Sisters of Battle edition>Tau Empire Preorders (Buy Kroot):https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/21/sunday-preview-the-tau-empire-needs-you/>Emperor's Children Index is coming:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/16/play-the-chosen-of-slaanesh-in-chaos-space-marines-armies-with-index-emperors-children/>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Torrent:Info hash: 7214f3185b4249d3C1889f696ee39218cf092375>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTL>Previous Thread:>>92610604>TQWhat is your favorite painting channel on YouTube?
If I equipped two of my nobz with the killsaw and the powerspike and the other 3 with klaws, that'd read well enough as a squad full of power klaws, right? Not like the former two weapons have rules anymore at any rate
>>92612001>TQEric's Hobby Workshop, noe.hammer, and Billion Dollar Clown Farm
>>92612001Auspex Tactics
>>92612001Anon is not a clever grot.
>>92612023Yeah, that's pretty much what everyone is doing. Also as long as you aren't mixing load outs, no one gives a fuck about WYSIWYG for orks, even at tournaments.
>>92612001All painting channels are hacks, step one is always 'So I took out my airbrush' all the fucking time.
>>92612369Stop being a poorfag
>>92612369Sorastro has pretty solid tutorials but he doesnt paint a lot of 40k or GW stuff. For Legion and Marvel Crisis his tutorials are gold.
>>92612001Have the Sisters of Battle ever won a major battle or contributed in some meaningful way? My memory of them is fuzzy but I have it in my head they've always been the punching bag of the Imperial faction.
>>92612439This
>>92612439Okay but raped by who?
>>92612369A workhorse airbrush plus full setup costs less than a knight
>>92612477Anyone and everyone.
>>92612477Everybody, including other SoB
>>92612485Including other Sisters of Battle?
im starting to get a feeling like spending $700+ for an army is not a good idea if the hope is to enjoy the actual game.
>>92612536You might have to elaborate on that feeling
>>92612482What would you need for one?
Any of these worth picking up?
>>92612485I'm pretty sure Craftworld Eldar are incapable of rape, anon.
>>92612536Then dont, dont give GW more money for a shitty game system.
>>92612134Cool, cool. It was either that or scrounging/kitbashing together more klaws, and honestly I really like the killsaw and spike so I'd prefer to do this for both visual variety and personal preference. Personally I wanted to use em before the change anyways but they seemed kinda weak compared to the alternatives.
>>92612536Just buy the toys you like, play with friends or join a club. Warhammer rulesets almost always had been dogshit.
110 point venomcrawlers.Yea Im thinking its time
>>92612536Start with a 1k point army you retard. Please for the love of God do not listen to fucking no game secondary morons here who have never stepped foot in their LGS ever that 1k games aren't real, unless you are one of those people who literally cannot live unless he is bringing a bane blade or primarch every match.Better yet start with a combat patrol, although finding players for that will depend on your local scene.
>>92612536If you just wanna play the game use tabletop simulator. Actual 40k has been declining in quality since forever now, GW is now using the rules to force people to buy more, and the lore has just entered its death spiral too with the introduction of femstodes More telling actually was GW gaslighting fans asking about it with the statement "There have always been femstodes"
>>92612369If you paint a lot you will need an airbrush to save your sanity.
>>92612556well one they just released today so nobody here's going to have experience with those colors specificallyand two, in general pro acryl's excellent even if they need more reds and oranges, so if you see a color there that looks like something you want it's worth grabbing to try out
>>92612556I’ve used that brand for my battletech stuff. they’re pretty good.
Do Custards have "chapters" with varying looks or are they all just gold with red tassels and robes?
>>92612593Five seconds on google would tell you.
>>92612369Because you gotta consooom to be the best consooomer of all. "Hobby" mark-ups are hilarious. Almost as funny as the paypig noobs coming in with 2k that they later realize they are terrified of painting.
>>92612593never skip leg day
>points buff for shining spearsI miss you Drastanta, come back home soon
>>92612610>Implying it's merely limited to rapeThere's lots of other nasty frightful fates for Sisters, anon.
>>92612609I have ~70 infantry, a monster and two tanks to paint for my GSC. I wish I was dead now, but I may just spring for an airbrush.
>>92612554painting vehicles with an airbrush becomes easy and fun instead of miserable and taking forever with brushes
>>92612635I was more asking about the setup, I know that they're pretty convenient tools.
>>92612610Fuck off.
>>92612574Love these little guys. I'm able to squeeze two of them into a 1000 point list now. Lethal hits on 5+ rocks with them.
>>92612554Brush, hose, compressor and a cleaning kit. Iwata has a brush/compressor combo for $300, which is what I bought.
>>92612439Cringe anon. Nuns with plate armour and guns are a time-honoured theme.
>>92612593Custodes have Shield Hosts which have different armor colorations. They were present in the 8/9th codexes, but 10th removed that in favor of the detachments system.
>>92612412They have a limited presence in the Chalnath theater, but they're doing okay over there. In Charadon the SoB under Abbess Vahl were at the head of the Imperial counter-offensive and were largely successful at restoring the sector to Imperial control. And in the Nephilim sector they were one of the most critical elements of the Imperium's initial response to the establishment of the Pariah Nexus.
>>92612627>>92612629>>92612651>>92612653the coomer recoils and lashes out as you expose their sordid ways.
>>92612593Every army has alt colors anon but yes, the cuckstards are the least interesting or sensical or focused on of literally any faction.
>>92612574Oh yes, it’s time. >>92612579Combat patrol seems to be very popular these days. I remember in 5th edition having a hard time finding anyone who wanted to play a sub-1000 game, but now it seems popular getting back in.
>>92612632Hoisted by your own petard. My condolences.
>>92612554Compressor, an airbrush, and cleaning materials. Of all these, the compressor is the item to actually put in the dough for. Don’t skimp out on it, as it’ll impact the pressure and flow of whatever airbrush you use. Best to get one with an airtank attached to help regulate the pressure.
>>92612688That's a nice Sister. Have you considered the concept of her being swallowed by a Mawloc?
>>92612684I was wondering what the Daemonfeauge was doing there. Isn't she a person doing shit on her own cause she's basically an unsanctioned Psyker?
>>92612001TQ>there are a few I like if I need a quick reference, like infernal brush’s vids. I avoid HRminiatures like the plague, that guy is awful and his brush licking is painfully cringe.
When is CSM codex coming out?recently got my new land raider, it's glorious. using the 30k model
>>92612688When did being against fantasizing about rape become a coomer trait?
>>92612640oh I misreadyou just need an airbrush and compressor and a hose to connect themin my experience a better compressor can carry even cheapo airbrushes a long ways, I have a 25 dollar brush but a 150 dollar tank compressor and it works like a dream
>>926127043rd quarter 2025don't ask me how I know
>>92612704Land raiders are gonna be squatted soon.
>>92612672>>92612693>>92612709Thank you anons for the advice I appreciate it.
>>92612688>>92612706Oh wait, I misread the post I replied to and thought the guy was talking about some gooner shit.
>30ppm Manzlollmao
>>92612691Absolutely. Oh well, just have to get to it, I suppose. I also have a bunch of unbuilt firstborn marines I plan on doing as Fire Hawks down the line, but at this rate I’ll have them done in roughly 45 years.
>>92612536Start with 3d printing the minis. Then never buy GW
>>92612718How dare you speak such evil!?
>>92612702I'm dead after work and noticed a quality drop in painting if I'm fatigued, so I only paint on weekends at this point.
One small nitpick I have with Orks is that I feel their vehicles should never have rust, or if they do it should be whole pieces rather than the usual "rust where water collects". Their shit is made of scrap metal in a mostly ad-hoc manner and rarely lasts more than one engagement, a Trukk does not get to sit rusting in the rain because it's probably gonna explode or be rammed into something the first time it sees action.
>>92612677I like her hat.
Everyone and anyone who is who is now going to warmachine hordes. My friends say it's excellent. The reviews are all saying excellent and I am going to plan on buying a model.
>>92612785Tourneyfag game with an even more horrible company behind it than GW, hard pass
>>92612785>Everyone and anyone who is who is now going to warmachine hordes.You having a stroke there little buddy?
>>92612755Cardstock terrain? Something within me recoils at the thought of it.
>>92612690>Combat patrol seems to be very popular these daysReally?Ive heard nothing about bad things about the format because GW doesnt touch it.Like Eldar are still at 12 fate dice for example
>>92612785holy shit a time traveler from 2012
>>92612785>anyone who is whoUh, I believe the phrase for which you're looking is "anyone who's anyone".
>>92612755>Soulless terrain ruined
>>92612789You obvious haven't read any news lately have you. This game is in high demand since the badness occurred in GW's hometown .
>>92612690Man, if only they kept boarding action in 10th. I actually enjoyed playing it, my lgs had four tables with full terrain for it.
It is 9th edition. Chaos Knights have only one playable list, max Dogs (sometimes it includes Abaddon).It is 9th edition after a year of balance changes. Chaos Knights have only one playable list, max Dogs (now with no Abaddon).It is the end of 9th edition. At this refined point in time, Chaos Knights have only one playable list, max Dogs.It is 10th edition. At the moment of all indices releasing, Chaos Knights have only one playable list, max Dogs.It is 10th edition after 4 balance passes...
>>92612755Why have you scribbled out the standing circles?
>>92612785>Everyone and anyone who is who is now going to warmachine hordessaid no one other than you. Warmahordes is a terrible system of games with a company that makes GW look awesome.
>>92612785Worse game with a worse company behind it. I’d rather just deal with the troons playing battletech.
>>92612791I’m not a fan either but it’s almost impossible to get people to play at the store with actual fun terrain a lot of the time. I still get the odd one though.
>>92612822Probably has identifiable information like a store name or location
>>92612820cope
>>92612816It’s still workable with a bit of houseruling.
>>92612826https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjH5Ae8pn_Q i have been enjoy tactics for over 6 yeats now. GW will die on impact
>>92612792I believe it’s more that you can just spend $160, assemble and paint, print the PDFs and play as is. Personally I’m not fond of the structure of them, especially as a fan of sisters seeing you’re locked into options. >>92612815anyone dropping 40K for warmahordes is retarded.
Weird question: Can the Brokhyr Thunderkyn exo-suit frames be feasibly built without the dwarf and his armour inside? Like if I wanted to build an empty one as if it were on display.
>>92612815>SELLING FASTThe % of people actually leaving for Warmahordes will be minuscule, I'd estimate not more than 2%~ or so of the whole 40k community, probably lessAnd Privateer Press is still selling pretty horrible quality 3D prints for quite a pretty penny
>>92612820CK are an npc army only meant to enrich narrative campaigns
>>92612820Playable, or optimal?
Man necron nerfs were honestly fairly minor.Shocked Doomstalkers dodged hits
>>92612606Not a whole lot came up for the reason that >>92612678 explained.>>92612678>>92612689Thanks.
>>92612001lmfao guard at 46% win rate get huge nerfs, thats hilarious
>>92612877he's a knightfag, obviously he means optimal. real people only own knights to put into other armies.
>>92612905its targeted nerfs to one specific list that won a super major. guard is still fine.
>>92612914Cool, can you find lists that did well that weren't hit?
>>92612905Guard have a fuck ton of tournament wins.The issue is shitters running guard and dragging them down
>>92612905Porn addiction. >>926128742% is generous, especially since the game has been shit for over a decade.
>>92612880Doomstalkers are fine even in canoptek, they fold easily at T8 if you just fucking shoot at them and fold to melee. Their attack value is also pretty random when it wants to be. Even setting aside they'll only ever see play in Canoptek.Cryptek character nerfs across the board were very fair. Immortal nerf is fair enough. Ctan nerfs are jokes honestly. The key one being atleast the best Ctan isnt the cheapest by far now.My current list frustratingly is now going to be 5 points over with my preferred cut of a hexmark destroyer. I think I can cope with switching out void dragon to a transcendant to snuggle back into 2k though
>>92612905where did you see the win rates? they didn't show (again)
There's no doubt a vocaloid STC somewhere out there.
>>92612845Thing is, BA had a lot of good concepts implemented that should have made it to 10th. Stuff like leadership abilities applying to one selected unit for a turn, or unit restrictions that helped curb a lot of 9th’s powercreep. They could’ve at least had a mission in 10th where vehicles are restricted, for example.
>book follows a a newly promoted Cadian sergeant after fall of Cadia>goes through a shitload of trouble over the course of a year and a half, barely surviving an insane and sadistic trigger happy commissar and a chaos sacrifice >is executed at the end after saving the day>it was her birthday and revealed that she just turned 14Are all Imperial Guard so young. The above was considered a grizzled veteran by the time she was 13. Is that why they’re such terrible soldiers on average, even compared to modern day Earth?
>>92612940>inb4 vtubers
>>92612914>>92612925see >>92612922
>>92612957just grimderp shit as per usual
>>92612828>>92612755 8th+ edition and its terrible terrain rules makes for such shitty terrain placing.
I never play for the points, ever. That's just a side effect that may or may not happen due to game circumstances. I build lists to annihilate the opposition, simple as.In my mind, if I almost table you, even if you say you won due to points, that just pussy excuses. I won, I defeated your forces
>>92612940Abominable intelligence
>>92612990Look out lads, we've got a badass over here
>>92612957Cadians, Kriegers, Vistoyans, Catachans, SoB, and SMs all use child soldiers. Other groups, large like Tanith or Steel Legions, do not. I would say it’s pretty common place as the Imperium doesn’t have the same soft perspective on childhood or family that we do. Ironically, it is the Eldar who are closest to our view, which is one of the many reasons people in the fandom hate them so much.
>>92612990I consider it a personal victory if the number of models left on the field at the end is in the single digits, regardless of sides.Naturally this doesn'r apply to Knights.
>>92612990>if I almost table youDamn even in your made up fantasy you cant imagine actually wiping out the enemy fucking hell anon
The teutonic expansion of medieval 2 was the best warhammer 40k game ever made.
Creed lost Cadia lost The Imperium lost Abaddon won
>>926130063 mechanicus in a trenchcoat?
>>92612986>vague disparaging comment.>no example of a “good” version of the thing they’re complaining about.Sad, many such cases.
>>92612990Can’t tell if bait or actually retarded.
>>92612877In 9e it was optimal but big knights were playableIn 10e big knights are useless, I only use mine to ally with DG or CSM anymore
Anyone have an STL for JUST the filter on the back of the Mars Pattern Leman Russ? I'm working on one of the newer Solar Auxilia ones for a Krieg list and the fact its missing on it is throwing me off but the ones I'm finding on Cults3d are either for full tank bodies or are behind a paywall
>>92613039Make it yourself?
>>92613039how much of it is missing? just the dome or like that whole cover down the hinge or what?
>>9261296740k grimderp is satire and we need more of. The pointless and moronic performative cruelty is funny. Nobody actually wants to win, they just want to drag everyone else into hell with them.
>>92613039>can u gib me dat for free
>>92613015Sydonian Skatros on a budget.
>>92613037Funny how people have done decently at large events with big knights then huh?
>>92613060No, we absolutely don't need nonsensical UGH SO GRITTY shit
Everyone at my LGS wants to start playing necromunda and blood bowl now.
>>92613054I cannot into 3D CAD>>92613058Basically the whole plate, on the stock kit you get a standard grill grate that goes over that part with the hinges. Everything from the hinges down to the end is missing.
>>92613090Why the fuck are we supposed to care?
>>92613090People at mine keep trying to get me to play The Old World, but the game sounds boring as fuck.
>>92613101That’s even worse.
>>92613090I don't understand. What's the problem?
>>92613090As long as they're only ever giving GW money its ok!
Dafuq does this 4 that's all over nuhammer SM art mean?
>>92613088That is literally the core of the setting, if you want noblebright faggot crap, go play Star Wars.
>>926131284 TEH EMPRAH
>>92613120GW’s less fun games. >>92613123Feels bad man.
>>92613136I want grimdark that follows the rules its set for itself for internal consistency, not grimderp wank.
Im still waiting for someone to post a tourney winning guard list that wasnt nerfed
>>92613090BB is so awesome. Literally the only good game gw has ever made.
>>92613138>necromunda>less funWAACfag detected
>>92613128Tell me you never saw a marine model in real life without telling me you never saw a marine model in real life
>>92612967>>92613002Everytime a writer does something that doesn’t agree with the ultra grimdark aesthetic (like people actually caring about their children) they’ll get in trouble with the hardcore grimdark grogs who will scream about how it’s diluting the franchise with sentimentality.
cutiecrons!
>>92613151Not the only one, just the best one and consistently the most fun over time. Also best video games for GW ever.
Not sure if this is the right place for it but if anyone could give me a list of books where Sanguinious interacts with other primachs I would really appreciate it
>>92613163Not really anything to do with sentimentality, its just fucking stupid.
>>92613142Consistency is the least common thing in the 40k universe, so again, it seems like you don’t really like 40k itself.
>>92613178you'll want the Horus Heresy general anon
>>92613159The models I saw IRL had halal arrows, crosses from arrows and flipped Vs. Also completely haram toilet seats.
>>926131284W Primaris coming soon
>>92613142
>>92613099Learn then? Plenty of free software and it isn't exactly a complex shape.
>>92613183Not on the smaller details, but the more broad aspects are mostly kept consistent. Which is why the lore is just dogshit now and I pay zero attentionYou might as well say female space marines are fine because 40k isn't consistent. Just a stupid take over a stupid event
Does anyone know why on Terra the parasite of mortrex still costs 80 points?Fuck I want to use at least 2 of these guys but they just won't really fit at 160 the pair, did they ever commit any crime against balance or is lone operative, potentially reducing OC and battle shock that powerful?It feels that if they costed 65 each it would be perfect, even 70 sound good
>>92613217Back to plebbit
>>92613217They were pretty good for a while, but I don't think GW has really put that much thought into it
>>92613264I had a lot of fun testing 2 parasites with 2-3 neurolictors and 2 screamer killersThey are really fun to use even if they movement was nerfed a little but they do feel overcosted, 2 is the right number to put pressure though, one can kinda be ignored or focused but two seem to make people over extend more, it's also an excuse to use more Ripper Swarms
>>92612914>>92612925Hey can you list some tourney winning guard lists that were not hit by the nerf?
>>92613101I like the list building aspect, but man I don't think I could ever actually finish a game of that.
>>92613345No, which is why they got nerfed.Guard were all spamming Bullgryns, indirect, and Karskin.
>>92612404NTA, but it's not about being a poorfag. I have an airbrush and after using it a few times, it now sits in a corner and collects dust because I hated using it. Even after thinning my paints down a lot (they were almost like water) the nozzle would still constantly get clogged. Maintenance is also a lot easier for regular brushes than it is for airbrushes. With a manual brush, all you gotta do is swish it around in some water for a couple seconds, wipe it off on a towel or something, and your cleanup is done. Not so with an airbrush. You have to meticulously clean it after each use or it will clog up even more frequently that it already does.And now that things like contrast/speed paints are a thing, manual brushing has gotten a lot faster. The only thing I think an airbrush is better than a regular brush at is priming/base coating a large model like a tank. But then you could just go get a spray can and get the same results as an airbrush without any of the maintenance or hassle.
>>92613101It is.Literally WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING rules.Imagine if your characters could only be hit if somethings b2b, but they could strike anything fighting their unit.So people are just daisy chaining lines where the characters chopping through shit while being untouchable.Theres so many dumb rules like this>This unit cant do a charge move>Oh so it cant charge?>No it can still declare charges?????????????????????
>>92612581That wasn't gaslighting. That's how GW has always handled retcons. Yes, it's a stupid way to handle retcons, but it's still not gaslighting. When the Rogal Dorn tank was introduced it was the same thing. They just said "oh the Imperial Guard has always had this tank".
>>92613361Because our army detachment rule only works with artillery. Sure good that they nerf the army with 46% win rate
>>92613414>Because our army detachment rule only works with artillery.No it works with everything.People were spamming indirect because they were comically undercosted
>>92613414They nerf Guard because GW wants to get rid of them. They are nerfing them into the ground to make people stop playing, and thus stop buying, them to justify cutting their model line in the future.
>>92612880Doomstalkers are bad without full rerolls to hit is why.
WHY did they scrap everything but the garganton squiggothWhy keep the meme model and remove everything else thar was fun and could be added to fill in a small spot in a listWhat the fuck man. I love my squiggoth and now he's gone. He stomped so many gits
>>92613457Because GW hates FW and wants to get rid of them.
>>92613457It's fine, he's a Kill Rig now.Yes I'm coping
So how does this replacing of Combat Patrols thing work. Does it mean GW just doesnt update the rules for the old one or that old and new CP are completely incompatible with one another playwise yes I know you can adjust the rules yourself but Im talking from a playing against strangers in a GW store kinda scenario
>>92613470They should get rid of FW stuff though, no cap.
>>92613500No they shouldn't. But they should dump resin and redo all the FW stuff in plastic.
>Canoptek was running circles around Hypercrypts win rate>Somehow dodges nerfsMan the shitpost that the dude who made the books a tourneyfag who only plays Canoptek was real.
>>92613436Classic 40kg nogames post!
>>92613099Just take one of the files that is for a whole tank body, and cut out and delete everything except the air filter?Even a complete newb should still be able to figure out the selection, delete, and undo functions?
>>92613457Honestly the legends sweep was hilariously dumb>Dread Mob has grot vehicles keyword>They removed all the grot vehicles since Kanz are ORK WALKERs and benefitSo if they are squatting all the forgeworld shit, why even include them in the detachment
>>92613436No the detachment says if you dont move you gain the benefit, its literally made for artillery.
>>92613500Guard players in fucking shambles
>>92613538Probably a classic case of departments not talking to each other. Or tempting people to buy the rest of their stock before dumping it all.
>>92613543No its made for moving into position and standing there.You can deploy your Russ' on the deployment zone ruins and have full effect too.But you dont want to get shot so you dont.Its almost like tradeoffs for a powerful rule exist.But even if the artillery wasnt absurd and one of the two main reasons why Guard was tearing up tournaments GW has said repeatedly they dont want indirect to be as strong as it was.How the fuck would it shock you that indirect gets nerfed when the entire guard tournament scene is spamming as many indirect shots as you can.
>>92613457I lost my kill tank, I've only had the fucking thing for six months and I only took it to a few games. Honestly with how much orks have been gutted I have no shame in asking for legends now in my games.
>>92613470Good.They should hate FW. What FW is now is not what it was ever supposed to be.They were for weird shit that you could use in narrative games, because it was cool.Terrax drills, Cyclops demo vehicles, artillery tractors, stuff that would never be in 40K otherwise.Let it go back to being for weird cool stuff, that doesn't have to be balanced.
>>92613575Honestly people should just normalize legends in friendly games.AoS does it and its not an issue.I legitimately cant think of a single legends unit right now that would break the game in 10th.They are all somewhat poorly costed as is.
>No its made for moving into position and standing there.Right anon. Which doesn't work. You moved that turn, so you don't get it. Then your opponent kills you, or just doesn't stand in the way of a demo cannon, and you have to move, so you don't get it. Unlike artillery, which always gets it. "buff when remain stationary" rules are dogshit, just like the marine one which is mathematically solid but unusable
>>92613591This, legends are always going to suck. Many sucked before becoming legends. GW is reaching critical mass and culling at a rapid pace, so much so that they are cutting into new AoS lines first. That should be a lesson for everyone that models are eternal and rules come and go.
Hey.. Oh nice C'tan models. And an SK? Cool cool. Nicely painted. Probably cost a hefty penny huh.Oh that's what you're playing today?Uhhhh.Hey so basically I'm just gonna concede...I know you drove a long way here to play..... UGH I know... It's just that I'm gonna concede haha.Hmmm I guess it is a bit immature lol, but I'm still probably just going to concede, you win haha.Oh come on champ, don't be sad, stay around and spectate me and the guys play the next games! Maybe go flip through the new issue of White dwarf haha.
How much money have you spent on warhammer anon
>>92613642Definitely more than 1K eurodollars
>>92613626why do new players always concede after losing a few models though
>>92613646Low T
>>92613626These posts are always funny to me. Thank you frogman.
>>92613618We had essentially that discussion in my playgroup.If something ends up unfun or broken then we will just "no" it but as it stands someone wants to bring a legends unit go wild.
>>92613646>OH NO I LOST 100 POINTS OF MODELS BEFORE THEY GOT TO SHOOT>FUCK IT I CONCEDE I CANT WIN FROM HERE>While playing on a mission where like 80% of the primary points are scored on turn 5I honestly dont get it
>>92613493combat patrols both new and old are comically unbalanced so I don't think it really matters
>>92613577>FW was only for obscure, weird stuffAnd you just outed yourself as a zoomer who never experienced old FW. Old FW used to offer two whole guard regiment lines, Elysian and Krieg, as well upgrade sprues for multiple units across multiple armies that had rules in their main codex but weren't offered as models by GW's main site. None of that is what anyone would consider "obscure or weird" stuff.
>>92613730I mean I regularly say on turn 2 or 3 “well that’s the game.” But unless it’s totally fucked I’ll play it out. Who knows, sometimes the dice can be lucky.
>>92613751Were the start collecting boxes bad at their time
>>92613770If you are regularly considering the game to be over turn 2, you are probably overcomitting and getting punished badly for it. Or playing an all-in army/list. You can easily have a bad T2 and go on to win big
Funny fun fact: with the new lowered points for Scions, a maximum complement of Scions in your list [full ten man squads, three command squads, six Taurox Primes] is 1,350 points.
>>92613785NTA, but world Eaters pretty much die out that early.
>>92613801And they're still trash compared to Kasrkin.
>>92613818*Fagrkin
>>92613817Yeah, if you're the kind of WE player that goes ung oog push everything forward grooug
the game isn't over until the time is upyou only lose because you admit defeat to yourself before the end
>>92612862In theory you could but it would look awful. A lot of the exo suit parts are partially sculpted into the body and it isn't like the centurion, it's a very bare bones exosuit.
>>92613778the SC! boxes were different because they were not intended to be their own separate game mode, they were simply value boxes for you to jump start collecting an army. And most of them were really fucking good for their price compared to the old combat patrol boxes, and even better than the new boxes.
>>92613778Hell no. SCs were almost all amazing value.
>>92612001>>Emperor's Children Index is coming:>has two sheets>noise marines>and lucius
>>92613823That's literally the only way to get things done within that army. If you don't go first, and you aren't in your opponents gullet,y ou lost the game.
Painting my very first Neophyte Hybrid. Painted 5 Infernus Marines of very questionable quality but this is one much harder to paint. Applied some brown wash but it pooled into to everywhere and dried too quick, maybe I should load the brush less and apply it to specific places. The grey I got is too bright than I had expected and not too happy about it. Painting skin is also a challenge and so easy to fuck it up.I love it. First models are going to suck ass but hopefully by the 2nd Combat Patrol box, things will get better. I like how the Turquoise & Magenta scheme turned out and will continue painting that way. Also a larger brush with a finer, sharper end was easier to work with.
>want to bash together some guys>check out bits>it is more expensive to buy bits to bash some guys together than just buying a box of guys
What army should I play if I am a friendpilled visitmaxxer?
>>92613872The all-in first turn charge is the shitter way to play that a lot of new players fall into, yes. But in reality WE is very fast, combined with MSU gives it late game play.Its something every WE player getting over that is the way you get better, otherwise yes you might as well throw the toys out of the pram against every army with infiltrate screens
>>92613457I think people are missing the fact that GW is phasing out all resin models because they want to squash recasters. It's true you can get plastic models through recasters but they are a much bigger pain to assemble in resin that will scare off lazy normies.
>>926139063D printing was designed for people like youdisregard people that tell you it's too hard
>>92613907Custodes
>>92613911>Its something every WE player getting over that is the way you get betterHoly fuck I had a strokeIts something every WE player has to get over to get better*
>>92613888Looks good. You will be running them in large blobs anyway so a slight imperfection here or there won't be noticed.
>>92613907>friendpilled visitmaxxer
>>92613574>GW has said repeatedly they dont want indirect to be as strong as it wasTheyve been saying that since 9thIm more shocked they didnt buff the other units to compensate, we got far more nerfs than buffs. >You can deploy your Russ' on the deployment zone ruins and have full effect too.Not with a proper table terrain setup, wont be able to hit shit, especially if I go first
How many Guardsmen squad should I collect?Is six squads of ten a good start or more a zenith maximum to achieve?
>>92613646Because the game is clearly over?>Oh wow I lost 500pts of models that turn and I have barely anything left, yeah im going to go do something more productive instead of playing an inevitable loss for another 90min.
>>92613944Loser mindset. Weak. Limp.
>>92613931Guard should outnumber an Ork horde.
>>92613931that use to be the bare minimum but nobody runs infantry anymore
>>92613952How much is on an ork horde?
>>92613931Guard is an artillery army You should only bring enough infantry to screen your arty and grab objectivesKasrkin and bullgryns are best at this, Catachan are nice too.
>>92613931you should not think in terms of squads but rather in terms of platoons. So how many platoons do you want in your army (cmd squad + 2-6 squads, I don't know if you're going to collect different regiments or just one)
>>92613951Still physically stronger than you while being a lower % bf, cope and seethe
>>92613922The guides I've seen make it look easy but I noticed how little they actually show the painting process. I get a rough understanding of the order of paints I sort of use but in reality that doesn't really amount to anything.Also one anon asked if Vallejo paints have a bubbling issue. The ones I've used weren't bubbly at all, but the metallic ones suck ass and it was too watery out of bottle. I used Warlord Purple, Turquoise, VMC Black, VGC Gunmetal, Bright Bronze, Stonewall Grey, Tan, Flesh & Umber Washes.
>>92613574It's not Guard player's fault that GW fucked their own design. No one wants to play a stationary indirect fire army. But that's what the cunts gave us.
Any guesses what Chapter this is?the main story in this issue was Salamanders v Eldar so likely them
>>92613969Maybe you can flex a bit while crying and conceding turn 2 lmao
>>92613931At most 4, ideally 2 or 3, really depends what point range you are trying to play. Don't be one of those retards who thinks battleline spam is viable or fun outside or very specific detachments otherwise you're gonna be one of those retards in here crying that ____ faction is OP because they mulched your army instantly. Go look at their toughness value.
I'm genuinely going to be bit peeved if GW makes noise marines the only core marine available to emperor's children.
>>92613958So if I collect two or three platoons(a command squad and three infantry squads) of Armageddon Steel Legion it won't be unusable shelf hoggers? Because I thought it would be neat to have a core of Steel Legion and then compliment them with a platoon or two(again, one command squad and three squads) of other Regiments. Like, Cadians painted like Verohven Starship Troopers, or Ork Hunters kitbashedngtom Necromunda Gangers, Catachan, and Chaos, and Fantasy kits.
>>92613984>Salamanders v EldarOnly one way that can end.
Points have been updated in the app. The new Eldar points are incredibly god tier for casual games, I can now fit rangers AND shining spears into my 1k list.
>>92613986I will and I will attract all the cute trannies an enbies in the shop and fuck them while you roll some dice
>I won on pointsYou didn't win then
>>92613989I'm sure GW will release some Slaanesh Hedonites with an upgrade sprue.
>>92613989none of the other cult legions have 2 battleline marine options. I can't imagine EC being different in this regard
>>92613990The entire guard codex is unusable shelf hoggers anon
>>92613968Was hoping to make a big Battle group of different Regiments, primarily Steel Legion guest starring others, those others being Cadian Shock Troops, Armageddon Ork Hunters, and maybe DKoK and Jopall Indentured.
>>92614002That guy here that really wanted to run a guardian themed army is probably celebrating right now. Even Storm guardians got a huge glow up.
>>92613989You'll take your noise marines, your Lucius, your generic EC lord, terminators if you're VERY lucky, and Slaangors, and you'll like it.
That point update on Crusaders and Death Cult assassins hurts. GW kicking me where I can't do anything about it.
>>92613984Kind of reminiscent of the Dragon Lords too.
>>92614008Rulebook says otherwise, chudster
>>92614008If you agreed a win condition and someone met it, they won.If you only consider tabling to be winning, your opponent's list wouldn't be built to score but to kill.
>>92613961a lothonestly though, 6 squads should be more than plenty
>You didn't win then
>>92613766FW started releasing imperial armour compendiums in 2000.They didn't release Elysians until 2006, and Krieg weren't until 2007.That's over half a decade of them doing nothing but what I said, releasing the odd weird model. Mostly just variants and conversion kits for IG tanks.
Iron Hands should have blue and gold weapons now
I will never forgive you GW
>>92614008That's cool man, I still get my crusade agenda rewards though. Really like the narrative spin you got going there. Ready to roll for battle scars?
>>92614040Not involved in this conversation But Elysians and Krieg are approaching end-game FW before it became the main studio's B team lel
>>92614041Hate to say it but green remains the best color for SM
>>92614040I regret not buying some of the IG tank commanders they use to sell. I have some of them but the ones I'm missing rarely show up on Ebay and go for like $200
>>92613973Maybe this could help Anon.
>>92613928>Im more shocked they didnt buff the other units to compensate, we got far more nerfs than buffs.Nigger what, they nerfed 4 units and buffed 11.They are literally just trying to push guard off of the single artillery spam list with Bullgryns jacking off on points.
>>92614042That's one clean fridge
>>92614021based army of armaggeddon regiments
>>92614076Most of those buffs are just the underused Leman Russ while the most popular one remained unchanged point wise. So if you reduce the Leman Russ to count as one unit, it's 6 point reductions vs. 4 cost increases.
>>92613984That issue had a story about salamanders in it, so I suspect that's what the cover art is supposed to be.Issue 14 of inferno was published in 99, which is before the salamanders got their redesign in the Armageddon campaign supplement.
My favourite nugget of Forge World obscura is that they partnered with Irish Heritage to make a range of Warmaster castles based on real ones in Ireland >>92614069 I wish I bought a Kroot Bird so bad
>>92614041No. I don't like that.
>>92614042The real crime is that never got a plastic kit and instead they made things like hunta-rigs and 'nauts instead of that. FUCK YOU GW!
>>92614013Yes but every worldeater has the nails, every non-phsycic thousand son got turned into a rubric, and plague marines are endemic in the death guard.But the emperor's children, by contrast, has loads of rank and file degenerates who hyperfocus on other things than louds noises.
>>92614076Bullgryns are brought for a reason. If you slap 10pts on them and then chip off 10pts on a unit that doesn't replace it in its role where it is basically auto include, you didn't really change anything. You just made the faction slightly worse.
>>92614078Thank you.
>big mek with KFF is now legendsWell there goes my kitbash idea. Guess I could try and turn it into a shokk attack mek instead. I might just say fuck it and use him anyways, to me this is still the platonic ideal of a big mek
>>92614111I like the Gorkanaut. Fuck the rig.
>>92614076If you reduce the lemun russes to one profile for considering point buff in total the nerfed units went up 65pts and the buffed units went down 40pts, so its def bad. They also didnt buff most of the units that are shit or never used
>>92614127You can still do the kitbash it just won't have any wargear. Also don't forget to buy a MANz box to field the only way GW wants you to run the KFF!
>>92614096Guard players will literally bend reality to try and make themselves seem persecuted.>Guard players complain that their tanks are too expensive>GW drops points significantly on all but 1 Leman Russ variant"I can't believe GW have the nerve to not make demolishers or tank commanders cheaper, GW hates us!"
Why do Snaggas exist? They look horrible (thematically) and so do those AoS skinny orcs and LGS employees keep trying to get me to get both.
>>92614120Bullgryns needed a hit and are still probably going to be spammed because their datasheet gives them something guard really shouldn't have on infantry.Karskins ate it too hard and are probably just completely gone.indirect got hit just enough.Like I don't even think this was a great solution but anyone whose upset by this hasn't been paying attention to the very specific guard lists winning a ton of tournaments.IMO I would have left Karskins alone and slapped Ursula and Lord Solar.
>>92614155NTA but you're not taking say, a LR Eradicator at 160 or 150. Does that change impact anything or does the points on units that are actually good matter?I'll give you a hint, its the latter
>lancer >tyrant >huntsman>karnivore>porphyrion1-10 how shit is this list
>>92614127Because they're releasing a new Big Mek model who can have a KFF or something else, I forget what they said it was. 1 new model with options replacing an old model that had no options.
>>92614159kruleboyz look great. you might just have shit taste
>>92614155>What the fuck guards shit now>Not if you are spamming indirect and bullgryns>I refuse I only play dudes and tanks>Well heres buffs to tanks>How could you do this to meGuardfags every time.In before someone starts spamming tanks and this fag has to backpedal because as it turns out a cheap T11 2+ save tank is pretty good even if its gun isnt broken
>>92614159Snaggas were going to be one of the Ork factions for the canned "Age of Guilliman" AoS-type reboot of 40k. Like a self-contained army with a certain theme.Kind of like Kruleboyz for AoSYou can see it in the Primaris range too.Like the Phobos Marines compared to the Sacrosanct Chamber (rip) for Stormcast
>>92614192Wait, can the romperstomper mek have a KFF? I thought it was just the tractor cannon or a kmb
>>92614155Don't put words in my mouth, I'm simply pointing out that your buffs vs. nerfs numbers are misleading. I play Sisters.
>>92614197Little negro, if you go armor heavy the changes have maybe freed up 50pts. Likely less. Do you really think that is the difference between every guard player that actually does well running a specific list and suddenly normal tank/infantry lists being viable?
>>92614197Indirect and bullgyrns got nerfed anon
>>92614201kruleboyz are actually refreshes of the old 1st edition orcs from before the 90s "ork" design took over their greenskins
>>92614228I'm going to miss these little bastards when they get squatted with the codex
>>92614224Faggot guards problem was their miserable Necron matchup.So yes getting an extra 60 points and your worst matchup slapped is pretty damn nice.
>>92613618>GW is reaching critical mass and culling at a rapid pace, so much so that they are cutting into new AoS lines first.Mass isn't the issue, the issue is that once players have their army they stop buying models. They want the rotating format seen in card games, a slow conveyor belt that runs through the range every couple of years. But a wargame has more design restrictions, they don't have the same amount of options. So instead units go into legends then get cycled back in with a slightly different model later, preferably with a different scale or something that makes the old model unplayable.
how come people are saying that anyone complaining about shooty orkz getting screwed by this codex is an eldar false flagger, yet I've never seen a single person post an ork with a gold paint job? surely all of the true ork fans who are ecstatic about these new rules would be rejoicing by posting their shiny gitz who are so good now, right?
>>92614209That anon is stupid. He cannot have a KFF.
>>92614209I believe so, I'm trying to find where I saw it. I think I heard it in a few youtube reviews of the leaked info but I was sure I saw the new codex datasheet somewhere. Trying to find it.
>>92614255I'm painting gleaming gitz now but they'll be choppy because I'm a contrarian.
>>92614268Maybe you're mixing it up with his ORIGINAL DONUT STEEL tellyporta
>>92614246>So yes getting an extra 60 points and your worst matchup slapped is pretty damn nice.Necrons? Slapped? They got a light touch. As did actually good guard lists, so its just a wash in that regard.
>>92614303Tourney guard lists got nerfed about 80 - 100 points
>>92614209I was wrong, after looking at Auspex Tactics datasheet review the new big mek can't have a KFF, only the big mek in mega comes with it now.
>>92614197Its the same shit as the Chaos Knights changes last MFM, Brigands got a points bump and the big knights got a points drop because everyone takes the former and the latter are shitCK players still just run brigands because surprise surprise, slightly cheaper models that are shit are still shit, and the WR just drops.Nobody cares the russ with a S7 AP1 gun got a points decrease. It is a worthless change that does nothing. But the good units getting a points bump actually has an effect
>>92614303Necrons got a decent 10% minimum increase on "good lists", but in reality necrons will remain very strong until they nerf hypercrypt because that detachment rule is cancer
Why did the emperor fail during WW2?
Based Spidey getting even more based
>>92614201>the canned "Age of Guilliman" AoS-type reboot of 40k
>>92614074Thanks. I didn't exactly get the colors I was hoping for but I can't be arsed with getting more paints as I have a lot already. Vallejo Turquoise is rather bluish, and I wanted a greener tone. Same with Warlord Purple, it's not exactly the burgundy tone I was hoping for.
>>92614249This. We lost Resin models from 2010? Whats next, models from 2011????? I can't keep up with this treadmill
>>92614358Just skip ahead to Warhammer 45,000 and introduce all new female characters and armies, with 5,000 years of additional lore to back their presence up.
>>92614161>Karskins ate it too hard and are probably just completely goneAren't they still pretty good for the cost? Good amount of weapons, scout move and self-sufficient
How do we save Nids?
New>>92614416>>92614416>>92614416
>>92614426way too early
>>92614341Chaos Knights will always be shit.And both them and Imperial Knights NEED to be shit.They are a badly implemented faction, and the need to keep them cross compatible with other super factions has ruined their ability to balance them properly.The chances of Knights ever being even close to good, almost guarantees that they'll end up being broken (or at least massively overrepresented) as allies. So they'll always end up mediocre at best.
>>92614426Anon what the fuck? >319 posts>61 Images>Page 2Why the fuck would you make a new thread?
>>92614452that anon eats paint, give them a break.
>>92614412Kinda, they are still super fragile.I feel like people will panic and drop them then eventually settle on a single squad.
>So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark--that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.
Real new >>92610604>>92610604>>92610604
>>92614481still too damn early.
>>92614426>>92614481Why.
>>92614473I still plan on running two. I like my boys.
>>92614368They can't do seasons with the same speed as card games because their product is 10 times more expensive. They can only farm so much per customer. A season lasts 1-2 years in MtG, so a decade long cycle is a similar fit. Which is exactly what is happening in AoS.
>>92613917The funny thing is that I can buy a weapon bit for 15 bucks or a whole model with the same weapon from another seller for 16 bucks.
>>92614487>>92614489>>92614492Tricked
All the femstodes posters got banned but the regulars still can't control themselves.
how come orkz and space jannies got points updated from their codex that isn't even out yet but tau doesn't even have the new unit entries from their codex that you can already get?
>>92614161I think the problem with slapping solar with a points nerf is that he is so auto-include that'd it just be a nerf to the whole army. The problem is that solar does stuff that no other unit can do. Unless the really buff the generic officer units he's still going to be a mandatory pick. Ursula kind of takes a hit by kasrkin getting hit as they're probably her best unit to lead.
>>92614352The actual main problem unit for Necrons besides C'tan (wraiths) was absolutely untouched
do I buy a chaos knight or cheats for tarkov to fuck with kids?
>>92614506Tau get nothing, like they deserve
When will I have Kroot in the battlescribe?
>>92614509I think the +1 CP warlords need to majorly eat shit in general.Its not fair to punish just him but GW really fucked up CP gen and free strats
>>92613024Try using your brain.
>>92613618>all those people who sell their armies, instead of just playing older editions with their friends or homebrewed rulesSiggypiggies are something else.
>tau player near me
>>92614522Soon™
>>92614506>but tau doesn't even have the new unit entries from their codex that you can already get?Maybe it because english is not my first language, but what do you mean?
>>92614506Our codex is out on Saturday
>>92614506Tau codex isnt out for another week or so.>Why not just give it nowBecause GW is retarded
>>92614526My local gaming group T'au player is a complete gym bro, he's absolutely ripped.
>>92614576In awe of the size of this lad Absolute unit
>>92614504Nothing wrong with nu-Lore
>>92614041I miss Scorpion Green, so loud.
>best painted army I have ever seen were some ultramarinesEach was a gleaming work of art. I hate it.
>>92614523It's not even the free CP, it's the three orders to EVERYTHING. Even things that no other officer can target like Bullgryns. If you want to target Tanks with orders so they can actually land any shot you either pick him or pay a premium for the Tank Commander who can only do ONE order for 100 points more than Lord Solar.
>>92614626https://acrylicosvallejo.com/en/product/hobby/game-color-en/scorpy-green-72032/
>>92614634Ultramarines can be fine when allowed to have some personality instead of just being posterboys. Like during the battle for Macragge or Calth.
>>92614626This is similar, didnt like Vallejo's offerings.
>swarmlord goes down to 240>still not taking it for 240 points>Hive tyrants also still overpriced as fuck.
>>92614636Yeah I dont see why he wasnt nerfed, hes in every single guard list (except mine)
>>92614663Because Guard would become the first 20% winrate army
>>92614542>>92614552the tau codex has been out for weeks. just because you can't buy it by itself doesn't mean it isn't released. what points are you supposed to use now? the ones printed in the codex? or will the update the field manual again?
>>92614634I don't mind Ultramarines when they're not painted as if they've just walked off the parade ground.
>>92614662Crazy how they nerfed their points into the trashcan because their free Stratagems were so strong on the same fucking day they nerfed the free strats to only target battle tactics.
>>92614689You can either use codex if your store lets youBut the rules are currently you cant use them until they are officially on munitorium.Which is why the tau release has been so bafflingly dumb that people who got their boxes a month ago still cant use them
>>92614695Nah that can look good too if you commit to the bit and make it their armor look like polished marble.
>>92614713I was wondering why the kroot box came out before the rules did.
I've noticed my marines shouledrpads look really empty because they don't have a chapter symbol. Since they have a blue-green colour I decided something nautical could be cool, and decided that either a harpoon or the letter Theta would be simple enough to stencil in. Which design looks better? Excuse the very simple drawing.
>>92614786Bottom right looks like an anus
FUCKING WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY????????????
>>92613457>Why keep the meme model and remove everything else thar was fun and could be added to fill in a small spot in a listNigga you answered your own question- they clearly don't want fw models in a game unless you're shitposting
>>92614721I just dont really like blue all that much. :D
>>92614790Isn't it lowkey good now with one of the new detachments?
>>92614786I like the top two the best
>>92614786Bottom left looks like a wonky Nike logo.
>>92614713The Tau release highlights an increasing issue with GW when it comes to organization. What is going on with them for the past year or so? GW before was greedy, sure, but their releases were still organized and made at least some kind of sense. For the past year though, everything has been disorganized and just seems to generally be a big shit show.Are they having a competency crisis? High staff turnover? Are different departments not communicating effectively? What is going on with GW that it seems like they can't even effectively pull off the basic functions of a corporation of their size?
Where are my DA buffs????>TQBrushstroke painting guides
>>92614806It's overpriced regardless if you use that detachment or not. It being good in a detachment should be separate from it's points value overall. It should be closer to 650.
>>92614806AND SAY WHAT YOU SAID
>>92614662Assimilation will be good with all the multi wound bodies getting cheaper & the psychophage, Vanguard will be good with warriors and Lictors getting cheaper, and we'll limp by with a 47-48% wr
>>92614812Unironically its because they can't keep up with demand. Their commitment to keeping production in Britain + Brexit affecting shipments out of the UK means their production is completely fucked which is why shit gets delayed or has bizarre release schedules. Just look at how they basically shut down Horus Heresy and related side games down for the AoS launch because they quite literally cannot handle both at the same time on top of the endless 40k consuming.
Posting sisters for SoB edition.Have they leaked the teased thing we're supposed to be getting soon?
>>92614845Catgirls of Battle?
Space Marine Tactical Squad ( 5 x Marines) - 80pts- Heavy BolterSpace Marine Tactical Squad ( 5 x Marines) - 80pts- Heavy BolterSpace Marine Tactical Squad ( 5 x Marines) - 75pts5 x Scout Snipers - 90pts- Sniper Rifles3 x Scout Bikers - 75pts- Twin Linked Bolters4th Edition Combat Patrol, I'm only playing with what I have painted so far and I have no counter to my opponents Grotesques who can't be killed by ranged weapons below Str 6.I'm fucked boys.
>>92614845Are those argent shroud?
Thoughts
>>92614815Terminators and hellblasters got cheaper, that's all we're getting. Deathwing Knights will see play now as crowd control managing the sea of green retardsEverything else DA specific is still trash, though it is hilarious they let Azrael slide and made Lion exactly the same price as the Nightbringer so you can definitively point out how much shittier/unplayable he is by comparison
>>92614851Sisters of cattle, sister of nyattle, sisters of meowtle... I've struggled to decide.>>92614860They are!
>>92614834What baffles me about that though is why GW seems to want to have their cake and eat it too? I mean, they clearly want to be a multinational corporation since they market to and do business in many different countries, but at the same time they also want to stay this small to medium sized domestic company and refuse to expand their production and corporate infrastructure to the level that any other multinational corporation would.It's like they truly cannot decide what they want their corporate identity to be.
>>92614858>I have no counter to _______could put just about anything in that blank with that list bucko
>>92614807>>92614809You aren't wrong but I can't think of another way to convey a harpoon in a fully solid symbol. I like the Theta symbol as well, maybe with slightly thicker lines?
>>92614822>assimilation will be good>vanguard will be goodTiny point changes dont suddenly make an army rule good anonThe only thing that needs experimenting with is Psychophage but in reality nids gameplan hasnt changed at all
>>92614861Kind of hate stuff like this, it's supposed to be art, not little mechanical toys that move around and make your layering/shading look janky and bad compared to how it was painted sitting in a single pose
>>92614845Do you have army lists you are running right now? Just curious what others anons are doing right now.
>>92614885You don't fucking understand bro my list gained 40 points these rules are good now
>>92614885The army rules aren't the problem when your schtick is 'have a giant pile of cheap sneaky/durable bodies and outscore your opponent,' the problem is having enough units to pull off this game plan. Points drops on units you want multiples of in these lists can stack up to like 100 points and allow you to squeeze in that one last unit you need to get tabled a turn later than you should've and outscore your opponent enough he can't make up the difference.Tho I think Assimilation has the potential to actually kill shit better than other tyranids lists, it already see fringe play in competitive circles and just needed a boost
>>92614861Neat.
>>92614916Two psychophages and 3 units of warriors/ tyrant guard is not saving you 100 points, that's a pretty big fuckin deal when all of these were already what Assimilation lists were running/warming up to
>>92614958Brooooo the stuff that isn't placing is cheaper poggerrrrrrs
>>92614958Is now saving you*, tho desu it's more like 130 since you wanted max stacks of warriors/tg
>>92614900No list, I'm only at (when I finish painting the unpainted stuff I have ATM) about 1500 points.Which is 2 combat patrols (minus the 2 rhinos) plus Vahl, plus celestine, plus a couple squads of sisters/retributors.Not got much of a local scene for playing
>>92614861I'm chopping up a termie auto cannon to shove a rotor in and let the chambers actually spin right now
>>92614958>>92614971The opportunity to bring out your max warrior lists is going to be pretty much literally any other time other than when Orks are about to go on a rampage and the meta is going to be mindful of being able to pick up that sort of infantry statline in droves
>>92614963Assimilation placed last week wtf are you talking about? It's not everywhere sure, but if it shows up as a fringe list and gets 130 points that's a huge fucking juice
>>92614786>>92614879I like the top left, but I think it should be more "striking downwards", rotate it 180.
>>92614861based DIYer
>>92614997>Assimilation placed last weekOh yeah? Which event
>>92614861I already have critical addiction to magnetizingnow this is giving me dangerous ideas
>>92614886You say that, but this kind of stuff is becoming increasingly common. I wouldn't be surprised at all of this is the next direction the hobby goes in: models that can move around the table on their own based on commands the player gives them.
>>92614989I see. Though I'll say 1,000 points (and 1,500) are army lists.
>>92614996Hence why I mentioned tyrant guard as well, those things living through combat and popping back up it going to be extremely painful for orks
>>92614930Thats why I said the nid gameplan hasnt changed, when its the most miserable part about playing the faction.Theres a few games where having a unit more will actually help you scratch out a win, but in reality the enemy can either deal with your bloated mess or he cant and in most cases they will not give a shit that you have another pound of flesh to slice through. Warriors especially are just simply too fragile to even act like being able to take more means much at all.
>>92615023I don't have a fucking clue why you think Tyrant Guard are an Ork counter
>>92615017you say that but the guy said his next project is a warlord titan that can walk around
>>92615023The point was not that you're good into orks, its that everyone is going to be writing lists that can deal with them, that also happen to deal with large numbers of warriors. Which is just a shittier list
>>92615015Scorched Earth Open, nigga
>>92615051Okay...not really sure what your point is since that only reinforces the point I made.
>>92615018Mhm, still a few more bits to paint up before reaching 1500 though! If rhinos ever go back into stock I'll want a couple of those, plus an exorcist. Which will be most of the remainder taking me to 2k.Oh there's also the nundams at the back. To go with Vahl. Other than the 2 characters and an extra box of two of battle sisters, rest is literally just 2 of the old start collecting boxes, so literally the combat patrol, minus rhinos. I'd like to squeeze some sacrosancts in too though.
>>92615034>Why does the T8 model with 4 wounds stand up well to a mob of str 5 boyzIdk anon, maybe because I did basic arithmetic
>>92615056>Zero warriorshaah waawand he came 5th, I guess thats a "placement"
>>92615075Oh you're just a retard? Gotcha. Orks aren't killing with Choppas, they're doing it with PKs or Killsaws, which are both over S9 and 2 damage, perfect for ripping tyrant guard apart
What army does he play?
Konfess
>>92615090Female Custodes.
>>92615090Tau:>>92614576>My local gaming group T'au player is a complete gym bro, he's absolutely ripped.
>>92615090Knights and marines.Im saying this from experience, hilariously enough his picture was posted here and on /v/ a couple times next to his ugly fwb at a fair which was wild to see randomly
>>92615076I was talking about warriors more for Vanguard, but it's okay, I'm getting the impression you're too retarded to figure out what unit is meant for who>HE-HE DIDN'T PLACE TOP 3Yeah, you're definitely a retard if you don't get why top 10 matters lmao
>>92614786You should do a trident, still simple, more readable than a harpoon and is present in real heraldry
>>92614886I feel the opposite way. they are toys that you pick up and move around so they should look good from any distance or angle. I can't stand the idea that people have that your minis only have to look good from one angle and a certain distance like it's some roped off piece in an art display.
>>92614886But this IS art.>>92615017>>92615051Reminds me of the board game robo Rally. Was a fun little game where you control a robot by assigning it a set of directions. Other players bot action might interfere with yours but you still follow the orders which might take you into walls or traps and shit. I miss it.
>>92615090Space Wolves. With zero wulfen (not that they're worth taking anymore anyways), and zero primaris.
Do any Ork players convert the warboss in MA into a big mek in MA?
>>92615120>3 units of warriors/ tyrant guard ... all of these were already what Assimilation lists were running>I was talking about warriors more for VanguardMemory of a goldfish>Yeah, you're definitely a retard if you don't get why top 10 matters lmaoI don't care if 1 list at an event once in a blue moon manages a low placement, no that doesn't fuckin' matter. Admech has managed more placements than that, are they a good faction?
>>92615139stick some gubbinz on his back for a KFF and give him a proper gun and he'll do fine
>>92615139I've seen a few guys take the old Ghaz and convert to big mek
>>92614876This is fair
>>92615084>Orks aren't killing with Choppas, they're doing it with PKs or KillsawsYes, and they're not bringing a whole lot of either in the new green tide detachment. The scariest one on the book. You fucking retard.
What would convince you to be a cultist for Chaos /tg/?
>>92615093I don’t see anything wrong with femstodes nor GW’s retcon response.
Words cannot describe how much I hate bases like this
>>92615166>and they're not bringing a whole lot of either in the new green tide detachment. The scariest one on the bookLOLFirst the shit take with Ass swarm, now Green Tide is the best detachment. 2 for 2 on just being painfully out of touch
>>92615093I'm an Ork player and I hate green tide
>>92615125This. The people that treat their minis like precious works of art are the "hobbyists" that just build and paint the minis but don't actually play the game. Personally, I think those types are harmful to the hobby. Had one of those types criticize the basic basing I do for my infantry (just a coat of glue on the base and then dip the base in some sand and tiny gravel) saying I need to "create a scene" with each base. I told him I do it this way because I actually play the game and I don't want my bases to be able to fit in on any type of table and terrain that I might be playing on.
>>92615177
>>92615177>the cheese container
>>92615168already am
>>92615177Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion, man
>>92615204I would unironically refuse to play with someone who tried to run that in their army. I'd tell them to remove it from their army list or find someone else to play. That type of mini is a display piece, not a game model.
>>92615177tacticool rocks?
>>92615204Not even
>>92615188>G-green tide isn't goodOh no I am laffin
>>92615238And this
>>92615246Not what I said, ESL. The Ork book is busted, and green tide is good. Its just not as scary as the other horseshit its capable of.
>>92615166Anon a single blob of Boyz as a unit is maybe 300~ pts including HQ/Leaders. Even as Battleline you probably don't want to take more than 3-4 of these. Add in Ghaz and you still have 500+ to spend on answers for stuff like that.My current front runner is Mek Gunz for D6 shots S12 -3 D6 damage per model at 50pts a piece, and you can have 3 in a cluster. Good for holding backline/stopping deepstrikes, too.
>>92615227What about kneeling dreads?
>shit damage>shit survivability and no invul>shit abilities>b-but IT'S LONE OPSo why is the Parasite of Mortrex worth 80 points, again?
>>92615168Sex with demonettes would be nice, but the community itself is worth it.
>>92615261Nope. Wouldn't play with that either. If you are building a model with the intent of playing the game, then it should roughly conform to the intended height of the model. Anything else will be assumed as you trying to gain some kind of competitive advantage, and thus I will refuse to play against you.
>>92615177>>92615204>>92615233>>92615238Leave them to me.
>>92615290If you showed up with that to a game, even as a joke, I would kick you in the dick.
>>92615227You sound like a huge loser in this post. Do better.
Anyone know where these come from? I think 3D printed but no idea what to search for.
>>92615314Wargames Atlantic is my guess
>>92615166I think you're high if people aren't far more scared of Bully Boyz Manz at 30ppm with Nobz also running around. Genuine insanity
>>92615256The gameplan isn't to kit out every squad, it's to cram in a shitton and out oc everything while being a massive pain in the ass to kill because most blast weapons are modeled around t4, not t5
>>92615312Whatever, cheater. Trying to gain a LOS advantage through basing is a pretty scummy thing to do. Also, I don't owe anyone a game, so if someone has a model that I feel is unfair in some way, I'm going to refuse to play them.
>>92615332Obscuring ruins are infinitely tall you know that right
>>92614525Do you see 40k players doing that
>>92615332That’s the official base, mongoloid. >implying you play at all anyway lel
>>92615090>chad>/fit/ >greyscale>represents a concept/character trait >has his own leitmotif He plays a /hisdudes/ Harlequins Masque with monochrome scheme, intricate freehand, and perfect geometric patterns.
>>92615345Not every piece of terrain is a ruin. Don't tell me you're one of those fags that only plays on shitty "urban ruin" tables?
>>92615320No, but they do have some pretty nice Ctan proxies, better than the GW ones anyway.
>>92615358Oof, don't tell me you only apply obscuring to ruins because the book said so. Cringe.
>>92615090Ultramarines
>>92615322Elite lists are nowhere near as scary in a meta where people are already kitting out to deal with elites and the transports they ride around in. A giant horde of 1 woind bodies that are slightly tougher than the baseline for blast weapons? Not so much
>>92615354Don't care. Like I said, I consider that type of mini to be a display piece, not a game model so I won't play anyone who has it in their army. My Personal policy is that all non-flyer minis have to be glued directly to the base or I'm going to assume you're a cheater trying to gain an advantage.
>>92612593They were always women.
>>92615368Wait, damn, not Ctan, whats the word I'm looking for? Caldari? Callidus? Death planet lads, whatstheirname?
>>92615378Catachan
>>92615370No, I use terrain rules that make sense. I use true LOS and actual height of terrain to determine LOS.
>>92615374Fortunately, your opinion means shit and you’re both gay and incorrect. Good day, xir.
Titan owners, why did you do it?
>>92615386Ah, that'll be why you're so anti-hobby
>>92615396God these things look ugly
>>92615392Imagine getting this ass mad over someone's personal play preferences. I've noticed people like you always get so angry whenever someone says "I refuse to play against someone that..." It's like you believe everyone owes you a game of 40k and you throw a tantrum like a child and lash out with insults whenever someone refuse to play you for any reason.
>>92615279How about my demon prince? I didnt model for advantage, I just hate tac rocks and had a spare deredeo part lying about from my horus heresy army Also post models anons , need more models in this thread
>>92615396because having disposable income is a good thing.
>>92615177How will your buds know their supposed to listen to you if you aren't taller than everyone else? Orks have known about this from day one
>>92615414post army
>>92615314Makers Cult Universal Guard
>>92615420Your daemon prince is fine because it still roughly confirms to the intended height of the model.As requested. One of my Valhallans.
>>92615443-10VP
>>92615447Thankfully, my local scene doesn't acknowledge that shitty "rule"
>>92615443One model isn’t an army. Post army.
>>92615440Niiice anon, thanks, you're a legend.
>>92615449No money for primer, cretin?
>>92615453That’s just my personal play preference. You’ll accept the -10 vp or you’ll play with someone else.
>>92615227>Go to tourney>Argue and refuse to play against someone who has an official GW based model>Get kicked out of tourneyBased retard
How hard would it be to just 3d print one of those titans? Would it be any cheaper? I imagine the quality wouldn't be that good either.
>>92615453>The rule that asks you to finish your models is a "shitty rule"lmao
>>92615459Is that Limmy? Whats wrong with him, did he just read the Custodes codex changes or what?
>>92615454I don't take orders from autistic anons. Another anon politely asked me to post one of my models, so I did. You can fuck off though. Especially since I called you out for getting ass mad over my personal preferences so now you're trying to fall back to your shitty meme responses like it's some kind of "gotcha!"
>>92614861Awesome!
>>92615484No army, no games. Got it. See you next time, spedposter.
>>92615465I don't play in tournaments. Tournaments are for WAACfags.>>92615462Ok, then I'll play someone else. See how that works? Notice how I didn't get ass mad and seethe about your preferences?
>>92615503Post army.
>>92615481He's scottish they all look like that eventually >>92615484>>92615443Nice anon, it was more of a general request for folk to post models but always nice to see valhallans, how many points do you have
>>92615513No. You don't get to speak with any kind of authority.
>>92615479>How hard would it be to just 3d print one of those titans?Not particularly hard, just a bit time consuming. >Would it be any cheaper?Yes, Warhound is about £70 in resin. Warlord is about £250 - £300 in resin. >I imagine the quality wouldn't be that good either.You wouldn't even notice the difference in quality, just use a resin printer, obviously it'll look significantly crappier if you use a FDM printer.
>>92615515Our local club doesn't use points, thats for waacniggers
>>92615174Same, I just wish GW elaborated more beyond that single story.
>>92615519Post army, it isn’t hard. You’re not just here to make disruptive shitposts, are you anon?
>>92615528I never thought points was a good way to balance the game
>>92615528Lmao daydreaming failure comfirmed
>>92615528
>>92615544>Post a single shitty painted model I mean if I was anon, i'd also be embarrassed about posting more of that
>>92615528Eh, keep unbalanced sides for games like Necromunda anon.
>>92615544NTA, but wheres YOUR army?
>>92615515I have 521 points (pretty small) according to 8th Edition point values (the edition we mostly play)My army is one company commander, a command squad, two infantry squads, a heavy weapons squad (auto cannons), a Leman Russ Demolisher, and a Chimera
>>92615523Less of a absolute pain in the balls than fucking warped forgeworld resin too.
>>92615591he doesnt have one. He spams replies until you realise you dont need to reply to him or you post army and he mocks you in some way. Ive seen him do it a couple times.
>>92612982Does a mechanicum priest even have the right to take a guardsmen an turn them into a servitor? They would require authorization if the subject wasn't a vassal of their's, right?
>>92615577At least he has models. Where are yours?
Should I buy a printed Reaver Titan?
>>92615627I'd suggest some deodorant first, stinky
>>92615592>Playing Valhallan>Not a single hellhound Come on anon, up your game and get some flamming tanks
>>92615635Wat?!
>>92615642My Chimera is running double heavy flamers (turret and hull) so it's kinda like a discount hellhound with transport capability.
>>92615642And I do have a hull mounted heavy flamer on the Leman Russ (sponsonscare multi-meltas) and the two infantry squads and command squad all have flamers as their special weapons.Don't worry, I definitely didn't forget that Valhallans love their flamers.
>>92615616Wow, that is beyond pathetic. : (
>>92615672Nice anon >>92615687Nice Blightdrone anon, need to go over with a brush or something to get that dust off, doing a deservice to a nice paintjob !
>>92615577>>92615619I'm still waiting anon...where are your models?
>>92615703I dont think he has any anon
Toxicrene could've used a points cut too...
>>92615713I know he doesn't. Just keeping the pressure on since he wants to shit on someone who is at least trying to actually be part of the hobby.
>>92615723No amount of points cuts are going to stop it being unplayable on a lot of boards
>>92615723It could be 60 points and still be unusable
>>92615743>>92615751I just like the bug I hate that they made it so wide and awkward to move around terrain and the worst is that I don't think they'll remake it and Maleceptor any time soon
>>92615480the model is painted. the base is only there so it doesn't fall over. it's a toy soldier, not a diorama. gw only insists that you do stuff to the base so they can sell more paint.
>>92615795Finish your models properly and stop being a little bitch. Until then -10VP
>>92615453paint your models
>>92615806Speaking of finished models, Just need to wait for the northern english weather to stop being shit and varnish this cunt , but im done with him
>>92615821>That massive moldlineEuyughGood other than that bro
>>92615814Post yours.
>>92615821I have a demon prince as well and I thought I broke one of it's top horns on it's head until I saw this pic and realized it was just a part of the sculpt.Or you just broken the horn as well.
>>92615829I know I knowWhen I pick up more green stuff, I might quickly fill in the leg gap also but hey, it'll look good when the rest of the army is done
I like Farsight Enclaves. Are the Fusion Blades already back? Typed a cat emoji whilst typing the captcha. I'll leave it, see if it actually appears in the comment.
>>92615847DW anon, I had the same thought and thought I was going insane but no the horn is models to be broken
>>92615849I was only fucking with you, I don't see any big ones
>>92615829i cant even see it, i must be blind
question about mold lines, how do you guys deal with them when they go through a really detailed area, like spikes, scales, clothes, etc? looks like a massive pain in the arse
>>92615879Carefully
>>92615867
>>92615879Paint extra thick over them so they aren't noticeable
>>92615879Nobody here owns models dude.
>>92615850>Are the Fusion Blades already back?
>>92615896I actually have a display case full of air, loser.
These cute lil' guys
>>92615956You mean the little boys that Liam molests because he's a gay pedophilw?
>>92615093The recent happening almost made me quit the hobby. I'm just gonna play older editions with my friends now. The reason for this is that I hate women and minorities. That is all.
Nice.
>>92615956Do you guys think I can use my Deathwing Command as Deathwing Terminators? I would be loath to shelve them. They seem similar enough to Deathwing Knights.
>>92616046Based.
>>92615093I like using contrast paints and hate using anything else that requires thinning because I'm lazy.
>>92616046>Immediately concedes groundLol
>>92616046uh oh gatekeeper melty
>>92616046so this is the power of the aryan superman
>two very obviously discrete guns>1 shot, twin linkedThis annoys me more than it probably should. Just feels fucking wrong
>>92616047
>valhallafag STILL hasn’t posted his armykek
>>92614416>>92614416>>92614416
>>92616046Based>>9261610940k requires willing players to actually function as a system, a bunch of twitter people upvoting posts they like because they pirated a blacked library pdf cannot sustain the hobby because it inherently requires consent from the existing fanbase. If you just refuse to indulge them with your time, they get shunned out and GW has effectively killed their game (not that they'd care).Unlike comics and videogames, you really cannot play traditional games singleplayer, and unlike DnD it's not as simple as just downloading the starter book and larping as a sparkledragon with your xim/xir discord groomer. You need investment of several hundred bucks and you need people willing to play with your investment.
>>92616167and you haven't posted shit, clownboy
>>92614900With the points changes to key units it's kinda fluid right now. Running Vahl+Paragons, Castigators and Repentia for damage, bunch of action monkey for actions, and scaling back on the arcospam.
>>92616226Yeah they have been really hammering arcos on points. I'm a big fan of castigator for the light to medium infantry clear and vehicles. You running battle cannon or autocannons?
>>92616243I think there was an argument against arcos even before the nerfs, too much high OC 2+ save models that exist. One squad is the sweet spot now imo.Battlecannon Castigator for me. I like the autocannon on paper but in practice ap1 just isn't effective enough while s10 ap1 ignores cover is enough to threaten transports while chipping away at 2+saves in cover.
>>92616135Merely a fraction of my power, I assure you.
>>92616304Thematically I'm not a big fan of arcos and how they look.Yeah ignores cover is big, but that twin linked is tasty. I get the effective +1 ap though, pretty big. But rerolling hits and wounds...One time I got so lucky I killed a Leman Russ with it from full, that's a .001% dice roll.
>>92614103That's actually pretty dope, I'd consider buying a few to paint even if I never end up using them for games. Shame they'll probably never do anything like that again.
>>92616418I want hot battle nuns. I don't like most of the other stuff and really dislike how the nu-repentia were lazy prisoner ladies with potato sacks.
>>92616512>I want hot battle nuns.Yeah I hear ya. On tabletop I have hotties for Repentia.
>>92612593They have alternate schemes, like the Shadow Keepers and Solar Watch. There's also one that replaces the red with purple.
>>92613171Cute!->loliYIKES
>>92613368Airbrush is gay as fuck to use. Mine clogged all the time too even with a lot of thinnerI rather use speedpaints and contrast
>>92615168Pussey, uniornically
>>92613368I've base coated a landraider with dry brush dabbing because ret armor spray is ass. Worked fine. Airbrushing is for plane and tank model making or Knights players imo.
