Chicago's proposed $4.6 billion stadium.
exterior pic
>>140338396>>140338410Forgettable team deserves a forgettable stadium
certainly of the stadiums of all time
>$4.6BJerryworld was unconscionably expensive at $1B fifteen years ago
>Biggest criticism is it looks like a space ship>Make better space shipVoted America's Best City
>>140338540It's Chicago, everyone's got to get their cut and their dead relatives' cuts too
>>140338396all paid by the franchise, of course?
>>140338540Kroenke built 2 stadiums with worse land+labor costs in both cases in the last decade and still (hypothetical) money left over.This is classic Chicago Graft. The Chicago Way.
>>140338540>>140338577>>140338624Keep in mind, the cost also involves turning the surrounding campus into parks, venues for concerts and festivals, and increased public transportation accessibility
>>140338801He did it in LA and London though
>>140338801No wonder these fuckheads keep getting away with itPeople like you are the perfect voters
>>140338871Sounds like someone is on the Arlington Heights city council.
>>140338396It just looks like a giant shopping mall with stands. I dislike modern american stadiums very much. Pic related is a real stadium.
>>140338871There's been several successful examples of this. Atlanta Braves would be an example. Just because some of the stadium plans end up being a terrible idea doesn't mean they all. Not saying this one is good or bad, but Chicago is the third largest city, they can find plenty of use for a stadium.
>>140338396>Coors light: $38.99 + tax & tip
>>140339102its a shit stadium alsoSame with the Rose Bowl.
STADIUM
ARCADIUM
>>140339157>It's ok when billionaires and multi-billion dollar organizations fleece us because we get an outdoor mall & apartments where we can spend even more of our moneyDo anons really
>>140339184At least it looks nice.
>>140338396>>140338410>CHICAGO FOOTBALL TEAM PLAYING AT STADIUM
>>140339281The outdoor malls lead to tax revenue. And apartments are obviously important to have. It also leads to more events in the city, which is another benefit.
>>140339361>Cheerleads for billionaires>For freeGo back to /n/
>>140338396>raise taxes to build the stadium>buy a license for the right to buy a seat>pay media conglomerate to watch at home>everyone getting obscenely wealthy but you>brought to you by espn bet
>>140339102>Pic related is a real stadiumUntil you actually went to a game in that stadium, the experience wasn't good
>>140339361You know what else leads to tax revenue: Leaving your ethnic neighborhood and trying something different. Chicago's got a lot of problems that 4 billion dollars could help with, where Da Bears play shouldn't be so high in a city that is only not considered the worst at every thing because Midwesterners aren't self-critical like Coasties are.
>another unsurprising plastic soulless messThe gap between the Packers as thee SOUL of the league and everyone else is beyond astronomical at this point
>>140339448Truly sports cattle
>>140338396I hate it cause it isnt outdoors. I dont like the idea of the Bears playing indoors at home.
>>140339559socialism in action (or would be if the fan owners had actual voting rights instead of mickey mouse shares)
Is this downtown or out in Arlington Heights
>>140339184>>140339508>NOOOOOOOO I need heated seats, a DJ, a mixologist, and a half mile jumbotron at my stadium NOOOOOOPic related is the preiment SOUL stadium in the world in terms of history, magnitude of events hosted, scenery, tradition, etc. Get fucking filtered sports cattle consooomers
>>140339756Are those football players or ants?
>>140339715It's funny how they tell themselves they're not plastics like every other team's fans and buy "shares" in something that gives them no voting rights, and they can't even resell them - but they do get access to exclusive merchandise lol
>>140339715uhh we do have voting rights. Every July I get a ballot to elect the board of directors
>>140339808Coping plastic detected. We get voting rights. We get 4 free tickets per year to the owners meeting FOR LIFE. Family members gift eachother shares at a measily $200 for this lifetime privelege, which also ensures the team never moves or falls into jew hands. You? Spend $2000 per year on jerseys, tickets, food etc - all straight to the pocket of Mr. Rothstein
>>140338540And people still claim there isn't inflation and that money is real
>>140339157>>140339361"Success" is extremely relative. It's popular and the money isn’t subject to revenue sharing for the team but in civic terms it just redirects spending rather than adding anything new for tax benefits. This has been studied to death but useful idiot voters like you still parrot the same lines.
Imagine how many migrants they could house and feed with that money instead.
>>140340759The studies just say that the direct tax return for business created by sports games isn't a gain for the city. That is true. However, if you use the stadium as an anchor for future development. This happened with the Braves stadium. It happened with an MiLB stadium in my hometown. In the case of Chicago, they're tying it to improving parks and public transportation. Will it work out? Maybe, maybe not, I'm just against the idea that every single stadium is a bad investment. Regarding Chicago, having a 60k domed stadium to host concerts at isn't a bad thing. Having a nice event 60k hall isn't a bad thing for a city with an urban population of 8.6M. It'll cost city of Chicago taxpayers $300 per person, so its pretty much a drop in the bucket.
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>>140340959>It'll cost city of Chicago taxpayers $300 per person, so its pretty much a drop in the bucket.t. I don't live there and don't have to pay, but they will want to because I would.
>>140340959Future development would have happened otherwise without needing public money. The Battery just steals business from the surrounding areas to the enrichment of the Braves.
another soulless corpodome
>>140339871>We get voting rights. That mean nothing>We get 4 free tickets per year to the owners meetingjfc>You? Spend $2000 per year on jerseys, tickets, food etc - all straight to the pocket of Mr. RothsteinI don't watch the NFL
>>140340959He's cheerleading for billionaires and corporations>For free>Again
>>140338396>when a "feature" of a stadium is a view of the city that is available for free
>>140339756>world cup final won't be at the roseb owlDisgrace
>>140339715Theu do have voting rights lol
>>140339742They're aiming for a downtown stadium
>>140338410Is that a Bavarian Xmas market in foreground, or a homeless camp ?
Question: so is the taxpayer paying for this shit? Because if a bunch of billionaires wanna spend their money i have no problem with it. But begging billionaires i have no interest in.
>>140338801society and people got so boring they had to ruin sports stadiums and turn them into designated recreation zones. why can't /mu/ /n/ and /soc/ draw their own dimes when theyre /out/?
>>140354939The team owners have said they'll pay for half of it; they're hoping for public funding for the other half.
>>140355053its america anon, this is just how we arecant corrode a spirit if the nation is wholly bereft of one to begin with
The Bears are willing to pay 2 bill for the 4.6 bill stadium.Welcome to the Utah Bears I guess.
>4.6billionWho pays for it?
>>140355659Bears are saying they'll do about 2B, the rest from the city/taxpayers. Stadium would be publicly owned though.
>>140338396>>140338410>Almost 5B just to build another version of allegient stadiumWe are entering a very shitty era of stadiums.
>>140338396Say what you want about Ballmer but at least he is privately funding all $2 billion for the new Clippers stadium.
Honestly, I'm more interested in the new use of the campus than the stadium
>>140339814Can you write anyone in? Who decides who is up for election? Can a fan run?
A team located in the northern US building a dome stadium is the most cucked thing ever. You are getting rid of massive home field advantage just to please some soft VIP fans and to maybe get a super bowl in your city. So fucking pathetic.
>>140359363As you should be, that's where 'free' events for the public will take place
>>140338396>$4.6 billion just to copy what the Falcons built
>>140339102The original version of this stadium was similar
>>140339102I agree it's more soulful
>>140338410idk, I kind of like it. And I'm usually a Shitcago hater in general.
>>140339800They are worse than ants. They are, may the Prophet (peace be upon Him) forgive me, buckeyes.
>>140338410>Christmas market on the left>Nazi architecture on the right
>>140359746....basado
>>140359746Right in the heart of new germania as well. Bidens gonna freak
>>140339871basedgo pack go
Pic related is my favorite>>140359746Greeks were nazis?
>>140338396>>140338410>another ugly spaceship domegrim
>>140341208based
>>140359746>Opening day>Hitler bobbleheads and Reichsadler pins for everyoneI would attend.
>>140360063What un ugly piece of shit.
>>140359470Events will be free, but the good thing is that it will allow for popups, events, festivals, ets. All that will require permits.
>>140338396Lambeau South looks pretty dope
how much is funded by the tax payer?
>>140360565120%, they will find a way to tax the taxes
>>140359516>>140339102Stadiums need more Columns
>>140360385tasteless
>>140339742It's literally 100 feet away from where Soldier Field is right now except they're gonna plant some tree's around the new dome.Win at football and quit worrying about this nonsense. No one feels safe in the city anyway. Woke stadium to appease the loons.
>>140360662>t. Life time Chicago resident of Naperville.
>>140338410Yup that's a stadium
>>140360719I wish
>>140360662you speak like an esl retard
>>140360619College stadiums are beautiful compared to pro venues. Pic related is one of the worst looking buildings I've seen in my life. The scaffolding stadium. To think they went from the iconic Candlestick park to that montruousity. Same thing with the Red Wings leaving the Joe Louis arena for the whatever pizza generic arena. Of course some us flag will tell me that they were bad sports venues but my god they looked amazing on tv when Iwas a kid.
>>140360662>planting trees is woke
Kek they're really gonna get us on the hook for this and the retard sox wanting a new stadium too.
>>140360768Naw, you're right. Majority of pro stadiums are garbage. The only exception is Baseball stadiums
>>140360785Didn't the city and state already say they wouldn't fund a sox stadium?
The only way they're gonna increase fans and revenue is by moving to Arlington Heights. The city of Chicago is losing people every year. Everything they have in Chicago they have in the suburbs with far less danger.
>>140360865I live in the burbs next to AH and no one here actually wants it. The amount of work they would need to do to the surrounding area to be able to build it would be a nightmare
>>140360784You can go hold hands with your wife in the new green tree space during a December blizzard lmao
>>140360830Nothing set. I think they want 1 billion while paying a similar amount themselves.
>>140360890Then you'll have to move little shit punk.This train ain't stopping for you.
>>140360940Oh no. We'll lose a team that only gets 1000 visitors per game and has an owner that would trade a star player for a ham sandwich if it meant he could save money. Whatever will we do?
>>140360940>Then they'll moveNo one cares. Everyone in Chicago hates Jerry for ruining two teams with his cheap ass ways.
>>140338410UH, EXCUSE ME?!?WHERE WILL I PARK MY FORD F-350 AND BARBECUE????
>>140338396Parking and traffic would still be a nightmare. Plus increasing crime. It will never happen. Kevin Warren knows nothing about how Chicago politics work. State legislator folks including democrats are already throwing water on it saying it's not a priority.
>>140361005What does Jerry have to do with the Bears. Go sit at the kids table.
>>140360596fantastic! while we're at it, let's send another 100 Billion to Ukraine/Isreal.
>>140338396American prices are insane, that's at least double what it should cost to build a big stadium and infrastructure
>>140361374It's also including the demolition of the old stadium and the building of a new park/recreation area on that site.
>>140361031I heard they might put a cab stand at the new stadium too.
>>140361049>State legislator folksshut the fuck up
>>140361374it would cost more to build on your island
>>140361374One party cities where everything is built with corrupt union construction. There is no pushback toward bringing construction prices down.
$4 billion is nothing in today's economy, especially not in the US where your average contractor has a $200/h rate. N*ggerlands parliament renovation is going over budget by $2 billion already.
>>140361712>where your average contractor has a $200/h rate.That is nowhere near the average
>>140361712>$200/h rateThat's not even close to true
Kevin Warren had no clue what he was walking into...that's an issue. No one briefed him on who's in control downstate. It's a differen't pay to play.
At least all the new green space and trees will offer greater synergy with the nearby museums which all Bears fans care about. "Tough loss guys, wanna go check out some fossils".
Why do they have to hang this bullshit shadow of a new stadium in limbo when the draft is tonight?
>>140362181nobody cares about the draft anymore
>>140362042>Tough loss guys, wanna go check out some fossilsYou'd be shocked how often this actually happens
>>140360768Joe Louis should've stayed but the main argument is always "BUT WHAT ABOUT THE BOXES???" like some regular schmoe is gonna be able to afford a box experience. It sucks ass.
>>140362342boxes matter for the owners since its a major revenue generator for them.
>>140338410I think the idea if you could somehow make a sports stadium into this giant beautiful garden that somehow morphs into where you enter this lovely arena for gladiators, something romantic about notion. That is what I am getting off of this so I actually think this stadium is overall quite cool. If they are making a Christmas Market nearby it, it is even better in my mind.Not every stadium just needs to be this smogfilled shitfestival of people barbequing in a dystopia and sitting in their RV watching TV, it can be something that enhances the beauty of the city of Chicago.Sorry TL:DR I think the stadium design has a lot of good ideas and I like it.
>>140339102funnily enough the reason all these new stadiums are being built is that they all want a “stadium district” that basically acts as a big open area shopping mall with shops and restaurants around the “main attraction” stadium
>>140362388and then you end up with Metlife stadium where the entire stadium is a piece of shit with less personality than a piece of toast
>>140338396Maybe you should invest that money in the community and get guns off the street instead of bread and circus for white folk from north chicago
>>140362388My city had a new stadium build about 20 years ago and it took until 2020 for anything to be build around it and even today it's just a place where you have a big cinema and soulless luxury condos nobody really wants to live in.
>>140362604>Invest in the city and not into a stadium>Ok, let's put this money towards schools and medical facilities>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! THAT'S SOCIALISM!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>140362604California spent $24 billion for the homeless and have nothing to show for it.
>>140338410What's with the gigantic staircase?
>>140338410Goated. This the future
>>140362809Underneath is where they hide the illegal immigrants.
>>140362831They should call this the Obama Center in honor of one of our best presidents.
Every proposal starts like this >>140338396 and ends like this >>140339102
>>140338396Where's the fans parking and tailgating? In Arlington Heights?
>>140362880The friendly residents will take care of your car, don't worry about it.
>>140362769>>140362803Guns are illegal in Chicago and theres plenty of videos of guys with glocks and Dracos, they don't even conceal their faces. Maybe start by policing the streets?
>>140338396As long as the Mcaskey family pays for the whole thing, I'm all for it.
>Irreversibly ruin Soldier Field forever only to move out a few years laterKill everyone in Hallas Hall and throw Virginia into a volcano
>>140360662>Woke stadiumNigger what the FUCK are you talking about anymore?
>>140362934>Guns are illegal in Chicagonot true. Every American is allowed to own a gun except felons. Even illegal immigrants. It's in the constitution.
>>140338410I couldn't come with something this tacky if I tried.
>>140338396thta's not a very good stadium. the rows need to closer to the field and rows more upright so the view is better. like many modern premier league stadiums. you want spectators to sit few feet away from the pitch for the best atmopshere
>>140362604you mean those guns smuggled in from indiana who have very unregulated gun laws?
>>140338396>STADIUMThank god, I was almost confused as to what this was supposed to be.
Nobody wants the bears on the lake in Chicago. It's widely known that most of the front office wants out of the city. The one guy who wants the city is Kevin Warren. Warren's lack of knowledge on the city, the park district, and the game day issues of the lake front are showing.He's been a bad hire period. Slow and unaware...just a dismal failure.
The Mcaskeys would play in a graveyard if it was fully taxpayer funded.
>>140364650>smuggled in from indianaI love it when foreigners "know" America
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>>140362388>funnily enough the reason all these new stadiums are being built is that they all want a “stadium district” that basically acts as a big open area shopping mall with shops and restaurants around the “main attraction” stadiumIt makes me wonder how these pro teams will up the ante for the next round of stadiums in 15-20 years. They won't be satisfied by just having stadium districts in the future.
>>140365125>Ackshully here's a jpg that totally proves my pointStick to Australia mate
>>140365176It's a PNGSource: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/11/12/us/gun-traffickers-smuggling-state-gun-laws.html
>>140365231>nytimes.comStick to Australia mate
Chicago is now a toilet with shootings all the time. Plus overpriced parking, ridiculous traffic, and overpriced average food.
>>140365290Sorry, I'll look for a source on Bitchute uploaded by MAGAPatriot2AWarrior1488, it seems it would be more to your suiting.
>>140365326This is what I mean. You have no idea how things work hereStick to Australia
>>140365326Kek. Owned. >>140365398Take a knee bruh.
>>140365428Stick to Australia mate
>>140365428Turn off the VPN.
>>140362769FUCK more schools in Chicago. Or more hospitals. They will just keep the gang bangers alive.Let'em cook. Fuck Chicago literally everyone else in the state hates it too
>>140362930If it's in the North Side the Police keep the trash (aka blacks, illegals, etc) away
>>140365125> NC > Strict gun lawsNot for a year you fucking fag.If you arent American kindly FUCK OFF this is an AMERICAN WEBSITE.
>>140338396>>140338410>commit $4.6 billion>in fucking chicongokek what a bitch
>>140365231> information that is almost a decade oldAustralia is a country full of fags
>>140339808> no voting rightsHow often do you pop off at the mouth about things you know absolutely nothing about? How embarrassing for you.
>>140365881>Green Gay fan asshurtThe sky was blue again today
>>140338396>domeSoulless
>>140365643>Let'em cookLmfao
>>140368868It's from the Brad Pitt movie Fury
>Taxpayers still owe $629 million for past renovations of Soldier Field and Guaranteed Rate Field, whose occupants, the White Sox, also are seeking a new stadium in the South Loop.LOL, they're like people who never pay off their car before rolling the balance owed into a loan for a newer car.>Illinois Governor Pritzker said Wednesday morning at an unrelated news conference that taxpayer assistance for stadium projects is “not particularly popular around the country.”>He noted that voters in Jackson County, Missouri, recently rejected a tax proposal to help fund stadium projects for the Kansas City Royals and Chiefs on the heels of the NFL team’s latest Super Bowl victory.>As for the Bears’ plans, “I remain skeptical about this proposal, and I wonder whether it’s a good deal for the taxpayers,” Pritzker said. “There are a lot of priorities that the state has, and I’m not sure that this is among the highest priorities for taxpayers.”>Pritzker said “owners of these private businesses need to put a lot more forward in order to have their dreams fulfilled and not just rely on the taxpayers of Illinois to have that happen for them.”
>>140361558Arselel's stadium cost 400m, albeit in 2004
>>140338396>>140338410this looks like it's in the city. didn't they already buy the land in Arlington Heights?
>>140378609>be Bears>buy 300 acres of suburban land after a horse track closes>hire new president to figure out how to build the stadium and build up the rest of the land>new president doesn't want to leave Chicago and basically uses the suburbs as a bargaining chipIt's funny because they spent like $150M on the land and they weren't even publicly discussing building a new stadium until the horse track closed.
>>140338396They current stadium isn't even that old
>>140360768I get so triggered by Little Ceasers. The Joe was hockey mecca.
>>140338396>indoorDROPPED
>>140360063it is clearly neo-classic that is intended to sit on a lot of a modern city. greek built their stone temples as centers and not in lot style or along triumph roads and therefore look very different to neo-classical buildings.
>>140339360Would you prefer Blackrock Arena or McDonalds stadium?>flagIm gonna assume yes
>>140380233But it’s a renovation of an older stadium, isn’t it? So it has limited options. Similar things are the case with my favorite football club, I assume: the stadium was built in the 60s and renovated in the 90s, basically a complete overhaul - but the foundations are still the old ones. That’s why they can’t expand or enlarge
>>140338396>3/4 NFC North stadiums could be permanently domedSoulless, I don't give a fuck if it gives the city an opportunity to host the Super Bowl, outdoor games in January are based
>>140365125So what. Even if you made strict gun laws in all 50 states you just add a huge fucking arrow coming up from mexico to the current chart.
>>140338396Have these actually worked anywhere? I imagine the “commerce district” will just be overrun with black and mexigoblin urban youths. Anyone with money to spend will only go on game day or not at all
Chicago is a corrupt criminally run city all that money is lining the pockets of corrupt politicians, criminals, gangsters and cartels.
>>140338396looks similar to vegas
mcdonalds field at boeing stadium in the united airlines downtown entertainment district ™
>>140382534It's insane that they'll make a billion dollar decision for a domed or open stadium just so they can host the Super Bowl one time
>>140380178tbf, they did want to go to Arlington Heights, but no one in Arlington heights wanted the Bears. They wanted like 2 Billion from the town, which they do not have. Also, there would be soo much work in the area needed and it would be a literal nightmare
>>140383075People will be quick to bring up The Battery in Atlanta, which is technically successful. But if you ever walk around there it feels cheap and artificial, and there's not really anything that would make most people want to come back over - that is to say there's not much there that you can't find anywhere else nearby. It's just retail and restaurants and a team store. Literally just as soulless as any other modern outdoor shopping center.
>>140383075The MiLB stadium in my cityBut they had a large chunk of centrally located undeveloped land that previously was the state mental hospital, and obviously MiLB stadiums are smaller and cheaper to build and the stadium literally has office space on its building
>>140339184kys
>>140344071That mean absolutely nothing
>>140359448Yeah the Vikings won so many Super Bowls playing outside
>>140364650kys
>>140365125liberals will do literally anything but admit black people are violent
>>140339715>or would be if the fan owners had actual voting rights instead of mickey mouse sharesnah, that's how IRL socialism eventually ends too.
>>140362879No, they start like >>140338396 but end like >>140360768.If only they were like >>140339102, it would be a vast improvement over [current year].
>>140384092It's also out in the suburbs so the (((youths))) aren't as a big of a problem, yet.
