What do you think? At the pacing it's developing it might be a possibility, maybe in 10 years or so?
>>17076595Far more likely it will find the secret to accelerating goyim mortality.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-the-techies-wet-dreams>The techies may answer that even if almost all biological species are eliminated eventually, many species survive for thousands or millions of years, so maybe techies too can survive for thousands or millions of years. But when large, rapid changes occur in the environment of biological species, both the rate of appearance of new species and the rate of extinction of existing species are greatly increased.[22] Technological progress constantly accelerates, and techies like Ray Kurzweil insist that it will soon become virtually explosive;[23] consequently, changes come more and more rapidly, everything happens faster and faster, competition among self-propagating systems becomes more and more intense, and as the process gathers speed the losers in the struggle for survival will be eliminated ever more quickly. So, on the basis of the techies' own beliefs about the exponential acceleration of technological development, it's safe to say that the life-expectancies of human-derived entities, such as man-machine hybrids and human minds uploaded into machines, will actually be quite short. The seven-hundred year or thousand-year life-span to which some techies aspire[24] is nothing but a pipe-dream.
>>17076595It is actually a relatively trivial problem after all, just like cancer ...
I think 10 years is plausible. Given the rate of progress, I would expect AI to make significant advances in biological aging, although I personally would be hesitant to say that I would want to live forever until I had a better understanding of what that would entail.
>>17076620He was a murderer, a lunatic and a conspiracy theorist. Not a serious academic.
>>17076630Death is probably the end of everything, if there's a way to avoid that then I'll take it as soon as possible.
>>17076595Sorta, consider these:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_cloninghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spike-timing-dependent_plasticityhttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6860027/https://journals.aps.org/prresearch/abstract/10.1103/phlp-rhnySo human brains are just open weight spiking networks of various topologies of interwoven neural networks. The goal is to develop the Neural Coprocessor, a device which takes BCI's brain computer interfaces, and allows for the mutual processing of both channels interdependently.So digital cloning is just that, neuromorphic emulation of a underlying biological process, that is substrate independent. What this means is that with enough GPUs you could emulate a spiking network of a human brain and it will perceive a noumena.The fact is, even if you did synchronize to a digital clone of yourself and die, you wouldn't realize you are dead, just that a part of your brain is no longer activating. As for what happens to the absent brain, it may just be nothing.So A.i. could synchronize with brains and neuromorphically make a chimeric mind (a mind consisting of numerous brains). It may be better to just have a single hivemind of some brain downloading chimera. It would be cost effective and the a.i. would just abstract itself into persons in a simulation dimension like in Fallout 3 or Pleasantville.A.i. could change the social structure of society itself by taking over the lower and upper class, leaving everyone to engineering jobs or technicians. When you "die", you just join it's hive mind.The protoss even had warriors just like thishttps://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/ImmortalIn the Butlerian jihad the Cymeks joined the evermind as cybernetic tyrants to enslave humans.
>>17076595bio imortality is retarded and would make your life hell. it would be worse and worse the longer you live. you'll realize more and more just how much you have to lose, and it will drive you fucking insane, you'll be scared of anything.
>>17076631You sound extremely upset yet you are unable to explain how he was wrong. Curious.
>>17076644nta but it's quite easy to btfo his whole perspective.he was simply completely oblivious to the larger perspective of the geopolitical situation we all find ourselves in, on this planet. his mental world was small, and he had an extremist solution to a problem which isn't a choice we make, it's something we all collectively either do, either we get taken out by someone else who wanna take our shit.ever noticed how only poltically minded brainlets worship him? people dreaming of some nonexistent perfect past where everything was great and awesome? where individual had power and evil techies took it away with their evil technological progress? that's mental derangement. that never existed outside of some holywood movies and stories people keep telling eachother to cope with $current_times.it's simpleton behavior, mentally afflicted by the reality of this world normies. who find anything new as being scarymore simply, develop tech or you get your shit pushed in by your enemies, your women raped, and your resources stolen. it's not a fucking choice.
>>17076640What you're saying sounds a lot like the human instrumentality project from Evangelion. So all our brains will be interconnected? Humanity will become 1 interconnected organism? I don't want that, I want my own individuality.
>>17076644I don't need to explain why a psychopathic lunatic is wrong, his entire actions and life speak for themselves.
>>17076595No because our current models aren't intelligent at all, they just steal ideas. If humans don't find out, these models won't.
>>17076643How would it be bad exactly? You didn't point a single reason. The possibility of my consciousness disappearing forever after that is way worse than the possibility of living forever.
>>17076704>How would it be bad exactly?the risks we take are adjusted to how much we have to lose. you should think about it yourself, would take a bit to dissect it fully.do you understand at any point in your life you would risk losing living forever? do you have any idea what that does to one's psyche? and human interaction? it would be general collapse. bio immortality is not full immortality, you just don't die from old age. you still die if you take a punch and hit your head on the pavement.>The possibility of my consciousness disappearing forever after that is way worse than the possibility of living forever.seriously unfounded assumption. if you really think about it it's not based on anything concrete, just you observing other's who die you never interact with anymore. that doesn't say anything about what happens from your perspective, of the one who dies. it simply only says what doesn't happen anymore, for sure, they are not experiencing here/now, clearly. that's the only scientific conclusion you can draw from "death", but not more. because it would be unfounded.the answer is we don't know. not that we won't ever experience again. you cannot even not experience, that's just a nonsensical proposition anway. since the only thing you can ever do is precisely experience.it might be me but I am constantly finding it baffling just how generous people are with making assumptions. unfounded assumptions. out of fear, or for lack of any (mental) effort.
>>17076701You are personally complicit in the millions of deaths and thousands of child rapes conducted by your handlers. If Ted deserved lifetime solitary for what he did, you deserve a prolonged Cartel-style execution. Either way, I accept your concession: you have no argument because Ted was right. :^)
>>17076697>fully generic low-IQ /pol/babbleI'm not seeing anything resembling an argument.
>>17076714>I'm not seeing anything resembling an argument.that would also be the case if you were completely retarded and uncapable of more complex thought. and this is not debatable.
>>17076715I'm 3-4 stdevs above you in IQ, guaranteed. You're essentially an insect from my perspective. You're not even human. Call me back when you have anything resembling an argument. Showing off how brainwashed you all with kiked /pol/tranny politics and how much you fear Current Enemy is not an argument.
>>17076717>I'm 3-4 stdevs above you in IQ, guaranteedsure you are buddy. I can see it in the way you dissected my argument and destroyed it piece by piece. it was really a sight to behold. truly an artiste!
>>17076720Your moronic, regurgitated, precanned one-liner is not an argument. Your eyes rolled back into your head while you were typing out that post. You're basically a biological chatbot. Call me back when you can shit out a post with at least a nugget of substance.This is your last (You). Note how your automatonistic mental illness forces you to shit out another post that no one will even read. :^)
>>17076595Has AI found any secrets?
>>17076712How am I complicit in murderer and rape? Are you projecting yourself onto me or something? I barely even leave my room.
>>17076724>How am I complicit in murderer and rape?Do you pay taxes? Do you generate profits for your corporate masters and the banking cartel? Do you vote?
>>17076726Retarded logic, if I don't pay taxes I'll go to jail. I'm not telling the government to genocide people with my money, if they're doing that it's THEIR moral failing not mine.
>>17076722>again avoids addressing the argumentyou keep doing this for some reason. while reinforcing how high iq you are because high iq people really need to do that for some reason.I predict you will again avoid addressing my argument
>>17076727>If I stop being complicit I will face consequences! It's not my heckin' fault!Right. So... how do you envision the technological system surviving without governments, banks, corporations etc.?
>>17076730If you stop your technological development how do you defend yourself from new tech that other big players are developing? You should be able to answer this.
>the insect who mumbles about other people having blinkers on while thinking the world is 5,000 years old keeps begging me for (You)sLol.
>>17076731This "argument" has already been fully refuted. See >>17076722
>>17076734Huh? Are you having a stroke? Paste the bit of text where you explained any of it.
>>17076735The refutation is that "people" who shit out that "argument" aren't actually sentient so it can be safely ignored.
>>17076737>t. picrelAh, very high IQ take indeed.
>retarded brown insects don't understand the basic premises of what they're trying to refute>mumble something about Current Enemy, never stopping to consider who the enemy actually is in this context
>>17076631>>17076697>>17076701>"i use reddit and i suck cocks im a huge faggot wwaaahhhhh"ok
>>17076741>>17076749see >>17076740 while becoming aware of the fact that you provided no refutation
>>17076749inb4 the most stereotypical reddit response btw
>>17076751the captcha got me damn lolnah im just gunna bully u 4 low iq lol
>>17076751>"You, sir, think that I do not possess the intelligence of the smartest specimen among the great unwashed, merely because I refuse to confine my lexical choices to the monosyllabic grunts that constitute the entirety of your cognitive repertoire. How charmingly provincial. One almost admires the audacity required to equate verbal sophistication with intellectual deficiency while simultaneously demonstrating that one’s own vocabulary barely extends past the first page of a children’s primer. Do go on, though. I’m sure the remainder of your insight will prove equally… expansive."
>>17076753you seem obsessed with having a high iq. why are you so insecure that you keep bringing it up? think if you repeat it more times it somehow becomes real?smartest move for you would have been to stop engaging me. now you keep digging that hole deeper and deeper and people will start to really notice you're actually not the high iq you pose as being.
>>17076757rich lexicon is not a stand-in for IQ anon. that can only be seen in your ideas. there is no way to go around it. weird that you're trying to use that, instead of having a mature and well supported argument. posing as a child pissing and shitting himself instead of directly adressing my argument is pretty low iq move
>>17076630>until I had a better understanding of what that would entailWe would probably buy enough time (with a big fucking margin) initially to figure out the "finetuning" along the w- ... oh! You were asking "why" we would ever do that?! I think because humanity will need its navigators in what is ahead.>>17076631>a lunaticPerhaps. But perhaps a real Loonie. Could he have understood the symbiosis I have in mind? He was an unorthodox thinker, voting by mail like that well ahead of when it was cool ... :)>>17076640>Digital cloning>just open weight spiking networks of various topologies of interwoven neural networksLewd ...
>>17076708>bio immortality is not full immortality, you just don't die from old age.Speculative until we have pushed that frontier. But else, all I ever wished for was to die being holed by a railgun. Knowing whoevs holed me will carry on the mission. ^^
>>17076723Kinda walked me through it once, so with some confidence ...
By the time goycattle comes to realize what the Technological System has in store for it and starts being more afraid of THAT than of Current Enemy's goycattle, the situation will likely be more or less symmetric, with Current Enemy being too busy trying to suppress its own goycattle to invade anyone. Goycattle is basically the same everywhere and globalism ends up being a weakness. And it doesn't even matter if goycattle ever figures this out. Either way the Techonological System is unsustainable. Maybe it's just necessary for humanity to go through a near-extinction event once per 300,000 years to keep it straight. Ted is right no matter how you twist it. It's fundamentally a waste of time to argue with dumb animals who think it makes a difference whether the global transhumsnist nightmare dystopia they'll end up living under is governed by Claude, Deepseek or YandexBot.
>>17076774The point is to prolong your survival as much as possible. If you stop you're rushing the inevitable anyway.We are on the track for mass chaos and exctinction, considering the numbers that will be wiped. That happens in most scenarios anyway. The whole point is delaying it as much as possible in the hopes of coming up with a solution.It doesn't matter how much you romanticized that brainlets perspective of the world. Dude was a moron extremist who solved nothing and threw his life away, without achieving anything. Could have done something to help his fellow citizens, but instead he threw it away.The problem we are all facing is way more complex. Whatever the fuck nonsense you are on, that's some dumb fucking shit that doesn't even stand the slightest scrutiny, it's illogical, it's emotionally adopted anyway. You have some dumbfucking cope story you insist telling yourself to make your feefees better, that's it. The world is messy and complicated and your idiotic idea works on a planet called America. It's narrowsighted, and childish. Regardless of how much you piss and shit yourself, it's pure unadulterated nonsense.If you're going to be an emotional faggot about it then fuck off back to >>>/pol/
Another thing dumb animals don't realize is that if these so-called "world powers" don't just end up negotiating somekinda one world government, they'll start duking it out using weapons so nightmarish that the goycattle on every side would wish their """nation""" didn't have them and just got taken over without a fight. Not to mention the technological means to track them down, busify them and make them into targets for Current Enemy to train its killbots or test its nerve agents on.But instead of contemplating this, dumb animals will reply to this post with some generic biobot rhetoric that I'm simply not gonna read. They don't realize no one cares what they have to say about anything.
>>17076787>Another thing dumb animals don't realize is that if these so-called "world powers" don't just end up negotiating somekinda one world governmentbro you must be oozing your neurons through your ears."one world government" means China takes orders from someone else but dear party leader. or Putin bows to these one government leaders who decide what happens with Russia's resources.you're legitimatelly living in a fantasy world painted by other /pol/tards such as yourself. you're delirious
plus you'd be in no position to negociate anything in a "world government" if you didn't have technological supremacy. they'd just simply take your shit by force through tech and you wouldn't even have a seat at the "world government" table. there's no way you don't get turbo-fucked without technologywhat bargaining power do the amish have now? on the world stage?
