Four feet and below edition>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>92606816>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Tools:warhammer-community.com/warscroll-builder/warhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/>Booru:https://ageofsigmart.booru.org/index.php>Thread question:What features are left for WarCom to cover about the next edition, crunchwise?
>>92622454Whatever they've done to endless spells, before spurging out about the refreshes. I hope they don't butcher them, that Flaming Head has a reason to exist again.
>>92622454>What features are left for WarCom to cover about the next edition, crunchwise?the army by army "whats new with X faction in the new edition" featurettes there's enough armies in teh game that you could do 1 a day for an entire month
I'm hoping weapon teams return.I am also chomping at the bit if I want to pick up the last rat vanguard box just in case the new grey seer sculpt is ass. And also more storm fiends and another wlc.
>>92622676Those are probably going to start once the Starter has been revealed
>>92622757it would be funny if the weapons teams end up being solo rats JUST to make sure people dont use them in TOWultimately i dont care either way i just want decent models and support for a skaven staple
>>92622845I'm kind of expecting them to do that too. Honestly I don't think I'd mind too much. Provided they maintain their current base size.I'm also hoping their tome doesn't loose it's variety. And also for scrolls to not be shit. It's a wave 1 release though so it's a large hurdle.
So….do all the different factions of Chaos God-worshippers all consider their side the inevitable winner / greatest? Like how the Nurgle-followers are super fatalistic about everything because obviously of course everything will end up with Nurgle. Do the other Chaos factions look at it the same way, just with a different emotional impetus?
>>92623049No to both, but for different reasons.Considering them the eventual winner implies they know, or believe, the gods are in active competition, which some might not. As for considering their god the best, I imagine most do, but not all.
>>92622845Alternatively they'll be huge with multiple rats.
>no faction battle tactics And the fluff just keeps on getting cut. Thanks touneyfags
>>92623265Have you thought that this might come with the actual tomes and not the index?
>>92623286thinking? impossible
>>92623265Faction tactics suck ass. It’s not fun playing an army where your easiest tactic amounts to jumping through several dozen flaming hoops and your opponents have ones that basically amount to “if you are breathing, complete this tactic”Though this is just a microcosm of tactics in general sucking ass.
>>92623265Yeah, it was so fluffy to have two units of Necropolis Stalkers just standing in the middle of nowhere without engaging the enemy.
>>92623265the faction battle tactics were pretty miserable, and we used to have no battle tactics prior to 3rd, so honestly good riddance
Which squad of electricuted bums would win in a fight?
>>92623808The sigmarites have nicer models so I'll let them win.
>GutbusterUmm what?
>>92623827>this one guy hunted every Cold One to extinction
>>92623827Just roll with it.
>>92623265instead of battle tactics, we should have gotten multible grand strategies. that would be much more flavorful.
>>92623265No no see SHRIMPLIFICATION is GOOD okay?
>>92623265Every time I see flufffags in aos bitch about something it's something that sucked ass and wasn't even very fluffy in the first place
>battle tactics are still a thingoh boy i cant wait to jerk off in corners for bing bing wahoo victory points
>>92623965See anon, expecting people to use tactics in the actual game and beat their opponent is too much. We need non-diegetic battle tactics that give you points for doing things that may not actually impact the battle at all!
>>92623848that's not retarded looking enough to be a cold one
>>92623982In fact we need to get points for doing things that may actually just be bad ideas except for the fact that if you do them you score points.
>>92623265> no faction BTGood because it was a game of haves/haves nots which was bullshit unless so writer perked off your faction> less fluffBeen that why since 2nd. It sucks but it's not tourneyfags it's GW being cheap and lazy
>>92624035There are some things I don't like about the rules (seasonal ones for example) where I can admit its not inherently bad, I just don't like it.For a serious strategy game these arbitrary point gains are just baffling. I don't understand how anybody could like them.
>>92623945This this this.It's mostly people having PTSD from 40k 10th about not having their space-marine label on their special ability it seems. But comparing that to AoS just seems like you're looking for something to be mad about.
>>92624035>>92623982Why can't the mandatory 'extra points for doing thing beyond stand in circles' just be simple shit like 'kill something' or 'control more table quarters.' Things that reflect doing well in an actual battle.Instead it's random shit.Why is it 4 fucking points a BT instead of 2.Why isn't it just AA instead of either IGOYOU, or lmao double turn you lose
>>92623848I just bought that head on eBay.Don't give a fuck about the fire ghosts or fucking elves but that head is ace.
its honestly so hilarious to me how GW has managed to gaslight people into thinking double turn is a GOOD thing
>>92623265Yeah nothing more fluffy than winning the game because I healed 3 wounds from a rat ogre
>>92624138sameI now have 16 statues of slann heads including the big one
>>92623808I think the frankenig top right hard carries.
I really like playing super speedy melee averse Tzeentch magic, but the model range is kind 50/50 to me. What armies could do similar things in playstyle?
>>92623808The Exiled Dead are so poorly executed and uninspired that they feel like a spite project
>>92623945It's just 40k players that have been buckbroken by GW because 10th edition is complete shit, so they come here and try to make the place miserable the same way because misery loves company
>>92624412Do you want a speedy army or a magic one? Are you talking about the tzeentch model range?Im lost to what you are saying here
>>92624445They feel like a last effort stroke of genious ment to save a failed project. Remove the coil assets and change Necromancers staff end. You now have the most boring band of all time.All the stuff saving it thematically is last minute additions. >It was a regular zombie warband.>Was boring as shit and about to be scraped>Someone proposed to add coils and we got cool Arcwalker lore out of it>zombie warband remade for current season with Beauty and the Beast leaders
>>92624445Techno zombies is such a cool concept but they really shat the bed hard on them. Even the leader looks really boring.
>>92624514Sounds like he wants speedy magic but not Tzeentch
So…what’s the relationship between Nurgle and the Horned Rat?
>>92624445Frankenstein zombies is a really cool idea but yeah these are fucking trash
>>92624589they're rivals fighting for Alarielle's love
>>92624589They play poker together on the weekends
>>92624412The options for magic armies, especially offensive magic are really sparse. You have Tzeentch, Lumineth, Seraphon, Nagash and that's mostly it.
>>92624589bear and twink
>>92624589did they even say what the Horned Rat is a god of?? I don't remmenber
>>92624720The Great Horned Rat is a god of rats.
>>92624720Horns
>>92624720Ruin>>92624589Basically, Nurgle and THR are Bugs and Daffy in New Looney Tunes
>>92624611>*Sad Tyrion noises*
>>92624720"Ruin", as vague as that is
>>92623965>>92623982
Ship my black guard anon I want to at least paint them before their squatting
>>92624514Speedy and magic if possible.
>>92624720So while all the other chaos gods want to destroy the realms, they do it for their own reasons. Khorne wants blood and skulls, Tzeentch wants change, Nurgle wants rot and decay and his grandchildren, and Slaanesh wants sensation and excess. While the GHR is unique for wanting ruin for its own sake. To tear down everything and have nothing replace it. He's kind of like beastmen (RIP) in that regard.
I'm gonna buy a Shrine Luminor and the LRL Endless Spells this weekend
>>92624853No, I don't think I will.
>>92624969Trying to decide if I want to shorten the spear on my test model or not. Shit is ridiculous.
>>92624968Maybe it's different in AoS now but I remember it was frowned upon to create a city from scratch it was very specific that he wanted the skaven to live in the ruins of the other races and destroy/desecrate what they had done
>>92625006Not a terrible idea but can easily be fucked up if you're not careful
>>92625030I’ve been trying to weigh the pros and cons of it.Pros: Easier storage, looks decent, less ridiculous. Easier pile-ins, less risky to the model while getting them in base contact. Cons:Introduces a new weak point to the overall structure of the spear, could be wonky with a non-level contact point, more work. Could be called modelling for advantage.
>>92625116>Introduces a new weak point to the overall structure of the spearnot if you use plastic glue
>>92625154>not if you use plastic glueNTA but I've never seen a plastic cement bond stronger than super glue, yeah it's seamless but (at least for Tamiya Extra Thin) it tears apart really easily.
>>92625116I think I saw someone just fully replace the shaft with metal rods and drilled holes at the connect point for the point/blade whatever you call it but I can't find the photo on this phone
If I was ever going to get any of those lumineth pikemen I think I'd want to replace the plastic spears with metal ones, otherwise it'd be a case of welcome to snap city
>>92625154>>92625203It would likely be plastic glue used. Superglue always has the overflow at the contact point that makes a visible bump.
>>92625203Extra thin won't give you a crazy strong bond but if you use this I assure you that shit isn't going anywhere. I've made errors with it in the past that were a nightmare to correct
>>92625203Plastic glue literally breaks down the two pieces of whatever you're sticking together into a single hunk of plastic. If it's tearing apart at all something has gone wrong somewhere.
>>92625232Dunno what to tell you, I've put together hundreds of models with TET and the ball joints/flat binds are fragile as fuck>>92625231Could be that extra thin doesn't bond beyond the very surface of the plastic, extra thin was recommended to me years ago and I just kept using it since it was good enough for 60-90% of bonds depending on the specific model.
>>92624589>So…what’s the relationship between Nurgle and the Horned Rat?The horned rat started as a demon of nurgle but eventually grew into its own thing, which is why his domain stretches (or started?) in gnawhame in his garden The horned rat is a scavenger god, it got its power by eating the scraps leftovers by everyone else and by stealing his way up, the use of plagues is one such tool taken from nurgle, but while nurgle nurtures poxes out of a twisted ideal of how the cycle of life should go, the rat uses them as merely a weapon, if it was up to the rat there would be no cycle, just ruin, so they may see themselves in methods but not in goalsclan pestilens either began its life by making a deal with nurgle, getting helped by a verminlord/horned rat to steal nurgle's secrets, by making a deal with a stuck and borderline rebellious demon of nurgle, or by finding and worshipping one of the schizophrenic aspects of the rattake your pick
>>92625271Extra thin is good for spindly models but anything that I have room for error I'll use the regular. The plastic slann broke me mentally trying to get his throne together with the thin which is what made me try the regular
Old pic but the only progress past this was for the slann himself, what color should I do for the skink that would compliment the throne/slann?
>>92625406huanchi blessed dude, very dark if not black skin with a few orange tiger/leopard patterns on the head, crest and shoulders to tie him with the slann
This weirded me out. I just found out that an unpublished Eight Lamentations novel has been registered in German since 2020. I mean it's got pages in online bookstores with a synopsis and a placeholder cover, and it's registered with ISBN numbers. So what that tells me is that by the time Reynolds decided to part ways with BL, the publishing house had already been in talks with him for another Eight Lamentations title and was far enough along that there was a plot outline. And either they went and advertised that without technically having commissioned him for the work, or they did put in a commission and got at least some drafts out of it before the author parted ways, and then they've been sitting on that for the past four years. In any case we'll never get to see what could have been. I thought I was going crazy stumbling on this out of nowhere.
>>92625484You could ask Reynolds in private what said plot was about, you know?
>>92625484>Die, Treibende Stadt
>>92625484Quick rundown on that series? It seemed foundational at the time, with novellas, audio dramas and such exploring the AoS take on the WHFB rejects but so much for that now ig because they pivoted in an entirely different direction
>>92625714Basic premise is that eight of Khorne's superweapons have been displaced all over the realms and Grungni sends people to go look for them.
>>92622757The leak has stated that ALL weapon team will be updated so don't fretAlso rumor mill coming that Gitmob is coming
>>92625875>Gitmob is comingFUCK OFF AND GET SPIDERFANG HERE
>>92625875>Also rumor mill coming that Gitmob is comingNo, there is no such rumour
>>92625481Seraphon/Sylvaneth team-up when?
>>92625895the aracnarok is leaving aos for tow and spider riders are getting appropriated by moonclan
>>92625875Even the red headed stepchild that is the doom-flayer?
>>92625968
>>92625943They wouldn't get rid of the arachnarok but keep riders, especially when the riders are older and shittier
>>92625968unlikely
>>92626020I didn't say they're keeping the models, I'm saying they're making moonclan spider riders
>>92625875>gitmobFuck that, do something interesting we don't need boring ass regular goblins leave that shit in old world. It's bad enough we have wolf riders for no reason in gsg
>>92626037it's pretty weird that nobody in the history of warhammer fantasy ever associated wolves with the moon
>>92626009certainly a lot of interesting shit in that.
>>92626060That pissed me off the most with that reveal, like if you're gonna go with the "le howling at the moon XD" then make them look like fucking moonclan. What was the point of making the regular wolf rider unit with zero visual similarities to the rest of the army, spiderfang has the excuse of being fantasy leftovers the snarlfangs are brand new. They're not even bad looking models they just don't belong in gitz
>>92626009This guy was such a fag
>>92626095I personally believe they were meant for kruleboyz, they use some similar jagged designs for weapons, and their faces are the same as kruleboyz grots on krawla and companions
>>92623808>>92624445>>92624536>>92624562>>92624595Sons of Valmorn got axed and this shit still existsCunts
>>92625968idk why you're asking about the doom-flayer when the actual question is about the poisoned wind mortar
>>92626129>Sons of Valmorn got axedNo they didn't. What the fuck are you making up?
>>92626120I think they were an early old world unit that got repurposed when they decided to just rerelease the old garbage
>>92626148Ok champ, show me where they're selling them.
>>92626148They actually aren't on the website for whatever reason, must be getting reboxed without their cards
>>92626120I think they're a chorfs unit. Besides hobgrot slittaz, they are the only greenskins in the entire game who have gear that doesn't look like cobbled-together shit.
>>92626204The VS box warbands always take a while to be reboxed separatly. They split Nethermaze only recently. You're eiher a newfag or a moron is you haven't noticed how this works
>>92626148He's right, nowadays dual boxes for underworlds are a limited run product until god knows how long. The last took over a year but we've passed that for Gnarlwood, so we might see them for AoS when the new season for UW starts but GW have stated they're getting legends now so. UW was always a limited product and returning oop warbands was recent and similarly limited with rivals of mirrored city.
>>92626265Their looks nothing like the slittaz and they aren't hobgrots
>>92626267I actually don't play Sigmar, I've just noticed the models are really good and am collecting undead for D&D and I'm fucking pissed the good shit isn't available right now. Here's a deathrattle skelly.
>>92626299Their gear*
>>92626299I didn't say that their gear looks like the slittaz'. I said that both of them have gear that isn't made from random scraps of clothing and metal.
>October 2022 Haha they're just reboxing them... Any day now... GW wouldn't just squat things like this
>>92626359>I'm gonna ignore the thread just so I can doompost
>>92626376>>92626359How fucking long does it take to shuffle around a little cardboard? They already have the STLs.
>>92626403Every time someone asks for it I'm delaying it another week.You'll get your skeletons sometime around 2084 at this point
>>92626403It's a sidegame and they've been getting 4th edition and old world ready to release
>>92626403Warbands get white boxed so there's no reason for it The real reason is that it's a sub-department getting evaluated on it's own now, hence they won't be getting AoS rules in 4th
>>92626354They're still not hobgrots>they're just painted greenHobgrots have noticably different faces than grots
>>92626494Hobgrots are also shitty in comparison to the rest of the orruks range. They're some real B team shit.
Bring back GA armies I don't care if waacfags abuse them or if they just suck in general
>>92626529They look fine it's just weird that they're in KB when they don't even have an HQ or any visual similarities to the rest of the army
>>92626494I duno if it's the leg armour but they look propper stubby, I don't like that
How dangerous is summoning a Chaos demon? Obviously it’s dangerous, but to what degree? Like, make sure you satisfy all the ritual requirements and don’t a single mistake — or, so dangerous that even a highly accomplished sorcerer would do so only out of great need? Is it the sort of thing that’s POSSIBLE to get away with but there’s a million ways to fuck yourself trying so just Don’t if you can at all help it? And if you were going to call on a warp entity, which would be the least likely to result in a fate worse than death?
>>92626544Nah, kruleboyz are pretty decent sculpts and these aren't
>>92626529Way better than gutrippas
>>92626529the main issue with hobgrots is that theyre naked, the lack of clothes is really not good on them, hell the first KB underworlds warband has a hobgrot that has more clothes and a hat more reminiscent of old hobgoblins and it looks alot better than the naked guys with metal strapped to them
>>92626359Nigger we went thoguh this multiple times, stfu already and learn from experiance
>>92626563>stubbysame with kruletards
>>92626599>>92626617The duality of man
Got 4940pts ready for a big game tomorrow
>>92626644Gutrippas looking like shit is the main reason I would never make a full KB army I just have heroes. I'd get a bunch of slittaz but I'm not convinced they'll stay in KB with how schizophrenic GW has been lately
>>92624720According to cubicle7, the GHR has various split personalities, all coexisting (aggressively) simultaneously, so you can pick and choose what he's the God from and you'll be always right (and by extension, always wrong).He's basically a CYOA God with a rat motif. Which translates as GW admitting they don't have an inkling of an idea, and care even less.The official answer, is literally that there is no official answer. Take it as you will.
>>92626655Gutrippaz are good, slittaz are shit but fortunately you don't need those anyway
>>92626598I could be wrong or forgetting some examples, but in aos I think it's dangerous to the point of guaranteed corruption by chaos and/or a messy death unless you're already a powerful follower of the god in question and already corrupted/enslaved by them.
>>92626770Is chaos corruption unfixable, I vauguely recall some stormcast being ex chaos guys. Is it a case of sigmar getting them before the tentacles sprout?
>>92626598From all accounts across all of GWs games and settings it is extremely dangerous, and often times the cults that fail to summon anything at all are the luckier ones. Only sorcerers with a very good understanding of the nature of daemons and Chaos has a chance to really control them, and even then they do their rituals with every failsafe, ward, and emergency exit ready they can figure out. It gets moderately easier if you can figure a daemon's true name, but even then the understanding is the daemon is patiently (or impatiently) biding its time until the summoner fucks up and they can kill or enslave them.
>>92626798Ghal moraz can redeem you but only if there's any good still in you somewhere pretty much, so more someone that tragically fell to chaos instead of embracing it full on
>>92623265>>92623945>fluff This is what spergs call lore, right?
>>92626900
>>92626434Darkoath Savagers won’t be squatted…will they?
>>92626672This is actually pretty great even if it's accidental because the rats always backstabbing each other cont just works
>>92626922No it is not. It is creatively bankrupt. Demeaning even. It is abominable.
>>92626917Nope, they are needed to pad out Darkoath armies.
Would you guys play AoS with a Middle earth ruleset that just used existing models in the catalogue? I was thinking of doing it as a project translating a couple of armies over just to see how it would pan out. I feel like AoS miniatures would work nicely at a company level skirmish game with MESBG's individual model system mechanics while fitting in a niche between something like warcry and full scale games of AoS' with large units. Maybe even make it a D8 system just for maximum memes.
>>92626958you dont have to praise the rat even more.
would anyone have the OBR battletome pdf
>>92626359>best SBL warband>has nothing to do with vampires in game and loreNagash, give us a wight mortarch, you thrice dead Nehekharan cunt
>>92626971what youre describing is basically what vanguard/ spearhead should beTheres definitely a niche for it
>>92626977Nothing to praise, truly, nothing.There is no aspect, not even a bloody dirge.
>>92626494I didn't say that they're hobgrots either, genius.
>>92626992Yeah for sure I think most people's gut feeling on vanguard/spearhead is that its just gonna be combat patrol 2 unfortunately.On top of this I think that MESBG's excellent rules is wasted somewhat on that out of date and limited miniature range. 3d printing helps a lot with the lord of the rings sculpts and the setting is fantastic of course but I feel its limited by that it has to adhere to the films and books. Due to the massive variety of weapons/units/customisation in AoS' and WHFB's miniature range even the limited Beasts of Chaos miniatures range that just got squatted could have multiple different lists/themes/alliances/units.
>>92627088Hobgrots are the only greenskins that work with chorfs, genius
>>92626981Skeleton Warriors DAM DAMA DAM Skeleton warriors!https://files.catbox <dot>moe/r34plr <dot> pdf
>>92623049Chaos is badly written.
>>92626981Check the last thread it was shared there
>>92627312thank u fren
>>926273021. Where is that stated?2. Where else would the snarlfang riders get their non-shitty, non-cobbled together equipment? That barding wasn't made for a horse.
>>92627346youre not wrong, but chaos is written much worse in 40k.hell even 30k chaos sucks since it would have been better as a morally grey civil war rather than just "good guys vs bad guys space marine"
Can I get some pointers on this army idk wtf im doingMaggotkin of NurgleLord of blights - general (130)glottkin (580)lord of plagues (110)Spoilpox scrivener (110)10 plaguebearers (120)10 plaguebearers (120)5 Blightkings (230)5 blightkings (230)2 pusgoyle blightlords (240)1860/200should I combine the blightkings or take a lord of afflictions and 1 pusgoyle?
Fuck can't the new edition just come out already so I can pick a faction?
>>92627799with the glottkin the army is basically easy mode, just a disgustingly powerful warscroll. keep the bks separate, they do best run into squishy units and 10 is sort of overkill most of the time, your opponent has to put a lot of damage through to delete them as is. lord of afflictions is a useful tool for deepstrike and turning off commands in your opponents backline, but he isn't fighty at all so it all depends what you want to do. the two foot heroes does feel a little overkill, they're slow as fuck and kind of expensive for buffing two/one unit of bks
These were surprisingly unpleasant to build.Will prime them and the Riverblades in the morning.
>>92627861you need to see the rules to pick? this may not be the hobby for you, as your rules will probably change again before you get an army painted
so what is left for warcry?Order: Idoneth DeepkinKharadron OverlordsPossibly another Cities of Sigmar warbandand problably another Stormcast Eternals warbandChaos:Skaven (possibly multiple)SlaaneshDeath:a non vampire focussed Soulblight Gravelords warbandDestruction:IronjawsSons of BehematNon Gorger Ogor Mawtribes warbandpossibly multiple Gloomspite Gitz warbands
>>92627861just do what I did, narrow down to a couple armies you like the look/theme of, then just start collecting some deals. got over half my army with a couple of cheap boxes of FEC from before their refresh
>>92627999I can speed paint plenty well. If I buckle down I can generally get 1k done a week.
>>92627861step 1 is to check out armies and see which ones you like the look of. Protip: Love the battleline unit. IE basic foot troops, because you're going to be building and painting a lot. Step 2, yeah wait for 4th. The biggest meme here is that how your army plays doesn't matter, but it will. Don't be afraid to try out armies you like mechanically but might not be fond of visually.
>>92627999ntg but ally/coalition rules are a pretty reasonable thing to base an army choice around
>>92627929Thanks that really helps a lotwhich of the foot mortal heroes would be better? The lord of blights seems slightly m better cause he can give the blight kings a ranged attack for hordes but you make it sound like they don’t need the help. I’ve been told all the mortal units are good. The lord of plagues seems strong too but I don’t know how these war scrolls actually play out on the tabletop. I might end up running 3 units of 5 BK once I get far in, would it be worth it to run both BK foot heroes then since I have 15 BKs? If I cut one of the foot heroes would it be worth it to add a rotbringer? I don’t know how many spells/unbinds are recommended minimum. I know glottkin brings 2 by himself.
>>92627969How so?Also, I'm like RIGHT THERE on pulling the trigger with LRL, but I hate that I get overly hung up on shit. If it's not choosing a color scheme, it's worrying about the damn spears.
>>92628171Mostly the arms were a bit fiddly, especially the ones with the one-handed weapons, and the capes were a little odd in turn.Generally speaking most LRL models seem to go together well enough in my experience, but I haven't touched the Hurakan stuff. Lord Regent went together a little weird eith the feet but no other complaints.
>>92623572It's not that faction battle tactics are an issue, more that they're non interactive. They should all be something that you need to do and they have the ability to stop
Posted a bit back, attempting chaos Godzilla. Considering it's my first try, I think the prototype bloodletter is going pretty well. Nuln oil + Celestra Grey gave it a nice rocky effect, but I think it's a little too bright now. Any suggestions? I was thinking a thin coat of Eshin Grey
>>92628370there are ones that are interactive.
>>92627969possible to build them without the cow on their head?
>>92628035thought Warcry is getting discontinued
>>92628943let no game fags complain. i agree that tactics aren't always fun, especially the few positioning ones we get per pack; but the rest usually offer something to fight over with your opponent which adds to the battle such as redeploying to prevent a charge, keeping CP for aod, immune battleshock, getting a dispell, and so on and so on. battle tactics are interesting for the game as long as you can fight over them
>>92629002Why would you think that
>>92629002Retard
>>92629040>>92629042bearded man on youtube said so
>>92629048Bearded faggot is a retarded clickbaiter.
>>92629087I see. So there is still a chance I will be able to use the OBR Warcry unit in 4e?
>>92629102i believe only the many stds warbands are dropped except for darkoaths
>>92622454Crazy how the weapons teams end up being solo rats JUST to make sure people dont use them in TOWultimately i dont care either way i just want decent models and support for a skaven staple
>>92629179How would that even stop people from using them in TOW?
>>92629179Unless you can't position the new model on 25mm x 50mm base, I can't see why it would be impossible
>>92629048Grown your own head
>>92628035>Sons of BehematNot exactly. You can technically bring one giant and that will cost you roughly the half of your army. Mega giants aren't legal.
>>92625406Eastern collared lizard or you're a coward
>>92629002Underworlds might but afaik Warcry has good participation all around
>>92627861Rules change you fag, pick the models you like cause that's the only thing that will remain consistent provided your shit doesn't get squatted, and we already know what's getting squatted this year
>>92628922This is actually upsetting how awful this looks. You want to steal the godzilla colour scheme than sure, but noone is going to be able to tell that the reason your models look like they're made of cat litter is because you like godzilla, unless you tell them. Any scheme that requires explaining as to what it's representing is a bad scheme
>>92629542This.I have 3 armies. 2 have been weak but I still love em, the other has been strong for ages but just don't have the same passion
>>92629542rules used to be based on the models so it's always a good bet that if you like the look of something you'll like how it plays toothings are a little more abstract and meta now but it mostly stands
>>92629658Generally. But Khorne playing like a weird tech/board control army is off
Anybody got spoilers for the new Cado novel?
>>92629858yehe gay
Anyone got the epub/pdf of plague garden or Nagash the undying king?
>>92629887
>>92629933cheers
>>92629887>>92629933
>>92629872Not that Cado
>>92629933Only the faithful.
>>92629687You try making sense of a bunch of roided up idiots who just want to throw hands. Only reason they would have for winning a battle would be putting your retards in the right spot and letting them smash shit
>>92629048The bearded man knows just as much as we do given he doesn't work for the company. Only info that is ever concrete comes from the company, everyone else is blowing smoke up your asshole
>>92629966Considering every single Warhamer YouTuber is bearded, which bearded man are we talking about?
>>92629982The one who is a bit overweight
>>92629989
>>92629989That actually narrows it down a fair bit, most are obese, a little overweight makes it a small list
any decent recent skaven related podcasts or videos to listen to? got 40 plague monks and 6 storm fiends to magnitize and slap together today.
>>92627861I think it's nice to choose the army based on aesthetics. I haven't decided on my factions, but it looks like the vanguard boxes are getting heavily discounted here and will probably be replaced by the spearheads? So I got two boxes of maggotkin and two boxes of sylvaneth. Total $350 for what I guess will be two 1000 pts armies. I am thinking about buying another vanguard box (the blimp dwarves), but probably will first try to build the models I have and maybe save money on one of the big models (Belthanos? Alarielle? Glottkin? no idea yet).
>>92626971The LotR rules are some of GW's best. Fuck yes.
>>92630046>>92630014Also, he's wearing glasses
alright i think im gonna do my saurus like this. what colors would work for this? i dont have anything close to that ochre-green on the body. hte head color i could probably mix easy enough
>>92630163That iguana's projecting an impressive aura of truly not giving a hoot.
The difficulty I'm having with Seraphon is coming up with complementary colors for the 3 main types.I've had a couple nice schemes in mind for saurus but then feel forced into having the big dinos a certain color that I don't like etc.It may not be very original but I'm leaning toward the standard scheme for this reason, it's just a really good combination of colors.
>>92630242>but then feel forced into having the big dinos a certain color that I don't like etc.most dinosaurs are big enough and have enough parts that you definitely shouldn't think about making them in only one colour, you can and should have patterns on them and that gives you plenty of leeway to make something that contrasts with the rider even if it's not exactly the most direct complementary color
I lowkey just play around with http://colormind.io/until I find a scheme I like, unless I'm lifting it from art instead I really wish Mannfred had a better model, he's so suave and charming in end times/realm gates war lit but the model lean away from elegance into chunky heroic scale monster retard. Tempted to cannibalise the crimson court and a bloodknight+vampire lord to make a better version
>>92624720According to his own inner monologue in Malign Portents he is the god of Vermin, Pestilence and Endless, Starving Wastelands.
>>92630134Well I don't know, the only ones with glasses I know are obese
>>92630324I think this old Blanche painting shows a different visual direction for his design. In the 8e core book it's presented as a portrait of Mannfred. Parts of it are recognizable in his design, like the stave (though it's more ornate than the glaive on his model) and the curved protrusions on his back. But you see he's wearing armored sleeves, the mantle is entirely made of fur and the protrusions curve more inward so his figure appears to be framed against a great beast, and he appears to be wearing a chainmail coif that would have given off a more archaic impression when juxtaposed against the plumed hats and plate helmets of the Empire.I think this is a design that could have worked really well for the character. They probably would never redesign him to look like this now, but I think it would be smart of them to do so.
>>92629982>which bearded man are we talking about?All of them. None of them have any super secret connections to gw internals because if they did they would be receiving c&d's from GW any time they made a schizo theory video
>>92630121Why can't you just listen to music you enjoy, do you really need to listen to a bunch of losers talk about thing just because you're doing something tangentially related? Surely you aren't that autistic
>>92630163If you can't look at the source image and make up your own mind on what colours you need, then you definitely won't be able to apply them properly.
>>92630446>John blanche scribblesBlanche always was a hack and always will be
>>92630514Weak bait.
>>92630531Post more blancheshit scribbles, that'll show me
>>92630514>Warhammer fan >hates blanche lol lmao even
>>92630489Cunt
>>92629542There are 4.5 factions I like the look of. I'm gonna pick whichever one seems least cucked in the index.
>>92629933>>92629940NTA - but thankyou Anon
>>92629940I remember this. I thought it was amusing that it had somehow eluded Neferata that her #1 rival had built an underground bunker complex the size of a planetoid.
should i glue him to the square base then stick the square base on the round base or just stick him on the round base? I don't play ToW or WHFB and never plan to
>>92630710Round base.
>>92630710Clip off the edges so it the square sits flat, if you care to keep the diorama
>>92630710Cut through corners and cut off the bottom walls, leaving only the top he's standing on
>>92626009damn thats a lot of info
>>92630710No, no , no , no. You clip the square parts off and stick that to a round and terrain paint like Astro granite or green stuff the edges out and hide the seems.
>>92630710>should i glue him to the square base then stick the square base on the round base or just stick him on the round base? I don't play ToW or WHFB and never plan toYou should abandon AOS for either ToW of WHFB
>>92630622The index will change till you finish painting your army.
>>92630548I prefer real artists like Karl kopinski who have an understanding of anatomy, framing, perspective, and movement
>>92630905Why would anyone chose to play a game that died because noone played it or bought anything for it
>>92630984Mate, can you even guess how many designs were derived from his work?
>>92630905>The of World of War Hammer Fantasy Battles
>>92629179Why did you word this as if you know it's happening
I hope the clawlord gets a TOW level buff up in 4th.
bored, who wants to see some notes for an AOS action RPG/hero shooter
>>92631052skavenfags are schizophrenics
>>92630996drawing random scribbles leaves a lot of room for the designers to do what they want
>>92631062I hope he keeps the panic mechanic in some form
>>92623827Damn, I really want to start a Mawtribes army, but if this is the direction any future new models go in, maybe I shouldn't.
>>92631154There's not much difference in design but the scale is awkward
Just spent two hours painting a putrid blightking. It could have been better.
>>92631137Hero shooters are kinda cringe i suppose, but a Moba would work really well in AoS i think
>>92631146they made it a point to show it in play in the cinematic so I'd assume it's still there
>>92631195I don't like MOBAs because I associate them with League of Legends, if I'm being honest
>>92631154Kind of hope they fold the two together
>>92630615Prove me wrong paintlet
>>92631202League of Legends is just bad in every aspect of its being, from visual and sound design, to gameplay, among all Moba games that came out over the years its probably the worst one
>>92631241Ditto for Smite and DOTA, then
>>92631202Also, Warcraft 3 type strategy game, where you have a powerful hero that levels up and collects acrtifacts by fighting neutral creeps would be awesome in AoS setting
>>92631247Cant really agree with dota, i absolutely love its art, the way dota2 looked in early years, and valve's sound design always makes me cum
>>92626649damn anon thats a lot of work gj
>>92626009I wonder what the odds are of a new named character that's not in a supplemental product.
>>92631195>mobasNigga really out here acting like he knows what's cringe>>92631137>hero shootersI didn't know 10 year olds cared about fantasy IPs
>>92631281<3>>92631293I mean, Paladins
>>92631137yikes
>>92628111sorcerors are good, but honestly with glottkin in your list if you are cutting foot heroes I would just buy more bodies, you are going to have a hell of a time with any objectives the glottkin are not currently fucking during the game
>>92628922>>92629554I think it looks cool anon, and yeah a little shading will probably bring down the brightness a bit
>>92625895Justice for forest-retards!There are so many spider-types they haven't used yet.
>>92631384aww
>>92625714I only read Spear of Shadows, but that was a really poor effort. Sooo many characters, and none of them you gave a shit about, the main guy was a piece of wet cardboard. Furthermore, the world was so batshit crazy that the entire story was monumentally ungrounded.There is a khorne guy doing the conan-speech though, so that's probably the best part.
>>92631384I think GW's plastic casting has gotten to a point where a furred spider might look really cool.
>>92631412GW's plastic has reached the point where their fur is fucking flat, mate
>>92631388>I can has squirming captive?
>>92622454Soon
Is this good? Is it fun? And does anyone have an epub/pdf of the sequel?
>>92631224I can paint well enough, I was just looking for a color recommendation. quit being an ass
>>92631588why does he look like a very ugly horse girl?
>>92631761It's a common trait in Neferata's brood.
>>92631742Unsolicited advice: You can use brush-on varnish to easily fill gaps like those on the feet before painting them
I'm building these blightkings but the standard bearer torso looks cooler as a standard warrior, so i cut the spear shaft to fit the standard head. Does it look better facing forward or back? Should I tear off the big nurgle standard and try using a shield as a standard instead?>>92631742don't even reply to these retards. they're unhappy and want to have meaningless arguments on an anonymous incel forum. they just want attention
Thinking about maybe picking up some OBR second hand. Anyone know what a decent 2000 points to start with for a monster mash list would be?
>>92631742If you can paint, and aren't relying on painting guides due to colour blindness then you shouldn't need or want our feedback for what colour to use. You should know what colour to use. If that gorger is actually yours it is nice, use the skills you applied there to make a decision for yourself like a grownup
>>92631742did you grind that flock on the base or did you buy it that fine? if so what is the product? the scaling is just right and im in the market for some but most of the train stuff is a little big/thick
>>92631795make the standard way taller
>>92631822there's a new edition changing everything and invalidating all battletomes coming in a few months
>>92631795I think it looks cool facing backwards as on the left 2 images, the back of that standard top has some nice detailing fortunately. such a fun kit
are we really at the point where you cant ask for a simple paint recommendation without 20 snobs looking down their nose at you? jfc>>92631784i gambled and lost on the seams. i thought they would look like muscle creases after they were painted, they didnt look that bad in plastic or primer. i may go back and fix them, i have gap filling putty. which varnish are you talking about though? i use AK ultra matte and its water thin, i dont know that that would be enough to fill a gap
>>92631945I never tried AK, but I know that Vallejo matt varnish works
>>92631784My personal exrtra deranged advice:Brush on photopolymer resin and cure it with a UV flashlight to fill gaps.
>>92631795sculpt a maggoty thing on his back that holds it tbhon
lads is there any point buying more units for my army before 4th edition of waiting till release and changes to the game etc? Hmmmmm
>>92632100Do you want to paint more stuff?
>>92632100If you’d be disappointed by unexpectedly bad unit rules then sure wait, if you just like the minis then go for it
>>92632179>paint more always man >>92632180fair point. rules might change but I got my eye on some units I definitely want. fuck it. life is for living x
>>92630925Anon, rules don't change that much over an edition. Custodes index rules were boring as fuck in tenth, and while they still look unfun with the codex. It is less about them being meta, and more about having fun and fluffy rules. Tzeentch has really cool rules right now, but if they don't play in a way I like next edition, I'll pick a different army. Similarly, ogres don't seem fun to play right now but if their rules are cool next edition, I might pick them. Should get a few years of flavorful rules.
>>92632100muh rules they ain't changing much, liberators and Kroxigor are basically the same so it doesn't really matter
>>92632293And the warlock engineer is so different it's that in name only while we also know the near entirety of death is going to need to be reworked with some of the fundamental rule changes we already have like rally, command points, and mortals.
>>92631154the gorgers, tyrant, bloodbowl team, and the underworlds hunter are all classic ogres.this new hunter just looks a little odd. very small headed, and his back isn't very broad.
>>92632453the tyrant also has a small head, it's just got a helmet
>>92632453Singular characters like that are often made by trainees, it might have been a little expiriment on what kind of changes can be made for ogres, but as we see with gorgers, they probably decided to not go with it
>>92631290Did lizards get any new named characters in their refresh last year? If not I wouldn't get my hopes up.
>>92632403he can't buy a warlock engineer so that's not an issue.
>>92631945Paint recommendations are for beginners, you are not a beginner. You can ride your bike already, you don't need our training wheels anymore
Army Faction: Stormcast Eternals - Army Type: Scions of the Storm - Army Subfaction: Hammers of SigmarLEADER1 x Knight-Incantor (120) - General - Command Traits: Master of Magic - Artefacts: Mirrorshield - Spells: Celestial BladesBATTLELINE5 x Vindictors (110)5 x Vindictors (110)5 x Vindictors (110)2 x Dracothian Guard Fulminators (240)OTHER3 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (230) - Raptor-Prime3 x Aetherwings (70
>>92632403Engineer is>shooty weak hero that does long range damage Will be >shooty weak hero that does long range damage
>>92633065>Engineer is>>shooty weak hero that does long range damage
Anyone got a Dawnbringers 5 scan yet? if so, give link please.Thank you :)
>>92631588It's very 'Meh' if you ask me. Not bad, not particularly good either however. There's much better out there, but there's also far worse as well.
>>9263308313" spell and 90pt wizard counts ;)
>>92633118the new version is not a wizard
>>92633096No.
is this game fun or shit
>>92633131It only ever casts either the damage spell, or more-more warp-power
>>92633189It was fun but everyone hated that, now more people play it but it is going to become shit
>>92630163Forget all that. The colours to use from this are cream, orange and black. Maybe green for eyes and special weapons and such to show magic and the like. Good luck.
>>92633189It's shit. Just look at how incredibly pushed it is compared to 40k yet it has like a quarter of the players
>>92633492>40k is suppsoed to be a fun game
>>92633492But 40k is absolute fucking trash, and people are absolutely fanatical about it. Wouldn't the fact that AoS is less popular mean that it's higher quality?
>>92633189Armies feel flavorful. Modern GW practices suck.
>>92633532>>92633542Aos somehow gets like 80% of the new mini releases that 40k does and gets constant support through community articles yet somehow only has like a quarter of the players 40k does. Aos has good minis too because that's the only good thing I ever hear about it so that only leaves the option that aos is just a dogshit game
>>92633610Or, that the masses are retarded and readily consume garbage whilst rejecting quality.Which is the case with AoS.
>>92633610depends. I completely stopped playing 40k with 10e and Im only playing AoS und TOW right now. many people at my LGS are also planning to get involved into AoS with 4e.
>>9263361040k has space marines, just to remind you, tactical squad outsold whole warhammer fantasy range back in the day, they dont need to do anything with 40k.>the only good thing I ever hear about itThats because people you listen to are no-game secondaries, who GW keeps catering to, ruining 40k and AoS as games.
>tfw want to complain about how forgotten my army is and how we're never getting anything but another pity hero>but then realize how many fucking armies that applies to>despairIt would take years of actually work to fix this, and there's no way they will or can do it
>>92633680I mean, FEC got a nice first real wave just recently, so hope is not completely lost.It's going to be interesting what/if factions get separated or shared battletomes in 4e.
>>92633680you do realize that lizards and now rats got a refreshif it can happen to them it can happen to anyonebitch
>>92633773The reason why it took so much, was because it was delayed to add new AoS factions, now its their turn to get refreshed
>>92633716>what/if factions get separated or shared battletomes in 4ethat would be very surprising to meI doubt it, but I'll look forward to seeing>>92633773unimaginably low IQ, can barely believe you typed this without assistance
>>92633680What armies do you feel are neglected or out of date? The game as a whole seems like it has the newest average sculpt age of any of GW's main games.
>>92633820Pretty sure Ogres are the only one left that requires you to buy pre-aos sculpts
>>92633815I hope they do some shuffling around in Chaos. Mostly I think it's fucking stupid a vortex beast isn't part of DoT army list but WoC get Magisters. Also wouldn't mind if some of the basic units for WoC were also just outright in the god specific army books. Warriors, Forsaken, maybe knights, maybe mauraders.
Played a 5000pt game today, it was good fun though with a game so long my concentration and energy levels suffer by round 3.
>>92633843Looking at the webstore they have more resin kits than I knew. Yetees, gnoblars, and sabertusks all look pretty shit but overall I think even if they aren't new they stand the test of time reasonably well.
>>92631889Fine grain train flock from hobby lobby. You can get a giant half gallon bag of it for like $5, or at least that was the case when I bought it in like 2010. Lifetime supply, just dab on some super glue and sprinkle it on or swish the base around in a small tub of it and shake off the excessShould be in with the model train stuff. If there's not a hobby lobby near you just look for any place that sells model train shit. Honestly model train table supplies are great for warhammer basing and terrain, usually just about the right scale and cheap (except the trains themselves which are hundreds of dollars but I dont get into trains)
>>92633936Another pic
>>92633936Fighting in the mortal realm of plastic I see
>>92633815They did it in every edition so far.Already looks like that Ironjawz and kruleboyz will be separate books (again).
>>92634020Man I hope not, that would render my KB unplayable. Only have like 1400 pts
>>92634036I don't think big waagh is a thing anymore anon, it was always kind of a bitch for James to balance.Ironjawz and Kruleboyz are getting separate indexes for sure, but I imagine their tomes won't be till next year so we'll know then.
>>92633970Yeah my opponent hasn't painted his army and the LGS terrain isn't all painted either.
>>92634058We really don't need to go back to the era of microfactions again
>>92634070Whoops, this was meant for >>92633986
>>92634083Bonesplitterz was the only reason why orcs were souped, because they sure AF weren't getting a tome of their own, with Bonesplitterz gone I think orcs get split.
>>92634036I hope it will be the case because I don't want my IJ to play second fiddle to the stinky orcs.
>>92633936>greytide sylvanethI'll never understand these subhumans
>>92634141OWC never stopped you from playing pure IJ
>>92633905No such thing as forsaken, and im pretty sure every god has its own flavour of marauders already
>>92633970pics of the uw warband kitbashes?
>>92634174It did because every time I would look at the battletome or create a list in the app, the ugly KB would be in the front.
>>92634160>>92633936worst thing is he got 5k Sylvaneth with not ONE painted model. Not a single one.
>>92633843besides somewhat static poses on foot troops, ogres are fucking amazing, their centerpiece is like 60 bucks new on ebay, all their troop dudes share a body making conversions and stretching boxes a snap (especially if you have access to z for bodies) and they've gotten some excellent new kits (blackpowder buccaneer dude looks shit from photos but never seen the kit IRL)
>>92633936neat! yeah games get fucking long, on weeknights we start at 5:30 with 2k and are still fucking around with t5 by like 9pm with chatting and everything, always a good time but it's damn long and would feel nice to actually finish more games
>>92633966Thanks anon! Will pick some up, I'm planning a Ghyran-based army and want lots of natural plant basing
>>92634160my sylvaneth opponent (mostly) paints his stuff but just straight up throws them all into boxes with no magnets or foam or anything. nice dude but I always cringe inwardly when he's packing up
>>92634396Not only do all the troops share a body, but all the beast riders also have the same arm and head and gut plate joints, so you can do some really intense cross kit pollination with that range, like using mournfang big hackas to make pollard wielding ironguts or giving gluttons a mournfangs dragonskull banner, or taking the beast riders crossbow and slapping it on a glutton body to make a cheap hunter
>>92634448I need to pick up some mournfang boxes, I was all-gutbuster for awhile when they were drawing a harder distinction between them and Beastclaw, but these days the distinction feels more mellow and I bet in 4th wont even exist really.
>>92634425Should come in bags kinda like this, though I've also seen it in tubs. Just make sure you get the finest grain, and I'd also try to get one that says mixed color, it looks less fake than the solid green ones. Has bits of yellow and different greens mixed to give a bit of a more natural look. I would also try to transfer it to a small tub or jar instead of using it directly out of a bag, speaking from experience, the bag will make a mess of things
>>92634475I have mixed feelings on the mournfang. I own 12 of them. The idea is cool but the mounts feel too small and the ogres and saddles too comically large, they look very goofy. They've also been shit on the table for 3 editions straight which doesn't help
>>92634475I would rather they double down, giving gluttons the option to be taken with the BCR keyword and vice versa for Mournfang and stonehorns. I love the everwinter fluff and options are never bad
>>92634576sad to hear, they look cool in pics, though I must say goofiness is a big part of the draw for ogres to me, I love the comedy of their faces and the near-cubism of their sculpts
>>92634687Might just be a matter of personal taste then. I also have ironjawz and a squig heavy gloomspite, and I much prefer the gore gruntas and manglers to mournfangs, although the stonehorns aren't bad, if quite monopose
All of this ogre talk is making me angry that I got into AoS too late to grab this box
>>92634902vanguard box is huge value too and contains most of the units, grab it before its replaced by spearhead
>>92634902Ironguts aren't even overpriced for WHFB webstore only units, unlike Dispossessed and Delfs. The rest is in the vanguard
>>92634902Ogors are getting squatted
>>92635181They're not a core TOW faction, so I doubt it.
>>92635181>release one new sprue >leadbelchers, Ironguts, gluttons saved from squatting powerful. I think they'll update them by the time ToW gets around to 2e or whatever expansion, seems they're more into cannibalising what they have than releasing new stuff
>>92628035Ironjawz in makeshift diving suits Vs deepkin, though no idea what terrain you'd include with thatAlso khatandron Vs skaven in some warp powered flying contraptionSilent people v iron jaws?
>>92635304kharadron vs skaven is too expectedput skaven in the diving suits and throw them at the idoneth
I still remember people crying when Ogre Kingdoms were released as an army for the first time. That they don't fit the world, that they're retconned, etc.
>>92635338Not sure, it seems like GW is creating warbands that fit in to the overall aesthetics of the broader armies (like Hunter of huanchi) so I don't think we'd get anything too wild for skaven
>>92635446Jade Obelisk and Askurgan Trueblades don't really match their larger armies
>>92635338>>92635368>>92635446Skaven Eshin clan with rats on gliders or with grappling hooks for sky dwarves.Bulky diving suits with under water themed rat ogres for fish elves.Disease pestilens priests vs fungal rot Gitz; could even introduce some new mounted or monstrous infantry units even.And that's without going the easy-mode Skryre route.
what's closer to 40k world eaters in gameplay, blades of khorne or ironjaws?
>>92636001IJ are the actual "run forward and kill things in melee" army; BoK is currently more about buff combos, unit placement, and playing around Blood Tithe. Please keep in mind that army rules may be liable to wildly change soon, as a new edition is around the corner.
>>92635610>Kharadron when after centuries of never having to see a rat in their sky-holds, see jet contrails on the horizon accompanied by skaven cackles.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOaeDHeJ80I
>>92635304>no idea what terrain you'd include with thatcoral, kelp, ruins, chest that opens up and spews bubbles. That sort of thing
>Featuring the novella The Gates of Azyr by Chris Wraight, and novels Soul Wars by Josh Reynolds, and Dominion by Darius Hinks.Worth reading?
>>92636284No
>>92636296It’s cozy that you’re always here casting your line. The stoic fisherman
>>92636284It's just the first novel from every edition. The first two are OK, Dominion was kind of a weird novel though.
I admit it. I like SCE. I think the greek deathmask aesthetic is cool. I like knights in armor. I like hammers. I like when they die that they explode in lightning. I like how they can redirect souls o their own afterlife. I like how visceral the reforging process is. I like deepstriking all over the place. I like their price to point ratio. I like SCE.
>>92636674I've come around to them a bit over the years, it helps the models don't look like trash anymore
>>92633936> 5k of one of the easiest armies to paint> none of it is paintedGRIM in the Dark
>>92636284>paperback onlymeh
>>92636284>The Gates of Azyr by Chris Wraight, and novels Soul Wars by Josh Reynoldsthose two are good but Dominion by Darius Hinks is pretty mehI suggest getting it for like a crash course introduction into AOS lore since there all the first novels of each edition and Soul wars is one the best novel to do so
>>92636674>>92636679Im with you I hated the stomies but thunderstrike and the Hallowed knights possibly becoming the new poster boys have really warmed me up to them.
>>92636674how viable/ fun is order souping with them? might get me to keep both halves of the starter
>>92636968We have no idea what souping is going to look like in 4e yet. It's possible it will be easier than ever, but equally possible they just kill it outright.
>>92636983aux units are gonna fuck you and allies are likeley going to be aux slots
>>92630125I tried out a bit of mesbg and one of the games I played my opponent had some nonsense where they had a caster that just perpetual prevented my cave drake from doing anything. Just made it sit still and they could go smack it and even if it won combat it couldn't attack. Got pretty tilted.
>>92637076Hopefully having access to allies/extra units means there's an argument to taking auxillaries instead of avoiding them at all costs.
>>92636674I like a lot of individual points but their actual armour still throws me off. Knights wearing more historical armour with cool masks, big hammers, and lightning powers would be baller. If I ever wanted to build them I'd have to just use the heads, weapons and mounts on other bodies. Hell I've seen so many gaudy sce -> custodes conversions, maybe it's time for a gaudy custodes -> sce conversion.
>>92628035Aren't half them getting squatted anyways?
>>92637232Half of what, Warcry? No. Literally just STD losing their 16 marauder variants now that they have Darkoath.
>>92637278Plenty of them felt like a pretty distinct role from mauraders.
>>92637305Sure, but the point is literally every other army in the game has 0-1 Warcry Warbands while STD has 2 left even after the purge. If Warcry ever continues to the point where every army has 12 warbands maybe we'll see a 2nd purge.
>>92637335horns of hashut should have stayed at the very least, and probably a handful of the other warbands, but STD needed to get rid of some because theyre bloat to the rules regardless and some kept getting good rules making std army building kinda suck. plus it opens up more slots for the future of warcry for undivided chaos warbands
>>92637380the original 8 had to atleast stay in production.They were the thing that showed alot of people what exactly makes AoS cool
>>92637380>horns of hashut should have stayed at the very leastI'm willing to bet they'll resurface with the Chorfs.
>>92637380I'd argue that Horns of Hashtut should never been in STD in the first place and probably only got shoved in there because Chorfs were delayed or some shit.
>>92637380I think we all know why the HoH got removed despite being a season 2 warband
>>92637380hashut will probably come back if chorf memes turn out to be real.>>92636968>>92636983>>92637076>>92637166Honestly the more I think about it the more I like the thought of mixing in some lizards with them.I'm now curious to see what the ally rule(s) will be if they still exist now.
>>92637380>bloat to the rulesthat's not the reason, the reason is because they want you to buy the new darkoath instead and because turns out there's not enough demand for 16 different kits for the same unit of half naked chaos barbarians
>>92633096I was umming and aahing about buying it, it seems like the series is finally going somewhere. But I didn't $65 want it so just bought Krethusa's box instead.She has lovely feet and I'm not even a footfag
>>92637462i hope the next wh+ mini for fantasy is another version of one of the command corps miniatures, either another arch-knight since they can do alot with them, or something else like another mascot gargoylian or banner bearerOr just an alternate freeguil marshal
This thread got me to check the stormcast tome and HOLY SHIT that bloat. It's almost near space marine tier already. Well it was if they don't replace a lot. The heroes need to be culled.
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