YoAny confirmed (or suspecting to be) neurodivergents here with above average IQ/intellegence? Wanna share something about yourself here? Are you bipolar? Autistic? ADHD? Chronically depressed asf? What are you? Im currently doing a research and i need this rare and valuable information from anyone who can be described as above. Im asperger myself, so dont be shy.I tried looking on reddit due to how easy is it to search for information, but reddit is shithole and filled with bots and dumb midwits. I tried looking for high iq + neurodivergent, but whenever i was doxing people who claimed that they are "gifted" they were just larping midwits most of the times. One dude claimed to have AuDHD and 140 iq, but i found more info about his life and he lives with his family and just has typical autistic (stereotypical, "dumb" type) interests without anything "gifted" in his life. He is just dumb, autistic redditor that larped as gifted, wasted some time thinking that i found a gem yet it was just larping niggerSo. Dear anon. Mind sharing something about yourself? Would be appreciated. This place has a lot of smart people, so i hope you will write something about yourself? Dont be shy.In advance, thanks for your effort. Remeber anon, Gary loves you.
fucking captchaalso, gonna drop bait for YOUR attentionshiny-shiny, look at this thread, start thinking, stop scrolling
Im untested, undiagnosed and untreated.
>>16898686I'm for sure neurodivergent but never been rigorously tested due to ableism from parents. Ive been soft diagnosed by briefly seeing a therapist and it was on my school records. Its really debilitating in terms of navigating the social world which is painful because I still desire the same level of social connection as neurotypicals but lack the ability to connect or latch onto the hivemind so to speak. The special interests in STEM subjects arent really worth being deprived of social connections in my opinion, and in workplaces that place heavy value on the vibes of coworkers over their work output ive really struggled. The "cure" is formulating an intellectual framework of neurotypical social hierarchy and interactions by researching their world heavily, meaning I can have a clear understanding of why a neurotypical acted in such a manner, but I will never be able to research myself out of neurodivergent land and gain the intuition a neurotypical was born with.
>>16898804In additon to this, I would say another "cure" for neurodivergence is having high social status. With high social status such as being a famous scientist or doctor, your traits are regarded "interesting" or "sophisticated" instead of "weird" or "rude". High social status allows neurodivergents to bypass the social hierarchy and allows them to be regarded in a more positive light. This leads to an easier time forming platonic friendships and romantic relationships.
most of the 'smart' people you find on the internet are autistic midwits over represented in either spatial or verbal categories, truly intelligent people would not spend most of their time here, and would never admit they are more intelligent, so you won't really find what you are looking for because there's no incentive you are offering these people to do the opposite, for them, being found out as too different often has negative consequences so they'd rather larp as dumb for as long as possible
>>16898686I'm diagnosed autistic and went through both special education (euphemism for disability education, in my case due to bad behavior) and talented and gifted education. On 4chan people sometimes like to troll by telling former TAG/GATE kids they're coping about actually going to special education but as someone who's been to both I know they're different things. In TAG they take you out of class occasionally to do some special assignment or once you're in high school they'll usually tell you about some field trip or meeting that's ultimately supposed to help you get a high-paying STEM job or go to college and they'll tell you to take more AP classes. In the type of special education I went to, Social Learning Center or SLC, they keep you there for the whole day in elementary school and you have lessons about the appropriate way to deal with teachers and other kids along with your normal stuff. As you start behaving better they'll introduce you to mainstream classes with an aide in the hopes you'll integrate completely and can eventually stop going to special education entirely. Once you're in middle school SLC is basically a study hall with a lesson about interpersonal stuff in the beginning. I was sent to special ed in 2nd grade because in first grade I kept refusing to go school and would literally run out of class because I learned that was a good way to get sent home early and not have to be in school anymore. In 3rd grade they succeeded in getting me to stay in mainstream classes, and I was set to enter full-time mainstream classes in fourth grade in a different, closer school. But I relapsed, and was sent back to SLC in 6th grade after a failed year in a Waldorf school. I stayed in SLC after that.
>>16898816not everyone is as bitter as you anon, some people don't mind doing free labor for some random undergradI'm not one of them though so I largely agree with you
>>16898865it's not about bitterness, what op is asking is akin to a random nobody walking up to some wallstreet trader on their way to lunch and asking them for one hour of their time for free, this is about value for time which the op is not offering to these people assuming he is asking for genuinely intelligent people and not random online iq takers
>>16898868no, "write a post up to 2000 characters" is not the same as "an hour of your time"you're exaggerating because you're bitter, which is understandable, but it is coloring your reasoning
>>16898874ok you are right, i admit it, i'm bitter
>>16898686>Any confirmed (or suspecting to be) neurodivergents here with above average IQ/intellegence? Autism and ADHD are robustly associated with below average IQ with 30-40 % of all autistics being classified as mentally retarded. The ones who are above average IQ have usually autistic or ADHD expressions so mild that the diagnosis itself might be false.
>>16898686I have ADHD and I'm likely slightly autistic, I think it's called broad autism phenotype. I think I'm also just plain lazy. Idk how intelligent I am. I managed to get mostly As and Bs in highschool and college with the bare minim of effort and most of the people around me consider me pretty smart. But that's likely just because to normies smart = knowing lots of things. And because of my obsession with history, geography and to a lesser degree literature and politics, I know a fuck ton of trivia. I was never really good at math, but that may be partly because I never bothered to study. I'd just study for an hour before taking a test, get C- and be done with it. On the rare occasions when I actually tried to study I often managed to get As, but I still lack the innate talent that most truly smart people have. To me this seems as the most obvious sign of my stupidy.I think I'm a midwit and my IQ is likely around 110. Enough to seem smart to normies but not enough to be truly smart and capable of achieving great things.
I literally have moments where I rub my own shit into the wall. It's not haphazard though, I have a technique
>>16898917reminds me of a guy i knew who used to live with someone who once wiped with a sock and then tried to flush the sockthen the guy himself clogged his own toilet and shat diarrhea into a card board box in front of his radiatorthat's when i realized that fecal impaction is the true philosopher's stone
>>16898906>ADHD is robustly associated with below average IQIs this the result of people with ADHD having a shit working memory and slower processing speed? I've noticed that my long term memory is pretty good. If I read an article in the news, I'm able to remember most of it for a long time. But for example when someone tells me directions, I forget it almost immediately. It also takes me longer to understand stuff. When I'm trying to solve some problem I need to read the instructions several times to properly understand what I'm supposed to do, it takes me a long time to actually come up with a solution and so on. I'm usually able to solve the problem, I just need a lot of time I think that if I did an IQ test, this would be the main thing contributing to a low score.
>>16898686I'm a schizoid with social anxiety and ADHD-PI, and I scored a hundred and forty-nine on the RAIT. It was administered by Mensa, though, so you can probably knock fifteen off that result. I coasted through school getting As and Bs just by turning up, and did my homework at midnight the night before it was due, if at all. I didn't get diagnosed for anything until my mid-early twenties, because I was passing my classes and wasn't disruptive, so nobody noticed. I graduated high school and enrolled at uni for a bachelor of science in chemistry, and then when I got there I sank like a stone. Everything I took for granted at school was suddenly absent. You don't turn up to class? Nobody cares, nothing happens. You don't do your assignments? Nobody cares, nothing happens. You miss the final exam? Nobody cares, nothing happens. You just enroll in the same class again next semester, and maybe you make it a little further next time because you've covered the material before, or maybe you go off the rails even sooner because you can't stand sitting through lectures on things you already know. After too many years of this I finally admit that something is clearly wrong, and go to see a shrink (the process of which was like pulling teeth, since most are so sick of people fishing for a ritalin prescription that they refuse to deal with adult ADHD at all). I get diagnosed with ADHD, put on dexamphetamine, and then suddenly it was like I was awake for the first time in my life. I'm not talking about a high - I honestly felt no difference between taking it and not taking it. The difference was in how I was living my life. Suddenly I was going to class, and doing my assignments. I was making it far enough through the semester that I actually saw the inside of the exam hall on multiple occasions.
>>16898990 This lasted for about a year before I started getting panic attacks. I've never really been at ease with people, and I was working a shitty retail job to pay my rent, then suddenly I was taking amphetamines every day and working harder than I ever had before. It was inevitable, really. Things fell apart, I dropped out, stopped taking my meds, and withdrew from society more than I already had. This lasted for a year or two, before I finally pulled myself together enough to re-enroll and try again. I was studying engineering this time, because all the electives I had picked so far were engineering electives, and I enjoyed them a lot more than my main classes. Again, this lasted for about a year before I started getting panic attacks, and then it all fell apart (again). I withdrew again for about two or three years, then briefly tried again. This time I no longer had meds, as my former shrink's books were full, and so was everybody else's, except for the ones who had retired without telling anybody. It didn't matter anyway, since that was when covid hit and it killed any momentum I may have had. I lost my job for being unvaccinated, then was unemployed for a few years. Now I work in a factory, where I found what I had been missing my entire life: people who expect results from me. I'll be up for a promotion soon, if all goes well. It's not interesting, and it's not exciting, but it pays the bills. Eventually, after getting knocked down enough times, you stop picking yourself back up. I still have an interest in all of these kinds of things, but I've long given up on succeeding in formal education. Now I just go to work, shitpost, and play video games.
>>16898686>Any confirmed (or suspecting to be) neurodivergents here with above average IQ/intellegence?Yes on both>Wanna share something about yourself here?No
>>16898993>One dude claimed to have AuDHD and 140 iq, but i found more info about his life and he lives with his family and just has typical autistic (stereotypical, "dumb" type) interests without anything "gifted" in his life. He is just dumb, autistic redditor that larped as gifted, wasted some time thinking that i found a gem yet it was just larping niggerIf you're so sure of your preconceptions, why waste time asking people? You already know what you're looking for, so just think of that and write it down. Really, though, you're asking about people with mental illness. What did you expect from that guy? Is he supposed to be a piano virtuoso who solves millennium problems in his spare time? If you want success stories, try interviewing people without mental illness. Or is it just that he has the wrong kind of interests? It's not all automatically chess and classical music once you get into the triple digits. Some of us are just regular people who have an easier time understanding things.
>>16898998I sound rude, but i think my logic is logical enough heredude larps on reddit for social jerking as gifted neurodiverget - i get interested - i find actual information - turns out its fake news - get dissapointed naturally intellegent people tend to be prone towards complex or cool stuff because otherwise they get bored, most of stuff that is entertaining for normal people is boring to themhigher mind has higher need for cognition, otherwise boredom is painfuli dont think actual 140 AuDHD would be in in almost 30s living with his family with zero anchievements in life, at least from my circle everyone with similar stats achieved cool things including myself but idk might be biased here
>>16898998and also, neurodivergent doesnt means 100% "mental illness" it has its own problems and benefits toolike, i can research stuff or work on my hobbies on lighting pace for 10-25 hours without rest, it allows me to learn at lighting pace and do hobbies at lighting paceso, while im turbo autistic im actually high functional and speedrunning life
>>16898993>>16898990go check your amygdala with MRI or smthyour neurochemistry fucks your life, fix it, get stronger
>>16899080you sound like a pretentious, inexperienced midwitwhich you are
>>16898906idk, AuDHD, 125 mensa, seem to be doing great in lifemaybe i just won genetic lottery or smth idk
>>16899092really? i wonder what kind of patterns you felt in my messages that made you think that waybut anyway, care you or not, im not midwit >which you arekinda too much confidence in your text considering that you dont know the full picture, do you expect me to full personal info dump about myself on 4chan? of course no
>>16899102you expect others to infodump about themselves though, in service of your goalsI don't like you much, if you can't tell
I've done a Mensa test but more than 10 years ago (when I was 16) and I had around low 130s. I've got quite terrible ADHD - never medicated but I managed to finish Mech Eng up to master's level with decent grades. I work in the data centre sector. Work is piss easy and I get paid a lot- it's very intense, but since I can rotate between tasks I'm able to keep on top of things quite well and not get bored. My relationship is with a person I love, and it's been going great for a few years.Education difficulty greatly depends on country e.g. my Batchelor's was in a great UK uni, and it felt manageable. A lot of project work, etc. My master's on the other hand was in a top European uni, where they expect you to sit down and memorise formulas, and just shove shit in your brain. That was terrible, I had many breakdowns, totally ass. The only way I'd be able to generate the dopamine is through prizes of sweets and masturbation. It was trash, I'd masturbate at least 15 times each day, and go through unironically kilograms of sweets.I didn't bloatmax since I'm tall and lift, but it convinced me that an unmedicated PHD might be off the table.Defo not gifted though, defo not a "savant" or some retarded shit like that. I've also had issues with psychosis and delusions of grandeur lmaoo, that sorta drives me in life since I constantly take on more shit than I can logically manage and then am forced to adapt under the heavy stress.
>>16899115Furthermore, my post reeks of self-aggrandisement, do with that what you may
>>16898686I don't know my IQ but it was high enough to get me into gifted class as a kid. I got perfect reading and writing scores on the SAT & ACT, though not a perfect score overall, math & science scores were middling. I was diagnosed with depression in high school and ADHD in college (I don't believe I actually have ADHD though).I don't consider myself particularly intelligent in practice as I've done nothing with my life. Intellect is worthless without diligence and hard work to back it up and I have neither.
>>16899109He is a dumb zoomie retard. Can't you tell? He has the professional ability to tell who is a midwit and who is not based on the mental illnesses they profess to have. These kinds of threads always attract the most pathologically self-aggrandizing engagement on this site.
>>16898906Yeah I don't know where the idea of autistic genius came from but autism is often severe and severely autistic people are retarded. I'm talking the cognitive capacity of a preschooler, will never be independent, will never speak type of retardation. And as you said it's not rare either. I assume "autistic" people with genius level IQs are just spergy. It's nuts to consider an adult who wears a diaper, only knows a few words, has extreme meltdowns, and is fully dependent on his parents; and another who has graduated college, has a family and a career but is slightly obsessive or awkward as under the same diagnostic umbrella. >inb4 it's a spectrumWhat use is a spectrum that covers such an incredibly wide range of presentations and behaviors. There's a reason everyone and their mama claims ADHD or autism nowadays - everyone might as well have ADHD/autism with how vague and generalized the symptoms are, you could apply them to just about anyone.
>>16899139>it's a spectrumwas supposed to apply generally for psychopathologies such that normies realize that almost all psychopathologies are normal behaviors becoming pathologic due to conditioning or neurological influences; as in, we're all a little retarded/adhd/autistic/schizotypal sometimes, but if you're any of them all the time it becomes a problem.However, this obviously didn't work, such that>I'm on the spectrum!became>I have autism but it's a very small autismI suspect this is because the continuum hypothesis is independent of ZFC, but I'm not yet fully convinced the diagram commutes.
>>16898686> Wanna share something about yourself here?I have the superhuman ability to survive being strangled for over 5 minutes.
>>16898686Can you roughly eatimate your IQ without taking a test? Like determining if you're probably above 115 or something like that.
>>16899149Makes sense, I used to be fascinated by personality psychology and personality disorders and that applies to personality disorders as well - that everyone displays PD symptoms to some extent or another, they become pathological when a cluster of symptoms are present and taken to an extreme, lowering quality of life. It's the difference between healthy variations of personality and disordered behavior.Speaking of personality, I get the impression a lot of people self-diagnosing as autistic or ADHD treat them as if they're personality types, like the MBTI or something. They're pathologizing normal personality flaws and it unnerves me a bit. Behaviors or personalities that don't fall in line with societal ideals don't automatically equate to disorder. Even actual unhealthy personality traits or behaviors aren't necessarily indicative of disorder - everyone has flaws. Abnormality is not pathological in of itself and idk why some people don't want to 'just' be quirky
>>16898686I'm autistic, high IQ, G.A.T.E. student, and many other cool bullet points. Go fuck yourself OP. I hope this helps you.
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>>16899084>neurodivergent doesnt means 100% "mental illness">neurodivergent
>>16899407>imagine being called mentally ill by a guy with the metal age of a 9 year old, having mummy and daddy make threats on your behalf, openly and fully admitting serious crimes including fraud (the entire reason you will be receiving almost nothing) then chimping out threatening to murder people when you don't get your own way, then having your cohort of shit-eaters reaffirm this behaviour as acceptable.Time to fuck off.
>>16899109>I don't like you much, if you can't tellAlready obvious>you expect others to infodump about themselves though, in service of your goalsWhy are you so pessimistic? We are on anonymous imageboard, completely free of liability. You seem to be especially.. annoyed? Angry? Why?Regarding infodumps, what the problem with that? I just made this thread, maybe someone bored or enthusiastic enough will share about his life and how this Y person lives with certain neurodivergences because its genuily valuable information. And yet, you got butthurt or smth for some reason. Sorry if i upset you, maybe you were in bad mood state when you found this thread idk, but dont be so emotional, there is no point in that (if it doenst makes you feel easier)
>>16898686>why won't people just accept my sweeping generalizations as absolutesEcological fallacy and its consequences have been a disaster for spergs.
>>168994434chan indeed became reddit 2.0
>>16899343>I get the impression a lot of people self-diagnosing as autistic or ADHD treat them as if they're personality typesYeah, its kinda funny to see someone claming "Im sooo quirky and autistic!" or "ohhh, IM SO lazy, I probaly just got ADHD, haha"Nigga, you dont need amphetamine salts for normal functioning, nigga, you dont need to reverse engineer social norms and behaviour just to pretend normal (social masking) what are you talking about haha
>>16899598>enigmatic response that focuses on blurry point and dances around it>smug "above everything" writingBe more direct, or go back to red website(tho 4chan is already reddit 2.0?)
Helicopter mums get their completely normal, high-performing children diagnosed for benefits during tests. Here, that's your secret of high IQ AuDHD.
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