The flesh is weak edition>EC players get slapped and they probably enjoyed it:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/16/play-the-chosen-of-slaanesh-in-chaos-space-marines-armies-with-index-emperors-children/>Pre-Order your Orkz Codex and Custodes that got the nerfhammerhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/13/saturday-pre-order-adeptus-custodes-and-orks-flex-their-muscles/>Ork Rules for a Game Mode No One Actually Playshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/10/cry-waaagh-and-let-slip-the-orks-of-war-with-new-codex-crusade-rules/>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Torrent:Info hash: 7214f3185b4249d3C1889f696ee39218cf092375>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTL>Previous Thread:>>92568757>Thread Question:The flesh is weak, as you surely know, so why are you so attached to yours?
>TQI cant rape a skitari if I dont have my pp dummy!
>>92573818>TQWhat's the alternative?
>>92573818>The flesh is weak, as you surely know, so why are you so attached to yours?Pain is for thee, not for me.Do Deldar just collect skitarii for cheap lunches?
>>92573818>The flesh is weak, as you surely know, so why are you so attached to yours?"Ah you think metal is your ally? You merely adopted the metal. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the flesh until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but nuisance!"
The poll on the Custodes thing as of last I checked
>>92573890I didn't ask.
>The Imperium is developing all sorts of tech and even using Abominable Intelligence thanks to Cawl's efforts>The Tau meanwhile are hesitant to even equip their infantry with rail rifles have made no advances on the AI frontSo have the Imperium and Tau switched themes? Seems like the Tau are the gritty, jaded faction now, while the Imperium is the naive optimistic faction always developing new technology with reckless abandon.
Made to order 2nd edition Kommandos!
ec codex should introduce a named female character who is a slaanesh corrupted sister of battle who was remodeled by bile to have space marine stats. also giant bimbo titties and a horse penis.
>>92573895>t. someone assblasted over this
>>92573890>50 % of you are pol-tard incelsChecks out.
>>92573898>and even using Abominable Intelligence thanks to Cawl's effortsNo, it isn't though?Unless you mean the Cawl-Inferior machine, which is specifically a unique one off thing and secret Cawl keeps.Not even Guilliman knows of it.
>>92573914>which is specifically a unique one off thing and secret Cawl keeps.All it takes is one.
>>92573903I'm okay with 3d printed penis
In other news sad their are no rules for the Gorgon transport, was hoping to use one with the Krieg army I plan on printing.
>>92573890Link?
>>92573950>>92568937
Which will come first: the CSM release or the GSC+SoB previews?
TQI'm notIron within.Iron without.
Since kroot reproduce through literal backrubs, what are the differences between males and females? Has it been addressed in any official media?
>>92573901I would love to have some of those again.
>>92573903>remodeled by bileShouldn't take much Chaos mutations and bionics to qualify. Catachans (in some editions) got to be S4 purely by being stronk.
Is there a resource that lets you quickly search models by basesize?
>>92573957Thanks
>>92573976Female kroot have been mentioned, so they do have two sexes.
>>92573901>>92573980that picture is a really old photo of the Kommandos there and they've been photoshopped onto new bases (the shadow is pretty silly) the last time I went to Warhammer World and saw the Kommados they were looking pretty rough
Lets see some models, gents.What did you work on this weekend?
Are the custodes and orks 10th ed codexes avaible as pdf´s yet?Or am I confused on the release date?
>>92573914>a unique one off thingHe made a Guilliman Inferior as well. And frankly, there's not a chance in hell he had never once dabbled in this field at any point in his ten thousand years of fucking around with proscribed technology. Those weren't the products of a first attempt.
>>92574029they havent released yet. nobody has them to pdfify
>>92574017IMO they look great but they could maybe use a little dirtying up. I worked on a whole lot of nothing. I really should have been putting together my warbikers.
Do you think Cawl has made a Primarch yet? We know he has the master code to the geneseed to tamper with and he had 10000 years without supervision.
>>92574017I've separated my pile of ochre primed fire warriors into squads I'll paint one by one, this week hopefully.
>>92574017I betrayed the thread... I spent the entire weekend playing vidya and staring at my 2k to be army
>>92574047Then I got the release date wrpng, thank you
>>92574053I like clean orks better than I like my battle-damage/dirtying. It never turns out how i like it.
>>92574074I know that pain. My great paint scheme ideas never survive first contact with the miniature.
>>92574017Maybe just add a bit of bright metal scratching and dust?
>>92574057wouldnt he need BIG E'S massive throbbing skeleton cock to do that
>>92574081>>92574092yeah, I've tried multiple times to get some paint chipping/scratching right, but every time it either takes away from the bright paint itself or looks choppy/too thick, like you can tell that I just sponged on metallic paint over the blue.It's unfortunately a step that i've never gotten right, and I've given up on for the most part.
>>92573818>all skitarii paratroopers are lobotomized>somehow having less brain makes them more combat effectiveFleshfags BTFO
>>92573898Not to mention that you have secular figures like Guilliman in charge of the Imperium now while the Tau are rapidly becoming a theocracy under the Goddess T'au'va
>>92574057Thanks for reminding everyone how shit any lore involving Cawl is.
>>92574138>one (1) tau is keeping an open mind on the utility of the unborn entity >the tau are rapidly becoming a theocracy, guys!!1!!
>>92574013>>92573901>>92573980Id like to buy those but i am never giving GW money again.
>Friend plays fluffy SM lists with fluffy rules>meaning all of his armies are shit>I try to match by playing fun lists and units I like, issue is that units with fun rules tend to be good as well>So I win almost every gameCan someone give me a really bad but fun CSM list ideas? I don't like feeling like an asshole.
>>92574057closest thing he did was alpha primus, who's an insufferable mary sue that shouldn't be a thing primarchs require warp shenanigans beyond the grasp of cawl or anyone else at the moment really
>>92574170Think of how intensely religious a population has to be for only a few hundred worlds to already be summoning a warp god.
>>92574183Mabye you guys should try Crusade? Some wothless units can become quite potent with some traits. Also, If you make a mere mortals list, I bet he think it'll be fun to play against as his s4 bolters will make cultists and traitor Guardsmen into pulp
>>92574017I promised to hold off on posting my dudes, got complaints I post too much. I'll post when I got something new.
>>92574017Had a productive weekend. Got all this done.
Custards getting demolished lmao
>>92574183Ask to see his list and make a chaos mirror match using the closest chaos equivalent of each of his units.
>>92574233Looking good. You really managed to pull off the vidya aesthetics
>>92574017I just need to apply the transfers, do the battle damage, paint some details and he's done
what do you think of these ultra flamin hot takes on how a hypothetical reboot of the game could work?game systems:tlos goneall weapon ranges cut in halfremove random charge distancebring back move or shoot heavy weaponsbring back cover saves and difficult/impassible terrainarmor saves reduced across the boardpoint based morale system with forced retreatingincrease number of turns played but lower army sizesfaction abilities reworked into new stratagem systemnon-usr unit abilities removedfactions:marines are now entirely drop pod focused. everything bigger than a dread is squatted. tactical marines are pegged at 20 points and become the standard the rest of the game is balanced around.tyranids are now split between smaller melee bugs and giant artillery bugs. no more termagants.orks have aspekt boyz rearranged into more diverse units based on ork kulcha.tau lose all non-battlesuit units. infantry is limited entirely to allied races.
>>92574255Thanks. I need to get better at freehanding though.
>>92574208there are a few things at play here -the communal philosophy of the tau acts as a catalyst that makes shit more than the sum of its parts -the entity is still not actually born yet, just manifesting back in time from a potential future summoning -tau-controlled worlds are very close to one another both in terms of position in space and communication, most likely, on top of being highly populated to a relatively high standard-the veil of reality got a new asshole the length of the whole galaxy, warp stuff flows more easily and all races are awakening psychically at an alarming rate
>>92574017A Master Vox and a Medic for my beastmen command squad. I want to future proof stuff, so I'm keeping it within the Cadian Command Squad loadouts, that's why these Gors are a bit more sophisticated than one would have guessed
>>92574282>what do you think of these ultra flamin hot takes on how a hypothetical reboot of the game could work?how about we just play 2nd edition?
>>92574282>all weapon ranges cut in halfWhat shit tables are you playing on that weapon range matters?Vast majority of time theres enough terrain that 24 inches tends to max out in how far any firing angle you might get
i don't like how much power anons have over me. i went to a single model and tried battle damage again. not sure how i feel about the metallic stuff but the scratches look ok i guess.doesn't really show up on the model at table length. this might just be more for pictures.
>>92574322The one with a phone is hilarious
>>92574333the amount, type and layout of terrain of current boards make them look like shitbetter to reduce weapon ranges drastically and have less and better looking terrain, than to bend the knee to a L shape every 12" or else the game stops working
I think firstborn should be turned into the whores of the imperium
>>92574333the fact that the game is unplayable without los blockers everywhere is part of the problem
>>92574386Preach
>>92574017That blue is elite, anon. Always enjoy seeing some Orks.I’ve been very busy with work but I managed ti complete building my Krieg KT, the first squad of my new project. Going to build up some grenadiers next and paint both squads together.>>92574233Looking really cool.
>>92574366I imagine he's braying for artillery support or something
>>92574386This, very much this.
>>92574278looking great so far.
>>92574322>"Hello... Yes, this is goat."
>>92574386I wish people appreciated craters and trenches a bit more
>>92573876There isn't one. The crushing weight of entropy consumes all things, including entropy itself.
>>92574395>Looking really cool.Thanks. I used picrel as the loose inspiration for my paint scheme. Pretty much just the default Krieg scheme since I think that looks best for them.
>>92574431
>>92574282>tlos goneMight as well make the game hex based at that point.
>>92574017>What did you work on this weekend?Very smol Marines.
>>92574457The game existed for ages without TLOS.
>>92574282>tau lose all non-battlesuit units. infantry is limited entirely to allied races.incredibly based
>>92574466And it sucked.
>>92573526Getting a box of genestealers and a couple saboteurs wouldn't be a bad idea, I think.
How exactly does the game work without TLOS?
>>92574376No current boards look like shit because they are trying to let people have LOS on everything from their deployment zones.If they had more narrow streets and actual big ruins it would solve the same problem but then gunline fags would throw a fit.
Just woke up, what did they retcon the Emperor into?
>>92574586A little girl.They call her the Star Child now.
>>92574608You're in the 40k thread buddeh
>>92574586The Emperor turned himself into a pickle
>>92574440Definitely agree there. I’m sticking with the blue-grey coats too but I think I’m going to throw in some camo occasionally because it looks so good next to it.
>>92574642Grimdarkest shit I ever saw.
>>92574560cityfight can be cool, but every game being obligatorily a cityfight in order for the game to function is not good
Everyone complaining about range needs to understand that for smaller ranges to work and make sense, the games scale itself would need to change drastically. There's no sense in only being able to shoot as far as you can move.In epic scale, smaller ranges make sense. In this scale, it doesn't.This is not to say that the current situation is good, it's just that lowering range isn't a good fix.
If I equip my terminator captain with a lightning claw and thunder hammer, would I be making him overpowered?
>>92573903deal but she also has a knot
>>92574656Camo would be cool. I was thinking about it for the Grenadier squads I have planned, but I've tried painting camo before with abysmal results.
>>92574707We should move back to the short range/long range system
>>92574725How did that system work anon? I don't know much about older systems beyond 8th
>>92574707It's a wargame, not a rpg, the weapon's range is an abstraction of combat effectiveness not its actual bullet drop
>>92573818>TQ"With steel we are stronger, but without a soul we are nothing" - Kardan Stronos, Iron Father
>>92573818Aren't Skitarii commanded by a tech priest? Your 'skitarii gf' is probably being steered around by a creepy mechanicus girl.
>>92574734
>So called "mech" faction>Doesn't have a single mech bigger than a Scout Titan
>>92574734>>92574772Naturally, this won't exactly speed up the game
>>92574707It's either short ranges, shit looking boards, non-functional games, or the obligation to shoot the closest target
>>92574725Nah, it either doesn't affect shooting enough or it creates situations where you waste time to make an attack that deals little to no damage.Better skip that altogether.
>>92574233Nice work
>>92574360I think it looks quite good anon.
>>92574707The scale of 40k has been fucked since 5th and its only gotten worse over time.The amount of shit you can bring to a matched play game is absolutely absurd nowadays. If a horde army actually plays horde they run into the issue of not even having enough space to deploy everything as a formality not a rarity. its stupid as fuck
>>92574017
Poll update
>>92574846Fuck off back to Ieddit with your wankery.
>>92574722Yeah I’m definitely going all camo for my grenadiers too. I’ve only tried camo once before (picrel) and I’m pretty happy with it - even if It’s a little messy. I think camo can be more forgiving if you let it be.
If I were to go Farsight Enclaves then would the new Tau Combat Patrol be better than the old/current one? The old/current one has an Ethereal in it which is useless for enclaves.I already have the old Start Collecting if that matters and would of course buy Commander Farsight
>>92574852Bitch, I was on this site before this board was made
>>92574757But Black Dynamite, I am the Tech Priest mind controlling women in the community!
>>92574426I think a problem is that by RAW craters (and all the other terrain besides ruins) are basically useless, and trenches don't even have their own rules. It's probably pretty easy to come up with some interesting ones for them though.
>>92574846>66 say they hate it>68 say they're indifferent>6 approvehonestly I was expecting more to say they hated it. what's with the sudden apathy?
>>92574952>sudden apathyits almost like custodes are a shit faction that hardly anybody gives two shits about, and/or are glad to see their lore being fucked over due to again, being a shit faction.
>>92574924did they really turn an old mighty max playset into a 40k model?
>>92574952It's the classic "not my faction, not my problem" mindset. They won't accept that the slippery slope is very much real and that this will effect the whole setting.
What unit on the table top perfectly encapsulates this WEBM on how they are played?
>>92574952the usual suspects spam the poll
>>92574017The very rough beginnings of a Sentinel.
>>92574990do you even have a single model?
>>92573968GSC bros it's our time to rise!
>>92575020something something I'm certainly rising.
>>92574656I think BFV fucked up by adding women and Hero skins, but I really like their uniform options on the male skins. Hell, didn't they have a Dirlewanger mask for a limited time?
>>92575015Ye
Kroot are overpriced as hell, damn. I mean I don't give a fuck about tau but future new kits are going to be a pain to buy.
>>92575034>something something I'm certainly rising.based
Anyone magnetize the special weapons for grey knight terminators before that can tell me what size magnets they used? I've only got 1mm and 4mm magnets which seem to small and big respectively. I think a rectangular magnet could work for the weapons themselves since they all have a rectangular slot.
>Chaos gets a huge boost in power cause of the Great Rift>The Imperium gets a huge boost in power because of the Primarchs awakening and Cawl>All the xenos get fucked
>>92574895Looks better than my attempt. It was tank camo and just ended up looking real sloppy and didn't look at all how I wanted it to.>>92574811Thanks. I'm usually a slow painter. I'm surprised I got this much done.
>>92575045I'm only gonna play them at 1k for that reason, anything above that is just a meme on your wallet and on tabletop
I've checked out of the 40K side of the internet for the last several days. Has any e-celeb grifter started calling the Femstodes shitshow Warhammergate or Custodesgate yet?
>>92575058Xenos can't carry the story on their own, it's just the sad truth.
>>92574952No one really cares except a small handful of autistic dipshits who want to play the victim.
>>92574952Why are you taking a public poll that you can vote over and over on by refreshing as fact or indication of anything, especially in a thread where maybe like 5% of the people here actually play Warhammer or buy kits in a large enough amount for GW to care or notice.
>>92575077why are you looking to be outraged?
>>92574538you just look down at the table. here 2 3 4 and 5 would be in cover because they're touching the barrier but 1 and 6 would not. A would ignore that cover because he is past the imaginary line extending to the sides of the barrier while shooting from B C D and E would be subject to a cover save. for something non-directional like a crater or a forest you would get cover just from being in it.
>>92575077No because it's a non-issue that you just want to throw a tantrum about
>>92575058>npc factions get fuckedYes, and?
>>92575058>>All the xenos get fuckedthey might enjoy that
What is 40k cuisine like?
>>92575128Corpsy and starchy.Unless you eat the xenos.
>>92575128>Gue'vesaBread, water, and various proteins and vitamins to breed healthy soldiers. There's probably happy-pills in the food. >Everywhere elseCorpse starch lmao
>>92575128Like everything in the 40k galaxy, it depends entirely on where you are born.
>>92575128Grimdark and horrible. The main food source of the Imperium is corpse starch, made up of literal unprocessed corpses and the ground up flesh of farm raised juves. If you're chaos, it's infants (they even have farms where they rape women to harvest the infants out of). For CW Eldar, their food is tasteless as they can't experience any happiness or pleasure less they put their soul at risk for Slaanesh. Ditto for the Tau, where their food is healthy but tasteless (it's all the mindcontrol chems they put in it). DEldar survive almost purely off of pain and drugs, and Necrons don't need to eat. The only guys that eat well would be the orks as squiggs are supposed to be very tasty.
>>92575167>If you're chaos, it's infants (they even have farms where they rape women to harvest the infants out of).Chaos marines don't need to eat as they're sustained off of warp energy. They don't really need ammo either as their guns are all daemonic and can just respawn it. The lack of logistics, along with all the other boons, is one of the reasons why Chaos can beat the Imperium despite having absolutely moronic, barely sentient soldiers with no impulse control.
>"You bigots need to come to terms and accept female custodes!">people draw femstodes as attractive amazon women>"NOOO NOT LIKE THAT, THIS IS WHY WOMEN AREN'T INTO THE HOBBY"
>>92575128See pic related.
>>92575167>The main food source of the Imperium is corpse starchFucking lorelet. The main food source of the imperium is whatever the nearest agriworld produces - genemodded supergrains, processed algae, nutricious sludge grown by admech-sanctioned laity in skyscraper-sized vats, processed grox meat or whatever underhive pest you could find, kill and fry this week.Corpse starch is emergency food for when there is either nothing else to eat or you literally cannot afford anything else.
>>92574017working on some tanks
>>92575179>>92575197IF THOSE BABIES DIDN'T WANT TO BE EATEN, THEN THEY'D LEARN HOW TO DEFEND THEMSELVES.
>>92575205>The main food source of the imperium is whatever the nearest agriworld producesGiven the state of most agriworlds that's still pretty shit
>>92574896if you're playing montka detachment breachers in a devilfish can really put in work.you're always gonna want a commanderpathfinders are a great spotter unit. That said, if you wanna go battlesuit heavy with ret cadre then obviously the older cp is better.
>>92575130>>92575167>>92575152I don't know what GW authors are smoking cause corpse starch cannot be a staple food. It's non-viable for any human population to sustain itself by eating its own members unless there's some warp fuckery taking place. >inb4 abandon all logic because its 40k
>>92575237It's a parody setting
>>92575237>>inb4 abandon all logic because its 40kThat's true though. 40k is about generating a feel more than being coherent. At its best, its surrealist nightmare logic where things always get worse.
waaaghbros....not long now. what changes are you expecting in the codex that havent been leaked yet?
>>92575058Chaos and the imperium needed those power boost to even begin to think about matching the power of the Tau
>>92575276What does that make the orks?
Why do people brush off tau as weeb shittery when they are so obviously based on Indians?
>>92575287Libertarian.
>>92575288Let me guess, you saw the word Caste and extrapolated 99.9% of your understanding
>>92575287Orks are textbook anarchists
>>92575253>Entire ideology is based around the idea of service to the state>Every individual only has worth insofar as he is useful to the state either as an implement of war or a tool of production>No class warfare, all classes are united under the interests of the state>Constantly expanding and attempting to grow its influence and power>Greater Good is basically just "Everything within the state, Nothing outside the state, Nothing against the state"
>>92574238Painted my Phobos kill team as raptors. So fun loved the scheme.
>>92574952It's called resetting your ip and voting again + redditfags
You guys think we're gonna see the new EC models this year or will they hold off until next year? I still say we'll get the army box late this year and the Codex early next year
>>92575264Deff Dread buffs please
>>92575301Well there is that, but several suits are named after Hindu deity's and the race are pretty on the nose about looking like Rama. Also the kroot follow the cannibal sect of Hinduism, only thing they are missing are the street shitters and cow dung eaters.
>>92575288Hmmm, I dunno, what about, maybe, all the mecha battle suits they have?
>>92575287Depending on the clan it ranges from Anarcho-Primitivists to Plutocrats.
>>92575335>That tyranid in the back going ScreeeeAdorable.
>>92575343I guess the knights are Japanese now too.
>>92573818>TQI'd replace my eyes, spine and lungs in a heartbeat.
>>92575212Recasts or just primed grey? Looking good either way. What's your opinion on the new plastic vs the old FW upgrade if they're authentic?
>>92575354>No chain-katana or thunder-naginata third party bitsThey're slacking.
>>92575354In what way do imperial knights resemble mechas, aesthetically?
>>92575369Big robot. Bipedal.
>>92575244You really overestimate the average person's understanding of anything political>>92575288Their military equipment is stylized more after East Asia than Southern Asia
>>92575288is this your weird self-insert? why does any faction need to match your racial identityyou and "white scars are russian" can have a party together i guess
>>92575382By that definition even killa kans are mechas lmfao.I said aesthetically for a reason.
>>92575385Space Wolves are Vikings. I will die on this hill
>>92575391Except the Tau don't want to overthrow the current system, they want to implement the system across the whole galaxy.
>>92575339I'm betting on 11th Ed.
>>92575393that's ridiculous
>>92575388>By that definition even killa kans are mechas lmfao.By definition, they are. >>92575385I hate Indians, I loathe them even. Also, white scars are obviously based on vikings instead of Russians. How the fuck does someone equate wolves with Russians? I can understand bears to some extent but why the fuck wolves?
plauge marine with big ass stick grenade.post models
Female Custodes are the official sluts and bicycles for the whole Imperium of Man to use
>>92575431White scars are Mongolian with some Chinese influences. Maybe anon was trying to draw paralleles to the Mongolian invasion of Kievan Rus in the 13th century? But even then, the mongols just collected tribute and didn't impose their culture on the subjects, so Rus maintained its own distinct culture/language/aesthetics so that's a stretch.
>>92575457any decent porn yet?
>>92575460You're getting baited anon
>>92575431Wait im retarded, white scars are mongolian, got them confused with space wolves for a second.
>>92575448muh metal
>>92575476BLOODTHIRSTER WINGS!
>>92575408we know it's coming this edition, that's why they took them out of the CSM Codex. EC are guaranteed this edition
>>92575469There always has been.
>>92575486they could be a launch faction for 11th, like DG was for 8th. its unlikely that 11th will be a codex reset so the removal from the CSM codex would still track.
>>92575486They'll be released this edition, 1 month before 11th gets released.
>>92575486I still don't think it'll be within 2024>>92575481Yeah they're super heavy and inconvenient - but rule of cool. The magnets struggle. I take them off when I move him and then remagnet them. I used the Flyrant with the relic Heavy VC for most of 9th edition but for 10th I was using Swarmlord or the 4x Scythtalon Flyrant.
>>92575498Why would they bother taking them out of the Codex now if they aren't going to be out for over two years?WE got their Index 8 months before their Codex. I doon't expect the EC turnaround to be that much longer
>>92575498>Slaneesh launch>In Current Year
>>92575515Khorne for 40k and AOS is a safe play for "generic bad guys' in the setting. Same with Nurgle in the starter kit. Executives probably think Slaanesh is a niche sell. It worked well for Age of Sigmar, their Slaanesh release was fantastic.
>>92575510I still think launch box this November, Codex next January is the most likely timeline
>>92575523You both can go jerk eachother off and talk about Disco Elysium somewhere else.
>>92575448WIP kitbash for a Daemon Prince of Nurgle. really wanted to go for a real Baron Harkonnen vibe.
>>92575531you're probably accurate
>>92575515This pic is gayer than a black man getting fucked in the ass while hes oiled up.
>>92575519Hedonites are very popular and they got fantastic model support, I think the idea that GW execs are scared of Slaanesh is well and truly dead.If anything it seems like GW execs are scared of Tzeentch, Tzeentch doesn't get shit
>>92575556I love those power claws. I hope they show up in some form in the new kits
>>92575558yeah they did a good job on AoS and the warcry/small warbands that I don't think it was a doubt GW will do a great job on 40k Slaanesh/EC. I look forward to see what they do. >>92575543Thats a 60mm base? Are you doing the 'My DP has a jump pack' thing that everyone does?
>>9257558260mm yeah, he's a decent bit taller than the normal daemon prince model but rule of cool. figure if anything I'm modeling for disadvantage lmao.he just floats, it's warp magic I don't gotta explain shit.
>>92575602astartes and its sequences were an absolute disaster
>>92575335Orks can be Deff Wotch so this checks out.
Any sign of the full Custodes codex pdf yet? I want to see the full trainwreck for myself.
>>92575602Because the owner of the site can be legally liable and/or doesn't want to risk losing advertiser money.
Just ordered my Valerian and some conversion bits to repose him and fix that monkey head of his. The one and only custard I'll ever own.
>>92575624how was it a such a disaster beyond femstodes? id heard its awful but never beyond that
>>92575624Niggerman, the box isnt even out yet.
>>92575628>him
>>92575627What shithole has laws like that?
>>92575631it's got four detachments and one of them is for all-Sisters armies. They didn't even have a bike centric detachment!
>>92575647The current site owners bought the site off another group of people and it doesnt make profit. It's a few dudes running it that can't lose the last few advertisements it has
>>92575649They will never take my virginity!
>>92575631Out of 4 detachments:2 are unusable1 requires holding hands with SoSand 2nd usable one is a really shitty shieldhostAlmost all nerfs on the units and characters themselves. Nothing for acknowledging the forgeworld units.There was godly amount of bitching before the femstodes short story and tweets even came in.
>>92575687>>92575631I guess I'll just wait another edition to get into the golden boys
>>92575653That sucks. Where do sane people discuss WH these days?
>>92575693Their own private discord servers. Those are about the last places besides here where you can have candid discussions.
>>92575636The codex was on pre-order last weekend. I didn't realize it was one of those two week deals though.
>>92575687Honestly the only one I care about is the hand holding one but I read Watchers of the Throne a few years ago and that Talonpilled me.
>>92575693At their local gaming shop but that requires going outside and touching grass.
>>92575713>TalonpilledBased, the duo group is underrated and I hate these fake custode whores are gonna be the center of attention from here on.
>>92575721I have a dog, that's plenty grass for me.
>>92575721>requires going outside and touching grassAbsolutely out of the question. I refuse to leave the cave I've built for myself.
>>92575724I find them interesting but I don't wanna pay the price for 5 sisters.
>>92575724Yep, with femstodes now, SoS will be relegated to Legends when 11th is released and then will disappear by the time 12th rolls around.
>>92575724I think it's probably a bit weak due to it not working with the named Sister or the flamers but it still looks like fun.>>92575733Completely fair. Someone priced up the Sisters detachment and it was an unreasonable amount of money just to run all Sisters.
>>92575741>tfw with SoS get squatted because they are woman who dont speak
>>92575741Doubtful. Unless Custodes get some kind of psyker or anti-psyker of their own and don't need the girls in bronze armor anymore I don't see them going away.Honestly I'm hoping for a Sisters of Silence kill team but that's probably cope.
>>92575687Good. Custodes should have never been playable and I am glad that they aren't.
>>92575751Are there any psykers in KT?
>>92575758Grey Knights and Thousand Sons have KT.
>>92575757I don't mind Custodes being playable, but they should not have been an army. They should have been Imperial Agents that you could take one of in your army if you played any Imperium faction. Kinda like they do with assassins and inquisitors.
>>92575766barely
>>92575773The questions was if there were psykers in KT, not if the KT were good.
>>92574757Skitarii have autonomy. They're indoctrinated true believers with cybernetic enhancements, not servitors. It has been mentioned that tech priests DO have the ability to use their implants and noosphere connections to see through their eyes, and suppress emotions like fear, or even take direct control if necessary, but Skitarii are largely in control of themselves. Even tech priests recognize that individuals making decisions are more effective at adapting to a changing situation than one strategic mind in direct control. >>92574971That's the mechanicus symbol/crane off of a Sacristan Forgeshrine. Does resemble that though
>>92575767Artist?
>>92575359Bought the FW on ebay so probably a recast.Both are good, and i'd say it comes down to taste.I like the front plate on the FW russ with the canvas bolter more than the "bulge" on the SAX version.I also think the SAX version looks best mixed with 40k bits (which is why mine has the old heavy stubber and dozer blade on it, along with no trench rails).You get a lot of nice bits with the SAX model and a lot of weapon options, so thats nice.
>>92575808I love the old heavy stubber. Especially since because of how it looks, it is my own head canon that the Browning M2 is such an effective weapon that it is still being used in the 41st/42nd millennium.
How do shining spears work? Can someone explain it to me like I'm a retard? Because I am.
>>92575758clowns have one, there's one in inquisition, though he can't do anything to the sisters themselves, voidscarred have one, warcoven has lots, legionnary has one. Even without these, a combined arms team of five sisters and two custodes is pretty good.
>>92575758>>92575852+grey knights
>>92575831They zoom around and kill things. What do you need explained?
>>92573818I wanna add some vehicles to my chaos force but I dunno what to go for. Current force is about 1k points of chosen and cultists with 1 squad of possessed. I mainly want some ranged firepower.Predators have OK damage output but are pretty fragile. Destructor seems to be the best profile.Forgefiends cost more, do the same or less damage and only have a 5++ to make up for it.Hellbrutes look really stupid and mainly just seem good cause of their aura.
>>92575831>Woosh>Stab>Huzzah!
>>92575871So they zoom in shoot with their Lance and then charg with their Lance?
>>92575873Go for what looks best to you
>>92575687>1 requires holding hands with SoSIs that a bad thing? If you want a pure Custodes army then play the pure Custodes detachment.I'm not gonna make excuses for the Codex as a whole: it's fucking trash and there should have been Dread/Tank/Bike detachments but let's not act as if Sisters weren't (intended to be) a big part of the army. If you just play golden boys on foot, you're playing a hyperspecialized version of custodes, not the standard.
So they Primaris'd Marines with Primaristhen the Primaris'd Boyz with Beast Snaggaswho is the next to get Primaris'd?
>>92575905What's your point?
>>92575919Hopefully Aeldari. They need some attention
>>92575932The point is every fascist state can choose who does and doesn't get to be a part of the fascist state. The Tau commit genocide against Orks and Space Marines, because they consider them outside of the fascist state of the Tau Empire. A fascist state does not have to be all-encompassing, it just has to have the power to decide who gets to be a part of it and who doesn't.
>>92575873remember for some vehicles you can get the Horus Heresy models. Much newer molds that fit together much better. And if you're playing one of the Legions and want to be very extra, you can get the special doors for the Horus Heresy Rhinos
Female Custodes are shit because it's an excuse to never expand on SoS, and retards on Twitter and Reddit think it's a "pro women" move.
Female Space Marines when?
>>92575977>and the state was only there to serve the volk.And the 'volk' were whoever the state said they were.
Are there female kroot
>>92575412The Grimdark future is female
>>92575983never noticed the cow hooves on the tau, they really are Indian.
>>92575990Based move desu
>>92575558Tzeentch by virtue of being the "Everchanging" faction god means he gets the poorest representation modelwise. You cant depict change in a piece of plastic without making it an amorphous blob or a weird mishmash of bits and pieces. So, they focus on birds.
>>92575987How do kroot reproduce?
>>92573890>40% hate + 3% hate hate hate +3% hate but would fug = 46%So the majority of posters here either don't care or are all for it, and it's literally just a vocal minority sperging out.
>>92576017
>>92574017tiny amount of painting and this lazy """kitbash"""
>>92576021Birds are a good representation of change
>>92576030badly
>>92576017That quote does not refute my statement
>>92576047They can also move from place to place very easily
>>92575987the males are kroot warriors and the females are krootox
>>92575859grey knights are compendium and weren't lucky enough to be good on release so they are damned to be forever terrible.
>>92576047He uses crows, and honestly if we wanted to put a image on change something like the sea works better.
>>92574017repost of pm from a bit ago
>>92576031>Ignoring the hate how it was implemented votes
>>92576078Cros as a symbol of change is linked to them being a symbol of death. Death is an ultimate and inevitable change. It's also worth noting crows following armies for carrion, and armies are arbiters of change since war is just violence for the sake of enacting change
>>92575972That's what holds fascism back and brings about its self-destruction. Refusing exogamy is no better than incest.
I want Cabal.
>>92576083cute stinky boy
Which army got gutted the hardest in 10e in terms of fun?
>>92576173world eaters.
>>92576173Tau
>>92576153I am unsure if I should post Tomaru, the Rapeman, or any other exceptional hypersexual characters.
I just want to say I'm happy for the guy a few months ago that was lamenting how his green tide army was shit this edition and was considering dropping the game side of the hobby altogether because of its lack of support
>>92576181Your army still plays the same dipshit
>>92576173taubad moons
>>92576173death guardthey had their main gimmick deleted ,and they "fixed" it by just turning them into a horde army
>>92576083gross.
You know that daemonette and chaos warrior who fell in love back in fantasy and became a power couple? I want that in 40k, specifically a dreadknight war dog and it's pilot who become soulmates and passionate lovers after traveling the galaxy seeking glory. Who's the girl in the relationship I'll leave to your imagination
>>92573818>tqI LIVE, I DIE, I LIVE AGAIN
>>92576231>You know that daemonette and chaos warrior who fell in love back in fantasy and became a power couple?No I dont know, and I feel like this was fanfiction
>>92576206their main gimmick was just having more toughness which they still do though
>>92576187
>>92575287Social Darwinists
>>92576206Why wasn't this a codex cover holy shit
>>92576270GW is afraid of any sort of edge or flavor, so nu-DG have to be candy color cartoon characters. they even have paints for things like corrosion specifically for DG but they dont show them that way
>>92576270mort's still in the cumjar
How much does the average imperial citizen actually know about the Horus Heresy? The imperium doesn't give a shit about education as long as quotas are met and anyone who knows too much gets silenced
>>92576337"What does 'heresy' mean?"
>>92576337How much does the average brit know about proper eating.
>>92576337imperial normies know it as>the emperor united the earth and went to the stars to cleanse alien flith>and from the outer void of space came 8 great evils>and in response the emperor created 8 sons to defeat them
>>92576244Not so when weapons have increased in lethality relative to the “increase” in toughness. -1 Dmg from 9th and the FNP from 8th provided that extra chance to hang on and take those hits which is Death Guard’s schtick.
>>92576337the ecclesiarchy talks vaguely about it and some of the emperor's sons falling from his favora lot of people don't believe it's real and a lot of faithful refuse to even entertain it because it would suggest that the emperor's perfect angels aren't actually perfect if they can fall to chaos
How long until the Helbrute gets replaced with something bigger? I'm saying 12th Edition
>>92576366this is just marine babby crying. tau completely lost their signature ability in 8th edition and they're just supposed to get over it.
price check on a CIB 6th ed dark vengeance starter set. I want to move it to afford a 3d printer
>>92576434I paid $140 CAD for just the chaos half back in nov. so maybe that helps you price it a bit idk.
>>92576416well they had the dreadnought...
>>92576476they're just so tiny
is there a 40k character like sigvald in fantasy?
>>92576046Shitty paint job and replacing the helmet isn't a kitbash
>>92575096>>92575104Its not that it's just that you can't truly call it a consumer tantrum until you slap a -gate on it. I was curiosity if anyone came up with one or any dumb "motivational" slogans
>>92576542give him a break he's colorblind
>>92576539Fulgrim
>>92576539Fulgrim. Except he never loses
>>92576539probably A custodian
>>92576576lost to a tipped over dreadnought
>>92576576Goddamnit I just realized when Fulgrim comes back there's gonna be some big narrative event where Fulgrim aaaaalmooooost wins some massive victory but at the last minute is thwarted by Lemartes or some shit.Goddamnit that's gonna suck
>>92576608>comes backhe went anywhere, he just fucks around in the warp most of the time iirc in the later HH book, perty goes to tard wrangle him and hes become a big fat jabba the hutt creature lazing around getting high
>>92576263Isn't everyone but Tau and some Eldar social darwinists?
>>92576549>>92576576didn't fulgrim turn into some gay snake thing?
>>92576531Loyalty is it's own rewardAlso traitors working with corrupted HH gear + daemon engines vs loyalists that traded in their manlet gear for cawltech is good, it means we have less similarities between the factions than we used to
>>92576539Isn't there rumored to be a grey knight who turned traitor for slaanesh? I wanna say him
>>92576337>filed deletedIrish mods
Is this precursor to Battlefleet Gothica worth playing in Current Year?
>>92576542the """kitbash""" was replacing the right arm with a hacked up gravis eviscerator hand and random pistol arm
Anywhere I can get the Killteam upgrade sprues on their own? The Pathfinder one is great and would look good on Strike/Breacher teams too.
>>92576788best bet is probably on E-Bay, but its likely going to be so overpriced that you might as well get the box itself.
>>92574017I've started painting at the park on my lunch breaks
>>92576337They celebrate Sanguinala commentating his sacrifice
Chaos Knights.. my beloved...
>>92576608Yet to be seen how much they lean into the female custodes. We may have a new hero of the imperium being introduced
>>92576699afaik no GK has ever turned, it's like their thing
>>92576795That's what I was afraid of. Guess I could buy the box and sell the pathfinder sprue on ebay for $30-35 or whatever
>>92576652Only Orks and Chaos are social darwinists since an individual’s place in society is solely determined by one’s power and strength.
>>92576078There's also a large raven motif. The Ravenhost in Age of Reckoning is probably the coolest tzeentch warband portrayal GW's done and I wish they would just steal all those designs and reuse them for models instead of them languishing unused in a dead MMO
>>92576173Mechanicus, it's not even funny what they did to them despite having technically good units and a limited competitive presence anyone that collects and plays them feels miserableTyranids are paying for past edition sins, we aren't really playing Warhammer we are playing the VP minigameHonorary mention to psykers
>>92576841one GK has been corrupted, he fought his way through the palace of slaanesh to try and kill it , but was eventually corrupted standing before slaanesh herself for an extended period of time
>>92576898ripsounds like an interesting story, at least
>>92576898>standing before slaanesh herself
>>92576881admech was never a fun army. one of my first games in 8th edition was against some fag with a mars army and his "gameplay" was basically rolling a bunch of dice at the start of his turn and then reading off a laundry list of bullshit effects. if your idea of fun is playing a castle with op stats you're on the same level as custodes players.
>>92576841To be fair for this situation, this was the only time Cuck Workshop ever had a Grey Knight go face to face with a prime Chaos God who are on a whole different level compared to lesser or greater demons. I don't think Malcador ever intended for them to try and solo any of them.
Im going to rape all frogs ( the french)
>>92577007chud-kun.....
>>92577021not even the drago wanking had him go face to face with one of them, just destroy parts of their realm though if matt were to still write him im sure he would have resist them too
>>92574017Painted kill team stuff in oil, about 70% done.
>>92576898>Written by Phil Kelly>Four years agoProbably forgotten now, considering he was moved to Sigmar and no else seems to care about the 8th edition of the codex.
>>92576898>>92576903>>92576939The "silver knight" that fought through Slaanesh's realm and resisted all temptations until he stood before the Prince of Pleasure him/herself wasn't officially confirmed to be a GK from 40k.Also he has ultimately fallen to simphood when Slaanesh took the form of an innocent young man.
>>92576995Their army became a horde with a codex written with nothing but sheer spite towards the playersWhat they did to mechanicus is something I don't want to see happen to any other army, I don't even play them and I felt sad for them
I found the moment 40k died.
>>92577176Found the Delusional Brit, the game is dying because of the shit Brit management.
>>92577176just like everything if you fuckers actually read what 40k was like at the time that the tau came out you all would've hated it, since its completely anathema to what you picture Warhammer should be like
>>92577105These guys I finished off this morning, but here's a pic of them at 70%.
>>92577200But I was there. I had a motorola.
>>92577211So what did you think about the 2002 global campaign?
>>92577183This, hence why so many bong game developers are going up in smoke and a few who quit their dying studios go independent again and just start a new one.
>>92577219>22 years agoChrist take me back
>>92577219Was that medusa or why are you asking?
>>92576995>the only way to play AdMech in 8th was to castleYou played against a casual using a meme army. Though in general 8th edition Admech was pretty mediocre, then they buffed the shit out of them in 9th, then killed them in 10th
Anyway, my point is that from armageddon up through 4th edition at the bare minimum 40k was just an ongoing narrative with no signs of being stagnant. Within that timeframe, we would constantly see returns to armageddon to explore what its like AFTER the global campaign events. We would also be told about how people like creed, Ahriman, and Eldrad, all tie into eye of terror.if /40kg/ existed back then as it does now, you all would've hated it
>>92577271no that was way after, I bring it up because its fairly obscure and the only real way to know about it was to be around at the time or read the contemporary white dwarfs
>>92577286idk that sounds awesome to me
>>92577353to most rational people they'd enjoy it, to the most bitter of /nogames/ they'd call it capeshit, and say 40k is a setting not a story
>>92577373Take a look at AOS and see where turning a setting into a story gets ya.
>>92576243https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/shop/The-Vengeful-Allegiance-2019?queryID=260d1350b58be67a0e93dfcc8282f85a
>>92577382So are 3rd 4th and 5th editions all bad?
>>925773883rd 4th and 5th were not a story.
>>92577388If you have to ask
>>92577398yes they were, the releasing of 4th edition was a culmination of the story for eye of terror.
>>92577166the army never had an identity. it was just a bunch of ugly models with strong gunline stats.
>get my friend interested in playing 40K>he wants to play Eldar>offer to print his army and he gives me a very specific list>put it together and we finally play>realise he’s just autistically min-maxed his playing based on tourneyfag meta shit40K really has been vasectomied
Is it possible to play 1e Rogue Trader 40K as a kind of TRPG combat game? Make scenarios for artefact retrieval, defending a location for a set number of turns until reinforcements come along, narrative campaigns, etc, but mostly playing with small groups of units?
>>92577457Sad. Min-maxing has ruined people's brains. They can't have fun unless they optimize and play the most OP bullshit trash because winning is all that matters even against friends.
>>92577457Your friend plays card games, either online or physical ones, and brought that mindset over to 40k.
People naturally min max, the difference is now the meta is very accessible while back in the day if you asked the people at the shop for the meta they'd have no idea or threaten to table you
>>92577457Tenth just rewards min maxxing, there are almost no flavorful synergies that incentivize you to bring a bad datasheet.
Is Army Painter safe to use yet? The hobby stores here only sell it, citadel and a Vallejo air paints only for some reason.
>>92577496>almost no flavorful synergies that incentivize you to bring a bad datasheetThanks I couldn't quite put my finger on it
>>92577479Soulless faggot opinion.
>>92577457Your friend is a waacfag and you should kick him in the balls.
>>92577502>Vallejo air paintsUse these. Air paints just means the paint itself is thinner which means you yourself have to THIN YOUR PAINTS less.But Army painter is fine more or less. I'd still put it at the lower end of miniature paints but it is useable.
>>92577496My introduction to 40K back in 9th was one that steeped me into the competitive scene. So for a long time I thought 40K was only about competition. It was was difficult to undo that conditioning, but I just seek to play casually now w like-minded people. Still i find myself min-maxing when lost building. It’s hard to shake that habit .
>>92577533NTA but I have never been fond of the whole "taking turns throwing the game"
>>92577496it doesn't just reward you for minmaxing, it actively punishes you for not doing it. before even though the gorkanaut was "the melee one" and the morkanaut was "the shooty one" you could still bring a gorkanaut in a shooty army and roll a bunch of dice with its main gun. now because of the unit abilities you are basically forced to only use the mork one for shooting and the gork one for melee.
>>92577457As >>92577483 said the guy is probably a TCG player, seen it happen a lot with magic refugees that came into WarhammerThey eventually get their comeuppance when points change and they have nothing else to play with, some are to dense and get into the sell army buy army cycle to stay on top of the "meta" but the vast majority just chills after their first slap in the wristIronically most Yu-Gi-Oh players are the kind of retards that try hard as they might to make a pet unit work no matter what, they also hoard everything like a dragon because it's going to be good later, it's kinda soulful
>>92577550>Ironically most Yu-Gi-Oh playersin bith YGO and 40k from my experience the best games are when both players understand the game and their lists to the point that they can tailor the power level of them to fit each other.
>>92577483That's crazy. I Think of list building the same way as building a deck
>>92577548That and you're paying the same amount of points regardless of wargear so now you're punished for taking a slimmer loadout on infantry units over just blinging them the fuck out.
>>92577502i would avoid army painter standard line. their 2nd formula speedpaints are okay. their new wargames fanatic line is supposed to be fantastic and from every review i've seen its going to be one of the best standard paints on the market but i dont know if its actually hit shelves yet
>>92577496Fucking hell, I remember being a kid playing 3rd / 4th Ed and me & my friends would just play with what we could afford. Such a simpler time
Ork bros, what detachment are you planning on playing and what will your army consist of?Bully boyz here, will be playing with a fair few nobz, manz with warboss (deep strike), etc
>>92577550>>92577483Yeah I think he does play some kind of online TCG, maybe it’s Magic. He also plays a lot of League of Legends and Teamfight Tactics so he’s really just a minmax competifag. Hopefully he does mellow out but since I printed his models for him he might just lose interest and fuck off which would kinda suck.>>92577496This does seem to be the case, and I’ve been wanting to play an older edition just to force him out of the mindset.>>92577518Also true. I may just stop playing with him altogether.
>>9257766812 year olds still play 10e that way. Nothing’s changed.
>>92577668as a kid the internet was not everywhere, and what forums did exist were niche things. There was no grand collated dataset telling you what won and lost, there was no way to get hundreds or thousands of people to give input on what armies were truly trash or what was "not worth running". You learned stuff from friends, from redshirts, from experience, but there was no way to easily see "the meta" unless you were going to every big tournament, at which point you were not the average player. If there was "a meta" it was local to you.I hate to say it, I'm gonna out myself as a grumbling old-milennial, but shit was just better before EVERYONE was online. Bring back a barrier to entry, make getting online require worshipping at a beige-plastic idol on a plywood altar, kept in a different room to the TV.
>>92577560I have seen them play, it's the sweatiest game in existence, and yet somehow they are so chill trying to make their dreadnought, bikes or stalkers work bending all their army to secure a last hit with them, as I said it's kinda soulful
Havent played 40k in forever; can a 4x4 size mat be okay for a combat patrol game?
>>92577007Holly based. But you forgot to add:>>GW products>STILL not buying
>>92577007>painting your army in the colors of chronic loserslol?
>>92577693I'll try dred mob if you can stick a mek with flash gitz. if not I think I'm giving up on the game. both of my favorite factions got shit on and I don't really see another hard reset coming until 12th at the soonest, so that's basically 5+ years until the game even has a chance of being unfucked.
>>92577738yeah, combat patrol is 44x30
>>92577668Its a feelsbad moment when you buy overpriced plastic nowadays only to realize that its utter shite. People just buy what they think is good so they wont get those moments.
>>92574454Dale should be Tzeentch and Bill should be Nurgle
>>92577595> now you're punished for taking a slimmer loadout on infantry units over just blinging them the fuck out.this is a good thing
Got two full units of lychguard in the pipeline.One is going to be lead by the Stormlord, but what would be a good choice for the second unit?
>>92577936>what would be a good choice for the second unit?Hot gluing them
Thread is fairly dead
>>92578116Hopefully for good. GW has blood on their hands
>>92578116Most are probably sleeping, I should sleep too
>>92578116Want to talk about starting an Aeldari army with me and laugh at people that have Custodes armies?
>>92574971mighty max was based, i had the blast magus as a kid
>>92575048ew she needs to be bald
>>92577457I have a friend who said he would get anxious if he didn't minmax
>>92578116Nah it's slowing down after a full week of custodes whining making it 5x as fast
>>92578235About fucking time desu, can we go back to it being comfy?>>92578159I haven't played eldar since 3rd / 4th ed so I can't really help you there anon. I can't believe they still use the same fucking model for the falcon, I'm guessing the wave serpent is the same too?
>>92578235>>92578268It'll resume again in 4-5 hours
>>92578226Absolutely pathetic.
>>92577200.Here is a puncation mark; use it.
>>92578226I get that if you're playing some sort of team game that's pve but seeing every fucker play a similar, almost identical list is hideous, particularly when they are all sweaty as fuck. There's no need for it, just chill out for fuck sake
>>92576542>replacing a helmet isn't a kitbashIt isyou mix kits, you're kitbashing
>>92577783The fact that you can't even do that now (with both mek variants) is awful, I mean the meks make the fucking guns that the gitz are using, it makes sense for them to join those squads
>>92577176Everyone knows 40k started dying around the time the guard became "the astra militarum" and the eldars "the aeldari"Around the same time we got imperial knights, the da vinci mechanicus and soon after primaris2000s were great, very early 2010s were cool, then it started going downhill from there
>>92578311>Everyone knows 40k started dying>hobby is the biggest it has ever been>on the verge of another massive increase of popularity when the cavill show releases
>>9257832640k is dead, long live nu40k
>>92578326>on the verge of another massive increase of popularity when the cavill show releasesRather not, in all honesty.
>>92575058>Necrons keep reviving and fucking around with the pariah nexus, unstoppable>Nids envelop the galaxyNot all xenos are made equal.Knife ears and blueberries kneel, chaos and Imperium really need their power boost
>>92578326If the leak about the show is real and femtodes is there, it will be turbo shit and Cavill will bail from that clusterfuck
>>92578405>and Cavill will bail from that clusterfuckUnless he wrote an agreement not to.Wouldn't surprise me if GW and or Amazon went that far with him.
>>92578394Even outside of culture war shit, this.Nerdshit has got too fucking mainstream, I want it to stop.
Question anons, can CSM havocs use a rhino?
>>92578434I want my anime, Vidya and Warhammer to outright become less popular again.Even if output slows, but at least quality might rise again. At the very least they would have to appeal to the real fans and consumers instead of being able to pump slop and get billions out of normalfags and investors
>>92578434You are always allowed to want something, doesn't mean you will get what you wish for.
>>92575058>Xenos are so powerful chaos and Imperium need constant plot armor and powerups just to keep up with themFeels good
>>92578434eh, i disagree. its nice to not be outright ridiculed for my hobby choices anymore
>>92578405He's producing it. The clusterfuck would be his own doing.
>>92578432Imagine you're CavillYou worked on the Witcher who you like a lot, and you left when you realized they didn't care about the source material like you doNow you want to work on another franchise you adore, 40k, and the contract says you can't bail.Why. In the fuck. Would you sign it?If he signed, that means there is no such thing in the contract, or that he is a massive idiot, which I doubt.
>>92578405>IfBig if tru
>>92578469I'd rather take going back to the times when I was a child and was called a nerd than my hobbies become shit.
>>92578480>Cavil puts in his contract that Amazon has to RESPEKT DA LORR or else he walks>Amazon just asks GW to change the lore
>>92578496how is it shit? i've been playing warhammer a long time, its pretty similar now to how it was back in 2003 except i dont have that pool table i used to play on with my friends anymore. a couple of minor differences in the rules like templates and strategems but otherwise im still putting down roughly the same size army of the same size (but better sculpted now) marines against the same eldar and tyranids i was 20 years ago
>>92578469I'm still an awkward nerd, only now the spaces I used to enjoy are now being filled in by the same people who used to treat me like shit, while they claim that "oh this is cool now"
>>92578524Not to mention it's still uncool to like these things TOO much.
>>92578441>Even if output slows, but at least quality might rise again.It wont, nowadays once something stops being popular the entire market for it more or less crashes/becomes way less economically viable.Things like video games, anime and warhammer going underground, would just mean less of that stuff, but also would mean any you get would be of much lower quality. Because there'd be no quality control (not like GW has any nowadays, but hey, who's counting?)Sad fact is, most indie games are trash.The only ones that breakout of the "indie" so to speak, only break out because they are exceptionally good or somehow they just hit that bullseye perfectly and somehow are the lightning in the bottle.Most indie anime isn't that great either, and ones that are take like years to finish, which bad over all because if you take too long your fanbase has moved onAnd with warhammer indie shit would just mean bad quality miniatures, like very bad quality, you should never forget that Mr. Chang and Ivans of the world aren't the average. 3D printing is becoming a thing but lot of people just despise resin miniatures on principle so you won't even convince them either.And then there'd be the rules, rules that'd be fanmade and last time 40k fanbase made a proper ruleset for themselves by themselves, was during 3rd edition when people who hated 3rd went back to 2nd and made their own one with blackjack and hookers. And admittely it still gets played today, supposedly, I've only heard people say that it is being played.but people forget that this happened 26 years ago, that is practically 1 human generation ago. And nevermind the mentality behind wargames and settings back then was very different than what it is now.Only reason why many series and franchises got to the point where they are was because they became big companies and there was a big business incentive behind it.Only problem nowadays with big companies they just chase the money and only money pretty much.
>>92578505Would Cavill call it Fluff or Lore?
>>92578529>it's still uncool to like these things TOO much.It's uncool if you're a sperg about it.Like being "that guy" in an LGS, or being that "that guy" who goes into scifi settings or forums and tries to insert 40k into everything while endlessly fellating it.
>>92578550Just having passion about anything is "spergy" these days, anon.
>>92578543>HHfagHe'd call it lore, no doubt.
>>92578326>>hobby is the biggest it has ever beenBased on fucking what?
My predictions for CSM detachments in the next codex: Spear tip/Votlw generic one -Basically the VOTLW set focus on marines/chosen/termie/possessed infantry based detachment Raptor cult - raptors and warp talons with a raptor lord Cultist spam - cultists, dark commune, accursed, spawn and dark apostle Armoured - vehicles, daemon engines and warpsmiths I don’t think GW will even bother trying to get up to 6 detachments
>>92578543thats a small ass picture
When are they gonna start revealing CSM stuff? I want to know if I want that battleforce or not.
>>92578576Around 19th may at the next big tournament
>>92578584Lurk moar
>>92578584Yes. The discussion has concluded.
>>92578570Based on GW's growth as a company? Are you fucking retarded
>>92578584Nice try faggot
>>92578576There's an even in about four weeks. They'll probably do some rules previews before then since I'm sure that event will mostly be for revealing the new AoS box and maybe the Sister/GSC pity characters. But they might just suddenly reveal them on WarCom like they did for Orks/Custodes so who knows.
>>92578591Glad to hear the matter is resolved. no need to bring it up again I guess :)
>>92578592They raised prices by an extra half over the past year or two, and keep shrinking points so current players have to buy more and more units to keep their armies at the table. More profit does not necessarily mean more players.
>>92578584I dunno, ask /hhg/
Did anyone here get the new orks battleforce?
>>92578602Do you unironically think the playerbase hasnt grown and that the same playerbase is spending the equivalent of an additional 60 million?
>>92578616yea but how long do you think GW is going to retain that playerbase? The entire point between 9th and 10th was to lure people into the hobby while being fucking expensive. Which they have done a good job at.
>>92578592I don't see the correlation you can make your company as big as you want doesn't mean you have a bigger customer base
>>92578604>he fell for the stompa will be good bait
>>92578635>how long do you think GW is going to retain that playerbase?As long as GW doesnt leave the game in an unbelievably broken state the playerbase will continue to grow.Consumers have shown they are willing to put up with anything else.
>>92578543probably both interchangeably
Has the ork codex been uploaded yet?
>>92578635If a company as famously greedy as GW does this is because in reality this has no impact and most people do not give a fuck.
>>92578635the biggest thing scaring consumers is the three year cycle for books, beyond that warhammers fine as it is despite what nogames will tell you.
>>92578644Was just asking a question anon, I didn't get it and don't think I will
>>92578635It's a similar situation to warthunder Gajin is a greedy company but players have no better alternative so they put up with immense shit. So unless there comes another IP from another company GW will be fine
>>92578644Will GW ever stop holding the stompa being absolute dogshit over ork players heads?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l25j13U4wnw&list=LL&index=347&ab_channel=DosGaming
>>92578665Yeah its fine as long as you are 3d printing.
>>92578665Prices for kits are a bit too high. You gotta at least concede to that.I think it's fine that kits are expensive, they are normally very good quality and for the money you spend you can take hours and hours of hobby time without even taking games into account, it's a good ratio. But nevertheless the price hikes and point slashing is a bit too painful for the wallets of non whales
>>92578665Them not dumping all the books at once is pretty fucking dumb too. I know the idea is to bully people into buying multiple armies, but in practice it just keeps people out of your game for upwards of 3 years
>>92578693The problem is that most business these days are held up almost entirely by whales so non-whales kind of get fucked.
>>92578571Are you baiting with this shitpost?
>>92578516Nta but "it's not shit because I trivialize things" is one hell of a great argument you have there.
>>92578694Didn't the last edition's final army book release just a few months before they announced the next edition?
>>92578699Poor guard.
>>92578699Guard yeah. And it was a pretty good book with a ton of customization too (like most 9e books to be fair).
>>92578635I volunteer for a youth's association that has a wargames group and I teach people how to play W40K every couple weeks. You'd be surprised how many new people there are every time, and how many become regulars. Got my ass kicked through the window yesterday by a guy who I taught like 7 months ago that now has around 2000 points of black templars, provided someone can lend him a Land Raider.
>>92575558i want a daemon prince with shitting dick nipples
>>92578717And then we all clapped
I think one of the biggest issues is that GW desperately wants people to look at combat patrols as this reconstructed format. But everyone sees them as 1/4th of a 2k list and values them as such
>>92578731They arent even 1/5 of that most of the time anon.
>>92578697they are trivial things
>>92578693>Prices for kits are a bit too high. You gotta at least concede to that.The prices for kits have ALWAYS been too high for what they are. Even back when I was a retarded kid buying "3 space marines for £4.50" option from the small games shop every week.Warhammer is priced like an actual hobby and not like toys.The price has literally never stopped the hobby growing ever.
>>92578736They aren't supposed to be either, they are to play a game that's roughly 500 points, not as this stackable box
>>92578665My killteam friends and I have been looking at big boy 40k since last summer, and that honestly hasn't occurred to any of us. The big cost is the army, so having to buy a new rulebook in a year's time doesn't seem like a big deal. You'd think it's the price that would scare us away, but instead, I'm finding the ever-increasing price tags make me feel like I should buy now rather than later. Instead what's scaring us away is the idea that we COULD buy now, get our armies up and running, only to have to shell out more money every balance slate because of points nerfs.
>>92576542mixing kits is exactly what a "kitbash" is, its just doesnt count as a "conversion".
>no dataslate>still in the codex
>>92578748I think points being a balance point is a huge thing not many people talk about. Admech I think has a terrible point per dollar ratio average for all of their units.
>>92578571James already confirmed that CSM are getting 8 detachements doofus
>>92578211fuckkk i had that one too
>>92578752Yarrick 2
>>92578744Yes but we had start collecting boxes which were infinitely better, I would argue even had better models than whatever the fuck Combat patrols are supposed to be, all while being alot more affordable. Even ignoring the shrinkflation, the constant fluctuation of points makes it even more expensive, Sisters was already an expensive army but now its roughly up there with Admech in costs. Hell Space Marines are expensive as fuck to collect and its the poster boys, even when you consider third party sites like ebay. But sure, lets stick to the topic of it "being always expensive". Its not the fact that its pricey, its the fact thats its become much more pricey than it should be, there are too many factors for someone to consider when they want to make a 2000 point list, and how the combat patrols are just shrunk down start collecting boxes. >>92578747And again, they aren't even 500 points most of the time. Hell most of them dont even have the right to be called a discount with the fucking upgrade sprues hogging up the saving values.
>>92578753>not many people talk aboutWe wouldn't have realized it if the group taufag hadn't complained about riptides going from $115 for 250 points to 165 points
>>92578752Anrakyr, Obyron and Zahndrekh don't have rules this edition but they're still profiled in the codex and have their models left in the webstore. I don't know the reason for this incongruity, but is it really that big of a deal?
>>92578752In 11th there will be a badmoonz/freebootaz focus and snaggas can finally be forgotten.
Should I buy 2 more boxes of grey knight combat patrol before they release a shitty replacement for it when the codex drops?
>>92578752Maybe they are releasing a new model and he will get a dataslate thent.copium
>>92578814Do you have any use for them?
>>92578814>2You should buy 10 just to be sure
>>92578783>its the fact thats its become much more pricey than it should beThere is no "should be", thats ultimately the point. GW has a near consumer monopoly for tabletop miniatures. They will charge whatever they can get away with and will continue to do so.Even with that being the case, unless you are absolutely deadset on having a meta horde army, it is expensive, but not so expensive that you couldnt buy multiple 2k armies a year and not care even if you have a mediocre job.
>>92578814when they get a replacement they will come with new models, but I guess sure.
are you a kuhtahn chud or seatan enjoyer?
>>92578814snag up all the baby papoose dreadnoughts before they're gone
i wish they would make tyranid warriors a bit tougher. they die to a stiff breeze, in a lot of ways they feel even squishier than gaunts.
>>92578833Are you saying this isn't what you want?
>>92578825>but not so expensive that you couldnt buy multiple 2k armies a year and not care even if you have a mediocre job.That is true. But still, GW is chasing the "line go up" meme, and at some point they will start getting diminishing returns and alienate anyone that's not a metafag whale.At the very least they should stop being retarded with their rule books. Rules should be free, even the codexes. The physical release should be a collector item for the lore and pretty pictures
Have we got an orks codex leak yet?
Black Legion (slaves of darkness)Iron Warriors: Vehicle focusWord Bearers: Daemon/possessed focusAlpha Legion: Sneaky focus Night Lords: Battleshocks hijinks and jetpacks focusThat's 5. What will the other 3 detachments be?
>>92578814What replacement are we talking about exactly?
>>92578211>blast magusShiiiiiit I had this fucker. I didn't remember it, at all, but it came back to me. That claw/mace thing fired out if you so much as jogged the toy slightly, didn't it?
>>92578859cultist centric
>>92578861Most factions are getting a new combat patrol around the time their codex releases.
>>92578848trazyn and zahndrekh singlehandedly ruined necrons more than any other part of the 5th ed retcon itself
>>92578859Cultist spamSome shitty character focus oneDetachment around a single unit
>>92578859Vashtor theme, sorcery theme and >>92578871
>>92578881Trazyn is the only good necron character along side Szeras.
>>92578895it's hard to differentiate vashtorr from iron warriors i think
>>92578842I think everyone agrees there. The custodes dex being clearly written at the end of 9th and being released in this state now should be the biggest sign to GW of how stupid of a system it is.Even then I get the feeling retards are going to buy the dex anyway
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>>92578825>unless you are absolutely deadset on having a meta horde armyIts not even meta lists they are striving for, its something that you would find as coherent without memeing into an all XXX list. Also anon, EVERYTHING has became a horde army now. There are maybe few exceptions where this is not the case but compare a list from 9th to tenth and you tell me there isn't a disparity between the two.>but not so expensive that you couldnt buy multiple 2k armies a year and not care even if you have a mediocre job.I hope your memeing here, maybe if you lived where GW stuff is native it isnt so bad ( I have no context onto the brit bong economy) but its shite everywhere else, some less than others. >There is no "should be", thats ultimately the point. GW has a near consumer monopoly for tabletop miniatures. They will charge whatever they can get away with and will continue to do so.And there is the paypig mentality, ever much a defeatist. sneeded and feeded beyond repair. Well fine, I guess GW will just have to implode before 3d printing is the way to play this mediocre game.
>>92578897he's a fucking joke it's like if the angry marines were canon, the novelty ends quickly and only obnoxiousness remains
>>92578917Amusingly since people are talking about them Grey Knights are one of the few that havent because dreadknight spam.Also Demons.But yes its absurd how large 2k point games are.
>>92578592anon>>92578643thisalso, stock price does not correlate to company growth, in fact, now days, it barely correlates to anything, Most stock trading in current year is automated and is controlled by price action both on and off ticker news.
>>92578930good way of putting it
>>92578905>VashtorrForge fiends, obliterators anything fleshmetal>Iron Warriors Classic vehicles, siege and artillery
>>92578752He's chilling with Vect now
>>92575987Yes, there's been no indication they have any kind of sexual dimorphism and are presumably indistinguishable from males to non-kroot.
>>92575987my personal headcanon is that the krootox are female kroot
>>92574360alot of people do their chipping with dark brown like Rhinox hide. Then they do the metallic chipping over it, making sure some rhinox shows underneath.however it looks best on pale models like yellow, orange, white, grey etc.
>>92573898>several etherals have died for centuries>but Aun'va's death would mean chaos, we better make a vocaloid pope.
