My governor was just saying a few years ago that the grid can't handle our AC units in the summer time but now wants to build a shit load of these. What gives?
tax, money, etc, supplying electricity to average joe doesn't pay for powerplants, big corp with billions of dollars canalso probably political donations etc, majority of infrastructure are not built for average people actually, not just modern llm problems
Overloading the power grid to compete with China's patent quantum spending and starving people for energy is better than China using it for it's expansion?
>>16951489China is an irrelevant paper tiger based on tik tok horse shit
>>16951403Data centers unlike AC's consume power continuously. >>>/pol/
>>16951403Even if everyone was generating shit non-stop all day with AI it would be using like 20x less energy than all the air conditioners. It takes a ton of energy to cool a whole house.
>>16951403If you can compel them to have skin in the game, you can force them to fund infrastructure upgrades after they have already made a significant structural investment.
>>>/sci/ai+containment+thread
>>16951523You dont know what a paper tiger is.
>>16951559That makes it worse though why would the grid be able to hand more year round consumption if it can't even handle summer consumption?
>>16951596Are you blind, did you skip OP's image? Most of the energy to run AI servers is to power their AC units. Why would it take 20x less energy to cool a whole data center than a whole house when data centers are well over 20x the size of a house?
>>16951688It'a harder to accommodate spikes than continuous consumption. Each days spikes could vary from the next and then there's the fact that thousands of humans are the ones who blare up the A/C means that even if you do have a somewhat modern electrical system and grid on hand if people decide to turn their homes into Hong Kong malls by pushing the AC far beyond effiency specs you can still get fucked.
>>16951559>>16951671This is one of the only science related threads on here at the moment, its fine
It probably has something to do with corruption. BUT it is worth considering that AC units tend to all turn on at once so there is very high demand at some parts of day with none at others, while data centers have a nice steady draw that is much nicer for the power utility to deal with.
>>16951698>It'a harder to accommodate spikes than continuous consumption.So data centers don't also spike when it gets hotter outside and they don't spike during more active times like when something "breaks the internet"? >by pushing the AC So summer spikes in energy demand are primarily caused by people's choices rather than by the ambient temperature spiking dramatically?
>>16951711What exactly makes an AC unit behave differently when mounted inside a home vs mounted in a data center? Why don't they just make home ACs like data center ACs so the power draw is similarly steady?
>>16951688No it doesn't. When a data center is consuming electricity continuously a power provider will just build a new power plant to generate that power. When AC is used for 30 minutes during the hottest day of the year there's no way for power providers to accommodate for that except by having tons of power plants doing nothing for most of the year.>>>/pol/>>16951720Data center AC units run continuously. If you run AC on the same blast in winter as you do in summer then your AC also doesn't harm the grid.>>>/pol/
>>16951724>Durr no it doesn't make it worse, it just makes demand so bad an entire power plant has to be built.>When AC is used for 30 minutes during the hottest day of the yearSo data centers don't get hot when it gets hot out like a house does, so they don't also have demand spikes when the outside temperature spikes?>Data center AC units run continuously. If you run AC on the same blast in winter as you do in summer then your AC also doesn't harm the grid.And they don't have to consume more energy when they have to cool down more because the outside temperature is spiking or they are fine letting their servers all overheat in the summer to maintain continuous power draw?Are you trying to redirect to another board because you clearly don't understand basic thermodynamics and don't want to be held to a scientific standard?
>>16951731this isn't thermodynamics nigga just look at a demand graph, this is electricity industry 101
>>16951731A data center can't turn off the AC during the winter, the chips would melt instantly. The heat is coming from inside the house. The exit temperature hardly matters for the electricity consumption of a data center AC units.
>>16951734Sure, the energy requirements of temperature management has nothing to do with thermodynamics, you figured out the secret to air conditioning, just electrocute the air with 1.01 gigawatts.
>>16951736>A data center can't turn off the AC during the winter,But it can use more energy to run the AC to maintain the constant temperature during the hotter summers, dipshit.>The exit temperature hardly matters for the electricity consumption of a data center AC units.So why does the outside temperature affect houses so drastically, but not data centers?
>>16951740The AC runs continuously at the same blast because otherwise the chips will melt.>So why does the outside temperature affect houses so drastically, but not data centers?You don't have a gigawatt of power production inside of your house. The heat is coming in from the outside.
>>16951741>The AC runs continuously at the same blast because otherwise the chips will melt.If that blast cools them correctly in the winter, why wouldn't there need to be more in the summer when it is hotter and easier to make the chips melt?>You don't have a gigawatt of power production inside of your house. So they just turn off half the servers to produce less heat when there is more heat coming in from outside, so they can use "the same blast" to cool the chips so they don't melt?
>>16951741>You don't have a gigawatt of power production inside of your houseHow much do I have in my house and why doesn't it follow the same thermodynamic rules as the heat inside a data center and how is a gigawatt not a measure of heat over time?
