>>140301807
I guess Rugby is more violent and physical. Plus it has slower pace, due to all those pauses. Football is simply more lighthearted. As a fan you can relate to a football player way more because you most certainly had easier time playing footy in childhood than rugby. Then, association of very strong, ugly-bodied and unadulterated men like rugby players is turn-off.

Rugby destroys your body

>>140302127
So does football tbf. Any top level sport ruins the body.

Soccer was spread by labourers: miners, sailors, servicemen, traders, etc. Rugby was spread by educated middle class peeps.

>>140302060
>Plus it has slower pace, due to all those pauses
They are not that many, i am talking about rugby unión here, but there Is More pauses than football
>>140302127
Have you talked to any guy that played at a good level there knees are always fucked and tibias breaking are common

>>140302213
From what i knew both were spread by english college students

>>140301807
5 ft 2 favela kids can't play rugby, they'd die

>>140302060
Can play football anywhere on any surface and use anything for goal posts. Rugby need to play on grass, need posts, need specific players, also very physical and prone to injuries. Basically johnny foreigners are soft as shite

>>140302551
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRaTsrmzhPI

just be a genetic freak: the sport

>>140302792
Look up beaudan Barret highlights

>>140302731
>Can play football anywhere on any surface and use anything for goal posts

This

>>140302792
thats basketball tho

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my ancestor :)

>>140302731
>Rugby need to play on grass
Not really not here atleast
>need posts
Valid but its not that hard to do
>need specific players, also very physical and prone to injuries
Same as football i think its more of a perception in this case

>>140301807
You have to be a subhuman in order to enjoy rugby or basketball
That's why basketball and rugby is so popular in USA

>>140305045
Either masterfull bait or trully ignorant
Anyways funny

rugby is for rich kids in almost every country its played in

>>140301807
Less skill involved in rugby and shittier scoring system, we have a butchered league here that gets an average of 15 viewers per game, also have a butchered soccer league that gets 6 average viewers per game with no relegation or promotion

>>140301807
why is he screaming like that

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>>140305158
Apparently we're quite successful at being subhumans picrel
Don't know anyone who cares about rugby here
I could probably watch a basketball match but rugby it's truly a grug tier sport
So yeah a sport enjoyed by subhumans mostly

>>140302287
when people hear rugby, they think of American Rules Rugby Football, not Rugby Union

>>140305462
quarterbacks are more intelligent and more skilled than any soccer positions, you dumb retard

>>140305462
>skill involved in rugby
Lmao

>>140306939
read this retard >>140306844

>>140306792
what? no? I'm a Canadian in the West and literally no one associates rugby with gridiron football, certainly no american does,

>>140307623
are you denying that canadian football and american football are the truest and superior codes of rugby football?

>>140306983
:)
>>140305045

>>140305396
Don't be a retard

>>140307849
Rugby is not football
American football Is not a type of rugby

>>140306792
I don't have the stats but surely the rugby world cup is more view than the superbowl

>>140302213
>Soccer was spread by labourers: miners, sailors, servicemen, traders, etc. Rugby was spread by educated middle class peeps.
this is actually a bit of a myth. the first international matches for both sports were organized between universities and the upper class. despite what people think rugby was not wholly an upperclass sport and neither was soccer. rugby's popularity among the working class developed an entirely separate code to the sport, rugby league, which had an identical rules system to union for the first fifty years of its existence, the only difference was the players were compensated for their time off work. one of the oldest 'football' clubs in England is Blackheath FC, a rugby union club that was traditionally working class.

>>140308507
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_football

American football is rugby football, you sudaca

>>140308507
>Rugby is not football
its literally called 'Rugby Union Football' you fucking retard. People just call it Rugby for short to avoid confusing roundball faggots who don't know there's more than one code of football.

>>140308620
>there's more than one code of football.
there is only one code of football and it's called NFL

>>140308620
>>140308614
You guys want to call it football so bad
Rugby is rugby, aussie football Is know as aussie football, American football Is know as American football, rugby Is know as rugby

>>140308791
rugby is called football because you carry the ball with hands till the end and you kick at the ball toward the goal afterwards

>>140308791
there are two codes of rugby, fuck nuts, and both have 'football' in their name. that's just a fact.

I don't care what you roundball faggots do or don't do in the privacy of your shithole countries, but a fact of the English language remains a fact no matter how you feel about it.

>>140308857
Good for you for defending your big daddys language, i have never once heard anyone call rugby football, do people always say your last name when talking to you? Retard

because football is the most well balanced and complex sport. You can just look at the enormous diversity of styles and types of players. Physicality and athleticism are important components and will give you an advantage, but it is not the be-all and end-all aspect of the sport. Skill, vision, intelligence, positioning etc are also important and can even make up for lack of athleticism.
In rugby, if you see a very big, strong and athletic guy you already know he is good at the sport, with football there is absolutely no way of telling if someone is good at it just by looking at them. A fucking rhino would be the greatest rugby player of all time

>>140309144
this is a good case of speaking ignorance with authority. on average rugby players and soccer players are the same height, but there are shorter short rugby players depending on the position they play compared to soccer.

you can't make a good rugby team with nothing but forwards (the big 'rhinos' you're referring to) and its rare for forwards to either score tries or kick drop goals. its often the scrum half, usually one of the shorter players on the field, that often dictates both the playstyle and scoring ability of the team.

I like how Polynesians are the rugby version of ngubus. Big fuckoff south africans are the hardcounter though

>>140309236
>athleticism and physicality = height
I did not mention height a single time in my post. The greatest american football player of all time, Tom Brady, is fairly tall but not athletic at all. That is because even in that sport, there is one position, namely the quarterback, where the other things such as skill and vision that I mentioned can make up for lack of physicality.
Obviously skill and etc. is also going to exist in rugby, especially at the high level, but it is nowhere near as important as in football (as in soccer).
If I showed up to a random field with a bunch of guys I don't know to play rugby and had to pick my team, I would absolutely go for the strongest most athletic looking ones, and so would you or anyone else. For a football match there would be no reason at all to do that, most random strong guys are not even able to control a ball or make a simple pass. But they are able to grab a ball with their hands and run forward

>>140309626
>but it is nowhere near as important as in football (as in soccer).
again, you don't know what you're talking about

I suggest watching a bit more football (rugby) and clean the taste of soccer cum out of your mouth

>>140309680
ok, I can see you ran out of arguments.
No, I will not double the audience of rugby by watching it, when I have plenty of football to watch.
Lastly, I suggest looking up the words "foot" and "ball" on a dictionary :)

>>140302287
>>140302192
I'm not talking top level but regular/ amateur players. I know people who played rugby and they had awful injuries There was a kid who i went to classes with and he told me he had knee problem and the Doctor immediately thought he played rugby, apparently it was a common thing with them.

Rugby is boring as fuck. Every game is a repetitive grind.

>>140301807
because rugby is fucking boring both to play and watch while footy is excels at both

>>140309717
>No, I will not double the audience of rugby by watching it, when I have plenty of football to watch.
keep watching your fag fucking code, I don't give a shit. I'm not interested in getting more people to watch rugby, least of all people from a country that lost two world wars. it'd just be another thing for you guys to lose at, and Germany takes enough Ls.
>Lastly, I suggest looking up the words "foot" and "ball" on a dictionary
I'm not into german fetish shit, you can keep that shit to yourself too.

>>140310272
> "I suggest watching a bit more football (rugby)"
>"I'm not interested in getting more people to watch rugby"
Are you a woman? Make up your mind. Also stop watching so much porn, you are bringing it up out of nowhere, it has infected your mind.

>>140301807
Rugby is a middle class sport, football is played in parks by kids who nicked a ball from aports direct

>>140310305
>Are you a woman?
You tell me, you talk a lot about things you know nothing about, that's pretty fucking womanly to me. you also like soccer, so that makes you either a wog, a fag or a lady.

me telling you to educate yourself on something you seem to talk about (but don't know shit about) isn't the same thing as me wanting you to actually follow a decent team sport.

>>140310528
I explained why football is more popular than rugby, which you can't do without sounding extremely resentful and mad. But I guess intelligence is not a quality appreciated (or possessed) by followers of rugby. Stop trying to argue about skill and just go back to the old "football players are sissies, rugby players are tough" argument, as you've done in the other thread.

>>140302192
Kinda true. Headers over a long period time are dangerous to players and I'm actually surprised I haven't seen more medical research published on modern day players who head the ball often (probably FIFjews/JewEFA shutting it down). Varane literally said the other day that he experienced fatigue after heading the ball in a training session. Scary shit.

>>140309950
>>140310240
I feel like you just described football to me. kek. I used to watch football all the time. I just can't anymore. The pacing, the antics. I only watch some CL games now. I am a fairly casual Rugby viewer (six nations, world cup) and i think as long as its a competitive close scoring game it's super exciting. One sided schloppings are boring regardless of what sport you're watching. As a neutral viewer ofcourse.

>>140308664
kek

>>140311055
I've seen the rugby world cup. Rugby is just a grind and they kick penalties more than trying to score. It's even less competitive than soccer too, only 5 countries are good and every game is a blowout when they face other countries. Tournaments are just the same matchup every year
Handegg mogs it hard in terms of enjoyment

>>140310326
This, my exposure to rugby was entirely through grammar school, before that I only played football in the park.

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>>140311272
>It's even less competitive than soccer too, only 5 countries are good
Despite running for nearly 100 years this is the sum total of countries to win the 'football' world cup

considering the rugby world cup has been running for less than half the same time (37 years), statistically it actually is more competitive than soccer.

>>140311707
that's disingenuous though. Football is wildly more popular and played in many countries. Only a few countries play rugby at a high level. And many countries don't even play Rugby at all.

Rugbychads bullied me at school that's why I prefer Aussie rules and soccer

>>140311769
Nice falseflag nrlsperg

>>140308583
Your account fails to mention that football has a much deeper historical resonance with working class / peasant culture.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_football

Is probably just accessibility. When trying to spread a sport, the easier it is to play, the better.
Football can be played pretty much anywhere if you have a ball.
Football doesn't need too many people to be fun. Some people even have fun just bouncing the ball against a wall by themselves. Even 2v2 football is something you can easily play with some very minor modifications to the game.
Rugby probably needs you to assemble a bit more people to play, which makes it harder to play spontaneously.
That makes a whole lot of a difference, specially when you're a sailor that just got off his ship trying to convince people to learn to play your new game.
"Hey, dude. Have you played football? No? Let's go to the park/street/whatever and have a kick about. Yeah, more people would be cool, but you and me can play." it's a lot easier than "Hey, dude. Have you played Rugby? No? Let's go looking for a field with some post things, ok? We also need like, at least 6 more guys for this to be any fun at all."

That surely made the difference early on and from then on it snowballed.

>>140311756
>that's disingenuous though.
a midwit word making a midwit argument

if you have a hundred teams but only ten are competitive, there's little difference and if anything makes the football world cup look even worse for skill disparity between top teams and the rest.

>>140301807
Football is way more simple. Every time I watch a Rugby match I learn a new rule

>>140311991
comparing association football to folk football is ridiculous. folk football had more in common with aussie rules compared to association football, where catching kicks by hand was allowed in most places and instead of a net there was a general goal area with no goal keeper, that kicking close enough to got you a point and allowed a second kick for a goal, similar to a try + conversion in rugby. it also allowed tackling, from trips to full on grabbing the other guy and dragging them to the ground.

>>140312055
Anyone can play football, too. If someone tells me hey wanna play rugby I'll probably be disuaded because I'm short and light. No point in smashing against dudes twice my size, even if I liked it I wouldn't add much to the game. In football you see giants and manlets in the same team winning shit together.

Football is marketable. That's it. It's easy to sell and the top players get sold as products to big markets round the world through sponsorship details and media appearances. Anyone can do it. Anyone can play it. You can play it in the street or in the staircase of a block of flats or inside a gym. It's easy and accessible and people can relate to it

Rugby didn't care about any of that. For League, it was fine that only people in the shit parts of Australia and the shit parts of England enjoyed it. For Union, they were more than happy to play out of the same clubs and the same fixtures as they had done for a century. Only certain races and nationalities are cut out for it

>>140312119
>In football you see giants and manlets in the same team winning shit together.
the shortest professional rugby players are sub 5'7/170cm

>>140310326
Has this ever really been true, though? I get it might be in the Guardian comments section (which is just full of self hating rich people who desperately want to be poor for some reason) but there's rugby clubs all over the country. A Welsh steel worker turning out for his club on a weekend isn't "middle class", is he? It might be played by the middle classes but so is football. Even if you exclude League and the misery that is the M62 corridor, England and Wales is basically going to have no real income difference between those showing up to watch football and those who watch rugby

The underclass, however, seems to only like football

>>140312057
fucking retard kek. There are plenty of countries that have never won anything on world level. But it doesn't mean the only good players come from countries that have won something. Plenty of high level football players from smaller countries that do not compete for the prize have been considered one of the best at their position at some point. You'll be hard pressed to find top quality rugby players in what can be considered non rugby playing countries. I mean how many countries even play at a high level rugby? France, UK, Ireland, South Africa, Argentinia, Australia, NZ, Japan and some small Islands like Fiji and Tsonga. There are only like four professional rugby competitions period. Top 14, super rugby, premiership, URC.

>>140312167
Welsh is a weird one. Like New Zealand Rugby was originally considered a working class game there. Not too disimilar to Ireland, where there's no major demographic barrier for who plays and watches it. (Scotland too used to favour Rugby over soccer for a time. Ironically it was 'soccer' that was broadly seen as the overly English game by the rest of the UK, despite the Rugby School origins of the other football codes)

>>140312229
There isn't really one in England either, it's just that rich people enjoy watching it. This makes people who live in Islington extremely angry, as they went to the same schools as these people. But they didn't play rugby because they were marching against apartheid or nuclear weapons or whatever and smelled weird and people didn't like their asthma wheezing at the back of the classroom

The entire "class divide" in England is upper middle class people pretending to be poor to score brownie points and LARP as illiterate serfs for various nefarious reasons. They hate everything they were brought up within (take the most vocal opponents of hunting and fee paying schools, for example) and only succeed in convincing other self hating wealthy people that they are "down to earth". Personally, I'd like to put them all in an industrial oven

>>140312271
There needs to be a better term for them. Managerial class. Ocado class. Because seeing them in economic terms really plays into their worldview. Every problem in this country comes down to this group of people

To anyone that has said that rugby Is only a big jacked guy sport or genetic freaks, or that rugby has no skills or technique involved
please watch beaudan Barret

>>140301807
probably same as basketball, you need to be a genetic freak to go pro on it, so not many people felt they could have a future in the sport

>>140308614
And is nothing like either football or rugby, call it whatever the fuck you want, it won't make it so, Kevin.

>>140312055
>Football can be played pretty much anywhere if you have a ball.
An empty plastic bottle will do the trick too, add a couple of rocks for the goal and you got yourself a game.

>>140312838
how many like him though?

>>140313760
What that has to do with anything, he Is goated

>>140301807
Football is simpler and more fun

>>140308664
>football
played by hand with an egg. Murican moment.

>>140313070
>you need to be a genetic freak
Fake

really fucking wish football had the same referee treatment as rugby
you're complaining? sent off, no discussion