We must discuss the awesome power of medieval fantasy's most iconic monster.
>>92472319My dragons are like trap door spiders in the desert. This protects the ethnic group that lives there and givens them an ominous mystique.
>>92475689That's just Dune with extra steps
>only 4 limbsBut that's a wyvern.
elves and dragons are friends (or the elves are enslaved if the dragon is evil)
Is this a "maybe the dragons will return one day" thread or a "how the fuck do we get rid of all these dragons" thread?
>>92477184it's a "fuck the dragons got wise and started lending out some of their hordes in return of interest and now they rule the world" thread
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>>92472319ha! I'd recognize that dragon from anywhere OP.Still one of the biggest mysteries of the first game, just what the fuck is that dragon doing there? There's some speculation because of info in Termina that there might have been Draconic (Dragonic is used as the term verbatim) Blights that would have some relation to Lizardman society since Blights are just New God Lizardmen. So maybe Dragons are also a kind of New God Lizardman? Also the 'Chromatic Blights' might be a reference to D&D Chromatic Dragons. Or something in the Finnish Epic Kalevala. Anyway, I like the idea of Dragons being like a primordial foe of Giants or Gods in ancient history of settings. I just really go for the gigantomacy/titanomachy motif since. It's one of those inheritances from the Greeks we might not even realize is one, but just go to a museum with Classical art and sculpture and you'll see it.
>>92477211I cast Cloudkill.
I created a unique dragon for my homebrew that is half-red half-blue. Not purple, mind you, actually heterochromatic across the scales, the two never mixing. She's got a polymorph ability and uses it to infiltrate the five kingdoms of the region she lairs in to manipulate them for her own ends. Also PROBABLY hated by Tiamat.
>>92479505>Or something in the Finnish Epic Kalevala.Not as far as I know, though there's surprisingly many times the word "kirjava", which could be translated as chromatic (it literally means multicolored or brightly-colored) is used in association with the underworld. Including one mention of a multicolored snake of the underworld in one spell.The salmon snake in the game is an obvious Finnish pun, though, since that's the literal translation of the Finnish word for dragon (though etymologically it seems the current spelling is actually a corruption of an older one, and the original meaning was likely something along the lines of "mountain snake" in old Finnish).
>>92479542>Also PROBABLY hated by TiamatWhat’s her problem with her, does the hybrid worship another god or something?
>>92485272Tiamat is a dragon racist of course. Interracial dragon breeding ticks her off.
I like it when dragons have a government and a parliament. And they get their own bureaucrat dragons, their glowie dragons, and their jannie dragons. They have to do dragon accounting and report their breeding plans to dragon resources. Other nations are lulled into believing they're just another nation, though of dragons, doing dragon diplomacy and dragon trade. You can keep that going for quite a while, before getting to dragon war.
>>92485656I know there are multiple people who have convergently come to the same ideas. It’s only a matter of time before you can use ai to make this dragonocracy worldbuilding concept written down in excruciating visual detail at minute cost.There should be an underclass of young dragons bred in clutches by claws and disowned/sent as tribute to be used as as soldiers & slaves for the dragon-state. Make sure they’re castrated & dewinged, declawed, de-breath attack organ’d if it’s possible. Why nobody touches this concept in dragon kingdoms when they show up is a missed opertuinity.
>>92472319What about monsters that are related to dragons but not considered “true” dragons, like this wyvern, what are your opinions on them? Me, I like to see them as the dragon version of chimpanzees, the closest living non-sapient relatives of true dragons, with some dragons domesticating them, or at least using them to draw away human attention.
Dinosaurs but you call them dragons. Thoughts?
>>92472319Yes, such majestic creatures.
>>92486116>There should be an underclass of young dragons bred in clutches by claws and disowned/sent as tribute to be used as as soldiers & slaves for the dragon-state. Make sure they’re castrated & dewinged, declawed, de-breath attack organ’d if it’s possible.Could be the origin of dragonborn/kobolds/serpentmen/what have you
>>92485350>Tiamat is a dragon racistMy Elven paladin is built for knocking her up
>>92486734That's something I like. It can vary though. The last campaign I ran that was focused on 'dragons' each dragon was a different draconic or serpentine monster. One was a classic Red, another a Wyvern, one a Hydra etc.But most of the time I run other draconics as smart beasts (Wyverns) or servants (Dragonborne). So bog standard.
>>92479542If her scales don’t mix, what about her breath weapon, is it a red dragon’s fire, a blue’s lightning, a mix, or something unique, like plasma or a magic EMP?
>>92472319I prefer my dragons to be expressions of pure elemental fury, remnants from a time primordial when the world was yet untamed and still forming, the power of those forces made flesh and showing in their breath attacks that unleash a portion of the strength of the raw elemental power within, forms, and behaviors, like this Earth dragon having scales effectively made of stone and a breath weapon that shoots out blasts of sand. So, how elemental are your dragons?
Dragons are the kings of beasts. Essentially they are cat bat lizards that breathe fire (or whatever) and can grow to be really big. They do not speak, do not cast spells, are evil, sleep for long periods of time, lay eggs in remote places that can take a very long time to hatch, and prefer to lair in remote wild places or ruins (which they may have caused to be ruins). Dragons have four legs and two wings. They can grow to be huge sized, but at least one dragon from legend was gargantuan.
>>92479994Word might also come from "death snake", louhikäärme -> lohikäärme, and it's suspected Louhi from Kalevala is death goddess that has been turned into human.
>>92487090Well, dinosaur bones reportedly inspired dragon legends, so that can actually work.
>>92472319If you actually want to talk about it have a better opener.
>>92485272Basically >>92485350 I've used a bit of some canon stuff I've picked up from loretubers in my worldbuilding 'cause I think it's cool.>>92493795A mix. She breathes fire and lightning at the same time, mixed together. I think it looks badass.
>>92476779Dune is just King Arthur with extra steps.
What kinds of magical items and tools would a cowardly dragon use to shore up his weaknesses and keep him alive?
>>92503594Disguise tools to appear as another type of dragon with as many weaknesses that the coward resists and as non-overlapping of attacks as possible is a good one to mind-game assailants.
>>92479542That can happen with lobsters
>>92501570Looks? You have art of her? Also, how did her parents meet?
>>92472319Why do your dragons hoard material wealth like gold or silver? Only my male dragons hoard wealth, and they do it as an honest-signal of their fitness, like a peacock or proboscis monkey. Female Dragons are more likely to get weird cravings for something like virgin sacrifices in order to obtain mystic nutrients to lay her eggs.
>>92506779they dontthe ones that lair in ruins might be considered to be "guarding" the ruins and any treasure inside, but thats incidental
>>92506779To catch mortals to eat. Gold doesn't rust so sitting on a pile of shiny baubles mortals love is a ingenious way to keep your tummy full. Also the big snakes like shiny baubles themselves.
>>92508994Wouldn’t the dragon still need to hunt though? There can’t be that many people ready to face a dragon, golden reward or no.
>>92472319What about discussing Dragonborn or other humanoid races with draconic features like Dracthyr in WoW, how do you feel about those?
>>92475689Unironically an awesome idea. I love spiders and the idea of a trapdoor dragon is fucking cool. Yoink!
My dragons are female custodes lol
What are your thoughts on the idea of man-made dragons?
>>92512487Snakes can digest prey for weeks and trust your senses no sane person goes to fight a dragon alone. Do they go hunting? Of course you can't sit in your cave all day.
>>92472319What are good mythical origins for Dragons? One I like is the idea that Gods created Dragons as weapons to use against their enemies, though they proved to be too unruly.
>>92524690I like the idea of them being gatekeepers/guardians made by the gods to keep mortals away from certain things.
>>92524690Regular animals created by God and abused by fallen angels larping as pagan gods with little g's.
In my head, dragons embody power. Humans lust for power.
>>92514964I'm not racist, I just don't like them.
>>92514964>>92527400I think dragonborn are in bad tasteI have "saurians" in my setting as a playable race, basically lizardfolk-lite, but they're asshole lizardmen with claws and a bite, not noble upstanding humans with scales and fire breath
>>92514964I think they make the most sense as a form of transhumanism and not as a naturally occurring race until long after the fact. The best path for them in my opinion would be a case like humans trying to get a leg-up on/fight fire with fire against dragons and thus mimicking their form to kill them better or replace them.
>>92514964I think Dragonborns are fine, I have them originating from a mutation in Dragons that made them that way. Dragons being highly mutatable in my setting which is why there's a billion different Dragon-types running aroundSince Dragons are Apex-Predators that everyone either fears or admires and starts cults around I figure Dragonborns are like the humanoid equivalent of thatKobolds are cool, I dig the humanoid Dragons in general
>>92506454I have no art, I meant when I picture it in my head, sorry. As for her parents, honestly I always pictured her being a direct spawn of Tiamat that managed to slip away before she could be devoured.>>92503997So they can. Though I picture her as being a bit less clean-cut in her looks, more points and whatnot.
>>92472319In the Forgotten Realms, every single race of Dragon should get an alignment pass to kill Elves because of the Dragon Rage spell they cast. Consequently, all dragons should try to learn Autohypnosis 50 because the epic skill check let's you make a check of any mental effect even if it wouldn't otherwise allow one. Thus potentially bypassing their rage. Make it a Gem Dragon plot because they're psionic and it's a psionic skill.
>>92475689That's just Brown and Blue dragons.
I wanna fuck them.
>>92527601Why can't a setting have both?>>92528209Okay, have you ever seen that happen? Also, wings or no wings for them? I say wings.>>92530094What specifically caused the mutation, if anything, and what advantages let them stick around and make a name for themselves? Also, what are some of the cooler Dragon-types that you've made?
>>92536556>Behold the wrath of the great dragon Sparkle Kitty!
>>92472319I’m a big fan of people taming and riding dragons and dragon-like creatures in fantasy, do you like the idea or think that other aerial mounts work better?
>>92539954only the baddest badasses should be riding big dragonsmaybe young dragons can be tamed by badasses in small numbersbut in general, other aerial mounts should be much more commonin my setting its gryphons and wyverns; pegasi only exist as special paladin mounts and hippogriffs dont exit
>>92539954I usually don't like it as it tends to just diminish the dragon both in power and importance and often reduces them to dumb animals.
>>92542081This
>>92487090Today is Velociraptor awareness day
>>92524690My dragons are elemental fury incarnate, the coalesced power of the elements in the primordial world forming primitive life. Dragons became flesh and blood like these other creatures, but still retain an elemental core.
>>92530094>Dragons being highly mutatable in my setting which is why there's a billion different Dragon-types running aroundWhat are some of these types in your setting?
>>92544905Least obvious bumpfaggot post
>>92547047>bump
___ with dragons!
>>92517747Jet dragons are cool
Satisfaction.
>>92548983the dragon promptly sears the flesh from her bones and bites her corpse in half while she screams in mortal agonyand the white knight learns a valuable lesson that day
>>92553148>>92555439>>92558408Bumpfag moment
>>92558475Rent free
>>92558484I accept your concession, LL
Dragons naturally culminate into supreme hedonists and powerfully fragile narcissists. Loathing and thrashing over each other to the top of the natural order only to become bloated with wine, bathed in gold and hoarding value most valuable to those they despise. Degenerating on drugs, pleasure and rituals until the next dragon takes their place. Truly abominable creatures.
>>92558492What concession are you talking about?
>>92558518>Can you elaborate further?You really can't help yourself, can you?
>>92532539The problem is that when you have both, lizardfolk stops being important.
>>92532539wingless
>>92558526I didn't say that, I'm just saying that you're paranoid.Also, I don't know what your goal is with your attitude.
>>92544905
>>92558552>I didn't say thatThat's literally the meaning of what you asked>I'm just saying that you're paranoid.Yet you're typing exactly like bumpfag>I don't know what your goal is with your attitude.To mock and out you yet again.
>>92558617No,no and you are totally crazy.
>>92558670I once again accept your concession, u/LiteraryLord
>>92558704>u/LiteraryLordWho the hell is that guy? Is he the guy who owes you rent?
>>92559166Hey, dragons. Dragon dragon?
>>92559348Can you elaborate further?
>>92559394I don't want to drag-on the conversation.
I just want more stories of badass humans riding their cool as fuck partners into battle.
>>92558475We are all bumping fags, faggot.>>92558484>>>/r/eddit/>>92558492This.>>92558526There's a series of responses only NPCs make.
it baffles me that there's still people who don't know what "bumpfag" refers to.
>>92477164Thats a odd way of pointing out that knife ears are cock sleeves, no matter if for human or reptile cock.
>>92477164Elves are meant to be Catholic and dragon killers. Only the spiritually Turkish have something else to say.>>92559891Dwarves are knife ears.
In 12 years in the hobby not a single one of my groups faced an actual dragon, only a single time we faced a wyvernAlso never faced mindflayers, orcs, goblins or drows
>>92560136Wyverns are dragons.
>>92560122Sandnigger.
>>92560178But not actual/true dragons as D&D and PF classify them, that's why I said actual dragons and not just dragons
>>92560199My elves are Crusaders and my dwarves are pointy-eared. This is how you gatekeep.
>>92560122elves are not idol-worshipping papists
>>92560439Idol veneration is not worship. If the thing is broken, it gets discarded and replaced with a new one.
>>92559810You are very pathetic, redditor.
>>92559882That doesn't exist, it's a conspiracy theory.
>>92561158this is cope
>>92563687Is this a crab or clownfish dragon or something
>>92472319Sexy dragons?
Small and cute.
