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Work in Progress, "Taco Tuesday" Edition

>Full-on /WIP/ OP Links Pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/BE42AEcD

>Saint Duncan's "Six Things I Wish I Knew When I Started Painting"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufP8ka3KGno

>Saint Duncan also explains thinning your paints
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWgsqSf74s

>Paint thinning 102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBDVPoNXyVI

>Darren Latham's 20 top tips for miniature painting success
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERXNObqeNb8

>4 EASY Chipping Tricks For Beginners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku4comhKHJM

>Decal Like a Pro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYKLiEW7p9c

>How to Edge Highlight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoRbYuAfbEk

>How to use contrast style paints
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhholrozptI

>Who's Johnny, she'd say, and smile in her special way
https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Johnny

>Previous threads:
>>92491765
>>92471089
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>>92518159
I've finished painting all the pieces of my Scythed Hierodule, but I'm not sure the best way to actually assemble my new big buddy now. Should I just glue and hold the limbs in place or pin them with something? Maybe green stuff or clay? I'm unsure what the best way to do it would be.
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Windsor & Newton Series 7 brushes are currently on massive sale on Amazon, just bought a size 1 and 00 for around $20 total
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>>92518131
>Do I need a mask when priming with an airbrush? I just got one for priming. What mask do I need?
In general it is a good idea to wear at least a P2 mask if using a Polyurethane primer with an airbrush. Won't kill you if you do it without one but extended sessions without it with those primers can have adverse effects. Make sure to have airflow in the room with doors/windows open. Otherwise regular acrylic paints are fine to use without any sort of mask as they don't have anything in them that is risky, and their particulate is heavier than air anyway. Enamel or alcohol based paints though you want a proper respiratory mask for as they can have some nasty shit come from atomising them via the airbrush.
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>>92518405
Ok thanks
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WIP Gobbo shammy. First time fiddling around with green skin tones, thinking of lightly washing the head of the staff with blue ink.

Unsure on how to make his robe pop besides the usual highlight. Think I might follow GWs rendition and checkerboard his cuffs
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>>92518293
Is the cheap russian kolinsky brush any good? I think it named was Neskaya palitra something
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WIP chaos dreadnought.
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>>92518293
> half off
Interesting but I am skeptical because of all these doomer posts about the quality has been compromised.
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>>92519277
Reminds me of Frank Horrigan
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>>92518653
Looks great, I would agree with the staff it otherwise sort of looks like an axe instead of a magical item.
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>>92518293
Not seeing it, which seller has the sale going? Might be something specific to some countries.
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I used some of my GW layer paints again after mostly using Vallejo for a year. I am straight up not having a good time.
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>>92519950
Are you using a wet palette? In my experience vallejo comes out much more thick so you need the wet palette to give it a good mix, but citadel is much more thinned already, and a wet palette can cause it to get too thin.
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>>92493474
Update. I didn't add the second pupil yet.
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Anyone using this shit yet? How the brush quality? https://www.dspiae.com/productinfo/1027552.html
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Man I thought resin-cast minis were bad, turns out resin-printed minis are even worse.
SO FUCKING BRITTLE HOLY SHIT
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>>92520258
she grew a moustache

>>92520304
that looks a lot like a meme
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>>92517912
That level of coverage is about normal for a first coat. Let it dry and then apply another with a little water to keep the paint from drying on your brush unless you are painting your marines something other than white anyway. If another color usually one coat is enough if the next color is a base paint. If it's a semi transparent layer paint two white coats is best.
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>>92519950
Use a toothpick to stir them and apply a little to your palette, makes them easier to use since gw doesn't use dropper bottles
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>>92518293
I got a series 7 size 1 from Amazon a while back for 10 dollars, it's a decent brush, not as good as my gold series green stuff world brushes but i use it a lot. It was worth the money for sure
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>>92520435
Does primer follow the two thin coats meme too? Wouldn't it be better to just paint over that coat with actual paint you want?
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>>92520304
I used a lot of synthetic brush and they're all feel the same really. Just use whatever cheapest you can find
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>>92520365
Yeah very brittle, I've dropped and run over plenty destroying them, luckily they are cheap. They are a little stronger if you print at .03mm layer height instead if the standard. .05mm and if you turn down the layer exposure time by .02 seconds but especially if you add about a spoonful of flexible resin to whatever you are using to increase the latex rubber percentage but I onlybuse mh build resin because I'm deathly allergic to all other kinds and it's especially brittle so I just deal with it.
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>>92520455
Two thin coats usually unless ypthe nex color is a base color then you can usually get away with one, but you'll get better adhesion with two. Gw base paints are very smooth and don't adhere as well as some other brands so I think two priming coats is best.
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Making a new epic army. Thinking of Chaos space marines.

Dubs decide what warband or legion i choose.
(Mentors for attention)
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>>92520488
Forgot pic
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>>92520455
>Wouldn't it be better to just paint over that coat with actual paint you want?
If your paint has good coverage, then that's the way to go. If your paint's got very weak coverage, then you're best off having a solid, even coat of primer underneath it because otherwise you'll be there forever trying to get rid of the blotchy look
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>>92520488
>>92520499
The Purge. Save the galaxy from itself.
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>>92520365
Largely depends on the resin used. A lot of the basic crap or the plant based/water washable stuff is very garbage. The tougher resins though are tough enough that if dropped it is more likely to break where it is glued rather than the resin itself. Within reason of course as thin bits will always be more susceptible to breakage, but they are least break clean so very easy to just glue back together. Hard to know what you are getting though unless you are printing yourself. If you purchase from 3rd party it is always a gamble.
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>>92520455
>Does primer follow the two thin coats meme too?
To a certain degree, and depends on how it is applied. If by airbrush you generally do multiple coats for durability since the airbrush applies them thin anyway even if the coverage is smooth and opaque. If brushed on you need to use your judgement as you are more likely to end up with unnecessary layers chasing opacity which you don't need. When brushing it on be more concerned with getting enough on that it will act as primer, and if you need opacity then add some layers of regular acrylic after the primer since it runs less risk of gumming up detail but will get you your opacity. Regardless you are going to notice this issue more with light primers than with dark just due to the nature of lighter tones.
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Is metallic paint can be thin with water? Also do i need to thin metallic paint to use it with brush?
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>>92520609
-Yes.
-Depends. Usually less so than normal paint.
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>>92519514

Is it a good or a bad thing?
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>>92520609
It can be. The secret is to always be stirring. Should do that anyway since particles, but metallic paints generally don’t play nice with water, or most other mediums in my experience; they separate quick. Thus, always be stirring. Thinning being necessary, ymmv depending on paint. I roll with Vallejo Metal Color for the most part, which is fairly thin as is and imo you can get away with just brushing that shit on in many cases.
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>>92520609
Yeah metallic paint dries fast so wet your brush and dab it on a moist sponge or moist paper towel before using metallic paint and rewet it and wipe it on the sponge every few strokes, change your water before using a new color so you don't get metal flakes on the new color
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>>92520488
Thousand sons with all dat trim.
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>>92520488
>dubs decide and then he posts dubs twice
Unbelievable. Also emperors children
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>>92520488
night lords
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If wheatfield anon is in the thread, hownlong did this >>92513847 take you?

The coconut mat method the other anon posted is cool for <1:72 scale, but anything over that and it just start to look like, well, a coconut fibre mat.
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Rustoleum flat red on some battlesuits.
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Should I put Yriel Yellow on this? I honestly like the darker yellow over the lighter tone.
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>>92521536
Then why would you?
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>>92521522
>red
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>>92521522
"flat reds" tend to push brown, but that's a bit drastic. Good middle ground if you can't decide if you want Tau Empire or Farsight Enclaves, I guess.
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>>92519968
>>92520443
Paint is properly mixed (agitator ball and vortex mixer) and not thinned more than needed for a smooth application. Citadel Layer is honestly just a trash line that covers like shit
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>>92522078
Yeah no shit. It's literally an intentionally thinned paint sold you at a price of a regular paint(which they somehow call """""BASE"""""") so that you can """"""""""LAYER"""""""" and """""""""HIGHLIGHT"""""""" with it easier in case you're too fucking braindead to add water yourself
anyone unironically defending the citadel rage deserves to be put up aganst the wall
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>>92522167
range*
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>>92522167
Sort of, layer paints are a bit more translucent than bases which helps with using them for glazes.
Not saying they're gods gift or anything, the separation they get is way worse than something like vallejo for instance.
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The Gorm, more like The Gap god fucking dammit, Fucking mother fuck Kingdom Gap Monster
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Anon who was posting blood ravens colour schemes. Are you here?
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>>92522260
even with the gap filled it would look out of place, wtf is that

also get a silicon brush, that gap filling on the leg is a mess
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>>92522260
Jesus christ anon what the fuck are you doing
I can understand some minis having atrocious gaps but your 'filling' is even worse.
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>>92518159
Whats the best solution for adding a red LED to a titan's head? Ideally a blinking one, though not essential if that makes it too big.
What do I plug the LED into and how small can I make it?
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>>92522784
NTA, but it's nothing a little sandpaper won't solve.
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>>92522724
>>92522784
Just putty mix with IPA, its will dry out
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>>92522992
with how textured the model look sanding that blob of putty will ruin some detail
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>>92523236
Use a file to rough out the shapes first.
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>>92522167
You're halfway between being backwards and just being completely wrong.
Layer and base are both regular acrylics. They're not fucking thinned.
The mix of pigments in the base paints are chosen to cover better.

You still shouldn't buy their overpriced pots.
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What are your recipes for DIY washes?
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>>92523578
you desired paint color mix and water, and if you feel fancy a drop of flow improver
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92517912
I bush prime badger stynylrez grey and it looks like that too. The primer only needs to be thin enough to bond, but if you are going to be painting white scars you had better get some spray paint cause it’s gonna suck to do any other way.
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Finally assembled and finished this long-neglected zoanthrope, just need to give base rim another coat of black and varnish.
It was kinda already getting closer to evening outside so mayb the pics arent that good but hopefully you can see him well enough.
Pretty happy with how he looks.
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>>92523710
Life doesn’t need to be this terrible, anon. It can be better, if you choose.
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How do you guys imagine what kind of colors you are going to use on your model? I don't know anything about colors and just follow google picture or other people color schemes. Feel like i'm such a tool, man
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>>92525299
I literally make it up as I go.
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>>92525299
Some basic info to peruse.
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Asking again because last time I got just one answer that really wasnt too helpful
Any of you ever worked with Heroclix? Any advices? I would like to remove the little base they come with or at least modify it since I'll be using it for Faserip
Maybe I just have to change the little paper inside?
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>>92525299
Look for inspiration everywhere. Look to posters, pictures, photos, paintings, album covers, etc. Once you got the basic idea in your noodle you can experiment and see how you want to tweak it to make it yours.
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>>92521476
Took me about an hour to make a strip of 40cm, which gives me the eight 10cm sections.
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>>92518653
For the robes, there's a few ways to do it but the main two are to build it up to a 50% grey or a light blue. I think the GW paint method is usually black to eshin grey to dawnstone to pallid wyche flesh for a neutral tone or black to incubi darkness to thunderhawk blue to fenrisian grey to ulthan grey for a cool tone. Having a warm black just doesn't seem to work well for night goblins.
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>>92525401
Pic for blind ants
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>>92525508
Have a movie as well.
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>>92525433
It depends on if it is an older or newer clix figure. but generally you have a few options
1) Glue some cardstock over the L-shaped hole, flock the base and paint it as-is
2)use some cheap hobby cutters/nippers, place the blades on either side of the rock/platform that is attacked to the base and chop it off of the click base
3)Heat up the model in boiling water with a soup ladle for 30 to 60 seconds to make the plastic malleable and pry it off with a small flathead screwdriver
4)same as option 2 but once the plastic is soft carefully use an exacto knife to cut the bottom of the feet off of the rock/pedastal and reglue the feet to whatever base you want to use.
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Finished my brutes. I love Tamiya TS-80 and want to smell it forever even though its bad for you.
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What does it look like on a model when the paint isn't mixed well enough?
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>>92525890
Just ordered some rattlecan Tamiya fine gray primer, hopefully it'll be better than the wraithbone citadel rattlecan I was using
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>>92526029
Lumpy, sometimes wrinkled, splotchy.
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>>92526122
Tamiya rattlecans are probably some of the nicest in the hobby. The nozzle they use is a fine spray and consistent, as long as you clear the nozzle after each use they'll hold pressure and last for a good while.
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>>92526125
Here’s an example of the type of thing i’m trying to diagnose. I can’t tell if i’m making the paint to thin, if i’m not mixing it enough, if I didn’t get good enough coverage with the primer, or if I over sprayed with primer. When I apply the paint it seems to want to run and accumulate back together as if I was applying it to an unprimed model, or as if it was too thin, or as if all the ingredients weren’t mixed well together.
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What are my best options for translucent water based acrylics? In Forgeworld's old guide on painting the Brass Scorpion they use Tamiya clear red, and other painters like using translucent Gaianotes paints because of their saturation. But I don't want to have to buy lacquer thinner and deal with toxicity of if I can help it. I'm hoping to find translucent skin tones too so I can airbrush big dudes easily.
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Hello
I tried drybrushing ink to see if it works as a cel shaded speedpaint
I don't think it does.
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>>92526389
Forgot him. Don't be too mean to him, he tries very hard even though he's ugly and bad at art
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How do I get my cat to stop drinking my paint water?
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>>92526429
put a cover on it
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>>92526429
give it a more appealing water source you dolt. cats want moving water, get one of those waterfall cat drinking fountains
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>>92526403
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>>92526444
She has this. She has water. She has a drink. I clean it every day. She drinks from it whenever I'm not painting. She won't drink from it from the cup before I clean off a brush and make it all paint-y. She waits until the moment there's paint in there and suddenly she slips in like a ninja to take a sip while I'm painting.
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>>92526332
Just make your DIY spraybooth with aqua filter, and a good ventilation fan or 2. No smell at all, i've been spraying lacquer in my bedroom for 5 years with no lung problem
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>>92526480
Anon said more appealing, not cleaner.
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>>92526296
Ice had vallejo paints do that sometimes if I overthin them - particularly if I thin them with water.
On the other hand: free contrast
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>>92526332
ak interactive has come clear acrylic paints, like AK11213 for example
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>>92526332
Any artist's ink of your choosing + some medium. I like daler-rowley fw
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>>92526429
Stop painting in the same area as your cat.
>I can't because...
I don't care what bullshit reason you're about to give me
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>>92526480
Mine does this. She also has a bad habit of trying to drink my tea while I'm not looking. The answer is to stop leaving your paint water unattended
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Yet another Inq warband forming
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>>92526889
Finished this guy ln, pretty happy about this model
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Almost done with this guy.
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>>92520660
Can't imagine why it would be bad.
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I guess?
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>>92526403
U-uncle Adolf?
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>>92528071
Thank you, I was afraid I was going to be alone in seeing that.
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Working through minutia
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>>92522010
>>92522069
I chose it because it's an undercoat for red, and the browns available were too dark. I think it'll be nice. The plan is : I'm going to airbrush camoshade (transparent green) from below to get a desaturated shadow, then Tamiya titanium gold acrylic from above, then contrast blood angels red all over. Then go from there..
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>>92528181
What game are these for ? / Where can I find the models? Groovy looking anon!

>>92527074
What is your transfer application method? Looking nice!

>>92526889
>>92526977
I kneel

>>92526332
Speedpaints/contrast paints through airbrush?

>>92525890
Cool, I like non green greenskins sometimes :)

>>92522167
Off topic but where is this bird from? Seen him around and I like his whole demeaner.
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>>92528025
Hell yeah, I love those ghoul heads. I used some for chaos terminators a while back.
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>>92528258
Star wars legion, imperial special forces
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Working on tank.
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>>92528025
Good stuff anon. I love the metals and how dry and dusty the other textures look.
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>>92528339
I love your tank.
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>>92528339
looking very good, clean lines, good highlights
Now orkify it.
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Red shoulder pad trim for older style DA tactical sgt? yay or nay
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>>92528339
Repulsive.
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>>92528339
I *really* love your tank.
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>>92528395
>>92528420
>>92528472
>>92528479
Thank you. I have been highlighting for hours and now need a break.
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Airbrush noob here, Am i supposed to do quick sweeps and move the trigger back each time like a spray bottle or hold the trigger back not stopping the flow of air nor paint till i got the entire base coating done?
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>>92526517
What do you mean by aqua filter? Are you talking about a waterfall spraybooth?
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>Get everything I haven't primed outside
> get one row of minis mounted to my stick and prime them.
>it gets late, so I head inside and leave it for tomorrow
>Wake up to the sound of rain.
fug
>>9252825
he's from the show Don't hug me I'm scared, a horror comedy parody of shows like sesame street, there's a season of it on YouTube and a show with a bigger budget on Netflix. I remember the original YouTube vids were pretty good, I haven't seen the new show yet so I can't speak to its quality.
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>>92528880
I broke the fucking link like a retard.
>>92528258
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>>92528779
>push down trigger to get just air
>gently pull back trigger while moving the airbrush across the mini
>spray paint
>rock trigger back to just air
>dry the area you just sprayed
>repeat until painted or cup is empty

Rocking the trigger will help you make sure the paint is drying between layers by slowing you down, and will help to prevent dry tip on the needle. If you hold back the trigger and just spray paint continuously it'll build up around the inside of the crown and lead to globs getting spit onto your mini then clogs.
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>>92528880
>>92528897
Thanks!
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what camera + light + box setup you bros using to take pics?
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>>92529108
Thanks!
Used airbrush for the first time today trying to basecoat Rhino red and it was only when i had the paint already in the cup that i started to wonder what i was actually supposed to do.
The paint ended up quite uneven around the model but nothing i can't fix later and it's only a rhino in the end.
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>>92518273
ok really i'm being serious can someone help me with how to attach this thing's fucking limbs even scoring them and using the water with the glue or doing that with clay hasn't kept them in place and nothing i've tried will keep them attached, not even getting into how fucking uneven the attachment areas are
how did they expect you to assemble this thing, jam nails into the arms?
I've already painted all the parts so I'm not going to stop now but while the painting took me a long while it was at least fun to do I just want the bloody thing to actually stay together
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>>92529396
Just pin it the old fashioned way
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>>92529396
Pin them or use greenstuff
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>>92525508
Get off the phone, or rather get rid of the m in the filename (and in this case change back to png). Ignorant phoneposters are killing images by saving then reposting the lower quality.
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>>92529396
Pinning. Also you did wash the resin beforehand right?
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Test model for custodes.

Fucking varnish kills metallic finishes.
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>>92530739
not sure if you did or not but don't use GW metallics or varnishes, they're both terribad.
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>>92530739
>painting miniatures exactly like shown on the box
They may as well come prepainted.
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Convinced greenstuff is the devil. Trying to get flat strips of it, or cylinders that aren't pinched off where they're cut free, is a pain in the ass. Even waited a couple hours before trying to cut the cylinders and it still deformed a ton. Ah well. Hopefully next time it's less hell.
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>>92530739
Nice solid paintjob, the frozen base is cool heh
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>>92530027
yes of course
>>92529901
>>92529920
Pinning seems like a good solution, what should I use? The wires I have are too small/flimsy to support it's limbs. Would something like a nail be good?
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>>92530739
snow base lookin good
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>>92530802
its custards what did you think he was going to paint them
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I'm new to this hobby and still getting a little confused by the lingo.
I was wondering what exactly a wash is. From what I understand you use it for weathering/highlighting.
Is it just super diluted paint or actually its own product? Can I make do without it for my first handful of models?
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>>92530919
/yourdudes/ not /gwdudes/? Seriously what's the point in buy a blank slate just to follow the well beaten path and copy+paste the boxart?
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>>92531077
Do you get sad when you see people painting historical minis in the 'canon' color schemes too?
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>>92530962
It's just diluted paint or ink but they sell pre-made washes. You can layer up and not use washes at all. They just make shading or weathering easy.
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>>92531117
>sad
Projection much?
40k isn't a historical, it's make-believe and the reason it is set across a whole galaxy and a human population of trillions is specifically to leave room for every player to go /yourdudes/
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>>92530881
>>92530908
Appreciated dudes.
>>92530790
Nah they are pro acryl/vallejo. I know the suffering of most GW metallics.
>>92531077
Did it to upset you m8
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>>92531143
Thanks, good to know.
I've also seen some stuff about how your paint and weathering should be of different types (acrylic/enamel). I assume that only applies if you use one of those techniques that uses chemicals or something to remove parts of the paint used for weathering (for lack of a better term?)
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Imperial abhumans are still canon right?
I think crypt ghouls and beastmen are a solid start, but i def wanna do a abhuman grab bag
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>>92531346
Yeah. You can weather with acrylic washes and dry pigments. I think that oil washes look extra nice though.
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Is pro acryl primer good? They claim you can use it without thinning, but I heard the same thing about vallejo and that shit was thick.
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>>92531361
For militia in 30K, yeah I've seen an anon do beastmen militia. Ghouls may be harder to equip with weapons then beastmen though. But I think it could be done well.
I would grab a ghoul and some lasgun arms to test it for you but I'm packing for a move.
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>>92530882
I pinned my seraptek legs with finish nails, did alright. Ymmv, don't know how thick your fella's arms are, probably should t use something more than half the thinnest width in diameter
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/40kg/ is a dumpster fire right now (more than usual) so I'm hoping to seek wisdom here. Is it plausible to continue painting acrylic overtop something that has been had sealer sprayed over? What was your experience with it if you've done so?
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>>92530882
Got any paperclips?
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>>92531832
yeah you definitely can, if it's a matte finish it'll behave pretty similarly to just normally painting over something. If it's gloss or satin, you might have some trouble with adhesion. Sealing stuff as you go can be nice if you want a different finish for washes or something, like applying a gloss coat so the wash flows better, then once it's done do a matte coat.
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>start thinking about a painting competition in September
>What to paint?
>Oh I still have these Mangler Squigs from when I thought about getting into AoS
>What should the base be?
>Oh what if he’s rampaging through a forest and I have a knocked over tree to show motion
>Okay now what to paint the actual squig? I’ll look up youtube videos of squig paintings to see what other people did for colors
>Sergio calvo painting this exact thing 2 years ago and won a golden demon for it
I love having good ideas subconsciously planted in my brain.

Anyone have any cool squig color schemes? I’m still gonna do it but maybe change the base scenario to not feel like a copycat.
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>>92532085
Mangler Squigs (and Giant Cave Squig) are painting contest staples, you're gonna have a rough time if being original is important to you.
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>>92531443
I've switched to it exclusively and thin it 2:1 primer to thinner mix (4:1 thinner to flow improver). Its going to look too thick but will spray fine. If you over thin it it won't adhere as well and can flake off on corners. If you thin it less the primer is tough as shit and can be a pain to strip off completely. It's also nice that the primer is color matched to the rest of the paint line so touching up black is easy.
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>>92532552
Nice, do you only the use the black? I was interested in the black-brown
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>>92532589
I've used black and dark neutral grey, got those before they came out with other colors. Both are matte with the dark neutral grey being a little darker than GW sprue grey.
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Am I selling the effect here?
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>>92532994
very nice anon. good and bloody. possessed are based.
>posting something with one of my possessed in it to further contribute
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>>92530882
Thanks for the mental image of someone assembling miniatures with hammer and nails instead of glue.
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I have to paint a bunch of armigers in not a lot of time. Here's my speedy frame colors. I'm pretty happy with how they turned out.
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>>92532065
Thank you anon!
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Why would you want an airbrush if the s tier painters use rattle cans?
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>>92533553
If you even have to ask that question then you're not ready for the answer
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I recently started orks (nomodels until 40,000), got 1000 pts built, some of which is painted. (Plus, got my first codex on preorder) Convinced a friend to get a combat patrol, and he bought a couple boxes. Tonight, I brought my stuff and we painted/assembled together. This hobby is so much fun! Can't wait to play 10th edition. Excited to try non-GW stuff eventually
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>>92533553
They did all that with a rattle can?
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cutting day
also got some new models for the longest time
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>>92530739
So don’t matt varnish metallics, ya dingus
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>>92522801

Ebay is your friend - search for prewired (blinking) LED, then you'll neeed a resistor to limit current from LED, maybe a switch to turn the whole thing off and a battery holder.

What resistor? Google LED resistor calculator or even better, search for the term in youtube and there'll be a million vids describing how to calculate the circuit

As where to put the battery holder - somewhere hidden, yet accessible? If you use coin batteries like CR2032, you won't need much space

Hope it helps
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>>92531361
Those look more like aliens than abhumans m8.
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>>92531832
>/40kg/ is a dumpster fire right now
But why
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>>92532994
not really, I think need to be more yellow/orange than white
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>>92532994
Looks like fucked up, inflamed gum tissue to me
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>>92534433
>>92534728
It will probably come across better once it's in context with the basing, stay tuned I guess.
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>>92528858
https://www.amazon.com/ZVAWDR-Aquarium-Upgraded-Filtering-Reusable/dp/B0B2DK7Z55
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>>92531077
Coming up with coherent color schemes is pretty difficult, you know? Not everyone wants to run into the risk of having to strip his mini if the scheme you came up with your head looks awful in reality.
A lot of people pick their armies because they liked their lore and/or box art look so they want to paint them accordingly.
also post models, let's see those amazing custom color schemes of yours
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>>92534789
>16
it says 8, so do you stack two of them?

how long does it last anyways?
and wich fans do you use? regular pc radiator ones?
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>>92534819
>>92534799
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>>92534816
>Not everyone wants to run into the risk of having to strip his mini if the scheme you came up with your head looks awful in reality.
NTA but this happened to me and it’s a fucking chore stripping them all. Still got my MOP and Obliterators to do because the scheme I chose looked shit
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>>92532994
I cant tell what you're trying to sell so I don't think so. Is it supposed to be a burning blade or like a fleshy/gory blade
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I'm done with this guy. Some parts of this paintjob I like, some parts I hate, all in all I'm ok with it.
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>>92534840
I think you could've went a bit darker on the bird because he still kinda draws the eye away from the Kroot but overall it looks nice
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>>92531208
And the reason it has some established forces with defined color schemes is specifically to give painters that like those factions to paint them in the same way, how is this a problem?
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>>92530739
Looking good bruh, very clean and crisp. But yeah the finish looks unnatural, try spraying either a satin or a 1:1 mix of satin/matt varnish if you have an airbrush.
I'm not big on snow/ice bases I fucking hate winter but this looks good because of how contrasting it is. Good job.
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>>92534161
That's a great help, thanks.
I'm not a brainlet when it comes to circuits, I just have no idea what products exist in the consumer-space that I could buy to use. If it's just an LED, resistor and cell I'll be fine hiding it.
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Wise fa/tg/uys, which waifu should I do first?
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>>92535174
miranda
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Anyone knows how to paint classic Tau camo blurry lines?
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Two more and I'm done with the combat patrol.
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>>92535786
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>>92535380
Airbrush
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>>92534336
You can go pretty far with abhumans as a concept and it feels like classic rouge trader to me
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>>92535380
Prime/undercoat in your choice of white/light grey, slap some slow-drying medium(probably glazing medium) in a darker grey of your choice, draw your stripes thinner than you think you want and feather them out. Tint with the translucent paint of your choice.
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>>92535174
Excellent taste anon.

Now who do you waifu in Baldurs Gate 1/2 and Dragon age?
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>>92535843
>rouge trader
:^)
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>>92532994
By the thumbnail I thought this was going to be pornographic?
>>92533446
Why all the nudity this morning?!
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I have a master cool runner 2 dual fan compressor with a tank. I spray at 20-25 PSI most of the time.

my issue is that it gets super fucking hot after like 3 cycles. I leave it on so it starts generating air after I spray for a while. IDK if it's supposed ot get this hot or I'm doing something wrong. should I put a wet towel over the solid parts away from the vents? It hasn't broken down or started smelling like smoke, so is this a normal thing?
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>>92534816
>the risk of having to strip his mini if the scheme you came up with your head looks awful in reality.
If you're this out of touch with color theory, what in the absolute fuck are you doing in an artistic hobby?!
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>>92535786
>>92535800
>deathskulls
Nice ork, blue came out crispy.
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How can i make skintone to look better?
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>>92537206
No, dont put a towel on the compressor. Make sure the fins and other recesses are free of dust and dont touch the compressor when hot. Is it a model that needs oil/have you done maintenance on that?
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>>92534819
I mean there are the filter with 15 layers but 8 is fine enough, i think one is should lasted for like 2 month of constant use.
>and wich fans do you use? regular pc radiator ones?
I used a kitchen fan like this https://www.amazon.com/Nalle-Through-Wall-Installation-Ventilation-Bathroom/dp/B09NJBL2FT?th=1
Don't use PC fan, its too weak
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>>92537262
no maintenance. I've maybe only used it like 8 or 9 times since I got it in january. it was my first airbrush setup. I don't know if it needs oil, pic rel
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I am going to strip the paint from a model with isopropyl for the first time, and i want to keep the base as is.

Is the fumes somehow going to cause damage to the base, if i dip the model into the liquid upside down, while keeping the base out of the liquid, or is it safe?
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>>92532994

Looks like a gore/bone blade, not a burning blade
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>>92537395
these posts are getting just plain dumber by the day
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>>92537260
Variation. Slight reds on the knees, elbows, hands and feet for example. Also shading of course.
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>>92537214
>painting 3d coloring books
>artistic hobby
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>>92537395
Even if you keep the base out of ipa you'll inevitably get some while you're scrubbing the mini. You could try to cover the base with tape/putty but I don't think it'll work 100% either
Just redo the base in the same way
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What's a simple and decent looking method for urban bases?
Just using astrogranite or some alternative and drybrush? And what to add for details?
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>>92537436
This image is referring to you I'm guessing? Because getting angry over a dumb beginner question is definetely fatherless behavior
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>>92537395
you're probably gonna have to redo the base or creat some kind of contraption to suspend just the mini above the alcohol like a person dunking their biscuit in milk for a few days

show us the base
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>>92537502
NTA, but if it's such a childishly easy thing to do, could you show me your golden demon award?
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>>92537395
No, it won't damage the base but you will inevitably make a mess and get muck and alcohol on the base when you scrub the model.
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>>92537502
Not this shit again.
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>>92537335
Those guys, yeah they get warm over time. As long as it's not smelling like burning you're fine. If you dont have any leaks it should only be kicking on every minute or so with heavy brushing. If you're concerned you can always let it rest for a few minutes between coats.
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>>92537557
if simple things like painting and stripping are considered chores then this might not be the right hobby for said person
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>>92537550
Its actually a cultural difference
Because 4chan is international there are different outlooks on asking for help;
>in the west the saying is; the squeaky wheel gets the grease
>in other parts of the world; the loose board gets nailed down
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>>92537557
There's not a single person in this entire thread that paints on a level high enough to be considered "artistic". All we're doing is painting plastic toy soldiers you imbecile, picking different colors than what the box tells you to based on an online color wheel does not make you an "artist".
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>>92537549
Sprues cut up for bricks or beams, cork rubble, gravel and sand, oil spills, blasted out concrete, the occasional plant growing. Lots of neutral options.
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>>92537604
Post models
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>>92537614
I'm not claiming to be a master of any kind so you post yours first, let's see how much of an artist you are
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>>92537604
>There's not a single person in this entire thread that paints on a level high enough to be considered "artistic"
I was tested and found to be artistic at an early age, actually.
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>>92537604
What the fuck does that have anything to do with it? Besides, even if you smeared poop on a model, it's art by dictionary definition.

Either way, copying the box art is for children and people who just want to play the game.
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>>92537582
thank you vm

>>92537623
it begins...
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>shitposter-kun right on schedule
Rough shift?
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>>92537550
its obviously the same anon fishing for (you)s pretending to be retarded day after day
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>>92537614
NTA but I share his view that calling this hobby artistic is a stretch. Here's my Krox which I consider to be an above average paintjob
Now post yours, I want to see what you consider art
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>>92537604
Art does not imply quality, moron.
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>>92537636
>akshully they tested me when I was a kid and I was a genius artist
You know these tests are bs made up by people to justify why their jobs are necessary?
They tested me and claimed I should go to a music school because im a genius and shiet, im an average singer and can't dance to save my life as an adult.
Good bait tho.
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>>92537878
Oxford definition of art:
>the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power
Beauty in sculpture painting is achieved through a certain level of quality. Otherwise we would be all drooling over amateur paintjobs.
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>>92537936
It's a joke about autism you neurotic sped
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>>92537988
Where was the punchline tho?
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>>92537604
Weird that you think so. I'm a professional artist in the comic book industry with literally thousands of published books. I did six last month. Painting models is just another art form whether you recognize it as such or not. Skill isn't what makes somebody an artist. The act of creating art does. Art is any human craft that contains personal expression. Clearly painting does. Some of the most influential artists in the 1980s and 1990s painted miniatures and designed movie sets and models for movies and designed movie posters, box covers and toys which they painted. I've done toy boxes, miniatures, 3d models and animation, sculpture, graphic design, comic books, oil paintings, stag horn carving, wood carving, linotype, video game textures models and level design, video game cover and box art, hollywood movie special effects, video editing, sound design, music, and every single aspect of comic book making from drawing, to inking and color, to lettering and editing and layout and print design, to script writing, to concept art and character design, to running entire studios training other artists. So don't make assumptions. The guys here are fantastic and it's a real shame they feel the need to remain anonymous. A lot of otherwise famous people come here. You just don't know that they do.
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>>92538008
it was the part your brain did not register and everyone alse laughed about
t.eri
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>>92538008
Flying over your head, apparently
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>>92537988
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting
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>>92538013
>chill artist chad btfoing whiny hobbying andys
Based. But this whole argument is why i just tell people im a hobbyist or I hobby, not an artist. People put a lot of stock in the word artist.
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>>92538013
>Art is any human craft that contains personal expression
Modern koolaid, under this definition I can drop a dookie on a canvas to express my anger and it would be art.
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>>92538050
Truth, people get weirdly defensive about it. As though calling something 'art' is a value judgement and not just a descriptor, like there's not mountains of bad art, or as though art can't be for the masses
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what does hobbyist even mean in the age of social media
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>>92537778
Paint by numbers box art jobs are not art, no.
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>>92536491
Jaheira in BG 2 and nobody or maybe Leliana in DA:O.
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>>92538150
Just someone who cares about or practices a particular hobby
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>>92538053
Do it. It is. A can with no shit in it called "shit in a can" is art. A tear upon a canvas is art. Picasso is art.
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>>92538053
Now you're getting it faggot~!
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>>92538235
>Just someone who practices a particular hobby

Fixed.
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>>92537553

My plan is to suspend the submerged model upside down in liquid, while keeping the base above the liquid level, but now I am reconsidering removing the model from the base.
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>>92526332
Ak 3rd gen, mr hobby aqueous and surprisingly citadel have great water based clears
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>>92538053
It would be low effort art, but still art. Call the piece pile of shit like your counter argument.
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>>92538050
That's probably because we have this notion that to call yourself an "artist" you have to be in a position where you live off your art, but that's just a job descriptor. Like it or not this is an artistic hobby, considering the average bloke watches tv/youtube as a hobby to kill time.
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>>92538266
Anon, just snap or snip the model off the base. There is too much that can go wrong trying to suspend it partially submerged, just remove the model and you take all that bullshit out of the equation.
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Man, painting face is so exhausting and its still look like shit, fuck
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>>92538279
>>92538252
Check word ethymology for "art". It's synonymous with skill.
Talentless grifters didnt like it so definitions were changed. We live in a post truth world.
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>>92538295
Either your thumb is huge or that's a miniature face. If that's a mini I would say it's quite good enough. Juan hildago on YouTube had a review of a Japanese soldier model someone did and he showed how to improve the face, it might help a little but your face is better than that one was initially so I think it's fine. Nice eyes and lips. Make the upper lip a shade darker than the bottom lip. That was one of the tips.
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>>92538337
Because the meaning of a word never strays from its etymology. Especially not in English, that famously rigid language.
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>>92538426
"War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength."

The definition was changed globally btw, not just in english.
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>>92537327
>80w
>500cfm
how loud is that?

can you show your setup?
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>>92538337
True. But mere skill is the ability to accomplish something, not excellence in it. It's like mere competence. Even low level artistic skill took a dive when we stopped teaching in the academic method and put expression above basic skill. Then people stopped appreciating difficult and conservative art and only rewarded politically driven art. Like you are pointing out a lot of the marxist grifters wanted to sell more for more with less effort. Enter Picasso, a formerly competent artist that took a redpill and gave up even trying. A few crooked faces later he fully then embraced clown world and the ultimate grift in art and even he seemed surprised that he got away with it. Bad paintings worth millions.
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>>92537436
Isn't MGTOW just dudes that don't screw whores? Who is this subverted meme speaking about? How can you be raised by YouTube? This sounds like someone calling someone else a nerd.
We're on fa/tg/uy, who thinks they're better than anyone else here?
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>>92538484
>People not using the word how I want is literally Nineteen Eighty-Four
You're a mong.
And no, in spite of its etymology, I'm not accusing you of being Mongolian.
>The definition was changed globally
I like the implication of it being some concerted effort to enforce a global change, and not just that being the natural way the word's used
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Does anyone have any tips for painting a nebula pattern similar to picrel on a small surface and painted by brush only.
All the tutorials I've seen seem to rely on airbrush, and I sadly don't have one.
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>>92538547
Yeah I don't understand the mgtow reference there either. Mgtows are usually over achievers and subject matter experts, rather good at certain things, and most had good relationships with their fathers, they just have trouble finding women worth the trouble so they reject the complications of relationships and society's expectations for them to have them. That criticism of mgtow seems a little shoe horned into the meme.
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>>92538570
Fine, give me a replacement word for the old thing so I can find the genuine good stuff without wading through pseuds brainfarts.
Because the way it is now we are in a state of literal doublethink where both Mona Lisa and shit in a can are in the same category. And pseuds like you insist it's "just the way it is nowadays".

And no, "high art" doesnt count because it also got muddied and involves white paint on white canvas bs.
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>>92538534
>how loud is that?
About 70db
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>>92538576
Oil paint can help because blending easier, sponge or q tip can help and mediums that extend drying time to make acrylic more like oils, punching holes in wax paper with a pencil may give you a stencil star pattern you can use, flicking wet paint off a brush or tooth brush can splatter paint into a star pattern, white ink or gouche might work better than paint for the stars, practice on a paper plate until you master making nebula. Do background first then stars, then transition colors to make glow around stars. Smoosh globs of wet paint down to fade and blend centers to make glows. Glow should have colors not just be white.
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>>92538673
using a box is fucking genuis, you can store everything inside when not in use, I might have to steal this idea
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>>92538659
>give me a replacement word for the old thing
What, skill?
>literal doublethink where both Mona Lisa and shit in a can are in the same category
That's not 'doublethink' at all you spacker, that's just a broad category. There's no contradiction in it. If you're going to keep banging on the Nineteen Eighty-Four drum, at least make an effort to understand the terms. The Mona Lisa and a child's crayon drawing of their mum are both by definition portraits, it doesn't mean they have to be comparable in skill, understanding, materials, etc.
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>>92538737
When it comes to both portraits my response is... would.
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>>92537206
>>92537262
>>92537335
>>92537582
>>92537692
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>>92537778
>>92537614

what's the holdup art bro
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>>92537604
picrelated is me taking what I learned from model painting onto canvas.
Fuck off.
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>>92538737
So you admit there is no way to quickly provide a distinction? As in there is no clearly defined word to quickly separate bad shit in the jar shit from good stuff?
Because searching for "skill" art wont cut it.

The term art was changed so much that these days getting angry and shouting profanities at someone could be technically considered an artful expression. This is not something I can get behind.

The former definition was much more precise.
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>>92538781
Here, I maked a art.
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>>92538194
those are not box art colors, in case you didn't know
>>92538881
What is that supposed to prove in relation to miniature painting? You actually created a painting from scratch on a blank canvas, I'd easily call that art. Not particularly interesting or anything, but good enough to be called art. Filling in estabilished surfaces on a plastic miniature needs to be above a certain level to pass as art in my opinion. Slapping shit on a stick and calling it art does not make it so and you won't convince me otherwise
Or should we call people slapping contrasts on space marines "artists"? Like come on
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>>92538893
>As in there is no clearly defined word to quickly separate bad shit in the jar shit from good stuff
'Bad' and 'good'? You're asking for all encompassing terms for value judgements, you moron
>The former definition
Again, you're hung up on an idea that it has been actively redefined from specifically describing 'the good stuff', when all it's ever been is the application of a skill, regardless of the quality of the product
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>>92538964
>Again, you're hung up on an idea that it has been actively redefined
>'bad' and 'good'? You're asking for all encompassing terms for value judgements, you moron
I just want a word to describe what "art" USED TO describe.
Can you provide me with it?
Or will you admit that a certain concept in language was destroyed by pseuds like you?
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>>92538881
Looks gud fren, nice shading
>>92538925
Pretty
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Why does in every youtube video their brushs are so pointy and stiff meanwhile my brush get bend on just a tiny little touch on the miniature surface?
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>>92539043
brush control, they apply just enough pressure that paint goes off the brush but not enough to bend the bristles. comes with practice, dont worry about it
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>>92539088
Do i need sable kolinsky something brush for this? Or synthetic is fine?
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>>92539088
This.
>>92539043
Also don't clean the brushes agressively.
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>>92539043
>>92539088 lies.
Brushes are quantum entities that behave differently under outside observation.
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>>92539103
Anything that keeps a sharp will obviously work. Natural bristles are just nicer and paint goes off them smoother in my experience.
>>92539125
you're right, I'm sorry for taking this guy for a ride
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>>92539022
>I just want a word to describe what "art" USED TO describe.
What are you fucking asking for? Do you want a new synonym for the Latin 'ars'? Because the English 'art' has always been used to describe art which is crude, lacking skill, etc. and we then use modifiers like, 'high art' to distinguish the very good
You are stamping your feet about something which only exists in your head
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>>92539144
sharp tip*
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>>92539043
Depends on brush type, length of hairs, thickness, how much paint is on brush, and most importantly lightness of your touch, come at the model slightly from the side near the throat of the hairs where the tip transitions into the belly the thickest part of the hairs. That's where you should make contact for a broad mark, once contact is made go no farther, just wiggle brush to lay down paint, rinse brush, dab on paper towel or moist sponge, reload and repeat, don't hold too close near top of brush near metal ferrule, just close enough for control, lay handle in crook of hand and use tips of fingers for control. Natural hair brushes are softer so take that into consideration. They need lighter touch and don't rebound as quickly. Synthetic snap back in place faster. Between sessions rinse brush really well and use little soapy water and rinse and apply a little human hair conditioner reshape tip with fingers and let dry to retrain tip to stay. Rinse before next use. Practice light touch on thumbnail of other hand. Brush should be moist always with water but not wet, big drops dab on paper towel or moist sponge, too dry rinse by swishing in water again and dab again etc, takes practice
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>>92539088
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>>92539205
Thank you, i'm still new so just practiced with bunch of no name cheap brushs. Its especially hard to make a dot for the eyes, the tip keep getting bend all over the place
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>>92539103
Synthetic is better for beginners, less sensitive, kolinsky even softer so even more sensitive and harder to use, but because softer less likely to remove previous layers of paint so preferred by pros but beginners need Synthetic because easier to clean. Less sensitive and works with solvents if necessary. Natural hair can be destroyed by solvents fast.
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holy shit why do people get so defensive when someone dares suggest that this hobby should or should not considered art?
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>>92539257
Ah, we all have trouble with eyes, my dad said use single hair for eyes, he was insane, but also right, eyes are difficult, old way it was done was whites were done as a stripe, then dots, then face color was painted on top, that way don't need as fine brush control, or do insane dad way.
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>>92539022
>painting, sculpture, and diorama aren't artistic hobbies
>instead of just saying "I don't like low effort or lazy art", wants to redefine one of the most subjective words in the english language then call others pseuds
>"not that anon but"
that model isn't yours, is it
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>>92539257
To do a small dot for the eyes you need to thin the paint more than you usually do/think you need to. Thinner paint flows easier from the brush so even gentle contact with the surface will make it flow from the bristles. Don't fall for the trap that you NEED expensive equipment for this hobby, you can have good control over your paint without a kolinsky brush
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>>92539294
What about needle?
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>>92539150
>You are stamping your feet about something which only exists in your head
No I am not. Before your ilk came there were academically established principles in what could be described as art.

How do I call the stuff with proportion, perfection in the technique, appeal to intellect as well as emotion instead of sole focus on the latter?
Because that is what "art" used to mean.

Your lack of understanding about what I'm talking about is further proof that a certain concept was erased in the process of redefinition.

By the way the proper definition for a shit in a can is "stinking trash".
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>>92539303
Which model? I'm the one that posted the kroxigor and I'm not the guy you're arguing with
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>>92539339
>academically established principles in what could be described as art.
Nta but if they are established principles then what were they. I'd like to see them.
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>>92539150
Also, you are a retard.

I used language to express my emotions in a text format.

This post is art.
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>>92539338
Will work just remember without hairs nothing to hold moisture in paint as you move it towards the model and acrylic dries fast so the paint on a fine tipped brush or needle or toothpick dries quick and doesn't want to flow off needle or sharpened toothpick or whatever, there's also a chance you might scratch surface of paint already there or if the model is close to your face of poking your own eyes so it's not really a safe practice but you can try to put needle in mechanical pencil instead of lead to control it better.
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>>92539257
When you start to buy more brushes a nice synthetic liner brush may be helpful. A size 1 has a nice sharp tip and with the long thin bristles you can reach into tight spots for the little dots like on eyes, and the length will help your paint keep from drying in the bristles. They also tend to be cheaper than say a triple 0 size round brush.
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>>92539408
>>92539336
>>92539294
What do you guys deal with dotting mistake at the wrong place on the eyes anyway? Do you guys clean it with IPA or just paint over it?
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post one example where the color theory went horribly wrong
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>>92539363
Whole field of aesthetics?
Shit is as old as Aristotle and Plato?
I am talking to a moron.
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>>92522167
I bought every color except contrasts from GW/Citadel. I even have multiples of my favorite consistencies. I like the way they paint. I dont give a fuck about you, let alone your opinion.
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>>92539427
Paint over it. If your paint's thin enough it shouldn't pose a problem of creating texture or anything. Just make sure to thin it and let it COMPLETELY dry before you put something over it
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>>92539427
Paint white stripe over the eye, then redo dot, then redo skin around eye, but most beginners make dot too small anyway so sometimes you can adjust it by making it bigger on one side without redoing anything, we very seldom strip paint off to fix things, it's hard to make the layers look natural after stripping one so it's better to lay a new white one on top most of the time
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>>92539427
I paint the eye in first so I can be a little messy if needs be to make sure it looks right, then I paint the rest of the face around it. Once the eye is dry any mistakes can be quickly and carefully wiped away with a lightly damp brush. I've always liked to approach models from inside out, painting the hardest to reach parts first and working my way to the tips.
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>>92539452
What are these hard line rules/principles anon? It should be super duper easy to produce them. Please, educate me senpai.
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>>92539430
when that youtube guy painted those purple and yellow marines that looked like a fucking NBA logo
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>>92539456
You mean like the entire range? Have you ever used paints from other brands? You do you man but why would you buy the most overpriced range on the market with the most duds in it?
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>>92539468
Sure.
Read Aristotles "Poetics".
Is that what you want? To bash you over the head with a book?
Or are you a disingenuous mong and want me to write you a whole lecture?
Fuck you.
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This Dirty Down stuff is pretty neat. I need to get a hairdryer, i’ve heard that really helps with the effect
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>>92539339
>Before your ilk came there were academically established principles in what could be described as art
Art is about creation and expression. Many notable artists became notable for going against your precious "established principles". Art is about growth and change. You may leave the thread now, your shitposting is no longer entertaining lol.
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>>92539499
That's about literary art, how about painting, which is what you are kvetching about.
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>>92539501
Looks gross. Good job! Rust is fun
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>>92539509
You are retarded.

This post is about creation and expression. This post is Art (capital A)
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>>92539519
No, it also talks specifically about painting.
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People shouldn't be allowed to post in /wip/ without having posted a picture of their progress that thread
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>>92539501
I jsut got some dirty down rust myself and it hasnt turned out too well.
One of the issues is I painted it ontop of black and I heard the effect doesn't show up well that way
any other tips?
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>>92539581
I know you want more model porn but I can only get so erect
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>>92539591
Maybe dry brush with tan or gray first?
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>>92539591
I’ve heard two big things about dd:
>Get the bottle warmed the fuck up
>mix the shit out of it
Apparently a go-to is heating it up by putting the bottle in a cup of hot water, and also using a hairdryer when it’s drying. I’ve also heard that you need to have like two ball bearing in that bottle or you need to stir it a ton.
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>>92539581
I agree. Here's mine. I won't say it's great but I'm learning, improving, and enjoying what I'm doing.
>>92539538
Where. All I can find is he uses painting as an allegory to explain his ideas on literary art. Perhaps you can actually educate me on what you define as art instead of telling me to read a book, since you have such a strong idea about what is and isn't art. You should have the definition you are using close to hand shouldn't you?
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>>92539581
well its techically all wip related even if its just fart sniffing instead of model postings
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>>92539640
Disposable cup only though, the stuff is toxic and corrosive, hence the rust. Before mixing turn upside down for a while like 15 min, makes mixing easier
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>>92539692
>Disposable cup only though
what it eats through the glass it comes in or something
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>>92539704
Nta but yours came in glass? Mine came in plastic
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>>92539704
No but it can be on outside of bottle or coild leak so you don't want it in drinking glass from kitchen
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>>92539709
No, I've never used the stuff. It just seems weird to me they'd put it into a container that can get damaged by what's inside.
Unless that disposable cup guy is the same guy that was telling people they can die from inhaling small quantities of acetone or something
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>>92539529
See Anon, it isn't that hard. No need to be a cocksucker about it. &=^]
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What is the best makeup brush for dry brushing?
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>>92539814
The cheap ones. The one correctly sized for what you're painting.
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>>92539648
Reading comprehension level 0
Read the book with comprehension. It's in this pararell between painting and literary works that he outlines that you will find the foundation and basics of what I am talking about. Keep searching from there, same author and Plato.
Ever heard a phrase "Art imitates Life"?
Anyway I'm not going to give a lecture to someone too lazy to read a fucking book about a subject he speaks so authoritatively about.

Btw this book is level 1 mook basics about the subject and the fact that you dont know it tells me you dont know shit except what you hear on TV.
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>>92539814
anything with soft and dense bristles, so most of them will work
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>Go to Japan
>check out the local hobby shop
>Gaianote, Mr color, Tamiya $1
>Vallejo $2
What the fuck?
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>>92539851
>>92539866
Are makebrush like this alright?
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>>92539942
Yes.
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>>92539942
I use one similar to the one on the right. Not sure about the left one but I feel like its bristles are too short to work for drybrushing
>>92539919
You shouldn't compare that based on currency of a different country. In my shitty slavic country(with current exchange rate) Vallejo would also be ~ $2 and citadel ~ $2,50
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>>92539814
>>92539942
You got it, one on the right would be great for terrain and vehicles. These are legit what I get, when I need a new one I pick it up at the grocery store for like $1.75. Eyeshadow brushes are shaped like a filbert (flat brush with rounded edges like a finger) and give you good control over curved survaces.

https://www.amazon.com/wet-wild-Small-Eyeshadow-Brush/dp/B01EO2KLE4?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
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It's probably not just me, but still asking if it is because it's kinda driving me mad
Am I the only one who just... can't get anything right sometimes? I think I'm okay at painting, it's a hobby I have experience with and have painted stuff I really think looks cool, but sometimes, things just suck?
I've been in the ditch or something for a week and everything I've painted has been an absolute turd. Idk what it is, but basically everything is getting stripped. I've tried to consolidate new skills I developed to try out the limits, and on models I don't know, so sure that's harder but it feels like my skills just disappeared and I can't reproduce what I just did. Makes me feel like a monkey with a typewriter sometimes.
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Good enough for tabletop
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Not sure if this is the right thread to ask, but I'm getting some of my first miniatures for a boardgame, and I really have no interest in learning to paint them, I just wanna play the game. But are there people who'll paint minis for commission?
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>>92540036
This is normal when developing any skill. Just keep working and educating yourself.
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>>92540061
Yes. Quality wont be best but they will do it.
Just do a quick and sloppy paintjob and save money, it will do for most people.
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>>92539521
Thanks anon. I don’t think the paintjob I gave them’s too decent, so I really appreciate your praise
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Do do people say to not do basecoating with sable brushes?
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>>92540092
I see, if I were to go for it, I'd probably pay more to have the paintjob be pretty tip-top. But if not, I'll just have them unpainted.
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>>92540059
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>>92540059
>>92540172
Sure, they're clean and neat. Probably a lot better than what most people put on the table
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>>92540167
Some people might refuse to play with you if you don't paint your minis.
Matter of visibility and table culture.
Unless it's some board game set then who gives a damn.
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>>92540165
No? There's no particular reason to use sable over synthetic or vice versa for base coating, it's not like using normal acrylics will damage them if you're maintaining them properly.
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>>92540193
I dont mind. Makes my effort to paint my stuff look better in comparison. And any trash talk my opponent does I can just point at his minis.
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>>92540183
I've stopped trying to "out do" people at the table because a lot of gaming miniatures end up chipped, broken, scuffed, worn, etc. At this point I just want it to look good on the table and call it a day.
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How the fuck do I base
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>>92540193
>Unless it's some board game set then who gives a damn.
It is, yeah.
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>>92540262
>apply pva glue
>dip into gravel of your choice
>clean edges
>apply watered down pva
>done
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>>92540232
Yeah, its fine with a smaller number of miniatures but becomes a nuissance with a larger army to squint at a grey mass of the opponent to see what is where.

There is a reason why important stuff like plasma in wh40k is telegraphed with a striking color (in this case blue).
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>>92540250
>chipped, broken, scuffed, worn, etc.
Varnish thoroughly. Gloss then matte as needed.
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>>92540308
I should’ve been more specific, i’m specifically wanting to know how I can make some rocky terrain that I can put dirtydown moss on
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>>92540036
You hit a plateau, happens to everyone. Keep up your basics like brush control and thinning which will help almost everything else that you do and just keep plugging away. Maybe a palate cleanser mini like a one off or just something the looks cool? I just stripped a bunch of squigs to play around with since I've been painting a lot of armor recently and wanted to paint something organic for fun.
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Working on a butcher for my renegade marines' kill team, and I'm trying to figure out what to do with his chest for visual interest. I've done fur trim around the collar/upper chest on a couple other members of the kill team and it's looked fine, but I don't want to do that on every single guy. Test fit some bits for grenades or other accessories mag-locked to the chest, and they're just too bulky to look right. Maybe chain mail instead of fur? Or something else entirely? Tried doing power cabling on another body and had a very bad time getting greenstuff to cooperate, but haven't completely ruled it out. Any thoughts on what else might look good? I know he still needs a bit more cleanup as well.
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Finished bases so I glued minis to them. It took me whole month to do do 14 minis along with their bases, I know it's not a race but I still feel bad about being so slow.
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>>92540366
apply some flock on top of
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Also, not quite related to them but bases in general - what makes convincing tree trunks? I don't really want to burn money on few and expensive casted ones and I will need to make several jungle/forest bases within next few months.
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>>92540469
Deep gouges and burn marks, showing where he personally defaced the aquilla off? As a butcher he'll be a very angry melee guy so extra battle damage would fit the aesthetic as well.
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>>92540079
Definitely am. Giving myself some rest too - I'm sleep-deprived in large part due to painting way too much.
>>92540393
Yeah, I basically did a lot of NMM I was quite proud of, decided to push those skills and try out more stuff with thicker paints, failed. Happens but ig it's all part of learning!
My palate cleansers are always dead things, I could go back to that.
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>>92540480
>>92540493
There you go, those little hints of brown go a long way in breaking up the grey on the bases while not distracting too much. Don't worry too much about speed, as long as you're happy with it then it was the right speed.
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>>92540572
Don't burn out either.
Doing it too much is a recipe for it.
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>>92540274
Painting board game figures is real good shit, that it is not necessary, or even seen as an option by some, makes it look so much better.
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>>92540613
Yeah, sadly I can't really reason my brain to do something else and do shit in moderation. I'm working on it though lol
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>>92539919
Japanese currency folded over 1000 times, prease understand

It does help that hobby tools even before JPY cratered were cheaper in the first place. Tabletop minis are a rip off compared to the Japanese prices of what Bandai and Kotobukiya make.
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Weird seeing your older painted models side by side with a fresh take
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>>92531680
>>92532059
I've managed to start pinning them, I am very appreciate of the help. Had someone help me with a power drill to do it (my hand drill was too weak) and now I've got a thicker steel wire I'm using for the arms to be pinned; one is attached and drying the other has the pin inserted and the glue is drying for it. I'll likely not need to pin the legs so hopefully I'll be able to finish my buddy off by the end of the day!
>>92533424
You're welcome
If you're wondering the reasoning behind that a guy at my LGS owns a Harridan and according to him the thing was so heavy and difficult that in order for him to get it to stay on it's flight base he had to literally jam nails deep into the fucking thing and then slam the thing on top of them so it would stay put without falling over
I wish I'd been able to get a picture of it honestly
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whitch way /wip/ man
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>>92541590
Middle is glued on sand with what I assume is a cork rock and static grass. I'll go with that.
>making Citadel technical paints an option at all
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Ankther evening, another strip of wheat.
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>>92541590
>citadel texture paints
How about simply grinding coffeebeans or similar stuff to desired coarseness, then mixing it with PVA, water, and a tension breaker. Done. Apply it, let it dry, prime it.
Bonus points for making delicious coffee with beans first and then sticking the dregs in the oven to dry.
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>>92541590
single color sand is old school and has it appeal
this is pretty much a standard, good looking and low effort base nowadays, this is what most people go for
>paying for overpriced citadel """"""technical"""""" paints when for the price of two you can get a 250ml jar of texture paste from other manufacturers
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>>92541673
Every time I think minipainters have autism, some scalesd00d comes along to remind me it could be worse.
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>>92541712
that guy came up with a cool way to make wheat on his own, what the fuck is your problem
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>>92538053
"Black circle" a painting that composes literally just a black circle of paint, was exhibited at the guggenheim twice.
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I glued all my models to the base before basing them. Am I boned?
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>>92541897
Depends on how high concept your base idea was. If they're I sand/mud/snow/etc just pile it up around their feet, they're sinking a little. If not, snap them off, do the base, reglue them
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>>92540308
>>92540483
I found someone talking about how they used vallejo dark earth texture paint along with dirty down moss, and they ended up with this result. I honestly forgot that texture paints even existed, but I think i'm going to try this out
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>>92541897
It depends. I do that and brush on PVA glue onto the base before dunking the mini in sand and then pushing a bit of the sand away.
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>>92541897
No, this gives you the best hold and makes it much less likely that the mini comes off the base down the road.
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>>92541673
Curious to see what the final result will look like. Once had a diorama in mind of soldiers crossing a wheatfield, but I abandonned it cause I had no idea how to get the field done and nigh everything you find online is either shit, a fibremat (scale too small), or does a tiny TINY amount, where it is more like having a tuft of lost wheat than an actual field. Picrel is the best I have seen so far, (discovered long after I was toying with the idea) but it doesn't look like wheat from the side, it is too thin and dense, to the point where it starts to look like long grass. Your approach of row by row I like much better.
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>>92542040
This def is too dense and indeed looks like grass.
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>>92541897
Only if you want interesting bases. If you're okay with boring and flat glued>painted grit then you're fine.
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>>92541590
All of those are bland.
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>>92542040
>that camo and wear
Nani the fuck. Wrong yellow wrong green and the oxide red undercoat showing through is far too heavy and random (middle of a panel, but not on the edges).

Cool idea with terrible execution. Should have used reference pictures.
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Anons why am I cursed to be so ambitious with my painting ideas
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>>92542426
My painting plans never survive contact with the miniature.
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>>92542511
That has been my experience as well. I am woefully amateur for the things my mind conjures
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>>92542826
>>92542511
>>92542426

Practice makes perfect anons , pick up that brush and get painting

I've got a old elf model that I keep on my desk from when I first started, when I get abit depressed at my work, i compare the two and enjoy seeing how far i've come since i first started
Got the base done on my demon prince, slowly but surely getting him done
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Not quite done yet
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Still gotta do some touch ups but man god bless airbrushes. Would've taken me probably a whole day to get to this point instead of 2 hours and it still would've looked worse
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>>92541963
So they apply the texture paint, then add the dirty down moss on top of it?
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>>92544475
Yeah, he said he put down the texture paint and then stippled on the dirty down, presumably after the texture paint dried
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>>92544516
Interesting. I can see how that would add more depth to the texture of the moss.

I've been looking for something similar for my bases. A lot of vibrant green and damp dark earthy browns. Mud and Moss.
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>>92543293
Nah, when I see the shift from one color to another where it's clearly airbrushed, it reminds me of cheap dollar store toys shat off a chinese production line. Brushed always looks better, air just looks like you're rushing.
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>>92544592
Yeah it seems to be exactly what I was wanting too. Just DD by itself looks 2d for me even if the colours are incredible, but I also don't really like the look of flock as moss, so this seems like a good middle ground
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Yes
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base is basically where i want it. tombstones dont QUITE line up to how i posed his legs somehow,, but its small enough differences that i can just bend the legs a little before i do any more painting.
now im back in hell trying to get the basecoat in around the legs on the undercarriage before i weather it though
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So about Liner brush, i see there are the short one, the long one and the super long one. Which one is better for small details?
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>>92545111
Definitely not the super long, that is for stuff like a pinstripe on a model car in one go. A size 1 short is fine for our purposes.
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>>92544633
Copium
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>>92544689
poor steve. RIP. Ash can be found in housewares on the other side of life.
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>>92543293
looks gud fren
>>92541897
I always do that. It's not a problem. Just harder to get underneath the model to paint between the legs.
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>>92540366
chunky styrofoam broken into pieces and cut with serrated knife into shapes and then covered in pva glue and flocking, repeat as necessary to make look random or use pic reference. Then paint with cheap house paint or craft paint. Don't use spray paint on foam though, will dissolve.
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>>92540165
It's okay to do, but to basecoat or prime with brush you have to push the tip into the corners a lot, so tears up your brushes, so best to use cheaper synthetics or worn out cheap natural hair brushes. Synthetics sometimes a little rough and will lift the previous layer, so I just find a soft fuzzy brush of any kind that isn't expensive for base coating, it doesn't really matter what it is made from as long as it's soft and kind of fuzzy at the end.
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>>92539942
yes, use the shorter one for more of a scratchy look and the longer one for a softer touch.
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>>92539919
The Japanese hate the Spaniards since Jesuits tried to take over their country in the 1600s. Based Japs.
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put 10 hours into this dino today. my back hurts.
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>>92546084
Nice dino fren.
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new thread
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