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My father has liver cancer, what are some cancer red pills or experimental things we could try alongside normal treatment?
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Look up Thomas Seyfried. He's a cancer researcher his research shows that diet can have an immense effect.
He also found that conventional treatment paradoxically makes cancer worse because cancer cells use the destroyed cells for fuel.
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>>16782600
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsRVQWfqjms
This is a very good talk from someone who actually left his medical carreer because he found out there are ways to cure cancer effectively (that isn't just eating salads).
The talk is obviously very approachable because he put no effort into making it pretentious or thickly academic.
It's a must watch honestly.
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>>16782618
>>16782640
tldr?
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>>16782679

Oh sorry, I'm >>16782640, >>16782618 is a different anon.
This talk is about how the body is already capable of destroying cancer wholesale.
There are these things in the body called immune privileged sites which are places where the immune system doesn't go in because any immune reaction would destroy that organ, your eyes are like that for example, if you had an inflamatory reaction in the middle of your eyeball you'd go blind.
The way cancer works is that it spontaneously creates areas in your body that seems like an immune privileged site's barrier to your immune system.
The most revelatory point of the talk is that it has been shown that in cases of severe fever the immune system lifts the universal restriction and can recognize cancer as actually threatening. Somebody a really fucking long time ago had a last stage tumor and since he was incurable he chose to fulfill his bucket list so he went to the Amazonas, had malaria, survived the malaria, and when he didn't to cancer they found that it mysteriously disappeard.
Though as a treatment now, it would theoretically only be administered as a controlled, local fever, since cancer doesn't give you immunity for potent fever, you'd still need to minimize fever's danger.
You should watch the video though, it's all well explained humorously.
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>>16782600
Assuming it wasn’t caused by hepatitis then try water fasting because if was caused by obesity, diabetes or some metabolic thing that is your best shot. Otherwise the doctors are going to nuke him with radiation and chemo. Being a little hungry for a while is way better than getting either of those.
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>>16782679
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDbZrYu4V1E
cancer is a mitochonfrial dysfunction disease where the cells resorts to the more primitive option of fermenting for energy
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>>16782600
hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, fenbendazole, baking soda
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>>16782600
Look up Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski's ANTINEOPLASTON treatment. These are a kind of naturally-occurring peptide or protein found in healthy people's urine and blood but absent in those suffering from cancer. Dr. Burzynski discovered them and isolated them studying the human body with a "cybernetic" framework. You're probably going to find a lot of hostile propaganda online, attacking both the treatment and Dr. Burzynski's character (such as articles calling him a "quack" and claiming this treatment is not FDA-approved) but this documentary should clear that up, "Burzynski - The Cancer Cure Cover-up":
https://rumble.com/v24fbw0-burzynski-the-cancer-cure-cover-up-full-documentary.html
The documentary is also available on Bitchute, and you can also look it up with "cover up" instead of "cover-up". Also, Dr. Burzynski has his "Burzynski Clinic" in Texas, U.S.A.

Basically, it wasn't FDA-approved NOT because it's a dangerous or ineffective treatment (because there have been court testimonies talking about its effectiveness and safety), but because it just hadn't been bureaucratically approved at some point so the FDA acquired the necessary patents to let Big Pharma profit off of it, or something like that... I don't know if it's already FDA approved at least in the state of Texas. The documentary should clear this up at the end.

And there's also the IVC-based treatment in high doses. IVC means intravenous ascorbic acid, which means the same as vitamine C. This treatment can be applied in conjunction with chemotherapy. IVC has been scientifically observed to kill cancer cells and the following video explains how this works:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g0uR6q4bTY&list=PLIQ39sMYH78ur5o-FDFfd4aNJo36NFWAV&index=10 [Embed]

And IVERMECTIN could also work:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7505114/
https://www.nature.com/articles/ja201711

I've mentioned 3 treatments:
- Antineoplastons
- IVC in high doses
- Ivermectin
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Here's some hits that *might* be better than all the crackpot horse drugs n' shit...
>protip: the horse dewormer only works if there is actually a parasite and that's not always the case
>Bromelain and liver health: A comprehensive systematic review of preclinical studies
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2405457725000609
>Enhancing the potency of chemotherapeutic agents by combination with bromelain and N-acetylcysteine - an in vitro study with pancreatic and hepatic cancer cells
>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7724355/
>Synergistic Targeting of Hepatocellular Carcinoma via Novel Regorafenib Combinations with Diosmin, Sulfasalazine, or Rosuvastatin
>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10528-025-11141-z
>Washingtonia robusta H. Wendl Leaf Metabolites Potentiate the Radiosensitivity of Hepatocellular Carcinoma Through Ki67 and PARP Inhibition
>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/15347354241308858
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>>16783109
>crackpot horse drugs n' shit
You meant this scientific paper that I referenced and you ignored regarding ivermectin, which has multiple uses as a wonder drug?
--> https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7505114/
Also:
Ivermectin is in the World Health Organization's list of essential medicines:
https://list.essentialmeds.org/medicines/58

Works as an anti-cancer agent:
https://www.nature.com/articles/ja201711

This article contradicts your false claim that "the horse dewormer only works if there is actually a parasite and that's not always the case":
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11008553/

Ivermectin's discovery won a Nobel prize, by the way.

What are you talking about? You sound like mainstream news anchors during the Plandemic mocking and shunning ivermectin as an actually safe and effective treatment against the Chinese flu. It is not clear what the other URL's you mentioned have to do with this thread.

If you are genuinely using the pejorative phrase "horse dewormer" for ivermectin, which belongs in the World Health Organzation's list of essential human medication, I'm guessing you're some kind of paid troll or shill spreading disinformation.

I don't know how this observation about your comment would correlate with the other stuff you mentioned, which is not clear what it has to do with this thread, since you don't seem to understand how to properly greentext yet you decided to reduce the legibility and intelligibility of your comment in that inadequate format.
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>>16783115
>>16783117
>actually safe and effective treatment against the Chinese flu
Uh, it got mogged there by the pineapple autism combo too...
>The impact of ivermectin on COVID-19 outcomes: a systematic review and meta-analysis
>https://journals.lww.com/annals-of-medicine-and-surgery/fulltext/2025/02000/the_impact_of_ivermectin_on_covid_19_outcomes__a.43.aspx
>Antiviral effect of Bromelain combined with acetylcysteine against SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant
>https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-025-92242-y
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cancer is caused by injuries being prevented from healing eventually the injuries will mutate and there's a random chance that it becomes cancer which is bad
best you can do is try getting all of the heavy elements or infections out of the injuries in the liver
fortunately the liver can grow itself back from even 1/4 of the liver so you could look at having most of it removed and he will be able to grow it back most likely without cancer unless theres cancer developing in the part which isnt removed
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>>16782618
This is dangerous. Yes this sometimes happens. More often than not it doesn't. Radiation therapy is known to be high risk high reward. If you don't do it you're fucked anyway. If it fails well you tried. If it works it works. Diet can help cause cancer but fixing the diet cannot cure the already caused cancer.

It's like if you have a runaway bike with no brakes and you're glued to the seat. Surgically attaching brakes (fixing diet) in motion simply doesn't work. We can shoot a spoke into the wheel (radiation) mid transit, and while we run the risk of accidentally shooting you (analogy breaks down), this doesn't invalidate the utility.. what the fuck else are your options if you don't want to reach the bottom (death)?
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>>16783190
its about disabling the cancer its not like theres anything of luck involved if theres bad cancer and its still alive its going to grow back
how advanced (deep) is the cancer? and is it inside more than the amount of organ he is able to sacrifice without dieing if it is destroyed or removed?
didnt they make some advancements with ultrasound last decade, they can mash the cancer with ultrasound instead of killing the tissue with radiation which damages everything?
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>>16783119
>wonder drug
what exactly does the drug do? and why would that be beneficial to father and his tumor?
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>>16782600
Don't fall for that bait. Most of those alternative doctors only leech a patients last amounts of money before dying.

I find it fascinating how some doctors claim to find better ways to cure things than the regular and quit their jobs. There must be a way to link his alternative expertise to his professional knowledge and Einstein the shit out of that scientific field.

If an oncologist got certain prognosis around liver cancer I think you should follow his advice and maybe see if he can have a donor/transplantation organ or anything.

Don't fill your head with garbage while being desperate cause the internet is full with things what will not help you in the end
Alternative doctors are fake as fuck. Dont go to 4chan (which is proven to be a dark corner of the internet) to find alternative cures. How old are you?

Id rather go for Reddit or Quorra but dont think that people of 4chan give you better advice than that.

Ive read some of the commenthere (thats why I comment) and have my doubts. Dont do atupid shit cause stupid shit even makes it worse.

Why don't you go for an intervention with the oncologist and your dad? American? Expensive health problem?

In that case Quorra id your only hope or maybe your insurance have options at their website to chat/talk with docots in online consultation hours
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>>16783271
OP's thread was specifically about finding alternative and experimental forms of treatment. You seemed to dismiss every answer to OP's inquiry with the phrase "don't fall for the bait", while offering zero real arguments against what has been suggested here, throwing some personal attacks and fallaciously claiming 4chan can't possibly offer good advice because it's a "dark corner of the Internet". If OP has some critical thinking and capacity for online research, he or she will be able to figure out what's dangerous garbage and what is not, hopefully also with God's help. Yes, 4chan can sometimes give terrible advice on purpose as a form of trolling, that doesn't mean it cannot also provide decent advice as well.

>Most of those alternative doctors only leech a patients last amounts of money before dying.
That's the opinion I have about the commonplace chemo+radiation "treatment" from Big Pharma.

OP can compare the information provided here with other users' answers on Reddit or Quora. For example, regarding "antineoplastons" on Reddit:
https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1cqdm01/connect_the_dots/l3tcdr7/
https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/11ybh7/dr_burzynski_movie_full_version_cancer_treatment/c6qskv4/
https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/qqq28o/drburzynski_the_cancer_cure_coverup_documentary/hk2ak4l/

Furthermore (antineoplastons):
https://www.bitchute.com/video/O0duXcZjF41G
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1349-7006.1992.tb01960.x
https://web.archive.org/web/20241211160921/https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/kurumemedj1954/43/2/43_2_137/_pdf
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15035876/
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0120064

Scientific paper about the high-dosage-IVC treatment:
https://jeccr.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13046-021-02134-y

Scientific sources have also already been provided regarding IVC and ivermectin.
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>>16783194
I don't know and I'm not an expert. I just know ivermectin has been scientifically published as a multifaceted "wonder drug" with anti-cancer potential, as I've previously mentioned in a couple other links:
1. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7505114/
2. https://www.nature.com/articles/ja201711

Here's a source of information that could technically answer "what exactly does the drug do?" (check Abstract section):

"Progress in Understanding the Molecular Mechanisms Underlying the Antitumour Effects of Ivermectin"
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.2147/DDDT.S237393#abstract

I'm just offering what I consider decent alternative options. I was more confident about antineoplastons or IVC than ivermectin, and I think these could potentially be much safer and still effective treatments rather than commonplace chemo+radiotherapy, which can easily be iatrogenic and this "treatment" arguably still benefits Big Pharma.
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>>16783190
first actually listen to seyfried's argument
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>>16782600
I've been told that sunbathing is super good for cancer (I don't recall which cancer it was), but obviously you have to avoid getting sunburnt
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>>16783362
Sunbathing releases vitamin D in the body and is psychologically helpful (like "clown therapy" could be, I'm not freaking joking; having a sense of humor in difficult situations can be helpful by keeping spirits up, of course, within reasonable and ethical limits). What else does it do? Your emotional state is correlated with your immune system's state...

--> https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5442367/
"Affect and emotion are defined as “an essential part of the process of an organism's interaction with stimuli.” Similar to affect, the immune response is the “tool” the body uses to interact with the external environment. Thanks to the emotional and immunological response, we learn to distinguish between what we like and what we do not like, to counteract a broad range of challenges, and to adjust to the environment we are living in. Recent compelling evidence has shown that the emotional and immunological systems share more than a similarity of functions. This review article will discuss the crosstalk between these two systems and the need for a new scientific area of research called affective immunology. Research in this field will allow a better understanding and appreciation of the immunological basis of mental disorders and the emotional side of immune diseases."

--> https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10635540/
"Across all subjects, increases in anxiety/depressiveness and extraversion led to increases in neopterin levels, while a general feeling of comfort led to decreases in neopterin. These results emphasize the importance of the interdependencies between emotional states and immune system activity and showcase the potential that intensive longitudinal study designs offer for psychoneuroimmunology."



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