YOU KNOW THE DRILL, ASK THE OTHER GENDER ANYTHING.i'll start. i am a 27 year old disabled femanon and i am eating a liverwurst sandwich. later, i will try salted duck eggs for the first time (the preserved kind). ask me anything.
>>35095588oh oops it was supposed to be ATOGA
whats ur disability if you dont mind me asking
Stop appropriating my cuisine, Yank
>>35095588What kind of vibe do I give? Because some my female customers start acting weird. Also was the liverwurst sandwich good and why are you german and/or eating animals?
>>35095757>Because some my female customers start acting weirdcontext? examples?
>>35095588when did you first realize you were supposed to be penetrated and did you cry then?
>>35095774One thing is a sorta death stare, as if I just really pissed in their cereal and sometimes I get, at least it seems to me, openly hostile comments.One time I was fixing one of our cooling units and remarked on the side that the thing just didnt wanna cooperate and she said "That it must be like all the other women then".I dont get it. I didnt do anything to anyone. I just do my shit and go home. What have I done (to my optics) that suddenly, women feel a need to insult me?
>>35095801There's definitely something you're not telling us. sometimes people are dicks for no reason but if its that common you're definitely doing something wrong and lack the self-reflection to think about it. Think back vividly on one of the scenarios, put yourself in the shoes of one of the people you feel slighted you. Think about your behavior, what you said or didnt say, eye contact, things like that. we're not going to be able to figure that out just with a picture of you when it's human interaction involved
>>35095811For the example scenario: I never saw that women before or after that encounter. When she entered I was half submerged in the cooling unit and shouted a greeting and plea for patience. I then emerged found the customers eyeline, repeated a greeting and slapped the cooling unit and talked about cooperation (cooling units are female in my native language). She then hit me with her barb and I said wow ok. She then gave me a " yes I just said that" look. I gave her an invoice and that it. But I see your point. You can help me just as little as anyone else. Disregard my posts
Something I've been seeking for a while is a digital FWB dynamic with a woman online. Something where we can do all the things I do with online friends--watch shows together, share what we're reading, play games, just chat, etc.--but also some light lewd stuff together.That stuff being things like being able to tell each other when we're horny, go into detail about how we're aroused. We could swap the material we're masturbating to, or describe how we're stroking our private parts. Sexting and things like asking permission to cum would be the upper end of things. Wouldn't really want pic swapping or video calls, as I don't do that with my online friends already.Any-hoo. My problem is that I know some women are up to this, but getting to that is a bit tricky due to how arousal and sexuality presents itself in women. That it isn't really there with just the act itself, rather it depends if they are specifically attracted to their partner.So my question is, there any advice to how I can present this dynamic to women on sites like this, knowing that they won't necessarily be horny enough passively to find it appealing from the outset. How do I make my intentions clear so they know what I'm looking for, while still leaving room to find compatibility and such first. So far I've found it hard to do so without just sounding like a shallow gooner that's looking for a jerkmate, and I don't know how to change that without feeling like I'm getting too close to just leading people on instead.
>>35095900Literally just post exactly what you posted here in a contact thread
>>35095900You don't want to be perceived as a shallow gooner looking for a jerkmate, but you opend with saying you want a FWB. To be quite frank with you anon, dynamics like that happen naturally if the vibe is right. Coming out and asking for it in the way you're doing it does make you look like you wouldn't pass the vibe check but hey who knows
>>35095956I don't see that as something happening naturally whre the woman would just want it to be casual/only FWBs. He has to be upfront with that otherwise it will just seem like the beginning of a relationship
>>35095757it's good. I have it with lettuce, swiss, mayo and dijon mustard>>35095775this hasn't happened>>35095900thinking it presents differently is your first mistake. we experience it just like you do it's just that we're more inclined to deal with it ourselves rather than thrust it upon the first soul we can find. i think if you don't want to appear shallow you'll want to pay attention to detail and be methodical about things. show that you put in or are willing to put in effort. succinctly describe what you're looking for but without being crass. that sort of thing. there's a surplus of men like you though, so, i dunno. i operate friendship first before horny.>>35095956yeah ok this person nailed it disregard what i said>>35095976the rest of us don't think this way
>>35095775actually to circle back to this i found my clitoris quotes early as an autistic young woman and later found that i had vaginismus so penetration never really meant a damn to me. i mean i literally didn't even consider it until my late teens and i very quickly decided i wasn't fond of it the way others were
>>35095996>the rest of us don't think this wayMaybe, but i'd rather a guy like that be upfront about his intentions so I know to avoid him rather than dupe some girl into a "situationship" when it could've been avoided.
>>35095956To be honest, you aren't saying much. The first part amounts to you saying that you think FWB and shallow gooner jerkmates are the same thing, which people would (and already did by asserting otherwise) disagree with. You didn't really do much to actually argue your point. The second isn't really useful at all, since it's just saying you don't think it's possible to look for actively, which again would be disagreed with and you didn't really argue that point eitherAnd the last is like, yeah, that's the point of the question. How to actually ask for it the right way. It's already known that just asking is too blunt and off-putting.
>>35095996>we experience the same way you do, it's just that we're more inclined to deal with it ourselvesWhich means that you don't experience it the way men do.>Operate friendship first before hornyNot disclosing horny goals is leading people on and a betrayal of those just looking for friendship only.
>>35096014Consider this. Look at the context of where you are asking that. Asking for that on this board will immediately paint you as a gooner. It is actually very easy to actively look for because all you have to do is make you intentions clear with flirting. With dating apps you can just outright state you want FWB or one night stands, but that's because you have the virtue of a picture for people to immediately know if they're physically interested in you or not. On here you're just a nameless, faceless anon who wants sexual play, but that's literally every man on this board. I'm speaking from experience with the girls on here, every single one I've messed around with, it just happened naturally.
>>35096021you guys choosing to operate differently because society enables you to do so is not experiencing the actual feelings differently lol>>35096012oh for sure>>35096021and like i just agreed with them, yeah i wouldn't avoid disclosing it but i think it's easier to get freaky with people and have a good time if you have some actual chemistry to cling to first. id be more inclined towards fwb with a pal than a stranger. hence the f part of fwb. familiarity is nice. it's also way to easier to have the "i don't really want to date i would rather just explore bodies" talk with someone you know.
>>35096028yeah you knocked it out of the park again really. i think overwhelmingly if you have no charisma and can't get chemistry going with other people you may be screwed.
>>35096028I see. Although, not really much to do with it on my end. You seem already thoroughly convinced of several preconceived notions, and I can't do anything to assuage you, as it's not really based on my words, or outright assuming they're deceitful. After all, you're already disregarding that I put actual value on the friend part, and have strong assumptions as to why I'd be looking for such things here. Like you don't even entertain the fact that I prefer to be friends with people on 4chan, you just think I only want sex only and swung out fugly style on dating apps. I have a lot of friends from 4chan, and have even gone overseas to the UK with some of them.I see what your logic is, and I appreciate your viewpoint, but I'm looking for words from women that are open to such things but otherwise are looking for it to be on the up and up. You cannot be, and I personally can't be convinced that the women here are monolithic and absolutely none could be, so we don't have much further to talk about.>>35096037>You guys choosing to operate differently because society enabled you to do soWe are done talking. I am looking for discussion, not to be talked at by people who won't give my words the bare consideration. It's disrespectful and borderline masturbatory.
>>35096121Never said you only wanted sex. I'm just telling you that what you're doing is like walking into a speed dating event and then saying you want friends with benefits but then wanting people to give you the benefit of the doubt in your intentions being more than a gooner. Nobody here knows you dude. Like you sound like a decent guy, but nobody knows anything about you other than you want friends with benefits. You're also talking about me treating all women as a monolithic entity, no, I'm just speaking pragmatically. Brains compartmentalize, it's just a naturally occurring bias. If x group always behaves a certain way, and someone exhibits that behavior, you'll lump them into x group because you have no other reason not to. You can take the advice, or not, doesn't really matter to me. If you truly cared about the friends part then just say you're looking for friends in the SFW thread and "open to whatever happens". All I'm saying is that specifically asking for anything sexual will just label you a gooner because of the environment you're asking for it in. In my opinion that doesn't seem that hard to understand, but it is what it is.
>>35096194this guy rocks>>35096037well i actually wasn't talking to you unless you changed ids but we are both speaking generally about men and women and how they "experience" sex and horniness. i told you we do not experience them differently. choosing to approach something in a different way by majority does not mean the experience or base feeling itself is different. sorry that upsets you so much. i think you just don't like hearing it how it is based on how you're replying to others as well
>>35096121woops meant to reply to this sorry buddy
>>35096194You did boil down what I was looking for, or rather what I was, as just "a faceless anon who wants sexual play," so if that wasnt your intent then I just ask you pick your words with more carefully. As for the monolithic comment, we'll just have to disagree. Naturally occuring bias within one's self is something to address, not to indulge and call it pragmatic.As for the benefit of the doubt, it is not that much of an ask that your words are listened to. You can't make connections if you refuse to put even the common level of trust or at least fairness in other people. Maybe I have a higher tolerance due to, again, accruing a sizeable number of friends from across 4chan, so I've already shouldered a lot of sifting through weirdos and perverts and still keep looking, but still.As for the speed dating comment, that just varies on how you view this board. It's just a place where anons want to get to know each other, and can take many forms. There are threads for romance, friends, jerkmates, and so much more. It's the thread specifically that should dictate expectations.Lastly, as for just generally looking for friends and only keeping an eye open for FWB, I have two disagreements there1) I don't agree with this dichotomy you're kinda pushing. That if you don't just focus on friendship and let FWB fall into your lap, then you don't necessarily 'truly care' for friendship. Looking for a combination of both from the outset should be respected if it's done open, honestly, patiently, and with good communication and respected consent.2) Even if it's just keeping an eye out for the vibe, that's kinda grody dude. Like when you say "open to whatever happens" I hear "sexpest waiting for his chance" and get the major creeps from you. Like sure, that's a preconceived notion on my part, and I can look past it, but just, ick. Again, we just wouldn't be able to reach common ground, and I can respect that, but also hell nah.
