Guys like this used to be insanely popular. You don't see this type too much anymore, though. What happened? Why are edgy elf or elf-adjacent wizard swordsmen no longer in?
>>92705371The elf king in Hellboy 2 had a great design
>>92705371Goes in waves. Mopey bitchboys are coming back in scifantasy.
Contrarianism. Now it's the lawful good deus vult Paladin that's edgelord central.
>>92705488Probably more.
>>92705371All trends fall off eventually and come back again. Like werewolves, vampires, zombies, etc. I want to see characters like Duke Nukem, Quake's MC and Doomguy make a comeback. I thought we might see that after the most recent Doom game but there's only been an uptick in gore and body horror.
>>92705491Doesn't seem to have the same popularity.
>>92705371they are popular in jrpgshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_VuMeBw9x8
>>92705371Geralt literally is Elric lol
>>92705371Edgy is seen as uncool now. Now if you want to be "Cool" you need to have purple hair, a permanently gaping anus, and have the LGBT flag tattooed on your forehead.
>>92706368shut uuup you enormous homo. you propagate 'woke' aesthetics more than woke people do. oh my god the absolute state of boomerism, stop shouting at the tv>edgy is seen as uncooledgy is seen as tryhard, but so are a lot of things
>>92705377I rewatched it coincidentally last week and from his perspective I kinda understand>people clearly more advanced than the humans>his dad makes a deal that the mythical creatures would stick to the natural areas of the world>naturally 2000 years later a good part of said nature is gone with mankind showing no signs of stopping>somehow he's the bad guy for suggesting his people shouldn't just accept fading into nothing as man continues to destroy both their and their own world
>>92705371Characters who don't quip every 2 minutes are deemed edgy and problematic. The cool thing now is to have archetypes ripped off from the MCU, with a dose of American politics, neon bright colors and your personal sexual fetishes.
I wonder, if The Crow (1994) were to be released today, would people like it?>>92705630>I want to see characters like Duke Nukem, Quake's MC and Doomguy make a comebackThose are rooted in 80s action movies and the latter two on space marines also. But Expend4bles (2023) was a box office bomb...>>92706218Yes we won't get rid of Sephiroth imitators in JRPGs any time soon.>>92706245Geralt is manlier.>>92706841>your personal sexual fetishesMaybe it's just me but that stuff always comes across as "Write about a sexual preference you don't have", because some boxes have to be ticked, and nothing seems to indicate the commitee designing it is having a sufficient amount of fun.
>>92706997Luckily for you, we'll soon find out (kinda): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crow_(2024_film)>geralt is manlierEven in the books? Like I know people love geralt because Witcher 3 geralt quips and was clearly modeled to be more handsome than even his Witcher 2 counterpart
>>92707208Because they actively don't want him there. Except tolkien.
>>92705371Aren't vampire types like this?They're still popular.
>>92706844It is when it's just a lazy coat of paint and a catchphrase divorced from the original context. Many of them are just chaotic stupid edge lords screaming about murder in the name of a god that doesn't exist in a given setting. That, or they simply don't actually care about the religious part and just want an excuse for zealotry.
>>92707573so it's ok if I scream TYR WILLS IT as I honor-kill infidels in a dnd game?
>>92705488This was a decade ago, anon
>>92707662Yep. The kids who watched it should be in their 20s by now, so they're still target audiences and getting into making their own stuff. I'd expect various bits of it to emerge over the next decade.
>>92708051>golem with microwave beam blazer neurokentic implant >an ancient magictech known as the brain boiler
>white people are le evil trope>especially if they are albino Also netflix ruined the Witcher
>>92708171Elric and Berserk did it long ago
>>92706497he is right though, you crybaby
>>92708152Why yes, those are fantasy concepts, and nothing more.
>>92705371Hazbin Hotel is almost entirely characters like that all stacked together. Skinny edgy loners with magic powers fighting against various oppressive cultural norms both from their own and exterior forces.
>>92708196Oh lol you're the had sci-fi anon.
>>92707617Really doing a great job at proving you aren't exactly the kind of dumb contrarian edgelord being called out by >>92705491
>>92708219does that mean you agree with me?
>>92708209>doesn't matter, had sci-fi
>>92708186NoJudge Holden and Mobi dick did it
>>92708202The difference is that Hazbin is dripping with faggotry.
>>92707446And Lewis...and even Conan the Barbarian's Mitra is basically Christian God.
>>92707208you are fucking retarded, kid95% of fantasy settings ARE about Christianity
>>92707208>>92710097Ladies, ladies, please... you're both equally retarded.
>>92706806>somehow he's the bad guy for suggesting his people shouldn't just accept fadingnot bad. Weak.
>>92705371Man, what a great time Legion was.
>>92710097shitting on christianity*
>>92707446>another christretard thinks Eru is the Christian God
>>92706844It's more the hardcore Crusader Purge-aholic attitude that's getting people to label it as edgy. There's a huge difference between a typical 3.5 paladin and Azrael from DC Comics. A lot of people play paladins now like Doom Slayer or a 40K Space Marine.
>>92712860Did people ever play Paladins like do gooder knights in shining armour? It feels like something that people said happened but never did.Or maybe they did and people who played Thieves who wanted to backstab tied up prisoners and be edgelords called it lawful stupid when the Paladin wouldn't let them murder defenseless people (even though Big Daddy Gygax says that even if we may not like it that's what peak lawful good looks like).
>>92706997>But Expend4bles (2023) was a box office bomb...Because they changed it so the leader wasn't an action star, but arm candy, all while leading a team of 'hip and cool' newcomers.
>>92712947Ackchyuallly Gygax said it's okay for Lawful Good characters to execute evil people whenever it's convenient.
>>92712947>Did people ever play Paladins like do gooder knights in shining armour? It feels like something that people said happened but never did.Used to happen way more in the 90's and 2000's. I remember it a lot in a lot of MMOs like WoW, people used to roleplay like that pretty frequently. And alignment in the older editions somewhat mandated it, but a lot of people maligned the stupidity some people interpreted that code mandated.>Or maybe they did and people who played Thieves who wanted to backstab tied up prisoners and be edgelords called it lawful stupid when the Paladin wouldn't let them murder defenseless people (even though Big Daddy Gygax says that even if we may not like it that's what peak lawful good looks like).Little bit of A, little bit of B.
>>92705371People realized Moorcock is a hack.
>>92712994That's what I was trying to say - that Gygax said peak lawful good is killing defenseless prisoners.
>>92707169It's a remake. It doesn't have half the goddamn soul or direction.
>>92712220I also loved grinding artifact power for ten hours a day, anon. Fucking dumbass.
>>92713107>commenting on the direction of a movie that isn’t out yetbased retard
>>92713141lmao okay mythic raider you go do that
>>92707446No, not even Tolkien.
>>92706245Superficially, he's not really as emo as Elric
>>92708171Retard
>>92705488Pretty sure he is stabbing himself with this little lightsaber crossguard. Like, we are seeing him about .01 seconds before he just collapses from a pierced heart.
>>92709438almost had scifihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywWhhkWntfA
>>92706245Note for future reference this anon is a relatively consistent baiter that tries to stir up some sort of Elric/Geralt controversy on a good deal of Elric threads (I don't frequent Witcher threads so I can't comment there).
Sorry anon, Himbos are in right now.Bigstrong low IQ allys, thats what people want.
>>92706245>Whole House of the dragon is basically Elric
>>92706368Edgy will always be cool
>>92715911You are a contrarian.
>>92706806All elves are scum who deserve to be genocided to extinction. Total Elf Death
>>92712860>like Doom Slayer or a 40K Space MarineWhat makes this funnier is that originally The Astartes were a bunch of completely psychotic murder hobos, now they're a bunch of bitchass warrior monks bullshit.
>>92716092>The Astartes were a bunch of completely psychotic murder hobos, now they're a bunch of bitchass warrior monks bullshit.It has always been both.
>>92715924>>92712252>>92710126In slmost every fantasy there are literally quasi-jesus figures and Gods that emulate Christ like Ilmater in FR and Alll-mer from Fear &HungerI aint even talking about all the holy knights and orders there are
>>92716065>implying elfocide is anything to feel shameful about
>>92705371In case you failed to notice, the modern fantasy faggot types are taking their cues primarily from them as well, just, you know, faggy.I don't think they've ever been THAT popular.For any Elric, there's always at least two Conans.For Illidan, there are thousands of Arthases and Groms, and Thralls, and on and on.People used to chuckle at cosplayers and fanboys even at their time.They're kinda cool, I like them myself, but more classy archetypes I think are still more popular and even to this day.That doesn't mean they're leaving, they always had their own niche for some people, and it was always their intended purpose.
>>92706368Edgy's never passe, but it's almost always niche
>>92716892>Elves as a fatasy race were invented to represent the ideal Catholic. Subversion is gay and deleting history is satanic.Elves are from norse mythology lol>An elf (Old Norse álfr, Old English ælf, Old High German alb, Proto-Germanic *albaz) is a certain kind of demigod-like being in the pre Christian mythology and religion of the Norse and other Germanic peoples.
>>92716932Pre-Tolkienian dwarves were kobolds, elves were fairies, and orcs were demons, and in contemporary fantasy fiction, elves represent the industry's hatred of European colonialist mentality.'That guy' is a known elf hater so elf hate is a red flag.
>>92706844>oh, you don't want me to self-righteously roam around the countryside with a giant sword playing judge, jury and executioner cutting down people left and right for some poorly defined "evil", acting on my own interpetration of a religious text written by humans in the name of a deus absconditus who will never ever come around to actually tell me whether my actions are right or not?>guess you're just an anti-christian contrarian cuckI hate paladins so fucking much
>>92713141>he didn’t just wait until 7.3 to resubNo one to blame but yourself.
>>92717036There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.Heresy grows from idleness.
>>92717100I'm fine with braindead zealot characters, just don't pretend that you're "good"
>>92717109Blessed is the mind too small for doubt because a small mind is easily filled with faith.
>>92717036>for some poorly defined "evil"Nice try.Detect Evil goes gingle - you're evil. Prepare to be purged.
>>92717648You are a hollow man
>>92717719>Sephiroth knockoffsJust so you know, you're no better that tradcath larpers.
Let's keep it on topic, fellas.
>>92717874This.>>92705371Post their fictional biographies and let's distill what makes their archetype.
Alright let's get this thread back on trackPic related is the best.
>>92717994Looks the part but what's his backstory
>>92718069He was a nobleman and was assassinated when he was thirty years old after getting thrown out of a tavern but when he was in the underworld he was revived by a necromancer who promised him revenge.Sounds generic but I really like himhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LK8Xawk7Y4
>>92715346Never watched the show, never will, is that true? I thought it was, but I saw a inner city princess riding a dragon in an ad once
>>92717994This game was awesome, I wish this aesthetic would make a comeback>>92717958>Post their fictional biographies and let's distill what makes their archetype.Oh, shit, maybe we should make our own OC in addition to this?
Elric>Elric is the last emperor of the stagnating island civilization of Melniboné. Physically weak, the anemic Elric must use drugs (special herbs) to maintain his health and vitality. From childhood, he read freely in the immense royal library and learned of the world outside the Dreaming Isle. Perhaps due to this in-depth study, unlike other members of his race, Elric has a conscience. He witnesses the decadence of his culture, which once ruled the known world, and worries about the rise of the Young Kingdoms populated by humans (Melnibonéans consider themselves separate from humanity), along with the threat they pose to his empire. Because of Elric's introspective self-loathing and hatred of Melnibonéan traditions, his subjects find him odd and unfathomable.>Elric is an accomplished sorcerer and summoner. As emperor of Melniboné, Elric is able to call for aid upon the traditional patron of the Melniboné emperors, Arioch, a Lord of Chaos and Duke of Hell. From the first story, Elric uses ancient pacts and agreements with not only Arioch, but various other beings—some gods, some demons—to help him accomplish his tasks.>Elric's discovery of the sword Stormbringer serves as both his greatest asset and disadvantage. The sword confers upon Elric strength, health, and fighting prowess, allowing him to do away with his dependence on drugs, but it must be fed by the souls of intelligent beings. In the end, the blade takes everyone close to Elric and eventually Elric's own soul as well.
Illidan>Born a night elf and sorcerer, his pursuit of power led him to commit several horrific acts against his own people, which earned him the nickname "the Betrayer">Driven by his thirst for power and his desire to impress Tyrande Whisperwind, Illidan made a pact with demons to secure the entrance of their leader, the fallen titan Sargeras, into the world, largely by the energy of the Well of Eternity; this act earned Illidan the nickname of "Betrayer". The efforts of Malfurion Stormrage, Illidan's twin brother, disrupted the Legion's plot, with Illidan himself turning to his side and assisting in the demons' defeat. After recreating the destroyed Well of Eternity, Illidan was imprisoned for thousands of years. >During the Third War, Tyrande released Illidan from millennia of imprisonment, hoping that the Betrayer would redeem himself by battling a returned Burning Legion. Though Illidan fought to defend his people, he soon slipped into darkness; after absorbing the energies of the demonic Skull of Gul'dan, Illidan became a demon, an act for which he was banished by Malfurion. Fleeing the wrath of the night elves, the twice-condemned Illidan allied himself once again with the only entity that would accept him—the Legion.
Drizzt>Born in Menzoberranzan as the third son to Matron Malice, the leader of House Do'Urden. His father is a weapons master who secretly hates drow society and teaches Drizzt his martial skills as he reinforces Drizzt's innate moral code.>During a raid against a group of surface elves, Drizzt finds himself unable to participate in the slaughter with his fellow drow. He pretends to kill an elf child, but actually helps her to escape. When the deception is discovered, his father is sacrificed in Drizzt's stead to appease Lolth, the drow's goddess. Following a war against another House, Drizzt curses his family and the evil drow ways and escapes Menzoberranzan into the Underdark.
Nuada>Nuada Silverlance is the Crown Prince of the Bethmoora clan (also known collectively with other magical races as the 'sons of the earth'), and the last warrior of the elves. He is the only son of King Balor, and the twin brother of Nuala. He attendedthe creation and the reception of the Golden Army. Nuada is anti-humanistic and focused on preserving only his own kind and other non-human lives, destroying all people, but is not an absolutely evil being; rather, he blames humanity for all the unhappiness of man to life and considers their destruction will benefit non-humans.
>>92718737>>92718744>>92718757>>92718789>almost always royalty or nobility>often has a grudge against their own kind or their own kind's political leadership>almost always wields some kind of cursed power, be it a weapon, magic, or both>often has a "willing to do what others won't" mindset>often willing to make a deal with a dark power to get what he wants>goals are sometimes personal, but often done in the name of "his people" or "a people" (like innocents, in drizzt's case)>bucks the "established order" or his culture's norms in some way>sometimes self-serving, sometimes altruistic>misunderstood altruist>often anti-hero, sometimes villain, rarely pure hero>skilled fighter, often a skilled sorcerer>pale or dark/purple skin>often white hair
Here's another of this elf badboy type.
>>92705371>Why isn't Elric Melnibone popular in 2024?There hasn't been a revival, recently. Amazon or Netflix will certainly get to it sooner or later. Chronicles of Amber is in development w/ Stephen Colbert as a producer, and you'll see all of this come back.
>>92718685It was the joke you idiot.
>>92705371They'll always be alive in stuff I do since I'm still mentally 14 and love inhuman edgelords
Rate this table I made for creating a misunderstood edgy loner swordmage anti-hero
>>92719352>Age: 10,000+ years old>Social status: Noble/royal bastard>Background: Hunter>Race: Dark Elf>Motivation: Knowledge>Hair color: Red>Eye color: Silver>Visual feature: Multiple piercings>Cursed item of great power: Sword>Source of mundane power: Trained by a mysterious order>Source of supernatural power: Tutored in spellcasting by a powerful wizardHmm
>>92717444>Detect Evil goes gingle - you're evil. Prepare to be purged.somebody needs to teach the crusaders about boners ASAP before they go slaughter the whorehouse
>>92719352protagonist of the next fantasy erotica hitting booktok? I wish
>>92719352>500-999 year old street urchin slaver vampire elf who seeks power.>White hair with black streaks, glowing gold eyes, with a distinctive birthmark and a cursed glove of great power.>He was trained by a mysterious order, and his supernatural power comes from a curse.How is one both a street urchin and a slaver?
>>92719352>1000 year old, slave, soldier, dark elf, motivated by lust, white hair, golden eyes, tattoos, ring, life in a cutthroat court of scheming nobles, bargain or deal with a dark powerMeliss vel-Grizz'k quickly rose in the ranks of the dark elven Maznorrian military. She was practically born to be a fighter, and her wiry build did nothing to diminish her great beauty. As a high-ranking soldier she was allowed many captive pleasure slaves. However, her beauty ended up backfiring on her, as she was set up to fail on a mission by a nobleman that wanted her for his own. For her failure she was branded and sentenced to slavery. She spent centuries in a drug-addled stupor. This came to an end when the humans, for once, struck back, and raided the noble house where she served. By a miracle she survived, and when the drugs wore off her head cleared. She found herself in the ruins of the noble's manse, and there she found a ring that housed a serpentine demon spirit of great power. In exchange for her soul in death, she was granted black magic, but she was marked with twisting serpentine tattoos running up and down the voluptuous curves of her nubile, onyx body.All she remembers of the raid is the face of one human man, an utter beefcake with sun-bronzed skin, rippling muscles and blazing eyes. Exiled, and consumed by lust for her unwitting savior, she sets forth from the Kingdoms Below, carving a bloody swathe through all obstacles with her curved greatsword and dark, ophidian magic to repay him in her own way. Along the way she has lots of raunchy sex. She wears a red spidersilk bikini and fights like a cackling lascivious demon to whom bones are just a suggestion. Rumors circulate on the surface about a golden-eyed elven witch of boundless lust, decadent mirth, and exotic beauty, death or misfortune to all she meets. There's a bounty on her both as a surface villain and an escaped slave.Not really edgy or alone enough, I think, but Lust is a group motivation.
>>92719602A lot of shit can happen in ten years, think about how much shit could happen in 500-999.
>>92719602>How is one both a street urchin and a slaver?Just because you started off on the streets doesn't mean you need to end there. Maybe life on the streets taught your character about natural hierarchies, power, and might makes right. Not too far of a jump to becoming a slaver when you have that kind of upbringing.
>>92719352Born into slavery over 5,000 years ago, with tattoos carved into his skin to forever remind all of his lowly origins, this black-haired dark elf with piercing silver eyes was adopted by a member of the nobility and given a second chance at life. This noble patriarch was a member of a mysterious order, and it was this very order which trained the young dark elf slave in various fighting styles and arcane lores. When his training had been completed, the former slave was subject to the initiation rite that all members of the order must endure: demonic possession.The goal of the rite was to prove one’s self-control and strength of will by mastering the demon or at the very least being able to pacify it. Those who could tap into the demon’s power and make it their own were those most highly-prized among the order and destined for greatness. With a diverse and dangerous skillset imparted upon him by the mysterious order he was now a member of, the dark elf man sought his fortune by taking on mercenary work. Driven by a thirst for power at all costs, the ex-slave was always seeking methods to increase his ability. This came to a head when he was opposed on the battlefield by a mighty warlord who drew immense power from a cursed gauntlet. Tapping into his demonic powers, the dark elf was able to slay the warlord. Claiming the gauntlet for himself, he found a new and terrible power to add to his repertoire: that of the a cursed gauntlet.
>>92712259>>92713568prove it.
>>92715296this poster is a pole
>>92705371I appreciate that someone realizes duckblade knife ear cripple is the actual Elric equivalent in Warcraft, not reverse Arthur that manages to share 0 features with the least manly of ECs.
>>92723384People who just look at the cursed runesword and declare them the same character have never actually read a Elric book.
>>92717994Outside of some narration in BM, Kain is far less the emo edgelord than Raziel pre defiance, but both still fall way deeper in the Conan side. Even if you ignore characterization, then they are already not in the same category as Elric and Drizzt by sheer virtue of the writing actually being good for the bulk of the series by which i mean everything but some blood omen 2 turn of the millennium era dialogue.
>>92712259I mean, he did say, imply and explicitly in reply letters write that EI is modeled directly after his belief in god/the Catholic interpretation of "The monotheistic deity".>>92713039Hack might be a bit harsh, he knows how to put ideas to paper and churn out enough of them. He just doesnt know how to write and keeps sucking his own dick over ideas he himself copied as well (or stuff like claiming that the crooked D&D reinterpretation of the full compass rose version chaos sign for Elric was his idea when we have the og artists in book credits and know from his own books that his was only copying the pure arrows which happens to have been sometimes intentionally overlaid on regions of the sea known to include pirates on trade maps such as those used by the italians (derogatory) as he would know having written and co authored on historical fiction projects that included mediterranean trade.LCD fart sniffer is more apt.
>>92723567I still hold that the original Elric stories are good enough for what they are and that the first prequel story is good but their was just way to much filler added in over time.
>>92723384Arthas is unironically just Darth Vader
>>92723729You've got it backwards. Before Arthas, Vader was just a space wizard and shitty dad with a mysterious past. After Arthas, Anakin was corrupted by ???? to become a shitty petulant loser and then a shitty dad.
all I remember about elric stories from my run with them as like an 8-10 year old boy is this scene where he's fuckin some chick and she conscience swaps him or something so that he's getting fucked by himself in her body
>>92718947>Netflix elric
>>92712994>whenever it's convenient.That is flagrantly untrue.Gygax said that paladins have the appropriate investment of being arbiters of justice to execute prisoners for crimes committed in absence of an established jurisprudence.That means if you catch bandits in the mountain, you can execute them for crimes of murder and rapine, without having to drag them to a town. The other side of this is if the paladin is WRONG, they will immediately Fall. Great power, responsibility.>>92712947I've rarely seen them played any other way. I think people take the memes at face value because Good Guy Greg paladins aren't ragebait worthy.
>>92726266>more like netflix Drizzt
>>92706806you may have missed part of the introduction which explains that the elf king regretted the bloodshed when they first unleashed the golden army. The point is that they understand that if they did commit a genocide they would not be worthy to rule and everything that was good about them would die anyway, so it is better to fade and leave a legacy of peace that man could learn from rather than perpetrate an act of war and genocide which would either wrongfully wipe out man or just cement them in their warlike ways and cause all fairy life to be purged (he already expends what, 3 species of fairy in his terror attacks).
>>92716060t. 'that guy'
>>92705371>Drizzt>forgottenI wish
>>92705371How about this guy?
>>92723729Yes, but it is well done.
Rolled 1, 4 + 3 = 8 (2d6 + 3)>>92719352Can /tg/ even roll this many different dice types at once?
>>92728917Guess not.
>>92723120>>92718744It's a shame that Legion retcon his entire history and ruined his character.
>>92713079yes, it makes sense.
>>92717994but he is a vampire, not an elf
>>92716979>Pre-Tolkienian dwarves were kobolds, elves were fairies, and orcs were demonsnope
>>927193528/8>>92719602>be (You)>street urchin>get kicked around a bunch>find out where homeless bully kids sleep>rat them out to local slaver for coin>decide to try your hand at bigger money>lure adults to slaver trap with cries for help>slavers take a liking to you, take you under wing, teach you slaving tradenot even that hard to imagine
>>92728917I used another dice rolling site
>>92707662>28 days later was in 2002>Dawn of the Dead was in 2004>Zombie media got a resurrection (ha!), slow, but steady>Absolute fucking explosion by 2011
>>92718660>>92718129>>92717994Why did he refuse the sacrifice?
>>92705377Truly loved it myself. Unique too.
>>92728238In 5e's PHB alone, Drizzt was made into the posterboy for elves, was mentioned in the description of drow two pages later as "the one drow who broke the mold" and credited as the in-universe role model of all other good drow, his friend was used as the tutorial for making a character, and there was at least one excerpt directly from the Drizzt books. Despite all of that, nobody actually gives a shit about Drizzt aside from committed anti-fans and people who think he's still marketable. It's almost impressive. Somehow, Drizzt has managed to become omnipresent yet---at the same time---utterly irrelevant to everyone except those few people who are still getting the rage out of their system from that one time someone came to their table with dual-wielding drow ranger Brizzt Bo'Urden 30 years ago.
>>92733619Its interesting, 5e as a product line had a massive sea change in 2018 when Crawford took complete creative control leading to among other things a rejection of established lore as important to the game design. 2018 was also the year when CR's second campaign started and the mass of people that was brought in by Stranger Things back in 2016 had a guidepost to orient around.This led to 5 years of vague lore and little focus on settings and it wasn't till this year that the new generation of D&D players got their Drizzt in (Insert BG3 charter here, Likely Astarion).Driz is old news and like you said a boogeyman. Forgotten due to the broken continuity of the playerbase.
>>92728993There's one character I know of from the Nibelungen called Hagen/Hogni who's supposedly a half elf yet his dad who's seen in this image is obviously dwarf sized so it might be a dokkalfar/svartalfar situation
>>92705371They're quite popular right now in my experience, you're probably just unfamiliar with zoomer medias.
>>92716060post beard
>>92718947Corwin isn't edgy, an elf or a wizard. I guess he's a swordsman.
>>92718947>Chronicles of Amber is in development w/ Stephen Colbert as a producerNo. God. No, God. Plazę, God, no. Wheel of time all over again.
>>92735995All of the princes are immortals who practically don't age, have superior strength and intelligence. They're elves for all intents and purposes.
>>92717444Even in-universe there are methods to fool magical alignment detection. Paladins are supposed to use their judgment, otherwise, they won't be able to smite an obvious succubus wearing Ring of Nondetection as she doesn't ping on detect evil.
>>92736138>intelligenceGerard and Flora are retards
>>92728933Illidan was supposed to be a nuanced character, but Blizzard cannot write nuance.
>>92728933Oh noes, they ruined a cardboard cartoon character!
>>92736254Legion sort of saved him after the idiocy of Burning Crusade.
>>92736273Wut happened? Blizz's writing was in the toilet by the time of Wrath; I can't imagine how badly it had gotten after introducing Chinese Kung Fu pandas.
>>92736276Weirdly, MoP was the best expansion. I think it's because Blizzard not giving a shit about continuity wasn't a problem with it, since it was all a new continent.Battle for Azeroth was shit, though, and Shadowlands was somehow worse than shit.
>>92736286>this flavour of shit is worse than that flavour of shitHave you considered writing a book, "Confessions of an American shit-eater"?
>>92736286Legion was the best expansion. MoP was a weird filler episode that came out of nowhere and was promptly forgotten afterwards.
>>92716774>but more classy archetypesLike what?
>>92736286Shadowlands felt like the current writing team's unapologetic hate letter to everything WoW was before them
>>92736320Not until you said that.>>92736324Legion had some cool moments, but the environments were a bit bland and samey, which is a shame because distinct and memorable environments are one of my favorite parts of WoW. Azsuna and Suramar especially looked more alike and had more themes in common than I would have preferred.>>92736329I'm pretty sure one of the writers was actually writing to spite Sylvanas' VA for breaking up with him.
>>92736380>I'm pretty sure one of the writers was actually writing to spite Sylvanas' VA for breaking up with him.BASED?!
>>92736216Gerard and Flora are fools only compared to their siblings. Not stupid, just less smart.
>>92736988Gerard was a well-intentioned idiot who got in the way of the heroes every step of the way and personally nursed the main villain back to full health. That's a retard by any definition. Flora is a vapid blonde who had one job in the entire saga and gloriously failed it.
>>92736324Legion was shit and where the story really started leaning into Marvelesque BS in addition to beginning the Sylvanas fellation saga.
>>92738495>girl>fellatioBased mong
>>92739284every female in wow is a futasorry I don't make the rules
>>92729692Because he had two bad options and he chose the one where he was still around to try again through time fuckery.Funnily enough in the grand scheme of things? Kane was right to go with his gut, self-sacrifice would've been the worst possible move for everyone.The Elder God, despite all his planning, made a single mistake in his aeons old plan.Choosing the worlds most selfish asshole as his catspaw.
>>92705377Those movies were just a joy
>>92719352Nigger
>>92729692>Why did he refuse the sacrifice?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7SQ2Wu6PvI
I've talked about this before with people but I feel like there's a real problem with modern players wanting to play the special snowflake character but unable to handle any of the negative aspects that may go with it. So instead of being the stoic silent stranger they become the rainbow sparkle demon. They want to be loved universally everywhere even when playing as *heck* spawn and will cry if someone so much looked at them cross eyed. Back then you had dudes playing guys like Drizz't or D and yeah they were always "popular" but they were also on varying levels in universe pariahs. Their friends an allies like them but you'd walk into a new town and the bar tender would be all "We don't serve your kind here" and the player would think it's cool that NPCs thought they were dangerous or whatever. Now everyone expects to show up and get a parade just for being there when before you may just walk away knowing you reached one person.
>>92718947>Chronicles of Amber is in development w/ Stephen ColbertJamie Foxx as BrandTessa Thompson as FionaIdris Elba as Bleys
>>92706245he's Elric but without the badly written parts
>>92745848Instead, every part is written badly.
>>92745850go to bed, Michael
>>92718737Elric is a subversion of Conan. Instead of a strong barbarian who wins a kingdom through his might you have a weakling sorcerer who loses his kingdom by being too cerebral and trusting for his own good. Once that subversion made a big enough of an impact on fantasy culture, maybe there wasn't a pressing need to recreate it. Also, the core Elric stories, being released as they were in the '60s and '70s, came before the big trend of edginess, and I think they hit different as a result. If they were written nowadays (and, I'd image, to some who read them today), I think they might seem less compelling. By way of illustration, I have a brother who's not particularly into fantasy stuff and when the LotR movies came out, he was mocking them for being super cliched with generic elves, dwarves, orcs and shit. So I think context does matter.
>>92745824>BrandDomhnall Gleeson>FionaEmma Stone>BleysMichael FassbenderBut I'm 90% sure they're going to cast a bunch of no-talent no-name Brits as per usual.
>>92744688People want the cool parts and want them immediately. I used to be like that too.My fav character, and he didn't start as my fav at all because it sucked for a long time, and also the fav character of my GM was a monk in 3.PF. I got really good stats and decided to play one thinking it would be amazing he even started as the cocky LN who thinks he's better than everyone...the reality it sucked for the longest, specially because I didn't know what to do with him, he even had a couple of levels in fighter. Also in the story had a lot of fuckups but he kept standing up. Survived two nearly TPKs, ended losing an arm and an eye and later getting replacements (clockwork arm and fire elemental eye), got PTSD and survivors guilt, his alignment changed to LG because he now refuses to let anyone die and always gets involved helping people, etc. Took 5 years (several hiatus) and now he's at 14th level and he can act as the stoic cool character, he earned it (also course corrected him through the levels and now he doesn't suck mechanically)
>>92705371Demographic and cultural shift, the new wicked specie is teifling
>>92706368Why do you faggots still talk like we're competing with Tumblr circa 2013? >snowflakes amirite basedbros xD
>>92705488>>92705500This was literally 9 years ago bro.
>>92747970Keep reading. >>92708135>>92729512
>>92712220You're a fucking retard like I haven't seen in years, congratulations
>>92748718thanks
The Witcher is the exact same archetype as OP lmao why on earth do you guys think it isn't still popular
>>92718947>Chronicles of AmberAs long as he doesn't get his dirty hands on LOTR, he is apparently a huge fan
>deleted post>deleted post>deleted postThe policing janny is becoming annoying.
>>92727849Drizz't comes from an ontologically evil race, he'll be white on Netflix or Amazon Prime.
>>92705371always hated this archetype
>>92739333Only the dreanei
Dunno earlier in my rpg days i would always go for those types, nowadays i always make my characters gay if not at least bi
>>92747970Dune 2 came out this year retard.
>>92750345Stop posting.
>Age: 1,000>Social status: Adopted by nobility/former slave>Background: Criminal>Race: Half Elf>Motivation: Power>Hair color: White with black streaks (this is the one that really made me cringe>Eye color: Blue>Visual feature: Scars>Cursed item of great power: Tome>Source of mundane power: Trained by a mysterious order>Source of supernatural power: Bargain or deal with a dark powerThis made me cringe real hard, and it seems like a character this kid I hated in middle school would've made, so I guess you get a 10/10 on this.
>>92750251same
>>92716979>Pre-Tolkienian dwarves were EgyptianFixed
>>92751536>>92719352Rolling again cus I fucked that up, and I like rolling shit up.>Age: 5,000 (got a 6 first, and there is none, so reroll?)>Social status: Street Urchin>Background: Gladiator>Race: Dark Elf>Motivation: Escape>Hair color: Silver>Eye color: Red (Glowing)>Visual feature: Burn Mark>Cursed item of great power: Necklace or bracelet>Source of mundane power: Trained by a mysterious order>Source of supernatural power: Tutored in spellcasting by a powerful wizardThis guy seems a little cooler and more like a sword and sorcery character from the 90s than a hot topic character from the 2000s I guess.
