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>Previously:
>>92729966

>TQ
Favorite 1 mana spell?
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>>92737845
:^)
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>TQ
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>>92737845
Best designed card. Filters shit decks, bad players and has the perfect balance (early very good, late very bad)
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>>92737995
Forgot Pic
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>>92737845
Nice 3 mana spells everyone is posting
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>>92734483
>https://magic.wizards.com/en/formats/brawl
>Deck size
>100

NOBODY LIKES THIS COMMANDER BULLSHIT FUCKOFF WOTC
Brawl as a 60 card format was the best "edh" interaction and they are ruinning it. Im done with magic, when the commander bullshit stops I will return otherwise i don't care
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Is Lost Jitte good?
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>>92738102
No. Specially if you compare it with actual Jitte.
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>>92738102
It's good in Pioneer. Untap land is stronk.
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>>92737845
UNBAN
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>>92738156
That's a 0 mana spell, anon, they asked for 1 mana spells.
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>Commander is . . . LE BAD!
>Commander but 1v1 with rotations and meta-chasing is . . . LE GOOD!
This opinion tells me you're too much of a bitch for Standard and too much of a tryhard for Commander
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>>92738102
I like it as a one-of in standard aggro decks, but it's a pretty tame card, it makes you work for it to be good
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>>92738100
anon we ended this conversation already. you look pathetic
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>>92738127
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>>92738102
potentially making a 3rd karnstruct with urza's saga is pretty good
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literally my favorite memory of all time was blindly naming jtms in a legacy event and hitting 2 of them
i peaked in magic 3 years ago, bros
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>>92738102
no its so fucking shit on so many levels
you can make one creature unblockable against one blocker, only if it connects first somehow, wahoo
you can pay 2 mana and connect with a creature each turn to get a mana dork? lmao just play the irencrag
you get a counter are you shitting me if you played bill burr you'd get 1-2 counters per turn, a 2/2 base body and a lategame ability that doubles your team repeatably
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>>92738247
this will be reprinted to modern in mh3
trust the plan
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>>92738261
i'd cum
>cabal therapy name solitude
>sac stithcer's supplier to name something i saw in your hand
i think cephalid coliseum was in a leak too
dredgebros we are so back
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>>92738261
Is one of the pieces that could make Dredge be good again... And i'm all for that because i really want Dredge back
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>>92737914
Kinda messed up how this has Leyline in the name but you can't open with it in play to o-ring a Leyline your opponent opened with.
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Casual newb here: I want to build a Dimir control deck but with Surg/Extirp/Thought/Duress/Infernal Grasp do I even need blue? Who needs counter spells when you just remove the spells you'd want to counter anyways. Is it too obnoxious to just make my opponent chuck cards (at a casual table)?
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>>92738365
you have two paths to go here
dimir mil or mono black discard aka 8 rack
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>opponent plays a thoughtseize effect to take the one combo piece I need
>I play otherworldly gaze twice, set up my library so I'll draw into that combo piece on my next turn
>sure enough he plays another thoughtseize effect, whiffs
>....
>plays a mill 1 effect and puts that combo piece in my graveyard and now I'm drawing blind
>my turn
>untap
>....
>draw 3rd copy of it off the top, win the game on the spot
Blessed be thy shuffler
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>>92738102
10/10 fetchable with Urza's Saga
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the full quintorius deck is in explorer sans dromoka
any reason i shouldnt just build it if i want to practice goldfishing it for paper?
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>>92738442
because explorer is too fast of a format for it and its too durdly
even standard let alone explorer has carnosaur combo which is 1 mana more expensive, but only takes 4 combo cards in the list (molten duplication) and can run 30 pieces of interaction since carnosaur itself is a removal spell. Doesn't have to run a bunch of clones that are dead in hand
how much interaction do the explorer quintorius lists get away with? just 4x leyline bindings, 4x carnosaurs? ouch
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>>92738442
assuming you understand what you're getting into, go for it
to me, the deck got boring very quickly, at least until I switched to the gyruda version, which has less results posted online, but I find it more enjoyable
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>>92738442
The deck is boring, linear and as you say incomplete, beware you will be just casting the elephant and winning or be destroyed by fast damage, hand disruption or infinite counters, but on the wright side even without Dromoka you can scam victories so if you like that you should go for it.
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>>92738177
>tryhard in commander
>ignoring that every commander deck has to play
20+ ish staples cards
Anon, commander is shit. Also >>>/tg/edhg
>>92738197
also we know this is you too
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>>92738177
Coomander pests should all fuck off and never try to compare real Magic with that casual shitstain lie.
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>>92738688
Commander makes up the 90% of Magic. Meaning it is real Magic, and everything else is just 60 card formats in Magic.
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if only it were actually possible to play casual 60 card constructed in paper
if you want to brew at all you need to play commander, otherwise it's gay meta net decks or get stomped every game
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The sheer amount of mental gymnastics commander haters use to gatekeep commander players from "their" threads is disgusting.
>>92738665
>has to play
lol. lmao.
Minimum 1. Maybe know what you're talking about before you try shitting out the runny garbage you call a post.
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Another day, another bunch of SSS decks crushing Pioneer.
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>>92738665
>20+ ish staples cards
Name the 20 staples that go in every commander deck

>>92738688
Type that again without sounding like you got raped by Commander players
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>>92738906
Sol Ring, Eternal Witness, that 2 mana red goblin that makes 10 treasure tokens, Swords, fetchlands, cantrips. If I could be fucked finding card names I would.
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>>92738906
sol ring
arcane signet
fellwar stone
command tower
exotic orchard
swiftfoot boots
lightning greaves
reliquary tower
path of ancestry
commander's sphere
mind stone
solemn simulacrum
thought vessel
skullclamp
chromatic lantern
relevant ravnica signets
relevant talismans
lotus petal

yes, these literally go in every single deck regardless of color
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>>92738872
Good. SSS decks play good honest magic, none of that broken combo shit, no hand hate.
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>>92738997
>swiftfoot boots
>lightning greaves
my commander is a planeswalker
my commander is a grand calcutron
my commander is one of the few legend of arena ever printed

>reliquary tower
>commander's sphere
>mind stone
>solemn simulacrum
>thought vessel
>chromatic lantern
>relevant ravnica signets
>relevant talismans
my commander is low to the ground and mana pip intense and doesn't draw a bunch of cards I'd have leftover in hand
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>>92739056
Why are you gay like this?
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>>92738955
>Eternal Witness
This goes in my esper deck?

>2 mana red goblin
This goes in my abzan deck?

>Swords
This goes in my rakdos deck?

>fetchlands
These go in my monowhite deck?

>>92738997
>command tower
This goes in my monored deck?

>lightning greaves
This goes in my voltron deck?

>chromatic lantern
>relevant ravnica signets
>relevant talismans
These go in my monogreen deck?
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THIS JUST IN

LIGHTNING BOLT IS NOT A MODERN STAPLE BECAUSE NOT EVERY DECK RUNS RED
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I want Mill to be viable in all formats besides fuckig Modern.
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exceptions prove the rule
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>>92739076
why tho
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>TQ
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>>92739058
>every deck needs to run an aggro commander they need to protect
>every deck needs mana rocks

why are you like this?
some decks are low curve and fast
some decks use their commander slot as a big spell and might even want to purposefully kill their own commander so they can cast it repeatably
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>>92739121
Just because some decks want to do weird shit doesn't disprove that some cards are staples in EDH. Are you seriously going to tell me that Thoughtseize and Push aren't Pioneer staples because Phoenix doesn't run them? The fuck do you think "staple" means? What a ridiculous discussion with an incredibly dishonest person, fuck off somewhere else.
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>>92737918
I really dislike when WotC just dumps keywords on cards. Like, this is already an interesting card, but why does he have deathtouch? Looking at the illustration and thinking about the concept, why would this little desperado have that ability? It's clear that they just put it on there to make him more mechanically powerful to befit his status as a "rare" card, but to me that takes away from the purity of the card. And if I see too much of it I lose interest in the set as a whole.
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>>92739076
Rate my idea for a card

Raggedy Ann {U}
Legendary Artifact Creature - Construct (M)
Whenever Raggedy Ann deals combat damage to a player, create a powerstone token and that player mills 4 cards. Until end of turn, you may cast a permanent spell from among the milled cards and a spell cast this way becomes an artifact in addition to its other types.
Ninjutsu {U}
2/1
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>>92739056
Be genuine, retard.
>>92738997
There are so many decks that in no way need these cards. I think Solemn Simulacrum, Sol Ring, Commander's Sphere, Chromatic Lantern, and Lightning Greaves are pretty accurate though.
Lands aren't taking up space that other things would occupy; when they're replacing one of the 20 or so cards with the same name in your deck, its hard to say that them being staples is bad.
>yes these literally go in every single deck regardless of color
That's just wrong. Monocolor can't run the talismans or signets and doesn't want command tower because that's just a nonbasic basic at that point.
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>>92739260
>my brain shit itself and said lightning greaves instead of swiftfoot boots
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>>92737845
What the fuck
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Will MtG become cool again or is it dead?
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There's actually a faggot in here arguing that format staples literally aren't a thing.
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>>92739525
Dead as fuck until WOTC inevitably dies and some other company picks up the IP.
Let's hope its someone who gives a shit.
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>>92738997
Over half of these don't even see play at all in cEDH lol.
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>>92739525
It can't be cool when it's too fucking expensive for anyone but middle class adults to play
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>>92739561
just because wotc is cancer doesn't mean most other companies aren't the turbo aids we already know them to be

MTGA is so dead it can't even keep a general active and MTG esports has less viewership than roblox or world of tanks
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>>92737845
Why is Ugin throwing piss at Bolas?
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>>92739697
West Vryn Priest is missing flash, flying and ward - 4, but otherwise spot on
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>>92739535
are you sure it's not one of the cumandeers?
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>>92739709
he's using magic to clean his hand after the fact
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Oh, there's another Secret Lair and Karona's in it. This is the first time Karona's had new art I think? Actually her first ever reprint even.
Shame the card sucks.
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>>92739697
Arena is fine.
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>>92739771
It's.... legible (for a s*cret lair) at the very least
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>>92739771
The only thing i remember about karona is playing a game of edh against her in like 2010 where we just used the karona to kill the player with general damage in the turn cycle he played her.
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>>92739771
For reference, it's two Secret Lairs in this similar sort of style. First is Tezzeret the Seeker, Griselbrand, Grenzo, Havoc Raiser and Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker. Second one is OG Vorinclex, Karona, OG Korvold and Memnarch.
Bolas joins the "fuck trains in particular" club.
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oh my god my cards have gone down by so much...
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>>92739808
>Bolas reprint
>Ugin getting mentioned in MH3
>Dragonstorm arc up next
Please god don't make /edhg/ shitposter an actual leaker.
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>>92739076
So, Urza's block power level? Got it, let me get Tolarian Academy into the printer, Bloomburrow special guest.
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>>92739841
Eh, I think it was more just reprinting notable villains who didn't get a fair shake in OTJ as-is. Tezzeret was NOTABLY absent, all things considered.
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>>92739714
>ward
FIRE hadn't advanced that far yet circa Eldraine 1.0
card creatures still died 1:1 to sorcery speed removal without giving you card advantage, you might just take 4 haste damage from a 4 drop so what
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>>92739841
You WILL read about gay incestuous dragons and you WILL like it.
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Ward -- Phase out.
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>>92738273
Here's your cabal therapy moderncucks
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>>92739830
i was infinite on modo and still lost money because of reprints tanking my deck value. anyone playing this game is a cuck
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>>92739525
they need to go back on everything theyve done for the lat 10 years and imiatete themselves from 20 years ago to be cool again
they need to pull what wwe did this year
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>>92739903
ward costs have to be templated as an action your opponents perform
its why something as simple as

>'ward that makes the creature's owner gain life' to discourage aggro
is hard to do, like:

>Friendly Geist
>Ward - Friendly Geist's controller gains 3 life
even that is kind of wonky because it turns the action of {you} giving {your opponent} life, as a cost, which has never been done and causes real odd rules quirks. We have "pay life" covered pretty well, but not "pay giving opponent life"
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>>92739936
thanks now give us doomsday
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>>92739936
Is he watching Keanu Reeves bang an ovulating Connie Nielsen?
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Ward - This permanent's controller may search their library for 5 cards and add them to their hand.
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>>92737192
it is done
now watch this shit get reprinted literally tomorrow lmao
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>>92739830
buy better cards, my deck's way up over time
It would be higher but moxfield doesn't show FBB prices
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>>92740042
ah shit this was not /edh/
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>>92740049
THIS NIGGA PLAYIN EDH
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>>92739962
>my opp has to phase out
I like my idea and you are policing my fun :(
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>>92737845
>Favorite 1 mana spell?
lightning bolt
fav 1 mana creature is pic related tho
>>92739970
what good is doomsday without fast mana? give us a black ritual first.
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Why does Wizards usually host Pro Tours like a week or two after the corresponding set's release? It's such a short amount of time. The players haven't had too much time to really come to term with the cards yet, which could be intentional, but it also means the audience is even less familiar with the cards, and that there's a huge advantage to already established pro players with teams to grind and research with during the run up to the tournament.
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>>92737845
>tq
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>>92740079
should be like:


>Erased From Time {12UUU}
>Sorcery (M)
>Target player phases out (Because that player skips their turn while phased out, they never have an untap step and never phase back in)
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>be gold shitter in MTGA
>opps always use their removal/counters on bait cards

What rank do they stop taking bait?
>DUDE U CNT TALK SHT UR GOLD MEANS UR SHYT TOO I BET YOU FALL 4 BAYT CRDZ 222

I never once claimed to be good, I am simply asking a question
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>>92739697
Aside from countering this how would you deal with it, would things like Depopulate take it out or would you have to swing in hopes they sac it (I don't know why anyone would do this).
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>>92739697
>MTG esports

>top down view of cards
>commentators mumbling
>players constantly fucking with the cards in their hands
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>>92740243
never, arena players are mentally retarded, all of them.
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>>92740235
I want it on a geen eldrazi ooze.
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>>92740243
Wouldn't it be great if MTGA had a chat function, so your friendly opponents could help explain to you how cards work, what kinds of plays you missed and other tips and helpful commentary so you'd better appreciate the game?
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>>92740286
Just from my observation it doesn't seem like there's any skill in climbing. Just spamming games and hoping your opp gets mana fucked instead of you. Maybe it changes beyond plat but considering mono red has been top deck, according to untapped, that's probably not the case.
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>>92740295
nah, it should have a chat so that i can see people raging and getting themselves banned for saying nigger.
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>>92740295
>>92740311
I bet if MTGA had chat the toxicity would rival league of legends.
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>>92740243
Wdym bait cards? Every card you play should be good so it can do something in case it doesn't get removed.
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>>92740322
it has to get chat if they want to put edh on it
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>>92740351
If you know they have counters or removal you're not gonna drop a big hitter just for it to get popped instantly, you drop some other shit, let them waste their spells and then drop your big card(s).
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>>92740351
Wow bro you're so good
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>>92739808
>Memnarch
Oh fuck, they are ruining our guy too?
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>>92738102
Perfect for my commander deck!
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>>92740425
It's literally a reprint in a Secret Lair.
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Don't daze me bro
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>>92739697
There are posters in this thread who unironically think this card would not be a problem in game.
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https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/69021364/
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>>92740310
You could in theory have a 99% loss-win ration and still climb, since once you achieve a rank you can't go down (you can only move up and down within the reached rank) as long as you lose the majority of games when you rank up and then have a long winning streak you can reach mythic, nothing makes sense in that game, it's just there to scam money.
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>>92740448
>Forever tainting his image with oficial dumb art
>It's literally a reprint in a Secret Lair.
fuck off

Glad that we U-tron chads stopped playing this game. Wotc doesn't deserve our money.
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>>92740311
>cavern of souls naming noggle
>cavern of souls naming rigger
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>>92740457
do NOT click this is a virus
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>>92740457
pioqueer is the most pathetic format ever made, imagine getting scammed by WotC to slurp their rusty cum off standardshit cards nobody wanted to use.
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>>92740295
You can already feel the seething neckbeard rage through the screen without chat. If there was chat 90% of players would be banned within a week. "Serious" MTG players are the absolute worst of the worst of petty angry nerds. We're talking about a game where crybaby faggots will try to make you quit by going AFK when they lose. You really think any of them are gonna be like: "Hey dude, that was a great play! I sure flubbed this one ha ha good game we should play another! What's your discord?"
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>>92740457
imagine how the pioneer 2 general is gonna look like a few years from now
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>>92740322
Except MTGO's chat isn't that bad???
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>>92740506
MTGO is for boomers and people who can make monthly payments
Arena is zoomers and manchildren who struggle with FOMO
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>>92739152
>why does he have deathtouch?
so you don't block it
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>>92740526
Why do you care about zoomers and manchildren being retards?
>UHHH WE NEED TO BEND THE INTERNET TO CATER TO THEM
Or just shut the fuck up and ignore the dumbshits.
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>spend $500 on rptq snapcasters
>they're $40/each now
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>>92739152
>And if I see too much of it I lose interest in the set as a whole.
Shut the fuck up paypig and put your money down like we know you're going to.
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>>92740405
>you drop some other shit, let them waste their spells and then drop your big card(s).
and by the time you do that they've drawn more removal and are preparing to drop a virtue or portal
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>>92740526
Arena looks so much better, you don't have to rent shit and has a mobile client (although shit) so you can play during your break9s) at work or while driving down the freeway.
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>>92740562
>or while driving down the freeway.
is this why some of you fags take forever with your turns?
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>>92740562
>planesdriver spark ignited
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>>92740580
if you're playing some faggot shit I'm going to rope every turn and make you suffer too.
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>>92740562
playing arena is the last thing I want to do during my break lmao
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And this is why we run 4x fading hope 4x alchemists retrieval

>2x monstrous rages and demonic ruckus for 20 damage in the air
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>>92739936
The fact that they thought this card would be good (and the Oko debacle) makes me think that the people currently designing mtg are terrible at the game.
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>>92740555
I will but that does not remove my right to criticize artistic and thematic choices
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i hate bowmasters
i hate grief
i hate the ring
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Here are the facts:

Arena is better than MTGO, far more playable and more played
Arena is still dogshit
Arena interface is mediocre, MTGO interface is awful
Arena economy is like getting punched in the dick, MTGO interface is like getting your dick bitten off
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>>92740539
KWATB
(Kek What A Triggered Bitch)
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I'm going to try doing vintage cube draft on MTGO for the first time, any tips?
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>>92740626
have fun
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>>92740450
Wasteland was a mistake
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>>92740626
Although I hate him as a person, LSV has some good videos on his youtube channel about VCD.
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>>92740622
It's sucks because they're both trash but if you want to play MTG without having to interact with or be around other people those are really your only options.
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>>92740609
What you call "criticism" in the money-making world is calling "nothing" because companies can just ignore you while you continue giving them money.
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>>92740606
I truly wonder how could that be possible
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>>92740632
He played 3 and I won that game on 1 life but lost the match
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>>92740632
Wasteland is perhaps my favorite card, it's one of the things keeping fair magic viable in legacy.
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https://youtu.be/sGlTh_dY3wc
It's up
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>>92740469
What game do U Tron chads play now?
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>>92740642
>Waaaah waaaah stop spending your disposable income on things you enjoy waaaah y-y-youre a consoomer for owning things!!! You're supposed to have nothing and be happy with it
Seethe and cope
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>>92740622
>>92740639
Arena is pretty good for a present day video game desu. It has its flaws but its a solid 7/10 game
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>>92740692
seeing old people doing stuff makes me feel uncomfortable
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>>92740714
>It has its flaws but its a solid 7/10 game
I would really like to know what other games you consider a 7/10 because I think that's way too high.
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>>92740716
You're gonna be old soon anon, better get used to it.
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>>92740654
if it was a 3/1 flying flash for 3 it would be almost playable in a mutate shell
I mean it would still probably get blown out by removal at instant speed but if they tapped out, you could flash it in on their end step, mutate something else on top of it on your turn and churn out the value
instead they made it cost 4 and it was too damn slow
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>>92738775
Go back to being a pedophile coomander player
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>22 minute video
>not even a fucking deck list in the description

Disliked and reported
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>>92739064
Yes probably
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>>92740692
Poor guy, the dementia is creeping in and he can't help but misplay
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Plot is just much scarier than foretell
Who cares if the card is revealed

When someone plots a card, they aren't behind on tempo, they can cast it the next turn and get its busted effect on curve, no additional mana spent. The opponent needs to hold up mana for interaction out of fear they'll die on the next turn to a big blowout from plotted triggers, but this frees up the plot player to cast more spells or plot more cards and get ahead on tempo, while the opponent is left holding their dick and can't even cast the removal they held onto, their mana wasted
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>>92738261
Plz no. I'm already sick of Scam running 8 Thoughtseize effects (that plays out like 10-12)
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>>92740831
I'ma plot deez nutz in ur mouf lmao
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Paired up against some random Mono Red player. First off, I love smoking the Red decks lol because usually they get pissed and act like babies. This fella started out playing very aggressive but once I locked the game down you can see a change in his behavior - constant ropes, delaying and stalling lol
This is why I play control. Just to see these kids rage is payment enough lol.
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>>92740840
>running 8 Thoughtseize effects
>opp has all oif them in their hand with in the first 2 turns

After the 2nd I just scoop.
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>>92740856
Stop shilling your video here old man, I would say you're raging more considering you made a whole ass 22 minute video about it with your 24 subs lmao
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>>92740872
Mono red baby detected lol
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Remember when you could draft without there being 2-4 rares every pack to make this shit even more luck based?
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>>92740903
I do play a fair bit of MR but when I realize the games lost I gg go next.
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Two Fucking Mindslavers {12}
Legendary Artifact
{8},{T}: Sacrifice Two Fucking Mindslavers: You control target player during that player's next two turns.
"Holy fucking shit" - Emrakul, the Promised End
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>>92740637
What's wrong with LSV? I don't know much about the pro scene.
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>>92740969
He's in general just an asshole, he's gotten super up his ass
Also left his wife and kids to get with a twitch e-thot
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>>92740969
Lost weight and cheated on his black wife he had a son with to move on to a young infertile cum dumpster wife. Then he gained the weight back.
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>>92740985
>left his wife and kids to get with a twitch e-thot
based
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>>92740697
Can't talk about the other guys but I have returned to paint and play W40k (it has been cheaper than mtg and have been more fun, and has less bullshit)
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>>92740985
>>92740988
Interesting, I didn't know about his relationships. People seem to think his ex-wife was pretty nuts, and he still apparently has his kid in his life to some degree, but that all seems fair otherwise. I just saw some references to him potentially having cheated (in-game, that is) or having been involved in some vaguely sketchy events in the scene.
>young infertile cum dumpster wife
I mean, that part sounds ideal if you already have a kid and don't want another

Sucks to hear about this, but I'll probably watch any of his content that sticks out to me in the future, because he's funny and explains enough of what he's doing that I feel like I'm learning things. The only other people I've tried watching for MTG stuff were the Tolarian prof, who I found insufferably narcissistic and trying-to-be-funny-but not, a video from Spice8Rack which also failed at humor and was also 30% social/political commentary, and then Reid Duke. Reid is great, but I don't recall him making many jokes, and unfortunately I find humor improves my enjoyment of MTG gameplay videos a lot.
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>>92741164
Reid duke is one of the few genuinely nice people in the scene, definitely makes good videos.
I used to watch Rich Shay, but he logged off when they banned Jihad (among other things).
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Why we have so many Arena zoomers here today? /vg/ shit thread died again?
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>>92741200
Nobody is making new threads, and I don't care to do it anymore.
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>>92741200
the /vg/ thread keeps dying because there's one schizo who keeps shitting it up
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another gamer just realized what cornucopia does the hard way

his board is a tinybones, a suspected skeleton token and a forsaken miner, I killed anything bigger than 2 power and let him keep 5 damage per turn and he's seen 2x go for the throat + the end in hand because of bats so he's not playing out his bigger threats either
but here I am gaining 7+ life per turn from 2x cornucopias and intimidation campaign that I was bouncing with field of ruin and unlicensed hearse
I was still at 22 life and he just conceded with 4 cards in hand
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>>92740548
KWAB
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>>92740548
>using anything other than innistrad snapcasters
literally deserved lol
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>paying 500 currencies for cardboard
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>>92741392
u coping poor boy?
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>>92741198
His departure post was an interesting read, although sadly it seems he doesn't really have any content up on YouTube to check out. I suppose there never might have been much, as it says he was a Twitch streamer.
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>>92740632
>Wasteland was a mistake
t.
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>>92740622
How can Arena be more playable when it has no formats worth playing?
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>>92741552
>standard
>explorer
>brawl

I count 3 playable formats
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>>92741562
i count 0
we are not the same
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>streamer who plays this game as a job to produce content and gets paid for it
>posts clips where he's in gold rank on MTGA

>random anon shitskin with a paypig avatar who pays for his gayming experience
>posts pics on /tg/ where he's in mythic

makes you think
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>>92741596
well he knows basic math
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>>92741620
>download arena last thursday
>have maybe 10h of playtime
>diamond 4 with incomplete budget red deck missing cards beacuse wildcards are hard to get outside of your first hour because of all the free packs in the mail
>watch random arena videos in bed
>they make horrendous misplays and say 'haha maybe we can get to gold this season with this deck it seems pretty OP'
actually pisses me off these retards think their content is worth putting out there to see, i stop the video and block the channel when they do dumb shit like bolting the creature after combat
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>>92740628
>>92740637
I ended up with this which I imagine is far too greedy but it was fairly fun and I didn't really get punished, with Elspeth winning some games.. Third pack 3rd pass had Minsc, 3 Oko, Chandra Torch of Defiance and Grist. Ended up 1-2. Last game was against a soul cauldron deck and I found it impossible to account for everything he could do with the cauldron, including messing up my Oko use. Could have won if I stole the cauldron.
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>>92741665
https://www.youtube.com/@LegenVD
this guy gets 125k subscribers and videos with 30-40k views each
then you click on it and see he's in gold rank when the game will put you at minimum in platinum rank after a season ends
the only way you can even be in gold rank is if you didn't hit mythic in a previous season

so a content creator who's actual job is to play magic (and makes more money doing it than esports players) is a lowbob
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>>92741792
there must be so many brazilians watching this shit
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>opp somehow on T3 has a board full of fucking 7/7s
>meanwhile I have 2 lands and all 3+ mana cards

great fucking game.
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>>92741851
Sounds like a skill issue
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>>92741851
Sounds like a skill issue. There's nothing stopping you from doing what he did.
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>>92741851
sounds like opponent is cheating, you should report them to wizards
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>mulligan
>put a land back
>don't draw a single one the entire rest of the match
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>>92741941
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>jitte randomly spiking in price on mtgo
the investors are already starting to reveal their hand bros
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>aplaying historic
>opp drops soul warder t1
>scoop
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>playing standard
>opp drops kumano t1
>scoop
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>playing legacy
>opp drops grief t1
>scoop
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>playing modern
>opp drops grief t1
>scoop
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>playing vintage
>opp drops 20 different cards t1 and kills me
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Proposal: Evolving Wilds but it's a Companion and it costs 1 mana and discard a card to add to your hand.
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>1 month to MH3
>2 months to ACR
>3 months to BLB
I didn't realize that we were getting a new set every month damn
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>>92742156
counterproposal

Artificial Plane
Land - Waste
({T}: Add {C})
{1}: Artificial Plane becomes the basic land type of your choice in addition to its other types.
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In addition to playing magic I take great enjoyment in watching women poop.
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>>92742205
In addition to playing magic I take great enjoyment in throatfucking women while other women look on and touch themselves
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>>92737845
For me?
It's gotta be noble Zephyr Gull
*seagull noises upon entering the battlefield*
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>faced a Merfolk deck in historic
>it did fuck all but was pretty cool

I didn't even know that was a thing, I'm going to have to create it for myself.
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>>92742156
would this do anything to the game?
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>>92741227
kill yourself, troon
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>>92742050
>>92742090
>>92742139
>>92742148
>>92742153
>playing 4chan
>opp makes 4 posts instead of 1
>scoop
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>>92742255
Makes two-landers keepable.
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>TQ

aether vial because cretur stronk
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What was your personal favorite set or block, and why?
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>>92741200
I made another thread on /vg/ if anyone cares
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Vintage cube is like the biggest point sink on MTGO, legit can't 3-0 one fucking time
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>>92742337
That's a lucky draw your opp got
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>>92742337
Needs more Arboreal Grazer.
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>>92742301
evolving wilds is still a shitty land
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>>92742397
That's why he's #56
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I showed up to one FNM a bit drunk and was kicked out because I got a bit "loud", I left without issue. I guess someone called the cops on me because I got pulled over shortly after leaving, maybe 5 minutes, and now I got a fucking DUI and a no trespass. I must have dropped no less than $1500 at that fucking shop and this is what they do. I didn't realize magic players were such petty cunts.
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>>92742442
>Driving while drunk
>Ruining other people's time out
NGMI
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>>92742397
Not particularly, red can kill you on turn three with like a dozen different draws.
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>>92742408
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>>92742491
If 3/4 of the opponents hand are pretty much any 3 of the red 1 mana pump/burn spells it would do it in any combination. 2 mana spells like lightning strike and any creatures would not do it, no foretold SSS here
pretty much choose any permutation of play with fire, ancestral anger, monstrous rage, mirran banesplitter, burn together, the shittier pump spells

ie lightning strike + monstrous rage would be 15 damage in that board state, but play with fire + monstrous rage + burn together would be 16, monstrous rage + 2x banesplitter would be 21
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>this card is 10 years old now
it's so fucking over
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>>92740548
WotC: reprint equity lol
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How the fuck does every dinosaur deck have like 8 fucking 6+ creatures out turn 4? How the fuck do you even counter that.
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>>92742568
remove all their creatures
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>>92742591
>draw lands 6 turns in a row
>draw all removal spells next game
>DID YOU HAVE FUN THIS GAME

Arena does this shit on purpose
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>>92742568
Boardwipe, boardwipe, spot removal, then boardwipe or combo out
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>>92742568
I'm guessing fight rigging was involved?
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>>92742337
I always thought Cacophony Scamp being able to fling itself was kinda ridiculous. Feels like they had two different cards and then just stapled them together.
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>>92742636
yup, i need to craft a deck with that so i can never draw the cards i need and lose 9/10 games.
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>>92742619
>7 different numbers on this single card
>>92742620
I don't know why the best lands for fixing are kept as rares, when land inconsistency has been the biggest fundamental problem with the game since day 1, and land fixing is needed for the majority of decks. Not everyone needs a merfolk tribal card, but everyone with 2+ colors wants to not be screwed on their mana and be a goldfish.
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>>92742642
Furnace Scamp basically does the same thing for a static 3 damage, I think it's just an evolution of that. Cacophony Scamp being able to do its power in damage can be pretty funny on turn 2 with antagonize though.
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>>92742667
y-yeah, a-antagonize...
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>>92742677
That's beautiful
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>>92742677
The lesson for today is to always shock the scamp while you have the chance.
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>>92740443
Pretty shit card for commander desu
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>>92742735
>wait until opponents turn to shock them to blow out a pump spell
>get blown out by 2x pump spells and lose anyway
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>>92742833
I think he meant turn one, when there is no available mana to do anything with.....
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>>92742677
now THIS is magic
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>>92742833
The window to shock the scamp was turn 1, but he played a swiftspear and swung instead. Realistically, I can't blame the opponent for not expecting 22 fucking damage on turn 2, but he did theoretically have a chance to survive.
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Bowmasters and Grief will be banned…
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>>92741562
>scamdarn
>poor man's poiqueer
>commanderslop
The fact that you consider any of these remotely worth playing disgusts me. I feel dirtier knowing I share a thread with soulless golems such as yourself.
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>>92743001
Yeah, post your B&R predictions or wishlist

>Wishlist
Pioneer - Spies unbanned
Modern - Leyline of the Guildpact banned, all supplemental cards banned, current banlist removed
Legacy - Grief and Bowmasters banned, Hermit Druid unbanned, maybe Frantic Search unbanned
Vintage - Urza's saga restricted

>Predictions
Pioneer - Nothing
Modern - Nothing
Legacy - Bowmasters banned
Vintage - Saga restricted
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>>92743017
based standard chad
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>>92743054
>banning anything when the sets are still in print
lmao
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Buy an ad, faggot
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>>92743118
>4COmnath caught a ban in 2 weeks
lol even
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>>92743153
I only play good games like Artifact where every deck is stax.
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Can't wait for Bloomburrow when JOTC pushes Black yet again with another card draw value engine bat and White gets a 1/1 mouse that gains 2 life if you suck off your opponent nicely.
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I don't feel so good
I gained about 300+ life this game from the cornucopias
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>>92743223
furry wallets are deeper than blackrock's wallet
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>playing simic artifacts against mono red, an outdated version with Raiju
>all those lines figuring out which creatures to turn into food and which to pump up for blocking
>went from 2 life with a shock pointed at my face up to 13 by the time he scooped
Look to the cookie, Anon.
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>>92743223
And it has to be nicely. A half assed toothy bj makes the trigger fizzle.
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>>92743153
We don't want what you're selling.
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Timeless
>t0 Leyline of Sanctity
>t1 ub surveil land
>t2 fetch swamp
>dark ritual
>thoughtsieze you
>show & tell
>omniscience
>approach of the second sun
>dig through time
>approach again
*extends hand*
bro what lmao this format doesn't even have Force of Will
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What does it say that the same guy who spams racist memes is also the guy who can't recognize why the card game he's shilling for is word salad on cardboard, a totally overstuffed and unreadable jumble of numbers and text that doesn't explain itself

Magic cards explain themselves
You could be completely new to the game and Frost Giant's abilities would be reasonably understandable. Meanwhile shitlord cards read something like:

>{+4/-3/+2} Gavlor the Basher {13 + 2}
>{5 C} - Character
>Mercenary - Warlord - Ethereal - Cheesemaking+3
>While Gavlor is rested, adjacent ripostes have -5 DC and +3 to clash rolls. Magic strikes against Gavlor have reduced readiness.
>React Order: Once per turn per player, remove a readied Weapon from your discard pile from the game: Gavlor deals a Fire Powerattack +5 as though he were level 8 and wounds dealt may not be reduced
>May cast level 3 cleric spells
>{+7} - {4}
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Why are any of you still playing after WOTC went woke?
They hate you, you know?
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>bowmasters gets banned in legacy
>bean decks become S tier
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>>92743365
Because i still need to become a magic champion, and commander is occasionally fun.I also look forward to the day Gavin Verhey dies for all his color pie blasphemies.
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>about to sign up for otj prerelease
>lgs wanted $40 per event
jfc, it was like $25 like 5 years ago
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>>92743226
In what format did this nonsense occur
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>>92743404
pretty sure that's every single card legal in standard
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Would Bowmasters be fair if it cost {2}{B} and didn't Amass?
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>>92743422
>Flash
>Amass
>Draw ping
>2 cmc
choose 3 and it's fair
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>>92743422
It would be fair if it didn't have Flash but we all know gavin verhey had to be a lying hack
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>>92743422
You could just make it so that it can only ping the opponent instead of any target and it would probably be fine.
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>>92743422

remember when orcs had drawbacks just like goblins?
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Ward - Your opponent may place Orcish Bowmasters onto the battlefield from their hand, library, graveyard, or exile.
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i don't care if it's shit i still play uwg food chain control in legacy
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>>92743497
Why is it shit?
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>someone made /mtga/
>it actually got a pity reply
>aaand its gone
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>>92743497
because you have to add a lot of shit cards for the combo part of the deck
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>>92743505
>Meanwhile Master Duel getting two generals
The power... of FIRE design...
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>>92743507
Isn't "the combo" just having Food Chain in play and casting the griffin you pitched to Force of Will?
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>>92743525
Acererak
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>>92743574
Sorry, I don't know how that's supposed to work. The Bant Chain deck I'm familiar with plays dorks and one mana tutors to combo on turn 3 and win with Walking Balista. How does Acererak work with Food Chain?
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>>92743422
The thing that pushes it over the edge is that it ALWAYS pings. It simply shouldn't have the ETB, then it would be balanced; it would specifically hate on blue cantrips making it a viable sideboard card without being universally strong against all decks. Currently it's good as removal against x/1 creatures, for chump blocking large creatures without evasion, or for stealing subgame mechanics in legacy/vintage. Don't forget the issue where it's its own best answer.
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>>92743633
He is confusing aluren with food chain
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>>92743650
That makes a LOT more sense
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opp mountain swiftspear 19
me tapland
opp mountain monstrous rage mirran banesplitter 11
still has a 4/2 trample prowess on the board

this is really how wizards wants the game huh
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>>92743223
>>92743235
kek, sounds like the average slopper playing commander these days
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>>92743677
Have you considered adding interaction to your deck
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>>92743422
Amassing orcs should cost 2.
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>>92743647
>Orcish Bowmasters
>Leyline Binding
>Mental Misstep
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>>92739525
If you're the kind of person that collects funkos it's already cool.
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>>92737845
Why WOULDN'T you run this in every commander deck ever?
(Unless your pod is full of monocolor and colorless fags ofc)
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>>92743921
Because not every commander deck has lands/rocks that make colorless mana
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>>92743968
>Because not every commander deck has lands/rocks that make colorless mana
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You can't just use mana of any color to cast it?
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>>92743979
Anus mana means you can only use colorless.
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>>92743313
Gave me a hearty laugh
>>92743365
I only play kitchen table, safe from corporate shenanigans
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>>92743968
1 colorless mana is easy
2 colorless mana would not be reliable, though
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I have a bit of a problem in my local game store.
There's an old fart who first was introduced to me like some MTG guru. And now I know him as a sore loser who can't win unless his deck has at least five tutors and one infinite combo. He visits every card shop in the city and sometimes even in neighboring cities and buys all of the more well known and useful cards like Thran Dynamo or Dryad of the Ilysian Grove. Then he sells them to people for market price regardless of quality.
Then when a homebrew power 4 deck stomps his shit he gets butthurt, or puts on a shit eating grin when people (politely) call him out on his bullshit and claims no wrong doing because he's just playing the game.

I'm no Magic meta-mancer but sometimes I just want to shove his shit in. Anyone have recommendations for a player hate deck?
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>>92744055
>commander seethe
I'm not reading all that shit but whatever happened you deserve that and worse.
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>>92743921
It seems good like 30% of the time.
It's not just that you need a multicolored target, you need a GOOD multicolored target.
Also >>92743968, you're not always gonna have sol ring and when you get to 3 or more colors you need a good mana base.
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>>92744055
>Anyone have recommendations for a player hate deck?
Yeah, playing a real format.
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>>92744055
>well known and useful cards like Thran Dynamo
What plays that? First that comes to mind is some budget Vintage Shops or maybe a legacy deck with Mystic Forge shenanigans.
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>>92744120
Just anything that reduces cost/ cast for free. It's common where I play. At least for the sorry sods who bought one off the asshole or had one already.
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>>92744120
>Thran Dynamo
Premodern MUD
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>opponent plays 6 discard spells
>opponent plays 6 removal spells
>opponent tries to OHKO combo me twice
>plays instant enchantment removal to fizzle my combo
>I play a single bounce spell to fizzle their combo
>I have weak dorks left on board barely able to outpace his manlands
>....
>spams sleepy hedron 50 times
>goes fake afk, comes back
>starts losing
>goes afk and ropes out 3 times before the lethal swing

Whats the thought process
Do these people molest children or something
Is MTGA just a true cesspool of the dregs of society
How can someone be so triggered by a fading hope on bloodletter to make rush of dread 'only' deal 10 damage, when he's got an entire deck of removal
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Cya guys, I'm off to flesh and blood. If only I could cash out.
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>>92742370
Mirrodin block. I was young and it was a huge step up from previous magic sets in terms of quality, aesthetic, flavor and art.
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>>92744192
>>spams sleepy hedron 50 times
im a fan of spamming the new one where the bitch is pointing at her wristwatch. fuckin' play or pass lmao you have one untapped forest and three cards in hand your grand keikaku isn't popping off this turn
>>
Honestly if you only showed me Arena and Master Duel I would think YGO is objectively the better game.
If you showed me only MTGO and MD I would think Magic died before 2005.
I'm honestly baffled by how playing this game on Tabletop Sim is better than anything official WotC has put out.
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Apart from white initiative, what are other relatively easy to play and viable decks for vintage?
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new player here should i play mtg arena if i want to yolo it and learn as fast as possible?
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>>92737918
>Nonland permanent
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>>92744606
oath
null rod shops
hogaak
oops all spells
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>>92744679
Yes, Arena tutorial is great for learning how to play
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>>92744606
Wtf is white initiative? Some daily wire show?
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>>92744693
Thanks
>null rod shops
This type?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr8SewO1TME
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>Surgical extraction costs no mana, is instant and cards that get taken from your hand don't get replaced
Why did they release this onto arena when reprieve is a thing?
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>>92744827
yes, like this
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6371108#online
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>>92745134
>>92745134
>>92745134
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hello i am a grill (precising this because people will more likely notice and want to) who is looking for fren to plat mtg arena with, I play standard and we can vc and stuff. I can show you my irl collection too if you'd like!
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>>92745733
pls respond with your discord as i am too nervous to post mine on here
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>>92744214
I wasn't actively playing while Mirrodin was going on, but it did seem really cool. I stayed away though because the power level of the cards and all of the infinite/artifact combos or whatever that were being set up made me feel like all the cards I would would have been suddenly irrelevant.



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