>Your party has just succeeded in formenting a revolution and overthrowing the government/aristocracy>Now you have to put the pieces back together and make a state from nothing but revolutionary zealHow does your party fare?
I immediately attempt to form a new ruling class and substitute the ideals of the revolution for my own wilful use of power.
Rolled 2 (1d20)>>92643047Oh sorry, wait, let me roll for that.
>>92643037Party immediately falls into in fighting as my paladin straggles the rogue for being evil with power while the cleric and bard do something stupid that causes me and the rogue to put out the fires they make
>>92643061You fail so hard at subverting the revolution you create fucntioning communism on accident.
>>92643061Ooh, sorry bro, your attemps to institute despotism fails. You accidentally create utopia instead.
>>92643085>>92643246God damn it not AGAIN.
>>92643061>the player playing stalin scrubs you out of the picture
>>92643037Kill 100 million of their own citizens and then cry but we didn't try it for real.
>>92644579>Kill 100 million of their own citizenspeasants are what, some 10xp a piece?
>>92644593What level would stalins eventually Mao's after some players and player characters are shuffled around party be by the end of it
>>92643037My current character would probably just rob the treasury blind and then fuck off back to his own country. Again.
The politics and plots of civilization are beneath the "King of the Beasts".He was assured that once the "Freedom Fighters" won the war they'd free the working beasts and wild animals used as commodities and petsHe'll be on his way once that's finished.
>>92646430This is a based character concept desu
>>92644579>the party acts like murderhobos>gets expelled from 109 kingdoms>blames the GM for making the NPCs biased against them
>>92643037Poorly.We are all overeducated psuedes who have no idea how to run a command economy, and have a bunch of pissed off inbred rural rednecks breathing down our necks for results.Maybe we should have studied logistics instead of psychology.
>>92644834But anon, Israel hadn't been invented yet..
I try to kill my party members who helped me.
>>92643037Uhhh... let's see. Our 2e party consists of;>Ditzy druid played by a guy that has a bit of ADD and tends to not have a good grasp on figuring out what the results of his actions will be.>Cleric with a background in diplomacy with dubious moral compass who practices necromancy.>Dwarf monk who is technically good, but their cult is focused on doing horrible things to bad people to keep an evil god entertained so he doesn't cause even greater harm to entertain himself. Honestly borderline neutral and not particularly sane.>A ranger and two fighters played by DMs teenage son, Ditzy Druids pre-teen son and Ditzy Druids pre-teen nephew. Their first characters and they don't really have any clue what they're doing.>My wizard who is a workaholic who wanted to be a healer, but felt being a cleric was for losers incapable of understanding magic so they delved into necromancy and figured out how to cast healing spells with it. Was supposed to be a bit of an oddball with dubious behavior. Typically almost cartoonist faux-menacing stuff like using a bit of illusion magic to makes skull shaped vapors to rise from their beakers if anyone were watching do some alchemy in their lab, really hamming it up some times. Or test out mostly harmless spells on people for the flimsiest excuses. Like a spell the does non-lethal damage by causing micro-tears in their skeletal muscles similar to overworking them, while also also enhancing their sensitivity to pain to "pacify " targets. Some how ended up being tied with the cleric for sanest person of the bunch.Though even the cleric has had their moments, like using a bit of mind control to borrow horses from the queen's stables. Even though we were on an errand for the Queen and we could have just asked without the mind control. I made sure the horses were returned promptly once we were done with them.I do not see this going well.
>>92643037>we're doing great work together
>It took a lot of hard work, but I did it.
>>92643037The party's inquisitor turns it into an industrial powerhouse, with a powerful inquisition, administration, and a growing military-industrial complex within a few years.
>>92643037my half-baked pet setting is like thisthe republic where all the action takes place was founded by four level 20 adventurers who overthrew the monarchythey realized they'd be shit at actually governing a country so they fucked off to continue adventuring, with the promise that if parliament let things get too bad they'd come back and start another revolutionthe laws of the country are based on the typical rpg player's morality. slavery is banned and punishable by death, but genocide of monsters is legal and actively supported by the government. adventurers guilds have taken the role of the east india company, sending out expeditions to pillage the four corners of the globe
>>92647379Sole survivor of revolutionary struggle and hero of the people. As they say it's lonely at the top, are you perhaps looking for new friends, and new talents to join your party Somebody to share your vision and help you do the necessary, build the vision, remove the obstacles that gets in its way. I can be that somebody. Can help you babysit too, I'm good with kids.
As my party is backed by another institution (the most important wizard guild on the continent) they immediately establish a scholarly dictatorship.
>>92648662Real-life Liar Darkfalse
>>92643085>functioning communismBruh why didn't you tell us this was a fantasy setting?
>>92643037The plan was to create a land that didn't need us to protect it, and a people who didn't need rulers. Unfortunately, the Skull Rain started before we were even a quarter of the way through, and then the Collapse happened. Watching the earth swallow an entire metropolis and everyone inside it is not exactly conducive to peaceful, non-hierarchial relations, especially when this follows previous portents of annihilation.We still don't know if these were "natural" magical events or if someone caused it all just to make our jobs harder.
>>92646677It’s up to 110 now actually, thanks to Oman
>>92644717They're communists, so everyone in the country gets a share of the xpSo you kill 100m peasants, 200m surviving peasants divide the rewards.Also, we're using the AD&D rules where if you change alignment, xp rewards are halved until you level up. Changing government is like changing alignment, so it seems only fair.
>>92643037>we leave the boring administrative tasks to npcs we trust>we follow various hooks the dm presented us with, like former comrades still wanting to fight or former government loyalists who can be resoned with>if we get some good idea of our own, we throw it in and the Dm picks it up and weaves a few sessions around that idea
>>92651343Oh, so thaaaat's why they always mass murder each other. It's like one of those Japanese things where they put a bunch of poisonous insects in a jar and they eat each other until only the most poisonous is left.Conservation of XP. This means that The Last Communist will be immortal, but until then they are all weak. Like Communist Highlander.
>>92651343>implyingSome communists are higher level than others
>>92644717hard to say since they kept killing and replacing their own party members too.
>party implements the Gulag system to farm XP
>>92648048honestly thats kinda cool.Especially if you factor in the player habit of adopting random things then you could have the republic having sanctioned "One of the good one" monster groups and a focus on actually building up their territory with all the plunder.
>>92651144honestly surprised oman was not already on the list.
>>92656034one of the scalphunter gangs scourging the frontier is "one ear", a group of orcs and goblinoids who want to be on the winning side for once. their initiation is cutting off your own ear to claim the bounty for it.
>>92643085kek
>>92648048I like this! I'm tinkering with a small-scale setting where adventurers are explicitly this very fraught but romantic concept who are half admired and half viewed with suspicion by the populace, and players are living in the shadow of the last generation of adventurers who really shook things upI was thinking it'd be set on the frontier of a somewhat oppressive empire, with their well-funded agents serving as potential recurring bads; but setting is in a semi-anarchic republic sounds really fun
>>92658526>I was thinking it'd be set on the frontier of a somewhat oppressive empirethis is how it ended up in practice. the first dungeon I ran was beneath a colony city built on an old cooling tower, built in ancient times to let smog escape from the now-abandoned dwarf fortress beneath. the colony was run by a mix of mages, clerics and fighters who bought a monopoly on all trade in the region from the genius loci (the name of the main legislative body). later I got the idea that the scalphunting bands could be used to apply forward pressure in cases where dungeon exploration got bogged down. if you don't stay ahead of them they'll kill everyone and steal everything that's not nailed down.my current project is a regional map for hex24. the last surviving baroness of the giant kingdoms is holding a massive battle royale to choose a husband. three warlords have brought their armies to the region to enter the tournament, and are pillaging the surrounding area while they wait for the festivities to begin. >robert the bandit and the green men of one ear, a large force that makes up for poor quality troops with combined arms tactics>wilusa the lamia and her elite team of ensorceled adventurers, enticed by the giantess' industrial scale human farming operations>gorrister the great and his brigands of all nations, an army of mid-level monsters united by a shared vision of a pirate kingdomthe commonwealth wants the giantess dead but their assassins haven't made any progress killing her. meanwhile the leaders of the colony are looking for a fourth tournament candidate to bankroll, in hopes of establishing a friendly puppet kingdom.
>>92643037As well as they are comfortable with/interested in.
My party literally just overthrew a government.It wasn't because of any kind of revolutionary zeal, it was because they sent us to deal with a witch, and it turns out the witch was fucking with them because they didn't pay the witch. So we dealt with the witch, then went to get out pay, and they didn't fucking pay us.So now there's a new government.
>>92643037Oh boy, time to purge each other like the retarded degenerate ideologues that we are!
>>92643037>Hey look, a minority!>(robs treasury)
Rolled 6 (1d20)>>92643037For a non-meme answer on how I’d do it, I’d compromise a bit on ideology for the sake of stability once the state isn’t in crisis mode (ie. civil war, foreign invasion). Aristocrats who are willing to swear allegiance to the new regime are eligible for compensation for confiscated property, keep the bureaucracy as a whole to ensure minimal disruption in public services, with exceptions made for those too ideologically opposed to the new order. Land redistribution will take the form of breaking up large estates into individual plots, communal land ownership will be recognized where it already exists but not promoted. I’d also groom a successor and gradually step away from running things and go into semi-retirement, still being available for advice but letting my protege run the show.Rolling to see whether I succeed or get killed with the kulaks.
>>92648662>Can help you babysit too, I'm good with kids.sounds legit
>>92643037My character would be a lovable idiot leader that would do everything in his power to protect the people and utterly fail at anything involving an iota of policy or politicking.The elf best friend of his would be a great diplomat and the real power behind the government, and he'd happily do whatever my character asked. The half orc would be doing a lot of the dirty work with his operative skills. One of the druids would raise up and empower a warrior caste, while the other would be of absolute no help, save for the random stories of him talking about how he dealt with the old empire in a war that ended before he was even born...
>>92651343Yeah but not everyone would change alignment because not everyone would be complicit in the commies' actions.Or, do they just not get XP if they aren't participating?
>>92666444I think your group could spin doctor that into revolutionary zeal. Nothing wrong with wanting to set up a society where a man can get paid what he's due.Also where slavery is illegal because I know you niggers too well.
>>92643037Revolution is ontologically evil. Would you categorize revolutionaries as chaotic evil, or as lawful evil knowing the overwhelming majority of revolutions in the real world were fianced by ontologically evil?
>>92674274>ontological evilJust say jews, you can just say jews, we all know what you mean
>>92674274Revolutions are Gvil but Communist is Good so it balances out to true neutral
>>92674737Their book says the made a deal with ontological evil entities because God has left them.>>92674745Communism was penned by a guy who wrote satanist poetry before working for the news.
>>92674274Revolution is a Chaotic act by any sensible definition of either, and doing so against a system that imposes Evil behavior is Good.
>>92674274Bootlicker.
>>92675207Only as long as whoever's in the boots is the right color, obviously
well obviously the entire party dies because revolutionaries always get executed after
We've no interest in setting up a government. Instead, we move onto the next country we plan to destabilise.
>>92643047Thank you comrade Stalin, very cool.
>>92678632Um hello, based department? You're gonna wanna have a look at this...
>>92678632I wonder who could be behind this post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWsxkzSzKRoOnly good commie is a dead commie
>>92678779Our most recent assassination was a not-jewish merchant king, if it makes you feel better.
>>92675207Revolutions were started by bootlickers and ended in bootlicking. Why else did Marx demand the "revolutionary holocaust" (sic) of Poles who fought out of a religious understanding that the very notion of revolution is ontologically evil? The term "revolucionista" is a slur in their tongue.
>>92643037>All Vet GM table.>All PC's except one almost always have a high WIS or INT equivalent stat.We do pretty damn well.One of us inevitably ends up making a Magitech land of high academics, likely ruled by an Arcanocracy or some such. Basically top scholars and mages ultimately end up in charge because lmao top of field.Another ends up writing up the theologics aspect of the nation because he tend to play religious pragmatists. He writes, with GM blessing, several hundred years of theologic history and cultural principles around Passion and Self-Sacrifice to a cause, that stand up to ironclad scrutiny because they use four years of Religious education, three of homebrew, and no one even bothers to use or reference the broadest points at all.A third player decides to go out of his way to flaunt it because his basically-barbarian 'is dumb and doesn't give a fuck for the rules of weaker men'. But the rest of his development centers around self-service and acquiring more personal power.A fourth gets hitched.And a fifth starts an enormous network of martial arts monasteries to take in and train Orphans. No he doesn't consume DC material, and hadn't even thought of a Batman reference at all until it was bought up.What happens is we get a small, but artistically developed nation-state of high Mage's, professional martial artists, a smattering of legendary warriors, and a couple of tank corps.
>>92678788Their music is better than yourshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWas7fEBL2g
>>92678788Commies will exist as long Satan exists.>>92681994Satan wants to be worshipped so of course he'll make popular things.
>>92643037>formenting
>>92681994Don't shit on Marty Robbins
>>92688387>muh cowboy musicHow does it feel knowing that 95% of people who know his music know it because of a game made by communists?
>>92648662hey look it's FDRoh wait you just noticed FDR's phenotype?weird!I wonder why he got us into world war 2that's so strangeI wonder what phenotype that is by the way?Hmmmmmmmmmmvery strange now that you think about itdoesn't look very AmericanLooks like something else...............
>>92688766His family is dutch (krauts (not human))
>>92681490Its like literal mental slavery.
>>92681490I can't imagine what allows your mind to reach this conclusion, other than stating it in jest or under false pretenses.I can not imagine a human being that thinks this way that is not damaged in some fundamental way.
>>92647379You made Stalin look like Freddy Mercury?
>>92674274>asserting your rights is evil, giving all the power to the psychotic child rapists who seek political office is good.
>>92688940Even a just authority should be, at times, questioned.
>>92688940I do not trust those with power.
>>92688952You qestion authority, but what do you do if it's found wanting? In my opinion, the correct answer is to drag the corrupt leaders out of their palaces and into the streats where the mob can have its justice. Not sure what you would do, since revolution is ontologically evil.
>>92688995Well obviously it never would be if (anon's preferred group) were in power
>>92688454Are you saying Bethesda is a "communist" corporation? Define what a "communist" corporation would look like?
>>92688820>>92688831Communism is mental slavery. How else did THE *culturally* anti-communistic Poles get credited with destroying the Soviet Union from the inside? The Russians are still angry to this day.
>>92643037He unironically did nothing wrong
>>92689367Fallout New Vegas was developed by Obsidian, and many of the writers at Obsidian - including Josh Sawyer, the lead developer for New Vegas - are socialists.
>>92691452GASP
>>92690742He surely took a pickaxe the wrong way
>>92643037Our party immediatly tries to get rid of the rival in the party, while the 3rd man out can watch in thge sidelines and strike at an opportune moment
>>92690742The correct way would be to say he didn't manage to do anything wrong, although he really wanted to.Although early communism had a lot in common with modern faggotry.
>>92696906modern faggotry and commission are both vile off spring of French and German c*ntinental universalist enlightenment philosophy. Sadly this strain has all but killed English Liberalism, even in its home country. The French deserve to burn for eternity for killing their king, simply due they what is unleashed.
>>92697408Christianity is fake btw
>>92643037>Your party has just succeeded in formenting a revolution and overthrowing the government/aristocracy>Now you have to put the pieces back together and make a state from nothing but revolutionary zealI sit back and watch as my ethnostate just kinda... gets on with their life and starts to function, now that we've gotten rid of a few certain problems.
>>92643037>now you have to put the pieces back togetherBold of you to assume we care about the country, and it wasn't all just a scheme to nab an artifact from the Royal treasury.
>>92697827>AU where Lenin and the gang initiated the October Revolution just so they could get their hands on Fabrege Eggs
>>92643037But anon, it's February, not October.For real though, my group is currently in the midst of fomenting revolution against the crown but we're (mostly) of the nobility ourselves and hail from the conservative heartland of the realm; the goal of the revolution is to place power in the hands of a parliament of barons and other appropriately eminent lords. The only people interested in overthrowing the aristocracy are those demon-worshippers from the Far South and while we might be technically allied for now that's pretty much only because the decadent capital and the Mad King's forces lie between us.
>>92643037OH SHIT WE FORGOT ABOUT THE LICH!!
>>92688387Isn't this America? I'm free to shit on whoever I want.
>>92698967so what? October Revolution didn't happen in October
>>92697408You do know over here they think it's the Anglos who invented wokeism or whatever and are a tool of Satan and/or the jews to destroy European civilisation, right? You do understand that people like you in other countries think about you and your country exactly like you think about them and theirs, right? Just with different labels slapped onto it.
>>92678656Lenin did it too.
>>92699054And Castro.
>>92698996>you do understandAbsolutely not, what would lead you to think that he understands anything like that
>>92643037The rogue trader and the missionary do fuck-all aside from bankrupting the national treasury to pay for lavish parties while the populace starves. Meanwhile, the heretek desperately tries to maintain civil order the only way she knows how: Converting as many people as possible into servitors that are designed to forcibly convert more people into servitors.I'd give it a 50/50 chance of the party being wiped out in a new revolution within a few months. Otherwise, a critical mass of servitors will be reached where they're too numerous to be stopped, and the populace perish in a kind of mechanical zombie apocalypse until only the party and a mass of mindless servitors remain. So, you know, functionally the same outcome as communism.
>>92698976We didn't forget.
>>92697758You still have time to turn back, repent, and say "The media has been wrong for over a century."
>>92699697>So, you know, functionally the same outcome as communism.Uh, no? Communism isn't real if it doesn't include constant, stable amounts of conscious human suffering on the country+ scale.Servitors are too convenient.
>>92702599That's any Bible God, Yahweh. So all forms of Judaisim, Christianity, Islam and Mormonism. Why is that an issue?
>>92703651it's because christoids are niggers with the biggest persecution problems.
>>92702599le fag argument? no one whose opinion matters gives a shit.>I'm right! why? I said so!cool, you and a million other chumps & bullshit artists. you're definitely going to move my immortal soul towards christendom by lukewarmly muttering your position without any qualifying arguments
>>92703690No no, the -book- said he's right, that's what makes him right
Empowered Eugenic Aristocracy. Religious Antifragility on a state level. Budget through enforced state monopoly on lending, caste system that makes it legal to kill actors, prostitutes (any working woman) and musicians for stepping in your shadow or entering buildings through a door instead of the designated actor-hatch that is 2 feet tall.Get to work on our industrial scale gigachad breeding program. I'm going to make the Jade Falcons look like fucking Pakistan.
>>92703690I don't know why, Evangelism is like the gayest thing in the world.
>>92702599You managed to pick a single religion to follow out of the, what, twenty? thirty? a hundred? religions?What makes you think yours is correct?Imagine dying and it turns out your religion was the wrong one, and you get confined to a wall for the rest of eternity or something.Religion is an outdated, unnecessary concept. People only use it for two things: to cope with being unable to imagine oblivion, and to replace developing their own values like a regular and complete adult.Admitting you're religious is like saying you believe in Santa Claus. You should be embarrassed.
>>92706615nah, I think religion has potential. but religious people have to realise that they're no longer the majority they were and they can't phone it in or bully others anymore. atheism or agnostic pastiche is the eminent spiritual position, so christians can start being radical progressive underdogs again, fuck off to their abusive WASP culture and/or retarded alt-right/nu-spirituality revival, or drop the act and just stop pretending they believe in anything so we can appreciate their deceased tradition's occasional beauty without them.
>>92706645>religion has potentialPotential to make people waste a bunch of their life on useless bullshit that won't actually do anything for them after they die, sure.Religions in general just need to fuck off, especially the ones that are just full of hypocrites and massively affecting a major country's government when they explicitly shouldn't be.
>>92706669>Religions in general just need to fuck off, especially the ones that are just full of hypocrites and massively affecting a major country's government when they explicitly shouldn't be.Wokeism?
>>92706686Not woke, just someone who hates stupidity and hypocrisy. The people mutilating their bodies to 'change genders' are also very dumb.
>>92706697Stupidity and hypocrisy aren't religious, but human traits. Accordingly, they show up in religions.And as for religion, they fucked off, and you got what you asked for - anti-human ideologies, and anti-human religions who weren't so gracious to listen to your bullshit.So be careful what you wish for, buddy.
>>92706703> Accordingly, they show up in religions.Disproportionately. The sheer number of Christians who don't actually practice what their book preaches is baffling.>religions already fucked off?They're all still there. Rotting peoples' brains, ruining progress, wasting time.I'll keep wishing.
>>92706732Omnipresently. The sheen number of [people] who don't actually practice what they preach is baffling.>They're all still there.No, they aren't. The thing that rotted your brain was the ideology, majority of the western world is irreligious.That didn't actually improved progress any, and if anything, just made thing actually worse.Keep wishing.
>>92706669eh, am I gonna argue this? I see value in religion though I'm not religious. if you don't, ok. I think you might be missing something, but we're all missing things. >hypocritesmost traditions and ideologies are full of hypocrites, especially those that claim to solve pretty much everything. unfortunately humans are just riddled with dishonesty>>92706686>wokeism?better called a cult than a religion, though it's really more like a bogeyman. idk what wokeism you're looking at, but what I see called wokeism is just bog standard liberal values
>>92706773Well I agree with you, but for the sake of clarity, it's an ideology anyway, which is religion without the divine.And those values were kinda different few decades ago, since old liberals are now routinely cannibalized by new ones.
>>92706832to casually say that ideologies and religions are alike makes some sense, but the distinction is important, and 'wokeism' (not sure if you mean standard liberalism or the semi-fictitious 'PC agenda') and christianity aren't alike at all. you may as well say ideologies are whenever people have ideas.>those values were differentin some ways yes, in some ways no. the landscape changes, and now things that made sense seem really dumb and fake, and things that were in style are uncool. I wouldn't say leftists and liberals have changed more than everyone has changed and that's life.
