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LMFAO WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING

BILLS KEKED BY KC
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bengos
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>seahawks get to draft the consensus best defensive player because of everyone panicking about QBs

thanks dummies
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currently in the "it's so over" point
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Next year's top QB prospect right now:
>Ewers
>Sanders
>Beck
>Milroe
>Gabriel
>Van Dyke
>Weigman
Now you know why everyone is drafting a QB this draft. Next year, you'll see 50%+ defensive players go in the first round.
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>letting the Patriots take Maye
Kek the league is built for BPC I guess
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>>140381997
I noticed they all have expensive watches on.
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>>140381963
I am glad the Pats got a QB and didn't trade down for 4 5th rounders and a 3rd next year like Bill would've done... but not sold on Maye.
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>>140381997
This your first time watching the draft or something?
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Will Bo Nix be good?
>t. Colorado anon whos a bigger fan of the Nuggets
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>>140381997
>being a jealous faggot in 2024
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>>140381997
They don't look too much different from a few years before nil
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>>140381997
>people taught to market themselves are seen marketing themselves
wew
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You can usually tell when a team is going to draft a QB, and all 6 teams that drafted QBs were giving huge signs about drafting a QB prior.

Only people who weren't paying attention got blindsided by this.
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Please tell me nobody is dumb enough to draft Devin Leary on Day 3. Dude is UFL or practice squad lifer at best.
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>>140381997
>>140382011
Where have you been the last 20 years on draft day that this is new to you?
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I'm disappointed in Packers fans right now. I'm seeing way too many memes about Caleb Williams being gay because he wears Nail polish. Making fun of people's sexual orientation is not the flex you think it is- it just reinforces the belief that we are a stupid hick fan base. Lombardi did not tolerate any bigotry.

He can wear whatever he wants.

We'll still own them!

GO PACK.
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>>140382000
Maye is gonna bust harder than Zach Wilson
Imagine having Riley Reiff as you LT1 and KJ Osborn as your WR1 and now we're at round 2 after a rush on all the tackle and WR talent
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>>140382049
Packers fags are loons.
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Who is going to draft the whitest QB in draft history? He's still on the board and ready to go.
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>>140381997
Looks like over half the black players blew all their college money on jewish diamonds and designer clothes
White QB shows up in a suit from Men's Warehouse
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>>140382041
Falcons were not expected to draft a QB because no one thought they'd be that fucking stupid.
We underestimated them
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>>140382050
I thought Riley was retiring? Eitherway, he's not playing a snap.
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>>140382062
raiders
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>>140382066
i meant to type all 5 teams, i made this autistic post last thread >>140381944
6 QBs were gonna go imho Penix before end of the 1st if Falcons didn't draft him, by a team like Raiders or further down.
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>>140382068
Even worse then, because the Pats failed to find a tackle in free agency.
Their worst pass protection in the league from last year is getting worse.
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>>140382047
College players didn't get paid money until recently
And there were a shitload of rules and regulations about giving them gifts or money
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>>140382064
I actually know a jeweler in nyc who said that these players would buy their draft day jewelry basicially on a rent-a-center payment plan where they pay 3-4x more than what the jewelry/watches are actually worth.
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We've jumped the shark. What the fuck is with these retarded, pointless trades?
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>>140382083
It was always like this, zoom zoom.
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>1 year of Desmond Riddler scared the Atlanta Falcons into not only locking up Kirk Cousins but drafting Penix
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>>140382082
Hopefully they keep Maye on the bench and let Brisket tank the damage, but my fear is Kraft will want to start the rookie as the Pats go 1-5.
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>>140382103
FASTER!
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>>140382084
the black IQ can't conceptualize the past or present. They only live in the present, which is why they don't do anything about the fire alarm beeps.
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>>140382107
Racism isn't allowed on Blue Boards, anon.
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>>140382103
this is incane
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>>140382112
>won't lock-up Kirk Cousins
>will draft a guy made of glass
This is just how Atlanta does business
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>>140382132
Kirk is locked up and penix is drafted
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>>140381997

I don't really care, it was always fucked up how these college kids put on a show for a billion dollar league and don't get compensated for it
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>>140382129
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>>140382145
White fragility
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>>140382038
It's been worse
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>>140382157
honestly i'm terrified
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>>140381997
Odunze seemed really humble
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The draft narrative this year has been a midwit rampage and frenzy. From over hyping Caleb Williams to pretending like Penix didn't just drag a mediocre team to a CFP championship and isn't a tall, self confident consummate QB that would be ideal to draft and train.

You know people don't know shit about football when they excuse the Falcons drafting Robinson in the 1st last year but think it's in any way a bad pick to take Penix this year while they have the luxury of letting him sit and prepare.

Cousins isn't their "QB of the future" he's literally a fucking stopgap journeyman. His prime is gone and it was only ever a low ceiling of 10th best QB in the league. These people are fucking retarded.
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>>140382083
>College players didn't get paid money until recently
Is this nigga serious?
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>>140382107
hey cars are cool and never a waste of money
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what the fuck was that
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>>140382163

I'm not really a communist so I don't believe in running a billion dollar organization while refusing to pay the actual people who run the show, and hoard the money for your small collection of owners and media Jews
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>>140381997
THIS. First it was the NBA and now the NFL. Materialistic scum and prima donnas. Only baseball and hockey are saved from this. In baseball there are already some though.
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>>140382084
some boring class about saving money can't undo an entire upbringing where every famous nigger they see is wearing 5-6 figures worth of jewelry at any time
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WE DID IT Bills bros! We secured the fifth rounder. Our plan is going swimmingly.
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>>140382177
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>>140382050
Maye will win in spite of his surroundings. This is a better situation than he had in college and at least he'll be able to lean on defense.
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>>140382222
>Maye will win in spite of his surroundings.
This is the NFL, not the GayCC.
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>>140382084
>tfw you waste $100,000 before signing a $1M contract
Life is pain
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>>140381997
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>>140382261
hmm if you have a problem with that maybe you should raise White sons that are better than blacks at football so there won't be any more blacks in football
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>>140382261
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drafting a QB in the first round is retarded. 3/4ths are total busts.
pick one in the 3rd every year and youll find one in less than 5 years, wont pay him shit and have better talent around him
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>>140381991

Idk, pretty much no one excited this year either. Is it just me or is every college prospect QB these days some kind of "raw", "unfinished", "unproven" product without a convincing resume? I could swear 1st round QBs 10 years ago actually felt like 1st round QBs and now it's a bunch of literally whos.
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>>140382222
It is a far worse situation than he had in college relatively.
Pats only have WR3s and WR4s. Defense also hits harder
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>>140382184
They paid Cousins $100M guaranteed dummy. Penis is gonna be 28 by the time he finally starts.
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>>140382081
>I meant to type 5
No you're just a retarded autist that got called out. Very sad
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>>140382049
I like Caleb Williams because he’s making so many people seethe. I bet this is what people said about Joe Namath when that faggot had long hair and a fur coat.
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>>140382303
This was the worst place he could've been drafted. I hope that he sits at least.
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>>140382308

They don't have to wait until Cousins finishes his contract to start him, dumb fuck. Cousins is an insurance policy. Yes, QBs are expensive in 2024, even mediocre ones. You fags don't understand anything about the current NFL landscape. This is clearly a situation where they expect Cousins to start 2 years and Penix to be ready whenever. Penix is on a rookie contract so it isn't doubling up on QB cap hit, this is how a transition works.
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>>140382311
No i meant to type 5 and im right
:^) all my projections in >>140381944
were right
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>>140382295
the curse of bama dabbing on everyone harvesting 5 stars and shit QBs. Also QBs not mattering in college anymore with all the spread.
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>>140382107
>kills a bunch of packer fans
>flaunts his crimes in front of them
I may be jealous
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So the Raiders are really drafting Quinn Ewers or Shedeur Sanders next year?
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>>140382261
I think it's Fernando Tatis jr. who signed some retarded contract where he got a bunch of money up front and now some agency gets like 10% of his contract money going forward.
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>>140382235
>>140382303
>This is the NFL
>Defense hits harder
The league where you're not allowed to touch QBs and every WR gets a free release at the line? It's not like Maye will have to score every drive. Just need a few first downs and a highlight play or two.
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>>140382341
Actually, they should draft our Lord & Savior.
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>>140382325

This is why I keep saying, ignore the analysts, load up on 2nd/3rd round draft capital, and just routinely draft QBs in that window until one wins in training camp. There are no "sure things" in the 1st round anymore among QBs, they're drafting fucking Bo Nixes now lmao.
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>>140382104
>>140382185
Couldn't legally get paid shit until a few years ago you retards
>Bruce Schoenfeld wrote about changes made in July 2021 to the rules that govern collegiate athletics that allow student athletes to earn money from corporate sponsorships and to accept money from supporters. But few players, he writes, are seeing any of it:
>For more than a century, or as long as the N.C.A.A. has presided over college sports, athletes had no legal way to earn anything more tangible from their achievements than plaques and trophies. The rules were as clear as they were strict: Players couldn’t receive any benefits linked to their participation in a sport
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/06/learning/college-athletes-can-now-be-paid-but-not-all-of-them-are-seeing-money-is-that-fair.html
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>>140382295
>conferences are top-loaded with no depth
>all the best schools play an OOC schedule filled with G5 & FCS shitters
>QBs have 1 great year before declaring
>all rely on the massive talent they have around them
>colleges all run out of the same spread offense
>colleges are filled with meme QBs
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>>140382294
>Waste a day 2 pick every year on a single position until it hits
Based retard
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>>140382322
falcons suck and they are going to suck for 3 more year they should be drafting players to prepare the team to draft a QB in 3 years.
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>>140382349
You can touch most QBs, but not the ones the NFL have deemed untouchable. Mahomes is untouchable. Burrow you can do whatever and nobody gives a fuck.
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>>140382250
>buy mama, grandmama houses on adjustable rate mortgages
>gotta have my sports car
>gotta get that jewelry
>gotta get me the best house on an ARM
>out of the league in three years
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Who were the three big losers of the draft so far, and why are they the Falcons the Eagles and the Bills?
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>>140382385

It isn't a waste. There are tons of good day 2 QBs now and in the past. Not only can you find gems there, but by forcing them to earn the starting role you insure yourself further from going all in on some ballerina fuck like Williams and making him think he's won before he's played a snap. It's perfect strategy.
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>>140382385
>stack your roster with first round picks and premium free agents because you never pay a QB
this only works until everyone copies it but its insane that no one is doing it. what exactly do the raiders and titans think they have to lose?
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>>140382391

If you want to follow the Packers model, draft a trainee, you have to do it right now. While you have a competent QB starting. There is no other way...
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>>140382424
Well, for the people drafting on those teams, their jobs
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>>140382424

I mean you'd still want to pay the QB if you lucked into an elite one even from the 2nd/3rd round. This is more about realizing the gap between 1st/2nd is no longer as big as people think and that elite prospects aren't being developed in college anymore, so you have to do some development yourself before they see the field.
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>>140382412
The bears
>gaylep overhypedliams
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>>140382432
Chiefs traded to move up from 27 to 10 to get Mahomes kek
With the BILLS kek
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>>140382432
Everyone followed this model until like ‘83. The. You’d occasionally see rookie qbs start. It wasn’t until like the mid to late 90s you saw this guaranteed baptism by fire for rookie qbs. I’ll still argue David Carr would’ve been great if he didn’t get fucking destroyed on every play for three years straight.
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>>140382449
you dont need to pay them if you keep drafting them. and they dont need to be elite if you have elite talent everywhere else because you use your high picks and money on the rest of the roster.
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>>140382322
>Hurr you don't know how contracts work
Kek Cousins has a top 10 contract with fully guaranteed money that will keep him there for the entirety of his deal. This isnt how transition works dumbass. You're supposed to have a veteran on a 1 year mid level deal at best so you can take advantage of the cheap rookie deal. Instead of having multiple high end players along with Penix they're going to be stuck with Cousins making $50M lmao. Cope harder retard.
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It's funny how this morning all over the country and on various morning radio and podcast shows other teams are not only talking about their own team's draft but are also commonly bringing up the falcons every time.

top fucking kek.
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>>140382476
release more primates in there and see what happens
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>>140382028
No. Payton nor the Broncos have any luck with drafting qbs.
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>>140382478
>you dont need to pay them if you keep drafting them
This is already the RB meta. Draft a new one once the rookie contract is up.
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>>140382471

Yeah, trends come and go. It may become a meta who knows. All I know is the products coming out of college are generally shit now and you have to prepare accordingly. People were spoiled with the deluge of mature pro style QBs entering the draft from 1995-2010.
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>>140382387
The WR didn't even try...
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>>140382367
>Couldn't legally get paid
>This means nobody got paid and if they did they rarely got away with it
Yeah this nigga is retarded
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>>140382464
Sean Payton was supposedly gonna draft him next for the Saints. Imagine that timeline.
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>>140382489
Amy Lawrence is unironically a top three current sports radio host.
>Jim Rome
>Scott Ferral
>Amy Lawrence
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>>140382485

They wouldn't have gotten Cousins if they didn't offer him a league-standard deal. You're in a fantasy world. You don't get a good stopgap QB for cheap in the NFL in 2024. It's Kirk Cousins, he isn't an all timer, he isn't their QB of the future, there was never any intent to commit to him long term, he will be gone before Penix could ever sign his own contract.

>hmmm well why didn't they just do something that's impossible because nothing is ideal in a league where people are competing tooth and nail for good players

They had to "overpay" by some amount to get to this situation because they didn't already have a franchise QB established. $50M is literally league average for QB now, welcome to the world of overpaid QBs.
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>>140382512
>consuming outrage bait
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>>140381991
sanders would have been qb 2 this year
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>Draft winners
Cardinals, Chiefs, Cowboys, Colts, Jaguars
>Draft Losers
Eagles, Falcons, Bills, Vikings, Commanders
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>>140382366
It's still better to take a chance on a highly talented top QB (read: not JJ, Penix, Nix.) Wasting a ton of picks on busts each year for mediocrity will do more harm than good.
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draft winners win in the later rounds retard.
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>>140382387
>QB has a lowlight, maybe even two
I take it all back. It's over...
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I see practically everyone in this city exploding and celebrating as if we've won the superbowl
forgive me if I'm different but I'd rather celebrate after we win the superbowl
we've been burned by this team too many times and being born in 1986, I've literally never witnessed my own team winning anything. It's been nothing but pain and losing so I can't celebrate or understanding how anyone else is celebrating here in this city today
Am I the one in the wrong here is or is everyone else wrong?
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What was with the Pat Mcafee broadcast getting the picks like ten minutes before they were formally announced?
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I met Jayden Daniels last night. He's soooooo cool in person
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It's ogre
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>>140382432
The Packers were planning on only sitting Love 1 year max but Rodgers started winning MVPs
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>>140382569
those people are idiots, everyone in the know realizes williams is yet another bears qb bust
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>>140382551

You literally can't "bust" after the 1st round, anon. The point is, 80% of 1st round QBs now are flaming out. So save that valuable pick for a high probability valuable position like WR, DE, T, or just trade it for more picks, take QBs in the 2nd/3rd and FA, have a good development program, make them earn it, get your own Cousins, Hurts, Wilson, etc. It isn't far fetched at all and fits perfectly with an era where QBs aren't being prepared well in college. It's going to get even worse now that they bounce around from program to program.
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>>140382545
Sanders is a Day 3 pick at best just for his running ability, and he's not even the fastest QB prospect, that's Milroe. Sanders beat up on shitters and once he played anyone remotely good, they got their ass beat.
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>>140382410
>retire a millionaire in 3 years instead of a billionaire
I'd kms
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>>140382580
OWARI DA! THE AFC WEST HAS FALLEN!!!
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>>140382569
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XHt34sg7RsM
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Did all the blacks get together and say, "We be wearing sunglasses inside now."
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>>140382582

.... the Packers had just gone 13-3 and were one throw away from a Super Bowl, when they drafted Love. There was speculation that he could sit for 4 years. It was a far more absurd move contextually speaking.
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>>140381981
cant all have geno smith lol
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Serious question. Why is the media jerking off JJ McCarthy soo much?
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>>140382489
>we'll continue breaking down our newly acquired players but first we HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE FALCONS. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING
kino
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>>140382588
What compounds all these QB busts is that everyone is chasing a new Mahomes. A Jared Goof or Stafford, stationary type these days wouldn't go in the 1st round.
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Whenever you start to feel like NFL teams know what they're doing, remember that one year Lamar Jackson can sit in the back room until the 30th pick, while another year Jayden Fucking Daniels gets hyped up to 2nd pick overall. Some of these organizations are clown shows.
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>>140382417
Day 2 QBs are taken in Round 1 now so the pickings are more slim. And you're choosing between untalented systembabbys at best or injury prone/mental midgets with a decent arm or speed. Still better than reaching on a Bo Nix in round one but doing this every year until you get a hit is a waste of resources.
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Does every white person just brag about how much blacks and jews dominate them
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>>140382507
Kek he didn't
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The entire sports world has come together to shit on the Falcons a second time in 7 years. Thank you Atlanta for bringing us all together again.
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>>140382585
Every bears QB is assumed bust until proven otherwise.
God it is so depressing being a fan of this team. I'm literally 36 and have never seen my team win a super bowl. Do you all know how this feels?
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>>140382631
>pagan belief
Holy based. I like him now.
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>>140382615

Because they aren't paid to be correct. Never listen to anyone who isn't paid to be correct.
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>>140382424
They aren't doing it because even when you have all stars on offense and defense with a highly capable game manager and a high end coach you'll still job to Mahomes with mediocre weapons.
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>>140382598
what causes this?
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>>140382651
No. My team won a Super Bowl when I was 15, they haven't won anything since but I still cherish that bussy memory. I can understand your frustration and sadness.
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>>140382651
>Do you all know how this feels
yes, fans of many different teams know how this feels
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>>140382599
sun glasses are a brand
sun glasses offer sponsorships
draft is a big event

why do you think mahomes wear oakleys. why do you think teams who win playoff games pop champenge wearing ski goggles.

to sell products
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>>140382633

Reaching with a 1st round pick on a new bust every 3 years is a far worse waste of time and resources.

A deep team with a mediocre QB will still go further than a thin team with a bust at QB. The trade is "guaranteed depth, the chance at developing a great QB", vs. "high chance of continually busting out and getting stuck in a Chicago kind of cycle."
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>>140382651

>36 and still on 4chan

bruh
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>>140381997
You're autistic, it's ok
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>>140382661

No one has any chance right now of having a Mahomes + Reid situation. Isn't even worth comparing your situation to that, that is just straight fortune. GMs need to be realistic and aiming to make the playoffs first and foremost, not win ships until they're close to that point.
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>>140382685
you never leave this place. one day youll understand, zoomer
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>>140382489
lol it's true even over here they started talking about the falcons pick

They aren't even in our conference!!!!
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is terrion “hey” arnold a dog?
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>>140382595
We know your family has no generational wealth. You seem to have the acumen of a potato.
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>>140382633
>not wanting the Whitest QB in draft history
>not wanting the tough Green Wave
>not wanting the Mormon Statue
>not wanting the Kentucky Shitter
>not wanting the black Will Levis
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>>140382685
zoomers are on their phone apps. Everyone here started to visit 15 years ago.
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>>140382714
Imagine not starting posting on /sp/ after 18-1 happened
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>>140382543
>They wouldn't have gotten Cousins if they didn't offer him a league-standard deal
That's not league standard lmao and they didn't need to guarantee damn near the entire thing. Youre right that they probably don't land him otherwise though since the Falcons are a dumpster fire organization.
>You don't get a good stopgap QB for cheap in the NFL in 2024
Guaranteed for 4 years isn't a stopgap and yes you can get a decent 2 year bridge for half of what Cousins got.
>$50M is literally league average for QB now
It "literally" isn't. That's a top 10 contract.
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My Packers :)
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>>140382725
Do zoomers even know what 18-1 is?
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>>140382743
is that when Brazil beat Germany?
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>>140382743
Shut up bruh you sussin frfr
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Anybody saying Xavier is too small are admitting they just started watching football a few years ago.

DeSean Jackson was a similar size and Reid got 1,300 yards out of him with inferior QBs like Donovan McNabb and Michael Vick throwing to him.

Xavier is faster and he'll have arguably the best QB of all time throwing to him.
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>>140382725
This. I remember it all. The daily three thread long US vs UK flame wars. Everyone on PCs so every fifth post was 20 hours in MS paint. The Philmarillion. The Huelocaust.
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>Vikings have no QB
>Bears have no QB
>Lions have a much harder schedule this season

packers will probably win the division
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>>140382704
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I wish 4chan was around when the Vikings lost to the Falcons on Gary Anderson's missed kick. Would have been amazing.
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>>140382729

That is league standard. "league standard" isn't the current average pay, the new threshold is constantly bumping up. Any QB over top 15 is expensive.

Dude ANY NEW QB CONTRACT WILL BE A TOP 10 CONTRACT lmao, WELCOME TO THE NU NFL. If you don't want Desmond Ridder, you have to pay a shit ton.
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Makes me think
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>>140382759
The NFL has gotten so much worse that Andy Reid has basically been running the exact same offense for over two decades.
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>>140382569
you're not wrong, the Bears didn't make those picks to win games rather to sell tickets and merch
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>>140382569
So you're gonna be a depressed pessimistic cunt until the confetti drops? I guarantee you aren't a minority in this when it comes to Bears fans. The reason people are excited though is because the Bears are making good moves. The foundation is set and now theyre dropping a QB into a great situation to excel. 8 or 9 wins and maybe a playoff berth is a realistic expectation and there's still room in the cap to fill out the rest of the roster next season while still going all in on the draft and FA.
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>>140382774
>He hasn’t missed all year
KWABOTY. That Vikings team should’ve been in the Super Bowl, they were incredible. The Falcons got their asses beaten anyway
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>>140382804
still tony
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looking at kirk's contract, they can trade him after 2025 without incurring that bad of a cap hit because there's only 100 million in total guarantees, so benix won't necessarily have to ride the pine until he's 28. the pick is still mind-boggling, because why wouldn't you take a 21 year old redshirt sophomore to sit and develop instead of a 24 year old super senior, and why do you even feel such an urgency to install a succession plan after making all these all-in moves in march? but after the initial shock, with some time to think about it, it's more like a C-/D+ pick, not clelin-ferrell-at-#4-tier retardation which was my initial reaction
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>>140382799

A "great situation" like the Bears don't still have a pasta strainer O Line
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>40-YARD DASH
Mahomes 4.8
Wentz 4.77
Ross 4.64
Gray, Perine 4.62
Kelce, CEH 4.61
Remiggio 4.56
Average NFL linebacker 4.54
Average NFL Free safety 4.53
Ingram 4.53
Rice 4.51
Average NFL corner 4.48
Average NFL WR 4.47
Washington, Miller 4.48
Smith 4.46
Powell 4.45
Watson 4.44
Rees-Zammit *4.43
Moore, Prince 4.41
Toney 4.38
Pacheco 4.37
Brown 4.27
Worthy 4.21

Imagine lining up across from Worthy, Brown, Pacheco, Toney, Kelce, and Mahomes. *Zammit at top speed eclipsed top speed in NFL by 2 mph
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>>140382779
why are poltards like this? I swear yall are as bad as trannies
>group discussion about a topic
>poltard enters
>POLITICS POLITICS POLITICS!!! RACE BAIT RACE BAIT RACE BAIT!!!!
you are the same as trannies on /v/ and /tv/
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>>140381989
Ehh. The Bills basically moved 5 spots, from 28 to 33, in a very high-quality draft and got higher picks in every other round which they need to us to fill the holes on their roaster. Trading with the Chiefs is a meme but they were probably going to get Worthy anyways.
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>>140382625
Lamar was hilarious because even the ravens passed on him.
Actually the Ravens themselves kinda sum up how bad nfl teams are at drafting. They're the best drafting team in the league by a lot of metrics and they're still atrocious at picking offensive skill players. Just picking the best defender/o-lineman avaliable the rest of the time is enough to make them better at drafting than 90% of the league.
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>>140382829
Are you planning on posting this same exact thing in every thread? For how long?
Let me know so I can set up my filter.
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>>140382832
/tv/ is seriously the worst board
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>>140382570
>What was with the Pat Mcafee broadcast getting the picks like ten minutes before they were formally announced?
They were being leaked again, Breer was posting most of them early. Kinda interesting because you could tell what teams/agents don't like him by the picks that didn't get tipped.
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The single most important questions of this year's draft: Will a K, P, or LS be drafted, and who will take the first one?
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>>140382819

In 2 years, he will be 25/26. He will have learned behind a guy who is legitimately decent as a QB and is a solid Christian dude who will be willing to help show him the ropes. He is a prototypically sized QB who just dragged the weakest team to ever appear in a CFP championship by roster quality. There is literally nothing crazy about this move, midwit momentum is freakish when Mel Kiper puts an idea into their head.
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Rams with the steal of the draft so far. Needed a pass risher and they got black Ryan kerrigan with pick 19, no trade

(Odunze is a slow contested catch merchant with small baby hands and short arms)
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>>140382588
I agree with you unless you mean to constantly waste day 2 picks on QBs just to eventually end up with a Cousins. You know the roster isn't built in the first round right? It's usually those day 2 and 3 picks hitting that keep teams consistently good. Most round one QBs bust because they should actually be drafted in round 2 like JJ and Nix or they're drafted to shit situations like Maye.
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>>140382853
Not even close. /gif/ is probably the worst since it's >40% bots.
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>>140382547
>Vikings
>losers
>left the draft with a QB projected to go in the top 6 and an Edge projected to go in the top 10
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>>140382844

I love using the Ravens as an example because they truly do just that. Utterly uninspired BPA drafting, usually guys from big schools, and they always have a solid deep roster. Everybody gets so fucking cute during the draft.
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>>140382844
Similar to the packers just endlessly being able to churn good o-linemen out of the mid-late rounds
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>>140382184
I saw some analyst say Williams deserved to go first overall because he almost took his team to the playoffs. A ridiculous amount of glazing.
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>>140382708
>tfw no generational wealth
I hold a gun up to my head every night but I'm too cowardly to pull the trigger
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>>140382188
Nice ride anon
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>>140382819
They're going to trade Penix to the Cowgirls for Micah Parson. Everyone knows the Cowgirls are sluts and want Penis inside their facility. Trust the process.
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>>140382599
>His future isn't so bright he has to wear sunglasses at night
Grim
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>>140382832
>y’all
Stopped reading, you just conceded your own argument. Just admit you are either a tranny or a shitskin gorilla, or both!
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>>140382819
They can't trade him because he has a no trade clause and he is infamous about not waiving it ever lol
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>>140382844
You can get RBs for peanuts. Plenty of good or better WRs are cap casualties. Going all in on defense and o-line is the way to do it.
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My team won the draft. Your team lost. Simple as.
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>>140382861
>the weakest team to ever appear in a CFP championship by roster quality
let's not get carried away, they had a joe moore award-winning offensive line and three receivers who will probably get drafted in the top 100. the defense was pretty bad though
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>>140382602
>One throw away
Kek
Also, Rodgers stats were declining by his standards along with him threatening retirement and generally being a cunt. They definitely were not planning on sitting Love for 3 years but were fine with it since Rodgers started playing at an MVP level.
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>>140382873
Ive been on this site for 14 years…and had never even gotten on /gif/ until the other day.

Those people are sick in the head. I legitimately cannot fathom being that addicted to porn, and whats up with the “sissy hypno” crap? What the fuck even is that?
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>>140382919
Das rite
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>>140382865
Black Eagles Ryan Kerrigan*
>>140382874
Who was projected to take that QB in the top six? And remember when the Eagles took a top 10 pick at 30? See how well that worked
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>>140382868

You know most of those elite skill position players, WR/DE/TE/T, you hear about? Those are usually first rounders. In some cases almost always first rounders. It's easier to spot 1st round talent in some positions and harder in others. It's hard for QB. So make it a game of numbers, take the guarantees in the 1st, and leave your speculative quantitative adds for the 2nd/3rd. There is literally nothing wrong with a seriously powerful team with a Cousins/Hurts/Wilson/Purdy/Minshew/Prescott kind of gem found later. Or even a FA add, sign a proven guy like Stafford to complete the team. I would argue there is actually deep value being ignored here because nobody bothers scouting and developing QB talent as much as they could, there's always a frenzy for the same basket of mediocre overhyped duds at the top of the 1st round.
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>>140382615
He's white. They overrate every white QB in the league with a winning record in college.
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My Eagles wishlist for day 2:
>Cooper Beebe, Kingsley Suamataia, or Kiran Amegadjie
>one of the top 3 LBs
If they secure those picks I think they win the draft. Also, if DeJean or JPJ continue to drop either would be an awesome pick, even with a small trade up.
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>>140382846
I stole the anon's >>140377593 post from the previous thread and as far as I know he's only posted it once. Imagine being bothered by a post you've seen only twice.
>Let me know so I can set up my filter.
Nobody cares what you filter anon. People come here to talk to the entire general, not just you in particular. The world doesn't revolve around you.
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>>140382943
Verse is more athletic than kerrigan so no. He's prime kerrigan at worst
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>>140382957
I think if Cooper falls to like 40ish, the Eagles should trade up to get him. If not try to get trotter Jr
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>>140382924

Speaking objectively, in terms of 247 team talent composite. They are an anomaly, everyone else was top 10 in overall talent, Washington was 30th. Almost never happens.
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>>140382943
The Vikings, Broncos, and Pats were all linked to like Mccarthy and have him ar 2 or 3 on their boards. Shoen also liked him but Daboll apparently really really wanted a WR.
Vikings were projected to give up pick 23 in a move up to hop the giants ever since they got it, instead they were patient and walked away with arguably the best defensive player in the draft
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>>140382967
It's very weird to me that all the guys I want them to draft have the name Cooper
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>>140382936
The board is legit filled with bots. Very few threads are organic. Just bots pushing agendas. It's why there's so many bbc, tranny, anti-white, etc. threads. /wsg/ is way better.
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You know, I'm not as upset at the Penix pick as I was when it happened. When I've actually thought about it we probably get 2 good years out of Cousins and thats if no more tendons explode and he doesn't regress. I'm not crazy about the injuries, but we at least needed a plan after Cousins. What I am mad about is how the fuck do you not trade back into the 1st. Your biggest need is on defense and the first defensive player doesn't get drafted until #15.
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>>140382934

They weren't at all, he adjusted to LaFleur's scheme. He was perfectly efficient and productive that year, the only thing we were missing was a WR2 to complement Adams. You're fucking the timeline up. He started dropping off after the Love fiasco and there were glaring issues once Adams left.

Rodgers had literally just won an MVP. There was no timeline, he could have sat there for another 5 years if Rodgers had receivers to throw to.
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howie roseman
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>>140382936
It’s all pajeets and third worlders that only have smartphones.
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>>140381963
If Drake Maye pan out, New England is indebted to Bellichick for tanking
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What even are the tampering rules with college transfers these days?
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>>140383003
It's crazy to think just how good he got at drafting
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>>140382706
Best CB prospect since Okudah
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>>140382684
>Reaching with a 1st round pick on a new bust every 3 years is a far worse waste of time and resources
It really isn't but I still wouldn't recommend drafting a QB in the first every 3 years either. I'd still prefer that than taking one in the 2nd or 3rd every year though.
>A deep team with a mediocre QB will still go further than a thin team with a bust at QB
It won't be deep if you're wasting all your day 2 picks on one position. You'll have a few high end stars with a QB that can't get the most out of them. And that's assuming the QB hits and isn't just a shitter like most of them are. You're assuming that it's any easier to develop an untalented pick than a highly talented one. Also Chicago is a bad example to use because they literally traded their first overall pick last year in order to put themselves in this situation and create a great landing spot for whoever they chose.
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>>140382997
>howie roseman
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>>140383043
(((Rose man)))
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The league don goof'd by letting my Chiefs win in 2023. I warned you guys that 2023 was the best time to beat us, now we'll have a top 5 offense and defense for the first time under the mutt era.
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>>140382697
Shortsighted loser mentality. But teams like the Lions are doing that. They're happy with doubling down on Goof and giving him a shiny new toy instead of drafting and sitting Richardson.
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>>140381997
replying even though the coward deleted the post
shame on you lads for not replying with this
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I'm unironically jealous of the Eagles, their team is run so well
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>>140383027
fucking portals man, how do they work?
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>>140383039

I didn't say draft 2 QBs every single year... just consistently get one per year until a winner is found, and find stopgap FA solutions otherwise. Have coaches that don't scheme for QB heroball, like the 9ers or Eagles. Those are good teams right?
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>>140382684
The perspective you're missing, is that every 3 years when they make this reach, they have a different GM making the reach.
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>>140382710
I don't want him in the first round. He's fine for a day 2 pick.
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>>140383061

Bs, see >>140383068

This is more like the 9ers and Eagles. Isn't it funny the worst thing the 9ers have done in 10 years is take a chance on Lance? Could have yet another guaranteed stud with that pick right now.
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>>140383063
They're eventually going to have to deal with the ramifications of dead money, but that's really only going to happen when Jalen hurts is bad enough to not sign a new contract.
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>>140383062
Based, chuds are the literal worst. They’re all autistic schizos that are afraid of minorities
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I like Alt as a prospect but someone has gotta remind Harbaugh he doesn't even have a proper WR2, let alone a WR1
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>>140383061
I still can’t believe they’re falling for the goof meme after what happened in LA.
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>>140382785
>it's average
>well no it's not average but every QB will have a top 10 deal because that's how averages work
You literally don't know what you're talking about dumbass. Just pull up Spotrac for a second before you mind break yourself further.
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>>140383073

Obviously an owner/GM would need to be on the same page. If you're a good owner, you find a good GM and trust his methods. This is actually high floor ball anyway, low chance of putting a 3-4 win team out there if they are continually snagging sure things in the 1st and they have the luxury of cap space to pull in elite FAs. Bust teams get stuck in the bust draft hell cycle.
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>>140381981
>consensus
I don't think that's true
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>>140383100
Just luck into a generational guy in the 4th round like the Lions did.
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>>140382957
>>140382967
if they don't draft an OL today, i'd be stunned. Cooper Beebe and Roger Rosengarden are the 2 i'd think are good options.

the other pick, i'm calling it now - either gonna be Baby Trott, or a total wildcard option that not many Eagles fans are expecting... like another offensive skill position player.
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>>140382825
They don't though. Just need a center and some depth. Out of all the QB needy teams the Bears were objectively the best landing spot.
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>>140383117
Yea most people hat Turner or Verse higher.
Murphy is a better fit for the Seahawks than them though so it's by no means a bad pick.
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>>140383109

It's average for the current market. It's like the housing market. You don't look at what the average price WAS, you look at what the new running price IS. QBs are always overpaid. Dan Jones just signed a fat contract for being dogshit. You have to pay an even bigger premium to lure an FA away from a team they like. You don't understand how markets work at all so consider shutting the fuck up about them.
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>>140382050
Neither of those two things are true you dumb nigger monkey.
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>>140382725
spee didnt exist
only /b/ shitposting for 18-1
but 18-1 created spee
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>tfw Kedon Slovis might end up being a journymen starter
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>>140383144
The board existed before, but it was so slow that they got rid of it. And it was only 18 and 1 that brought it back
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>>140383131

>44 sacks in 13 games
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>>140381963
Kirk a one year rental. They release him next off-season and eat the dead money charge since Penix will be affordable. Screencap this.
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>>140383128
Amon ra is good but he's nowhere close to generational.
Only generational WRs in the league left are Hill, Jefferson, and Adams with two of them being old as fuck.
You can MAAAAYBE argue Chase and Kupp but I would disagree.
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>>140383100
WR is crazy deep this year, you can get a startable guy pretty far into day 2.
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>>140382948
It's just as hard to hit on pretty much every position outside of Oline or Dline and WR has an even worse hit rate than QB. Again I have no problem with your strategy as long as you ain't wasting multiple picks on a single position because that's retarded.
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>>140382913
>Going all in on defense and o-line is the way to do it
Chiefs fixed their O line in free agency last season. Not usually worth wasting 1st round draft capital unless your line is god awful or there's a generational talent
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>>140383166

>WR has an even worse hit rate than QB

Do you realize how much you just invalidated your opinion with this Arctic cold take? Take a moment to go back and check
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>>140383159
The Falcons are not eating over 50M dead cap next year to get rid of a player that's far better than Penix.
The soonest Kirk would be cut would be after the 2025 season
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>>140382990
>You're fucking the timeline up. He started dropping off after the Love fiasco
I think you're the one messing up the timeline bud
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I still don’t understand why teams trade up for positions other than QBs, WRs and DEs. Seems like a waste of resources when the player you get won’t have any impact.
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>>140383130
I have my eyes on Malachi Corley or Roman Wilson if they go WR
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>>140383175
He's right.
It's just there's way more WRs drafted in the first round so you don't really realize how thee quarters of them end up WR3s and practice squad bozos on cheap deals
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>>140382725
I don't know what 18-1 means but that's the current age of my gf if you do the math. She's legal in my state.
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>>140383174
Not with a 1st round pick, but you can always use more depth at o-line.
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>>140383068
>just consistently get one per year until a winner is found
Yes and that's just as bad of a waste. Again those picks are what keep teams consistently good, not first rounders.
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>>140382788
Whitebros, what is going on here?
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>>140383150
Sacks are a QB stat
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>>140383175
WR is tough to evalueate since you can have a decent player post shit number because a better WR takes the majority of the stats on a team. Only one QB plays at a time. Feel like lots of high draft picks suffer in stats because tehy are WR2s.
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>>140383197
I feel like Roman Wilson will be really fucking good.
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>>140383184

How many window licking retards are in this thread?
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>>140383210
>I don't know what 18-1 means but that's the current age of my gf if you do the math. She's legal in my state.
Florida?
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>>140382651
I'm 40 so I was 2 for the superbowl. Technically all chisports team have won in my lifetime, but the one I'd care about the most I have no memory of outside of rewatching the super bears super bowl VHS over and over as a kid.
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>>140382569
You got to watch those Urlacher Bears teams wreck everyone on D. Got to watch them play in a Super Bowl too. I'm a Phins fan born in 93, we have been bad since my birth, I have never seen them win a playoff game. Let that sink in.
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>>140383205

I'd love to see their definition of hit/miss. The criteria isn't "hall of famer" in order to not miss. A productive WR2 is still an asset, a bust QB is not. That's the point.
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>>140383174
Chiefs need a left tackle. Donovan Smith is a free agent. Chiefs season went to shit the moment he got injured so his replacement isn't good enough and Veach even mentioned this.
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Caleb Williams is going to be good
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>>140383197
here's another idea: trade one of the picks down to the 3rd, then take Blake Corum. i really don't want to overwork Saquon. a high-end RB tandem like that can only help.
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>>140383216
Agreed but Caleb also sucks at taking sacks
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>>140383085
The Niners and Eagles were making moves with the long term in mind and wanting to win Championships. Which is why they took major risks in trades despite having teams that are good enough on paper to make it to the offs. And you're seeing now that even in their situation they now have to massively overpay their mediocre QB along with all the talent they acquired.
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>>140383223
>>140383210
How bout dem cowboys
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>>140383216
>he thinks a shitty o-line doesn't doom your QB
Are you a zoomer born after David Carr in Houston?
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>>140383235
He posted this chart yesterday, it's just whether or not they re-signed with the same team that drafted them. Not a completely accurate measure of hit or miss.
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>>140383238
Insane how delusional this general is regarding him. They throw all logic out of the window due to pure spite, then dig their heels in and loudly proclaim him a bust.
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>>140383235
"hit"=signed a second contract with the team that drafted them
"miss"=didn't sign a second contract, that's literally it, it's the most shallow analysis possible.
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>>140383235
Getting a starting roster market average contract I believe.
RB hit rate in reality is higher obv cause that shelf life is so low but the vast majority of 1st round WRs end up WR3s or on another team for a cheap deal after their rookie contract
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>>140383251
Pressures are (mostly) an O-line/D-line stat but sacks are mostly on the QB.
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>>140383223
Been dating her for a while. She's a little immature but her body is fully developed so there's nothing pedo about it.
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>>140383238
I'm thinking 10 wins for the Bears this year.
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>>140383255

2021
>Chase, Waddle, Smith, Toney, Bateman

2020
>Ruggs, Jeudy, Lamb, Raegor, Jefferson, Aiyuk

In what planet is this a worse hit rate than QB?Lmfao
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>>140383235
Yeah it's this >>>>140383255
Basically it's considered a hit if the player was offered a second contract with the team that drafted them.
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>>140383244
He seems to be happy when it happens, tho.
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>>140383237
>Chiefs season went to shit the moment he got injured
Their season went to shit by winning the super bowl?
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>>140383245
They haven't had to overpay for Brock purdy yet
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which qb will be the best out of all drafted in the 1st round? i think they’re all busts, but who will be the least bad
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>>140383136
Nigga you're the only one bringing up the past. Right now in this current market Cousins deal is not average lmao. Comparing it Daniel Jones which was also mocked that the Giants are trying to get out of is hilarious. You're completely blinded by cope and talking out of your ass. Again just take a peek at Spotrac. It's even easy to use for a cazzie like yourself.
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>>140383268
>>140383263

Yeah, that's terrible. See >>140383279

WR not only has a higher hit rate for "greats", they have a higher floor. Your 1st round WR may not become your WR1 but he can still contribute at WR2/WR3, or provide trade value. If your QB busts he is worth 0.
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>>140382565
Maye has a ton of lowlights.
Bro is twitchy and jumpy as hell.
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>>140383251
there have been many bad o-lines in history, but only one king of getting sacked
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>>140383271
Again, are you a zoomer born after David Carr in Houston?
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>>140383295
ViKANGS got em
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>>140383145
Clown image doesn't work when there's gaps
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>>140382853
>/tv/ is seriously the worst board
Why? Just curious
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>>140383296

I get the impression that you're a kid or new to the NFL, every single year there is a shocking wave of "ridiculous" contracts for average to so so QBs. This is the QB market. It's highly over inflated. If you don't pay, you don't get the QB, get that through your head.
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>>140383310
mccarthy will be exposed, i watched michigan all season and he is not that great
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>>140383292
They won but it was struggle city.
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>>140383316
You know that guy that desperately searches for something "woke" in every media release so that he can shit on it, not watch it, and just rewatch the same 1990s movies/series again? Now imagine an entire board populated with only that guy. It's a few thousand dudes that wish they were critical drinker.
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>>140383244
Not the best at avoiding sacks but not near the worst. He was sacked on 16.2% of pressured drop-backs. Only slightly worse than Maye's 14.7% and much better than Daniels' 23.3%. McCarthy was at 18.3%, Penix and Nix had a ridiculously low numbers of 6% and 5.4% respectively.
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>>140382569
shut up faggot
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>>140382853
I enjoy the thinly veiled coomer threads
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>>140383295
Dread it, deny it, it matters not because the next Brady has arrived
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>>140383222
Now look up when Rodgers won MVP
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>>140382853
/gif/ is the worst board, don't ever go
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>>140383374
This guy really charmed his way into a top 10 rookie contract. Good for him but he will bust.
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>>140383348
Good, builds team character and confidence
Everyone knows as long as Mahomes is out there then there's a chance to win
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>>140383301
He’s gonna have Joey Harrington level happy feet by year 3 if he’s even starting
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>>140383311
My Chiefs were always within striking distance of an owl. The worst they've done is lose in overtime in AFCCGs. So much for your gaps.
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>>140383293
It's coming. I'm expecting him to get the """"league average""""" $80M/yr fully guaranteed.
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>>140383395
I'm afraid you've been diagnosed with not knowing ball.
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>>140383387
Other anon, I once had it set up that I was filtering over 60 /gif/ threads, and it was still a shithole. Honestly pretty goddamn impressive.
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>>140383295
>i think they’re all busts
/nfl/ says this every year and is always wrong. Is there a worse group of talent evaluators?
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>>140383379

2020 and 2021. Love was in the 2020 draft. Can you just stop?
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The Bills need a WR. Why would they let the Chiefs and 49ers take two WRs ahead of them.
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>the failcons will simply eat $50 mil/year fully guaranteed when it's time to play Penix np bro
What is this cope?
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>>140383421
I remember when the vast majority of /nfl/ said Stroud was the worst QB of the big 4 last year lol
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>>140383411
5 years later:
>You guys don't know ball, JJ is still young and developing just give him time! He's totally not just a game manager!
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Caleb will be the only QB from the first round that will not be a bust. Other than Bo Nix, who will stick around the league as a solid backup. The 2nd best QB from this draft will be a day 2 guy, maybe Rattler.
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>>140383432
They’re planning on unveiling their new secret weapon, the 2 QB set
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>titans needed a left tackle
>don't trade up to get Alt
>Chargers pick him instead
>draft a right tackl in JC Latham
>ask him to move over to left tackle

>Chargers need right tackle
>already have a left tackle in Rashawn Slater
>draft another left tackle in Joe Alt
>ask Alt to move to right tackle

What the fuck did both of these teams mean by this?
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>>140383295
Maye will be good, but not elite. Daniels will be pretty good but held back by poor coaching. The rest are busts
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>>140383431
Heard anons say they're taking Conkey or something at 33
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Is it already over for him?
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>>140383441
What about JJ is bad?
What traits does he have that will lead to him being a bad QB?
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>>140383457
Refunds?
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>>140383457
No because his stats were decent.
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>>140383449
Same answer I gave last time you posted this: Alt is too talented to pass up just because you need a RT more than an LT.
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>>140382412
Add the Titans to that list for missing out on Alt and making a cope pick with Latham
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>>140383460

The fact that he has never looked like anything other than a game manager
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>it took NFL defenses 12 weeks to figure out the Eagles ran the most vanilla offense possible
Just how awful are coaches in the NFL?
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>>140383457
Nah, Falcons are just retarded
If they needed a QB they could have just traded up next season when there's not 5 teams looking for a QB
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>>140383457
>the christcuck Eli Manning
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>>140383446
You could do this with like Taysom Hill. I'm not saying it would be smart. But it could be interesting
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>>140383421

Actually, over 50% of 1st round picks are busts. So if you call everyone a bust you are on the good side of average. This year feels like one of those busty years where 80% never make it.
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>Bills GM reacts to the Chiefs:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1pJ-QpUSl4
Brandon Beane: "One of my wife's boyfriend's put this on for me to watch in the living room while they have bible study upstairs. It's very loud and rhythmic and creaky but the lord works in mysterious ways. Thank you Jesus, and thank you Brett Veach."
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>>140383318
I get the impression that you speak without even knowing the numbers you're talking about and just base your opinion on memes. The QB market is insanely inflated and Cousins contract is still an overpay even with that in mind. That's what makes it so hilarious. Same with DJ which was worse because the Giants were 100% only bidding with themselves.

Even by your own retarded logic it would still be better off for the team to have Geno/Baker/Carr/Goof on a short term deal for $30M rather than Cousins for an almost fully guaranteed 4 year contract at $50/yr.
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>>140383443
>doubting the Mormon gunslinger Kedon Slovis
Shame on you
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>>140382485

>Kek Cousins has a top 10 contract with fully guaranteed money

Only $100 million is fully guaranteed. He can be cut at the year of end three and we only eat a $12.5 million in dead cap money. They can cut him at the year of end 2 to avoid a $10 million roster bonus but his dead cap number would be $25 million.
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>>140383457
>stacks another rock
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>>140383295
Caleb is the only one I'm certain won't be a bust. Daniels will probably be good. I feel like Maye is fucked and McCarthy/Nix will be at best be a game manager. Penix won't play until he's 35.
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>>140383422
You're getting close. Now just add the dates.
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>>140383457
His w/l record is because his teams were shit, not because of him
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>>140383525

You're a fucking idiot and you know full well Rodgers was playing at a perfectly high level right as Love was drafted.
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>>140383460
I'll bite, JJ has a narrow set of successful passes, almost always from pistol or shotgun. Either he slams it in mid to short range in sketchy Favre fashion, or he's deep balling to receivers open by 8-10 yards. Both of these things will get you fucked in the NFL. Receivers are rarely that open, sloppy balls in double coverage get batted or picked and he's not going to get the time and looks he got from the shotty at MIchigan after the opponent has been brutalized by the defense and run game. Also fuck Michigan.
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>>140383491
He has the highest conversion rate when passing on 3rd and long of the entire draft class, with the only of the 6 QBs with worse receiver talent was Maye.
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>>140383498

Falcons are gonna lose picks next year, bro. They're going to nail them for tampering. They won't have shit to trade up.
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>>140383507
It means you're never right because the goal isn't to determine a bust but to find a hit.
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>>140383509

Those guys aren't all available. And it isn't fully guaranteed at all, see >>140383516

It's partially guaranteed, there is a cliff after year 2, and the cap hit isn't ridiculous. Cousins was statistically the best QB available on the market and you had to offer more than a meme 1 year $30M contract to get him from Minnesota.
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>>140383522
Post back of hand
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>>140383536
He makes more tight window throws than anyone in the class lol. Yea he needs to work on his placement for his deep stuff but at short and intermediate he is an absolute baller
He's also the only guy of the 6 QBs that went who ran a 4 read nfl offense.
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>>140383449
Sewell was a left tackle who moved over to right tackle. If the guy is good, it can be done.
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>>140383560
I'm a proud Indian.
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>>140383552

I don't call everyone busts, just many, and I'm usually right. Some are more obvious than others. I concede it's really hard to figure out who the "best" is going to be, but obviously that's hard for everyone. The people worthy of mockery are the ones who think they can do that and pick absolute memes to throw their weight behind.
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>>140383563
>He makes more tight window throws than anyone in the class lol.
The class is shit, that's the problem
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Penix is the same age as Sam Howell
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>>140383536
He plays for the Vikings now, anon. He’ll have the lions secondary to feast on for years. His guys will always be that open.
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>>140383589
That's a lot of bussy projection
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>>140383535
Concession aside, he was playing fine but his stats were declining by his standards and he was threatening to retire every offseason while generally being a cunt. If Rodgers doesn't go on to win back to back MVPs they would've dealt him or let him walk after a season.
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>>140383541
NFCS is so shitty the NFL will probably go easy on them just to make the division more interesting
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>>140383457
How fucking retarded is this team?
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>>140383602
They should give their picks to the Saints
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>>140383586

Bo Nix is like 30 and has never once looked like an actual QB
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>>140381963
>tfw football satan's (jerry jones) team aka the cowshits pisses off their star defender on draft day
>tfw their all-pro QB is probably gonna walk after this season since they won't make it past the divisional round yet again (they can't even beat the #7 seeded shart bay packers
>tfw the cowshits front office has already been "worn thin" by parsons

>tfw da bears easily won da draft
>tfw micah parsons knows this
>tfw he already knows that as soon as his rookie deal is up, he'll have a chance to go somewhere with football people running the show who would gladly let him play LB instead of forcing him to be an undersized DE

bears brehs, the future is bright and looking brighter. we can absolutely meme parsons here (in a few years). the cowshits are frauds and football satan only loves money, not gridiron football.
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>>140383592
kek
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>sell black qb
>draft black qb at no 1
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>>140383599

It feels like you're really, really messing up the timeline, and conflating post-Love events with pre-Love events. Things were quite good pre-Love. I remember vividly because I committed that moment to memory in case people misremembered later.

We were 13-3, the team was cohesive and in harmony, we were one WR away from Super Bowl contention, we drafted a QB instead. That's when shit hit the fan. We lost Adams, now had no depth at all at receiver, no continuity on offense, Rodgers lost faith in Gutekunst for losing faith in him, during an era where QBs can play at a high level through age 40. I'm still sour about it even if I'm happy that Love hasn't busted out. We needed WRs, not a QB and a RB.
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>>140383616
Mo' Dix finna see what the NFL is like
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>>140383554
He's in the same tier as those guys and got double their money and guarantees due to the falcons being desperate. Except they weren't desperate they were straight up retarded since they were planning on drafting a QB on a rookie deal anyway. After year 2 the cap hit is $57M and then they can get out of it.
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>sell black qb
>draft black qb at no 1
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Bears!
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>>140383592
cope. lions secondary will be good or great this year
>>140383638
chicago are retards. as a lions fan i'm feeling great that chicago drafted a gay bust at #1 and will waste another top 10 pick with shitty qb play. bears will continue to be a nonfactor, but this time with a ZESTY nigga instead of a pretty cool one
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>>140383638

>drafting a QB with the personality of Odell Beckham

it's like GMs want to get fired
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Who is going to be the retard next year to draft Cam McCormick, who is in his 9th year of college football eligibility next season.
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Why does GODleb William's make this General so mad. You all desperately want him to fail and it's honestly sad.
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>>140383664
He seems more likable than Odell to me
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>>140383578
You can be right about as many busts as you want but it will never be impressive. Also it's worse to be wrong about a bust than wrong about a hit because again the goal is to get hits. Imagine being the retard that said Mahomes is a bust and missing out on 20 years of greatness vs being the retard that said Jamarcus Russell is a hit and just wasting 3 years.
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>>140383638
Their Polish QB didn't work out either and they're kind of white
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>>140383489
....Christian bros who 'know' they sin, in spite of the truth and revelation of knowledge of Christ.... our response?
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>>140383669
>9th year
Is that even possible?
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>>140383658
>trading up for a CB
Could have stood pat and got a better player in Dejean, but yeah I’m sure they’ll be great this year. Might only give up 14 passes of 20+ yards a game this year instead of 15 a game.
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>>140383604

The NFL wrapped up it's investigation on the Cousins tampering. They're postponing the penalties after the draft and have likely told the Falcons what they're losing, so the Falcons figured they would draft a QB now while they had a chance. Cousins can be butthurt but he's the reason this investigation got started.
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>>140383622
>would gladly let him play LB instead of forcing him to be an undersized DE
what? is that his complaint? that they moved him to a more impactful position that his skillset is more suited for and that will make him way richer than off-ball linebacker? this gotta be some drug-induced fanfiction
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>2024
>I am already forgotten
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>>140383642
>It feels like you're really, really messing up the timeline
You've already proven that it's actually you doing this. Also how many successful WRs come from the back end of the 1st round? It's much smarter to take one in the second. Also it's laughable to think adding another WR would stop Rodgers from being a choking bitch.
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>>140383658
I remember watching Jordan Love feast on Thanksgiving
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>>140383616
Bo Nix and Zach Wilson are the same age. It's the mile high battle between the milf hunter and the happily married chad
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>>140383691
>redshirt
>3 season ending injuries
>covid
Yeah, it's possible. Dude will be 27 at the time of next year's draft.
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>>140383360
>Penix and Nix had a ridiculously low numbers of 6% and 5.4% respectively.
Nix played in a short pass, 'get it out' fast offense and Penix had one of the best offensive lines in college football
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>>140383669
he has like 8 total catches in his career to this point, so he'll really have to earn it. rooting for the guy though, would be an awesome redemption story after so many injuries
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>>140383710

Can you please just shut the fuck up? You know you're wrong and you know Rodgers already had an MVP when Love was drafted, just shut the fuck up.
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>Falcons fans thing Penix is starting next year or 2026
OH NO NO NO
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>>140383449
Take the best player and don't give up the farm on someone who is one injury away from Brian Bosworth
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Seems like a good guy, I'm glad >we got him.
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>>140383704
I actually believe this. First explanation that actually makes sense.
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>>140383738

What's he going to say? "You're going to compete for the starting job Kirko!"
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>>140383738
He'll be 28 lol and his contract will be up by then
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>>140383704
If that's the case Falcons are probably getting hit with a 1st or 2nd round penalty
I'm curious too, if the NFL told the Vikings they're being given said 1st, 2nd, or whatever round pick the falcons are losing, since Kwesi traded away most of next year's picks.
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>>140383728
He can play in the UFL, which would still be amazing. There's also Matt Ganyard who's a kicker and 34 with 2 kids.
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>there are "people" who rate JJ MemeCuckphry
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>>140383705
>a more impactful position that his skillset is more suited for

stopped reading there. casual cowshits retard alert. stick to hockey or vodka binges or whatever 3rd world shit you do while getting bombed by other 3rd world shit holes.
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>>140383720
How do you know Zach won't be happy in Denver?
The older women in Colorado have leathery skin and age like milk from the altitude and low humidity tho
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>penis debuts in his first NFL start at the ripe age of 29
The Falcons did him dirty honestly
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>>140383755
Well definitely not 4 or 5 years that's for sure. Saying that makes me think they're going to keep Kirk the whole 4 year contract if he performs well enough, and I think there's a decent chance of that
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>>140383713
your quarterback is a nog lmao. i feel sorry for you.
>>140383692
cb's however are meant to be nogs, i'm glad we traded for arnold
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Can Jackson Powers Johnson play guard? If so, I want the Saints to draft him desu
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>>140383771
Reminds me of Lou Hedley
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>>140383779
Colorado is milf country. Zach will be happy whether he ever starts another NFL game or not
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>>140383773
He'll be elite, respect him
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>>140383784
You know what QB was also 29 when they made their first NFL start? Brandon Weeden.
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The Falcons GM might be an undercover agent from New Orleans, deliberately sabotaging the team
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>>140383669
Falcons
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>>140383767

I've heard there is also a chance Kirk gets suspended for a few games given his involvement. Imagine if that happens and Penix balls out. Like another Bledsoe-Brady situation.
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My Pats have started another Dynasty
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There’s going to be another run on offensive players tonight,
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>>140383796
Yeah, that's probably his best position.
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>>140383796
Might as well get Barton, who actually is a guard
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>>140383790
You'll spread your legs for the rest of the NFCN, maybe zestyman will light you guys up for the turkey this year.
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>>140383814
There are so many good WRs left. And of course no one's picked a RB yet.
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>>140383804
That's not very encouraging
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>>140383812
the burrs thought the same when they reached for mitchie
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can we take a moment to show some respect to kirk cousins agent. That mfer has gotten him the bag like 4 times now, he should be in an agent HOF. If kirk only ends up playing 2 years he's still guaranteed 75 million iirc.
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>>140383828
keep coping faggot, the NFC runs through detroit
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>>140383812
>>140378506
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>>140383846
He's guaranteed 100m
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Michael Peendicks
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Kirk Cousins has been a great QB for years and I am tired of the mid allegations.
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Did Cooper DeJean's medicals scare teams of? Or is it just because he's a tweener?
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>>140383829
Benson and Brooks will go. Benson has that sub 4.4 speed, so he might go first.
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Kirk isn't mad at all. He didn't think he was going to win another Super Bowl or be the face of a new franchise, he was getting his last big paycheck. Time is just about up.
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>>140383866
He's brady if Brady choked in every important game he's ever played
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>>140383871
He's a white DB, he didn't have a chance.
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>>140383829
Looking forward to Jer’zhan falling to 61.
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>everyone bitches about drafting rookie qbs then throwing them to the wolves starting them immediately
>team does the old fashioned thing drafting a qb to develop them over a few years behind a future hofer/proven veteran
>NOOOO ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED WHY DID YOU DO THE THING WE ASKED FOR?????

Penix will be the only qb from this class to win a ring
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>>140383778
yeah, three all-pros to start your career is just horrible. terminal fucking madden brain over here stuck in the 2000s who probably thinks that 4-3 and 3-4 defenses are still a thing
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>>140383738
>2026
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>>140383861
oh i'm talking about if they cut him before the start of his 3rd season. He's still making a good majority of his money even though he'd only have played through half of his contract.
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Your team will do great this next season :)
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>>140383871
He failed his melanin evaluation
>>140383901
Imagine this being your conclusion as a falcons fan
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>dook poopchute
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>>140383846
He'll be at $411,000,000 at the end of his current contract.
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Falcons knew the Cowboys wanted Penix so they took him to trade him off next year once Dak leaves.
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>>140383798
Maybe the MILFs that vacation there
Women that live there look like they're 45 by the time they're 35
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>>140383912
He has 100M in guarantees period.
They can get away with 90M guaranteed if they cut him before he starts next season.
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>>140383824
I could've swore Barton was drafted already but I hope they get one of them. We need another guard and tackle.
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>>140383921
Mahomes is already top 20. The fuck? He's only played 7 seasons.
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>>140383871

He's getting the reverse Lamar Jackson treatment kek
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>>140383738
>Michael Peenis might not start an NFL game until he's 28 or 29 years old
lol
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>>140383866
>$300 million career earnings
>1 career playoff win
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>>140383871
I'm surprised any CBs went 1st round at all, they are already 2nd class citizens
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>>140383901

The reaction is absurd. It's like a psy op and the redditors are taking the bait. At worst it's a bit of an overpay but logically it makes sense.
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>>140383927

They wouldn't get anything in return that equals or exceeds the #8 pick. They aren't trading Penix.
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>>140383901
People gave the Lions shit for drafting Hendon Hooker in the 3rd, and they have goof. Its always going to happen.
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>>140383891
>>140383917
>>140383949
Ok but what's the actual, non-meme reason?
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>>140383921

>Deshaun Watson
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>>140383981

Sometimes, anon, the teams really do just follow natural human nature and people probably feel a white CB is a risk
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>>140383981
He can only play zone is the non-meme reason. Him being white is definitely a real reason, though. NFL has always been racist towards white skill position players.
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>>140383981
anyone who wanted to draft a corner in the first of a draft with a record setting amount of offensive guys taken wanted to take a corner that wasnt maybe a safety maybe a corner
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>>140383981
That’s it. It honestly is. Imagine being the team that drafted a white DB. That’s Urban signing Tebow levels of disaster if he doesn’t immediately pan out
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Zach Wilson taking 10 before Bo Nix got drafted is such a dick move kek
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>There's a weird subsection of Jets fans mad at taking Fashanu, calling him a "backup"
>Throwing around hypotheticals if Garrett gets hurt because we need to get mad
This team was burned last season for (rightfully) not taking offensive line. Now they get burned for...taking offensive line?
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>>140383947
He's set to almost hit $500 mil if he plays out his current contract. But if he doesn't restructure he's going to be severely underpaid compared to the market by then.
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Always remember that Keyshawn Johnson through a fit and got traded because a white WR was better than him on the Jets.
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>>140382367
none of the players at the draft are college players. they take loans from their agent so they can flex, which is why they all go broke
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The college kids make so much money these days that the families no longer have emotional reactions during the draft since their lives have already been changed financially.

These drafts have no SOVL.
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>>140384023
>jewish agents giving out crushing loans to mostly black young men
Why would white people do this?
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>>140383999
>wanted to take a corner that wasn’t maybe a safety maybe a corner
Then why did the Lions take Arnold?
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>>140383866
>great QB
Only statistically. He ain't got that dawg in him. Not clutch when it matters.
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>>140384020
>white WR
Stopped reading there.
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gayleb williams, gayden daniels, blow dicks, gaygay mccarthy, michael penis jr, fake gaye lmao haha
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>>140384011
new york has to be paying some of that
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Fashnu just sounds like a bust name.
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Test
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>>140384048
kek this really is a bullyable qb class
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>>140384048
gayleb is the only one worthy of the gay-based nickname this year, gotta come up with something else for daniels and maye
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>>140384046
>Wayne Chrebet
>not White
Are you fucking blind?
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>>140383732
Give me the dates of both bud.
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>>140384023
>Caleb Williams NIL deals
>Caleb Williams' annual valuation stands at $2.7 million, which constitutes his $860K NIL value and $1.8 million roster value in 2024
Not NFL type money but he was getting paid
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>>140384020
>>140384046
Wayne Cherbet was awesome. Keyshawn was a primadona diva faggot. Without Wayne, we don't get to see Edelman or any other good WR.
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>>140383981
It’s his vision. He has a bad habit of not looking for the ball after release.
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Redpill me on this gentleman
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>>140384031
In your opinion
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Official Bust Alert Rankings (Bust Risk Higher For Higher Pick)

1. Williams
2. Daniels
3. Nix
4. McCarthy
5. Penix
6. Maye
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Which happens first fellas, the 2020 draft or the 2020 MVP being named?
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>>140384085
nta but dude made almost 3 million last year alone
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>>140384016
People are gonna get mad no matter what. line was the right move imo so maybe old man rodgers has more than a tenth of a second before hes on his ass
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>>140384052
There really is some weird value in a name determining if the guy is going to be a bust. Clelin Ferrell never had a chance.
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>>140384078
look at keyshawn bitching kek
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>>140384048
>michael penis jr
what were his parents thinking?
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>>140384090
This is a actually a perfect list if you reverse it
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>>140384071
>>140384078
>non black WR
>good
You may pick only one and Stafford babies on the Rams don't count.
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>>140384090
1. Williams (only because the stakes are infinitely higher for a #1 pick, I think he'll be good)
2. Penix
3. McCarthy
4. Daniels
5. Nix
6. Maye
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>>140384078
Ed McCaffrey was great for the Broncos. 90s to early 00s had some good white WRs.
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>>140381963
The Falcons have won the penis game for the rest of time
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>>140384107
So? He earned it
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>>140384071
Whites don't have this skin color. He's mixed.
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>>140384020
Keyshawn is a known piece of shit
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>>140384090
>>140384128
>Maye least bust risk
what are you guys smoking?
He's got the prototypical QB qualities, but he's still a project QB with flaky fundamentals and happy feet
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>>140384083
good feet
run blocks good
pass blocks ok
he's such a kubiak OL. I was sure it was going to be him or Fautanu when the saints picked.
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>>140384138
Who the fuck said he didn't?
Probably sold a shitload of tickets, concessions, and gear for USC
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>>140384152
He's a project but not a major one. If you look at him Allen and Herbert coming out of college he's a lot closer to Herbert.
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joe alt right
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>>140384181
Delete this racist shit
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>>140384152
B-B-BUT HE'S LE WHITERONI!
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>>140384152
It's relative. The rest of the class has questions too. The only high floor guy is Nix but he's also very low ceiling.
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>>140384176
Even then, both of those QBs landed in better situations than New England is currently.
Who even is their #1 and #2 receivers
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>>140384216
>>140384216
>>140384216
New
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>>140384200
KJ Osborn and Kendrick Bourne kek
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>>140383707
This nigga out there having photo shoots wearing them Gangstalicious clothes
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>>140384181
It's like you handcrafted a player for Harbaugh
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>>140384018
He became the first QB in history to win while being the largest cap hit. Surely there must be a reason why no QB wins when they're making that much money. If he's serious about catching Brady he should take less. Best case scenario he doesn't alter that contract and gets underpaid for the remainder of the contract.
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>>140384200
Most of the good QB analysts had Drake Maye as the best QB in the class but not even he's good enough to make it on a rebuilding team like the Patriots. Whatever QB that went there was automatically screwed
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>>140382387
was that his 7th or 8th year?
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>>140381963
>penis
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why did the raiders draft another TE when the rest of their team is terrible?



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