly reliant on cloacal respiration during dives. They accomplish this by having a pair of accessory air bladders connected to the cloaca which can absorb oxygen from the water.
>>16244400>>16244401>>16244404>>16244405I want space fighters too btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJhTSxJUIGc>Starbase Flyover Review Episode 46
>>16244421Space fighters are good, viable, and likely inevitable. IDK why you would conflate them with something as dumb as rods from god.
>>16243802Its over. You need to take control of SpaceX and be the rational person.
>>16244223>>16244226So that parts/people dont fly out in the space in an accident. An enclosure is a protective barrier
>>16244429> muh stuh wuhrsYWNBAXWP
>>16244429>Space fighters are good, viable, and likely inevitable
>>16244179>>16244157>>16244101Starship v3 would carry 200 tons.
>>16244433>>16244436Non arguments
>>16244100Mythbusters, unironically.
>>16244081I swear to god I hope they launch this mission. That's the most Kerbal thing I've ever seen.
>>16243861Nothing after that pretend disinterest in competitor vehicle. Dude will take is snake money and retire before ULA completely collapses.
>>16244486Could you reframe the problem in terms of orbital mechanics? I don’t really understand any well except gravity wells
>>16244486My guess is B since work is force times displacement
>>16244486the impulse will change the speed the same amount wherever the rocket fires therefore it doesn't matter.
>>16244480I really hope NASA pays attention to the sudden lowering of launch costs and mass constraints and starts mass producing missions like this. There's a serious chance of this one happening
>>16244486B, it's an oberth swingby effect at perigee.
>>16244471>200 tonshow many burgers is that?
>>16244493correct answer but wrong explanation
>>16244499three
>>16244499About 2000. They're quite a large people.
Will domesticated animals be able to drink on Mars?
>>16244519>domesticated animals>0 domesticated animals in webm
>>16244519>domesticated
>>16243802She also believes that FTL travel will eventually become a reality.
>>16244519Cats are silly!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VrpR4VpPxUThe odds are not great, but we roll the dice anywayT-48:00
>>16244486Assuming no friction, anywhere in the lower hillAssuming friction, a slow burn centered around C would be best
Hey what happened to that falcon that aborted during startup the other day? Have they flown it yet?
>>16244557Nobody cares
>>16244486By Conservation of Energy (assuming no frictional and air resistance losses) it shouldn't matter no?
>>16244426
>>16244565
space sex
I fucked a bird
SpaceX Astra 1P is livehttps://x.com/i/broadcasts/1mrGmyynyOZGy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCUceQzCh-Q>Thunderf00t's Embarrassing Starship Flight 4 Livestream
>>16244557launching now
>>16244563Conservation of energy accounts for the entire system, including the propellant. Since the expelled propellant at B will have less potential (and maybe kinetic, depending on the exhaust velocity and "fly-by" velocity) energy, it means the rocket will have more, so it's better to fire at B
>>16244584>AstraOh, so that's why it can't launch
DECOLLAGE
Kate's comfy Falcon 9 ASMR rocket stream
I hate this song so much, songs with random recorded audio interspersed are the worst
>>16244588>>16244557they had a helium leak btw. whos laughing now anti boeing shills?
>>16244574that's a big satellite
>>16244622SES is in the business of operating big geostationary telecom satellites. Astra 1P also has to be pretty big because Falcon is only taking it to GTO; it'll have to circularize its orbit on its own
>>16243802Gwynne is Queen.
https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1803904727601607138>Liftoff of the Astra 1P mission for SES on a Falcon 9 rocket, ending a period of 15 days without a launch from the Cape.Two weeks without a launch from Florida is horrific and absurd
>>16244631Used to be the norm
Snowstorms in "space," eh?
GUIJARROS BRILLANTES
>>16244631As it should be.
best song playing right now
where are the Wikipedia autists???https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astra_1P
>>16244621Helium is leaking.SpaceX - Abort. That payload's expensive.Boeing - Fuck it. Launch that crewed mother. Not our board on board.
uhhh
Is it stuck?
>botches the satellite deployment>celebrates LGBTQIWTFBBQ>refuses to elaborate>ends stream
The call went out for good deploy, probably lost the camera just before maybe?
>>16244654No, it jiggled. The camera was running and showed no proof of deployment beyond that.
She sounded kinda drunk, why was she slurring, slow, and making mistakes?
Red sprites off the coast of South Africa
>>16244655>>16244654They put some insulation just in front of the camera that hid the payload.
>>16244659Hell yeah, as a kid this used to fascinate me. There wasn’t a lot of information about sprites or blue jets (etc) on the internet in like circa 2005 y’know?
>>16244659funnily enough this was taken by the same astronaut who took recent the photos of Starliner with the aurora and dragon docked at the ISS
>>16244621whoever laughs is laughing like a chipmunk
>>16244658blonde moment
Update on the HWO
>>16244682
Their sim of what HWO would be able to do at 40LY is really cool
There's a bunch in 40LY to look at
>>16244690Cool. Would this be astronomy or planetary science? What is the difference
>>16244682>>16244684>the gay nigger telescope dedicated to the ayys is advancing>the ayy meme gets a dedicated space observatory before even a single ice giant probei fucking hate nasa. waste of tax payer money just like dragonfly which wont even visit the lakes. cancel hwo and dragonfly
>>16244658she's in estrus
>>16244699Tranny detected back to >>>/lgbt/
>>16244694Planetary science is a subfield of astronomy
>>16244691> red dwarf nigger starswaste of time even bringing them up
>>16244707>Ignores TRAPPISTlel
>>16244718the reddit system itself
>>16244696Fuck off Chang, it's not your space program.
>>16242587People have been suggesting Pyron as a possibility.>>16242940Possible, but not clear if that was the same material, something different, or just paint.
https://payloadspace.com/nifty-fifty-how-rocket-labs-electron-set-a-new-speed-record/50th launch in record time but no plans to refly their recovered boosters, Starship really is going to be the third rocket to be reused.
>>16244737Are you are you counting Falcon heavy?
>>16244718No, I was thinking of that popsci scam system specifically. If its not brighter than K5 forget it.
>>16244635like on a comet
>>16244718love me a tidally locked planet myself, imagine how nice would be for it to be night time forever.it would be a n33ts dream.
>>16244763they're not even properly tidally locked - every few millennia they face the other way which is even worse for habitability
>>16244742those are shopped, I can tell by the pixels
>>16243979
>>16244769congratulations, you are smarter than a gay negro
>>16244101>how much Gateway will weigh when fully assembled>weighapproximately zero(but it will have a lot of mass)
at what point do they go wider surely they cannot just keep elongating it?
>>16244742>Gliese 357>Gliese 176>GJ 3512>Gliese 436>Gliese 49>AU Microscopii>HD 260655>Gliese 649>L 98-59>Gliese 486>Gliese 686>Gliese 849>Gliese 433>Gliese 784>Gliese 555>EQ Pegasi>Gliese 581>ADS 7251>Gliese 625>LTT 1445>Gliese 880>Gliese 393>Gliese 514>Proxima Centauri>Wolf 359>Lalande 21185>Lacaille 9352>GJ 1061>YZ Ceti>Luyten's StarEvery one of these is M-type or lower as has a candidate or confirmed exoplanet within 40LY, some of them near-earths in their respective habitable zones
>>16244781pretty sure nearby K & G type stars also have many planets however because of their size relative to manlet M-type systems they are way harder to spot thus they are still undiscovered
>>16244776starship v4 will fix that
>>16244781none of them have atmospheres though.
>>16244783Oh there are a bunch but red dwarfs are an easy starting point considering their abundance near us and the amount of exoplanets already confirmed
>>16244786red dwarfs are uninhabitable though.
>>16244781>Every one of these is M-type or lower as has a candidate or confirmed exoplanetAnd they'll all turn out deader than disco. Why? Because M dwarfs kill worlds.
aside from a few bright spots like spacex, apparently much of the aerospace industry has collapsed? that would explain why i havent gotten a single interview.
everyday astronut saw the mexican slave cages didn't he?! bet they confiscated his camera and smashed the SD card and kick him off the premises, it would explain why we still haven't got the star base tour yet.
>>16244793spacex is driving literally everybody else out of business.
>>16244793or maybe you are just shit and not worth hiring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3jkv_QKAkchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3jkv_QKAkchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3jkv_QKAkchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3jkv_QKAkc3jkv_QKAkc
>>16244791>Ross 128 b>Luyten b>Gliese 667C c>Wolf 1069 b>Gliese 12 bThat's not an absolute, not all M-types are flare stars, some can be very inactive
>>16244826fuck off to >>>/biz/
>>16244789>>16244791>muh radiation>muh little to no atmosphereinsectoids wouldn't give a crap about such conditions
KEKEKEK
>>16244844>Splash your rocket down at terminal velocity in salt waterNo wonder it's not reusable. Reusability for electron was always a way to exit scam shareholders.
>>16244844this is actually good news like who gives a shite about reusing electron at this point?
>>16244854>who gives a shite about reusing electron at this point?Peter Beck did https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/08/heres-why-rocket-lab-changed-its-mind-on-reusable-launch/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enndCzvZpZk
Peter Beck knows his days are numbered
tick tock
>>16244844Right decision. It was dumb to chase reusability with small rockets
>>16244844https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/08/peter-beck-explains-why-electron-may-only-ever-launch-10-15-times-a-year/2/>The demand is less than Rocket Lab—and presumably other small launch vehicle developers—may have anticipated several years ago. In 2018, Beck told Ars he expected Electron to launch 50 times per year. Rocket Lab has since delivered on its promise to develop a reliable, relatively low-cost vehicle that it can fly when needed. But the satellites are not stacking up, waiting for a rocket.>expected Electron to launch 50 times per yearWhat went wrong?
>>16244865The fact that they're not trying to recover every booster they launch is a big sign that adding even the minimal weight of recovery gear eats too of Electron's payload capacity. Adding reusability to a rocket that can't lift at least a couple of tons expendably is a pipe dream.
>>16244877This is an artist's impression
>>16244880duh, the camera would melt
>>16244844This is probably the right call but it’s still funny to see.
>>16242901>neuralink prevents thisNeuralink isn't mind control, it's an input device.
>>16244887inputting productive vibes into worker skulls :)
>>16244877it looks like a dude missing teeth when some engines are out
STAGING>>16244897>>16244897>>16244897>>16244897>>16244897
staged>>16244898>>16244898>>16244898>>16244898>>16244898
>>16244495yeah but you should try to gain that speed when you're moving fastest
>>16244105Doing a slingshot maneuver doesn't create any g-force because you're in freefall the entire way.
>>16244781>>Proxima CentauriIt's just right over there
>>16244877>42 enginesShould save it for 12 meter boosters.