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>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>AK-47 Republic
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/6v39gcjode5ln/Insanely_Based_AK-47_Republic_Folder
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>Battlegroup
https://mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ
>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/file/f8a58xjysyweaz8/Black+Powder+Rulebook.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Fistful of Lead & Expansions
https://app.mediafire.com/3a570vvs1lxqq
>Flames of War 4th Ed (shhhh)
https://mega.nz/folder/lc1SRajQ#QTDXthNFG-sDoYe08bhV9A
>Fleet Series
https://mega.nz/#F!i1N3xZxL!C6fQ3Z8o2U0gtk5kdXuVcQ
>GMT
https://mega.nz/#F!D1dHQZCJ!V9pYq0CUc4iCrNiOcBOBtg
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!XsVD0KgT!twB1NWiFE3aKXK_O1EZ4pA
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>The Perfect Captain
http://perfectcaptain.50megs.com/captain.html
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Wargaming Compendium
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf

I mainly play WW2, and the biggest pull, esp in terms of attracting new players, is the wide availability of mostly half-decent media. Almost everyone is aware of e.g. Band of Brothers, Saving Private Ryan, etc. The flip side to this is that there's a LOT of pop-history that gets stuff wrong (hurr durr Tiger the best tank) and disproportionate focus on a few small sub-parts of the period. Not enough focus on other theatres (Burma, Africa, Italy in 1944, etc)

>>92519533
Copying the comment from the previous thread in case the MESBG/Historical anon is still here.

An important mechanic for MESBG is also trapping the opponent, since you get twice the number of dice to wound the enemy models if they're trapped. Maybe he could've used the market stalls to trap the peasants and slay them faster. Additionally, I'd guess a peasant should definitely be Defense 3 (no armor whatsoever), but with a shield they get to D4, and that would lead to regular vikings (guessing Strength 3) wounding them on 5+, making them virtually as durable as a regular warrior with light armor and shield.
I think one thing that would work well for MESBG would be changing the dice from D6s to D10s and slightly tweaking the system accordingly. Otherwise I think it's a great system.
What I like the most about it is the fact that you can see actual formations emerge from the way rules interact. Infantry will need to be in a line of 2 models at least (sometimes 3, with pikes) in order to fend off a cavalry charge. Additionally, infantry works better if you get them all in a tight formation so cavalry can get less bases into combat due to their massive size (40mm rounds are quite large). Ranged weapons are also interesting, in the sense that they usually don't cause as many casualties as melee combat, but you will get a randomly decisive arrow in some games (killing a hero's horse, for instance, or even focus firing a hero and taking off a wound, very much like Harald getting killed by an arrow in Stanford Bridge)

>>92521428
I enjoy napoleonics and 18th century (Europe only). Napoleonics seems to attract people mostly through other media and from the collector/reenactor crowd. It’s button counter heaven.
Apart from that I think that the sheer volume of rulesets covering all the subperiods and ranging from small skirmishes to epic multi corps battles offer variety to an unrivaled level.

The 18th century, at least in my experience, can be described as a small group of SYW enthusiasts and the rest. The rest being individuals with interests in various campaigns (GNW, WSS et al.). Basically all of them are already experienced in more popular periods and have a rather academic interest in the period.

>Warlord had announced the third edition of Bolt Action
>it's not called Bolt Action: Third Reich
Missed opportunity.

Has anybody compared the Victrix and Warlord War Elephant sculpts? The Victrix kit is certainly more affordable, but are they out of scale for something like Hail, Caesar? I still kind of like the cludgy sculpt if the Warlord pachys too.

I like colonials because you can have machine guns and trains but also spears and tigers.

>>92522937
Never met a soul who played the primitive factions

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BOLT ACTION V3 AINT COMING, ITS HERE

OVERHAULED UNIT COSTS AINT COMING, ITS HERE

RETOOLED NATIONAL RULES AINT COMING, THEY'RE HERE

GLOSSARIES AND INDEXES AREN'T COMING, THEY'RE HERE

>QT
I like cold war gone hot because you can field a great variety of vehicles and troops with a focus on the firsts

>>92523684
Now, now. No need to insult the French.

Warlord didn’t say much about bolt action third edition, but it seems they’re still using blast templates. What do you guys think of this? Personally not a huge fan of blast templates, wish they went back to how V1/K47 did it.

>>92521848
>An important mechanic for MESBG is also trapping the opponent, since you get twice the number of dice to wound the enemy models if they're trapped. Maybe he could've used the market stalls to trap the peasants and slay them faster. Additionally, I'd guess a peasant should definitely be Defense 3 (no armor whatsoever), but with a shield they get to D4, and that would lead to regular vikings (guessing Strength 3) wounding them on 5+, making them virtually as durable as a regular warrior with light armor and shield.
The people running the event were not making use of this "trapping" mechanic and they made the peasants defense 4 by default, both of which it sounds like contributed to them being much harder to kill than they ought to have been.
>I think one thing that would work well for MESBG would be changing the dice from D6s to D10s and slightly tweaking the system accordingly. Otherwise I think it's a great system.
I definitely agree that going to a D10 system would likely add some much-needed granularity.

>>92523727
Im hyped but im gonna sideline my plans for a Soviet partisans and expansion of my other two armies until 3rd edition. I got a loooot of painting to do anyway.

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How many Phalangites do I want to put on a base to at least simulate a full syntagma? I think I normally see people put 4 guys on a base. Is that fine, or should I cram more? This is for Hail, Caesar by the way

>>92526131
Do 3 and have people freak out when they see it.
THAT'S psychological warfare

>>92526157
I didn't ask about psychological warfare, I asked about simulating ancient warfare.

I do not think you understand, Euthyphro.

>>92526131
Doesn't Hail Ceasar tell you?

>>92526270
yeah 2 deep, optionally 4 if you REALLY want, but make it let's say 12 wide so it looks like a fucking napoleonic firing line

What would be some rulesets that would allow me to wargame clan warfare and anglo-irish vs gaels warfare in tthe 15th and 16th centuries?

GHQ prices are out of this world
13 eurodollar for 5 tanks? I can get double the models in 10mm for the same price fuck off already

>>92514224
Here ya go buddy, let me know if you pick up some neat features:
gofile.io/d/
o5PR85

did battlefront ever made nonvehicle support weapons for team yankee/WW3? who makes those soviet AT guns in 15mm?

15MM OR 6MM???? I CAN'T DECIDE I AM IN AGONY!!!

>>92526131
What’s the unit size, 16 by 16? In that case 4 would work fine.

>>92523684
>>92523909
This is why I really like those wars like the first ethiopian war or the zaian war or some of the later american vs indian conflicts because the natives acquired guns and people are alot more willing to actually play them.


>>92523904
Agreed

>>92529391
They added Soviet VDV infantry mortar teams and the French and Dutch can take towed artillery and West Germany and Iran can take infantry on foot instead of needing to take a transport as a requirement. So it seems they've scaled back the pure IFV infantry and SPG SPAAG shit and realized that modern armies still use towed guns and on foot infantry.

>>92529493
What era? I like 15mm for pre-modern and 6mm for when you start including vehicles. 15mm gives you enough room for detail and no scale will actually look “realistic” for a battle anyway unless you’re playing skirmish level. Only reason I play 15mm over 28mm is because I find the value of detail drops off after 15mm, but the difference between 6mm and 15mm is a lot IMO.

>>92523727
Warlord are selling mystery boxes, each one guaranteed to have a copy of the v2 rules LOL

>>92529493
6mm for ancients/napoleonics
15mm for WW2/modern company-level
25mm for WW2/modern squad/platoon level
Anyone who disagrees is objectively wrong.

>>92530038
This is such a bad take it’s unreal

>>92530038
based

>>92529685
Yeah probably 16×16. Maybe 32×8 if I'm feeling saucy.

>>92530586
What scale?

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Never fight uphill, me boys!

>>92528501
Go for Heroics & Ros, essentially look the same from 2 ft away

>>92530613
28mm.

>>92530935
Jesus. What would 16×16 look like in 28mm? Is that even playable on anything smaller than a banquet table?

>>92530824
Jesus Christ, is this the power of American Education?

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It's very annoying how low resolution the pics on the baccus website are.

i am getting gaslighted by warno, to play something about ww3. Did the guys from battlegroup made another cold war gone hot book aside from Northag?

>>92531194
My guess would be in-game it would be multiple 4x4 or 2x2 blocks but it would make a good storage/display to have a full phalanx

>>92531265
No it’s the power of a shitpost, has you fooled but proper.

>>92528501
GHQ is run by boomer jews, H&R is what you want as you can't tell the difference unless you are like 4 inches from the models, though admittedly GHQ has some niche stuff like modern japs and Italians that you can't really get anywhere else.

>>92531265
Trump quote from a recent campaign rally.

Finding it impossible to find historical wargamers near me :( Anyone else know that feel?

>>92534234
See if your town/area has a wargaming facebook group. I've found that facebook is where all the boomers like to organize their games and post their gaming pictures, and they're almost always into historicals.

For me it's ecw and gallic wars because of the cheap plastics and wide variety of character metals available. Will probably do Naps and Medievals some day. The rest I am happy w board games.

>>92530824
Omg he's just like me

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What do you hope they’ll change in 3rd and what do you think they’ll actually change?

>hope, they’ll make MMGs usable
>from the announcement wording they’re going to have an unrestricted list building mode which will be shit

>>92534411
>Expecting warlord will actually do a good job
Aren't you just setting yourself up for disappointment?

Unrestricted list building requires some very tight points values, taking into account not just power, but unit rarity, breakdowns, and logistics. The way units work also needs to encourage balanced builds, such as infantry are required to help spot for tanks, or artillery is required to support infantry. With good points values and unit interactions you can also encourage historical builds which is a really cool thing that I think companies like Warlord are totally missing out on.

It's relatively easy to implement a tight points system if you don't have too many special rules, but the more special rules that interact with each other, the harder it becomes to predict how people will use things, and you have to rely on really thorough playtesting. It's also generally better to not release additional army lists, but instead have everything balanced at launch.
I can's see Warlord doing a ton of playtesting, nor can I see them releasing all the army books at launch, and not drip feeding new products to buy, as neither of these things are really conducive to making money as a business.

>aventine miniatures is stopping business in September 2025
RIP

>>92536718
2025 - bought by warlord as half assed as a zombie line
2027 - warlord bought by hornby, still a legacy line
2030 - aventine funko pop editions

>>92536718
That was the company whose sculpts started to rapidly decline in quality not too long ago. I remember somebody posting an image of a before and after and it made me think their sculptor might have suffered a stroke.

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>>92536968
That was literally me. Fuck me, going to need to save cash to buy their Imperial Romans and Etruscans in bulk.

>>92536985
>green sculpts

oh ok, so the line is worthless to buy. warlord will definately buy it for the trash pile then

>>92536985
Can't say that I'm fond of their work but I doubt it will disappear. A company will surely buy the masters and molds, maybe Gripping Beast if you're lucky. They seem to be doing a good job of picking things up lately.

>>92537068
It's too big for Warlord.
>>92537076
Maybe.

>>92523727
That's a good thing. Since I'll be waiting for the V3 to do more purchases, I'll stop adding shit to my pile of shame, and will be able to paint some of the stuff that's been waiting since 2021 or something.
Also, what the guys at W*rlord said about it doesn't sound too bad, getting rid of the bloat and recalculating the prices of some units will be for the better if they do it right. That's a big "if" though.

>>92534411
PLEASE UNFUCK LIGHT MORTARS
Light mortars were a key element of platoon-level infantry tactics in WW2 (and still are for most armies, in the form of underbarrel grenade launchers), yet they suck AIDS-ridden cock in BA. Also, it would be great if they brained out a way to make heavy tanks worth their price in points. When you're playing with friends, you can agree on retarded rules such as "2000 pts, 12 dice" so that you can break out the Pershings and King Tigers, but most of the time, the cool heavies you bought when you got into the game end up gathering dust at home and never see the field again.

>>92528501
What this anon >>92530824 said, Heroics&Ros minis are a much better investment. GHQ stuff looks better H&R figurines, but not three times better... while being three times as expensive.

>>92534234
What ruleset do you play? Sometimes, it helps to look for a club or community that's built around one specific wargame. It's also a way to get initiated to a game you're not too familiar with!.

Then, if you already have a game you like playing and an army (preferably two), you can also hang out in tabletop wargaming communities, online or IRL, and ask around. You could very well lure out someone who hasn't playing this game in years, because there wasn't anyone to play with, but who'd like to get back into the game, or find someone who has never played your game/era/setting, but is interested in it. Also, this: >>92534269 . Normiebook is where the older players are, and they like their historicals.

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>>92531667
They are pretty shit I was looking at their ranges and wtf is this paint

>>92537444
The only pricey tank I’ve ever had worth taking is the wirbelwind because it deletes squads who get caught out instantly. But play against someone halfway competent and they’ll kill it because open topped immediately

It sucks when deploying an SDK with panzerbusche is the best trade into a heavy tank I have because it’s a less than 100pt suicide bomb

>>92530824
Lmao bro, they said; essays are 90% rhetoric ,they said.

>>92536718
their imperial romans and pyrrhic line always tempted me, but I never pulled the trigger because a massive 28mm project was always just too much for me to justify.

I'm sure we'll see their lovely older sculpts cast in Warlord Resintm down the line

>>92534411
I hope they add in Antares' reaction system, and maybe even its Multiple Order Dice rules.
Also make LMGs better costed so they aren't only good for Germans and Vets and give MMGs... Something. I'd personally make MMGs give a pin regardless of if they hit or not, and maybe D3 when they do hit, so you can actually use them to suppress infantry.

>>92538262
D3+1 is a lot of pins. That’s more than a heavy mortar.

>>92537881
I'm pissed since I had a rough ten years and now I'm finally getting it in order. Good job, apartment and all that. Helping a family member with some serious house renovations but I should buy able to start saving cash later this year for a massive spending spree at Aventine.

>>92537738
As a Soviet player, I love wirbelwinds, it's so fun to chuck grenades into their open turrets lol. Pin'em a bit so that their reaction fire isn't accurate, and send some cavalry or forward-deployed Tank Hunters to kill them in close quarters!
>>92538262
>>92538850
One pin when they fire, one pin if they hit? But that's a rule I'd only give to MMG/HMG units, while vehicle-mounted machine guns would keep their current rules.

>>92538850
>>92539684
I meant one if they miss, D3 if they hit, but one when they fire and one when they hit is a better compromise I think. And yeah, I'd make that exclusive to infantry MMGs and HMGs. I just feel like giving them a more suppressive role would help give them more of a niche in the game

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>>92536718
Shit, I thought you were joking... I'll have to get what I need to end my Pyrrhic War project this year, it's the only decent hellenistic manufacturer within the EU.

Do you guys prefer 1st or 2nd edition AK47 republic? I'm really not sure which to go with.

>>92536968
>>92536985
>>92537068
>>92537076
I mean, I know there are a couple of minis that don't look that good, but a huge portion of their line looks incredible. Their Sassanids and most of their Successor line are amazing.

>>92540584
In fact, are there any other good Hellenistic manufacturers anywhere?

>>92540584
Shit....I made the mistake of waiting to buy a Legio Heroica army or three for years: I had better not do the same now with Aventine...

>tfw most of the handsculpting boomers will shut down in the next decade leaving us with nothing but CAD slop

>>92542508
Yes. But we'll mostly be dead by then anyway.

>>92542682
vast vast majority of stuff is already 3d. No big company is going to invest in greens with the difference in IP lifespan.

Anons, I'm traveling to San Francisco soon due to work. Any stores where I can buy decent /hwg/ stuff? Especially Ancients. I'm a thirdie and it would make a ton of sense to bring minis back with me instead of importing them, saving quite a few dollars.

>>92544146
I mean instead of having them shipped here -- shipping costs a ton, and I have to pay extra taxes if I have something delivered from overseas.

>>92544146
Which part of San Francisco? Like SF proper or the SF Bay area?

But also no. Game Kastle, which has a few locations in the area, has the "biggest" selection in that they carry Flames of War (though a decent amount of that if you want some WWII 15mm at MSRP). Every other game store in the area has nothing historical for sale. And don't ever go to Games of Berkley, they are the single most pozzed game store I have ever walked into.

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>>92537660
>>92531667
>zoomers complaining about low resolution pics

You don't know how good Baccus is compared to other 6mm boomer producers. Even having pics at all or a website not made in the early 90s is a luxury!

>>92544394
SF proper, yes. Kek at the Berkley comment. Too bad then, thought maybe I could save some money that way. Perhaps I'll try and get a nice gaming mat then, if any of the stores carry those. Thanks, anon

>>92544802
Gamescape in SF I think has gaming matts.

And for context, Games of Berkely JUST removed their mask mandate to make them optional.

>>92544914
>Games of Berkely JUST removed their mask mandate to make them optional
Thats sad. Even the hospitals around here ended their mask mandates last spring and they were the last hold out.

>>92531194
Way back when, I would go to certain British wargame shows and there were always some nutters who had like two or three painters tables put together for massive demo games of 'large' 25mm horse and musket/Napoleonic/ACW battles. One hell of a spectacle but I can barely imagine the movement phase. Can't find any images sadly.

>>92544394
Agree with this anon, games of Berkeley is shit. Also there’s a communist book store right next to it.

>>92531667
So are the figures they sell. What you see there is what you get.

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>>92537660
Yea the paint jobs on their pics are tragic, because the figures themselves can be painted up very nicely

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>60+ figure batallions
>individually based
Were boomers retarded?

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>>92547623
>only 60
Boomers need to step up their game

>>92547754
>individual casualty removal intensifies

>>92544532
I wonder how much money they lose because people are hesitant to buy stuff that doesn't have pics

>>92544532
>>92548039
Irregular is annoying
I'm interested in their HYW period stuff and their late medieval ireland 6mm but I don't wanna buy cause I have no idea what the fuck any of it looks like cause they only post shit images of like a quarter of the ranges.
They techically have pics of their HYW French and English packs but they're from a foot away and have the resolution of a jpg from 1999
The Galloglass, Kern, and Horseboys? No pics, no idea

>>92547623
What is he playing? Looks like the battle of the Pelennor Fields.

>>92548449
from his wargaming campaigns book it says it's from one of his Hyborian campaigns

>>92547855
>remove casualty
>have to go to the hospital

>>92548672
It's not a proper battle if blood has not been shed.

Can anyone recommend a system for WW2 company actions that has a good degree of detail and granularity, but doesn't call for casualty removal the way Battlegroup does? I want to play with multibased 10mm minis and tracking casualties on every squad base would just be a pain.

>>92549628
No game is perfect, but any of O-Group, Blitzkrieg Commander, or Flames of War might do what you need.
BKC and O-Group are both more like Battalion actions with each stand representing a platoon, but are better games than FoW in my opinion.
Other games I own but haven't yet tried (I collect rules!) include Combat HQ, PBI, and Iron Cross.

>>92547754
Holy Shit

>>92550025
Just wait until you see the recreation of a section of the exceptionally deep Seleucid phalanx at Magnesia in 28mm.

>>92548039
I don't buy from them exactly because their picture look like shit
They have a few range that I'm interested in but there are either no pictures of them or extremely badly painted photos
Also the casting looks like shit

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>>92548360
From experience, their 6mm casts are "impressionist". I had difficulties with recognizing and differentiating the unwanted greablis - flash, remains from slipped molds, etc. from the stuff that should be there - weaponry, clothing, limbs...
In general you get out of them what you put in at the painting stage. Works better for some of the eras and strips than others. Italian Wars wasn't much fun for me.

For medieval 6mm I'd recommend Heroics & Ros, but they leave out the 14th century. If you're not too fussy, you might get by with a mix of their Crusader and WotR lines?

>>92550644
>>92550627
I hope when I'm old I can afford and have the time to do this.

so basically the people meming about 28mm phalanxes have been categorically nogames this whole time, got it

28mm is not for mass battles, if you thought about it let alone tried it for 10 minutes you'd understand

>>92550644
Beautiful. You got cataphracts too, by any chance?

>>92546848
>Even the hospitals around here ended their mask mandates last spring and they were the last hold out.
Hospitals and doctors office makes sense. Those are the only places I still wear a mask cause you are legit surrounded by sick people. But if you are playing board games and are so paranoid just stay home.

>>92551497
i thought most 28mm games for pre 1900s were about "each of these 20 guys represent a dozen of soldiers."

was Bulgaria even a thing in Team Yankee or Flames of War?

>>92551497
In my experience 28mm is a fucking slog for anything bigger than a few skirmish bands of ten foot, maybe 5 mounted and a ballista or elephant. Its awesome for skirmishing. You don't need more than a few boxes of guys per side for a good game in 28mm. But beyond that is a weird kimf of torture. You're gonna drop your painting standard and terrain a scale as soon as you're painting more than a hundred or so figures for a project. In 28mm that's a real challenge if I'm being honest.

>>92556857
28mm is only viable when you're a retired boomer.

>>92556892
I just hate assembly and cleanup more than I like painting and playing lol. It's torture in 28mm. You can't miss a trick even if your paint job will be simple.

I think if I had my time again I'd go 15mm for skirmish and 6mm for mass battles

>>92556901
>assembly
Plastic fag spotted! Though getting rid of mould lines and flash is torture on small miniatures.

>>92553588
I think that’s true of smaller scale mass battle too. I’ve never assumed “Alexander the Great” is leading maybe 150 15mm phalangites and cavalry, I assume each individual stand representa hundreds or even thousands of soldiers.

>>92556857
IMO
>28mm
10-20 guys per side
>15mm
100-300 “guys” per side
>6mm
Battalion or regiment size
>2mm
Division size

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Looking forward to another season of garden gaming

>>92556995
>Plastic fag spotted!

Orly

>>92557135
I'm more like
2-6 units of 5-10 28mm
8-16 of 15mm
X2 x2 of 6mm
So, 60, 120, 300 figures thereabouts in a game
More than a few hundred is asking too much even in 6mm lol

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I don't trust warlord, are there any good historical alternative rulesets for this models? And I mean without the meme history that bolt action represents.

>>92557372
Basic Impetus or full Impetus, To the Strongest if a grid is ok, Sword & Spear for more involved activation process,... all quality options for multi-based w/o figure removal.

>>92557290
When I said “guys” I meant actual models, at 15mm that might be 4-10 soldiers, at 6mm that might be 10-20 soldiers, and at 2mm that might be entire formations of dozens of guys. So 100-300 “guys” per side might mean 18-30 stands per side.

>>92557372
>alternative
Bro, just use whatever rules you want. It's history, nobody owns the copyright to Waffen SS or Romans.

>>92557609
That what I'm asking, good rulesets for this models.

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My wargame club has guys who only do WW2, guys who only do Napoleonics, guys who only do naval, guys who only do aviation, guys who only do colonial, etc. I may as well just go all in on being the guy who does Vietnam.

Been playing Charlie Don't Surf using Tabletop Simulator the last few months and I can confidently say its my personal gold standard for Vietnam wargaming. I've enjoyed it so much that I've decided to buy a boatload of 15s despite already owning a huge collection of Vietnam 28mm. Company level games at 28mm would just be too cramped so I needed a smaller scale. Anyways I finally finished my first 2 companies for use with the game. Was my first time painting 15s, it was paradoxically easier yet simultaneously more difficult than painting 28s. I will definitely go back and touch up a few things on em, but I'm short on time due to having a convention game soon so just needed to hammer these out to a tabletop quality fast.

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>>92557930

Question
Is there a massive size difference between Peter pig miniatures and battle front miniatures?
Trying to get a WW2 Japanese force going and don’t want it to be too out of whack with the flames of war models

>>92551497
>>92553588
>>92557124
It is, anyone pretending that 28mm is "10 guys taking a flag for a ride" while smaller scales are "true" should just take a fucking look at any 6mm, 10mm, or 15mm army and realize you're also making concessions there as well. With 15mm it's 20 guys taking a flag for a ride, with 10mm it's 40, and so on and so on. You're never going to be able to represent an entire army accurately, not even in 2mm.

Having said that, I feel like mass battles have different appeals at different scales. You can definitely get 100+ models a side for a 28mm game if you have a big table, and it's a beautiful spectacle. Nicely painted 28mm look SO incredibly good.
But smaller scales do have other qualities, and the spectacle is a different thing, you get a better massed feel, etc. I think all scales are good in their own way -- 28mm could work for mass battles, and even 10mm could work for skirmish.

>>92558849
They are slightly smaller and thinner

>>92559132
One major advantage of smaller miniature scales is the reduced footprints they have on the tabletop. This allows for either many troops on the battlefield for the epic mass feel or gives more space for maneuver. I enjoy especially the latter in division-corps level napoleonics. When your troops can only cover parts of the battlefield, concentration and outflanking become something you really have to think about. I think this adds a nice twist on games that often seem to be just lines from one table edge to the other advancing at each other and after rolling several buckets worth of dice one player emerges victorious.

what are the best company level ww2 and ww3 rulesets?

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>>92559687
>One major advantage of smaller miniature scales is the reduced footprints they have on the tabletop

I'm going to add to this and say: reduced footprints whilst still having units that look more like units. You can do small units with 28mm figures but then it becomes 6 guys and a flag or 2 dudes on horses and such to start getting into comparative tablespace gains. And in this time where everything seems to be trending towards small fast skirmish games because of people not having time and space to play big battles, small scale figures are essential to getting that big battle game in.

>>92559751
Chain of Command

>>92559858
that's not company level that's like, one small platoon of a couple squads.

>>92557930
>>92557944
Looking good, anon
I’ll be embarking in a similar journey as well
Are those battlefront miniatures?

>>92559751
WW2: Peter Pig's Poor Bloody Infantry. The edition in the trove not the recent one.

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Is it worth to grab an Afrikakorps starter from Warlord for €80? I don't plan to play Bolt Action only but since it's the most popular historical game around I have to give it a try eventually.

>>92561686
I'd say grab a Battlefront starter for about 50 in your currency. One of those that has infantry and vehicles. Gives you two companies from the get-go. You can still play Bolt Action with that + you can try the dozens of company (or larger - counting the stands as squads) size games with that box.

Anyone know of any good scenario books for napoleons hypothetical invasion of britian?

>>92561841
>I'd say grab a Battlefront starter
But I want to collect and play 28mm.

>>92559851
Now that's a good looking board and comfy 6mm armies.

>>92561686
>>92562177
up to you but they'll probably package the third ed rules in with army sets if you want to wait.

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>>92562177
No you don't. It's either 54mm or 15 and smaller. That's what you want. Noone actually likes that neither-fish-nor-flesh scale.
https://youtu.be/Eh2sbi1cBnc?si=QmA4DO_lNWxeNT4E

>>92559751
Battlegroup.

>>92559851
Battlemat or terrain built?

>>92559132
>You're never going to be able to represent an entire army accurately, not even in 2mm.
You probably could but it would entail massive bases and tables to play on and if you’re that autistic you’re better off just using TO&E symbols and unit names glued to bases.

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>>92553588
You can go even go with 10:1 for the AWI since most battalions were severely understrength. Only in the colonies could 120 men be considered a 'battalion'

>>92563354
tbqh for my 10mm AWI I originally went for 20:1
but I've painted enough stuff that for smaller campaigns I could easily do 10:1

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though, having said that, continental units were ordered to merge into other units for battles if they were less than 2 company strength (160 men) !

>>92560340
A majority of it is Battlefront. Charlie Don’t Surf requires certain HQ models to be on single bases so I have a couple of Flashpoint miniatures to fill in the gaps of what the Battlefront boxes didn’t have, like more medics, additional platoon commanders, RTOs, Forward observers, all on single penny bases

i am very, very drunk ladss

>>92562453
Are you okay mate?

>>92561841
battlefront puts barely any infantry in those starter sets though.

since someone is talking about 15mm bolt action, is PSC still the better option? i checked their page but it seems they haven't made any new WW2 kit in ages. I thought they were going to remake their old thin infantry kits

>>92563534
YEAH haha

>>92534411
I've never had an issue with MMGs desu
I parked some within 12 of a building and spent two turns shooting into it and slowly chipping away at the Pioneers inside and it worked fine for me

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>>92521428
I have both Pike and Shotte epic and Waterloo epic from Warlord. I also have Gettysburg epic but that hasn't been assembles yet. God, this is an expensive addiction

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>>92564274
wait until you start on real minis boy

Anyone here buy into Gangs of Rome 2? I missed the kickstarter but just ordered a copy.

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>>92564274
Anon, why are you buying more shit if you haven't already polished off your pile of shame?

I have three vehicles to finish and about a dozen Soviet infantry to assemble and paint. Why are you dumping more cash into projects when you haven't finished your first?

Do you think chronic weedheads buy more weed when they haven't finished smoking their first batch? Do smack addicts horde smack without needles? Do sex addicts just gather interested ladies without having sex with any of them in the interest of procuring even more sex?

Honestly ask yourself these questions, and get to work. Stop whipping out the credit card, and start whipping out the paintbrush. You'll thank me for it someday.

>>92553588
1:20 is an ambitious figure ratio in 15mm
It's just that 28mm boomers are retarded and can't help themselves
Also a reminder that the number of figures in each Perry box are that way because that's the way that the Perry bros do it in their personal wargaming

>>92564274
>>92564459
perfect warlord consoomer. Piles of plastic shit, will never play and realize it's a terrible product.

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>>92521428
Anyone here tried Kings of War Historical? How is it?
There's a copy at the LGS gathering dust in the used books section. Might pick it up if it is good.

>>92564486
I have mostly stayed out of this thread because your weird fixation on manufacturers is mental illness. I thought maybe just letting you blow off steam might cause you to shift your focus to something productive.

>if you're new here play with whatever damn well pleases you

>>92566753
Tbh I think 90% of what is needed is covered in the generic KOW human list heh

>>92564274
kek retard. you're not better than GW zoomers and yet you think you're smarter than them because you fool yourself into thinking you're playing historical games. you have a pile of shame of little plastic men in historical fortnite skins that may as well be space marines

>>92567228
Weird how you're bringing the weirdly demotivating mentality of those games with you. Let him own or not own what he wishes. It's a lifelong hobby. My only advice would be to start painting.

You guys really are a bunch of bitter psychos.

>>92567241
go fuck yourself, faggot. i do what i want and we need to gatekeep GW babies out of the hobby. look at what happens when redditors like you infect hobbies. the results speak for themselves
>You guys really are a bunch of bitter psychos.
kek. do something about it (you won't)

>>92564408
I don't start no kicks, ever. Buuut those civvies are. Looking good for a servile war game

>>92567256
You're encapsulating the whole GW mentality, insofar as your priorities are fucked up, someone getting into historicals could always do worse than buying some plastic starters. Ten to one you come from GW origins, are American, and have the historical reading of an intestinal worm. You couldn't gatekeep your own arsehole. Let him buy and do what he wants.

>>92567228
>>92567256
Are the GW babies in the room with us right now, anon?

>>92567274
He's just mentally unwell. He goes on about the same thing every thread like there is a gun to his head as far as mini choices go lol. Normally I tell him to fuck off, I genuinely thought he might run himself ragged given he contributes asbolutely nothing else.

>he's replying to himself now
kek. every time

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The only gatekeeping that needs to happen is against pets and toddlers.
And watch where you step!

>>92567354
Nice, and back on topic

>>92567354
Enamel based and triple coats of varnish pilled.

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>>92567553
<- "Verdun"
From the Funny Little Wars blog. Boomers happily puttering around with Wellsian rules.
Thinking of doing a bit of garden gaming myself this year. So far I have no 40+mm minis, so I'll have to do with cheap 1/72s. Less of an issue if troops get lost in the jungle.
Something like What a Tanker should also work quite well, as long as you have a table to keep your accessories and dice pools.

>>92563407
Of course, but it does mean that '12 guys taking a flag for a walk' is actually a reasonable representation of 120 men with their battalion flag and two grand division flags.

You also end up having to do cavalry at 5:1 to avoid the bizarre situation of having just two guys representing two-three troops

I've been reading short stories about the Franco-Prussian War recently
Does anyone here wargame it?

>>92567778
Anyone ever play with the Funny Little Wars or Little Campaigns books?
I see them mentioned but they aren’t in the trove and only available physically plus shipping.

>>92537444
Oh shit, Light Mortars. I actually forgot they exist, they are so shit I stopped using them outside of the one Africakorps recon platoon thats seen the table once. Gods yes, please unfuck them

>>92534411
I did a short writeup on FB but lets see
>Nerf the ever living shit out of Dakka tonks, or implement a system myself and a friend were discussing whereby all closed top vehicles have a -1 to hit with their MG's
>Realistic/LOS ranges with a units maximum range now becoming its "short" range
>Bamboo Banzai rushes get removed
>Some way to balance initiative - right now small elite forces get completely out manoeuvred by hordes of untrained troops thanks to the dice system
>Fix snipers so they dont just straight up delete weapon teams
>Make historically accurate lists viable
>Remove the meme special rules, if we are going to have special rules/national rules, then make them reflect the actual army, not some Hollywood meme
>Make shotguns not shit, right now they are the same price as an Assault Rifle
>Make AFV's more granular and less abstract than the current system
>Allow units to react if an enemy unit activates/moves in their LOS. And let units conduct defensive fire if assaulted
>Someone else suggested that Assaults should be resolved at the end of the turn, allowing other units to dogpile in if needed to provide support
>Possibly remove artillery from smaller games and a have a more abstract set for larger scale games where artillery can actually be on the table without making one ask whats gone so horribly wrong
>Go back to the HE dice. Fuck templates. They are far too small anyway.
>Spotters become their own separate unit rather than being part of the mortars unit, my mortar should be able to maintain fire whilst the spotter repositions
>Playtest, playtest, playtest, and playtest some more

A friend of mine wants to play some medieval wargame and asked me for a wargame and providers. He doesn't know much about history, he just simply plays Age of Empires 2. I sent him to Lion Rampant. What other simple games are out there? 40-60 miniatures per side is OK.

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>>92568936
Andy Callan also did Never Mind the Billhooks which is a bit more involved.

>>92568467
No, I couldn't find proper rules for it.

10mm or 15mm for prussian/victorian era warfare? I don't even want rules I just want to collect some and then I'll see if i ever use them

>>92567274
Yes anon they are. In fact they are in this vary thread, they could be anyone, him, you, even ME.

i want to start a hwg project of some kind. i don't have many people to play with around here, so the main focus initially will be constructing things for me to fiddle around with at home and make cool looking minis for now :~).

it's hard for me to decide on an era, as many of them seem somewhat interesting to me. i like napoleonics a lot, but i also very much enjoy anything early medieval quite a lot! WW2 seems interesting as well, but not sure where i'd start there either.

Longshot, but does anyone have the new Wargames Illustrated yet? Looking for the Never Mind the Ruckus rules.

>>92570655
Been waiting for my LGS to get it for more than a week now.

>>92570655
It won't be out till the 27th at the very earliest

>>92570655
>>92570668
Mine still has like 25 copies of the last one but no sign of the new one. Hopefully by next weekend

>>92568564
Only seen it on Lulu and in some Brit shops. Yeah, it's a bit pricey for a booklet of what seems a couple(?) of mods to Little Wars.

>>92569198
Thanks Anon, will give it a try. Seems simple and quick.
>>92570439
Ancient Greece and Rome period is really colorful. There's a plenty of diferent armies to pick.

>>92570439
A good starting point for inspiration:
https://wargamingmiscellany.blogspot.com
Has links to other tinkerer blogs as well as his Portable Wargame, a simple and eminently tweakable 2 page rule set.
>Cool minis
A bit out of the mainstream, a couple years removed from Napoleonics, check out the colourful tricorn era of the Seven Years War and the Cabinet wars. Also ideal for Imagination campaigns - perfect for the soloist.
A fine fast-play ruleset for this era is Honours of War - comes in one of those Osprey Blue Books.

>>92570439
Sounds like me. Buy a Mike Lambo wargame book and make custom minis/map for it. Fun, solo, and lots of room for custom stuff

How much effort do you guys put into 15mm infantry? I feel lazy doing a basic basecoat-wash-brighten but my hands are not steady enough to do highlights on details that tiny.

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>>92575487
You shouldn't be spending more than 15 mins per model in terms of brushwork if you have a plan, whatever the result is it's probably good enough if you are happy with it.

Inks should be doing a lot of your work, and detail quality is very important when picking mini lines

What are some recommendations for reading and documentaries about Sengoku Jidai era of Japan? Shogun 2 was my favorite Total War, and just finished Blue Eyed Samurai and watching Shogun on Disney+ rn, so I'm going full weeb mode.

>>92575539
Thanks anon, makes me feel less like a hack. I'm currently working on 3D printed models with really nice details so I want to do them justice, but it's just physically unfeasible to get the smallest ones.

>>92575487
You should paint every detail clearly and cleanly
Too often people treat small scales as an excuse to just smear paint everywhere but the key to painting 15mm is to paint things cleanly and simply
Don't go too heavy on the wash
>>92575545
The situation is very dire in English
The best books you'll find are the Osprey editions which you can find in the OP MEGA folders BUT they are based on very outdated information
A History of Japan by George Sansom is a pretty decent narrative history which covers the period but you have a lot of moralism in it, for example the guy is convinced that Oda Nobunaga is an evil bastard and that Hideyoshi is just wonderful

>>92575937
>You should paint every detail clearly and cleanly
Of course I do my best, but I'm talking about things like highlighting facial features. Like hell I can do that at this scale.
>Don't go too heavy on the wash
Yeah, I need to do a better job with that. I do like things looking grimy but I'm aware I'm a bit too heavyhanded with it.

>>92575545
The Shogunate channel on YouTube has a long series on the Sengoku period. It's a nice watch but I'm not sure if you want something more in-depth.

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>>92575487
Basecoat, wash and a single very bright highlight does the trick.

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I know I shouldn't get into 28mm, but these perry sculpts are so darn beautiful...

>>92576822
Just buy and paint some for display. You don’t need a whole army.

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Has anyone here run an imagi-nations campaign? I'd love to here anons' experiences with it

>>92564486
Anon I played two games within this month and I'm just finishing my Commandos for the third.

Don't be a hater

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Someone has the pdf for Martinstaat 1744? I search in various troves but nothing.

>>92577096
been setting one up for about a year but never got round to playing it cos I've been stuck with other projects
I did buy a few books for the subject like pic related, I might test out a game of Sylvesters campaign guide with my 2mm matchstick armies now that I have the terrain

>>92529493
what game?

>>92577096
No but it is a fantastic read as most Curry reprints are. Emphasis on most, maybe a quarter are the last dregs of the summer wine hehe...most are pretty good and the rules often very usable

>>92578205
The thing id understand is the point is sort of proven. He doesn't like warlord. Many experienced gamers do. I am about 50/50 - its as good a starting point for your forces as any. No gates are really being kept, he created something in his own imagination. I have been wargaming since 1998

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>>92575545
As someone who has been working on a Sengoku Jidai large scale battles wargame project on and off for a couple of years now, you are very well catered for if you can read moonrunes as there's been a veritable renaissance in Japanese historical studies in the past couple of decades, completely upending many long-held ideas about the era with just massively better scholarship. Unfortunately I can't read moonrunes and have to get what little bits filter through from those who can.
Things I can recommend from a wargaming perspective:
Samurai Weapons and Fighting Techniques by Thomas Conlan: this one is a solid all around overview of generally up-to-date information on the warfare of the period and a bit of the earlier stuff which helps establish things and gives a decent idea on how things worked.
The (few) books available from Hellion & Company. They're recent, they use primary sources and up-to-date stuff.
"Samurai Armies of the Late Sengoku Period volume 1 & 2" recently translated, and importantly - updated, from German originals, these are absolute ideal wargamer materials with masses of stuff on all the stuff you need for colours, banners, organisation and such.
Video stuff: (avoid the fuck out of kings and generals holy shit they're utter garbage):
Bazbattles: seemingly dead channel but their work on sengoku jidai battles was done in coordination with someone who read up-to-date stuff and they did some decent work on them.
The Shogunate: is fine, they acknowledge their older videos are not up to spec, background noise tier. But look for channels they do vids in coordination with, some of those are decent too.

Problem after reading all of these you'll probably be annoyed by just how utterly fucking wrong about everything Shogun 2 is. You might want to get into Nobunaga's ambition. I'd recommend Sphere of Influence or Awakening, though one thing The Shogunate is good for is his game reviews and guides.

>>92579375
NTA but I've recently been getting obsessed with the Boshin War thanks to Shogun II FotS, and I'm also upset over how wrong it is. I feel your pain.

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>>92544532
Old Glory's ECW 10mm range has been like this for ages. No real idea what they look like.

>>92579699
Blind buying tiny men is a privilege

>>92575666
to be fair satan detail quality means not putting on details that are too small for brushwork. That's a problem with 3d game modelers doing miniatures without knowing the hobby. They can do details but not "quality" in terms of painting.

Anyone have reccomendations for reference materials on the Albigensian Crusade?
Also just that timeframe in france/western europe in general. The Angevin Empire and it's fall after the Anglo French War in the 13th century are also of interest

But I mainly want to read about the Cathars and the milotary conflict surrounding them and Languedoc

>>92568650
The worst part is that Dakka Stuarts should never have had that rule in the first place.
I mean, the two machine gun on the sides are put in fixed positions and fired by the driver by pulling a cord. They can't be aimed AT ALL, and shoot in the general direction of the tank. These should always hit on a 6+6 or something.
The same goes for the MMG in the commander's micro turret-hatch-thing on the M3 Lee. It doesn't have any sights, and could be either fired blindly or from an open hatch by the tank commander, who'd try to use the tracers to fire at the intended target. Slap a massive buff on this machine gun as well.
The machine guns on StuG IIIs should be made optional and reserved to late war versions/lists as well, as both pintle ones and coaxial ones are something that happened from 1944 onwards.

The one thing I'd like to add to Bolt Action V3 has zero chance to be implemented though.
It would be a case-by-case redistribution of range, HE and Pen values for cannons, to represent certain guns having good/bad shells for this or that role.
For example, the Panther's gun was a stellar AT weapon, of course, but had a garbage HE shell, which wasn't noticeably better than the one on the 50mm Pak 38. Give it +7 Pen and a 1" HE template, and make it the specialized AT weapon it was in real life. In order to differentiate between the German super-heavy guns, give the 88/L71 and 128mm ones longer ranges. Give the American/British 75mm the +5 Pen/2" HE combo without a special rule. Entirely remove the HE shell from British 2 pounders and French 25mms, since they didn't have them at all. Give the short barrel Panzer IVs and Panzer III N a +4 Pen value, but at short ranges only. Give the ZiS-2 a +6 Pen value, but a short range, and let it keep its weaksauce 1" HE shell. Give Solothurn AT rifles (infantry and vehicle ones) a +3 Pen value. There's room for improvement and for the suppression of some rules, without adding new mechanics to the game.

>>92580742
Warlord's response: What's that; you want some history in your historical wargame? Outtahere.

>>92568650
They MIGHT do like, 2 of those

>>92580742
Templates stop weird bunching up of troopa and keep em moving.

>>92580761
Well, with so many metal manufacturers retiring you gotta support them while you can or one scale will be ubqiuitous... and people will be trying to match to it and not the other way round

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>>92579930
I hate the majority of 3d sculpts, they're ridiculously detailed and badly posed.

3d hack sculptors be like
>here's your 6mm mini

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>nooo you can't use 28mm it's too bi-

>>92583227
>playing on the floor
No thanks

>>92580700
Jonathan Sumption has a book on it which is excellent

>>92583227
>Individually based
That’s just inconvenient. Also if I wanted to play on the floor I’d just do what >>92563071 suggests with actual 2mm regiments on some sort of 6 inch wide bases.

>>92584556
>That’s just inconvenient.
Is it, though? Wouldn't it be just better to play any system you want to play?
Want to go for DBA/FoG/any traditionally based system? Get them in groups of three. Want to play Impetus/Hail Gaysar/TtS? Get movement trays. Want to play WAB or a WAB clone? You're in luck.

>>92585019
Why would I ever want to play WAB?

>>92585858
Nostalgia is a hell of a drug, anon

Now I'm far from an expert on the arms and armor of the time period but I'm assuming that Perry's Agincourt Plastics are not appropriate for the Battle of Crecy and that surrounding time.
So what's my best option without breaking the bank? I know that Claymore makes great stuff but I'm not trying to spend a fortune on metals and shipping them to the USA. Does anyone make a good line of printable models?

Bit of a longshot, but years ago someone here posted rules for a game simulating a riot, with one player as the rioters and another as the response. I think it was specifically modeled for French Revolution type stuff, but was kind of agnostic on setting, really. Does anyone happen to have it, or any idea where I could look further? Thanks.

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Thinking about starting 6mm moderns, specifically the 1980s era. Thought about maybe going the Team Yankee route for ruleset. What other rulesets should I consider?

>>92586597
Sounds like a Jim Wallman game. Little Lambient Meteors maybe.

>>92586683
Fistful of tows
northag

>>92586542
I went down a rabbit hole trying to find this exact period last week. For early "28mm" 14th century figures all I could find were wargames foundry and old glory 25mms.

>>92586683
Battlegroup Northag

>>92580700
+1ing this anon's recommendation >>92584459 . Excellent history. There's also the Perfect Heresy by Stephen O'Shea, as a chaser. There was a (mid) article in a WSS a few years ago about the battle of Muret too.

>>92563629
Their summer soviet infantry are the worst things I've ever seen. Just get Peter Pig or Forged in Battle.

So there are a shitload of WW2 wargaming rulesets out there. What among them have particularly good rules for tank actions? Not just tank vs. tank, but just...anything involving them.

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Trying to write up an LZ X-Ray/Ia Drang scenario for my new 15mm Nam collection. After doing research on the battle I’m for sure going to have to simplify things because it’d be too difficult to try to simulate all the moving parts and details of the battle. Figure I’d just land a company of US troops in the middle of a valley per turn over the next 4 turns (A, B, C, than the heavy weapons company) while the North Vietnamese get to deploy as blinds on any edge of the table with the goal of overrunning American forces, first as a small force, than an increasing sized force every 2 turns. Americans will have air/artillery support with an ability to call broken arrow that gives them access to 3 times their normal air support for one turn but it can only be called when a perimeter is breached. Will probably try to bake in the spotting blinds rules from CDS so the Americans are encouraged to send out recon patrols to figure out which approaching blinds are the enemy and which are empty so they are forced to be proactive in figuring which direction enemies are coming from and force them to use tactical reserves to respond to enemy movements instead of letting them just park their asses on their positions.

haven’t settled on a good battalion level rule yet, will probably just settle for FOW Nam because it’s easy enough to teach to people for a convention/club game

Any ideas on what I can add to this? My issue with defense missions is they might be a bit boring for the defender as they’re just sitting around waiting for the enemy to come at them, not making many tactical decisions or movements. Or have suggestions for a battalion level Cold War game that’s easy to teach to new players at a convention? I normally prefer Vietnam wargames that include elements of insurgent warfare like ambushes and hit and run but as this scenario is recreating a straight up slugfest, the need for those types of things aren’t necessary so any Cold War game should do

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>>92586683
I really like 7 days to the River Rhine. Works great groundscale wise at 6mm, and is very easy to pick up and play. It's a platoon to company scale ruleset, so a good starting point before getting into weightier games.

>>92588562
What a Tanker! is great for making you feel like you're commanding a metal box with a gun operated by fallible, squishy humans, rather than an RC car. For joint operations, Chain of Command will put a fear in you for life of bazookas and panzerfausts the second you put a tank on the table.

>>92586597
>>92586941
It is. Here. Guy as all kinds of neat stuff.
http://jimwallman.org.uk/free-wargames/

>>92589700
>>92586941
That was it exactly, thanks a ton

>>92588979
you may find something useful at juniorgeneral.org/vietnam/vietnam.html

>>92586683
FFoT
Seven Days to the Rhine

People also say northag but for what ever reason I bounced hard off of it.

>>92586683
Mein Panzer
>https://www.odgw.com/products/meinpanzer/meinpanzer.html

>>92591723
The ORBAT in there actually helps a lot, the whole article helps a lot. thank you.

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I'd like to make some buildings/villages for my 10mm War of Spanish Succession games but am not sure about how big I should make the models; since the units on the table represent much larger bodies of men, how big/small should the buildings be in comparison?

Does anyone have some good examples of small scale terrain villages/buildings?

>>92592095
>People also say northag but for what ever reason I bounced hard off of it.

It wasn't exactly an amazing game. Or rather, the deck was stacked against it in a lot of ways. The PSC miniatures were shit, most people playing 80's stuff wanted later so they could play with the fancy toys, or at least if doing early '80s more interesting forces than the UK's dismal excuse of an army. It's basically there for if you're already a fan of Battlegroup and how it works, and happen to not be put off by the incredibly limited scope (brits are like the 4th most played late cold war army after USSR, USA and West Germans).

I struggle to think of a reason why I would ever use them over another game system unless it was a gun to my head choice between that and Team Yankee or a Bolt Action mod. Because actual other options like you say FFoT and Seven Days to the Rhine, they're very recommendable.

>>92592577
You should first figure out your ground scale. From that you can derive the size of your settlements. For 10mm I would suggest 6mm buildings to fill the settlement footprints.
Total Battle Miniatures offers a nice range of scenery in different scales.

Anyone have a pdf copy of Wargamers Guide to Up Front?

>>92592577
I use 6mm buildings(mostly battlescale) for my 10mm figures, works very well

>Seven Days to the Rhine
Anyone got pdf of it? It's not in niether our archive or Vola.

>>92593372
Here ya go mate
https://ufile.io/pmeq4j12

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>>92592577
I'd probably suggest 6mm as well, the next realistic step down is 3mm and those are quite small. I play in 6mm and use a filthy mix of 6mm buildings and not-to-scale buildings I've just made myself for some extra villages, but at some point I think I'll make a big order and grab a bunch of the 3mm Total Battle miniatures buildings and villages.

>>92586542
Correct, the Perry stuff is 15th Century, Agincort to Orleans is the main focus.

For earlier, there are no plastics. I have heard that Gripping Beast *might* be releasing some basic sets to go with SAGA Age of Chivalry, but the source is not terribly reliable.


For metals: Claymore are the best and most expensive.

The Old Glory range (https://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/products.asp?cat=25mm+100+Year+War+-+The+Battles+of+Crecy+%26+Poitiers) is actually quite good and very good for building actual armies. Maybe not the best best range, but still solid figure. They have a section for the Crecy War and the Agincourt period. Easy to get in the US although they will be cast to order, in the UK go through Old Glory UK site (Andrew Copestake IIRC).

Foundry has a small range, old Perry sculpts: pretty decent, but expensive for such old figures.

Alternative Miniatures (https://www.alternativeminiatures.com/scottish-wars-hyw-wotr) is casting metals from the Medbury Range, early 14th Century labelled "Scottish Wars" (Second Anglo-Scottish period) but the basic troops will work for many early 14th Century troops in NW Europe.

Medbury Miniatures was the original 3D sculpts for the same, .stls of course.

Essex Miniatures has a 28mm range, not the cheapest but they do have some nice figure in equipment that you wont find elsewhere easily (unusual helments, etc.).

Black Tree Design has a HYW range, the Knights (mounted and foot) are very nice figure, the infantry OK but under-equipped often. But BTD is often unreliable so caveat emptor.

So if you're US, I would get some Old Glory HYW and see if you like them. They also do some neat packs no one else does (Welsh Spearmen, Flemish Militia with Goedenang, etc.).

>>92537444
Light mortars are fine you bitch

I saw them used to great effect in my last game. Lots of pins for a cheap unit that can reposition and fire

>>92570439
im this anon. thank u all for the great advice!

i think i want to get into napoleonics. i want to play 15mm i think, and general d'armee looks fun. what im confused about now is what miniatures to buy and more specifically how to know which color to paint pom poms etc for certain scenarios. i like austerlitz and the battle of the pyramids a lot, but where to even start with that if that makes any sense. i like the french, if that helps.

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>>92596328
Researching the battles is a big part of the fun of historicals. Start with the wiki; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Pyramids, and then go from there. Some books I'd recommend: The Napoleonic Source Book by Philip J. Haythornthwaite and The Campaigns of Napoleon by David G. Chandler.

>>92596414
i'm working through Chandler's book right now! it's dense but really trying to hang onto each word! it's wonderful.

>>92596328
You're on the right track, pick a battle or campaign you like and start researching. Uniforms changed a lot over the period of the wars, what's right for 1805 isn't for 1813, choose your minis accordingly.
Now, to start GdA, first decide on what a battalion was going to look like, for me it's 24 figures on six 20x30mm bases. Paint a battallion at a time and accept that it's a long-term goal getting a sizeable force on the table. More to say, but this is too long already.

>>92596328
There's a wealth of information here: http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com/

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>>92593853
Thank you.

>>92593853
that was quite the nice read, for some reason i seriously though it was one of those pre 2000 games. I have only 2 problems, lack of pact rules and another game were the Chieftan has the same or more armor than composite tanks.

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>>92586683
In addition to what others have said:
modern spearhead
Cold war commander