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Thread for drawfriends to find other drawfriends!
>asl
>about
>looking for
>not looking for
>contact
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>A/S/L
20s/M
>hobbies/interests
drawing, anime & manga, videogames ( fighting games, pokemon,ff14, fate, nintendo, jrpgs, rpgmaker,monster hunter, sonic, vocaloid,yugioh) internet culture, otomads & ytpmvs, old internet, tokusatsu, /m/ and mechas , weeb shit, /x/ , I also speak spanish
>looking for
girls, similar artist friends from anywhere, who are asocial,loners and-or perverted, voicechats
>not looking for
ghosting, normalfags, trannies,woke shit.
>tag
axzzell
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bruh
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artist girls are psychotic
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>>34317347

>Age
21

>Sex
Dude

>Location
U.S.A

>Race
Half Virus Infected Reploid Half Devil

>Interests/Info
Proud artist/Gamer and E-Thug who can be observed in his freetime fragging harder than humanly possible. He enjoys drawing whatever he feels like at any given time, but his favorites are babes with huge tits and stomachs and Hedgehogs

>Boards
Born on: /v/
Died on: /a/, /co/, /ic/, /vg/, /vr/

>What are you looking for?
Dudes and fujoshi who have evolved to adapt to combat (i.e - people with ki: So i guess no one on this board lol) and thus can talk about cooll stuff like me like anime and video games (BUT GOOD ONES. DO NOT MESSAGE ME IF ALL YOU PLAY IS GOYFEED LIKE VALORANT, APEX LEDGENDS OR LEAUGE. I can write an entire thesis on why people who play these have mini stars of david instead of having cells and atoms but the word limit would twerk on my neck. my 3x3 is here https://mysticcombat.com/aboutme/Vidya3x3.jpg if you wish to pre emtivley understand more about my refined taste [To clarify a specific entry on the 3x3, no Fortnite does not count as goyfeed because it has Saiyajin and Nameks in it.] ). but we dont have to completely share interests im open to anything thats not weak


>Who don't you want to add you?
Children, Trannies and Pinkos who only frequent shit like /soc/ /r9k/ or /b/ (the "people" listed on this line will kill themselves or be killed [by me] in around 40 seconds so theres no point in talking to them )

>Contact info
sticksuicide on discord
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>>34321228
Explain
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>>34321228
writer men are worse
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I wish an female artist friend to chat about everything and also talk about drawings and motivates each other, especially if she is kinky too
Disc is magnumdml
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Show me your art! I love chatting about processes, sharing wips, and helping each other grow as an artist. I'll be happy if you just want a fanboy to glaze your work.

disc: geno_whirl
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>>34321228
why are they? I just got to know one (my first) and she seems kind of cool, but her life is the biggest dumpster fire on the planet

I am thinking of giving another one a go because I like the messy emotional part of them
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>>34328853
Lucky one. Found a good one
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>>34323272
how so?
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>asl
m19?
>about
ad perpetuum tourist of wherever i am -- i'm okay with that usually, but it depends on the quality of my outputs/progression, which has hit a plateau. i do not expect, this is a crapshoot after a handful a' sleepless nights. also i cook a mean ossobuco very proud of it
>looking for
humanity
>not looking for
people who want to eat my intestines (romance), want to poke my eyes (romance), lock me in their basement (guess)
>contact
xmpp: rainbunny@jabjab.de | signal: @bunnypiety.18 | mail: credible0ceans@gmail.com | discord: fourthletter | carrier pigeon: id number 103 with a tiny star shaped scuff on the beak | telepathic locus: take a right from the consciousness matrix go straight down the road 'til you reach the statue of oedipus rex -- big and scary, can't miss it; then to the left and right behind the arby's is my humble abode (brown decommissioned dumpster)
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waw
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>>34321565
>blatant pedophile
>born on: /v/
kek
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wanderful
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>>34330925
You should consider the type of man who would become not an author, but merely a "writer." In the former case, he has something to say and the desire and capacity within himself to complete it. He is willing to take action and to confront his thoughts head-on, even when it is painful for him to do so. He may be over-intellectualizing, pretentious, aloof, unstable, or not, but he is still driven by artistic strength and ambition, and at the very least this translates into a more authentic relationship.

In contrast, the "writer" writes because he has nothing to say. He is so full of unfinished and unpursued thoughts and emotions that, like his loves and dreams, will either be forgone or approached only half-heartedly, ready to be abandoned at the first sign of trouble or insecurity. He is everything wrong with an author, but nothing right.
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>>34337179
i don't honestly think all this was within the idea of the anon i referred to, as it seemed to be a simple personal against a certain category: since it was replying to 'artist girls are psychotic', it would segue into 'men who write [regardless of author/writer distinction] are more so', whereas this delves more into the semantic.
that said, i still don't see how this 'writer'-type has "nothing to say" -- i think that even one's most mediocre of efforts to transcribe a modicum of their consciousness into words still holds a degree of veritable humanity that is all as genuine as a lauded writer's, for consciousness itself is a curious product of time, environment and individual perception. otherwise agree that one's work must be engaged on the merits of their intent and drive, and unmemorable writings will yield an unmemorable writer
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>>34337356
>i don't honestly think all this was within the idea of the anon i referred to
Of course it wasn't, both of us know it was a negative generalization anon had because of a single experience.
>i think that even one's most mediocre of efforts to transcribe a modicum of their consciousness into words still holds a degree of veritable humanity that is all as genuine as a lauded writer's
I'm sure there are people who could enjoy watching fruit taped to a wall as well, but no one should think the fruit is saying anything. I'm sure you'll be tempted to make the age-old "meaning is what you..." argument; anyone can bludgeon a topic with the hammer of nihilism like some neolithic caveman, but it doesn't make for meaningful or, most of all, interesting discussion.
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>>34338141
yea, i was mostly confused about why develop an idea over something so silly... regardless it is welcome
>fruit taped to a wall, post-structuralism
that'd be a real low hanging fruit point for an also low hanging fruit (ha) example... i'd say that even my standard for 'most mediocre effort' is already higher than pieces which get their recognition not from original intent and a genuine collective work of criticism and analysis, but from almost purely public scandal.
that said, while i don't subscribe to the idea that meaning is up to the vision of the individual -- whether this is artist or observer, i do accept barthes' semiotic theory that it is actually a collective effort on both parties to advance fruitful interpretations regarding aesthetic, cultural or ideological aspects of a piece:
hence, while i don't consider fruit taped to a wall to be particularly valuable art, i also find it incorrect to liken it to a nihilistic call to the void, since its meaning could be derived by the generated discourse about what is and isn't art.
anyway, my bottom line was that i enjoy reading about and experiencing the averageness and mediocrity of people as much as i do examples of sheer excellence, but i'm starting to suspect my idea of the former terms were much more romanticized than yours
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>asl
27 F MI
>about
Im a suicidal loser who likes to draw
>looking for
Following some cool artist, art trades, art collabs. Character drawings. Looking for someone who draws the kinda things i do.
>contact
LittleAnimalCracker
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>>34339020
>yea, i was mostly confused about why develop an idea over something so silly...
Then you're trying way too hard to pretend to be smart on an imageboard. By context, the distinction made here >>34337179 hinges purely on those who complete and release works and those who aimlesslessly write, with the former's perseverence in writing translating into capacity to maintain relationships, while the latter's more encompasses the serial underachiever who flits from idea to idea without ever sticking with one; This could also be compared to the kind of pseudointellectual who styles himself on Barthes.
>my standard for 'most mediocre effort' is already higher...
>hence, while i don't consider fruit taped to a wall to be particularly valuable art, ... meaning is derived by...
The statements that the banana has value and "that meaning is [not] up to the vision of the individual -- whether this is artist or observer," are mutually exclusive. You can attempt to mitigate it by being very ambiguous ("particularly valuable...") but the inherent contradiction in saying you do not believe art is subjective yet defending the Comedian is unavoidable; The art would purely be the cocreative process between artist and observer, not in the art itself.

Furthermore, everyone already knows that the Comedian can be considered commentary on art, but in doing so you are only pointlessly displacing the problem of the banana's nihilism. Of course the writer's banal fruit can be suffused with meaning by the reader, but only the author turns the mundane into the Fruit of Knowledge of Good and Evil. In my post, I already say as much—the banana is not saying anything, in much the same way that the writer is not saying anything; its meaning comes from creative interpretation. This, of course, ignores the glaring issue that "nothing to say" was a pejorative, not literal, but if you are itching to demonstrate your "intelligence" then it can be hard to resist reading very poorly.
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>>34339805
This one does NOT talk. Be prepared to have some one sided conversations if you add.
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>>34317356
>>34321565
>>34330961
Deeply consider self riddance retard child-fuckers ( ´∇`)ノ your lives are undignificant and soulless
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>>34340858
already have done and disregarded. be nice anon u_u
>>34340163
>Then you're trying way too hard to pretend to be smart on an imageboard
i do not see the connection, and it still puzzles me how you recognize the original anon's comment was a sweeping generalization while mantaining that one's output should reflect one's personality traits (i understand you think moreso than its contents) -- sure, maybe a good work ethic and ability of organization, but i assert that is barely the essence of a whole, organic person
>This could also be compared to the kind of pseudointellectual who styles himself on Barthes.
ouch! i'll take that for citing something i'm admittedly not very well read on
>author turns the mundane into the Fruit of Knowledge of Good and Evil
but how does he? i believe this is the very difficult question for which even the most dispersive and seemingly meaningless of pieces play a not particularly valuable fraction into answering; and to be very clear, i do believe there is a definite answer -- this is where my strife lies: my incomplete inner understanding and my distrust in cheap external answers.
anyway, i hope you'll excuse my lack of clarity or unnecessary wordiness... i do not often get to think and discuss like this, and i find what you say to be very curious -- you certainly have developed your idea on the matter more than i did
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>>34341251
also, as an important asides, i do consider social criteria to be 'objective'. saying because i have the impression your idea of objectivity is something mathematically or naturally true
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>ASL
19/f/usa
>About Me
I'm currently in college for CS, in the mid-atlantic area. I really like vocaloid, drawing (or just doing artsy stuff in general), procastinating, hanging out with my friends, diamond painting, playing games like terraria and roblox, etc. I'm east asian and am generally integrated well into my culture somewhat (as in, I'm not some abg and not extremely whitewashed)
>Looking for
Friends, people I can talk to.
>Not Looking for
creeps.
>Discord
voidsofsky
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>>34339805
>Looking for someone who draws the kinda things i do.
What do you draw?
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>>34341251
>>34341333
I apologize for my incorrect insults. I misjudged you. I've cut the following down to two posts for brevity's sake; this is coming close to derailment.

In a sort of Barthesque move, we can separate the discourse on the art (which is art in itself) from the Art. The placing of the banana onto the wall is its own sort of "art," and the discourse around the banana is a separate, related, though undeniably distinct "art." I do believe the critique surrounding such things as bananas on walls can be artful or even genuine art, but it's too easy to conflate the banana with the artist's placing of the banana onto the wall, and the critic's interpretation and discussion on the nature of the banana. A critic can spin a masterful, imaginative myth about the banana, but the banana itself is not saying anything, and whatever the authorial intent, it is too indistinct to be meaningful. In such likes as the Comedia, the banana can safely be called not-Art, because it carries no meaning—whatever meaning it possesses is entirely extrinsic. (Barthes would say: "No!")

In contrast, a work such as pic related or literary art forms are typically "saying something." The meaning may be obscure or relative to the sociocultural norms of a given time and place, as well as the author's own unique language, but so long as the symbols are known, the meaning of the work can be told with great clarity (Barthes would say: "No!"). In this photo, you can tell that it depicts overwhelming grief and death. You may not know all of what is signified, but given the painting without its context, clear meaning can be derived—there is intrinsic meaning to the art. (Yes I know we can get into a discussion about what is or is not meaning, and collapse into nihilism)
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>>34341251
>>34343884
A child without language could feel unsettled looking at it, and recognize the sadness and horror in Ivan the Terrible's eyes. Unless we begin referring to exceptional cases (as I'm sure there are psychopaths and crustaceans that do not share universal human experiences), irrespective of language, the painting itself says something universally recognizable. This suffices to describe art in a very ambiguous manner, but is about the extent to which we can expect to go without collapsing into nihilism (we are both able to recognize that meaning/symbols/emotion/human experience/etc can be questioned and ultimately eliminated and abolished, but we choose not to do so, as we would then be spending a lot of time discussing nothing).

Now to answer the question,
>but how does he?
As you said,
>consciousness itself is a curious product of time, environment and individual perception
As in pic related (from Barthes' WDZ, though this is not the intent of the passage), the author takes from those factors he cannot control, his Nature, and through his particular decision conveys meaning, his ethos, in art. Barthes would hardly declare meaning necessary to the artwork, as the meaning which can be derived from it is infinite. As his later works show, he himself collapses into total artistic solipsism which, though internally consistent, can hardly be deemed constructive.

All of this is to say, who knows what art is? I class art as directly commensurate with free-will or conscious, of those things self-evident yet unproven, and perhaps unprovable. Yet one always finds those grinning smugly and calling consciousness an illusion or some such, not out of earnest belief but intellectual self-pleasure.

Finally, my derision for the writer is only of a certain type of person who no doubt produces art of some degree, but to call it the same as that produced by "the author" would be an overreach. It's really more of an offhand pejorative.
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Is anyone here willing to take requests?
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>>34345122
What's your disc?
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>>34345150
I don't use that service.
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wah
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Honestly been looking for someone to redo my discords pfp, haven't changed it in +3 years
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>>34348508
That might be fun if you're also willing to draw mine.



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