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good guys won today
>>153385498>rockets >suns>good guys
>>153385503clippers will always be more evil then the rockets since they are in LA, and its not even the harden rockets.suns haven't been bad guys since 2022. now we just pity them
my nuggies are sinking!
what came of the french kid the hawks drafted at #1
>>153385516He is currently saving Banchero's legacy by being the most ass #1 pick in recent years.
>>153385521that guy is probably a lakers fan. his team just buys their championships. that franchise last good pick was Kobe Bryant and he was technically traded to them on draft night. lakers also suck at developing players
>>153385516being sandwiched in-between Wemby and Flagg must be painful as a hawks fan.
Nuggers have the hardest remaining schedule
>14 games on todayis this necessary?
>>153385527The Lakers didn't draft Kobe you retard
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>>153385539Caruso would look better if he shaved that side fuzz. That shit looks retarded.
>>153385527Cry more faggot. The Lakers all time greats beats a team of the 29 other teams' greats. Lakers are the premiere franchise in all sports
>NBA europe
>>153385590Imagine playing for the Rome NBA Europe team and you look up in the stands and the fucking Pope is watching the game.
>>153385484There's already an old thread, retard.Recycle>>153376880>>153376880
>>153385597WHY are the toppings under the sauce, your excellency?
>>153385509>Shooker>good guyNo faggot. As long as that pussy is on the team they aren't the good guys.
Bron bros... i dont feel to good
wemby coulda had 100 tonight. fuck mitch johnson.
>>153385710It's always the ones you suspect least
>>153385730Lakeshits fault for not keeping it close, no stars play when up 30
yo im ballin
>>153385710rip yecant believe he was depressed
imagine drafting jeremy sochan in an expansion draft lmao
>>153385710Kanye needs to find Mel Gibson and hook up with them, those two niggas are the most vindicated people in the entertainment industry right now.
As soon as jokebitch comes back nuggers go on a losing streak
>>153385767ye needs to stop hooking up with men
nba is the only sports league where people who aren't even injured are allowed to sit out games. what are these bitches even paid millions for? you owe us your body
>>153386139>where people who aren't even injured are allowed to sit out games.is it truly?
wemby would have scored 100+ tonight.
How about this dogshit league put westbrook, kd, and harden on the same team and then put lebron and kyrie on the wizards with ad
Want to see cam thomas get embarrassed again tomorrow
>>153386139>you owe us your bodyunless youre Portland
How is VORP even calculated again?
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>>153386213I enjoy his attitude because he feels like he has real hate and real desire to dominate and humiliate teams.
>>153386284>VORP - Value Over Replacement Player (available since the 1973-74 season in the NBA); a box score estimate of the points per 100 TEAM possessions that a player contributed above a replacement-level (-2.0) player, translated to an average team and prorated to an 82-game season. Multiply by 2.70 to convert to wins over replacement. Please see the article About Box Plus/Minus (BPM) for more information.Its gay as fuck, to make it simple.
>>153386213He played well. He has a +- of 298 this season, whereas doncic IQ +29. So you could say that wembanyama impacts the game 10x as much as doncic does
>>153386348It's because Wemby actually plays fucking defense, and really elite defense at that. Everybody always forgets about defense until it actually matters.
>>153386284Convoluted box score metric. It’s cumulative though, so if Deni plays as many games as Dame did then he’ll probably end up with a higher VORP
>>153386360It’s also because Luka has to play with Bron
>>153386324>>153386365>It’s cumulative thoughYeah, that's what I was missing thanks. Do we know what the best aggregate stat is now? Apparently it's EPM but it feels flawed, it's pretty bullshit that Kawhi is this high when it makes literally no sense. Also, lol Jimmy.
>>153386403Kawhi isn't actually that high, you're looking at the expected EPM, not the actual EPM.
>>153386403i look at elbow touches now. if they aint touch elbows, they aint seeing the floor
>>153386403EPM is better than VORP and BPM because it uses +/- data as well as simple box score data. I dont really like it either though. RAPM is the best metric imo because it ignores the box score completely and just uses thousands of possessions of adjusted +/- data, so it rightfully credits players like Steven Adams, Derrick White, and Caruso in a way that box score stats don’t.
ayton is a piece of shit and is at 4 elbow touches on average. jokic is an elbow touching merchant
top ten in touches with elbow touches next to it. jokic fights for his buckets
>next gen statplayers who cross their feet while defending
>>153386496What the fuck is elbow touches
Why did the hornets trade colin sexton, they were on a massive win streak vs the best teams in the nba
>>153386709due, seriously?
>I don't get it, i keep adding white guys and we keep getting worse
its crazy how every team needs a white boy center
>>153386724No seriously what the fuck does that mean. Is it including the paint or is is lt literally just at that one spot.
JJ really made a team full of players that look and play like him
>>153386815thinking just the elbows.
>>153386850Literally no one on the team can shoot kek
>wings>guards>big men>>153386850and got the softest centers in the league lol
>>153386880So if someone rubs through the middle of the free throw line or the side 1 ft away from the elbow to get to the basket it doesnt count. What a stupid fucking stat
>>153387002>make basketball baseball>someone rubs through the middle of the free throw linelets call that a drive. ive attached drives, and front court touches.
fuck the knicks
>>153387205compared to 2015-16. these guys are carrying the ball and "losing a dribble". time to have the bitch refs blow the whistle
>>153386589KEK
>>153389265Spoilers bro
is wemby the only french player to be immune to the french curse? (being a soft bitch)
>>153389882>7'5>takes more middies than rim attemptsSoft
Rolling for Wemby broken knee and career ending injury The day his legs give out ill celebrate with a St Arnold
>>153390088You've done itHH
>>153386213it's hard to score 100 because he popped off too hard so the lakers were getting blown out so now if u go for 100 ur a faggotor if ur getting blown out and u go for it like devin booker, then ur also a faggotor if u score 34 in the first quarter in a competitive game but ur a white guy that's illegal and ur own team stops you like kevin love
>>153390088Damn
>The Pistons' top-two centers have been suspended for fighting: Isaiah Stewart is suspended seven games, and Jalen Duren is suspended two games, the league announced Wednesday, hours before the Pistons' final game before the All-Star break against the Toronto Raptors.
>>153385484grant hill before the injurycoulda been one of the greatest everhe was a triple double threat in the 90s bro, that's when everythnign was stacked against that type of threat, it wasn't liket odaylegit legit superstar before the injury me and my cousin used to play nba live, and that was when king of the hill was brand new, and when the announcer in nba live said grant hill we would say "peggy hill" in a funny accent soa little story without a point but, those were good days. infinite hope, the future was bright. if only i grew up with papers i would've had the best life. better tahan any of you fucking drooling retards that's for sure.
#thankyou
Is he right?But what are we doing with lightskin players?Team Black? Team White? Lightskin Team? Lightskin draft?
>>153390806He was never gonna have MJ/Kobe DNA, but he could have been the Scottie Pippen of the 2000’s if healthy. He was basically Iguodala with much more elite offensive traits. Guys like Penny and Grant Hill, their games would’ve suited the modern game better considering the success of guys like Avdija and Jalen Johnson.
>>153386492>so it rightfully credits players like Steven Adams, Derrick White, and Caruso in a way that box score stats don’t.Lol youre just a confirmation biasing retard. Kill yourself. Retards like this are hilariousz because they never even read.Dumbfucking retards. I atleast did the due dilligence to read why EPM exists, and they directly dispel this retardation. Youre a dumb fucking retard that doesnt even understand plus minus as much as the EPM creators. Kill yourself.
>>153390842lightskin allstars would dominate, think on it now. steph, wemby, lavine...
In public lightskins have to claim to be black. In private they want to be as far away from draymond green blacks as possible.
>LeBron will not make his 22nd straight All-NBA team after missing his 18th game of the season, officially disqualifying him from the award. He did that shit on purpose. He wasn’t making it anyways. Now all the Klutch propagandists can use his missed game as a crutch. Somehow still qualified for All-Star though when Reaves has easily been a more important Laker this season
>>153390850>He was never gonna have MJ/Kobe DNABroy had it
>>153390850no way bro he was mj/kobe level bro you dont understand a triple threat like that, meaning points boards assists, that was like fucking...magic johnson level man this guy was gonna be one of the greatest ever toplay no one was doing that shit then but yeah hill and penny would've cleaned up today. hill would be averaglinge like 30/10/10, penny would be dropping 40-50 a game
>>153390806Kino slavic childhood
>>153390872>dominate>lavine
>>153390842The white players would feel guilty for trying. Besides Jokic maybe.
>>153390992Yes Roy one of the most underrated ever >>153390995You obviously don’t understand basketball if you think filling up the stat sheet is THAT important. If I remember correctly, those stats didn’t mean shit because the Pistons were never competitive. Hill wasn’t nearly the defender of a Pippen/MJ. Wasn’t as explosive of a scorer as MJ/Kobe. He wasn’t as powerful or explosive (or big) as LeBron. Was Grant Hill an incredibly talented all-around player? Sure. Not arguing that. But he wasn’t on some All-Time trajectory like you are implying
>>153390842>>153391069Jokic and Luka are shamefully bad in all star games. I've never seen so many missed layups as watching Luka in the all star game the last 3 years.
>>153390856Then you probably didn't understand what you read. EPM is literally designed to predict RAPM; the creators of EPM concede that multi-year RAPM is best metric for valuing impact. The point of EPM is that it's the best predictor of multi-year RAPM with only a single season's data, because the +/- data over a single season can be noisy, so the box score data is there to stabilise it. You're retarded and should go back to posting transcripts of Thinking Basketball videos about Curry, that was easier to ignore.
>>153390842whites vs blacks would be awesome purely from an entertainment standpoint. sadly it would likely also cause a civil war/riots/protests because people don't know how to behave
>>153391110the East wouldve shaped out differently. Duncan almost left the Spurs in the early 2000's for Orlando. A lot wouldve changed with 10-12 straight 60 game seasons of hill
remember when coming into all-star event was exciting? Nobody cares anymore, game is gone, excitement is gone, 4chan is fucking gone with these bullshit captchas
Imagine needing to "save" the all star game. All the best players in the world gathered in one building, but none of them are even pretending to try because they grew up watching LeBron give zero effort and now they think that trying is "cringe". I need one of you LeStans to tell me how this isn't LeBron's fault.
>>153391205>donic/jokic/zubacdont know how blacks beat it>giannis/sga/ant? lool
>>153391273Grant still would’ve been the 3rd option on that Magic team. But probably your best perimeter defender. Team would’ve been competitive enough with Duncan and Mac
>>153391191Retard go kys
>>153391324RAPM is not raw plus minus
Meal
>>153391191Kek, actual dumbfuck just saying things with zero basis, or understanding of stats.>because the +/- data over a single season can be noisy, so the box score data is there to stabilise it.Youre an actual fucking retard. You dont even know what this means. Which is why you just repeat shit I could here from AI, you have no real human experience, or critical capacity for anything its why you cant produce reasons. Youre a retarded bot. Kill yourself immediately. I will be praying for your death, subhuman retards like you that cant think, but yet posture as knowing or understanding more than they do, should be wiped from the earth.
>>153391355>didn't read the about section>claimed to read the about section>got called out>had a reddit-spaced meltdown
>>153391343>>153391382Kill yourself subhuman retard.Fucking imbecil, so many subhumans on this earth. Afforded too much ability to speak when they shouldnt.Imagine insulting somebody for differing to somebody more intelligent and experienced with the field, so much so that theyve created their own statistical profiles. Youre an actual worthless subhuman. People like you, being allowed to even produce thought, as if that thought it meaningful, should be razed. Its the exact equivalent of allowing AI slop to produce anything simply because it can. Not realizing how garbage produced by something without the capacity for self awareness bolstered critical thought, dilutes every other thought.
LePooper Flames
>>153390850 >considering the success of guys like Avdija and Jalen Johnson.nigga who?
>>153391473The point of the SPM is to predict multi-year RAPM...
>Stephon Castle is confident the pelvic contusion he suffered in the first half won’t keep him out long. >If Castle has his way, he would be back on the court Wednesday at Golden State. “I’m hoping to play,” he said.>It is likely the Spurs choose to hold Castle out Wednesday out of an abundance of caution.
CeltGODs thread btw
How come speed skaters have such massive thighs. It’s weird
>>153391280gay ass Dwayne Wade broke Kobe's nose in the ASG in 2012 he deserves the blame
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>>153390969truth nuke - but if it weren't for the future stars game his streak would've ended at least 8 years ago
>>153391697BASED
>>153391868is it weird? or does it just make you feel weird?
>>153385484this matchup used to mean something man
>>153392043It’s weird as fuck. There is literally no reason to have thighs that big
>>153392135have you seen their sport? you sound like a couch athlete, understand your body movements lol
>>153391868>>153392135>30 olympic threads in the catalog >this nigga in here talking about mens thighs
>Currjeet having another meltdown
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>>153392216How is it my fault? NBC is the one putting giant unnecessary men’s thighs in my face while I’m just trying to watch sports. Tell them to cut it out, I’m the victim here
Is NBA the only league where the fans overwhelmingly hate the product and the players? There was a post somebody linked from r3ddit that was #1 on the front page titled "NBA is the worst event attend live" and most people here will agree
>>153392409>actively shit talking the product while consuming it religiouslyyeah i can think of one other "league" where that happens
>>153392409i watch sports knowing these athletes are nothing to the peak ive already witnessed. SPIT
>>153391697'fraid so
>>153392409every sport is like that nowadays particularly in online discourse. You probably don't pay attention but you can barely talk about the nfl without people bringing up how pussified and rigged it is
>>153392070GSW is 2-0 vs the spurs this season
>>153392526NFL is pretty bad but that's a referee issue. People will like the players and the game itself. They don't spam the same fucking play over and over like NBA
Bronny’s development into a viable bench player deserves its own documentary
>>153392476No NBA lost most of their hardcore fans. Only zoomers still watch this garbage league
>>153391697TRVKE
>>153392777Checked. He can't wait for his old man to retire so he can go back to gaming. Basketball isnt cool anymore.
>BPMNikola Jokić 15.8Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 11.8Victor Wembanyama 8.9Luka Dončić 8.1Kawhi Leonard 8>CPMNikola Jokić 8.4Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 7.8Victor Wembanyama 7.1Kawhi Leonard 6.1Giannis Antetokounmpo 6.1>CrownNikola Jokić 86.6Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 82.3Giannis Antetokounmpo 77.3Kawhi Leonard 72.9Donovan Mitchell 70.9>DPMNikola Jokić 6.7Kawhi Leonard 6.2Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 6.1Giannis Antetokounmpo 6Donovan Mitchell 5.4>DRIPNikola Jokić 6.74Kawhi Leonard 5.37Luka Dončić 5.24Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 5.04Jimmy Butler 4.83>EPM ActualShai Gilgeous-Alexander 9.5Nikola Jokić 9.5Giannis Antetokounmpo 7.8Victor Wembanyama 6.6Ty Jerome 6.6>Global RatingShai Gilgeous-Alexander 29.25Luka Dončić 24.59Tyrese Maxey 24.15Nikola Jokić 24.08Donovan Mitchell 22.76>LEBRONNikola Jokić 6.73Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 6.51Victor Wembanyama 5.77Cade Cunningham 5.55Kawhi Leonard 4.96>LeverageNikola Jokić 4.41Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 3.64Jamal Murray 2.86Luka Dončić 2.85Tyrese Maxey 2.74>Net Points Per 100 PossessionsShai Gilgeous-Alexander 10.2Nikola Jokić 8.8Kawhi Leonard 6.5Victor Wembanyama 5.9Luka Dončić 5.8>PIENikola Jokić 22.7Giannis Antetokounmpo 21.8Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 20.9Victor Wembanyama 20Ty Jerome 19.7>RAPM Time DecayNikola Jokić 7.9Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 6.8Giannis Antetokounmpo 6.2Kawhi Leonard 5.8Chet Holmgren 5.5>xRAPMShai Gilgeous-Alexander 9.8Nikola Jokić 8.6Victor Wembanyama 7Luka Dončić 6.1Giannis Antetokounmpo 6
>>153392917https://basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2026_advanced.htmlhttps://craftednba.com/player-statshttps://dynatyze.com/basketball/playershttps://apanalytics.shinyapps.io/DARKOhttps://theanalyst.com/articles/nba-stats-and-player-projectionshttps://dunksandthrees.com/epm/actualhttps://hoopshype.com/rankings/playershttps://bball-index.com/lebron-applicationhttps://nba.com/inside-the-game/player/leveragehttps://espnanalytics.com/nba-net-pts100https://nba.com/stats/players/advanced?CF=MIN*GE*15&sort=PIEhttps://nbarapm.com/datasets/comphttps://xrapm.com
you ever notice how 1 hot dog isn't enough, but 2 hot dogs is too much
>>153391697we in here
>>153392917>>RAPM Time Decay>Nikola Jokić 7.9>Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 6.8>Giannis Antetokounmpo 6.2>Kawhi Leonard 5.8>Chet Holmgren 5.5Uh... Wembros...
>>153392958I wish Kerr would have let Gaytum play more so we could see more shit like this LMAO
>>153385710>can't be controlled>literally seen force feeding some jew to get his fashion line goingJust get this nigga back on his meds and throw him in a studio. He's a fucking idiot outside of that and full of shit.
For me, its Vilt Cemberlen.
they purged the unrivaled general so another soccer thread could exist :(
They took Ace Bailey 5th kek
>>153393109>med sick Dz on sonShakespeare was wrong someone's entire life story can be packaged in their name
I watched part of the game, he played almost all of the second so this isn't garbage time. Bronny is the best player on the Lakers team who isn't named LeBron
>>153392917>Ty Jerome 6.6Dude....what the fuck haha, I might literally never ever trust stats again, this dude just came off an injury and has played like what? 3 games? How does your stupid statistical profile trained on thousands of games since 2002 not account for that?I'll give the benefit of the doubt and just assume this isnt real and that this anon is trolling with the Ty Jerome inclusion, and its supposed to be someone else (who id probably disagree with anyway but would be more acceptable)
>>153393428Lmao
>>153393109For me, it's Medsick Johnson
