Imagine bringing a Nazi flag to the World Cup.The Japanese brought the rising sun flag of the imperial Japanese war criminals to the World Cup stadium.
>>155813918ok
>>155813918Imagine having one shot at life and being born a K*rean
no way.... day? ruinedfaith in humanity?lostseriously I hate racists so muchI'm going out right now I'm going to PUNCH A NAZI!!!!!
forced memefuck you redditor
>>155813918Shut up you fucking kike.
Japan isn't nazi
Dive into the sea of japan.
>>155813918kek will chinamen ever stop being butthurt at japan?i wonder how mad they are that the entire world loves them just because of animu
>>155815675*East SeaAlso *Docdo
>>155813918Isn't the rising sun flag still the flag of the Japanese navy (sorry "naval self defense force")?
>>155819049the naval ensign is offset, the imperial flag is centred.
>>155813918The japanese never accpect their war crimes. I could be wrong doe i wont google it
>>155813918>lazy Twitter screencap bait no.4810573728
>>155822258Nope, always denied it, from Nan-jing to Manilla, never happened, CHUD.
>>155813918>chinese rando seething when they're not even in the wcThey just find new ways to be madAshamed of nothing, offended by everything
>>155813918I'm gonna level with you Kim, I like the nip Nazi flag more than I like your country
>>155813918The Rising Sun flag is a Japanese cultural symbol. It has nothing to do with nazis or war crimes. That twitter account is a CCP propagandist.
>>155814060Could've been worse
>>155813918Nippon Ichiban
>>155819049>>155819175
>>155822258>>155822344what war crimes?
>>155813918
>>155822258>le war crimesIt's only a war crime when you loseAnd we've been bankrolling a murderous ethnostate for decades who has committed and continues to commit every war crime in the book so we have no higher ground than the nips
You guys know this is the same fag concern trolling on here for weeks and on /int/ and /pol/ for years right
>>155822636what ethnostate?
>>155813918>the chinese are still offendedKEK
>>155822709Isn'treal
>>155822258For obvious reasons...We never accepted ours in Paraguay either.
>>155813918Japanese Navy was based and the only trve rival to 1940s America in the air and at sea. It's also still their naval flag. No era penal.
>>155822461Good but make it the other way around.
>>155813918Unlike the Nazi flag, the Rising Sun flag isn't tied to any political ideology. Also the attrocities of the Empire of Japan were commited by military officers doing stuff at their own will. The government was either disregarded or afraid to not rubber stamp their decisions out of fear of being couped by yet another sect of radicals
>>155822258>be Korea>meet with Japan in 1965>J: ok this bilateral treaty is a culmination of 15 years' discussion, we apologize for the Korean forced sex labor in WWII and give you $800M in economic aid/reparations, which is 1.5 times your national budget, deal?>K: deal>J: we can directly give this money to the victims' families if you want>K: nah we accept it on their behalf>blow most of it on infrastructure, come back decades later>K: hey Jap pay reparations>J: wtf we already settled that, fuck off>K: REEE JAPAN BEING RACIST REEE BUILD COMFORT WOMEN STATUES>meet with Japan in 2015>J: ok we give $9M to a foundation in Seoul for helping comfort women, deal?>K: deal>new president takes office in 2017, shuts down foundation>K: hey Jap pay reparations and make your companies pay too>J: fuck off, also your companies are importing/re-exporting goods from us to North Korea who can use them to build weapons, investigate and give us data>K: REEE JAPAN BEING RACIST REEE>J: ok we'll do the investigations ourselves, but meanwhile you're off our white list for trade partners>K: REEE JAPAN BEING RACIST REEEYou see this is why admitting to war crimes is a bad idea.. the "victims" will deny that it happened, ironically enough, and keep coming back to demand money
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>>155822258Same as us, there's no war in Paraguay
>>155813918Fascist Spain and Fascist Japan get completely ignored for some reason Unironically the only time I heard of Franco discourse was Barca and Real Madrid fans arguing if Franco was a Real Madrid or Athletico Madrid fan. Just using him as a gotcha than discussing any real historical relevance
>>155813918>noooo you have to hate yourself(except if you're black or jewish), noooooNIPPON I... I kneel
>>155823279>Fascist Japan get completely ignored for some reason>flagYou're not fooling anyone Zhang
Banzai
>>155813918who cares?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRZmitOgPhk
>>155822410Sure, the flag of the rising sun has nothing to do with war crimes, just like how the nazi flag has nothing to do with war crimes, too. They both just happened to be the flags carried in the hands of those who committed the war crimes. Just as the nazi flag came to represent ww2 era german government, the rising sun flag came to represent ww2 era japanese government, regardless of how you may wish to twist, skew or contort this fact. the flag of the rising sun and imperial japanese conduct in ww2 are virtually inseparable in the eyes of most of the world and i dont think i need to explain to you why. and so therefore, when it continues to be flown in the modern day, its only natural that people see it as (at the very least) downplaying the atrocities committed by imperial japanese in ww2, or just outright denying them. absolutely awful argument, stop simping for this bullshit
>>155822461Why would a Japanese anon agree to this? She has had bbc in her mouth
>>155823279El Caudo
>>155822258Never happened but it should have
>>155823342Oh come on I am not even East Asian. You have to blind to see compared to Italy and Germany, Japan and Spain fascist past don’t get brought up
>>155822461Que puto asco
I imagined bringing a Nazi flag to the stadiumAnd realized it has nothing to do with OP, OP picture or anything you relate the post to
>>155823393Why would she do that? She was literally worshipped in nipland
>>155823373Except that the Nazi flag was 100% tied to the Nazi party, it was a totally new flag that they invented and even put the symbol of their ideology in it, kinda like commies
>>155823279no one gives a fuck unless the vast majority of victims are either black or jewish. that's just how it goes, dummy. you don't see the chinese dedicating museums to the millions of their own lost to the famines of the 50s either, do you?
>>155823244nobody cares if you admit or not mono. Brazil is not relevant.
>>155823576Chinese absolutely do get taught of Japanese war crimes which is why there is still a sense of national pride for China and hatred of Japanese. I think it’s cringe to hate people that had nothing to do with said war crimes but to say nobody cares is really dense of you
>>155823435>compared to Italybro NOBODY brings up fascist Italy. Nobody. People bring up Nanking and 731 and Korean colonialism all the time, and you know why? Because Koreans and Chinese won't stop kvetching about it, just like Jews won't stop kvetching about the Holocaust. Mediterranean and north Africans don't kvetch about Mussolini because they have far less cultural power and they also realize invoking him won't distract from their modern problems
>>155823682Did you graduate high school? Mussolini history got taught a lot in Canada in history classes
>>155823802Learning about it in school and hearing it brought up IRL/online are very different things ZHANG.Look at you moving those goalposts
i love our Chinese sisters. we are so similar. the Japs have done well for themselves this century opening up to the West first after watching China getting screwed by the sly evil Westoids but i'm glad to be alive to witness the Chinese century. i predict the Japs will go the way of the Greeks, of course the Japs aren't no where near on the level of Influence the Greeks had on the west but the tranime debauchery will never go away so that will be their contribution and legacy to the world. but man will it be interesting to watch what China does this century.
>>155823145Ships, jets, and tanks look so fucking amazing, I love them.
>>155823279Facist Siam/Thailand gets completely ignored, since no one knows that they went fascist and joined the Axis in WW2.
>>155823883You’re telling me 99% of American population don’t know who Mussolini is when the rest of the world does? How low is burger education?
>>155824027>canuck thinks 6 years of holocaust class is a internet joke
>>155823538My point is that this doesn't matter, though. What matters is that they carried that flag while committing warcrimes and so it naturally has been tarred by that awful reputation. Regardless of its origins, the world sees it as an extension of imperial japanese cruelty and their government has made NO attempts to rectify this, instead stubbornly doubling down and admitting no fault. it's pitiful.
>>155824094It’s basic knowledge…
>>155824027>still moving goalpostsI'm sure my average fellow mutt on the street knows Mussolini is. But again they DON'T BRING HIM UP because nobody gives a shit about the places he fucked up in WW2, not even the people living there today. Unlike YOU Zhang, and the koreans and the jewish
>>155823373Every army on Earth commits war crimes. Every single one. I am not condoning it, but it happens. And it happens more when the armies get desperate and the war goes long, and WW2 got very desperate and was long enough. Pretending this shit doesn't happen is just one of the faggy things that happens in the faggy modern world, war is hell and it makes people do horrific things and people should accept that.
>>155824188Yes they do bring it up. People joke especially with Lazio and the grandson there
>>155824102I see through you Zhang. I know how many of you insect students there are in England.
>>155822258war is hell. their only crime is losing.
>>155823373>when it continues to be flown in the modern day, its only natural that people see it as (at the very least) downplaying the atrocitiesBongfriend half of >our government openly has the Israel flag in their offices despite them being convicted of genocide by UN and two international courts, despite them bombing hospitals and Red Cross and journos. And they keep justifying it by pointing to those historical atrocities as a cover. Everyone is fucking over this charade. It turns out that so-called atrocities don't matter all that much when you're the "good guys" or can control the media to say as much
>>155824220These were no ordinary warcrimes my friend. If you are unaware of the exceptional nature of their warcrimes during WW2 I would advise you to research further, beginning with unit 731, i guess. >>155824272nope, im not even asian for that matter.>>155824518regardless of the legitimacy of your claims, it doesnt make those historical atrocities any less prevalent. it just shows those politicians you mentioned are untrustworthy.and dishonest.
>>155824856>the exceptional nature of their warcrimes during WW2>the exceptional naturekek get a load of this guy. We sprayed half of Vietnam with plant killing chemicals that still result in babies born without eyes and limbs TO THIS DAY. We also pardoned those 731 scientists you love bringing up so much because we bought their bioweapon research data and tried to use it, again in Vietnam. We are as fucked up as those nips were
>>155824102The problem in your point is that...>the rising sun flag came to represent ww2 era japanese government>the flag of the rising sun and imperial japanese conduct in ww2 are virtually inseparable in the eyes of most of the world...this is not really true outside of Korean and Chinese propaganda. To the rest of the world the Rising Sun flag is just a piece of Japanese culture like sushi or sumo.>What matters is that they carried that flag while committing warcrimes The American flag has been carried while their soldiers commited an awful ammount of war crimes including two nuclear bombings and nobody is going to say it's a hate flag instead of just a flag that has been used by multiple different governments and types of people
>>155814060It could be so much worse, you could be born in India lmao
>>155813918Nips committed no war crimes in Korea but they should have.
>>155822410just like the rebel flag simply stands for southern pride and individual liberty in the face of government authority.
>>155823005they had the firepower but not the capacity to maintain it. the Yamato was individually better than the Arizona, but we could build a dozen Arizona replacements whereas Japan could not replace the Yamato. that inability to maintain their war machine is both why the started the war and why they lost it.
>>155825440To be fair, people who hate on the Confederate flag are just as cringe and disgusting as people who hate on the rising sun flag. In fact, they're often the same people.
>>155823435Franco doesn't get brought up (outside of Spain) because the west allied with him after the war to keep the communists out of power in Spain. in Spain Franco is pretty much considered a second Hitler.
Phew
>>155822636So which is it? Is it only a war crime when you lose or is Israel committing war crimes?
>>155825111we got Agent Orange from the British, who developed and extensively used it during the Malayan Emergency. curious how nobody ever gives them shit for it
>>155814060I couldn't imagine a life with a penis so small.
>>155825822the majority of people on 4chan crying about Israeli 'war crimes' don't actually care about said war crimes, they simply see an opportunity to undermine Israel's cultural standing and are dogpiling on it by using language they have seen leftists use to effectively shift public opinion. "fight fire with fire", as it were.
>>155825822It's both. Israel is committing war crimes but the media and government refuses to call them as such. They're very quick to pile on when the conflict is decided and the loser is hauled up to a tribunal
>>155813918>Imagine bringing a Nazi flag to the World Cup.I can't because Germans are fucking pussies. How about this flag instead?
>>155825992>they simply see an opportunity to undermine Israel's cultural standingIsrael is doing a really good job of that themselvesAnd it's not just 4chan, everyone knows what's going on now. As much as that reality makes you seethe
>155826104case in point. you think this anon actually cares about third world Muslims dying? you think he actually supports NGOs like the UN and WHO and WEF? absolutely not, I can guarantee he has tabs open on a dozen other boards where he openly advocates for the extermination of nonwhites and any "globohomo shitlib NGO". but because it is expedient in a realpolitik sense right now to support them, he pretends to be on their side purely to take shots at Israel.
Sports is now politic>racism should be allowed>every flag should be allowed
>>155825111yeah id say that's similarly fucked up and atrocious, i wasnt aware of either of those facts until now. still, the crux of what im getting at here is im simply advocating that we as humans shouldn't be so easily tempted to sweep this kinds of matter under the rug, regardless of which group or government performed it.>>155825361>...this is not really true outside of Korean and Chinese propaganda. To the rest of the world the Rising Sun flag is just a piece of Japanese culture like sushi or sumo.perhaps you're right, i would revise my statement about the flag being known for japanese conduct. but it is still obviously known for its association with ww2 imperial japan at the very minimum>nobody is going to say it's a hate flag instead of just a flag that has been used by multiple different governments and types of peoplethe scope of the USA flag is too large to make a fair comparison to that of the rising sun. not only is the USA flag much older and represents far more than the rising sun flag but your entire argument rests on the assumption that people perceive the flag of the rising sun as something more than just WW2 imperial japanese government/army in the eyes of the masses, which they dont.
>>155826389That's a whole lot of words to say "I'm projecting" Levi. Always accusing others of that which you are guilty of
>>155813918>Has Emperor>48 countries playing for World Title>Display Rising Sun because lolcow>Normies can't handle the bantsMany such cases. NEXT
>>155825822They're comfiting war crimes but they're not losing (yet)His logic is consistent, you should read before jumping in to defend your beloved kikes
>155826579and because the original tactic failed, he has taken his mask off and exposed his real motive, thereby proving me right. he doesn't care about Palestinians, he just hates Jews. the funny part is, this slimy dishonest way of arguing is precisely the sort of behavior he says makes Jews subversive poison. he is no different from that which he hates. truly pathetic.
>>155826533>still, the crux of what im getting at here is im simply advocating that we as humans shouldn't be so easily tempted to sweep this kinds of matter under the rug, regardless of which group or government performed it.EVERY ARMY IN THE WORLD PERFORMED IT. EVERY SINGLE ONE. War is bad and causes people to do really, really, really bad things out of desperation. An army can only be noble if they're winning, and winning easily, otherwise they turn to the worst sides of the human condition. We shouldn't hold something against someone 80 years later because their ancestors did terrible things, because if we were forced into it ourselves we would do terrible things too.
>>155826882top kek. This is what losing the argument looks like. He even pulled out the usual "you don't ACTUALLY about Palestine or war crimes, you just want to pick on poor Israel for no reason :("As if his murder state isn't leeching off my fucking tax dollars for everything from healthcare to the bombs they love dropping on babies. Your tricks don't work on anyone anymore Levi
>>155814060I'd go to Europe or America and drown in Koreaboo zoom zoom pussy
>>155826882>he doesn't care about Palestinians, he just hates Jewsand what's the problem with that?
>>155822461>Letting a women who rims nigger asshole spit in your mouthVery gay
>>155827386my issue isn't with hating Jews, I don't care about them. what I don't like is the dishonesty. if you hate Jews, come out and say that, don't sneer and lie through your teeth trying to manipulate me with the equivalent of "won't somebody PLEASE think of the children". that shit works on women, but not on me. have some fucking balls. cowardice and dishonesty are the great evils of humanity.
>>155827547>if you hate Jews, come out and say that, don't sneer and lie through your teeth trying to manipulate me with the equivalent of "won't somebody PLEASE think of the children"It would never occur to this insect that one could sincerely be unhappy about what Israel is doing without jew hate in their hearts. Or perhaps, the jew hate starting BECAUSE of what Israel is doing and then denying it. But no, it's the usual playbook masked with some vague macho talk.Truly fascinating behavior, this. It's the kind of stuff you see from those blue checkmark bots on Xitter. You'd think it's a Mossad agent but surely they could come up with better material
>>155825822Everything is a war crime when you lose.
>>155827715Islam is not your friend. concern trolling is literally a tactic prescribed in Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. you act, think, behave, and are fundamentally indistinguishable from a Marxian Jew. and you're so sobverted that you don't realise it. all you're doing is enabling the behavior you claim to hate.
>>155827832>concern trollingMuslims don't need to be my friend for me to not want my tax money funding your forever wars and mass murder, Levi. It's as simple as that and no amount of /pol/ buzzwords can hide you from the world wising up
The rising sun flag is such a fucking cool design, much better than red dot. Did the treaty they made with the US say they can't have rays of sun anymore?
>>155813918>MonterreyThere, that explains everything .
>>155827929you weren't complaining about Israel receiving American tax money. your original argument was that Israel is evil because of their war crimes against Palestine. you were making a moral argument, not a pragmatic one. this sort of mealy-mouth mott & bailey is also a Jewish debate tactic. once one angle of attack stops working, you seamlessly shift to another. this is the slimy dishonest coward bullshit I was talking about.
>>155828081>you weren't complaining about Israel receiving American tax money. your original argument was that Israel is evil because of their war crimes against PalestineIt's both moral and pragmatic. One enables the other. And for you to pretend otherwise is the pinnacle of slimy intellectual dishonesty. You are truly bad at this Levi, I'm beginning to pity you
>>155828229they're separate topics and you deliberately hid your argument for one so you could switch to it at a later point in the discussion. >no ulol "like an amorphous slime, just when you think you've got your fingers around them they squeeze through your fingers and reform"
>>155827944We don't care. It's their neighbors that get huffy.
>>155828344>they're separate topics and you deliberately hid your argument for oneYou can be in denial all you like Levi. It won't change the reality that Israel is now a global pariah for what they've done and are continuing to do. Your posts in this thread on a sports board of a Chinese cartoons site won't change a single thing
>>155827066>We shouldn't hold something against someone 80 years later because their ancestors did terrible things, because if we were forced into it ourselves we would do terrible things too.Yeah, burdening entire groups of people with feelings of shame or guilt helps nobody and is absolutely not a sane solution. But nevertheless I think it's important for a state to demonstrate accountability for previous poor behavior, no matter what it is, in order to maximise the chance of securing future healthy relationships with affected nations and populaces. If the Nation A feel like they've had a great injustice performed unto them by Nation B, but then Nation B dig their heels in and refuse to comment on their involvement in said injustice, it should be no surprise that their relationship would turn out sour. While you're right, in an ideal world, Nation A wouldn't hold anything against Nation B due to their advanced understanding of human nature, people are not so easily forgiving in circumstances such as these, and so a gesture of accountability would go a long way. That's what I mean by not sweeping things under the rug.
>>155829628Oh shut the fuck up you fucking kike you just hate Japanese people and want to shame them over some fake made up horse shit over 81 years ago to take the ire of zoomers away from Israel and shit.
>>155813918Imperial flag looks cooler.
>>155827944It's Korea and China that get butthurt over it. There were some restrictions on the flag immediately after the occupation began but they were lifted once it became clear there wasn't going to be some sort of guerilla uprising.
>>155828393>an academicAnd here I thought it was just the schizo netizens who were like this
>>155823244underrated post
>>155829723
I don't care about Japan, m'kay?
>Be Korea in 1910>Zero infrastructure, life expectancy is 24, constant famine.>5% Yangban elite exploit everyone. 40% of the population are Nobi (hereditary slaves) treated worse than cattle.Then Japan arrives. Here is the ultimate redpill on the Japanese colonial period (1910-1945), backed by absolute census data:1. ABOLITION OF SLAVERYJapan permanently dismantled the Joseon caste system. The 1909 Civil Registration Act gave surnames and legal human rights to millions of former slaves for the first time.2. MEDICAL REVOLUTION- Life expectancy: Rose from 24 (1906) to 56 (1945).- Infant mortality: Slashed from 300 per 1,000 births to under 150.- Population: Doubled from 13M to 25M+ due to modern hospitals and mandatory vaccines for smallpox/cholera.3. AGRICULTURAL REVOLUTION- Rice production: Doubled from 10M koku to 20M+ koku.- Irrigation: Built 6,000+ reservoirs, modernizing 1.2M hectares of farmland. Famines permanently ended.4. EDUCATION & HANGUL- Schools: Grew from 100 (1910) to 5,213 (1943). Enrollment shot up from <1% to 60%+.- Japan standardized the Hangul script/orthography (1912, 1921, 1930) to print textbooks for the masses.5. INDUSTRIALIZATION- Railroads: Expanded from 640 km to 6,400 km.- Power: Built Supung Dam (1941), then the 3rd largest in the world and largest in Asia.6. PROPERTY RIGHTS- Invested 30M yen to survey 19M land parcels. Created the first land registry so elites could no longer steal land from peasants.7. REFORESTATION- Planted 500,000,000+ trees to fix barren mountains and stop catastrophic flooding.8. RULE OF LAW- Abolished feudal torture/bribery. Established a 3-tier court system and modern banking.Modern Korea didn't spawn from a vacuum. The foundation was built by Japan. Data doesn't lie.
>>155822258>>155822883Woah, kinda rude ngl
>>155830455You also ended China's footbinding madness which most people don't know about
>>155823279Real Madrid is the empire Barcelona are the rebelsEvery Spaniard knows this
>>155824102>their government has made NO attempts to rectify this, instead stubbornly doubling down and admitting no fault. it's pitiful.thats so fucking based though
