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>>93128109
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What's the weirdest thing your jumper "would"?
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Where can I get a beautiful, overpowered, sociopath, socially awkward, possibly cannibalistic waifu to companion?
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>>93138473
(You)
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>>93138503
Sans the spoiler, Azula from Avatar is a pretty classic pick that fits most of your requirements.
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>>93138503
Generic Xianxia, fellow cultivation nerd.
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>>93138503
Elden Ring
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>>93138473
A hole
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>>93138529
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>>93138391
NTA How far should crowdfunding extend. If I gave the thread a skeleton that had all the perks and items but they needed fluffing and names would that be appropriate? Or a wip that had holes in its perklines that needed filling? What's the limit?
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>>93138529
Does it count toward the spoiler if they were processed into pills first?
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>>93138473
A blonde woman named Karen Star
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>>93137092
I haven't gotten that far yet. Mostly I've been making notes on the planet customization stuff while I haven't been able to be at my computer. Now that my latest project has finished up, I'm going to keep from getting lost in the weeds and actually type up Part 1 before I work too much more on the skeleton of Part 2.
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>>93138556
>skeleton that had all the perks and items but they needed fluffing and names would that be appropriate?
Honestly if this was standard enough to be done i'd have made alot more jumps than I have by this point.
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>>93138503
Sauce?
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>>93128358
JUMP #0139: Friday the 13th

+1000
Location: Camp Crystal Lake, 1979
Age: 29
Gender: Male
Origin: Psycho
Perks:
>The Horror (free)
>Brute (300)
>Urban Legend (300)
>Revenant (600)
Items:
>Hockey Masks (free)
>Machete [Import Sturmgeflüster] (100)
Companions:
>Import (300)
Drawbacks:
>Disfigured (+100)
>Crazies (+200)
>Murderer (+300)
Total: 1600/1600

Ryan +600
Gender: Male
Origin: Psycho
Perks:
>The Horror (free)
>Stalker (100)
>Serial Killer (200)
>Brute (300)
Items:
>Hockey Masks (free)
Lorelei +600
Gender: Female
Origin: Drop In
Perks:
>Common Sense (free)
>Brave (100)
>Deader Than Dead (300)
Items:
Friday the 13th Series Collection (free)
>Research Facility (200)

Sophia +600
Gender: Female
Origin: Teenager
Perks:
>Sexy (free)
>Run and Hide (100)
>Group Effort (200)
>Final Girl (300)
Items:
>Party Supplies (free)

Mortimer +600
Gender: Male
Origin: Psycho
Perks:
>The Horror (free)
>Stalker (100)
>Serial Killer (200)
>Brute (300)
Items:
>Hockey Masks (free)

Elizabeth +600
Gender: Female
Origin: Teenager
Perks:
>Sexy (free)
>Run and Hide (100)
>Group Effort (200)
>Final Girl (300)
Items:
>Party Supplies (free)

Talisa +600
Gender: Female
Origin: Drop In
Perks:
>Common Sense (free)
>Brave (100)
>Lucky (200)
>Deader Than Dead (300)
Items:
>Friday the 13th Series Collection (free)

1/2
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>>93138579
She's from Cultivation Nerd, a western xianxia webnovel that's on the usual places like RoyalRoad, SB and QQ.
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I need more ideas for a SCHIZOPHRENIC chain. I need more voices in my head (so no Disco Elysium or things like that).

So far I got:
- The Avatar powers in Avatar Aang / Korra
- One for All quirk in My Hero Academia
- The Butcher shard in Worm (by killing her)
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>>93138588
Heather +600
Gender: Female
Origin: Teenager
Perks:
>Sexy (free)
>Run and Hide (100)
>Group Effort (200)
>Final Girl (300)
Items:
>Party Supplies (free)

Gaia +600
Gender: Female
Origin: Drop In
Perks:
>Common Sense (free)
>Brave (100)
>Lucky (200)
>Deader Than Dead (300)
Items:
>Friday the 13th Series Collection (free)

Commentary: Time to bring up another house rule. Mandatory drawbacks still give their points. It's weird it wants to penalize me for sticking to the theme. Some peculiar design choices overall. Moving on to the actual jump decade, Jumper finds himself surrounded by crazy people and a rising need to clean house so to speak. To not make this decade completely unproductive Jumper decides to turn this into a giant field test for lethal combat techniques.
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>>93138594
Meant the fanart.
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>>93138571
Well that is just it, at that stage it isn't done. I'm asking if it's reasonable to bring it to the thread at that point for help finishing it.
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>>93138524
14 year old girls with daddy issues and no friends are not for me. I do not understand why some of you want to hang out with such emotionally unstable creatures that are teenage girls.
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>>93138599
JoJo part 5 (21st century schizoid man)
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>>93138556
Varies by project, I'd say. An unfluffed skeleton might be acceptable, but could just as well fall out of fashion if/when it's apparent that the writing tone/quality for the fluffed version is too inconsistent. Similarly, a skeleton with some holes in it is probably fine so long as it's got some clear direction - though over half-done might be preferred since it shows at least some work was put into getting it off the ground. I suppose a way to test it if you're not too confident might be to grab something from the adopts folder that hasn't had a dupe finished yet and peel off a few layers to see if anon can't take what's left and finish a jump.
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>>93138594
Is it any good?
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>>93138599
Don't Rest Your Head
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>>93138599
Be a telepath with some and no off switch
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>>93138611
Ah, they're by frog_out_of_water over on SB, he's been posting fanart in the thread though only one is threadmarked.
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>>93138622
We remembered the baddies from when we were twelve and we never forgot.
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>>93138599
You'd like this one from Night in the Woods.

“Just A Place For Weird Animals To Eat And Have Babies In” (100 CP): You get some...odd
tidbits about a place just hanging out in it. Flashes of memories come to you, never yours but as
vivid as if they were. Many of them seem useless at the moment. The knowledge that Jamie
Westerton got her earrings ripped off here, which band practiced under that tree several years
Ago. They’re odd, but vivid and always come with names attached. Perhaps, if you visit the right
places, you’ll discover your talent is more useful than you’ve come to expect.
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>>93138599
>Tsukihime has several.
>Astral Layers from Psychonauts, kind of
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>>93138627
I'm enjoying it, I wouldn't call it peak anything but it has been a fun time reading it. It's also got a really consistent update schedule.
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>>93138503
Generic Erotic Horror.
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>>93138649
I'll take a look. Any other recommendations?
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>>93138599

Alternate Personalities:
>Moonphase Aspects (Exalted The Lunars)
>Super Soldier (Gundam Anno Domini)
>Memories Of Past (Halo Forerunner Saga)
>Genius Gamer 'J', Red Eyes, EXCITE (Kamen Rider Neo-Heisei Part 4)
>It's All In The Blood - Ryougi (Kara no Kyoukai 1)
>Multiple Personality Magic (Kara no Kyoukai 2)
>War and Peace (Majikoi)
>The One Who is Many (MonsterVerse)
>Form Change (Mugen Souls)
>Personality Cores (Portal)
>"He's trying to lead you down the path of righteousness." (The Emperor's New Groove)
>The Killer In Me, The Moon's Shadow (Tsukihime)
>Little Angel On Your Shoulder (Ultimate Spider-Man)
>Functional Split Personality (World of Darkness - Changeling the Lost)


Passengers:
>Friendly Spirit (Avatar - Legend of Korra)
>Presence (Cradle)
>Possessed Gear, Merry Minions (Darkstalkers)
>Vestments of Fate/Freedom (DC Occult)
>Strange Neighbor (Double Cross)
>Blackened Denarius (Dresden Files)
>Unwoven Coadjutor (Exalted The Infernals)
>Guardian Force (Final Fantasy 8)
>The Zodiac Stones (Final Fantasy Tactics)
>Worms of the Cologne (Futurama)
>Backseat Driver (Imawabi no Dakini)
>Kamui, Conservatively Dressed (Kill la Kill)
>Lying With Demons (Magic the Gathering - Iconics)
>Phoenix Six (Marvel Avengers vs X-Men)
>The House Where I Live (Marvel Cosmic)
>True Jinchuriki (Naruto)
>Body Parasyte (Parasyte)
>Wraith (Shadow of Mordor)
>Parasite (Skullgirls)
>Black Blood Weapon Companion (Soul Eater)
>Hell Symbiont (Spawn)
>Personal Guardian (Fate/Legends Strange New World)
>A Different Self, Progenitor God (Super Smash Bros. World of Light)
>Element Four (The Weakness of Beatrice)
>Symbiosis (Venom)
>Sorcerer's Helmet, Reach Scarab (Young Justice)
>Ancient Mentor (World of Cultivation)
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>>93138639
is that the same reason so many people feel sorry for Yunyun and want to be her friend? Because they remember being the lonely kid with no friends.
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>>93138669
Can also add Worm under Passengers.
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>>93138473
I genuinely couldn't tell you. Maybe the answer is nothing, maybe the answer is anything, maybe it's something specific I've never heard of. Simple fact is I have no idea exactly how the experiences on that grand adventure would shape someone, and that's before factoring perks or mind-affecting Drawbacks in. Sure, the Drawback goes away at the end of the Jump, but unless fiat is also reverting all of the neural pathways that formed while it was active, wouldn't you at least spend a while having to unlearn being That Kind Of Person?

I don't know and I probably never will.
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>>93138674
At least for me yeah. And just general empathy really.
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>>93138599
UQ Holder has a perk that puts a shit-ton of souls inside you.
You could also be a Hollow in Bleach and just start eating things.
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>>93138599
If you want personalities, both My Next Life as a Villainess/Hamefura/Bakarina and Mugen Souls can get you a few more to have sitting in your headspace or potentially swap between. The Quantum Brain you can get in Gundam 00 can also have a distinct behavior pattern.
If you get a version of Rogue's power in X-Men, you could probably make that the upgrade you get from using the Gem or Cytorak in X-Men Evolution. The base power absorbs memories as well as powers and a few variants even go as far as to copy the entire form and keep it in storage.
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>>93138674
>Yunyun
I appreciate her combat competence, am empathetic regarding her social struggles, and her tits are fantastic. There is very little reason not pick up Yunyun.
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>>93138473
The End Of The Cycle.
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>>93138473
>inb4 Jurai Tree
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>>93138660
Xianxia/Cultivation wise maybe check out War Priest for a Japanese myth flavored xianxia and Virtuous Sons for a greek myth flavored one.
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>>93138706
Except you will forget to grab her just as the portal closes and not remember for two jumps.
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>>93138599
The Naruto jump has both a perk based on Inner Sakura, and a bloodline from filler that comes with an alternate personality.
It's a good idea to take both of them and make them fight.
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>>93138724
Nah. As I am not an SB-faggot, I am immune to meta-narrative inertia.
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Did your jumper ever find out What the dog doin'?
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>>93138736
Making leather armor look good.
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>>93138473
Ever since I got a world-body, I've been fucking entire dimensions to create pocket dimensions.
One time I was nailing Stellaris, and a few eldritch creatures like the worm in waiting and end of the cycle came to join in on the action.
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>>93138473
There are many, many weird things that my jumper "would". Strange beasts that exist as warps in the fabric of spacetime. Sapient equations. Undulating horrors of anti-existence. I can tell you what they WOULDN'T though: non-sapient, non-consenting existences that they don't have emotional connection or chemistry with. Jumper wouldn't do anything that isn't sapient, requires that they actually get along and emotionally care for their companion, and requires consent before any such pleasures. If it doesn't meet those three requirements, Jumper isn't doing it. On the other hand, if it does meet those three requirements, Jumper is wholly willing to do it with even weird metaphorical beasts from beyond existence that only emerge in the corner of one's eyes and in the hollow spaces between real things.
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>>93138599
I think you can become a Celestialsapien in Ben 10 and get two voices in your head arguing for millenia on your every move.
Also, the DBZA fanfic toggle was mentioned last thread, and when you fuse with Namekians there, they become voices in your head.
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>>93138734
Except metanarrative is more something pushed by Chads here.
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>>93138656
>Pic
God damn it. I shouldn't want something like that in my life. But I really do.
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>>93138724
I swear it was one time.
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>>93138779
>Except metanarrative is more something pushed by squealing cucks here.
Fixed that for you.
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Stories good or stories bad?
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>>93138799
Good stories good. Bad stories can be good or bad, depending on why and how bad.
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>>93138799
Absolutes bad.
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>>93138599
I'm gonna toss out Pokemon as an unorthodox suggestion.
There are more than a few that are just multiple beings sticking together, but not all of those are what you're looking for. Beldum is the proper suggestion that comes to mind, as they evolve by fusing their bodies and minds together, but there are probably some more out there.
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>>93138791
t. jobs to Man With a Gun
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>>93138808
Isn't that an absolute in of it self though?
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Need to purge heretics and sinners. Places for it besides warhammer?
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Jumps to fight Aliens as a Ninja?
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>>93138837
Naruto, go beat some space cultivator ass.
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>>93138837
Generic Alien Invasion?
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>>93138837
My Sweet Alien.
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>>93138835
I mean, you can do that anywhere you can haul a flamethrower, can't you?
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So bored but considering having Jumper companion/Waifu Hylia in Zelda golden Era given Jumpers kinda taken on a link role in Zelda Jumps already. How do you think one goes about that? Beyond just killing Demise I mean. Unsure how she'd take to the idea of travelling the multiverse a bit. Though we do know little of her personality iirc.
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>>93138878
>filename
Six billion.
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>>93138890
Zoss pls
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>>93138837
I thought for sure he was about to start pole-dancing on the tree during the fight.
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>>93138907
Crazier shit than that happens in the movie so that wouldn't be out of place.
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>>93138594
>Western Xianxia
Pass!
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>>93138558
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>>93138669
>World of Cultivation
Never heard of this, what is it?
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>>93139006
>Pills that grow into waifus when dunked in water
Hot.
Would the endless jokes about getting her wet be worth it?
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>>93138999
>+100 social credits
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>>93139039
NTA, but anon, western xianxia is just slop written by sinaboos who like xianxia. It's going to have most of the problems of xianxia combined with the problems of normal royalroad fare (including wokeness).
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>>93139091
A shit sandwich cannot be made better and it cannot be made worse precisely because it is a shit sandwich.
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>>93139022
One of the better xianxia. The mc is pretty funny compared to other stories.
He cares little to nothing about honor and things like that, his primary motivation is getting rich.
Overall a pretty amusing story to read if you've read other xianxia beforehand.
Oh, and while I focus on its comedy it does have plenty of more serious scenes. It's not just comedic in tone.
One negative is that the early translation I read was quite rough in several places. No idea if that's still the case nowadays.
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Induct cultivators into sword logic good idea or great idea to cause an apocalypse?
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>>93139112
Great idea anon. Thats gonna probably sink whatever world that starts in. Admittedly cultivators are already pretty similar usually.
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>>93138781
Same. Same.
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>>93138835
Exalted.
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If you use a perk to replace the MC of a story and Jumper isn't a typical herbavore Jap cuck MC, would that change the metanarrative of the story? Since one of the principle elements, the cuck protag, has been changed, wouldn't that necessarily change the metanarrative? Take Worlds End Harem, for example. You get rid of the limp dick MC and get a proper MC in there Rance or the MCs from either Slave Harem or Kuroinu and you have a much different story because the MC won't be whinging about how he has to fuck and breed all the women in Japan.
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>>93138656
What are the odds that if you get the one from there and the smol one from that other QQ jump that they are just avatars of the same entity rather than two separate ones that cribbed the same look for their mortal vestiges?
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>>93139151
As long as they're willing to share, does it matter?
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>>93139150
You are writing the story. Even if you didn't replace them the story has been changed. Metanarrative is cringe.
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>>93139161
What if they're two independent avatars of the same entity who each jealously loves you and doesn't want any rivals, and thus can't abide each other despite the fact that they're ultimately the same being?
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>>93139176
Then you need to love them enough for them both to accept themselves and each other and if you can't do that then you simply don't love them enough for one of them let alone the superposition multiplicity of them.

Fag.
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>>93139150
Only retarded cucks care about metanarrative in the first place. You are the author and you define the story.
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>>93139191
I always love seeing how hard anti-metanarrative fags project.
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>>93138781
>>93139122
Its the someone giving you love and affection bit more then the eldritch horror bit I imagine. Though it does lend a allure in itself.
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>>93139161
>jumper just out on a midday stroll
>randos in the crowd practically leaping out of the way in abject terror for no apparent reason
>normies confused at wtf is going on
>tmw jumper's shadow is a cuddle puddle of eldritch horrors the likes of which anything with even the faintest bit of insight wishes wasn't anywhere near this star system that suddenly feels a lot smaller
Gotta love when it loops back around to (almost) wholesome.
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>>93139191
What do you do if the unified greater whole becomes so maddeningly jealous of her avatars that she decides that she's going to destroy the world you're on so she can pull you into her ascendant whole and keep you for her and her alone, only for her independent avatars to decide to sacrifice themselves out of their love for you to protect you and your home and hold back their greater self even if it means they'll have to be apart from you forever?
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>>93139091
The whole genre is bugman slop
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>>93139234
>>93139185
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Just checking because Im falling i to a slump in my chain, anyone know of a way to become the embodiement of the concept of death with all the psychopomp powers that would entail?
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>>93139232
I'd read or watch it.
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>>93139251
DC Collab.
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>>93139251
You're in a slump because you're grocery shopping and not storytelling. Fix yourself.
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>>93139098
>and it cannot be made worse
You don't know shit if you think all shit is equally shitty.
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Would your jumper have refused Miquella?
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>>93139265
I dislike FOTOM vidya, so yes.
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>>93139265
Yes, then he would have hit him in the face with Marika's hammer.
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>>93139245
Lazy, but it gets the point across.
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>>93139268
>not Ranni's sword
Homosexual detected.
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>>93138599
Slay the prinvess has a ton of stuff
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>>93139274
I went the Marika poon route in my last build for ER. I haven't restarted that chain yet.
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>>93139260
The slump is that I have been to a lot of jumps and I need to reinvent my theme. Theres only so many ways I can go about being a god of corruption before it becomes boring.
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>>93139265
I'm importing Alma Wade as an Empyrean, so yes
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Here is 1.0 of my The Great Mouse Detective jump. It can be put on the drives.

1.0 Changelog:
>Added Jumper History toggle.

I'm not sure how useful the toggle is, but there may some House of Mouse interaction that people want to take advantage of, and it doesn't hurt to include it. If things go smoothly, I should have something else to present later today.
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>>93139274
Ranni simps don't get chains
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>>93139112
It will cause whatever setting you introduce it into to basically cannibalize themselves. Even established sects won't be safe.
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>>93139260
>you're grocery shopping
Where do you think you are posting right now?
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>>93139265
Does he like heavier than air fixed wing aircraft, Y/N?
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Diabolical before or after Vtuber SoL?
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>>93139265
I'm not a fag, so i would cave his skull with a hammer
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>>93139354
Based hammerchad.
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>>93139323
I bet whatever cultivator protag I give it to would be ecstatic that this shiny new "cultivation method" makes them stronger with each kill
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Telekinesis is the peak of physical combat. It has range, can't be seen, is instant, is undodgeable, is unblockable unless your opponent also has telekinesis, often ignores defenses by just bypassing them and it can also have massive area of effect. To top it all off, it's just as insane at defense as it is at offense because nothing can even make contact with you if you don't let it. A strong psychic is just Satoru Gojo

Esoteric and magical effects can be stronger, but in the world of just pure physical fights it isn't even close.
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>>93139375
I cast black hole++++. Now what bitch?
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>>93139375
It's literally not physical combat
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>>93139402
Physical combat is just excluding esoteric effects like Fate manipulation, time manipulation etc. a thermonuclear missile is physical combat in this framework.
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>>93139408
I wozard is still stronger in every aspect. Cope and dilate.
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>>93139375
>>93139408
Never post again
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>>93139408
nta, but telekinesis is effectively pure energy, so while it meets the secondary requirement for use of physical force, it does not meet the requirement for physical mass since the force can be applied independent of an object - or intervening matter if you use it directly on the target.
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>>93139424
Energy manipulation is pretty much all physical combat is. If guns didn't pack kinetic energy nobody would use them.
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What would having Pluto as my Devil parent gave me?
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Me and my jump are feeling inadequate before the formatting prowess of the author of a fanfic I just binged
Are there any guides or tips to making cool formats on Word or LibreOffice so I can upgrade my jump and stop feeling like this
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Hello everyone. How are things going? I'm working on toaru and I got my figurine.
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Is it gay to have sex with a man who was genderbent into a woman (non-retroactively)?
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>>93139265
He would awkwardly ask if he could get Malenia instead. Hopefully kind Miquella would understand.
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>>93139443
Pretty good. Just working on my jump.
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>>93139445
>Is it gay to have sex with a man
Yes.
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>>93139443
I'm good. I'm reading Redo of Healer.
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>>93139445
Yes it is, Godfrey.
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Alright you retards, since some of you clearly just want to post stupid questions unrelated to jumpchain right now, I'm inviting you here and now to post them at me and I'll feed you (you)s.
>What are you thinking of right now related to jumpchain?
Self reply: Is visiting Genshin worth it for this ass?
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>>93139496
>What are you thinking of right now related to jumpchain?
Currently trying to think up the remaining perks for two of the backgrounds in my jump.
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>>93139443
Doing fine now, I think I may have been starving myself by eating little and exercising a lot with high metabolism and I kept having mind fog. But now I feel better.
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Who determines the "value" of a binding vow? Like, if I give up thing X and thing Y and one makes for a better binding vow, who is determining that?
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>>93139496
Currently wishing we had a fallout 76 jump despite the game being shit. Thinking if Jumper would still be considered early chain if hes 11 jumps in or if thats more mid chain now. Dont have a end jump number in mind.
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>>93139496
Trying to figure out how to entomb waifus in my power armor to keep me company.
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>>93139512
It just works.
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>>93139500
What jump? What backgrounds? Details man.

>>93139513
Bro just use the base fallout jump. Or the Fallout 2 jump. It's all the same setting, there's not so much difference between games or even distance between regions or change over time for it to matter which version of Fallout you choose to jump.

>>93139527
Just turn them into ghosts and have them possess it
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>>93139443
Off work. Procrastinating. Probably gonna boot up Cyberpunk a few times over the weekend.
I actually played several hours with a netrunner focus and found many of the changes to quickhacks and all that very underwhelming compared to how things used to be. I think I'll be going back to fisticuffs, because holy shit did 1.2 make that so much more fun.
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>>93139513
Maybe you can get that schizophrenic indian who posts shitty memes on /v/ to make the jump, he'd fit in here perfectly
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>>93139462
>>93139488
Formerly a man, currently a woman (physically).
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>>93139535
>What jump? What backgrounds? Details man.
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>>93139535
See it would be easy that way, I want them to remain whole and fleshy, so that necessitates big armor.
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>>93139512
As far as we know it's a naturalistic system, shit just happens and some things just have greater values then others. Maybe it's something to do with how important they are to you? Like, a man who was legally blind before eye surgery fixed his vision might have lower value in his sight because he can deal with that better
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>>93139542
>a man
Yes.
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>>93139496
Trying to make a list of races and some items(swords,spears,books,ring mostly) so I'm cheking all the docs. Surprised to see the Nephilim from Anima are not really angelic in theme, but I guess the word is also used to describe half humans half monsters.
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>>93139496
Why is Paradox so god damn lazy with Mechanical Leviathan traits holy shit.
>>93139443
>I got my figurine.
Congrats Ric.
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>>93139555
>FORMERLY
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>>93139496
Thinking about which Exalted jump is better to start a chain with: Solars or First Age?
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>>93139535
>Bro just use the base fallout jump. Or the Fallout 2 jump. It's all the same setting, there's not so much difference between games or even distance between regions or change over time for it to matter which version of Fallout you choose to jump.
Eh yeah thats fair I guess. Can always do that.

>>93139496
Oh also forgot but to answer that question. Genshins not that bad of a jump or world to visit. Lotta adventure you can get up to so even without the ass I'd recommend going. So of course.
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>>93139561
what did Paradox do this time
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>>93139573
Mortal Heroes.
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>>93139572
Don't bother, it's just screeching about trannies.
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>>93139573
Burn Legend
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>>93139573
>Thinking about which Exalted jump is better to start a chain with: Solars or First Age?
I'd say mortals there anon. Start from the very bottom of the ladder and work your way up to God-Kinghood.
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>>93139561
>Why is Paradox so god damn lazy with Mechanical Leviathan traits holy shit.
Because they're literally paid by the DLC. If they got everything right from the beginning and also didn't go back and remove mechanics so they could put them in again later for money, they would be out of a job over a decade ago. Same reason merchant republics don't even fucking exist in CK3, when they were one of the basic features of CK2 within couple years of release.
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>>93139315
>I'm not sure how useful the toggle is, but
At the very least, it might give characters some Deja Vu if you met them during Disney Villains Victorious. I think pretty near every Disney property is represented there in some way.
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>>93139572
Doesn't matter. He was born a man, he will always be a man. HWNBAW
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>>93139574
>Genshins not that bad of a jump or world to visit.
Yeah, but you have to permanently babysit a piece of jewelry or face identity death.
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>>93139594
Reincarnation says that the spirits of all women were at one point in the flesh of men and vice versa. You will always be a woman.
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>>93139608
Please don't fucking engage.
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>>93138784
One time is too many. We only have two jumps to get her in.
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>>93139558
Nephilim of Enoch aren't really angelic either, they're just big and iirc flaming
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>>93139602
Just don't take a vision lol.
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>>93139496
>What are you thinking of right now related to jumpchain?
How to incorporate the tech in the more recent season of Irregular at Magical High School into jumper's robot army. A group in-setting was making inroads into combat androids that use a lesser spirit for the combat AI, and that looked like the missing piece to an idea I had about making an artificial body that was intended to reincarnate a soul after an initial acclimation phase. Much less work to cobble together a soul container since the parasite dolls are designed for a similar enough purpose. Also spent entirely too long the other day making a shitty recolor/minor edit for a BlazBlue sprite that's several steps away from being anything close to a proper representation of the relevant OC from the Shinmai Maou no Testament jump. Not sure if it's fitting or sacrilige that some colors are from alt pallets from the games where others are from a couple of screenshots for the other anime to get the colors for the hero outfits/energy. Either way, it made me miss having a program that let you replace colors with the accuracy of a paint/pen tool...
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>>93139629
If you don't gave a vision, you won't be relevant in the retarded shonen-tier escalation that happens there.
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>>93139611
>Waaah waaaah please don't engage the shitposter giving a shitpost answer to your shitpost question
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>>93139593
That's good then.
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>>93139602
There are ways around that thankfully. You could be a god or elemental. They dont need visions for whatever there element is. And you can take always potentially take the perk in the drop in line where you just dont need a vision to use elemental powers and not take it.
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>>93139496
Mona isn't bad, I prefer Shenhe and Ayaka though.
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>>93139575
First of all, would it have fucking killed them to at least give the traits you get names that aren't literally just the Leviathan you just killed, like they did with the Organic Leviathan traits?
Secondly,
>Enigma Broken
Thirdly, it is direly evident that either they spent zero seconds balancing the numbers on these traits or just wanted to make them overtuned, considering how much better they are than the OL traits, which are at the same cost.
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>>93139631
That kind of shit is too much effort for me desu
Not like I won't spend a lot of time thinking about projects and power combos but when it comes to magic it's always 'I can pretty much do anything' or nothing for me, I can't into granular progression of vague reality warping bullshit unless it's a very specific superpower. Same with technology, either I can just do whatever or I can't do much of anything, I don't know how to handle the midrange of ability.
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>>93139640
Shenhes always solid. I like her mom a bit more though admittedly design and personality wise. I like the arc cloud retainers been on a bit since her initial appearance.
Though admittedly my favorite genshins Venti. Not for any waifu related reasons but because he's just funny to me. I liked him in there archon quest of stealing from his own church.
They feel like they'd be the sort to be up for on a journey around the multiverse.
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I thought Keyaru was kinda alright before, but this man needs to be stopped. He's an absolute bastard.
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I am going to start a chain where I punch my problems away, to become the best at punching like no one ever was. What are some good jumps that let me punch good? Willing to use power fists and the like.
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>>93139443
I’m good, took the day off in order to avoid the 90 degree heat
>>93139662
Nooo don’t stop him! Let him be unhinged!
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>>93139662
Does he need to be get his insane delusions broken?
>>93139561
>Congrats Ric.
Thanks babe
>>93139538
>>93139453
Those are good plans
>>93139508
>>93139466
Those are not good plans
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>>93139662
I thought you were done with the anime ages ago and went to the LN?
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>>93139443
Farm trees are growing new leaves. So that is good. Gourds are a bit wilted, but watered. A few are reaching 6ft in length and already growing fruit. Even found some wild buffalo gourds. So that is a pleasant surprise. Then spent an hour sighting in the new crossbow for the hogs.
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>>93139496
Mona's alright but Sucrose is my girl of choice.
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If Shard is still around, then new Miquella shit just dropped. During the final boss in the DLC, if you get grabbed by Miquella twice, he literally mind-rapes you into submission and you become his willing slave, with the "YOU DIED" message being replaced by "HEART STOLEN" instead. This is the only way to get the Let Us Go Together gesture. It also directly confirms that Miquella is 100% mind controlling Radahn and never actually lost his ability to just mindrape people at will.
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>>93139512
It's a pure plot device that works however the author decides.
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>>93139573
Solars.
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>>93139659
Pretty it's just a holdover from playing MtG and the like. Half the fun of TCGs is turning some random junk into a string of highly functional bullshit. Once you get the basics down pat you can branch into other stuff like better synergies for theme or function.
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>>93139681
I am, I just posted the pic cuz it was convenient.
>>93139680
>Does he need to be get his insane delusions broken?
I don't know if he's delusional, he's just an asshole. He views everything through the lens of "taking revenge" so he purposefully goads people into doing stuff he can "take revenge" for. He befriends a dude just so he can then have that friend's death be a justification for revenge instead of admitting he's a freak and just doing whatever he feels like.
>>93139675
I'm a big fan of the mystic eyes of pressure in Fate Stay Night. You punch through eyesight.
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>>93139496
I prefer Eula and Dehya. Candace and Hu Tao are also high-tier.
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>>93139705
He sounds delusional and in need of getting punched until he stops
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>>93139691
Neat. Only got the care bear attack once so it didn't seem very conclusive at the time.

On the subject of lore drops, Bungie did a Bungo and timegated the new episode but put a shitton of lines in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIQUy96rqMQ

Highlights:

Female Vex is called The Conductor and is confirmed to be one of the many copies of Maya
She ''evolved'' thanks to the Echos
The echo she has is called 'The Echo of Command'
She's draining radiolaria down to the core and probably from other planets (the battlegrounds)
Maya tries to take all the Golden Age data
Maya is reshaping Nessus
Mithrax is showing symptoms of the Curse of Nezarec
The Vex are changing, having more individuality thanks to Maya
Saint IS a Vex simulation and he still has the Light because thanks to us and the Sundial we put Paracausal energy in the simulation and the REAL Saint is dead
Saint is mentally raped by The Conductor
Maya cannot control the other Vex collectives if they don't take her mutated radiolaria
The Veil is mentioned and Lakshmi was created to control it
Chioma (Maya's wife) is also here but she's a copy/simulation
We try to find her in the Vexnet to make her convince Maya to stop
Maya is trying to create a timeline where the Collapse didn't happened, that's why she's taking all the Golden Age data and great amounts of radiolaria
She also tries to convert the entire system in her collective
Maya is doing all of this because she wants her wife back but she fails due to imperfections in the simulation
We destroyed all her work
Maya flees into the unknown but her collective continues to fight to regain control
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>>93139691
TLDR: My decision to have the Winnower give humans-not even Guardians, regularass humans-the sweetest sales pitch was entirely vindicated. And slowly, the idea of "Guardian Vex" is too.
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>>93139687
Thoughts on Elden Ring dlc?
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>>93139684
Having watched Clarkson's Farm I am now up to date on all the many ways farming is hell. I can't imagine how much harder it is with what are basically fanged meat cars zooming around eating everything.
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>>93139750
Haven't picked it up yet. I probably will at some point but I'm low on cash right now and the next Trails game is coming out in about two weeks.
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>>93139735
>We destroyed all her work
What are you even fighting for at this point in Destiny 2? Is it just last stand after last stand with no intention of ever creating anything ever again, just struggle vainly until death even if it means preventing yourself or anyone from ever having anything good?
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How many companions is too many for jump 20? I'm currently at 22.
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I remember reading a week or two ago about an MHA update, is that still in the works, or released?
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>>93139745
Was the winnower particularly nicer to the humans in the darkness Jump? I didn't notice but admittedly I did find the human line to be most appealing.
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>>93139778
IIRC that's happening after the last few epilogue chapters finish coming out, so Soon(TM).
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>>93139776
As someone who stays with 4 for a whole chain, 5. 5 is too many.
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>>93139776
8 max, stay around 4 or so.
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>>93139776
You should have 8 companions total. If you want more they should be followers only.
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>>93139772
Unfortunately, so far it seems like a combination of that and "maybe if you [spare] your enemies enough, they'll spontaneously pull a Mithrax?". Double checking some of the lore tabs apparently Xivu Arath doublecrossed the Witness at the very, very last moment and only insofar as she got the Hive to bail on it while it was carving up the Traveller, which probably didn't mean much. They're also leaning VERY hard on Savathun being an anti-hero despite multiple characters pointing out she has committed genocide for literally billions of years, and the Lucent Brood as a chance for the Hive to redeem themselves despite so far it's literally only Luzaku

And now as you can see, Maya is somehow being presented with semi-sympathetic goals.

They are unironically trying for the Steven Universe ending.

>>93139779
I did try to make it dodge pointing out weaknesses like most of the non-Darkness/paracausal-enabled races in favour of a more "here's a delicious pile of cocaine FOR YOU" approach.
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>>93139776
Any more than 8, and even that's a lot by my own standards.
Though that's mostly because I loathe all the extra bookkeeping, which is why I usually stick with only having followers on my chains.
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How many people would play SAO if it was released in a modern world?
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>>93139776
If the # also includes followers that have been turned into companions, I can understand why it would be so high. It’s reasonable, although hell on tracking imports. I still have 8 companions by jump 15 but it’ll rise soon as I start taking sentient AI/Robots with me.
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>>93139836
Just off the novelty of fulldive VR and the beautifully crafted world, tens of millions.
If alternatives started cropping up, way less. It's a terribly designed game that got hype off trailblazer status.
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>>93139836
Less than would play WoW, somehow.
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Chainbutt you have to pick one:
> your current appearance is locked in as is forever, unable to be altered via exercise, perks, illusion, etc
or
> your current mental capabilities are locked in as is forever (you may learn new skills normally, but cannot take learning/skill/talent perks, install int-boosting cyberware, etc)
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>>93139815
I notice ZERO [Mercy] actions though. You the player gun down way too much shit for that to ever be anything but a joke, the Guardians are just as hyper genocidal as everyone else
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>>93139815
>I did try to make it dodge pointing out weaknesses like most of the non-Darkness/paracausal-enabled races in favour of a more "here's a delicious pile of cocaine FOR YOU" approach.
Ah well now that you point it out and Im rechecking the Jump... Yeah I can see that a bit.
The winnower can be danm convincing in that Jump though at least for the human bit.
Definitely makes it feel like the Darkness Jump is the blatantly better option at least compared to our current Light jump.
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>>93139836
Millions, so long as nobody gets any bright ideas about sabotaging the headsets.
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>>93139836
Do they know about the death game aspect? Maybe some.
Is it the basic game by itself? Only for the gimmick of first good vr game. The game itself was shit.
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>>93139822
>Though that's mostly because I loathe all the extra bookkeeping, which is why I usually stick with only having followers on my chains.
The issue is that I decided to just not worry about what specifically they bought when I import them. I just assume they always get something related to their specialty and don't bother writing any of it down. This has made it so easy to import companions that there's barely any difference between buying a companion and buying a perk at this point.
>>93139838
No. That's 22 excluding followers. 25 with.
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>>93138513
>(You)
>Not "Your mom"
You had one job.
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>>93139847
Well on the bright side I'll never get any degenerative mental diseases.
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>>93139847
Appearance lock since its wording is laughably easy to circumvent by ways that become even easier/more abundant with the uncapped mental development speed.
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>>93139836
>Playing Arguslop in year of our lord 2022
Trannigus is a washed up company rereleasing the same rpgslop. Get some actual taste.
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>>93139872
>No. That's 22 excluding followers. 25 with.
Post full roster
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>>93139735
>Female Vex is called The Conductor and is confirmed to be one of the many copies of Maya
Note that the name is almost certainly meant to parallel the nature of the Witness.

>Mithrax is showing symptoms of the Curse of Nezarec
No...

>>93139772
Anon, if The Conductor/Maya tried to retcon out the Collapse, there's a very real fucking chance the Witness would come back or wouldn't have died in the first place, making all the effort over nearly a decade to finally destroy it moot.
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>>93139513
SB has an alright Fallout 76 jump in their Fallout series folder. For that matter they've also god a Modded Fallout jump, also in their Fallout series folder, which is also pretty great. I don't remember who made 76 but I know modded fallout was made by Songless. I especially like the Coincidental Collector perk from that as it appeals to my loot goblin tendencies.
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>>93139849
The plot (which is trying to push themes like "Eramis has a point, we will shit on Mithrax to make this point", "Savathun and the Hive aren't responsible for their actions somehow, it was all the Witness" and "Completely overlook the Cabal's conquests of countless worlds because they're not Darkness users) is at odds with the actions of the characters themselves (bouncing around shooting things dead in 4-6 man teams, and in one exceptional case a 12 man team). It is a strange situations where the plot is trying to sell a "ruthlessness bad" angle in the most roundabout way possible, where instead of the characters actually trusting Savathun you're just railroaded into working with her instead. Just like instead of being able to grind Eramis into ash while she's a statue everyone just ignores her and lets her defrost when the Witness is done making a point.
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Here is 0.1 of my Encanto jump. Feedback and critique are appreciated.
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>>93139847
Appearance. I'll just lock my original body in a tube somewhere and migrate my consciousness into various avatar-bodies customized to my desires.
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>>93138556
WIP with holes I think would be more acceptable, names might work, but fluffing might not because you might end up without cohesion, perks fluffed in different ways, or with different quality.
I already get some of that from coming to back to projects after a while or in different moods, imagine coming from multiple anons.
You also have a problem with how much help you might get, if it's something too niche, you might not get any help. I can't get discussion even on one of the most sucessful roguelites of the decade.
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>>93139772
I'm convinced that when it comes time to end Destiny 2 and prepare for Destiny 3, Bungie will make it so that the players become the root of all problems. How in their hubris, they led all of society into ruin, and so begins Destiny 3, with it falling onto new characters to take up the mantle and fight against their fallen predecessors. Then they will call it subverting expectations.
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>>93139926
I feel like a few examples for the Custom Gift might be in order, in the notes if not in the perk itself in order to give the reader a better idea of what exactly the general ballpark is.
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>>93139847
Appearance lock because seducing girls with a false image of yourself is dishonest and pathetic.
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>>93139948
Noted.
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>>93139836
Not that many. IIRC some dude even made a video about how it was actually kinda shitty from a video game perspective.
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>>93138503
Touhou, that's the definition of Yukari. Except she's not cannibalistic technically, she eats humans but stopped being human a while ago. She's also socially awkward enough Suika comments on it, likes causing trouble, and is notoriously overpowered.
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>>93139906
Followers: I Miscounted how many followers I had.
>Billith (Dead)
>The Giant (Figment of the Jumper's imagination)
Companions:
>Mary (IB)
>Team Rocket [Jessie, James, & Meowth] (Pokemon Anime)
>Caren Velasquez (Dino Crisis)
>Mike Wired (Dino Crisis)
>Paula Morton (Dino Crisis)
>Regina (Dino Crisis)
And the remaining are all OC, but their names are Hoga Garin, Uesaka Bibian, Itou Yoshihide, Constance Marchal, Estelle Sharpe, Gabriel Kopera, Madeleine Lee, Milic Gajic, Osanna Fiore, Patrick Charrier, Cyla, Zohana Patel, Bobby Ball, The Fieraru Sisters [Monica , Rodika, & Claudia], and Titania Oberon [Clone of the jumper]
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>>93139847
Pass.
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>>93139926
Drawback for being forced to live in a world with ugly 3d cal-arts styling (ie: what Encanto normally looks like) and you'll never get accustomed to how ugly it is?
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>>93139985
Nah.
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>>93139776
Depends on if you intend to import them to make them powerful or if you're just gathering people friends and waifus in your interdimensional spa & resort "warehouse".
If it's the second, there's no maximun. In fact you should go for eight every jump, or more if any jumps allow for more.
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>>93139909
There is also the fact that we have to trust fucking MAYA to not screw up everything and we know her track record.
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>>93139940
>imagine coming from multiple anons
L-lewd.
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>>93139776
However many companions you are willing to keep track of + 1.
Remember, this is a single player game.
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>>93140001
This. There's a non-zero chance she could have retconned the universe out of existence or made it so the Vex instawin or something equally awful. Maya can't fucking be trusted with any measure of cosmic power.
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>>93139969
>Yukari is notoriously overpowered
Can't go to the moon.
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>>93140017
Isn't that because the moon people are stronger and could casually kill her?
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This creature was on your computer watching Star Wars.

What does your Jumper do?
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>>93139940
>I can't get discussion even on one of the most sucessful roguelites of the decade.
what rogue-lite?
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>>93139926
Needs a lewd toggle.
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>>93140001
>Elsie clearly demonstrates that she can't be trusted to explain what she can in fact find time to explain without reuniting with her girlfriend. But it's OK because here's a big dumb robot Clovis to shit on. We will never acknowledge Banshee's existence
>"This character is fine"
>Mara clearly demonstrates that she lost the Dreaming City, got most of her people killed for nothing and abused her brother's devotion. But it's OK because she's slowly learning how awful her decisions have been and estranged her brother, like a small child being taught that no she cannot have the last cookie
>"This character is fine"
>Savathun commits genocide for billions of years but it's OK because she also backstabbed two Disciples right when the Witness was about to catch up to the Traveller
>"This character is fine"

There is a recurring trend here.

>Saint-14 kills Fallen in defence of the City
>"This character must be sent on a mandatory sensitivity arc where he learns how his actions hurt Fallen feelings, in spite of the fact that another Fallen acknowledges Lakshmi kind of had a point right up until she literally let in the Vex"
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>>93140035
No.
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>>93140025
applaud them for their good taste if they were watching the original trilogy or the 3d clone wars series. Introduce them to something better if they were watching anything else. Also figure out how they got access to my computer in the first place. what/who is this anyway?
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>>93140045
It's a porg.

>>93140025
Kill and eat it.
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>>93139926
That chick has the most punchable face I've seen in ages. Which is weird because the creator she's based on looks like a normal person.
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>>93140040
Don't you want to be based?
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>>93140054
That's saying a lot, considering all women have incredibly punchable faces.
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>>93140017
Frankly given how much she's been jobbing I was expecting some other witty retort.

>>93140023
Sort of. The Lunarians have busted magitech that sets them up as the most powerful beings in Touhou (with caveats, but they could instantly obliterate Gensokyo and everyone in it if they really wanted to), and they set it up so Yukari specifically can't go there (she lead an invasion once already and they still have a grudge). Then SSiB was about her going to the moon anyway, a 5D chess move to intentionally let herself get captured and distract them with the vampires so Yuyuko could rob them to scare the people of Eintei.
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>>93140034
Dead Cells.
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>>93140065
Why didn't she just widen the boundary between magic and tech? Or erase the boundary between lunarian knowledge and ignorance?
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>>93139735
>Saint IS a Vex simulation and he still has the Light because thanks to us and the Sundial we put Paracausal energy in the simulation and the REAL Saint is dead
So how hard would it be to make Paracasual simulations with all the Vex perks?
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Who was your Godly parent in Percy Jackson? I'm partial to Demeter if I'm actually going to go for it.
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How bad do you have to fuck up in The Last Airbender to fail your chain because of the rule in the Avatar perk? Am I good as long as I kill Ozai and don't fuck everything up like Korra almost did several times?
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>>93140074
This used to be funny, but based has been in use long enough in its current form that its use as an adjective is implied.
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>>93140085
James Gandolfini
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>>93140085
I'm I bit torn between Helios (because SUN), Hephaestus (because crafting), or Poseidon because the protagonist's powerset gets the most development so we know the most about it.
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So, what does Touma do when the opponent doesn't rely or magic or esper powers, just training and mundane gear and weapons?
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>>93140051
WOL WHY
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>>93140108
I trust Chewbacca's judgement on what meat tastes good in Star Wars.
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>>93140078
Pick one:
>Because Yukari is the sort of person who does the most complex schemes possible to show off her intelligence/do as little actual hard work.
>Because the moonies are shown to have a really irritating habit of copying people's stuff and beating them with it. This includes Reimu being able to channel any god she feels like and come up with any spur of the moment power she needs to win.
>Because provoking the Lunarians was never her goal in either invasion, they were incidental to her real one.
>Because a bunch of really well known Shinto gods live on the moon and we also known being a vaguely popular god in the Outside World makes someone strong enough to shit on Gensokyo as well.
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I'm to understand this "Yukari" is the cute hat girl equivalent of Gilgamesh?
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>>93140106
His superhuman reflexes. And if those fail him, then he's fucked.
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what are some of your favorite jumps that are a little obscure?. Ones that you don't see taken often. I like child of light but I don't think the property is well known. Pic unrelated.
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>>93140117
No, she's Tzeentch. Complete with almost intentionally sabotaging herself because she makes her plans too convoluted and is too lazy to simplify them.
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>>93140122
Farscape and Ted Lasso.
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>>93140117
Well she's certainly a cute hat girl who could fight Gilgamesh, as in full power living Gilgamesh not Archer while acting especially cuntish.
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>>93140037
What trend are you noooticing?
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Sonic deep lore that I had never realized until recently: the Ultimate Lifeform Prototype was based on the murals in the Mystic Ruins that depict Perfect Chaos. Shadow, on the other hand, was based on the murals from Angel Island that depict Super Sonic-which is apparently why Shadow has upturned quills as his default like Super Sonic.
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>>93140106
Calls his orbiters to help him, dragon arm included.
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>>93140084
Probably easy, you likely wouldn't even need every perk. The thing is, as was implied and which this all but confirms, the Vex CAN simulate Paracausality and even replicate its effects near 1:1 once they have a working model. The problem is that they can never get a truly perfect one and being the ultimate autists they are, anything less than perfection is garbage.

You could absolutely just make your own diet paracausality if you didn't have the crippling autism of the Vex, if not outright simulate the stuff completely if you tricked a Guardian like the Young Wolf to transfer Light into it.
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>>93140122
Powder Mage and Lightbringer.
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What are some good jumps to make your own magic system?
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>>93140128
Eh, Yukari would get someone else to do it for her. Probably Ran.
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>>93140128
How effective would portal combat be as a battle tactic against Gil? Point the GoB spam back at him.
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>>93140084
Vex can already do that. The trick is getting theym to STAY paracausal outside the vaults. Judging from the leaks, apparently a structure like the Vault of Glass or Infinite Forest is already sufficient if you; the trick is that you NEED someone else who's already paracausal to keep that simulation going outside Vex-controlled territory.

So yeah, the 800 CP is the major breakthrough. Apart from paracausality being the Black Swan event they need, Vex (Forma de Having Original Thoughts) is unironically OP

>>93140130
"There is no objective morality, and you are wrong and bad for assuming there is, there are only shades of grey"
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>>93140098
All fun options. Heph could be a really fun one and a blacksmithing hammer is a damn fun option too.
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>>93140128
>full power living Gilgamesh not Archer while acting especially cuntish.
It could be Super Saiyan 5 Gilgamesh after becoming Ten Tails Jinchuriki, gaining the Almighty and using the behelit to join the godhand. If I start talking about how I'll never give up on friendship and my hopes and dreams then even my fat ass will beat him.
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>>93140156
>"There is no objective morality, and you are wrong and bad for assuming there is, there are only shades of grey"
All of Bungie's staff got replaced with Winnower adherents when we weren't looking.
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>>93140156
Was the Witness right?
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>>93140176
No, absolutely not.
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>>93140156
How does the 800 perk help?
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>>93140170
Well Yukari doesn't have friends. She has a friend, Yuyuko, she has slaves, who she overrode their personalities, she has people she thinks are friends who openly despise her, but yeah there's like Yuyuko and that's it. She's a manipulative sociopath running off max cunty youkai logic whose only redeeming trait is that she actually does mean well & when she gets involved she usually does fix things... in spite of picking the most irritating, manipulative and dangerous way to do it.
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>>93140156
How hard to kill is someone with the entire human tree at base? Would the Vanguard or Turnip-Kun's team have trouble making them stay dead?
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>>93140122
WOD Mortals, Skylanders, Touhou Luna Nights.
>>93140152
He probably has an anti portal NP since it gets mentioned with Kojirou he would have used an anti dimension fuckery thing, but I guess you can block stuff right out of the gate.
>>93140085
I like Hades stuff, Eris sounds cool too.
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>>93140136
That's not deep lore. It's deep headcanon. It's absolutely perfect worldbuilding but it was in no way, shape, or form intended.
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>>93140149
I remember 2 of Val jumps having an option like this, one of a sword girl Isekai and one of the Legends jump.
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>93140170
Why are metanarrativefags like this?
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>>93140072
Never heard of it. What's it like?
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>>93140128
Could she remove his godhood?
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>>93140218
It's not metanarrative, it's called pattern recognition
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>>93140221
I'm not sure he'd care if she could/did.
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>>93140149
Get a custom cultivation system since it's just chinese magic.
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>>93140106
If he's mad then he brings out the reality warping dragons. otherwise he just gets bullied. Like Aqua (Bara mercenary and double saint), sandsaki Kaori (Patron saint of jobbers), the unamed thugs from biohacker (who like to go in groups to the bathroom), the American soldiers that molested him when he decided to fight the whole world, etc.
Sometimes he gets saved or talks shit out. Normally he just gets beaten up.
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>>93140122
Jet Set Radio Future.
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>>93140221
Does Gil have any hard protection against a sage just pseudo-deleting his spirit (basically forcing it into enlightenment)? Cuz all sages can do that and that's the first thing I'd worry about with Yukari.
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>>93140183
It turns the you-localised part of the Vex pattern itself into a paracausal force.

This is very, very, very important because the Vex's chief learning difficulty is that they cannot grok paracausality. It is like asking a droid to beat up a Jedi. Even if the droid has insurmountable logistical advantages it just cannot overcome space magic plot armour.

>>93140192
Right off the bat? Well you need to bypass Guardian immortality which is much, much easier than was originally assumed because apparently it's much easier to shoot a Ghost to death or crush it in your bare fucking hands than it is to wipe it from existence with ontological weaponry. Then you have to prevent it from resurrecting using the Darkness which probably takes some kind of Light purification effect that WILL be heavily resisted by Shaped Finality. Not to mention whatever asspulls they give Mara as the plot slowly unfolds given she can apparently wage a mind war with Xivu even when not hopped up on Oryx energy. All in all it's definitely a pretty hard 6 man Guardian team effort with multiple stages.

It IS a doable 6 man Guardian team effort though, assuming every single one of those Guardians is Vanguard leader/Osiris (pre-Ghost loss)/Saint-tier. Lesser Guardians probably get slaughtered or corrupted in greater droves than the ones that fought Crota, because the only way I can reconcile the disparity with how easy using Darkness is in Lightfall compared to the Dredgens is that not understanding the rules of Darkness is a slippery slope. The real danger is what happens if one is allowed to grow over time because then Bane of the Swarm has time to proc, they start unlocking more Darkness subclasses with Embrace the Darkness (it was confirmed Nightmares are another Darkness manifestation by the way), Rega can be used cleverly and Shaped Finality and Dredgen You combine to give them what is tantamount your own Echo even if they don't go out of their way to become the Witness 2.0.
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>>93140249
Would swordsmanship so good it warps reality through SHEER SKILL be effected by Imagine Breaker?
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>>93140249
>Who like to go in groups to the bathroom
That's just bros blatters being in sync, nothing wrong with that.
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But how do you seduce Yukari?
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>>93140085
Ishtar's farmer ex, just to fuck with Ishtar.
>>93140122
I think I am the only one that brings up Girls Bravo. So if it is ever mentioned, it is 95% me.
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>>93140262
How fast would the Vanguard realize that one of their newbie Guardians is Darkness Jesus and would they send such a 6 man Guardian team to put them down when they do?
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>>93140268
The swordsmanship itself no. What whatever unnatural consequences it has would be negated.
IB is a reference point to reality, the hope and fear of all magicians, the enemy that negates the system of god, and a tool to restore balance/the world.
Also if you cut it the dragon goes out and that shit is broke af
>>93140275
Idk man. Kinda geh.
>>93140279
I'd rather seduce reimu
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>>93140289
So if you can somehow fuck with the TRUE REALITY(tm) you can counter IB?
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>>93140289
>I'd rather seduce reimu
You can have both.
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>>93140288
What, with EVERYTHING? Stay away from the Last City, prove yourself immediately by shooting some Hive or learn how to do illusions as good as Savathun's, FAST
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>>93140262
>Well you need to bypass Guardian immortality which is much, much easier than was originally assumed because apparently it's much easier to shoot a Ghost to death or crush it in your bare fucking hands than it is to wipe it from existence with ontological weaponry.
Can you upgrade your Ghost with Darkness to make it harder to kill? It seems like mixing Light and Darkness is the winning play in most regards so why not here too?
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>>93140289
Wouldn't Imagine Breaker not work on non-Phase/non-Personal Reality magic that doesn't overlap another universe on the current one?
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>>93139926
>Encanto
Oh hell yes, this means I don't have to use that shitty reddit one

>Unless your gift specifically requires other functions (such as a cooking gift providing a kitchen add-on), the room is essentially a glorified bedroom. Any utilities the room requires are magically provided
I'm kinda sad about this though. One of the concepts for Luisa's room was a rather boring room with a secret theme park and having a full theme park would've been really fun.

>For an additional 400cp (undiscounted), the house can also provide a “gift”, a type of special magical power, to Jumper, their companions, and any of Jumper or companions’ descendants.
I'm assuming this also applies to adopted children, since WoG is that the Madrigal's gift gives powers to adopted children.
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>>93140262
>Then you have to prevent it from resurrecting using the Darkness
You can res Ghosts with Darkness?
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>>93140310
>What, with EVERYTHING?
Well almost everything, skipping the 400 since Shaped Finality should provide that soon enough and the Bane of the Swarm doesn't seem all that appealing. Added Sword Logic though.
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>>93140122
Jet Set Radio Future and Sunset Overdrive. I love me some good mobility.

... I really wish the Sunset Overdrive jump had a perk for the more meta-awareness bullshit that happens. Like when the protagonist proves he has weapons by opening his inventory and showing his gear, or the time he uses his energy bar as a melee weapon to stab a dragon.
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Does jumper neglect his wife and kids because he is working all the time to provide for them?
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>>93140301
Not really. It gets mentioned a lot that if Imagine Breaker really used the pure works as a reference point then Touma wouldn't have lost his memories (the effects would be negated when he touched his head with in) and that rather it has its own way to do it or it's using Toumas own point of view as reference.
>>93140303
Tell me more
>>93140316
IB can be used to destroy phases. In theory you could use it to smash all phases and kill magic (or reduce it to shit)
The truth is that everything said about IB could be wrong because no one really knows the full picture of it. Except maybe Aiwass and that asshole just likes to play with people.
If it helps you (?) in all crossovers his powers work even when the mechanics of the world should make so it doesn't. I'm halfway convinced you can trick him into thinking gravity is magic and he would randomly start negating it.
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>>93140279
I wouldn't. There's way better hus around. There's way worse, sure, but Yukari is on the bottom end. Her fox is a much nicer girl, for instance, and is confirmed to be bullshitting Yukari where it matters. But if you have to... try listening to her go on about trains and steer the conversation away from which kids she likes eating. Gappy is autistic. If that doesn't work, try and prove yourself consistently useful and willing to put up with her shit, and you might have a chance.
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>>93140330
Why CAN'T Touma restore his memories? He did it against the jobber alchemist just fine.
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>>93140318
>I'm kinda sad about this though.
Unfortunately, it didn't make it into the jump, and it would change the price of the item quite a bit.

>adopted children
Could you provide me with a source on this please?
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>>93140330
You can still use magic if you have IB right? I remember something about Saint George possessing Touma and being able to use magic in his body.
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>>93140343
>into the jump
*into the film
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>>93140340
Touma's sheer overwhelming brain damage is an illusion that not even Imagine Breaker can break.
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>>93140319
That was me calling the hypothetical human Darkness build an "it" because let's face it, if the damn thing gets that deep into the Darkness they're probably going to end up less of a person and more of an "it" sooner or later.
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>>93140343
It was a WoG on twitter. Here's a reddit link to some screenshots of the relevant part
https://www.reddit.com/r/Encanto/comments/rvemae/concerning_the_doors_and_the_gifts_from_the/
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>>93140377
Thanks. I can update the item to account for that, sure.
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>>93140262
I assume there would also be a raid wipe mechanic based on the Darkness human figuring out something bullshit like how to become Witness 2.0 midfight?
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Do your companions ever get confused about you saving kittens from trees and shit in one jump and then carrying out genocides in the next?
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What does your jumper believe is someone's minimum net worth for them to deserve human rights?
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Fun idea. I'll approach Izuku as an Ahamkara the day before he'd encounter All Might and grant him his deep heartfelt wish to have the power to be a hero...by giving him Sword Logic.
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>>93140329
No, he neglets them so they will return to try and kill him for the challenge.
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>>93140400
Don't give this bum anything. Just let him suffer.
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>>93140394
No, I simply write a coherent narrative and personality for my Jumper.
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>>93140340
Because his memories being gone are the result of magic lobotomy. Also because he doesn't know how to use neither IB nor his dragon king.
>>93140350
Ten minutes of it left him basically dead despite Germain using every single cheat to protect him and even ended up making a sacrifice so Touma wouldn't die.
So yes. It just won't go as expected.
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>>93140394
This only happens when he gets a drawback that makes him act schizo, in this case the companions get really confused
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>>93140412
HOLY FUCKING BASED.
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>>93140388
Nah the Witness took an entire, extremely Light-experienced civilisation going up to the Veil to happen. Rather the raid wipe mechanic would probably be the Darkness human unleashing a wave of Darkness to just melt the entire stage into Ascendent Plane.

(Unless the Guardians do a platforming puzzle as reality crumbles to escape into either a safer part of the Ascendeant Realm) or back into reality, whereupon all split members have exactly 10 minutes to regroup and flank the Darkness human as he starts monologuing and bypass his paracausal forcefields by shooting at him from different directions and angles)

>>93140400
>>93140412
Nah, this IS making Deku suffer because he'd cry too hard about Sword Logic urging him to kill and then cry even harder about being a bigger Sword Logic failure than Kelgorath
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>>93140412
Basado
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>>93140412
Give him punches. To death.
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>>93140318
>a rather boring room with a secret theme park
I'm reminded of a joke about parents telling their kids that they have a roller coaster in their closet after the kids ask why they keep hearing their mom screaming.
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>>93140412
Psycho I disagree with some of the shit you have to say, but this is undoubtedly the most correct thing you've ever posted.
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>>93140423
I thought it fucked him up because Touma is technically an esper because he did the program. But it's kinda similar to an esper using magic, you can use it but it will fuck up your body.
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>>93140400
>Deku gains new power
>anyone touching Deku orgasms
>best and more powerful of their lives
>touching is highly addictive
How does he use this to be a hero?
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>>93140085
Hephaestus because of a bargain we made in the Greek Myth jump. Otherwise it would have been Artemis for the lols.
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>>93140475
"Stop committing crimes and go see a licensed therapist or I stop touching you."
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>>93140412
I WOULD do that, but he's so bad at being a hero that his main power's going to run out before he even graduates, so I kinda feel obligated to help him out purely so Bakugo's bitch-ass never winds up number 1.
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>>93140440
How does How does Human (forma de Darkness) compare to El Vexo (forma de Paracasual Pattern)?
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>>93140475
This would actually ruin his life because he'd start considering himself a rapist and would believe his hero career would never be possible, even in the capacity of just being a cop. Out of everything thought of in this thread, I'm pretty sure this is Deku's kryptonite considering how he's written.
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>>93140400
I saw a short fanfic where he just has four arms and can shit out Fallen or something. Didn't read it though.
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>>93140462
I'm a bit tired and not thinking right. Let me reformulate my answer after sleeping a bit
Have this excerpt of touma calling Mikoto flat as an apology


>The girl seemed utterly bewildered, but Kamijou paid her no heed.

>He casually reached out his right hand and touched her upper body with his palm as if he was giving her a shove.

>More accurately, he touched the center of the girl’s chest.

>“Wha-wha-wha—!?”

>“Yes, yes, I’ll destroy that illusion. IDTI, IDTI.”

>“Don’t make some nonsensical abbreviation! And where do you think you’re touching me!?”

>“C’mon, it’s not like I want to touch something like this!!”

>“Something like this…!!!???”

>“Don’t go to the pointless effort of making it feel so real. How do you do that anyway?”

>“Th-th-these are not pads!!”

>Mikoto was left trembling on the spot with an expression distorted by various emotions and her entire body turned beet red.

>Kamijou ignored her and started to leave.
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>>93140488
>feel obligated to help him out purely so Bakugo's bitch-ass never winds up number 1.
Maybe be less of a soiboy?
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>>93140445
Would this work for an authority?
Divine control over winds providing potent aerokinesis as well as various other to use the wind such as gathering information by listening to the secrets and knowledge it whispers you. Can focus the power of the wind into a single extremely potent attack even by divine standards but this significantly weakens the Authority for hours afterward and cannot be used again until it recovers.

Likely coming from Boreas or Zephyrus.
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>>93140423
If he won't use the Sword Logic, then what about this?
>Be Ahamkara
>Deku wishes to have the power to be a Hero
>Grant this wish by Taking him, giving him Sword Logic, weaponry, immortality, and a unique power/quirk all his own
>All for the low low price of taking his free will and redefining his existence to being my eternal slave
I'm just going to force him to actually be a hero. And maybe use the Taking process to reshape him into a girl. Don't tell me that Taking can't do that. I'll carve out a new shape for her-whether he likes it or not.
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>>93140480
was the bargain to be bros in every future jump? Might get odd in Danmachi where he is a chick.
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>>93140458
Deku is such a trash antagonist he makes me wish Giorno's plank of wood self would 7 page muda him into a dumpster and steal his job
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7IQE62Vn4_U
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>>93140535
Never read/watched danmachi but being bros with a blacksmith tomboy is perfectly fine
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>>93140528
You need to make it stronger.
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>>93140540
*Protagonist
Don't know how that ended up as antagonist.
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>walk up to Deku
>tell him about DBZ and the power within
>tell him the power of such people could be his
>make him Gohan
Did I win?
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>>93140489
Human wins by bouncing around a lot, collecting powerups, solving puzzles and bonking El Vexo over the head a lot. Because El Vexo only really has one (1) source of true paracausality and the rest is just science bullshit enough to compete while Human (forma de Darkness) is nearly nothing but Darkness.

...I just realised I fucked up and forgot to write a second 400 MD perk for Human but you know what, it's okay, because EVERY single fucking Darkness subclass has been treated as this gamebreaking revelation that makes Guardians somehow even more broken and apparently a couple hours' MAX training with Ikora lets Zavala use Stasis to be battlefield-effective. Unlocking one (1) Darkness subclass is apparently the powerup that let a team of veteran Guardians take out Rhulk on short notice. Unlocking two (2) plus a trip into the Traveller while the Witness was corrupting everything is apparently all it took to unlock Prismatic.
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>>93140535
Nah he would forge me a body and I would go and show up Herc.
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>>93140543
She is so "ugly" almost every mortal would fuck her on request. She just wears an eye patch. Not to be confused with Ishtar where just looking at her makes you nut and touching her makes you an eternal slave. That is until Freya turns up and just looking at her makes you yandere for life. Expect Bell and all the other people that see he at parties. They are fine for unknown plot reasons.
Also Loki is a lesbian with no tits.
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>>93140554
>Hephastus steals Hera's titty milk to build it.
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That Danmachi talk makes me wonder: what could a Heracles level demigod of Hephaestus create in Empires of Antiquity?
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>>93140568
Whatever the fuck you want
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>>93140554
12 labors? A child could do that. HMRC cant be a real man until he does at least 13 for Zeus while drunk.
>>93140564
I mean, how much is godly tiddy milk worth? Pretty sure jumper could strike a deal with her for some. Would a magic compass that always points at her hubby work as payment?
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>>93140544
Really? I had imagined it was already good for being a Campione's main combat authority.

Fight using divine tier aerokinesis with a version of Lugia's aeroblast as an alpha strike/finishing move, figure out enemy weaknesses or the location of treasure by listening to the wind, and all sorts of weird stuff you could figure out with a literal divine command over the most ever present element on earth.
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>>93140563
>Also Loki is a lesbian with no tits.
I'm mildly bothered to learn Loki isn't the kind of freaky he was in the legends.
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>>93140570
>Wrestling the hydra with a giant mecha
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>>93140587
Danmachi gods are basically OCs with some thematic resemblance from what little I remember of it
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>>93140568
Almost anything if he has the materials, in Fate a braindead dying Hephaestus is able to create the god killing bow in an instant.
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>>93140587
>Loki isn't the kind of freaky he was in the legends
It might've been better overall if they had Loki play straight man to Ganesha by putting them in a horse mask as a nod to that one bit from Loki's legend. Mostly so Ganesha would have slightly more personality than every sumo wrestler in fighting games ever if only by contrast of singing a one note duet instead of a half-note aria.
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>>93140570
You could invent gatcha.
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>>93140587
Everyone knows Loki has no tits and make fun of her for it. Bestia laughs about it but hates being called Loli Big Boob. Loki wants to be a leabian, but all the mortals that work for her keep beating the crap out of her for trying to play with their tits. Only the local shota guild master gets that honor, because apparently all women want to fuck the hobbits and they keep swarming him.
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>>93140582
Authorities get power crept as the series goes on before going back to say "actually the ones from before were always just as bullshit".

Add in some more bullshit with things like turning into wind to avoid damage and pseudo teleport.
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>>93140582
Yeah but lacks hax and a way to destroy the world like other authorities have.
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>>93140548
You didn't even need to correct yourself. He's such a joke nobody would believe he would survive anything other than a cushy protagonist position where the narrative sucks his dick. Deku could only be the antagonist to a Teletubby or a Magical Pony.
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What'd you guys do in Hotline Miami? I never know where to put it in my chain: it seems like an early jump but if taken that way it seems extraordinarily lethal if you do things or boring if you do nothing.
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>>93140595
But Appollo was really a gay pedo in real myth, iirc. In Danmachi he goes up and beyond to break off some of that albino MC. Even raping his own workers until they get Stockholm Syndrome and start fighting over who his favorite is.
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>>93140630
Never jumped, I played the first game but remember complaints about the story from the 2nd one. I think it had something to do with the place getting nuked.
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>>93140615
I figured the hax was there but required mastering the power, as the user would need to figure out all the weird bullshit they could do with conceptual authority over the winds beyond smash/cut that fucker right there.

Do authorities need to be able to destroy the world? I thought the big feats were thinks like destroy a medium sized country/large American state, which normally required a power that went all in on firepower like emptying John Pluto Smith's entire salvo at once or took time like Voban destroying a nation with a storm?
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>>93140647
Not but nothing wrong with the power to destroy The world
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>>93140655
Destroying the world sucks tho, I keep most of my stuff in the world, I just want to destroy that heretic god for his Authorities and perhaps a few city blocks to remind the local magic associations they need to give me more stuff.
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If I create items and powers with reality stone from the marvel cosmic, are they limited tho its universe origin or could I use it everywhere? Like creating a sword that can blow up a planet and use it in another universe?
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>give Deku a power
>masculinity empowerment
>the more he acts like stereotypical hypermasculine action hero the stronger and tougher he gets
>the power builds up over months and acting contrary to it like panicking over something suggestive or breaking out in tears resets it
Can he make it?
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Hey, is anyone particularly attached to the Hornsent perkline as is? I've just found out I've overlooked something VERY important that means I should probably buff/replace a lot of the Hornsent perks and that finally explains Marika's motivations for the massacre and attaining godhood
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>>93140676
Depends slightly on the specifics of which reality stone you used, but as long as you were in the universe that infinity stone/gem originated from then it should function fine since the resulting object should be made from matter/energy/essence/whatever originating from that same universe. Might end up a bit wonky depending on how it goes about blowing up planets, as something like drawing force from Cytorak might have spotty reception if it just pulls from wherever they're loafing rather than stuffing the thing in the sword itself, for instance.
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>>93140630
Killed mobsters a bunch, then I went and killed the mastemrinds behind 50 Blessings because Biker really dropped the ball by letting them live to get the place nuked.
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>>93140676
I am assuming you are talking about the purchasable item, reality gem. If that is the case then I would say it works in whatever dimension because you paid for it.
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>>93140400
>>93140440
There is in fact an SB crossover fic of Izuku having been sent into the Sea of Screams as a kid and being raised by the Hive under the Sword Logic. Naturally, he is considered completely bugfuck insane by literally everyone since he thinks "murder is love" is something that should be expressed whenever possible. Sadly, it didn't live long.

There was also another one where an Ahamkara turned Izuku into an Ahamkara himself, which was pretty neat but I'm unsure of its status.
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Reminder that 50% of Gardevoirs are male. Gardevoirs. Not Gallades.
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>>93140724
Hot!
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>>93140489
If the Vex have access to perfectly simulated paracausality, then they literally win. The entire point of the setting is that the presence of paracausality is the only thing keeping them from winning the current Flower Game as they did all the others since its a new set of rules meant to subvert them courtesy of the Gardener and the instant they completely figure it out, then it's all over.

If the Vex had access to full paracausality, even the Witness would have been eaten since they'd no longer have to be dedicated all their resources (autism) to trying to figure out the new rulebook.
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>>93140721
>SB
>crossover
>fanfic
Into the trash it goes.
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>>93140625
The small horses have casual mountain busting later on. And you know, Discord. I don't think Deku would be much more than a one episode villain.
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>>93140724
If 50% of Ralts are male and some of them end up as Gallade while all females all end up as Gardevoir it stands to reason less than 50% of Gardevoir are male.
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>>93140742
We have the stats, anon.
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>>93140655
>Whisper and Howl (Boreas)

>Chant: “The world is beneath the winds and thus the world is within my domain. My sword is everywhere, my ears hear everything, and the land is torn asunder at my whim.”
>Effect: This Authority grants the user divine command over the air and wind, allowing the user to wield all manner of powers relating to the wind. At it’s simplest the user possesses extremely powerful aerokinesis suitable for use in battles amongst Gods and Campiones, by focusing the full might of this Authority in one strike it would be possible to rip such a foe to shreds in a single move. Beyond such blunt applications this enables a wide range of powers such as divining information by listening to the wind, flying by riding the winds, evading attacks by turning into the wind itself, and much more given time and mastery.
>Downsides: The most powerful wind blasts this Authority is capable of seriously weaken it for a time after being used and the more esoteric uses of its power require a great deal of time to master.

This with Ride of The Valkyries I posted before and Will of Magic should provide an excellent toolset for a young Campione out to make a nuisance of himself.
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>>93140683
>spoiler
Motivation?
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It's crazy how everyone in Marvel NYC loves Spider-Man so much and act like this dude is the only hero in the city.
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>>93140782
He's easier to spot moving around.
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>>93140782
It's crazy how Ock made a better spooder than Peter.
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>>93140782
Daredevil is C*tholic.
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I'm going to interpret the ensuing silence as "I don't care about being a Hornsent, I just want/want to be bussy. You and I both know that background is only there for lore purposes, hardly anyone wants to be disgusting proto-Omen and the ones that do just got the Crazed Caca Consumer Capstone anyway". One final trial and I can ACTUALLY get back to buildmaking.

Might throw in some other stuff if I'm feeling nice/not exhausted.

>>93140775
Remember all the walking jars? Before the coming of the Golden Order, the Hornsent had a tradition of grinding up human flesh into jars as "guardian gods", and shaman flesh was deemed particularly malleable for those purposes. Marika's braid is found in the abandoned Shaman Village; it's also the one she put the little Erdtree in. She hates Hornsent/giants/pretty much everything nonhuman until her son brokered a peace with the dragons that made her discover/use as her line of propaganda that dragons are Erdtree-OK, and apparently it spiralled out of control until even Marika herself thought things went a little far as people started stabbing skeletons and other "powerless upstarts" excluded from the Golden Order. Basically Marika went off to become a god to overthrow the Hornsent, but by the time she came back the Hornsent had already turned all her friends and family into jar-flesh
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>>93140782
Because his competition is either insane in a way you'd expect from Marvel, or they're a literal blind guy.
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>>93140801
I don't play soulslikes, so I don't have anything to offer, sorry.
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>>93140801
If you had to rate the Erdtree DLC on a scale of 1-10 overall, where would you put it? What if you had to rank individual elements, like gameplay, environments, story, etc.?
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>>93140801
Not gonna lie, I have only the faintest clue regarding Elden Ring lore and I only really asked because no one else did.
So, a revenge quest that ended bitterly, then?
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>>93140801
Hadn't you stopped making jumps? Or does updating not count?
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>>93140801
Oh wait yes this reminds me I want to stuff people into jars as batteries, lets do that.
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>>93140827
Anon. . . he JUST released the Darkness jump. Shard saying he's done making jumps is just a tradition, it doesn't mean anything.
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>>93140827
Updating does not count, no. The jump must be done to my satisfaction dammit. I will be done making jumps after this one.

>>93140821
And a bloody crusade that spiralled out of control, yeah.

>>93140818
I'm not fucki' kotaku, go play it yourself or watch the questlines on youtube if you mistrust FromSoft/10

>>93140834
I WILL BE DONE MAKING JUMPS AFTER THIS ONE
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Post a picture of the last character your jumper masturbated to.
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>>93140801
I am skip all the lore in souls game, so I have no idea what's going on besides builds, weapons and the boss looking cool.
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>>93140840
Shard. . . I really hate to break this to you. But how many things do you like are liable to be getting rage inducing reboots or additions in the foreseeable future?
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>>93140854
I made Detective Comics Comics, I am clearly not a clever man
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>>93140840
>And a bloody crusade that spiralled out of control, yeah.
I'm guessing this knocks Marika down a few points on the "YOU SOLELY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS"-o-meter?
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>>93140857
But you are a very good jumpmaker.
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>>93140801
So Marika is a dindu?
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>>93140801
Of you’re not really removing anything then I don’t think there’s any reason to complain.
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>>93140841
What if I masturbated to porn of my own jumper?
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>>93139375
it all depends on how it's handled, telekinesis is the ability to move things at distance, depending on how few limitation it has it encompassess an enormous range of powers.
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>>93139662
For as bad as he is, everyone else in power is worse so letting him do his thing is completely justifiable.
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>>93140871
Is that what your jumper masturbated to tho?
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>>93140866
At the very worst I can probably move some stuff to general perks if I need to. If. I mean, Hornsent don't exactly scale very high if one (1) fucking demigod and his army of fellow exiles were able to do this to them.
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>>93140871
Probably fine, unless your jumper is a sapient bunch of kitchen tiles.
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>>93140801
I njst now got onto the thread after finally getting and starting to play the DLC. I haven't checked your updated stuff yet, but I certainly wish to be a Hornsent now All their cool psuedo-celt gear is pretty neat, the Lion is badass, and those lanky fuckers with the two chakram are also pretty rad. Though again I've only just started the DLC so I can't give you any more details on how I feel about what I want for Hornsent stuff, especially since right now before I put the game down for the day I just stumbled onto a giant fuckin on the ground full of fat Blood bois and blobs of rotting flesh before fighting a fucking Nuckavele that's apparently guarding Trina who's a fucking flower for some reason!? This shit is confusing and I get the feeling my insistence on avoiding everything that looks like progress is going to just confuse me further.
Anyway, I don't thing I ever gave your Jump a thorough look since it came out. Might as well look at the current stuff now and see how well I can fulfill my Crucible Fanboy ambitions
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>>93140801
Make Hornsent option.
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>>93140864
Noooooo, not in the slightest. What she did was a reactionary response to how terrible the Hornsent were, but everything else is on her being a raging psychotic narcissist who chose to double down.
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>>93140170
>>93140218
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>>93140801
What's a hornsent?
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>>93140801
So what I'm understanding is that the Greater Will is actually kind of okay and that basically everything that went wrong is entirely the result of Marika fucking things up for everyone? That about right?
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>>93140801
>spoiler
Seems kinda hypocritical that despite hating Jar Making she seems to allow to to keep happening in the Lands between.
Actually, do we ever get an explanation why the Minor Erdtrees have those large jars around them?
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>>93140930
New Race of people in Elden Ring DLC. Basically proto-Omen, people who had a sort of animist religion and would invoke and treat with many gods and had a strong connection to the Crucible, causing them to usually have masses of Horns sprouting from the head and face.
Pretty rad aesthetics overall.
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>>93140930
>If you fail in your duties to the world or if the Firelord is not defeated and the war ended by the time this jump is over, you will fail your chain.
Obviously we need to defeat the Firelord and end the war but what exactly would constitute failing in the duties of the Avatar?
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>>93140936
Yes. According to the DLC lore, the "unalloyed" Greater Will is literally just benevolent divine miracles and healing for everyone. It was Marika 'refining' it into the Golden Order and using it to create her empire of mass genocide fueled by anger and hatred towards the Hornsent/giants/everyone non-human that ultimately fucked everything up.
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>>93140946
>what exactly would constitute failing in the duties of the Avatar?
Big spirit disasters going unresolved, new major conflicts that disrupt the balance of the four nations etc.

Basically, if the spirit world and the normal world + the nations aren't in balance by the end that's on you.
>>93140942
Well that's cool.
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Honestly, the Greater Will sounds like some sort of benevolent late-stage jumper.
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I just learned Redo of Healer guy is also the Slime Tensei guy.
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>>93140888
I'll recognize these trps by offering tribute of more annoying questions. What is the difference in utility between Shaped Finality and Clarity Control, anyway? what do they do that the other can't? Cause to be honest, it all just looks like darkness based power copying progression fantasy stuff to me, but I might just be blind. So what do they do on their own, and what do they do together?
Sorry for how incomprehencible that question may be, I'm typing this while on sleeping pills. Here's a hopefully more coherent request; could you add more/more accessible 50 MD options to the Destiny the Darkness jump? Or am I just going to have to live with only Fallen and Hive getting to purchase odd numbers of companions?
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>>93140974
Nah, too hands off. Jumpers tend to be paranoid shits and like to constantly check in on the people they Empower to make sure they haven't done some fuck shit with their gifts.
Greater Will meanwhile just gave a bunch of goodies, saw people abuse them, then peaced out for some cigarettes and milk
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>>93140938
I mean it could be that jar making isn't actually allowed, and that's the reason WHY the minor Erdtrees have all those shattered jars around them. Marika might've set up a "smash the fucking jars" policy, but by the time you start the game that's so low down the priority list for basically everyone that most people just ignore them.
>>93140964
Wait, what stuff gives the info the Greater Will is just pure good?
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>>93140978
Wow, the MC is a Jumper?
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>>93140978
A different Slime Tensei than the one you're probably thinking of.
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>>93140992
No, they were made by the same dude.
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What was that series where everything revolves around drawing power from tiddy milk?
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>>93140998
What? These LN authors have no original ideas.
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>>93141001
The MC wrote the stories? I hate that meta shit.
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>>93141007
Greek mythology apparently.
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>>93141007
Seikon no qwasar
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>>93141007
A great series with deep lore.
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>>93140988
Except the Minor Erdtrees didn't exist until after the Shattering, and they only bolted up in response to the Erdtree getting damaged
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>>93141009
NTA, but it appears to be this.
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>>93141007
>>93141015 this but we only have a shitty Doom Knight jump
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>>93140840
>I will be done making jumps after this one.
>>93140840
>I WILL BE DONE MAKING JUMPS AFTER THIS ONE
Ah. I see. Sure, you will stopmaking jumps... Sure, you tell yourself that.
Say how are you with platformers? I know a lot of indie platformers with that Dark Souls/Elden Ring type of lore you can "not" make jumps.
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Final version of the jump
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>>93141007
There was another one thread mentioned ages ago, dunno if it was just high fantasy or a full on isekai but I vaguely recall mentions of a dwarf or something... From cursory searching to try and dredge up the memory, it might be Shinju no Nectar - which is basically more of the same from that mangaka. If it helps it would've been before we were demoted to blueboard but came up some time after 2017, sometime back just before the Seikon no Qwaser jump or when it was still relatively new...
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>>93140690
I meant more of creating items in my universe of origin and then bringing them outside of it to other universes
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>>93141076
>not only less than 50 pages
>less than 30 pages
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>I have nothing to say and yet I must comment.
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>>93141083
Then give him half a jump. All the cool anons are doing it and you're interested enough to actually open the file.
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>>93141076
Got impregnation by horse in there?
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>>93141076
We're still paying for origins? Really? I thought we had moved past that as a community.
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>>93141083
I bet I could get it below 20 if I work on the spacing

>>93141099
No, but you're free to do so
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>>93141116
With the allfather perk, do we gain our lost eye back post-jump?
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>>93141076
NIce work, a fine addition to the Chain I've been building, now time for the Gaint/God Personification of Transformation to rise and survive. in some time
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>>93141116
>I bet I could get it below 20 if I work on the spacing
If you think this is based, it's not.
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>>93141136
Your seething just makes me harder.
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>>93141141
Anon it’s right there as it’s own option.
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>>93141116
Shit nevermind, I see the giants. Anyways can I companion multiple Valkyries?
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>>93141116
>work on the spacing
Cutting the margins down actually does wonders for that. You don't normally need that much for the upper/lower margins unless you're using page numbers or headers/footers and junk like that - which you shouldn't really be using because they get in the way of grabbing the text for reference/formatting.
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Changelog

>Upgraded 1-200 CP Hornsent perkline to include Divine Invocation lore
>Moved Alternative Communion to general perks
>Upgraded Dragon Communion with both priestess and transformation purchases
>Updated notes about Dragon Communion
>Added Spear of the Impaler
>Added Stone-Sheathed Sword
>Added Anvil Hammer
>Added Dragon Slayer's Armament

And now, my jumpmaker's watch is over.

>>93140913
There was one in the previous update, it is now more lore-accurate.

>>93140902
It's good to know at least someone's using it.

>This shit is confusing
Yeah, I missed the mark for Hornsent on the first go because I completely overlooked 2 villages while hunting for clues near the bosses

>>93140930
So like, you know Omens?
They're the dudes the Omen curse came from. The prehuman civilisation that used to worship great beasts and the ghostly remains of the dead.

Marika killed them all because they turned everyone in her village into pots to worship, probably part of why she decided to confine death too

>>93140938
It's not clear if people are still making jars, if it's just the existing jars still being around, or if someone from far beyond the Lands Between is making jars. Might be a "I don't want to hurt the existing jars" kind of thing?

>why
Given the sacrifice thing going on, I suspect Marika put them there out of mourning

>>93140936
Yep. Unalloyed Gold is unironically Traveller levels of altruism, goodwill and healing/restoration

Also wow I take it back, Marika really is my Jumper but with tits.
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>>93141172
>And now, my jumpmaker's watch is over.
Congratulations! You'll be back.
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>>93141133
Yes. This is merely the way you gained great wisdom beforehand
>>93141136
Based on what
>>93141150
Yes, take the whole bunch if you want and can afford it
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>>93140984
>>93140984
>difference in utility
Shaped Finality is like using the Avatar State while Clarity Control is like having a font of magical element to experiment with. The former offers more long term personal power and versatility for experimentation, while the latter lets you actually get oodles of Darkness to study or muck around in other stuff without actually needing to understand the Darkness at a metaphysical level. It can also be considered a Darkness amp you can use as to make not!rituals easier, or amplify your existing powers.

>50 MD
Oh. Um. Lemme think of some.

>>93141043
>>93141176
My will is strong, I have gone through BOTH Blasphemous games without succumbing to temptation because we already have a jump where you can go there via in-universe crossover, the castlevania knockoff one about the girl with the curse
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Chainbutt: You get a chain. However you have to select 20 jumps. To determine where you go select two of those jumps, Assign one heads and one tails then flip a coin. Whatever way the coin lands is your first jump. However both jumps are removed from your list of options you are able to select. After that repeat the process for your next jump all the way until you reach your 10th and final jump.
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>>93141076
nice, thanks for the jump
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>>93141108
Not HDManon but it makes sense in context because all the origins outside of mortal give massive innate advantages to the point of being perks in and of themselves.
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>>93141076
>You may select any aspect other than speed to be supernaturally gifted in this way.
In addition to the listed effect or as a replacement to it?
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Has your jumper ever had to resort to prostitution?
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>>93141224
As a replacement
But you can buy this perk multiple times
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>>93141076
>guide you to great prices
You sure you don't mean prizes?
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>>93141188
Couldn't you just randomize the list order and take 10 in some arrangement such that you only have to suffer the sting of disappointment once rather than potentially 10 times assuming you actually wanted to go to all 20 jumps on the initial list?
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>>93138599
Be a Primordial in Spirits of Creation or via the Gunstar scenario. In 2E the Yozi are basically metaphors for mental illnesses and their thought processes are manifested as separate beings that communicate telepathically with their superior.
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>>93141232
Sure that would be fine as well. As long as it ends up the same I don't care how you get there.
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Rolled 2, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2 = 13 (10d2)

>>93141188
This sucks.
>Invincible or Diebuster
>World Seed or Generic Gamer
>Master PC or TSF World
>Victim Girls or Elzi 2
>Weakness of Beatrice or Inheritance Cycle
>Maoyuu Hero And Demon King or KonoSuba
>Forerunner Saga or Supreme Commander
>Monster Girl Encyclopedia or Peaceful Isekai
>Anno 2070 or Atelier Ryza
>Exalted Heaven's Reach or First Age
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>>93140128
Alter Ego Gilgamesh is stronger than living Gilgamesh.
Also, Archer is stronger than living Gilgamesh post-Snake.
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>>93141229
No no no, he's just channeling some of those Capital One ads.
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>>93141225
Resort to it?
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>>93141172
Did you already finish the DLC? Isn't supposed to be like 40 hours? Or did you just head straight for the bosses?
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>>93141246
>Diebuster
>World Seed
>TSF World
>Victim Girls
>Weakness of Beatrice
>Maoyuu Hero And Demon King
>Forerunner Saga
>Monster Girl Encyclopedia
>Anno 2070
>Exalted First Age
Well I'm happy with this. Kinda wanting Peaceful Isekai more than MGE but I still picked it for a reason.
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>>93141229
Probably
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>>93141172
Still got typos to fix.
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>>93141187
>My will is strong, I have gone through BOTH Blasphemous games without succumbing to temptation
Maybe it let's you go there, but does it really allow your jumper to go and fix the mistakes the Grievous Miracle has made in allowing free will and a cicle of sin and penitence? Are you really content with just that?
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>>93141201
Nah. It's bullshit.
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>>93141201
the modernized solution to that is to make weaker origins give cp
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>>93141290
Yep.
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>>93141260
>extend yourself day in day out for long periods of time without ever tiring at all.
Exert
>Who would dare thread on you?
Tread
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>>93141108
>I thought we had moved past that as a community.
When?
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Rolled 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2 = 16 (10d2)

>>93141188
>Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced or Peaceful Isekai
>Zelda Link To The Past or Castlevania Portrait of Ruin
>Monster Girl Encyclopedia or JK Exorcist
>Skylanders Spyro's Adventure or Magic the Gathering Iconics
>Neptunia or Honkai Impact
>Shin Megami Tensei II or Fate Grand Order
>Dragonball Xenoverse or Blazblue Phase Zero
>Mario 64 or Sonic and the Black Knight
>Larfleeze or Galacta Daughter of Galactus
>DYN Freaks or Angel Notes

Sure, I'm game. What bullshit chain will I end up with this time?
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>>93141308
>JK Exorcist
Make sure to stock up on ice cream.
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>>93141188
Go fuck yourself.
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>>93140262
>Even if the droid has insurmountable logistical advantages it just cannot overcome space magic plot armour.
Laughs in HK droids
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>>93141317
I've killed billions of them in SW vidya. Billions.
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>>93141308
>Final Fantasy
>Castlevania
>JK Exorcist
>Magic the Gathering
>Honkai Impact
>Shin Megami Tensei
>Blazblue
>Mario 64
>Larfleeze
>Angel Notes

There is absolutely no cohesion here whatsoever but I guess that's kind of appropriate for jumpchain.

Also Kiana is getting mindfucked into jumpers toy.

>>93141312
I hate the ice cream. Fuck blade for making the ice cream. Why do I have to be so obsessed with stat boosting items?

But nah, I'm a monster, I can just eat the girl for the same effect.
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>>93141324
But it tastes so good anon. Here why don't you sit down and relax with a nice bowel of chocolate soft serve. Yes that pun is intentional.
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>>93141298
Thank you
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>>93141254
Straight through the bosses.

>>93141269
Tired. Don't care. Wanna go back to buildmaking.

>>93141317
And yet by the Empire's day, there aren't a lot of HK droids left but there are a lot of Jedi left. Funny how that works.

>>93141269
Don't care. Tired. Sick of jumpmaking. Wanna go back to actually jumping.

>>93141270
>go through the portal
>do my thing
...yes?
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>>93141269
And yes, I did in fact apparently not care so much I replied to you twice.

jumpmaking was a mistake
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>>93141339
Mistakes were a mistake.
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>>93141331
I will eat the ice cream machine and nothing you can do will stop me.
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>>93141348
But will it keep making ice cream inside you?
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>>93140549
>He is now the strongest hero because unlike Gohan he has the drive to be da best waku waku
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It has been 0 days since Shard officially swore off jumpmaking.
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Other than isekai at peace are there any good perks for waifuing eldritch horrors who don't have a concept of love or sex?
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>>93141188
Well I did it the old fashioned way here is what I got.

Jump 1 Sekirei or Haruhi = Sekirei
Jump 2 Yugioh GX or Child of Light = Child of light
Jump 3 Pokemon Anime or Undertale = Pokemon Anime
Jump 4 Fallout 1 or Batman the Animated Series = Fallout 1
Jump 5 Overlord the Anime or DC Occult = Overlord the Anime
Jump 6 Lunar Legend Tsukihime or Fate/Grand Order = Fate/Grand Order
Jump 7 High School DxD or Journey to the west = High School DxD
Jump 8 Anima Beyond Fantasy or Fate/Empire of Antiquities = Anima Beyond Fantasy
Jump 9 = Tenchi Muyo or Fate/Stay Night = Tenchi Muyo
Jump 10 = Fate/Garden of Avalon or Fate/ Oasis of Fantasy = Fate/ Garden of Avalon

All in all I am mostly pleased but missing out on some of those jumps hurt.
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>>93141350
No.
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>>93141372
Sad.
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>>93141108
Nigga Shard's destiny jump also had you pay for origins.
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>>93141362
Bloodborne has a perk form making eldritch abominations like you more and Haruhi has one for teaching such entities humanity, combine them and a harem perk and you are good. You may not need the bloodborne perk honestly but I still think it helps.
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>>93141380
Seriously tho, that item is hilariously good except for the part that it's fucking scat.
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>>93141389
Who is Nigga Shard?
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>>93140054
You don't like Disney's ""dork"" female protagonists? They are so relatable!
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Remember to support small businesses, Jumpers. Buy your slaves local!
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>>93141172
>Also wow I take it back, Marika really is my Jumper but with tits
I can still fap to that.
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>>93139836
everyone.

In SAO you can cook/eat whatever you wan, it can taste as amazing as anything in the real world, and not only will you not gain weight from it, it will also fool your body into thinking you've actually eaten, making you stop being hungry. it's the perfect tool if you're watching your figure, cant afford to eat fancy, or have dietary restrictions(It doesen't matter if you're vegan or alergic to nuts, you can eat whatver you want).

Bein able to Meet up with all your friends across the world instantly in some beautiful landscape is also a major advantage, since it literally feels like you're physically there with them. Hell you can even have sex, like imagine the impact that would have on long distance relationships.
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>>93141076
Have a build I made just because I thought it'd be funny to have the god of peace be an unkillable absolute murder machine with a short temper.

Mortal
Hard to kill - 300
Scary Aspect - free
Fearless - free
Natural Warrior - 100
Might - 200
Runner - 200
Jumper the Dragonkiller - 300
Unending Stamina - 100
Fear - 100
Domain (Peace) - 200
Might of Thor - 400
(bunch of free items)
Dainsleifr - free
Vassal - +100
Viking Saga - +100
Memory Potion - +200
Easily made promises - +100
Wrath - +100
Missing Eye - +100
Blood Oath - +100
Rude - +100
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>>93141420
>Hell you can even have sex, like imagine the impact that would have on long distance relationships.
Then why did I read that fanfic where the MC hadn't busted in years and he blasted like a firehose hooked up to a reservoir when he finally nutted in the real world?
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>>93141362
Generic Erotic Horror
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>>93141422
>there will be peace when everyone's dead
Thanks for the build
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>>93141172
Very nice! Thank you very much
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>>93141422
But for you to get a domain you need a god background
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>>93141335
Thank you for all that you have done for us Shard
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>>93141426
You actually have to toggle the ethics menue off. By default players can only strip to their underwear and dont feel their genitals, but one click of a button and you can start jerkin off and having sex. A lot of players dont actually know about this.
When Asuna and Kirito hooked up she had to explain this to him, and talked about some other girls explained it to her, and how she's been using it to masturbate.
Afterwards is when Kirito unloads 2 years worth of semen into her.
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>>93141312
>>93141324
I'm hoping the update will have a version of that drug that increases boob size and spiritual power that actually works as advertised rather than just being a trap. That way I can empower my minions *and* give them massive titties at the same time.
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>>93141415
Isekai dudes are crazy. They're the type of people that would buy a planet off Frieza if they were reincarnated into Dragon Ball Z.
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>>93141335
Changelog?
See you soon when your jumpmaking autism flairs again
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>>93141362
I think the noble capstone in exalted infernals might be useful for that? If not then I think there might have been something else for it?
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>>93141439
Aww, fuck. Well, imagine I piled 600 points worth more drawbacks there to be a mortal-god hybrid.

Where does Might + Thor's Might even put you at?
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>>93141446
>Afterwards is when Kirito unloads 2 years worth of semen into her.
Just imagine the nurse walking in to check on these people only to find Kirito just nutted half a bucket of jizz onto himself seemingly for no reason.
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>Where does Might + Thor's Might even put you at?
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>>93141452
Oh right, just added some 50 CP items
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>>93141172
Bro... A cp transfer? Id like to create an elden beast / elden ring expy, and for that I need to include quite a bit of my own Co into one of the companions. Btw, if one has the power and form of the elden beast, could one actually assume the form of an elden ring and go "inside" a person? This reality warping power becoming a power that is then used by another?
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Reminder that in universe the cast majority of SAO's content was AI generated. Like we're straight up told how the central AI constantly browses through the Internet, mainly looking at myths/legends/fairy tales and then generates new content based on those.
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>>93141451
I agree, and this is a great way to put it, but the fact that that's one of the few Isekai MCs who actually immediately fucked his bitches makes this a bittersweet comment. It's like Japs can't get turned on unless something morally questionable is going on.
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>>93141488
We are like less than a decade away from having most of our media produced that way anyways.
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>>93141335
Which origin is the most unkillable?
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>>93141172
Thanks for the jump Shard. But I gotta say, what would YOU say, is the power of the elden ring? I thought in order to become a god you need the elden ring, the elden ring seemed to be the ultimate reality warping power, but now even after the dlc it has not shown much at all? What can it do? I don't really understand what the gate of divinity does in-lore, and how much it contributed to Marikas power.
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>>93140840
>I WILL BE DONE MAKING JUMPS AFTER THIS ONE
Read the sign.
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>>93141487
>CP transfer
Eh. I OK'd it in another thread, I'll chuck it in.
>go "inside"
Based on what little we know of how the Elden Ring works, no I don't think so. The "vassal beast" was inside the Elden Ring already when it was sent down to Marika by the Greater Will apparently, and she brandished some kind of golden rune(?) prior to the founding of the Golden Order (which, being what the Elden Beast embodies, logically has to predate it's arrival).

The Elden Beast is the embodiment of the Golden Order in the sense a Stand is the embodiment of it's owner's fighting spirit, Stands can't go into people to turn them into Dio or Jotaro

I'm pretty sure a god can probably just find a way to give someone demigod/Elden Lord-like power another way though. There is a talisman of Godfrey drinking sap in the DLC but honestly it's still inconclusive what's responsible for his gains when Placidusax isn't RIPPED by dragon proportions and the Giant-Crusher states men used to be built different back in the day.

>But Heaven's Door-
No.
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>>93141496
Given the schlop that mass media corps are shitting out now that's not a bad thing.

>>93141488
So SAO has futa Draenei, got it.
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>>93141188
>Short chain
Maybe I will finish it for once, then.
Going for the first jump. I will post a build and choose the next pair with the reply.
>1. The Culture: Minds - Exalted: Spirits of Creation
>Nirvana Yuga
>Oasis of Fantasy
>Mondaiji Tachi Problem Children In Another World
>Reincarnated into a Slime
>Saber Wars
>Seven Deadly Sins
>Dies Irae
>Avesta of Black and White
>World Seed
>Generic Isekai
>Isekai at Peace
>Nobilis
>Medaka Box: Abnormal
>SCP Foundation (Stupid Dog)
>DC Comics Collab - A Wild Last Boss Appeared
>D.Y.N. Freaks
>Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint
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>>93141519
Oh, did you add the thing about teleporting and Round Table being in a separate space from the rest of the world?
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>>93141519
What build will let you move at the Speed of Light?
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>>93141524
That list looks like you're desperate to stack on as much power as possible.
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>>93141510
Short term, Ahamkara because we have confirmation killing them is just a setback in the physical universe. Long term, human because it's the one that gives you the means to out-Darkness the Witness eventually.

Mid-term Vex because you can just fuck off into the Vex network and ignore the setting until a cosmic power manages to exert universal hegemony.

>>93141511
The impression I get that is that the Elden Ring is what propagated the power of the Greater Will throughout the Lands Between and created the Erdtree. We've seen multiple entities with "God slain" and frankly in Miquella's case you can just walk up and stab him to death without Destined Death. Marika may have been the most powerful thing in the Lands Between at the time but she was far from all-powerful, and I think the Elden Ring was some kind of terraforming device/amplifier that empowered the Erdtree and bound the metaphysical systems of the Lands Between to a design strongly influenced by Marika's will since a lot of shit started malfunctioning when Marika broke it.


>>93141527
No and I'm not going to bother handholding people to that extent. Ffs I've already gone way, way too deep into the lore.

>>93141530
Demigod.
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>>93141172
Messmer's spear can also be thrown and return to your hand with the R2, like the throwing weapons & spectral javelin.
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>>93141542
>No and I'm not going to bother handholding people to that extent.
I only ask because you mentioned doing so when someone brought it up previously.
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>>93141511
>the gate of divinity
Fuck if the DLC explained anything about it. It was vital though, it was the thing she apparently sacrificed A LOT of people (presumably Hornsent) to in order to obtain godhood. It's simultaneously the reason why Marika became who she became and also very unexplained unless I've again missed something.

There's some speculation it could be the Primordial Crucible (by the way, it's heavily implied Nephali Loux's wind worship dates back to Hornsent-era beliefs since the Hornsent's concept of divinity is associated with storms. By extension, that COULD imply Placidusax's status as Elden Lord/the dragon's association with the Erdtree is because the title of Elden Lord is actually predicated on being the PRIMORDIAL CRUCIBLE'S chosen champion before Marika came in, genocided it's worshippers and forcibly co-opted it into the Greater Will's precepts) but nothing about it is really said with certainty. The best evidence is that divinity used to be associated with horns in the Lands Between, the Primordial Crucible would be definition be the font of divinity before the Greater Will came in, and repeatedly it's stated that gods/magic is basically an abundance of lifeforce from some higher being/natural phenomena empowering other stuff.

But it is absolutely not clear at all, especially given Marika apparently got a Rune from...somewhere, and brandished it presumably to commune with the Greater Will rather than get crucible powers.

>>93141543
>>93141545
I am really, really, really, really, really tired of writing down every little damn thing about every goddamn object in the setting like I'm explaining to preschoolers okay. It's the thing and it does what it does in the game and in the setting.
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>The impression I get that is that the Elden Ring is what propagated the power of the Greater Will throughout the Lands Between and created the Erdtree. We've seen multiple entities with "God slain" and frankly in Miquella's case you can just walk up and stab him to death without Destined Death. Marika may have been the most powerful thing in the Lands Between at the time but she was far from all-powerful, and I think the Elden Ring was some kind of terraforming device/amplifier that empowered the Erdtree and bound the metaphysical systems of the Lands Between to a design strongly influenced by Marika's will since a lot of shit started malfunctioning when Marika broke it.
Nice, that's true with miquellas, but at that point you have at least Radahn's and moghs greatrune, which I think "in-lore" would make you tremendously powerful. So the average dude most likely can't poke miquella to death, most likely gameplay related, as NEEDING a destined death weapon might be a bit limiting to many. Thank you very much for the jump!
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>>93141553
>I am really, really, really, really, really tired of writing down every little damn thing about every goddamn object in the setting like I'm explaining to preschoolers okay. It's the thing and it does what it does in the game and in the setting.
On one hand, I think it's hilarious when you get sassy. On the other hand, you picked a super autistic property that's known for having all kinds of hard to find details and whose fans are indescribably obnoxious about them. Kinda self inflicted pain here, my guy.
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Destiny the darkness
Hive (100)
>Drawbacks
>Pruning sheers (600)
>Living lootbox (300)
>Sudden expected betrayal (200)
>Usurper (200) Cabal, Fallen, vex, hive

>Perks
>Sword logic (free)
>Best form of flattery & Axioms and knves (200)
>Inundation (200)
>Heresiarch (300)
>King of shapes (400)
>Heresy squared (400)
>Take what's given (600)
My half asleep mind sees nothing wrong with this Oryx build but is there enough races for the usurper drawback to get the wish granting (500) or take weapons (400) for the lols.
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>>93139662
Would Keyaru be able to heal All Might along with returning his quirk?
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>>93141565
MHA is cringe
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>>93141542
Would you say being the Strongest Guardian (Dredgen You) is better then just having a really big chunk of Light (Jumper’s Light)?
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>>93141555
Np. And one last thing: You can summon like 2 other dudes to fight him, neither of them are anywhere near PC Tarnished-levels, and one of them was a self-described wimp who was only good at poisoning.

Those guys can inflict damage on Radahn and Miquella too. I mean desu we don't really know how "runes add damage in a conflict between deific beings" works other than the most obvious signs of them throwing fireballs or swings swords at each other but if the Tarnished can somehow unconsciously empower allies to hurt things that should be unhurtable like the fell god's flame can empower Melina to burn a path to the Erdtree well, that's a level of wank sufficient to turn Tarnished cock into a bloody sausage.

>>93141556
I mean like, honestly I'd be more understanding if someone complained I whiffed on describing a Noble Phantasm or Nox Nyxtores or /a weapon that actually matters/ in the setting. But it's Messmer! The guy is an overhyped gatekeeper who serves as a "you must be THIS good at the game to get at the really meaty bits of lore instead of repeatedly being reminded of Marika's sins, the sins perpetuated against her and the cycle of violence in the Lands Between" and honestly it's amazing how forgettable he is after he bites it.
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>>93141568
More lethal? Yes. Better? Depends on what you want to achieve, even the Strongest Guardian needed multiple powerups and a literally pocket dimension-sized home turf advantage to actually kill the Witness.
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>>93141553
Yeah to be fair you were the one that first indulged in some like, begging for a generic whip item option. Like, you already opened the floodgates for "generic niche item option that really doesn't need to be in the jump, just grab one". Not that I was asking you for anything, I was just pointing out you could use his spear like that since you didn't mention it. Like, for game purposes. Definitely my new favourite weapon.
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>>93139836
Poorly. You need a specific equipment, with very specific port, for it, all of that, for a very specific game, that is very bad.

>>93141446
>Afterwards is when Kirito unloads 2 years worth of semen into her.
Absolutely. Based.
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>>93141570
Sure, but people latch onto all kinds of shit for who knows why. I mean how many retards in this thread, or in these threads for the past decade, waifu'd some random background character in a FOTM anime that had next to no screentime? Too fucking many. So yeah, you couple that inertia with what I said about this property and you're going to get weirdos who just won't leave shit alone.

FFS, Jacksons LOTOR is over two decades old and there are still people assmad that Tom fucking Bombadil wasn't included. People are weird, man.
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>>93141574
Honestly that's part of why I want to stop jumpmaking, I have terrible judgement figuring out a middle ground between "include only enough to fill out a 1-2-4-6 structure" and "include EVERYTHING, including this 4 sentence paragraph with implied implications about Zanzibart the Forlorn". Coupled with overfixating on whatever I'm doing, and I'm worried making jumps is slowly turning Jumpchain into work.

Unpaid work.

Ew.
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>>93141553
Hmmm, interesting, I also found absolutely nothing about that one. In my opinion most of the lore is extremely strange. I think it would've been better to just let it be a game about the greatrunes, instead of making it about the outer gods.
>There's some speculation it could be the Primordial Crucible
Problem is the crucible is specifically the old form of the erdtree lol. I'll just go with what you said. To be honest, the lore doesn't really make all that well sense. If empyreans are chosen by the 2 fingers and malenia, miquella and Ranni were chosen, HOW could they have ascended? Wouldn't they have to go into the lands of shadows? Wasn't just the elden ring the source of godhood? Well, Miyazaki said elden ring 2 is not out of question but well... If it's gonna be a schizofest as the dlc was it's not gonna clear up anything. Anyways that's for the dlc update!
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>>93141524
So, the first jump choice was meant to give Jumper both a good power/industrial base, as well as a top tier mind enhancement to better utilize the further jumps.
>1 - Exalted: Spirits of Creation
>Drawbacks:
>Age: Older than time
>Spirit Type: Demon
>Rank: Primordial (-400)
>Primordial Hierarchies: Other
>Timeline: Primordial War (200)
>A Spirit’s Form
>A Spirit’s Essence: Conquest
>A Spirit’s Power: Domains: Conquest, War, Dominance, Power, Storms, Industry
>Martial Deity (0)
>Demonic Living
>Citizen (-200)
>Musical Implements
>Audited (0)
>Political Concerns (400)
>Unique Trait: Second Fetich (300)
>Unique Trait: Extra Third Circles (200)
>Unique Trait: Duelist Jouten (100)
>Unique Trait: Apocalypse Jouten (0)

Citizen + Martial Deity (War) makes Jumper quite a beast for the Exalted host to deal with. Probably due to his nature he will be launching himself quite against the chosen of the gods and wreak havoc where he goes like Malfeas-That-Was did before his surrender.

Next:
>2. Reincarnated into a Slime - Oasis of Fantasy


>>93141540
Certainly, if the jumps are going to be limited and I'm choosing, I would rather not just go to somewhere like Breaking Bad in my limited slots. And waifu settings are also pretty pointless when you can just get generic anime girls also in chuuni jumps.
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>>93141580
I mean when someone was asking you to make an entirely separate option for fucking whips you really should have just realised and told them and everyone else to fuck off, and just stuck to including majorly lore significant weapons, with a generic catch all option for other weapons.
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>>93141583
You sure being a primordial in the the primordial war is a safe choice for jump 1?
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>ITT entitled autists ruin everything. . . again
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>>93141581
>Problem is the crucible is specifically the old form of the erdtree lol
The Land of Shadow being the land of the dead raises all kind of questions I feel like the DLC skirted around and just treated like another pocket dimension (you...just kind of go back after killing Miquella for one thing. For another, apparently based on an incantation Erdtree blessings CAN faintly get in there). I could speculate the gate is a "ghost" that Marika transformed into the Erdtree with the Elden Ring but we're fully into unsupported headcanon by then. And it raises other questions about why Primordial Crucible-themed powers are still around, and how absolute the Elden Ring's power actually is when unshattered.

>Empyreans
My speculation there is that being an Empyrean might not be a status confined to those chosen by the Greater Will('s reps) but again yeah that's just speculation, and after Dark Souls has run it's course I absolutely have no confidence Elden Ring 2 would answer more questions than it brings up.

And I'm definitely not making the jump for it if it releases. I'll just time travel forwards from Elden Ring 1 to engage with the setting

>>93141586
That's true. A generic weapon purchase would've solved a lot of problems for me. I just didn't want the jump to look SOVLess with some sad, lonely little 100/200 CP item purchases sitting together as abandoned and unwanted as the spirit tuner girl in the base game. Or the Mother of Fingers.

Or a lot of characters in the Lands Between, really.
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>>93141019
How many times do you guys see a girl from an anime, get horny for her, only to realize the setting and the girl would bring nothing or minimum value to the chaine?
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>>93141564
>>93141600
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>>93141601
I don't have shit taste, so I haven't experienced what you're describing.
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>>93141553
If you're tired of it then you should probably try NOT getting interested in settings like Elden Ring.
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>And I'm definitely not making the jump
Fair I guess lol, honestly the devs make up shit and change shit like 2 hours before release (and looking at version 1.0 even after release) so it's best not to think about it too much. Anyone's guess about the lore is as good as any other atp thanks to the whole Radahn debacle.
And we got another 5 forgive mes lol.
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>>93141172
>Added Spear of the Impaler
A good baby.
This weapon is so cool. It's too bad that using fire is not the meta. Giga Chad's is. Or World of STR.

>>93141187
>spoiler
This sound like retardation to me.

>>93141600
>all of this
>oh god
>my fuck ass who still don't understand what is the difference between the GW and the GO
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>>93141609
If you don't find pic there >>93141019 hot, this is telling more about your balls and prostate than tastes.
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>>93141570
>But it's Messmer!
Why you gotta do Messmerbros like that?
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>>93141626
Oh no, she's definitely hot. I just don't get cranked by useless moeblobs. That's all I was saying.
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>>93141636
Ah got it. I mean, there's a difference between horny and moeblobs but I got it.
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>>93141564
Your price presentation is confusing me, but I can say that is 800 CP worth of drawbacks from Usurper, at least.

>>93141618
Man, they might as well make Zanzibart an actual character in their next game at this point

>>93141621
Fire is never quite the meta in any FromSoft game, I've found. It can be good in it's niche but never exceptional, and it's best use is still blinding actual players in PvP not hurting NPCs.

t. the cancer that is the AC6 pvp scene

>GW and the GO
Golden Order: The vaguely defined system that Marika used her divine powers to exert upon the Lands Between through her communion with the Elden Ring

Greater Will: The higher being that chose Marika as the primary beneficiary of it's power and through whom exerted it's principles across the Lands Between. Turns out it's actually super nice in it's normal state and it was Marika who imposed principles of enmity on how it's forces work in the Lands Between. Also turns out that according to a sorcerer who studied it intelligently, it actually IS the originator of all life in the universe, the supreme power in the cosmos and the closest thing to God in the setting, with the Moon merely being a nearby celestial body despite it's own powers. The Frenzied Flame's account isn't disproven though, it was said to have created life in a great "fracture". It's just that, well, whatever the Frenzied Flame was talking about /might/ have been more cosmic in scope that initially assumed

>>93141629
>Messmerbros
There are Messmerbros? I thought there were only Messmerfujos

Are you a subset of Godrickbros?
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>>93141583
>2 - Oasis of Fantasy
>Locations: Egypt- 2200BCE
>Origin: Sorceror
>Age: 28
>An Age of Gods
>Hashashin Training
>The Softer Side
>Gods' Eyes (800)
>Old Man (500)
>All The World’s Evil And More To Come (100)
>Fleshly God, Authorities: Violence, Disorder, Foreign things (-700)
>Death Bag
>Sumerian Pride (-600)
>A Goddess is a Maiden (-500)
>Heavenly Judgement (-300)
>The Book of Jumper (0)

Jumper is a version of Set incarnated in Ancient Egypt who is fighting a super-reanimated Osiris' zombie with the power of a Beast.


Next:
>3. Nirvana Yuga - Mondaiji Tachi Problem Children In Another World


>>93141592
Jumper doesn't have the mental lock that other Primordials have around their natures and being unable to conceive things outside of his themes. Coupled with quite a bit of actual combat power from perks, exapnsions and domains, as well some out of the box(for Primordials) mentality, which allowed a single Primordial to fuck with the entire Exalted Host on his own, gives me some pretty decent chances. Plus, I'm an addition to an already close war. And you can always run away if you have some way to deal with Adrian, at least two Primordials do it.

Also, for you to die for good an fail your chain according to the jump, you would need to be turned into a Neverborn and then killed again, something that simply doesn't happen and it's worst a thing that it's opened to Story Tellers to explore for the Exalts in the Age of Sorrows after their tombs get opened in the mid First Age. So at worst you get some years of being turned into a Neverborn. And the Jump also takes the interpretation from Malfeas where you need to kill your Souls in order to turn you into a Neverborn, rather than the Autochthonia/Return of the Scarlet Empress that says that slaying a single Jouten is enough to turn you into a Neverborn.
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>>93141672
Forgot the roll.
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>>93141657
>Fire is never quite the meta in any FromSoft game
True that. Pyromancy is good, but it's not the best thing ever. Also DS3, magic being good, lmao, you know.
So in a world of elemental things, it would be utter shit.

>I've found. It can be good in it's niche but never exceptional, and it's best use is still blinding actual players in PvP not hurting NPCs.
KEK.

So if I got it right, GO is just Marika's rules, that she somehow imposed on GW. And GW is GW. GW was "corrupted" by Marika's rules?

>spoiler
>Also turns out that according to a sorcerer who studied it intelligently, it actually IS the originator of all life in the universe, the supreme power in the cosmos and the closest thing to God in the setting,
WHAT.
Could have fooled me on super nice and... that. What the shit. What is his sauce?


Wait a fucking minute.
Broke a thing, made life...
Is...
Is the GW the Sophia or the Demiurge of Elden Ring?
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>>93141657
So is Ranni's ending still a "good ending"
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>>93141657
>>93141689
Fire is great though? You can get crazy strong fire damage even before the dlc, and the dlc has a fuck ton of strong fire options. Only issue is some bosses hard resisting it like fire giant. At least it's not holy damage.
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>>93141657
>greater will
Not to discount an in universe revelation, but I think it'd be smart to be skeptical when it comes to information like this when it comes from a character in universe like this. As far as I was concerned, the Greater Will was just an outer god, if one that was a lot stronger, or had a bigger claim on the lands between. Remember the three fingers, servants of the frenzied flame, near identical to the two fingers.

Also, wasn't that guy also the one who said the mother finger was behind the two fingers sabotaging the empire?
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>>93141689
evidence suggests the GW is the Demiurge to the primordial crucibles Sophia, kinda.
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>>93141692
Ranni and Goldmasks's endings are now BOTH a case of "ask failed successfully yeah, with Goldmask being more correct than Ranni even though both their endings are the right one for the setting.

Ranni is right in that removing the influence of the Elden Ring's order will in theory allow for gods and demigods to cease defining terms for people to live on. However. It also takes away all the Greater Will blessings which are all unironically helpful and does absolutely nothing about the issue of other malign divinities like the fell god or the Scarlet Rot continuing to bother humanity, let along a potential Hornsent revenge plan.

Goldmask is more right that the instability of the Golden Order is inherently tied to demigod fickleness. He is "wrong" in the sense that technically speaking Marika's Order isn't intrinsic to the Greater Will's nature at all, but strictly speaking his solution is a fix. People still get the blessings, the Erdtree is implied to work better than in the other endings, and if the Scarlet Rot ever rears it's ugly head well-if a blind man and a fairy could deal with it, a champion of the Golden Order probably can too.

>>93141689
>GO is just Marika's rules
That she imposed on the LANDS BETWEEN, the GW is cosmic in scope and the DLC revealed it hasn't been paying attention to anything since at least the Shattering, possibly earlier in Marika's rule too, because it pretty much gave up on the Lands Between. So yeah, the thing sending you Guidance of Grace is probably what's left of Marika's will
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>super nice
There's an incantation that shows what the Greater Will is like without Order. It's genuinely nice. See also the UNALLOYED (as in, undiluted) gold needle Miquella made to heal his sister

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Minor+Erdtree

>Is the GW
Assuming the Frenzied Flame's account is correct, probably the Demiurge in a cosmic scope. But in it's dealings with the Lands Between it plays Sophia instead.

Whatever it's other flaws, it genuinely seems to support the prosperity of life in an individualised form.

>>93141708
Yeah that's fair, it was some other things like the one above that made me think Ymir is onto something but From can always pull a gotcha with unreliable narrators, I'm just going by what the DLC seems to present overall.

>>93141705
Fire is fine, it's just that "fine" comes off as inadequate on one's first encounter with a boss when there are things that are actually good like bleed
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>>93141720
So Goldmask is more optimal if you trust the GW and Ranni's is more optimal if you don't but other than that they both will be better than most of the other endings.
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>>93141730
I mean if you're comparing it to bleed fair enough but nothing really compares to "chunk the boss for a flat 40% hp"
but bleed is for cheaters
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>>93141730
It's hilarious that the erdtree incant we get is like half the size of Melina's and does barely any more healing than a warming stone.
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Best modern day jumps to get a supernatural sword waifu?
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>>93141742
Kara no Kyoukai.
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>>93141742
You mean like a personified sword or just a swordswoman?
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>>93141742
Fate Legends Land of the Rising Sun can be used to jump modern times now.
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>>93141705
I'm talking from a realistic perspective. Some elements have their ups and downs, but some of them more than others. So I'm thinking, the Meta build should be something like Gravity, World of STR, or the Black Flames I guess since they are less flames and more like KILL EVERYTHING BUT ESPECIALLY GODS REEEE.

>spoiler
Imagine having Elden Ring as your first jump, and picking that build.
Lol Radagon said. Lmao even.

>>93141716
I... I though the Primordial Crucible was just some sort of magic primordial pot that made things?

>>93141720
>>93141730
But... why giving up on the Lands Between, it basically mean it gave up on the planet, right? Why giving up on the planet?
Just, what is powering the holiness then? Why giving Marika godhood if she was as terrible before?
And if it's good, why giving up people to shit?
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>>93141742
Taimanin.
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>>93141742
Go to Bleach, grab the Unohana perks for them and somehow have them be as good a swordsman as the 2000 year old sword master despite being a human. Fate Japan can be set in modern times.
Kara no Kyoukai & Mahoutsukai.
DxD.
Campione, just build fem Doni, or asian fem Doni.
UQ Holder.
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>>93141749
Either or.
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>>93141733
Basically, yeah. If you look at the other endings a lot of them boil down to "fuck you, got mine" whether you force everyone to accept the Duskborn, force the Omen curse on everyone, or just settle for being king shit of fractured mountain. The relative benefits of both endings boil down to whether you're willing to extend the benefit of doubt to the Greater Will as a whole and whether you think the good Marika's system did is worth keeping around the symbol of her tyranny.

>>93141738
Well if the theory Melina was Messmer's sister is right, that might've been because we were supposed by a demigoddess all along.

>>93141735
Moonveil is truly the Messmer of Bleed, continuously nerfed as a scapegoat instead of addressing the wider issues of balance for Bleed as a whole.
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>>93141742
Does Saeko count? She's not explicitly magically enhanced or anything, but she's easily superhuman.
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To the anon last thread asking what the most powerful ninja jump not named Naruto was:

Senran Kagura.
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>>93141760
>it gave up on the planet,
Marika was, no joke, that awful
>what is powering the holiness
The Elden Ring.
>Marika
I actually missed something important I learned from the Bonny Village and the Shaman Village.

She was avenging her village being turned into pots by the Hornsent, and ended up taking it out on everyone tangentially associated with the divinity they were worshipping-probably the Primordial Crucible. The Greater Will was likely sympathetic to her at first, but she genocided too much and her own house fell apart when she smashed the Elden Ring
>why
The most likely explanation? Everything Marika did culminating in the Shattering was causing so much suffering the Greater Will decided bailing was better than sticking around.

It might not be PERFECT despite being generally benevolently inclined, since it also abandoned it's own servants (the Elden Beast and the Mother of Fingers). Then again, given at least some of the Fingers sided with the Frenzied Flame it's possible it might also see THEM as part of the problem for turning against it or trying to carve out their own chunk of the pie)
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>>93141742
I mean, I'd say your pic related but I'm pretty sure we don't have a jump for it and she's lesbian. We do have a jump for Tenjo Tenge though.
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>>93141618
Oh god are you that vg tard that was sperging about cut content.
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>>93141787
>and she's lesbian
Irrelevant for a true Chad.
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>>93141600
>The Land of Shadow being the land of the dead
It is? Where are all the bosses i killed then?
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>>93141172
Crucible of Life [250]
Golden Haligtree [750]
Shadow of the Scadutree [1250]
Gate of Divinty [1750]
>Drawbacks
You are the pest control [1550]
Cursed [eternal childhood] [1350]
The Flame Flickers [1050]

not sure which drawback I want to cover that last 50
but either way I have two magical trees and the crucible all as sources of power to learn from, and all wanting to help me, and I'm sure I can use the three of them and the Gate to bootstrap some form of divine empowerment. Also probably wrangle a small army of beasts and treemen out of them. I imagine somewhere inside my mini shadowlands, two trees are intertwined with each other, both sitting on top of a crucible of life, with a gate of divinty nestled between all three. And probably all turbo charging each other.
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>>93141811
An excellent question, and one the DLC fails to explain because the plot just needed Radahn to somehow get there and

SUBVERT EXPECTATIONS
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>>93141681
>3 - Nirvana Yuga
>Locations: Mahabharata
>Divine: Divine Spirit
>A Life of Peace
>God King: Authorities of Stillness, Time and Destruction (700)
>Saver (100)
>Constitution That Accepts Every Desire (-300)
>Path of the Lotus
>Trishula Shakti (-600)
>Enlightened Heart (-500)
>Shiva's Rage (-300)
>Demon Hunt (-100)
>Low Caste Warrior (0)

Arjuna Alter mixed with Buddha because Anti-Evil is enlightenment and provides a barrier defense too for some reason.

Next:
>4. Saber Wars - Seven Deadly Sins
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>>93141457
>Where does Might + Thor's Might even put you at
The Migth to at least punch holes into mountains and lift snakes that encircle the world (+about 30 dudes worth of strength)
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>>93141825
I don't get how stacking all this powerful shit from the word go is fun, or also not incredibly redundant.
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>>93141720
I feel like Elden ring is the opposite of Demon souls

>Demon souls: Some humans can hack reality by using magic, and God absolutely hates that, so he left the Old one to clean the world every time mages start infesting the place
>Elden ring: The Greater Will gives Marika access to the Cheat engine hacking tool of her universe, the same Greater Will also goes out to buy milk in the depths of outer space and never comes back

And honestly, the Golden order, despite the flaws, was still bringing stability and peace to the lands between, enough that human civilization could flourish beyond small villages. Remove Golden order and you will have Hornsents stuffing people in jars before the day is over, despite the entire genocide by Marika, you get the feeling those guys learned nothing and will go back to their old ways the instant the Golden order is not around to keep them in line. Marika really did nothing wrong here, hard to stay peaceful when they kill your entire village and stuff their mutilated bodies in jars for fun.

Finding Marika home and learning more about her earlier life was nice, wish the DLC focused more on her.
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>>93141824
Maybe the Tarnished just is so BUILT DIFFERENT that the things he kills don't go there.
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>>93141600
>The Land of Shadow being the land of the dead
It actually felt like Limbo to me. Like a place you can go before death, which mean dead and alive people can get in there if they really want to.
The fact that it could be a pocket dimension, created or sealed, make my head hurt.

>>93141785
>The Elden Ring.
But I thought the Elden Ring was shattered, what will be powering it if we take it away in Ranni's ending, or putting it inside of us?

>spoiler
Oh I thought she came from that village and destroyed everything from her past or whatever, either so that nothing can be turned against her, or she did the whole DLC seducing thing, and putting Messmer there for extra measure just to be sure, which didn't seem to fully work as there's an old grandma cursing her.

>the Elden Beast
One thing, I though the Elden Beast AND the Elden Ring was the same thing?

>the Mother of Fingers
According to Ymir, is actually deliberately made fingers give Marika faulty messages.
I'm actually impressed, this thing's design is disgusting.

>>93141792
With cut contents, you can hear even more of Godgrey's sweet, sweet, delicious, voice.

Oh Elden Ring...
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>>93139251
Fiend race in smt
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>>93141076
So the runes from the allfather perk do nothing themselves, they just act as conduits for powers and magic you have otherwise?
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>>93141828
So Thor's Might is just incomparably better even though the perks are the same price?
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>>93141600
>Spoiler
You will anyway since you JUST KNOW it will have lore that retroactively changes stuff in the first game.
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>>93141657
>Man, they might as well make Zanzibart an actual character in their next game at this point
Absolutely insane how fromsoft ware is literally doing that 10000 times. Even I noticed that when I fought against messmer and the this dude said forgive me. I witnessed like 30 "forgive me" in the base game and 2 already in the dlc. Of anything the only thing missing is a forgive me perk.
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>>93141834
Tbh I'm not even sure if the Hornsent can actually get out of the Land of Shadow. Like it's the place of the dead but they used to live there so...maybe they're NOT actually dead? You can apparently die there too, so I guess double death is a thing. And supposedly the whole place is banished by Marika specifically she hates nearly everything there but like, you and your bros have no trouble getting in via Miquella. And you at least, definitely just walk out casually when Miquella is dead.

>>93141837
>what will be powering
Apparently as long as you got a Mending Rune, that's enough to fix it. And that's about as much detail as we get in the Golden Orrder endings.

>the same thing
The Elden Beast came within the Elden Ring. It's like a Stand, the incarnation/avatar of it but they are also a separate beast/ring.

>disgusting
Yes. And he wants to be that.
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>>93141834
Yeah as much as the consensus has turned even more against her i really can't bring myself to hate marika.
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>>93141867
You can also NOT have a Mending Rune.

>The Elden Beast came within the Elden Ring. It's like a Stand, the incarnation/avatar of it but they are also a separate beast/ring.
So it punched back Marika/Radagon when she destroyed it, it's weird. How.
Also obligatory questions, why is it attacking us, why does it (seemingly) puppeting Radagon, etcetc.

>And he wants to be that.
That's not hot.
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>>93141849
>Ranni was actually in contact with the true greater will
>Marikas race crash landed into tlb on a spaceship
>The greater will is actually not real/ a imposter that got killed
>Zanzibart is the true giver of grace
>Each land has an elden ring, tlb just had one
>Ranni became evil/was always evil and is the final boss
>Ranni is a slut and cucked the tarnished
Imagine all the shit from software would/will pure if they write shit like miquella x radahn
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>>93141884
>miquella x radahn
Honestly thought it was pretty clever.
Of course Miquella is a piece of shit. And of course people wanted to see Radahn in his prime.
except they didn't seem to understand the concept of prime to the point I'm midly confused when it's compared to Gael's fight.
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>>93141843
Yes
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>>93141867
Considering it used to be in the lands between proper, before Marika sealed it, it's more likely that rather than being some sort of afterlife it was just a land that was very spiritually active, or acted as some sort of spiritual focal point that dead souls were drawn towards.
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>>93141730
How does just being a wizard compare to fire?
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>>93141882
>How
With it's hands, probably.
>why is it attacking us
STILL a mystery, though I'd bet on self defence.

>>93141900
That also makes sense too

>>93141903
Good but it comes at the detriment of angry martials whining that YOU DIDN'T BEAT THE GAME and you HAVE NO SOVL while they grumpily dodgeroll carrying some other weapon they really like but is stumping them on a boss you cleared an hour ago.
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>>93141825
>4. Seven Deadly Sins
>Location: Megadozer
>Race: Human (1100)
>Origin: Fugitive (1000)
>Age: 16
>Power Levels
>The Small and the Many
>King of Man (700)
>Just Checking
>Foxhound
>Heretic (400)
>Snatch (200) (200 stipend)
>Sacred Treasure (-200)
>CP to PP (-700)
>>Import: Trishula Shakti
>>Power Enhacement (1300 PP)
>>Additional Forms (1100 PP): A spear, a sword, a halberd, a warhammer, a dagger, a shield
>>Attack Enhacement (800 PP)
>>Soulbound (400 PP)
>>True Form (0 PP)
>Never Said It Was Good (-600)
>Too Holy Knight (-500)
>That Is My Sin: Pride (-300)
>Traitor (0)

There is no 'actual' Arthur choice in the jump, but I guess I will manage with the stuff I bring with me and the capstone originally inspired by him. I was mostly aiming to enhance whatever weapon I landed with the two choices for the next jump.

>5. World Seed - Generic Isekai

>>93141829
Note that what remains is even higher power.
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>>93141779
Expand on that, i'm that anon and i'd like to know more.
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>>93141900
>>93141910
The sealing away of some sort of spiritual nexus probably accounts in part for why things are getting fucked in the lands between as well.
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>>93141910
>With it's hands, probably.
Har har.
I can't even comprehend the why the GW decided it was a good idea to make the program into a god.

Also, there was something BEFORE Marika, like the Dragons, different god than GW? NotGhidorah is standing like the fingers.

>on self defence.
It is attacking us first though.


>YOU DIDN'T BEAT THE GAME and you HAVE NO SOVL
Probably the same people who are whining about Moonveils or Rivers of Blood.
You know what you are you filthy casuals.
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>melina's entire arc is just please fuck my mom
>malenia's entire character is just radahn please fuck my brother
>messmer goes on schizo rants about how he thinks tarnished is fucking his mom
>godfreys entire motivation is i just want to fuck my wife
>blaidd and ijis characters are just please fuck our master
>rennalas character is i wish my husband was around to still fuck me
>selivus only contribution to any quests are either, hey bro ranni wants you to fuck her and hey bro help me rape nepheli
You are not taking the elden ring setting seriously right? Also, there is not ONE "Waifu" in that setting. Everyone is either deformed, will cuck you, will use you and THEN cuck you, will kill you, or just ignore you.
Imagine fucking Marika?! This bitch got fucked by fire giants, snakes (?), barbarians and if the veil theory is to be believed (also bastards of the mausoleum), she fucked a shitton of randoms, birthing many bastards. She might have had a brutal childhood, but she still is literally fucking and cucking around. This is the top god, the one houses the laws of reality and modified them in the past so her children are immortal. Imagine wanting to fuck that.
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>>93141910
>but it comes at the detriment of angry martials whining
But that's a good thing?
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>>93141829
It's Fate. There's always more power to have.
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>>93141946
Nice try ranni hater, rannifags stay winning.
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>>93141742
Dave the barbarian
Elric
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Does Maria the Virgin Witch have a jump?
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>>93141916
>5. World Seed
>Drop-In
>Deus Ex
>Druid
>Age: 18
>The System
>Freebies (Schools: Time/Void, Affinities: Luck, Violence)
>What’s in a Soul? (800)
>Personal Dimension: Import my World-Body (400)
>Generic Drop-In perk
>Slice of Life
>The Best of Both Worlds (100)
>Is it possible to learn this power? Not from the protagonist. (200)
>Ability Creator (-400)
>Systematic Potential Actualization (-1000)
>Seed Storage
>Seed Capsule
>Companion Bracelet
>Gold Market (-400 stipend)
>Two girls don’t make a harem, I swear! (-900)
>Space Travel Woes (-600)
>A World of leftovers (0)

Given the soul hierarchy and my clones, I can pretty much attend the whole cosmos easily. Mostly I was looking for a way to keep upgrading things post-chain in either this or the other jump, so I'm glad that I got World Seed.

Next:
>6. Dies Irae - Avesta of Black and White
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>>93141738
Melina is a demigoddess and probably the only one not named Ranni who isn't bugfuck insane. She's probably significantly more powerful than the Tarnished but is limited due to being more a spirit clinging to the world than anything else.
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>>93141760
You don't build Faith for Holy Damage, you build it so you can give yourself fifty buffs and oneshot everything.
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>>93141992
I wanna nuke things with holy power, but even the new incants are worse than a lightning spear you can get within an hour of starting the game.
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>>93141946
Ranni (waifu) won
Goldmask (chastity) won.

>>93141992
Godfrey was right. It all comes back to unga bunga sooner or later.
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>>93141834
>Marika really did nothing wrong here
Marika did nothing wrong by trying to REMOVE HORNSENT. She did everything wrong by projecting her hatred onto all other life, causing mass genocide of everything that she thought looked funny, and outright attempting to spite the GW itself for no real reason.
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>>93141943
>It is attacking us first though.
The best theory is that it's been so traumatized from Marika being a fuck that it views anyone trying to reach it and mess with the Elden Ring as being a second Marika in the making. And given what most of her brood are like, it's not wrong.
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>>93141962
The Carian House can't stop winning. They always got the good stuff.

>>93141988
She also want to kill herself. Honestly I always go pick the Frenzy Flame out of spite.

>>93142009
How can Goldmask have a chastity if he doesn't have any or a dong in the first place?

>>93142011
What's funny is that she extended that to her own kids.
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>>93142024
>Honestly I always go pick the Frenzy Flame out of spite.
Anon, please stop having a Marika moment.
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>>93142022
Yeah but.
The game flat state that you are killing it. GOD SLAIN. So did you kill the Elden Ring too?
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>>93141829
The chainbutt their using means you only actually get to go to 10 jumps before sparking, what their doing is basically exactly what everyone would want to do if that's the case. 100 years of mild fun where you explore new worlds, they might not be the exact settings with your favourite charactes but that can come after the chain is complete
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>>93142029
You kill the Ring's avatar, which seemingly just leaves the pure Elden Ring, just without an embodiment.
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>>93142028
It's alright, I always make sure to cure myself if I don't go Frenzy Ending.
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>>93141987
>5. World Seed
You know you've basically got an infinite multiverse in this with the hierarchy given you can create a universal grove and have all of them do the exact same ever downwards
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Putrescent Knight's internal name is servant of the gloom eyed queen. We were originally going to get GEQ lore but they scrapped that during development. Rip.
Also fuck this boss.
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>>93142043
>gloom
Gloam*
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>>93142024
>out of spite
Why spite?
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>>93142039
It's funny how outside of a couple bosses, the Frenzied Flame ending is the only outcome that has Melina resolve to actually deal with it herself. The entire shitfest with her entire family and extended family ruining everything forever doesn't bother her in the slightest, but you dickriding the most blatantly insane Outer God is what makes her resolve to kill you.
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>>93141843
Why does he have to tell you that?
Just read the fucking perks. The one says you can throw heavy stones and the other in the notes says that you have earthshaking might
>same price
Yeah maybe the reason for differently priced backgrounds is that the perks of that background are stronger?
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>>93142038
It make sense.
But the item descriptions seems to imply it's a twin deal, so yeah.
...It's leaving the Elden Ring to be tinkered by anyone if it doesn't develop an ego fast if you take the Elden Ring though...
Hmmm.

>>93142043
>spoiler
wot
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>>93142060
Honestly the grace chat where she begs you not to work with the flame is honestly top tier tragikino. The voice acting, the fact that you're ostensibly doing it to not need her to sacrifice herself? Good shit.
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>>93142024
Maybe he's hiding it in a pocket dimension. That's a thing you can do with magic. Hide stuff in pocket dimensions.

>>93142011
The fell god was feared even by the FUCKING hornsent, but honestly there's not much on how human-fell god/giant relations were like. Until further evidences surfaces the giants might have just been roped in because they were at least tangentially associated with the Crucible

>>93142029
>The game flat state that you are killing it
Apparently the god is separate from the structure despite representing it. Don't hope for further clarification, because I sure as hell found none.

>>93142060
Melina in general is way too much of a mystery box for her own good. At least she does show up to fight for some bosses, but she reallly needed to give an opinion or 20 on what was going on instead of just be a parrot for Marika's own words.

>>93142043
Unfortunately in canon, the Putrescent Knight remains Saint Trinia's dutiful servant (despite Saint Trinia herself trusting you more than it, apparently)
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>>93142075
Yeah I know, as in they scrapped the idea of it being GEQ's servant. Instead he's a fucking cunt that's killed me nearly 30 times.
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>>93142052
She's acting retarded. We could live happily forever but nooooooo. "I need to burn myself".
Jesus, I get it you are depressed and want to die, but fuck you and get over yourself.
Also massive dab on her if you decide to go Frenzy AFTER she killed herself, or decide to heal yourself after she got her bitchfit. Cry more.

Also this >>93142060
...You think that the whole Gloam Eyed Queen could have been a ploy by Marika?
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>6. Dies Irae
>Student
>Age: 16
>Die Ewigkeit
>Limit: Atziluth (600)
>Low Brow Opera
>Born For the Stage
>Future Planning
>Yusa Have Some Fun
>The Gallows (300)
>Beast of Possibility (0)
>Ahnebere
>>First Tier
>>Import: Trishula Shakti (-100)
>Briah
>>Type: Hadou
>>Levels: Fourth: Gladsheimr (-900)
>Pocket Friend
>Jinxed (-800)
>Do You Remember Those Days (-600)
>Blood Starved (-400)
>Rise of the Machina (-100)
>I've Seen The Future (0)

The Gallows and Gladsheimr combine quite well with the Primordial Soul Hiearchy. I can make every soul, including the First Circles, respawning and empower me further by becoming part of Gladsheimr. I can also use the Gold Market and my own Primordial natural sorcery to upgrade their domains in tune with the Die Ewigkeit, or just lend them Authorities to give the same functionality.

I think either of my Fetiches is a pretty good substitute for Isaac, and my body is already basically a Divine Vessel equivalent between charms and the Enlightenment of the Sacred Fig.

Given the drawbacks, Jumper is probably going to act on its nature and just gobble everything into its own Law.

Next:
>7. Medaka Box: Abnormal - SCP Foundation (Stupid Dog)

>>93142041
Yes, that used to be a thing back in the old good days of Jumpchain combos. But as Primordial I was a cosmos already, same now with the Shinza jump.
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>>93142075
>Maybe he's hiding it in a pocket dimension. That's a thing you can do with magic. Hide stuff in pocket dimensions.
There's clearly no pocket dimensions. He's showing his groin for all to see.

>Apparently the god is separate from the structure despite representing it. Don't hope for further clarification, because I sure as hell found none.
>mfw
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>>93141840
No, that's one option, but you also get general nurse rune magic. Examples of that rune magic are Odins 18 charms listed in the perk. These charms can be channeled through song, spells or runes. Other runes are quite vague and varied: helping with childbirth, telling the future etc
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>>93142080
>Jesus, I get it you are depressed and want to die, but fuck you and get over yourself.
She's already dead anon, she tells you as much. When she appears at sites of grace, that's literally just her spirit popping up from nowhere. Melina is probably just tired of clinging to the world and watching her family plunge everything deeper and deeper into the shitter long after she lost her original body.

Also, she kinda has to burn herself if you want to progress without basically becoming a sockpuppet for Crazy Fire Satan.
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>>93142097
Then she should let herself die instead.
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In theory the kiln works because she's got giant's blood like Messmer. In which case you can go shank him and use him for the sacrifice to get to the erdtree.
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>>spoiler
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>>93142107
Unfortunately, if you're just going in, you basically won't know Messmer even exists until the DLC and Melina isn't going to tell you shit given she never once acknowledges any of the other demigods as being her siblings and basically gives ZERO backstory for who she is or why she's there.
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>You WILL fuck my underage gay brother.

Why is she like this? Why is her family like this? Would therapy fix this?
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>>93142113
I mean when jumping it, why would you not know?
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>>93142075
So the human perk makes it sound like Mixing light and darkness together is a very op thing in setting? So if you had both would you hit above your weight class compared to someone who had just one?
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>>93142118
>underage
Miquella is a grown-ass man. He just looks like a shota (which may or may not be because of passive mindfuckery).

>Why is she like this?
Given how liberally he uses it, there's a non-zero chance that Miquella mindraped her into basically being a mindless simp for him.

>Why is her family like this?
Marika.

>Would therapy fix this?
Lul
Lmao
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>>93142118
>Would therapy fix this?
I'm Sure this would make for a really good episode of Dr Phil.
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>>93142127
It is literally the key to beating the Witness and the cause of vast cosmic changes in-universe, yes. For reference the Witness is the guy who put the Traveller in a metaphysical chokehold.

>weight class
Prismatic is supposed to be OP in-universe, yeah.

>>93142118
>therapy
Therapy can't even fix all regular schizos. Unironically that house needed to be swept clean, since even the half-decent ones bow to greater strength.
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>>93142118
>Would therapy fix this?
Depends on the perks you have. I think there are some pretty damn good therapy perks.
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>>93142142
So having both is "We in the endgame now lads" levels of broken and not just hitting things harder than you should?
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>>93142165
Yes, but you have to accept being an edgy teenager.
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>>93142081
>7. SCP Foundation (Stupid_Dog's version)
>Background: Children of the Scarlet King, Command
>Schrödinger's Canon
>Red
>[REDACTED]
>Memetic Hazard: Sentient Memeplex (600)
>Crimson Conqueror (300)
>O5-J (0)
>110-Montauk (-100)
>Scarlet Spawn (-300)
>Colorless Green (-900)
>Calabasas Chain
>Seven Sins (-1100)
>Scavenger Hunt (-900)
>Power Trip (-800)
>Deviant (-700)
>With their facial features (DATA EXPUNGED)! (-500)
(CLASSIFIED)’s Most Wanted: MC&D’s, Serpent's Hand, Wanderer's Library (-200)
>SCP-001-α (+100 cp version) (-100)
>Consensus Reality*- (+100 cp version) (0)

Godhead Jumper is in a quest to reclaim all his stolen stuff, while several organizations try to keep stealing fragments from himself in the form of empowered First Circles and artifacts.

>8. Isekai at Peace - Nobilis
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>>93142165
It is endgame level, but that endgame level manifests as hitting things harder than you should.

There is a lot of this going on in Destiny. See: 6-man teams destroying the dude who beat up all the Worm Gods shortly after being surprised by his existence. While at the boiling bottom of the ocean. Using a rib he ripped from the Leviathan. And swam up again with their mom as a hostage, again with no visible exhaustion.
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>>93142022
More likely Elden beast was always in contact with Metyr, mother of fingers, and those two have their own ideas about who should be the new Elden lord and the new God of the new order. They had already settled on Ranni before the shattering to replace Marika, but just because Ranni refused does not mean they will accept any random guy getting their hands on the Elden ring. Dung eater already showed that if you can brute force your way inside the erdtree and defeat the Elden beast, the Elden ring will become completely vulnerable, slotting a mending rune of "total finger death" becomes possible. Rykard could actually eat the Elden ring if he was strong enough to kill Elden beast.

There is the very distant possibility of someone opening the Gate of divinity and becoming a God without ever seeking permission or guidance from the fingers, and that same God could force his way inside the Erdtree to kill the Elden beast and usurp the Elden ring, gaining full control over the Great runes and the lands between while still having the complete freedom to disobey and even genocide the fingers. No surprise the Elden beast is rejecting the tarnished, we alread proved we are out of control by burning the Erdtree to force our way inside, despite knowing this is a cardinal sin that goe against what fingers want.
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>>93141898
BASED?
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Chainbutt. You get a chain, but you must take an Empyrian from Elden Ring as your consort, they counting as a free companion. If they die, you die. If you die, they die. They are aware of this, and of the consort thing, but that doesn't mean they like it.

Are you skilled enough to tard wrangle them?
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>>93142201
Do I have to first jump Elden Ring?
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>>93142201
>Empyrian from Elden Ring as your consort
What does that mean? I'm not familiar with Elden Ring.
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>>93142203
Nay.
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>>93142080
She burns herself because that is the only way to force the Erdtree to open. The frenzy route is pure gameplay mechanic, in the lore every single being infected by the Frenzied flame went insane instantly with 0% chance of recovery. This is same with Scarlet rot, in the lore the rot is nearly impossible to heal, with your limbs decaying into decaying flesh before your eyes. In the game you can just ignore Scarlet rot if you have enough health flasks on hand, the rot will heal itself.
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>>93142223
Alright, time to grab The Sword Who Cuts The Heavens, Perfect Communication Skills and Glint of Glib first.
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>>93142214
Demigod+++, can potentially mandate a new world order with the correct seat/amplifier like the Elden Ring & it's throne.
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>>93142236
Guess I'm picking up heavy duty sealing and/or brainwashing jump 1
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>>93141519
If we take the full power option for divinity, are we getting an elden ring/ power equivalent to the elden ring? Since you get 1 rune as a 500 cp demigod? Didn't the majority of the power come from the elden ring, which allowed Marika to have this crazy strength?
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>>93142272
We have no idea where the power from the Elden Beast comes from, but no you do not get an Elden Ring because that entire plot is everyone scrambling to fix the existing one. Miquella became a god without being Literally John Elden Ring so it's something like that I guess.

I mean, it's not like being the Elden Ring helped much against the Tarnished so tbqh I'd say you're at the same powerlevel if you're an ayy too.
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I'm just reminded that there's heavy implications that Gold of old was Red, and not Gold.

>>93142118
Do note they are more or less incestuous kids.
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>>93142286
Hmmm, is there any way to get a "fiat backed" elden ring in the jump? Seeing that the elden ring great runes can be destroyed (miquellas) I don't feel so confident that this thing will work for long if I pick it up myself.
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>>93142233
No? What the fuck are you smoking? The last guy who tried is implied to have failed because of his armor.
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>>93142181
>8. Nobilis
>Excrucian (full Excrucian): Deceiver (500)
>Excruciating Existence
>The Welken-Law
>Marvellous Monologue Masterclass
>Friendly Neighbourhood Godslayer
>SOMEWHERE, THERE IS THE SOUND OF
DRUMS (0)
>Eloquent As A Murdered Hope (-200)
>A Chance To Start Over (-400)
>A Bond With Abhorrence (-700)
>The Dream That Dreams Do Dream Of (-1300)
>Scholar of Perseverance (-2300)
>Transcendent: Persona, Hunter, Architect, Allegorical (-3300)
>A Legacy For Eden (-4300)
>A Hunter’s Stable
>The Lie of Iolithae Septimian Being Your Companion

>Obviously Supernatural Being (-4200)
>A Bouquet of Nettles: Entire familia x2 (-3400)
>The Swords of Not: full Excrusian x2 (-2600)
>Imperial Condescension (leaders) x2: Firstborn and Lucifer (-1600)
>Grandmaster’s Wrath (-1000)
>A Visitor From Beyond (0)

Jumper is void titan that has wandered into Creation, and befriended a cute Excrusian. He makes everything holy and worse just by being near, annoys a lot of people and occasionally receives visits from another thing of the beyond where they sit talking for a season.

>9. DC Comics Collab - A Wild Last Boss Appeared
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>>93141519
The way you wrote the Scadutree item is nice. Kinda wanna go for a god of peaceful death chain, like presiding over an afterlife for spirits and rest. You know, "A cold, dark, and very gentle place."

What other jumps have fitting stuff to grab?
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>>93142312
>9. A Wild Last Boss Appeared
>The Seven Races: Elf
>Status
>Level
>Laws Of Physics-san Went On A Vacation
>Attribute: Moon
>(Demi)goddess of Beauty
>The Man Loved By The Goddess
>Devil King (700)
>Alkaid (300)
>The Arch-Enemy (-500)
>Novel System
>Replacement
>Black Wings Of Taboo (-300)
>Defying The Scenario (0)

So, with Gladsheimr, The Gallows and Devil King, Jumper can just level up by absorbing mana and by having those in his soul hierarchy kill for him. Or he could just use his Transcedent Persona to just lie to Alovenus and declare that she is his waifu now.

>10. D.Y.N. Freaks - Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint
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>>93142094
Besides Brunhild, how are the other Valkyries as companions? How much does my jumper need to do before he beds them?
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>>93141076
Nice, any qt goddesses?
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>>93142182
So is everything it does already mentioned in the perk or is it one of those things that doesn't have a lot of lore yet?
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>>93142195
>pic
I do like milfs
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>>93142299
>fat backed
Go back
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>>93141188
Sounds pretty complicated way to start a chain, I'll probably just do 10 jumps
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>>93142195
Reminder Wishlash is only in, like, her mid-late 20s.
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>>93142201
I choose Marika. Its easier to tard wrangle a bunch of rocks.
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>>93142201
>but that doesn't mean they like it.
Poor Radahn.
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>>93142351
>10. Omniscient Reader’s Viewpoint
>Earth, Train 3434, destination Bulwang
>Incarnation
>Chharacter Profile
>What Has Not Been Thought
>Poetic Aesthetics
>Canonically Handsome
>Kill Or Die
>Omniscient Reader (0)
>Three Ways To Survive The Apocalypse
>Invisibility Cloak
>Avatar Doll
>Divine Alcohol
>A Small Loan
>Law Of Probability
>Scenario: A Single Story -Eternity And Epilogue (end jump)

Jumper can just shed a shard/avatar and have them deal with the lower scenarios while he progresses the higher scenarios.

Or he may just lie and have probability problems go away by changing what is considered compliant with the narrative.

It was fun chainbutt.
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>>93142320
None. Because you treat junping like shopping.
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>>93142430
What?
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>>93142430
NTA, but no need to call me out like that
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>>93142430
Of all the posts you could bitch about that to, it's someone with a niche chain theme asking for help finding relevant stuff?
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>>93142430
>Look at the large lists I have for items on my chain
Well shit, you got
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>>93142411
Why did they make the shota a yandere? Couldn't they have given us yandere Ranni instead?
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>>93140394
Professionals have standards.
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I cant figure out what half the perks in slay the princess do.
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>>93142483
It's the nature of small boys.
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>>93142483
Miquella was always sus.
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>>93142490
It just doesn't make for a good jump.
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>>93142483
Griffith, because of FromSoft Berserk references. Galadriel, because of GRRM Lord of the Ring references.
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>>93142371
All pretty though but loving it seems like. See Svava, waifu of Helgi
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>>93142490
It's a setting about two parts of an omnipotent transcendental being being split and forced to kill each other in a cycle in a simulated universe made by a Demiurgic being that directs the player (one half of the being) into killing the other part (the princess).
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>>93142490
>>93142498
One of the few jumps were Dirge's style of jumpmaking would've been wanted.
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>>93142383
Both, desu. It's primary manifestation is a purple Super Saiyan transformation for Guardians that lets them mix and match abilities from different subclasses. But ALSO it's lore significance is that it buffs their Darkness powers enough to hit the Witness' inner dissenters.

>>93142320
I'm gonna be totally honest I totally stole that from some lines about the Anomaly in Destiny, an artifact apparently associated with the Winnower, that I couldn't fit into the actual Destiny jump. The other important half is the ending lines for Shaped Finality.

Also Dark Souls 1, painted world. Pretty sure DS3 has a painted world too.

>>93142299
>fiat backed
I don't believe in fiat backing for my own chain. But even if I didn't, hope. What you CAN do is use the Staff of the Great Beyond to try to summon another one from the Greater Will.

No promises about when or where it'll show up, though I imagine it'll show up relatively quickly given Marika ended her wars before popping out all her kids.
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>>93142533
>I don't believe in fiat backing for my own chain
You certainly used to act like it, using perks from weak settings to fight high level beings.
>>93142490
You must lay the princess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4ekCt9p5F0
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>>93142483
Its kind of implied with rellana who is the secret twin sister of rennalla that she had all along, but she's much stronger as she went to the elden ring battle academy where she became the strongest and learned both combat and sorcery, and she can dual wield swords while dueal wielding sorcery and fire magic, and also can dual wield ranni's and rennallas moons, and that when Carian women fall in love they become obsessed with their lover. So Ranni might turn yandere for the tarnished eventually.
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>>93142490
Feel free to ask for clarification.
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>>93142542
All settings are street level. And as such, can be soloed by man with a gun.
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>>93142543
How is that yandere?
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>>93142483
They’re catering to my tastes
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>>93142558
It's not, people overuse yandere and it's become diluted.
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>>93142543
>Literally El Hermano the character
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>>93142483
Miquella was outright called "the most terrifying Empyrean" even in the base game. But because we didn't know any specifics, we had no idea what this meant until the DLC dropped.
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>>93142562
Linguistic drift is literally a good thing ok
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>>93142551
Nta but it just seems like a few of the perks dont actually say what they do? They read like narrative or story blurbs but I honestly am not sure what some of what Im reading actually DO. To be fair its mostly the colorful ones.
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>>93142543
Until the day Ranni officially orders Blaidd to beat me up so she can rape me, Miquella shall remain best (girl) boy.
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>>93142587
>mostly the colorful ones
In order for the ones I recall then:

>Even The Wounded Are Worthy Of Love
Helps you keep people mentally stable or aid them in recovering from mental trauma.

>A Lover Never Surrenders
Literally just a perk to manifest Smitten's specific brand of plot-derailment. Basically, as long as your faith in "true love" for someone you care about holds true, you get the ability to just ignore something trying to railroad you into a bad outcome.

>Glory Of The Tower
Gives you the Tower's ability to mentally hijack people or weird abstract spiritual fragments of what used to be people, like the Narrator.

>The Wraith's Wrath
Gives you the Wraith's powers and general ability to ignore essentially all harm short of tossing your body off into the void when she possesses you.

>The Apotheosis’ Triumph
Makes you into the Apotheosis, basically a reality-breaking god so large you display your own gravitational field. One of the few Princesses in the category where the Hero just can't beat them.

>A Wild Unity
Makes you into The Wild, which is a crude replication of what TSM & TLQ were like prior to being divided and as such, is only behind TSM proper in terms of power amongst the Vessels. This is observed by it being the only Vessel capable of breaking through the Construct to perceive the 'absolute reality' beyond.
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>>93142628
Thanks for the breakdown!
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So would having an infallible memory let you have infinite spell slots or is using spells in D&D like neuralizing yourself every time you use a spell?
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>>93142542
Uh, perhaps we're using different definitions of fiat backing; I had a similar situation with different terms for "powerwanker" with me assuming it meant "guy who uses convoluted logic to justify NON-EXPANDED UNIVERSE, NON-VIDEOGAME, NON-PALPATINE Jedi snuffing out the sun" and the other guy assuming it meant "guy with a really powerful donut steel mary sue self insert"

But I'm not going to point at, say, The Noble Eightfold Path from Lord of Light and claim it doesn't do what it says on the tin. What I don't do is take a perk that doesn't elaborate on whether or not it loses to some guy with the power to always bonk you on the head with a hammer in some bullshit anime conflict. And where such conflicts occur I just eyeball it rather than believing the perk always works 100% of the time, hence also why I used to double tripe quadruple googagupple down on perks like that for redundancy's sake when fighting an Outer God who probably treated the whole thing like a cat with a particularly excitable cat toy until I got powerful enough to no longer need the training wheels to battle him.

I'm a fiat backer insofar as I believe RAW is true but not one insofar as I also don't believe RAW is as absolute as anything else in the Jumpchain Multiverse I guess?

gosh it feels like it's been a whole week since I've properly talked about my chain and not my jumps
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>>93142533
>What you CAN do is use the Staff of the Great Beyond to try to summon another one from the Greater Will.
Infinite free elden ring glitches? But for real, Does this make the creater deity retroactively real in other settings? Or does it only communicate with us?
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>>93142721
>using spells in D&D like neuralizing yourself every time you use a spell
probably that, considering Keen Mind is a real feat that gives you a perfect memory, but not infinite spell slots.

The spell slot limit, is also more a limit on magic itself, rather than the caster's brain.
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Mystra%27s_Ban
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Most recent time your jumper has felt any semblance of fun?
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>>93141076
Shouldn't domains not be discounted for gods? Or can you take free domains?
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>>93142721
Wizards canonically have mana that they need to recover after using a spell slot so any infinite mana perk should work.
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>>93142721
Using spells in dnd is you getting up in the morning and precasting a spell but leaving a few triggers that can be used to complete the spell later. Its cocking a gun and pulling the trigger later.
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>>93142763
When he was spending time with his family
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>>93142721
An Infallible memory wouldn't actually help since Wizards don't actually lose their memories from casting spells, that's just a headcanon with no source from any the handbook or lore.
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>>93142738
Just think of it like the Scarlet Rot communion staff. It's a tool for communicating with a cosmic being of some kind, and I sincerely doubt it will send the average Jumper infinite Elden Rings unless you're in a setting where that's called for AND it really, really likes you.

And no, it just communicates directly with you.
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>>93142763
Well he took the dragon pope out to play tennis a few days ago. That was pretty fun.
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>>93142815
Nah, I was joking lol, just wondering in lore the greater will can actually create multiple reality warping elden rings. I also wonder where the greater will fucked off to? I wonder if it got killed by some evil counterpart.
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>>93140550
>.I just realised I fucked up and forgot to write a second 400 MD perk for Human but you know what, it's okay
But you did, you just made it 600.
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>>93142832
According to the Mother of Fingers remembrance, she was getting signals from "the beyond of the microcosm" which basically means deep space in context.

>>93142856
I
huh
What the actual fuck was I thinking?
/why did nobody point this out/
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>>93142763
Just this morning the kobolds got it into their heads to play a real life game of Three Cheers for Master (though much less lethally than the card game itself). It's proving wildly entertaining because Jumper is pretty sure they forgot about The Master Is Coming part of the game that's supposed to end it. Since he's already there watching the whole spectacle. It's not like they're surprising him or anything. So they've been clambering all over each other and getting into Big Hairy Fights for a few hours now. It's wildly entertaining to watch.

In other news, Jumper has discovered someone in Control has nearly as deviate tastes in waifus that he does. Pic Related. Poor girl was just shoved into a containment cell. She's not very talkative but quite affectionate.
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>>93142832
The Elden Ring is made out of cosmic forces, forged into a form subservient to the Greater Will's themes, which are fingers, things you wear on fingers (rings), and things you spell out with fingers (runes). It can't make another Elden Ring because there's only one Destined Death to transform into the Rune of Death, and in endings where you side with another Outer God (moon/One Great) you destroy the Elden Ring.
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>>93142832
The Greater Will probably just left and redirected its attention elsewhere. I highly doubt it was killed, especially with the implications given in the DLC.
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>Prismatic Symmetry is now 400 MD
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>>93142866
Because who would care about a Mara perk, why was she EVER put at 600 in the first place?
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>>93142832
I think the elden ring is not a reality warping device, but a materialization of the different laws and concepts that make up the reality of the lands between.
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>>93142920
Because, while believe me I take your point, she did blow up a Pyramid using the residual energy she yoinked from Oryx's Throne World and astral project into a fencing match with Xivu where she...didn't get totally destroyed in a 1v1.

This is about as close as Mara has ever gotten to living up to her own hype. It's not much but honestly it's still something that can't be overlooked even if in the game she's just Crow's cheerleader now.
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>>93142907
Xbox or PlayStation
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>>93142926
Isn't that proven wrong by the entire conflict with Liurnia back in the day? The whole deal was that Liurnia worked on fundamentally incompatible concepts born from the Moon Presence. While their laws and metaphysical bullshittery was different, it rendered the Carian Knights every bit as powerful as the forces of the Golden Order. That's what ultimately caused Radagon to marry Rennala and the Greater Will to capitulate and integrate the Moon Presence's concepts into its Golden Order because they couldn't just conquer them like they did everybody else.
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>>93142934
Well ok, but is that really worth more then using Light AND Darkness TOGETHER?
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>>93141519
I'm gonna fuck the Saint of the bud.
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>>93142934
So, frame of reference for max tier spawn of the stars and divinity?
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So, whay Im getting is Marika's rise to power could've been prevented if the Hornsent decided to only use Jars for executing criminals and didn't go around throwing shamans and non-horny humans in there when resources were low.
...WAIT, Elden Ring is just another Cycle of Violence/Hate story again isn't it!? This is just Martin&Miyazaki's Naruto!
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Isn’t the guild perk in the Overlord jump a bit too op? You can have 90 level 100 NPC unlike Nazarick who have to deal with a bunch of level 50 shitters. Your guild could also generate golds unlike Nazarick. All your NPC can get decked out in Legendary and Divine class equipment
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>>93142937
PC.

>>93142959
It's just one subclass and therefore technically less than the full Guardian arsenal so. Yes?

>>93142970
Examples were provided in the jump.
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>>93142987
Anon, this is Overlord.
That's like complaining that Isekai Slime is OP.
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>>93141787
Ain't that Ikki Tousen? I am pretty sure we do have a Jump for that.
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Does your Jumper have a catchphrase?
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>>93143005
We do? Well shit.
It's a sequel to Tenjo Tenge btw.
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>>93142938
The Greater Will had no stackes in that conflict (or any conflict the golden order engaged in), Marika only gave the OK sign and made the worship of the moon compatible with the goldem order like she did with the dragons.
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>>93143013
>"Did you know that world-renowned writer Stephen King was once hit by a car? Just something to consider."
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>>93142452
Notice nobody said they were wrong or answered the original question?
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>>93143020
At least use interesting or weird trivia. Car accidents are pretty fucking mundane, anon.
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>>93143014
Ikki Tousen is the sequel to Tenjo? Neat.

Still need to plan my jump, but if I do hit Tenjo, then I will do all that I can to fuck with Soichiro, because fuck that piece of trash, he doesn't deserve anything.

Bob kinda cool though, so he gets a pass.
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Good night thread.
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>>93143041
Night!
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>>93141451
I'd actually like to read a short story about someone buying a planet from Frieza.
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>>93142866
>According to the Mother of Fingers remembrance, she was getting signals from "the beyond of the microcosm" which basically means deep space in context.
Yeah, no just another planet? The gw creates everything, creates the finger abomination and then fucked off? Nice god lol
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>>93143037
I'm surprised Tenjo Tenge didn't have a biggus dickus and libidus perk based on Bob.

Aw come on Soichiro was cucked...
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>>93142938
>>93142883
The moon is literally just a big rock, as of the dlc.
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>>93142996
Well your the jumpmaker, and i suppose i can't complain about the petter perk being cheaper.
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>>93143046
It left because of Marika. Up until Marika lost it, it was fully invested in the Lands Between.
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>>93143050
Please do elaborate on that last statement. I don't remember the series all that well, but I do remember Soichiro being the most annoying little shit ever.

And somehow things line up for him.
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>>93142723
>gosh it feels like it's been a whole week since I've properly talked about my chain and not my jumps
I mean, don't you get more variety from talking about jumps proper rather than writing "and I won and maybe there where some shenanigans with waifus/Nyarlathotep" for the 3000th time?
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>>93143053
>Sellen was 100% right all along
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>>93143064
Not necessarily just Marika, but also really properly witness the imperfections and capacity for suffering and sin of it's creation(s).
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>>93142987
Yes, it is quite stronger than Nazarick. The author seemed to have read too many fanfics on what Nazarick could actually field and exaggerated things quite a bit. Or maybe he wanted to crush Nazarick himself.
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>>93143084
It definitely plays in fanfic interpretations of a lot of stuff.
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>>93143070
He got cucked from his MC status. It's very disheartening even if he was a shit at martial arts. Turns out his daddy was a shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KotKpw91-h4
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>>93143064
Even after Marika breaks the ring, it calls the Tarnished back and tries to get a message to you (very slowly) about what to do with the Erdtree. It's clearly more involved than anon is saying.
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>>93143002
>That's like complaining that Isekai Slime is OP.
What if you complain about the meetings? even the latest anime opening is a fucking meeting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOar39luoQU
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>>93143090
>He got cucked from his MC status.
Ahh yes, kinda remember now.....Still don't really feel sorry for him. Sure, his sob story is ok, but his personality is trashfire.

That and I like Maya. Would go for the Sister Pack, but I remember that there was this other dude that was simping for Aya and totally wrecked Soichiro.

I am more than willing to be a bro, as long as the other person is a bro.
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>>93143091
Marika is the one calling the Tarnished, not the Elden Ring. Hell, she's the one responsible for stripping the Tarnished of Grace, exiling them from the Lands Between, and then summoning them back when shit hit the fan and she reaped the consequences of her bullshit. Now she wants Godfrey and The Boys to come back and pull her ass out of the fire.
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>>93143013
>in the name of the god vectron I shall smite thee
>great vectron lend me your power
>by vectron claw!
(there's no vectron)
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>>93143053
That doesn't necessarily contradict it being an entity of godlike power, to be fair. I mean...SOMETHING is going on with the moon in Ranni's ending before she even finished announcing her age. Technically Count Ymir merely says the moon is the nearest celestial body while holding the Greater Will as the supreme being, so it could still be some sort of deity-just not as important as Literally God. I mean, the Frenzied Flame, Scarlet Rot and maybe the fell god just kind of showed up amidst death and ruin so there's precedent for phenomena indicating a god is involved. There's a god of the twinbirds presumably associated with death.

>>93143077
Sellen is onto something though, the existence of spehss amber and it's effects on the human body implies implications.

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Glintstone+Nails

Also depending on how literally you interpret the Mother of Fingers being a "magnificently gleaming daughter" of the Greater Will, maybe it literally is a giant shining space hand. Like Master Hand but even more eldritch.

>>93143076
shuddup and lemme play my own xianxia LITRPG in peace
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>>93143053
>The moon is literally just a big rock, as of the dlc
Bullshit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqn-_Bv-tDQ
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>>93143111
>Jumper is not strong enough that him calling Vectron constantly slowly waves his mythology through different universes, up to the point where Jumper actually starts to gets visions of Vectron and actually starts to gets blessings from him
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>>93143107
Aya, Maya, would fuck both. I'm not really sympathetic for the simp.
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>>93143109
So the Greater Will saddled every Empyrean with a dog boy bodyguard programmed to kill them if they opposed it, but was completely hands off and unconcerned other than that?
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>>93143116
Which option would you say is most appropriate to fanwank as one of the smith golems from the dlc? Race wise.
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Marika was right in shattering the Ring. That's all.
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>>93143126
>squints at Taylew the Golem Smith
>guardian deity
Well, shit.
It's literally a refluffed +200 CP Living Jar, probably one augmented by some build perks too
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>>93143144
Fuck >>93143128
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>>93143126
That was the will and action of the 2 fingers. The greater will didn't do shit, it went to planet milk after dripping that finger mutant and the elden beast
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>>93143126
nta but no, that was the Fingers who did that shit
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>>93143126
The Fingers did that, not the Greater Will. After the establishment of the Golden Order the actual Greater Will didn't step in very much. It only did occasionally when things got out of hand, like the bullshit with the Eternal Cities. But it delegated most of the oversight to the Elden Beast and in turn the Elden Beast delegated the middle management to the Fingers. The Fingers oversaw the Empyreans and gave them the Manchurian bodyguards as a countermeasure. However, the Fingers aren't omniscient and thus their plan had holes in it. The bodyguards, including Maliketh, were programmed for absolute loyalty and didn't even know they could be activated to kill their charge. So when Marika kept Maliketh at such a distance and punished him so severely he was just confused and didn't understand why she distrusted him so much. Likewise, Marika had to keep her plans under the table a lot of the time to fool the Fingers and the Elden Beast. But otherwise, as the designated God of the Golden Order, Marika herself was in charge of pretty much everything. And that includes the Guidance of Grace.
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>>93143126
The greater will literally does nothing besides rain down blessings through the erdtree. The dogs are probably creations of the fingers to keep the Empyreans under their leash
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>>93143126
Also I'm almost off to bed but just wanted to confirm everyone is right about literally everything draconic coming from the idiot fingers and their abandoned mom
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>>93143135
But why did shatter it?
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>>93143148
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>>93143156
So every single one of the Greater Will's servants is totally off the reservation and trying to enforce its Golden Order despite it not caring? Is there a DLC lore quote about this?
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>>93143160
She hit it with a hammer
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>>93143146
>>93143144
Cool, just needed it for a companion build. Saw the one that gives the magma slimes headpats and decided they're just the cutest lumps of stone.
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Is best way to fix Elden Ring setting is to buy the new snaff and ask El Grande Padre to pretty please come back from the tabaco store and help us fix this shit.
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>>93143116
So i know Shaped Finality lets you become Witness 2.0, but what is the highest potential of the other capstones?
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>>93143182
Not how, why. You absolute fucking DUMB DUMB!
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>>93143166
It's more that Marika went rogue a LONG time before the Shattering and has been actively working against the Greater Will. She's been involved in a lot of the conspiracies going on either directly or indirectly. In turn, the Greater Will has been forced to clean up her mess constantly over the years. This eventually culminated in it finally just giving up and leaving after Marika shattered the Elden Ring. But the Elden Beast and the Fingers were still there. Without the Greater Will, their ability to manage the Lands Between faltered substantially and the Fingers themselves began to grow old and decay. They've been struggling to hold together the Golden Order despite the Greater Will throwing its hands up and storming out ages ago.
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>Greater will this
>fingers that
Personally, I'm just amused by the Lore reveal that the God of Rot is APPARENTLY also the God of Pickles/Fermentation, and at the existence of friendly pacifist kindred that share recipes with you.
...does that mean that Malenia's daughters all have different types of pickles and booze as their favorite foods?
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>>93143192
You asked "why did it shatter" not "why did she shatter it"
Grammer is important
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>>93143193
Where is the proof in the game for any of this?
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Elden ring has lore? I thought it was only vague dialogue and item descriptions.
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>>93143216
In the opening cutscene and in-game item descriptions.
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>>93143220
>vague dialogue and item descriptions
At least Elden Ring's lore includes item descriptions, most story is told through just the boring ass vague dialogue.
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>>93143220
That's pretty much it, that's why people are arguing about lore a lot since it's a lot of 'implied' or 'not implied' a lot. Basically arguing the correct way to fill the blanks.
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>>93143241
I hope from stops doing 30% concrete things, 70% headcanon stories from now on. It worked for Dark souls but its getting ridiculous in Elden Ring
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>>93143166
Count Ymir's lines, the Rememberance of the Mother of Fingers, and for the Greater Will's intrinsic kindness Minor Erdtree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DyUqPlj1YU

>>93143190
>Witness 2.0
Depending on how hard they wank the Echoes, the fusion of Light and Dark as a big deal, and the actual "Witness 2.0 candidates", prepare to set your expectations higher. The Winnower certainly does. As for the others

>Fallen
Being a REALLY big Darkness-empowered zombie/vampire bugman sitting atop a pile of garbage with a talking robot in one hand, a bag of money in the other, and your other two hands twirling pistols
>Cabal
Calus and Ghaul had a mpreg baby that somehow wasn't a fuckup. I should say something about Caiatl too but desu her main strongpoint as a leader is less outstanding command or psionic powers, and more just...desperately trying not to fuck up as hard as the other two
>Hive
Literally cannot answer that until Savathun shows off more of what her new Light powers can do combined with Hive magic, and when inevitably somehow, Oryx returns
>Vex
Singularity from Bayonetta but more autistic
>Ahamkara
You have the power to course correct Destiny into a better story as long as you don't erase the key players from existence, while still railroading the plot to be the friendly but terrifying wish dragon the Vanguard makes excuses again and again to keep working with against their better judgement.
>Virtuous Worm
I'd say "somehow, Akka will return" but honestly a fucking moon-sized worm that can shitpost people out of existence and probably turn itself into a perpetual motion Dyson Sphere is self-explanatory
>Taken
Rhulk with Nezarec's pain bullshit but also a Taken's respawn instead of the shitty Disciple tree life support system, able to Take things and people, has intangible immunity to conventional attacks and can create Dread of his own.
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So off the topic of Elden ring. You anons know where to potentially get the tech to turn a massive castle or city into a mech? Or give it the ability to transform into one?
Have a dumb idea I wanna do
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>>93143259
Exalted
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>>93143259
Soul Eater.
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>>93143259
Exalted: Heavens Reach.
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>>93143259
I don't remember if it's explicitly on offer in the jump but Soul Eater can do that.
The other option is to check out how Imperator Titans are constructed in 40k.

Oh and also look at Mortal Engines tech.
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>>93143263
>>93143268
>>93143269
>>93143273
Thanks Anons. I'll look into those. Want to turn Jumpers main castle into a mech for emergencies. (Jumper just thought it was cool honestly.)
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>>93143220
>I thought it was only vague dialogue and item descriptions.
That's intro level loremongering
The real sages and mystics base lore and narratives off of overly analyzed architecture and comparisons to real-world inspiration, lile using the Fingers to draw parallels to the Raskol Scism
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>>93143284
>Fan lore: "Myess, this is clearly an oblique reference to the duality between the Kabbalah's Tree of Life and it's Qlippoth, Miyazaki has done it again!"
>Japanese developer's brain: "I love Berserk!"
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>>93143255
>I'd say "somehow, Akka will return" but honestly a fucking moon-sized worm that can shitpost people out of existence and probably turn itself into a perpetual motion Dyson Sphere is self-explanatory
Why is it that this random offscreen character has more haxy bullshit then any onscreen character except maybe Oryx with his Taken?
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>>93143259
Macross combined with mega engineering perk you can get from Evangelion.
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>>93143301
You're not too far off considering how the lorebrains interpreted the use of the Sumerian Map Tablet in the old Palace Ruins above and below ground
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>>93141451
That sounds like a good idea though, if you could afford it. What kind of money does frieza use? Can we just buy earth?
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>>93143301
You say that, but consider that Skardu is just an engrish version of Skuld. Skardu and Erd. Skuld and Urd. The two trees are named off of the Norns of Past and Future. Though it's a shame Miquella name his tree Halig instead of Verđandi or something to that effect
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The smart plan for ER is to hit up Oh My Goddess first, grab an Ygdrassil Node, and install it into the Erdtree/Skardutree for free cosmic wifi
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>>93139496
How to not piss off the rest of wives when I'm spending 500 years in the Silmarillion jump (No OCP items and powers beyond those representing luck and fortune, and skills that do not use metaphysical powers) with only 8 companion slots. I was thinking of drawing lots to decide who gets to join this jump.
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>>93142567
It's la hermana in this case though.
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>>93143484
>500 years in the Silmarillion jump
>No OCP
Better question: how does aging interact with the respawn clause for your wives/companions since no OCP means at least some of them won't have the natural lifespan to survive that timeframe.
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>>93140630
I usually take it after Katana Zero. Take the one hit drawback. Chronos effectively allows you do "press r to restart' shenanigans for the authentic HM feel.
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Golemancy? Or magic systems with good automata or the like?
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True and educated ranni hater and gold mask truther here, I'd like to correct a false assumption made by some who wish to paint the age of stars badly in the wrong way.
"Onze, a master swordsman who devoted himself to the Star-Lined Sword, realized that only ruin awaited at the end of the procession of stars, and imprisoned himself in order to forestall it."

Procession is defined as "a number of people or vehicles moving forward in anorderlyfashion"
It's referring to the MOVEMENT of stars leading to ruin which he tried to halt. This description isn't about ranni at all, it shows that before radahn others attempted to stop the movement of stars before him and it potentially gives a reason on why he froze the stars, he came to the same realization that fate ends in doom.

I will make a post shortly about ACTUAL ranni related dlc lore and why she's genuinely fucking retarded and her plan was pointlessly evil and misguided.
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ANTI RANNI NEW LORE POST CONTINUED
We later learn that the moons aren't actually that important, especially not in the grand scheme of things like the carians and ranni especially believes. A lot of what she did was guided by the moon she saw when she was younger, if the moon truly isn't special like he suggests and rellana's summoning of two is seemingly hinting at, then ranni would've simply seen the moon and based her entire life and ruined thousands of lives based on her own cultural delusions of how the carian moons work.
We also know, one of ranni's main sources of ire, the fingers, isn't actually working for the greater will and weren't before she was born. Why does this matter? While yes, iji is the one who blames the greater will, ranni and everyone else still sees the fingers as interpreters and servants of the greater will even if it's not the case, so no matter how you put it, her rebellion is still just her trying to topple down a system, who's figurehead isn't even there. Meaning that, even though she didn't know herself, she didn't have to kill herself and get so many others killed to achieve her goals.

Essentially ranni came to the right conclusions for the worst reasons, and had many easier ways to go about her plans without all of the bloodshed. Ranni is a misinformed brat who ruined countless lives just so she could do what the fingers wanted her to do in the first place.
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>>93143573
>>93143547
Didn't ask, doll wife, life good.
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>>93143573
I am going to do EXCESSIVELY lewd things with my doll wife and you cannot stop me.
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>>93143534
We bought pool of light (SB/reddit? version combined with stormbringeranon ver.) to give us immortality and picked the Numenorean origin. Goal of the jump is obliterate Sauron's physical form and establish an independent kingdom without being imperialist dickheads.

Respawn works as normal but no warehouse means they spawn in jump entry point.
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Yeah. I really don't wand to handle coming up with purchase names for the Hitman jump. What would be the best way to make that your guys' problem?
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>>93143666
Post the descriptions for the perks/items/whatever, then ask us what would be a good/fitting name for them.
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>>93143573
>Wow it turns out this vague bullshit actually has even more vague implications
I can't believe this is the kind of shit you retards have been shitting up the thread over.
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I wonder if there's anything stopping me from just sharing the google docs link with commenting privileges. I've never seen anyone here do that before, so I assumed there was some reason not to do that.
>>93143671
Too many for that to be a practical approach. Well, maybe If I do it over several threads, but that would get annoying pretty fast.
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>>93143715
Just post a wip doc so we can see the whole thing at once.
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>>93143723
Fair
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>>93143685
>Noooooooooooooooooooo why are you ruining the thread by talking about a setting we have a jump for that isn't Fate and Naruto!?
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>>93143573
Yes, Goldmask is the best ending. This was already known and accepted as fact.
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>>93143739
We can talk about how certain jumpmakers should be killed irl because they're terrible jumpmakers if you want variety?
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>>93143715
It's pretty commonly done on Reddit, so people may sjitpost about that. But otherwise it works decently enough.

I think Bramastra may have posted to google doc link to his FMA jump here a few years ago.
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Reading the Dragon Half jump for the first time. Can someone explain what this means? Because I can't make sense of it.
>Latent Power – Everyone, jumper and companion, can pick any one perk that is priced 600cp or less. All purchases of that perk are discounted for them. This perk does not take effect until age 17 in jump, regardless of origin, or post jump for those who took the Just A Kid drawback. The effect of the Stupidly Powerful perk applies to the chosen perk as though it came from your origin if applicable. This does not activate the 17 boost for perks that are not normally discounted for your origin.
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Rolled 1, 5 = 6 (2d10)

>>93141188
What chain does the dice have for me?
>1: Hero BBS or Generic Gamer
>2: Exalted Solars or Lyrical Nanoha
>3: Campione or MGE
>4: Fake Saint Of The Year or Nirvana Yuga
>5: Fate Extella or Everyone Else is a Returnee
>6: Exalted Shards Heavens Reach or Exalted First Age
>7: World Seed or Warhammer Fantasy High Elves
>8: The Land of the Rising Sun or Generic Xianxia
>9: Link To The Past or Twilight Princess
>10: TSF World or High School DxD
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>>93142866
>/why did nobody point this out/
I thought this was intentional.
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Rolled 2, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2 = 13 (10d2)

>>93143800
Let’s try that again.
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>>93143573
>The Mother received signs from the Greater Will
It directly says that the Mother WAS receiving the Greater Will's orders, and was only later abandoned. Nothing ever suggests that the Elden Beast, her presumed replacement, was ever abandoned, and either way, even if the fingers are making shit up, they're doing so by extrapolating orders they had previously received, because they were still loyal to the Greater Will:

>she kept waiting for another message to come.

And even if the Golden Order was purely invented by the Fingers... so what? How does overturning the Golden Order created by the Greater Will in any way differ from overturning the Golden Order created by the Two Fingers, who were lying and saying that it was ordained by the Greater Will?
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YFsQFvYU6LIwv3vBvYHSlygGJfAloxKyZFarTEB-bTc/edit?usp=sharing
Lets see if I come to regret this.
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>>93143812
>Generic Gamer
>Exalted Solars
>MGE
>Fake Saint Of The Year
>Fate Extella
>Exalted Shards Heavens Reach
>World Seed
>The Land of the Rising Sun
>Link To The Past
>High School DxD
Should have stuck another xianxia jump in there, but on the whole a decent chain.
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>>93143739
My objection is so because for every other franchise this shit gets called out, but at least they occasionally have discussions about how the setting interacts with Jumpchain. You retards are literally reading item descriptions and coming to the thread to talk about how you discovered a new arbitrary "fact". Actually I should shut the fuck up because when I complained about Fate people started spamming Exalted, and when I complained about that they started talking about Naruto, Toaru, JJK, and MGE. Perhaps if I just let you retards have this we won't be having conversations about Kagura Bachi next.
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>>93143779
You mean YJ?
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>10 hours to get through the first act of cyberpunk 2077.
Admittedly that's only because I like to clear Watson before going through with the heist, but goddamn. I'm gonna sleep now.
Oh, fun fact, if you get 10x the normal amount of XP, clearing Watson will have you reaching the level cap just before you go on the heist.
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>>93143867
Night night fren.

Interesting fun fact. I tend to clear Watson, then spend several hours grinding in a circular pattern to reach level cap.
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>>93143852
People talk about what they want, not what you want. Cope with it.
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>>93143857
No. Pieces of shit like Trouble, SonicCody, and Dirge who are probably sex offenders irl
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>>93143857
YJ produced absolute Ludokino and was the most based jumpmaker ever thou? Trannies and faggots still seethe about him to this day.
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How do I maintain the economy of a small magitech nation after leaving the world that many of the resources needed for its industry can be found? Particularly early chain?
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>>93143573
i just think ranni is not all that smart. Literally, what the FUCK would she do if not for us? It would literally be over for her if we didnt strolled into her house
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Ranni erotic!
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>>93143939
>didnt strolled
didnt stroll. However fromsoft seems to love ranni so she is most likely right
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>>93143939
Marika's childrens are cursed, please understand
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My objective is to restore Melina's body and build a lineage on that after getting the throne.
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>>93143013
Momantai.
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>>93143053
That's what a moon is, yeah.
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>>93143937
What kind of Resources are we talking about?
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>>93143886
Cope with trying to get me to cope.
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>>93144074
Mithril, various magic herbs, monster parts, and so on. Things that go into magic items and potions, particularly those used for the dungeonpunk equivalent of consumer goods.
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>>93143841
Someone replaced the cover image with a horse cock.
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>>93144142
I don't think you can do anything like that with only commenter privileges. Even if they could, I made a backup copy of the jump right before sharing the link.
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>>93144180
Perhaps I'm misreading this but I think anon was making a joke about the protagonist's head.
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>>93144195
I am very dense. So that is a strong possibility.
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>>93143852
I will now spite you by talking about something else and dominating all thread discussion with it. God hoping, you will kill yourself from the shitting you will do later.
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>>93144195
Nah I was just trying to goof on Gene for a second... Does 47's head look like a horsecock to you anon?
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>>93144208
No, but comparing a bald head to a dick is a common joke. The horsecock part confused me but I figured it could be some variant of the joke that I'm not familiar with.
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>>93144217
Fair enough.
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>>93143313
Because the Worm Gods are bullshit. You do not understand just how massively lore and theorizing exploded when the Books of Sorrow released and we had almost offhand lines of the Virtuous Worms being so absurdly huge that you could fit cities atop their bodies and they wouldn't be noticeable.
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>>93144139
Hmm, maybe this Item from Generic Xianxia?
>Renewable Resources [400]
>The many professions in these worlds will often make use of materials unique to them. Without access to these materials, one would effectively have to reinvent the wheel in order to make do without them. This pocket realm serves the purpose of allowing you to replenish those supplies. Effectively a world unto itself, this realm stretches off endlessly into the distance. Just about every terrain imaginable exists here somewhere. The plains and forests are lush with both flora and fauna. Deposits of minerals and ores can be found deep within the earth or mountains. Should you bring in any new species or materials, the realm would adjust to include them too. Once you have stripped an area of its needed resources, you can choose to appear elsewhere in the realm in future, effectively resetting the resource deposits. Just bear in mind that the beasts and carnivorous plants that call this realm home aren't miraculously going to be tame.
Just spread variour access points to the pocket dimension in your nation and have your people constantly raid/mine/harvest it. You could have your military do it, or just rely on things like adventurer's guilds and private mining companies and the like.
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>>93143135
No you fucking weren't, Marika you fetid whore.
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>>93143096
>he doesn't like the meetings
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The main issue with the Golden Order is that the whole thing was shit to begin with and the whole game is throwing that fact into your face nonstop from Limgrave to the Mountaintops of the Giants. It's wild to me that there are even apologists still willing to defend it. The Omens, the Misbegotten, the Demihumans, the Fire Giants, the Dragons, the Tarnished, the list goes on and on. The sheer number of groups, factions, and races that got fucked by the Golden Order's establishment and who suffer miserably under its continued existence outnumbers those who prosper under it 10-to-1. You literally run headfirst into this very fact when you step out of Limgrave and the small group of people who smugly enjoy grace under the Golden Order ridicule you for being a filthy Tarnished. Marika herself declares that anyone who couldn't or wouldn't conform to the Golden Order would be annihilated, enslaved, or exiled. The Greater Will wasn't some beneficent god who came to enlighten everyone and whose Order was simply misunderstood and abused. It was always, from the very outset, about raising up a minority of people and obliterating absolutely everyone who didn't fit into the Golden Order's framework. Which consisted of like 80% of the residents of the Lands Between at the time.

The whole thing needs to be torn down and anyone with eyes can see that. The very notion of trying to "fix" it is ridiculous because the fundamental underlying premise was never going to function in the long term to begin with. Removing Marika or altering some insignificant aspect so one group or another benefits isn't going to change anything at all. Nor is creating a new Order based on it. Ranni was right, the whole fucking thing needs to go. It needs to be torn up by the roots because it fucking sucked from the start and the Greater Will is an incompetent retard who caused immeasurably more misery and suffering than it did good in the Lands Between.
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>>93143791
It sounds like you choose another perk in the jump and it gets a power boost, which is further clarified in the Stupidly Powerful perk, but you don't get the perk until you grow up.

The "everyone" bit is kind of weird though. It makes it sound like all of your companions also get to pick a perk.
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>>93144142
>Good work, 47
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>>93144206
Jokes on you, God doesn't exist, and if he did he wouldn't hope.
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>>93144271
> Greater Will wasn't some beneficent god who came to enlighten everyone and whose Order was simply misunderstood and abused. It was always, from the very outset, about raising up a minority of people and obliterating absolutely everyone who didn't fit into the Golden Order's framework.
The Greater Will's miracles and blessing could be used by everyone and were intended for everyone to use. Marika is the one who turned what it gave into the Golden Order and that's because Hornsent PTSD literally made her into a completely unhinged Order-obsessed genocidal tyrant. Under normal circumstances, the Greater Will has none of the stupid shit that the Golden Order entails, it isn't even a "Golden Order" at all.
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>>93141601
All the time. It's not a problem. Satisfying my horny is enough value to jump for, unless I'm still early chain and trying to secure my continued and jumping.
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>>93141076
If you have the higher purchase of Cutting the Thread do you still benefit from the luckiness of the lower level?
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>>93144271
The world before the Golden order was even worse, and removing Golden order just means Outer gods like formless mother and God of rot can now sponsor their favored race to kill and enslave all the others. You need a better plan than just removing the only source of stability(Golden order) and fucking off to the stars while everyone else gets hunted down and sacrificed to the Formless mother/God of rot/Fell god of the giants, that just being irresponsible. Don't break what is working if you cannot replace it with something better.
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>>93144265
Are they like the café meetings in Re: Creators or Accel World? Because fuck that shit.
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>>93141601
That's what the bots are for.
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>>93144407
Ranni is literally replacing it though. Like that's the entire point of her ending. She's an Empyrean, remember? She destroys the Golden Order because she doesn't need it.
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>>93141601
That feels like inroads to the sort of powerwanky talk that thinks slice of life settings "aren't worth it" for some reason. If you wanna waifu someone, just do it - that shit was never about the pragmatism to begin with because if you really wanted to min-max any personnel-adjacent vessel would've sufficed and the question would be moot anyway.
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How the fuck are you guys already done with the DLC and this versed in the lore? It released like two days ago.
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>>93144452
Their favorite YouTuber who had a review copy.
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>>93143096
You can complain how in the last LN chapter the 2 characters with OP bullshit abilities are fighting by swinging swords at each other.
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>>93144271
The greater will is indiscriminate about who gives its blessings to, everyone can receive them from dragons, to Hornsent, to humans, to Albinaurics. The problem is that Marika purposely denied its blessings to the groups of people she didn't like. Goldmask was right, the problem with the golden order is Marika and Radagon and the fingers literally every problem was caused because the gods were falliable and had their own personal agendas.

Removing the elden ring and erdtree will only make the world worse because the giant glowing tree providing healing and nourishment is no longer there, people will still kill each other and do horrible things regardless of the fingers or frenzy flame telling them so; And because the greater will isn't even paying attention to the world anymore. Removing the ring does nothing as you're only banning TGW from the world but not FF or the Rot goddess or any other outer god. If the most powerful god couldn't prevent them from having influence in the world, then the moon will also be unable to do that.
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>>93144452
Game files
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I'm going to introduce the First Flame.
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>>93144452
I doubt the people talking about the lore played it.
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>>93144514
I'm going to introduce the Soul Arts and watch all of these retards go the way of Allant.
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>>93144519
So it's probably the same people that talk about Exalted.
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None of this would have happened if Placidusax was still president.
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>>93144544
Literally anyone other than Marika as Empyrean would have prevented this.
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>>93144514
Based beyond belief
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>>93144557
Ok ok Golden Orden, Marika blah blah. Is there any interesting build or item to pick with the Elden Ring dlc?
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>>93144600
Highlights for me are The staff the Great Beyond and Skibiditree
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>>93144350
>The Greater Will's miracles and blessing could be used by everyone and were intended for everyone to use.
>The greater will is indiscriminate about who gives its blessings to, everyone can receive them from dragons, to Hornsent, to humans, to Albinaurics.
Where the fuck was this said?
Literally the only piece of evidence that I've seen so far that the Greater Will is this benevolent deity is the "Only the kindness of gold, without Order" quote from the minor Erdtree spell, which is vague as fuck. Extrapolating that to mean that the Greater Will is an all-loving god that literally had its everything misinterpreted is one hell of a stretch.
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Anyone who argues for any ending other Ranni's neither played the game nor read anything in the lore. They're all tertiaries who's entire knowledge of the game is based on 4chan posts
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>>93144527
Do we have a demon souls jump?
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>>93144651
Yes, its old but solid if you take it before any other soulslike jump.
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>>93144620
Anon, the first Elden Lord ever was fucking dragon and the Omen where considered blessed during the crucible era. Now thanks to ymir questline a few item descriptions we know it was Marika, Not greater will, who decided to hunt down the omen and ruin everything so much god decided not to communicate anymore. Which didn't stop the fingers from making shit up and attribute theor agendas to the GW
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>>93144407
>>Don't break what is working
Too late, Marika already did that herself. Whether it was working or not before, it certainly isn't working right now.
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>>93142201
Never said it had to be a canon Empyrean.
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>>93144624
Shut the fuck up, Miyazaki. I'm not fucking your waifu.
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>>93144620
>Where the fuck was this said?
In the same lore, both base game and DLC, there are multiple cases of the GW's abilities being used primarily to heal, rejuvenate, restore, or purge afflictions. The needles of unalloyed gold literally exist solely to drive out negative Outer God influence amongst other things.

>is the "Only the kindness of gold, without Order" quote from the minor Erdtree spell, which is vague as fuck.
I do not know how you got "vague as fuck" from it all but outright saying "literally pure kindness without Order". We also know that the GW was perfectly fine bestowing it's miracles on EVERYONE originally because there's nothing preventing any given group from learning miracles or spells relating to it.
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>>93144620
>>93144675
Omens were also explicitly blessed as well in the era prior to Marika ascending. Omens, that we know for a fact are persecuted and treated like shit in the Golden Order THAT MARIKA MADE.

There's so much shit pointing to the general benevolence of TGW thanks to the DLC recontextualizing things that it's one of the few things we can say definitively in ER as a setting.
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What’s a reasonable excuse for an evil god to put a woman in charge of his army of rape monsters? Outside of “I trained her wrong on purpose, as a joke” and variations thereof such as “to dramatically betray her later”?
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>>93144710
Godhand style "Do as thou wilt".
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>>93144710
It is its fetish.
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>>93144710
>"O Lord, why hast thou put a woman in charge of thy rape legion?"
>God knelt down from his mighty throne to look at me, and spake thus: "Tiddies."
>And lo, I was blessed with knowledge divine.
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>>93144710
She’s into that.
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>>93143812
You got the exact same roll that I did. Are 4chans dice actually random?
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Can't we all just agree that there are many ways to interpret vague bullshit and that it won't change the way your chain goes, because you're going to get sent to the version of the universe where you're actually right?

Because, as the author of the story, you can ensure that happens.
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>>93144710
Few men hate women as much as women hate other women, and few men know how to torment women as effectively as other women. A sadistic bitch will unironically make your rape legion more effective.
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>>93144745
Well.

I guess Sirin is going to be taking an awful lot of dragon dick when she isn’t trying to genocide humanity.
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>>93144271
Strong disagree.
Everything YOU the player see is AFTER the order has been broken. The keystone of reality has been broken. In game it's stated that the landscape changed because it got fucked up. People were living good lives under the golden order. Yes, fuck omen, and fuck giants. Also fuck merchants. People were living perfect, eternal lives in an godlike beautiful city. The problem? Marika broke it. However just because it wasn't perfect doesn't mean it wasn't the best available. You want to live under the hornsent? Everything worked out for tausends of years, at least 5k. HUMANS were the minority. And they got uplifted, so all is good lol.
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>>93144746
Thats the thing about randomness. If it really is random it could come out the same multiple times in a row.
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>>93144710
>"Because she has no cock to rape with, the only way for her to satisfy her dark urges is to use others to experience it vicariously. If the Forces of Darkness were led by a monster with a dick to get wet then they'd just ignore my directives and probably get distracted even if they were loyal. A woman dedicated to the power of evil and rape will, by contrast, put all of their energy into maximizing the efficacy of the army she leads, because she cannot participate in its activities herself."
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>>93144753
How strong would Obito be if he had Rasengan?
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>>93144746
Either they aren’t, or we hit a 1 in 1024 chance. I decree this means we both get two more jumps picked from the ones we didn’t roll.
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>>93144771
No idea. I have paid absolutely no attention to Naruto on purpose.
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>>93144754
>>93144766
Herrscher of rape is go, I guess.
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>>93144710
She's a mindbroken former Hero/Saintess who was supposed to defeat you, and now eagerly user her prowess on your behalf.
Or she's just very competent in general, being very intelligent, vicious and charismatic, and she voluntarily joined you out of pure selfishness.
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>>93144771
I don't think that would meaningfully effect anything. Now, Obito with shadow clones sounds like a nightmare because unlike anyone else's clones his would never pop because they Sans Undertale dodge every attack.
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>>93144793
I want to see the picture immediately proceeding this one.
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I like big trees, how do I hybridize the Erdtree with an Archtree?
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>>93144271
While many atrocities were committed in establishing the golden order, it offered prosperity and immortality to the people who weren't genocided. Removing it now isn't going to bring the people it killed back. The choices for good endings are Goldmask's (restore the Golden Order's prosperity and hope the Greater Will doesn't stab you in the back for being too liberal like it did to Godfry) and Ranni's (remove all the magic and miracles, both good and bad, out somewhere else so that life is shittier but less dangerous).
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>>93144803
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>>93144812
Shut the fuck up Goldmaskfag, the golden order is bad and just a perpetuation of fundamental rot.
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>>93144763
I get that but it's funnier if the jannies have a dice switch that they can flip to make everyone roll a certain way.

>>93144780
I agree! Two more jumps!
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>>93144800
dont forget that he has wood release and could just use wood clones, which are superior than Shadow Clones not only in durability, but also by giving you a live telepathic connection/sense sharign with each other.
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>>93144810
I don't know but it's probably going to involve one of Tenchi Muyo's tree ships by the time you're done.
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>>93144659
True, dragons & omens (which you didn't mention prior, motherfucker) are among those the GW would bless. Though Omens are just humans that have been touched by the Crucible, they're not a separate race.
But when do we see the implication that the albinaurics for example could be blessed? Because I certainly don't remember that. They may be hanging around the Haligtree, but Miquella messed with that.
>Now thanks to ymir questline a few item descriptions we know it was Marika, Not greater will, who decided to hunt down the omen and ruin everything so much god decided not to communicate anymore.
Ok, but why did the GW not fucking do anything prior to the Shattering if Marika was fucking up so much? It clearly had the power to stop her given what it did right after the Shattering.
>>93144675
>In the same lore, both base game and DLC, there are multiple cases of the GW's abilities being used primarily to heal, rejuvenate, restore, or purge afflictions. The needles of unalloyed gold literally exist solely to drive out negative Outer God influence amongst other things.
Just because something can be used to heal doesn't mean it's a purely benevolent force. And of course the GW would presumably not want other outer gods encroaching on its shit.
>We also know that the GW was perfectly fine bestowing it's miracles on EVERYONE originally because there's nothing preventing any given group from learning miracles or spells relating to it.
That's a game abstraction, anon. What groups do we actually see in game using GW spells & miracles?
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>>93144797
>she voluntarily joined you out of pure selfishness
I mean, I'd probably take the job offer of being in charge of a bunch of rape demons, over NOT taking it and still being in close proximity to rape demons at that time. Even better if I get divine/infernal powers out of the deal.
It's very pragmatic, when you think about it.
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>>93144757
>t. Emps
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>>93144842
I think those are actually a double edged sword though, because you'd have to focus on piloting all of them and you couldn't do too many. Shadow clones seem coordinated as hell without any telepathic connection.
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>>93144812
The greater will never betrayed Godfrey and it took Marika smashing the ring for it to abandon her.

>>93144830
Kys, tRanniSIMP.
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I WILL use the SWORD OF AKASHA on the GREATER WILL.
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>>93142379
Freya (though she's a slut), Idunn
>>93142768
No, there's no discount
Should clarify that, thanks
>>93144381
Yes
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>>93144847
>Ok, but why did the GW not fucking do anything prior to the Shattering if Marika was fucking up so much?
It only intervened when shit was severely out of control and was clearly relying on the Elden Beast and the Fingers to bring her in line, which they didn't because the Fingers had their own goals in mind. By the time the Shattering actually occurred, it was already gone.
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>>93144856
>it took Marika smashing the ring for it to abandon her
THAT'S NOT A POINT IN ITS FAVOR
Also it totally betrayed Godfrey lol
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Personally, I'd rather solve racism by having an Imperial Harem consisting of a representative of each race/species.
Through dick, unity.
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>>93144835
>I agree! Two more jumps!
I claim Nirvana Yuga and Generic Xianxia. What’ll you take?
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>>93144753
If people agreed to that then they wouldn't have anything to argue endlessly about and the thread would slow down even more. We need arguments just as much as we need to attack and harass bad jumpmakers and anyone who doesn't agree.
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>>93144876
It is because it was clearly trying to tardwrangle the worst of her behaviors up to a point, and that point was far exceeded when she shattered the thing it gifted to help govern the Lands Between and plunged the entire Land into an endless fucking rat race between her brood to kill enough people to storm and claim the Runes needed to make themselves the new top dogs.
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How can I be less of a Chad?
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>>93144852
Madara was doing fine using 25 of them to fight all 5 kage 5v1.

I feel like Hashirama struggling can be explained by him still kinda being Naruto.
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>>93144865
It doesn't even have a body. And it's no longer paying attention to the Lands Between so tough fucking luck getting anything regarding where it is.
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My brain is now drawing comparisons between the Greater Will and the Unconquered Sun.
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>>93144851
Unironically, what did Marika wrong?
We have to remember that in-universe, she's not omnipotent. She's not capable of warping reality to the extent of literally wiping out every single problem in the world. The frenzied flame will literally destroy the world, if it gets strong enough. The Omen are literally abominations for what they did. The shit they did is literally making the Japanese unit in World War II and any war atrocity look lame in comparison. The fire giants held the power of the Fel God, which could destroy Marikas entire civilization. marika never did anything wrong in that aspect. For humans, everything was perfect. People act like she one day stood up and slaughtered people left and right for no fucking reason. She did everything she did in order to secure a good life and, most importantly, a safe life. Our ancestors slaughtered for less.
The main problem is why shatter the elden ring? Ranni, miquellan and malenia were not bad people. She should have been okay with giving power to them
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>>93144888
Peaceful Isekai for my tardwife and KonoSuba for my other tardwife.
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>>93144908
The SWORD OF AKASHA will simply kill it regardless.
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>>93144899
Post in the Jumpchain CYOA threads
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>>93144899
Just be yourself.
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>>93144908
Nta but I tought he was talking about Code Geass' sword of Akasha, wich destroy abstract concepts, wouldn't that work?
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>>93144909
The Greater Will doesn't have TUCS crippling divine Xbox addiction and y'know, actually gave a shit about improving people's lives until Marika made everything go to shit.

Sub it in for TUCS and the Primordials and you'd probably have it doing semi-decently st managing Creation. Solars/Lunars/Sidereals are retarded, but only the absolute worst are Marika levels of bad.
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>>93144899
Be like me and use Creative Mode.
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>>93144847
>>93144847
>which you didn't mention prior, motherfucker
I only mentioned them because you listed them among the persecuted races. Which has never been true for dragons.
>But when do we see the implication that the albinaurics for example could be blessed
Why couldn't they be blessed? We know that The greater will blessed omens, dragons, Numen, and beastmen. Albinaurics wouldn't be different if they didn't exist during Marika's reign.

>Ok, but why did the GW not fucking do anything
Who knows. Its first instinct after Marika ruins everything for everyone is fucking off who knows where in the great beyond and refusing to talk to her or the fingers. Maybe he's neutral stupid pacifist.
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>>93144930
I was, in fact, referring to Code Geass' SWORD OF AKASHA.
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>>93144930
The Elden Ring itself is made from and defines several abstract metaphysical concepts in The Lands Between and it was just something the Greater Will made whose loss ultimately does not impact it in the slightest. Factoring in the DLC all but outright stating that it's Literally God and made everything that exists as well, and its ambiguous if an abstract-killing sword would reliably work on it, especially when there's nothing to really hit. Even if you could find and stab it though, you may as well just go full Lord Of Frenzy since I highly doubt the universe would survive sans it.
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>>93144876
No it didn't dumbass. Marika literally stripped the grace and told him to get out of the house and work out because he was getting soft.
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>>93144876
Godfrey was never betrayed by the Greater Will, that was Marika fucking him over by literally shipping him off to the boonies until she had to beg him and the rest of the guys she shipped him off with to come back and bail her ass out of the fire.
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>>93144896
By sending the Elden Beast, a second fallen star who also decided to totally support Radahn and the Golden Order instead of Marika? Weird how literally everyone the Greater Will ever talks to comes away with the understanding that it wants to wipe out all potential rivals and control the world forever.
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>>93144961
The SWORD OF AKASHA was going to be used to kill LITERALLY GOD in CODE GEASS already.
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>>93144990
Since when does the Elden Beast support Radahn? As far as we know the Beast is just a Guardian dog meant to protect the ring who got triggered after Marika smashed it.
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>>93144970
>>93144980
Marika is the Golden Will's sockpuppet, idiots
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>>93144990
The Elden Beast never supported any of the demigods. Going by how it behaves, it would probably have a kill-on-sight rule for any of Marika's brood.
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>>93145007
>>93145015
Radagan. Shit, so many fucking similar names.

Radagan attempts to stop you from getting the Elden Ring. When he dies, the Elden Beast pops out and also tries to stop you from getting the Elden Ring. Also, the whole time when it was there and not telling everyone that the Greater Will hated the Golden Order.
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>>93144961
The sword of Akasha isn't a literal sword, it's a platform in the collective conscious wich the evil emperor wanted to use to destroy the gods, wich in code geass means the concept of identity, I must search in the folders how the fiat backed version worked.
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>>93145014
No she isn't, its already stablished that she had free will and didn't follow its orders.

>>93145019
I mean with who is it going to communicate, assuming it even has the capacity to communicate, if its stuck in the tree? And as far as we know the elden beast is just a security trigger.
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>>93145014
Marika was never acting in conjunction with its will. Ever. Not even the Fingers were, and they were its direct emissaries and agents. Marika not only regularly acted against the Fingers, even torturing and dumping her half-brother in a barren shithole forever unless she specifically needed him since the Fingers programmed in a kill-command to have him murk her at their whim, but she also went ahead and shattered the Elden Ring to begin with, which is what caused the Greater Will to just give up on TLB. Marika also genocdied the shit out of countless beings that were directly blessed by the Greater Will itself, some even before her time, and rendered others into non-persons.

>>93145019
Radagon is simply attempting to repair and hold together what Marika broke. The Elden Beast uses him as a means of defending itself and to desperately keep things from completely breaking.

>Also, the whole time when it was there and not telling everyone that the Greater Will hated the Golden Order.
You're making the assumption that the Elden Beast was directly communicating with the boss or that it was even really aware of the shit Marika was up to. The Elden Beast IS the system of the Elden Ring proper, with the Fingers being the actual intermediaries you go to if you want word from the GW. They have assigned roles.
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Look, it's simple.

The Greater Will communicated with the Mother of Fingers, telling her to be good. It then stopped, causing her and all the Two Fingers to decide that everyone else needed to be killed and lie and claim that the Greater Will told them that, while still waiting for it to resume contact. The select Marika, a woman who is secretly working miracles that use only the healing part of the Greater Will instead of the order part, as their Empyrean champion. When Godfry, their Elden Lord, is too soft, they replace him with Radagan. They also create the wolf men to kill the Empyreans if they try to oppose the Golden Order. At some point in here, the Elden Beast, a second fallen star, shows up and decides to go along with the Two Fingers' heresy. Marika, who was in favor of the cruel Golden Order the whole time, suddenly decides to shatter it for no reason, while Radagan tries to stop her.

And that's why the Greater Will is completely blameless.
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>>93144873
>It only intervened when shit was severely out of control
So it clearly didn't have any problem with the genocides & crusades.
>which they didn't because the Fingers had their own goals in mind
What are you talking about? What goals? They were designed to communicate the GW's intentions. All they do within the game is in accordance with that, even with the GW gone.
>By the time the Shattering actually occurred, it was already gone.
So who imprisoned Marika within the Erdtree, then?
>>93144942
>I only mentioned them because you listed them among the persecuted races.
I'm not that anon that posted Ranni.
>Why couldn't they be blessed?
This isn't an argument. Also, they're a designed race, not made by the GW. I would not be surprised if it has some problems with that.
>Maybe he's neutral stupid pacifist.
Again, he clearly didn't seem to have a problem with the genocides.
Overall, I think the only reason the GW is the "good" god is because it designed the Lands Between entirely, and even then it's still alien in a lot of ways. It's good if you follow its rules, but if you don't, or worship some other god, or just aren't useful anymore (in the case of Godfrey), it legitimately doesn't give a shit about what happens to you.
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>>93144912
If I thought you would grow up to potentially cause the apocalypse, am I morally obligated to murder you right now?
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You get a chain, but first you have to relive your entire life up to this point and the psychological/emotional toll of anything bad that happened will be 100x worse.
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>>93145062
>So it clearly didn't have any problem with the genocides & crusades.
No, it obviously did. It was probably just relying on or expecting the Fingers to intercede to stop them...which they did not.

>What are you talking about? What goals? They were designed to communicate the GW's intentions.
It's explicitly spelt out that the Fingers weren't acting in line with its intent, in fact it's arguable if it even contacted them beyond initial communications to Metyr. The entire shit with Maliketh and others like him was engineered by the Fingers to kill off any demigods/Empyreans they couldn't control. It's why Marika treated Maliketh himself like shit.

>So who imprisoned Marika within the Erdtree, then?
Most likely the Elden Beast. We also know that Radagon was trying to FIX the Elden Ring, meaning he didn't agree with Marika's insanity so you could also attribute it to him keeping their shared body locked away.
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>>93145049
It communicates its desire to keep you from gaining control of the Elden Ring by murdering you.

>>93145051
Radagon is sitting in the Erdtree, not doing shit. He has no plan to repair the Elden Ring and is presumably so afraid of someone else getting control of it and messing things up even further that he tries to stop you when you show up.

>You're making the assumption that the Elden Beast was directly communicating with the boss
It came from space, but it also doesn't know what the Greater Will wants?

>or that it was even really aware of the shit Marika was up to
It's literally part of her body.

>The Elden Beast IS the system of the Elden Ring proper, with the Fingers being the actual intermediaries you go to if you want word from the GW. They have assigned roles.
The Greater Will made a security system for the system it hates and does not support? Or the Two Fingers made a non-malformed fallen star all on their own?
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>>93145087
I hit you with a sock full of fossilized mammoth poop.
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>>93145062
>(in the case of Godfrey)
Again, the entire situation with Godfrey was engineered by Marika mostly so she could have a secret army in her pocket in case things went to shit.
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Stop getting I to arguments about games you've never played, books and manga you've never read, and movies and shows you've never watched
People who do this shit don't get chains
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>>93145084
Yes, can you prove that I possess a flame that can burn the whole world? Retard lol
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>>93145101
To be fair with games like ER playing the game barely gives any indication of the lore. By the time I was on like 6 days of playing the game I still didn't actually have the "real" lore apparently. You understand the lore way better just by watching YouTube lore/theory videos. It's basically weeb FNaF.
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>>93145103
The Flame wasn't a problem during g the Hornsent reign though. And Hornsent are literally just humans touched by the Crucible, so a pogrom against them was unjustifiable. Revenge and overthrow of their government? Sure and if Marika stopped there things would be hunkydory. But going full on Nanking like she did had no benefits or justification that's morally reasonable
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>>93145095
>Radagon is sitting in the Erdtree, not doing shit. He has no plan to repair the Elden Ring
We are told in the base game's lore that Radagon was attempting to mend the Elden Ring after the Shattering.

>It came from space, but it also doesn't know what the Greater Will wants?
Not even the Fingers know what the Greater Will wants. They were given instructions initially, then it stopped communicating with them. Presumably because it assumed it didn't need to tell them anything else for them to do their jobs. In the Elden Beast's case, it clearly didn't need to be handheld like a fucking toddler unlike Metyr and her kids.

>It's literally part of her body.
What? No. That's not how the Elden Ring or Beast works.

>The Greater Will made a security system for the system it hates and does not support?
The "system" was never intended in the first place, merely the bestowal of blessings and miracles. Marika is the one who fashioned it into the Golden Order so she'd have a means to impose her genocidal regime.
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>>93145062
>This isn't an argument
Yes its an assumption, but saying that the greater will hates Albinaurics because they are an artificial race is also an assumption.

>Again, he clearly didn't seem to have a problem with the genocides.
Again, the The greater will seems to be neutral stupid pacifist. It also didn't intervene directly when Marika's people where stuffed into Jars, or when the giants attacked, or when dragons attacked, etc. Its either unwilling or unable to act if it isn't through miracles and healings, which would explain why he needs a god, a lord, and the Elden beast to do his biding.
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>>93144438
I did said "if the jump bring nothing to your chain".
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>>93145101
Good. Now Fate and Exalted talk is strictly banned forever.
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>>93145087
>pic
What a chad, getting a boner from attempting murder. Khornchads are winning again.

>and the psychological/emotional toll of anything bad that happened will be 100x worse.
Not gonna lie, I wouldn't even take it if it was x2.
Too much trauma for me.
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>>93145033 (me)
I've controlled and the version you buy in the jump allow you to arbitrarily kill a "god or deity of your choice" once per decade, bringing as example the chaos gods, Gaia or Alaya, and the only warning it gives you is the risk in cancelling such important things from existance.
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>>93145091
So is the GW just brain damaged then? Because you're making it sound really stupid & helpless anon. If it can't control its champion, can't control its intermediaries, and can't control its own fucking avatar, how did it even create the Lands Between in the first place?
>>93145099
Ah, ye. I was going off of the description of Godfrey's armor and assumed the GW took away his grace, but Marika was in control of grace then yeah?
I swear to fucking god, every time I remember something about the game's lore, there's like 3 items & 4 random conversations that I'm forgetting about that contradict it completely.
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>>93145133
>We are told in the base game's lore that Radagon was attempting to mend the Elden Ring after the Shattering.
Where? He doesn't seem physically capable of it, given that he's crucified and unmoving. Marika's Hammer says he tried to repair it DURING her destroying it, like in the trailer, not afterwords.

>Not even the Fingers know what the Greater Will wants.
The Greater Will abandoned the fingers' Mother. That's confirmed. It's not confirmed that it never communicated with anyone else ever again.

>In the Elden Beast's case, it clearly didn't need to be handheld like a fucking toddler unlike Metyr and her kids.
So what, the Elden Beast has been working against the Golden Order? Where? When?

>What? No. That's not how the Elden Ring or Beast works.
It seeps out of Radagon's body when he's killed.

>The "system" was never intended in the first place, merely the bestowal of blessings and miracles. Marika is the one who fashioned it into the Golden Order so she'd have a means to impose her genocidal regime.
How's she going to do that if the Elden Beast destroys the Elden Ring instead of protecting it?
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>>93143301
So with Tarnished we're immortal so long as we don't just give up on living?
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>>93145196
>So is the GW just brain damaged then?
More like incredibly naive and too trusting in basically everyone in its employ. Shard and some other anon equated it to the Gardener from Destiny and it's really easy to see why.
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>>93145202
Nta but:
>So what, the Elden Beast has been working against the Golden Order? Where? When?
How the fuck do you reach that conclusion? The Elden beast prerogative is protecting the ring, thats it, becoming a politician and tearing down the golden order is not in his portafolio
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>>93145202
>The Greater Will abandoned the fingers' Mother. That's confirmed. It's not confirmed that it never communicated with anyone else ever again.
The Fingers were its means of communicating its intent and will to the Lands Between. I don't think we're ever given any examples of it engaging in communication outside of them.

>So what, the Elden Beast has been working against the Golden Order?
No, I'm saying that the Elden Beast is simply fulfilling its purpose as the embodiment of the Elden Ring and a security system for it. It's the Fingers who are coming up with convoluted schemes to get themselves back in their boss' good graces.

>It seeps out of Radagon's body when he's killed.
True enough. But we don't know if that's something it naturally does simply because there's no mention made of it physically incarnating and sharing room in Marika/Radagon's body outside of that scene.
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>>93145205
But again, it created the Lands Between. It's a god. It should have been able to do literally anything prior to leaving to reign in those beneath it.
It literally feels like the GW glanced away from the Lands Between, came back to find everyone suffering, and then just threw its hands up, said "I don't want to deal with this", and then left.
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>>93145087
nah, you can shove your chain up your ass. I have enough Trauma. After going through that I don't know what I would unleash upon the multiverse but I have a pretty good guess it wouldn't be good.
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>>93145196
>So is the GW just brain damaged then?
It's an eldritch thing, that mean everything.
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>>93145219
Why did the Greater Will create a "living incarnation of the concept of Order" as its "vassal beast", then send it to protect the ring that Marika/Radagon/the Two Fingers are using to oppress the world? According to you, Order is something the Greater Will doesn't support.

>>93145228
>the Elden Beast is simply fulfilling its purpose as the embodiment of the Elden Ring and a security system for it.
Why and how did the Greater Will create an embodiment of and security system for a thing which it doesn't like, all while being unable to communicate its will on any matter to anyone?

>It's the Fingers who are coming up with convoluted schemes to get themselves back in their boss' good graces.
Weird how after all those messages of peace and love they decided that the best way to please their boss is mass murder.
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>>93145244
That's what he does, yes. The greater will is either too alien to comprehend the reason of why it does what it does, or lazy, or uninterested, or too pacifistic, or literally unable to affect the world directly
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>>93145244
>It should have been able to do literally anything prior to leaving to reign in those beneath it.
Its last response to dealing with bullshit was nuking the Eternal Cities. I think that it probably didn't intervene because its only way to reliably do so would kill everyone and everything. Which is why it uses proxies and intermediaries. Problems naturally arise when those proxies and intermediaries decide to spite it out of either retardation or because they're literally insane.
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>>93145262
>>93145274
Alright, cool! So calling it a blameless benevolent being is wrong.
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>>93145268
>Why and how did the Greater Will create an embodiment of and security system for a thing which it doesn't like, all while being unable to communicate its will on any matter to anyone?
The Golden Order =/= The Elden Ring. That's what you're not getting. The former is Marika's regime from manipulating the Elden Ring by virtue of being thr chosen Empyrean. The latter is the means by which the Greater Will is enabling its miracles and blessings to be spread.

>Weird how after all those messages of peace and love they decided that the best way to please their boss is mass murder.
The Fingers are retarded, like straight up. So much of the plot comes down to them being total assholes doing everything in their power to fuck over everyone because they think that's the only way the GW will start paying attention to them again.
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>>93145282
>I think that it probably didn't intervene because its only way to reliably do so would kill everyone and everything. Which is why it uses proxies and intermediaries.
Could it not just pick/create other, better proxies & intermediaries to correct course?
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>Ranni can one-shot the player
>Ranni needs a special weapon from the underdark so she can kill an individual set of fingers
>The player can kill the mother of all fingers with a level 1 toothpick
How does this work in the lore?
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>>93145309
That sounds like it would then cause a civil war as the proxies would start fighting each other over how their instructions are correct and the other is wrong.
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>>93145300
>The Golden Order =/= The Elden Ring. That's what you're not getting. The former is Marika's regime from manipulating the Elden Ring by virtue of being thr chosen Empyrean. The latter is the means by which the Greater Will is enabling its miracles and blessings to be spread.
Remember how Marika used to practice secret miracles of gold without Order? Remember how she lead a conspiracy to destroy the Order, only to be almost stopped by Radagon, "leal hound of the Golden Order"? Sure was convenient that there was a bunch of contingencies in place in case Marika went rogue. Almost like someone was really, really, concerned about Empyreans defying the Golden Order which Marika herself made up. Almost like Marika was a pawn to some kind of greater power, finally figuring out a way to screw it over during the Shattering.

>The Fingers are retarded, like straight up. So much of the plot comes down to them being total assholes doing everything in their power to fuck over everyone because they think that's the only way the GW will start paying attention to them again.
And there's absolutely no chance that the Two Fingers aren't just smart and actually obeying orders, because the Greater Will no longer talks to their mom.
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>>93145286
Honestly, yeah. Saying it's dindu is a big wrong. But it's an eldritch that can't comprehend shit, if the Frenzy Flame was summoned to destroy the world just because of the despait of a tribe of people, and can't understand why the majority of people wouldn't want that, AND see itself as in the right because of the whole One Great thing...
...Well this should tell you a lot of things about them.

>>93145322
Fingers hards.
Mother of Fingers soft.
And I'm being serious. The finger look like they are made from some sort of magical wood, which they probably are, while the Mother of Finger look it's made of something very fleshy and squishy.
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>>93145322
The game's basic assumption isn't that you're doing a level 1 stick only naked challenge run. It assumes you're playing the game by leveling up, getting progressively better gear and skills, and actually becoming a genuine force of nature through skill, might, and legendary equipment.
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>>93145268
First, you are assuming order LE BAD. Second, you're assuming the elden ring is inherently evil. The elden beast is meant to protect the ring, that's it. What Marika/Radagon/the fingers do with it is no concern of the beast.
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>>93145309
Most of the Outer Gods seem to only be able to select one champion and sets of intermediaries/proxies at a time, and often they don't even get the latter. Of all the Outer Gods sans the GW, only the Frenzied Flame ever had both a champion (Shabriri) and proxies (the Three Fingers), and can end up getting a third as its Elden Lord rep if someone is stupid enough to become the Lord of Frenzy. Everyone else only gets one or two (Rannia and her mom for the Moons, Malenia for the Scarlet Rot, Mohg for the Formless Mother, the Deathbirds and Maliketh for Destined Death, the Fire Giant for the Fire God, etc). If any of these representatives die, then it's IMMENSELY difficult for the Outer God in question to get a new one.
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>>93145087
Sometimes you can see the gap between people who have no idea what trauma looks like and those who just know it as a word.
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What jump will let me give Ranni a better body, not just a new human body but a fully functional version of her puppet body?
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>>93145340
>Almost like someone was really, really, concerned about Empyreans defying the Golden Order which Marika herself made up. Almost like Marika was a pawn to some kind of greater power, finally figuring out a way to screw it over during the Shattering.
Yes, Marika was a pawn to the Fingers. This is known. This is the entire reason why Maliketh was designed with a switch they could flip at will to have him kill her whenever.
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>>93145356
Your either/or doesn't seem to leave any room for people who actually know what trauma is.
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>>93145340
>really, really, concerned about Empyreans defying the Golden Order
Yes, the fingers. The greater will has been influencing the lands between for a long time, we even see its previous lord Placidusax, there was no golden order there, it only came about during Marika's reign. If you're implying that the greater will came up with it then why implement it during Marika's rule?
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>>93145363
Presumably, the only reason she don't do it in game is because she has not time for it, or doesn't want to.

In other words, make her a cuckqueen.
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>>93145382
Because Placidusax wasn't working for the Greater Will. Any Outer God can get their champion into the position of Elden Lord, then do whatever kind of weird eldritch fuckery they're fighting over. It's why the moon/frenzied flame need you to go through the normal process for ending the game, in order for you to become Elden Lord.
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>>93145363
Get Idle Transfiguration from JJK.
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>>93145374
Yeah, I got caught up in writing words and didn't check to see if they made sense.
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>>93145402
Anon, the age of the crucible and age of dragons (which might have been the same age) where sponsored by the Greater Will. Before the Erdtree there was crucible, which only changed when Marika installed the golden order.
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>>93145428
>the age of the crucible and age of dragons (which might have been the same age) where sponsored by the Greater Will
Citation needed.
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>>93145391
I imagine the Ranni would react poorly to that, very poorly given what happened with Radagon.
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How would Ranni react to being put in a new doll body that was pleasure hypersensitive, hyperfertile, fully sexually functional, and had far higher baseline arousal than average?
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Thoughts on turkey "burgers"?
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>>93145464
Do it Anon, make it clear you are a manwhore and tempt her with the joy of sex by doing it with other women while she can hear it!

>very poorly given what happened with Radagon.
Blamed by the Elden Beast for Marika's fuck up?
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>>93141448
I'm not currently planning on offering the drug itself, but there is a 400 cp perk based on the girl who made it.

That said, the trap is in overusing it due to how the magic system works. A small dose, even as is, should be fine.
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I'm going to be honest, taking over the academy and hanging out with Ranni's stinky mom in between reading books sounds better then dealing with all that bullshit.
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Would Ranni lactate blue milk?
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>>93145481
Better than vegan burgers, not as good as beef, bison, duck, or elk
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>>93145481
Doner Kebap is indeed quite tasty.
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>>93145484
Would she feel cucked if you let a man pound your bussy?
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>>93143045
The MC buys a planet in Going Native I believe.
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>>93145507
Duck?
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>>93144876
There is cut content and some lore still in the game suggesting that Marika stripping Godfrey of his grace and sending him and tarnished army was part of her plan to get rid of the Elden beast, she needed warriors completely independent from the Golden order for the moment she finally rebelled. The game would have actually started by you meeting Godfrey and him saying that the time to return to Marika and start the next part of their plan is finally at hand. Marika and Godfrey were always working together.

She did not send him away because she betrayed him, she sent him away because she believed he was Chad enough to overcome all obstacles, defeat the Elden beast and save her, and he almost did it, if not for us killing him.
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>>93145517
>Oh Gods why
>he's riding my brother
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>>93145531
>Get banished
>Some Rando: And I took that personally
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>>93145531
nta but that's one of the only cut contents I can take seriously.

And it make Godfrey even more of a chad, and Marika less of a retard, so it's a winwinwin.
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>>93145519
Technically he gets one as a gift for one of his first victories IIRC. That planet being Earth incidentially.
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>>93141448
>>93145493
There is so much to offer in JK Exorcist, it's insane.
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>>93141493
This is the kegare of nankin cursing them.

or something
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>>93145556
Fan is very good at killing off his girls in new and exciting ways.
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>>93145530
Very fatty and tasty meat. Mixed with bison and the Two balance eachotehr out really well
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>>93145551
And then he shows up and immediately throws a fit going into an autistic rage when the natives say that's bullshit.
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>>93145567
And making them sextoys, but the killing part is unexpectedly fun.
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>>93145582
What did you expect from the same idiot who flat out rejected his human side/previous life experience.
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>>93145442
Anon, Placidusax was explicitly called an Elden Lord (a title only reserved for people working for GW because you know, they use the ELDEN Ring), breathes Gold, and all true dragons are golden underneath.
Lord of the frenzied flame is not named elden lord, so If he wasn't working for GW he would be called something else.
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>>93145582
I'd be mad too if my boss gave me a house as a form of payment and then a bunch of hobos were squatting in it.
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>>93141225
No.
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>>93145602
>Placidusax was explicitly called an Elden Lord (a title only reserved for people working for GW because you know, they use the ELDEN Ring)
You're making this up. The Elden Ring is named after the Elden Lord, because the Elden Lord existed before the Ring.

Also, really weird how the Two Fingers were able to turn everyone against the Greater Will's divinely appointed king, huh? Add "all of humanity" to the list of big dumb dumbs who think the Greater Will approves of violent conquest, I guess.
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>>93145601
>Get all the metalknowledge from someone who witnessed all this and knows what I may be facing?
>No way fag, I'll do this all on my own despite the fact that I'd be a literal nobody so weak I'd get ejected into space for being an embarrassment otherwise
That shit still pisses me off to no end. I've never continued reading a story after something like that pisses me off, but the fact that Tarble kept suffering made it worthwhile.
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>>93145595
That reminds me, I need to nag ricrod to write me a companion option for the bocchi crew.
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>>93145612
What would megumin do if she gained access to a new power or system that didn't interact with Explosion at all? Would she just ignore it since it doesn't help with Explosion or would it make her sad to have gained something that is not Explosion related?
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Since we're talking about how retarded Gone Native got, can we talk about how forced and annoying that Tarble and Raven shit was?
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>>93145620
>The Elden Ring is named after the Elden Lord
Citation needed

>Also, really weird how the Two Fingers were able to turn everyone against the Greater Will's divinely appointed king, huh?
No they didn't. The only one they where able to turn is Radagon, everyone else doesn't know what's going on and are just making assumptions or bids for power. And its explicitly said that the fingers are no longer in contact with him, which mean they are making shit up.
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>>93145087
Go fuck yourself.
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>>93145626
I remember him being amazed at the Hellbat suits during his fight with the JL.
Bitch, if you had kept your human knowledge you would know SO MUCH BULLSHIT about DC Earth.
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Should I include a 0cp drawback in Redo where you start on Keyaru's first time around instead of on his redo (of healer)?
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>>93145648
Would that have much of an impact if you just avoid the cancerous heroes and their specific kingdom?
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>>93145087
I'll take it.
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>>93145628
What Bocchi Crew?
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>>93145648
Add another tier that gives CP where you have to protect his innocence and bussy.
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>>93145641
>Despite being broken and abandoned, SHE kept waiting for another message to come.
I only see it saying that one particular person, the mother, was abandoned. Almost like the Greater Will had a new receiver for its messages, like her Two Finger children for example, to replace her.
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>>93145648
You should include a drawback similar to this:
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/93073796/#93077208
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>>93145658
Fan put the bochi girls in one of the jk doujins. Why? Who knows. But they cute, so naturally they died horrifically.
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>>93145645
I hope that somewhere in his subconscious, the original dude from Earth is chilling laughing at his retarded ass and going, "yeah I could have told you that idiot"
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>>93145640
I liked em.
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>>93145665
Anon, even before the dlc we knew the fingers where making shit up, the dlc is only putting more proof.
>Almost like the Greater Will had a new receiver for its messages
You are making a massive assumption. Its almost like you're hellbent on thinking GW is this secretly evil overgod that trained Marika wrong, as prank.
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>>93145612
Yeah but if you dick Aqua she can't do shit, so she is useless.
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>>93145654
Keyaru wouldn't be around going schizo.
>>93145660
>>93145670
I was considering a drawback where you're now Keyaru and also a drawback where you've been traumatized to the point of insanity.
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>>93145708
uuuu
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So are those robot girls in Atomic Heart actually fuckable? I know the vending machine is down to clown but I can't remember if the Ballerina bots are. Also which other jumps have fully "equipped" sexbots?
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>>93145648
Please add a drawback where nothing changes, except that people now constantly call Keyaru the Bussy Hero.
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>>93145648
Sure. I'm just on board for the ridiculous biomancy powers.
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>>93145648
Go for it.
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>>93145716
The ballerina bots are explicitly fuckable, the ones in the theatre get used by politicians and other high ranking Soviet officials despite it being looked down upon.
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>>93145708
Just introduce Aqua and Eris to anal. There you go, problem solved.
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>>93145716
If you're going to fuck a bot, best bet is 2B and her sisters. Dodge the commie bots.
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>>93145626
Yeah Tarble really lives to the frieza stereotype of a saiyan and deserves nothing but beatings and to die. He is really no different then the rest of the fodder only being weirdly lucky saves his dumb ass.
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>>93145708
I though this was the author shitposting on twitter, but in the LN Aqua does say she can block her holy powers temporarily by thinking dirty thoughts. So she will probably lose her power if she gets fucked.
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>>93145734
Awesome, thanks anon.
>>93145740
While I do like 2B she isn't robot looking enough for my current chain.
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>>93145707
The Two Fingers need a lot of time to "make up" that message from the Greater Will when you find out you can't enter the Erdtree. The Greater Will is hellbent on controlling the position of Elden Lord, like all Outer Gods, for reasons unknown. It's more tyrannical than the dragons', but still better than most other Outer Gods. It did not "train Marika wrong." It did everything in its power to control her, then she tried to betray it eventually, only for Ranni to betray her in turn. The Greater Will still manages to hold onto control of the position of Elden Lord despite this in most endings, though.
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>>93145620
Are you retarded? This is literally states in-game.
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>>93145725
>>93145730
Noted. It will be included by popular approval
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>>93145681
Damn.

That man cooks.
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>>93145744
He's like a Xianxia protagonist. All of his success is thanks to luck but he'll definitely cry about how he suffered and worked hard to get where he got every 6 chapters.
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>>93145681
>Fan put the bochi girls in one of the jk doujins
muh dick
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>>93145786
>Do of Healer
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>>93145707
NTA, the greater will didn't train marika wrong, the greater will wanted everything marika did except for shattering the ring
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>>93145681
Looks like a group companion rescue. After they been enhanced a bit.
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>>93145740
>Dodge the commie bots.
They are cute though.
https://youtu.be/PJyfCeAOAxs
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>>93145795
A nepo baby so retarded they don’t know they are one is universal in wanting to beat the shit out of them the ungrateful fuckwits, the only reason they are so popular in Xianxia is china men wanting to be one.
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>>93145819
They're commies and they deserve nothing good.
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>>93145811
I will DESTROY the Great Will, because any overpowered cosmic that isn't me, is EVIL and DESERVES PUNISHMENT.

Then I'll go back to raping women.
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>>93145757
>The Two Fingers need a lot of time to "make up" that message from the Greater Will when you find out you can't enter the Erdtree
Yes, because they can't communicate so they lied through their teeth all this time about being ordered by GW. None of the fingers can communicate with it.

>The Greater Will is hellbent on controlling the position of Elden Lord
No it isn't. It literally fucked off for milk when Marika started going schizo, and it allows the lords to modify the ring however they please as long as they don't break it. Doesn't seem like a tyrannical god, more like a deadbeat dad.

Aldo:
>It's more tyrannical than the dragons',
The dragons sponsor IS the greater will. We can see the elden ring when Placidusax ruled in farum azula.
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>>93145828
I respect Chinese men because they admit their ultimate fantasy is to be a nepobaby who pretends to be a poor farmer for the sake of killing and robbing rich people.
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>>93145803
I will now name it that.
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>>93145681
>they died horrifically
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>>93144544
Put Tet in charge of the world.
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>>93145829
Communism > Capitalism
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>>93145708
She's useless to begin with. If im taking her with me I'll have better divine powers to replace her old ones.
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>>93144466
They still have meetings.
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>>93144544
None of this would have happened if I, Jumper, was president. Vote for me, and I shall make the Lands Between great again. Or for the first time, because it has always sucked ass.
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>>93145853
>Yes, because they can't communicate so they lied through their teeth all this time about being ordered by GW. None of the fingers can communicate with it.
And they decided that murdering the GW's divinely ordained king was the best way to get back in its graces? Wow, they're really stupid.

>No it isn't. It literally fucked off for milk when Marika started going schizo
Taking only a brief break to create a new fallen star to protect the Elden Ring. Or I guess that always existed and believed the Two Fingers when they told it that it shouldn't help the current Elden Lord defend the Ring from Godfry?
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>>93145519
He alongside Bardock's Crew invade a Planet and genocide it's population, starting a war against an enormous intergalactic Empire(the Reach from DC), as reward every one of them gets a free pick of a planet owned by Frieza.
Later Frieza rewards the MC with the privilege to get ownership over any planet he conquers(and wipes out the population) during the war, which ends up being like thousands of planets.

Funnily enough, despite the MC literally being responsible for murdering Trillions of lives(also he had a witch create a spell that destroys souls, which ended up wiping out tens of billions), it takes the author a long ass time for the Author to get that the MC doing so is actually something evil, and that "wanting to end the war as fast as possible" ain't some sign of neutrality.
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>>93145636
she'd probably use it after she's out of mana for explosion, but would never consider training and expanding it by itself.
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>>93145601
It wasn't just rejection. He basically entirely forget he ever WAS human. It's why he has so much difficulty relating to anyone on Earth later.
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>>93145903
>Wow, they're really stupid.
I mean, yeah, that's why the world is soo shit.

>Taking only a brief break to create a new fallen star to protect the Elden Ring. Or I guess that always existed and believed the Two Fingers when they told it that it shouldn't help the current Elden Lord defend the Ring from Godfry?
You're just making shit up at this point. And I can't tell what you meant by this
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>>93141076
>You could die thrice and life thrice more
live
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>>93145925
nta, but he later remembered though it was vague, and then at some point went on some spiritual journey where he confronted his human side and killed it.
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>>93145912
Actual canon (well not actual canon but the special, which was the good version) Bardock is better than this. Dude tried to stop Frieza. That's the common sense end goal. It's not even hard, just invent the kiensan and solar flare and his whole bloodline is finished.
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>>93145875
tbf so does everyone else in that world.
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>>93145889
In the newest season of Konosuba, Aqua solves the big conflict in five seconds by breaking the super demon curse that was put on Darkness' dad. And the only reason she didn't do it sooner was 'cause Kazuma hadn't brought her there sooner.

She is super useful as long as you're willing to tard wrangle her, because she can do stuff like:

>Break pretty much any curse ever.
>Heal pretty much anything ever.
>Revive people.
>Smite super powerful evil creatures.
>Almost mind control people with her party tricks.
>Buff you to meme isekai protagonist levels.
>Make enough water to flood a city.
>Has infinite mana.
>Make cheats.
>Create super powerful beasts by filling them with mana before they're born.

And probably more that I'm forgetting.
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>>93145807
The Greater Will approved of none of that. Stop parroting this shit.
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>>93145939
He can't do that because he mulched all of the metalknowledge alongside with the original reincarnator so he could feel better about being the biggest jobber in a family of jobbers.
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>>93145926
Yeah, I stopped trying to reason with this guy after it was clear he was just making up nonsense to get mad over. Nothing gets through to him.
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>>93145942
Absolutely not. The truth is out there, you must educate yourself and stop being a GW apologist.
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>>93145939
Bardock wiped out a species without any qualms in the Episode of Bardock special, he only turned against Frieza, after the last survivor of the aliens he fought imbued him with visions of the future, which includes seeing Frieza wipe out the Saiyans, and also because Freiza sends his own men to wipe out Saiyan's that are off planet like Bardock's crew, who all die other than him.
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>>93145956
>t. Marika
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>>93145941
This. You just have to think of her less as a person and more as a tool/weapon.
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>>93145626
If you’re going to write a story in which the main character has metaknowledge but never uses it and even gets rid of it, why would you write an SI in the first place?
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>>93145884
It's funny how I want to get mad at this fucker for enforcing game rules on absolutely everything, and yet, the series makes it abundantly clear that everyone is such fucking ridiculous murderhobos that would murder themselves into actual extinction that Tet is the only one even remotely preventing that outcome in the only way he knows how.
That world doesn't even deserve Tet. It deserves much worse.
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>>93145926
According to your headcanon, the Elden Beast was created purely to protect the Elden Ring. Presumably it was sent before the GW cut off contact with the Two Fingers, which must have been during Paludusic's reign. This is because otherwise it could have easily sent a scroll along with the Elden Beast stating that the Two Fingers are wrong. So for some reason the Elden Beast must have just stood back and let Godfry steal the ring from Paludusic, even though it will try to stop you in the game from taking the Ring even to repair it.
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>>93145912
The fucking Earth arc was so retarded with the protagonist dick sucking that I had to drop it.

>Geez, why don't you guys accept being part of my crazy monkey empire, I'm the good guy. Please keep telling the audience I'm misunderstood, Raven :(
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>>93145959
I know why he did it and that he's evil, I'm just saying he wasn't looking at that and going "Man, I need to figure out how to suck up to Frieza so he doesn't wipe us out!" Dude stood on business with his tiny power level.
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>>93145968
>This is because otherwise it could have easily sent a scroll along with the Elden Beast stating that the Two Fingers are wrong.
That is not its job.
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>>93145968
Because the Elden Beast and by extension the Greater Will both want the Ring to stay broken
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Most OP lewd jump?
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>>93145978
So the Greater Will is incapable of conceiving of the idea of a single creature serving more than one purpose, even temporarily?

>>93145982
This contradicts anon's previous assertion that the Elden Beast exists solely to protect the ring.
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>>93145967
>that would murder themselves into actual extinction
To be fair, weren’t the other gods the same way?
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>>93145992
No it doesn't. The Elden Beast exists to protect the ring, and that extends to making sure it stays broken when the Greater Will wants the ring broken.
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>>93145939
>>93145974
As someone who made a DBZ jump, your opinions are very relevant and trip-worthy.
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>>93145965
Yeah, and I'm not even joking, she is literally the cheat Kazuma chose. Just think of her as a hard to wield, but op weapon.
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>>93145988
Victim Girls, or Master PC.
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>>93145988
Monster girl encyclopedia
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>>93145988
As always, Val's stuff is a safe bet.
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>>93146014
Nta but name 'em then.
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>>93145988
Most likely its Naruto's Gay Breeding Foundation on QQ.
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>>93145988
Generic Gohanposting has a perk that makes you godlike at blowjobs, so probably that one.
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>>93145968
1- Yes, the Elden Beast is old as fuck
2- Placidusax lost his title of Elden Lord when his God disappeared (we don't know how or where it just went poof)
3- The Elden ring was given to Marika when she ascended to godhood. She's the replacement of the dragon god/goddess.
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>>93145988
Probably Val's Fate India (?) jump, or whichever had the heavens hole stuff in it.
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>>93146018
Is that a new one? Link?
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>>93146018
Sounds based, but unfortunately I don't think there's a jump for it.
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>>93145493
yeah but if you don't overuse it then you don't get mega titties.
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>>93146022
I know, but anon insists that Placidusax had the Elden Ring and that the Elden Beast couldn't have carried a message from the Greater Will because it arrived before it turned its back on the Two Fingers, meaning that the Elden Beast must have (in his headcanon) been protecting the Ring when Godfry took over as Elden Lord. That doesn't make sense, so he has to ignore the issue and shitpost.
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>>93146017
Victim Girls gets spammed enough to need no introduction.
Hypno App Fantasia has the eponymous App.
Fate/India has Myriad Flesh among others.
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Man with a gun unironically solos anything in Elden Ring that isn't the demigods and above btw.
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>>93145648
Yes
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>>93145988
Seconding MGE.
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>>93146053
Dumbass im the anon you originally responded. Yes, Placidusax had the ring. Yes, the greater will was more active in those days. No, Godfrey didn't need to fight Placidusax or the Elden Beast because by that time Placi already lost the title, Marika and Godfrey are the replacements.
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>>93145912
In fairness the Reach deserves to be genocided.
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>>93141313
Based
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>>93146018
>>93146044
Link?
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>>93146002
>To be fair, weren’t the other gods the same way?
The whole mess started with the gods vying for the position of supreme deity amongst themselves, with most species just being the soldiers created by them to wage war. The only exception is of humanity, who are the only naturally evolved species aside from the gods, which is why they can't use magic and struggle just to survive while the gods blast each other apart.
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>>93145967
Dude's a saint when you see the alternative.
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>>93146053
nta but Placidusax's remembrance says
>The Dragonlord whose seat lies at the heart of the storm beyond time is said to have been Elden Lord in the age before the Erdtree. Once his god was fled, the lord continued to await its return.
Placi is unambiguously the Elden Lord of an older era, and the Elden Ring is displayed prominently in iconography of Farum Azula
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>>93146093
the coreworld did, not the planets they enslaved.
They probably killed only like a double digit number of reach natives at most during the war.
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>>93146058
>Victim Girls gets spammed enough to need no introduction.
>Hypno App Fantasia has the eponymous App.
Did Val have based or shit taste in doujins?
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>>93146121
She has basic taste, sure.
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>>93145940
nta but it seems like JK exorcist is similar to taimanin in that all the bad ends we see aren't actually canon. Nanako for example, haughty blond twintails girl, has like half a dozen mutually exclusive bad ends so far and there's plenty of other girls that have similarly had multiple different bad ends. What, if anything, actually happens is up in the air.
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>>93146141
The whole bad endings are not canon makes sense in Taimanin, since they usually lose to sudden bouts of being retarded, but isn't the JK power system literally working against the good guys?
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>>93146121
Pretty vanilla tastes compared to most porn addicts nowadays. Lots of men can't even get hard unless they see the woman screaming or beaten to near death.
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>>93146140
>>93146160
You shouldn't consider yourself the average viewer anon(s).
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>>93146121
Well she also made Shindol's Emergence/Metamorphosis so I guess she was at least consistent in her taste?
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We will no longer be accepting jumps for anime/manga/LN/VN IPs until January 1st, 2025.
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>>93146121
Shit taste, because I can't get hard to stuff like Amputation, and VG has way too much of it.
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>>93146173
Stop talking about yourself in the plural, Timmy.
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>>93146173
You forgot to cut off videogames that are actually just anime, like Pokémon and Elden Ring.
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>>93146166
People have conducted studies on how increasing populations of males, especially younger males, are becoming increasingly addicted to extreme pornography. It's not really a new thing. Social media also helps accelerate the objectification of other humans.
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>>93146191
We need more Human X Furry jumps or hell just more furry jumps in general. 9Anon should just make those types of jumps, make it his niche since he's the only name fag based enough to do so.
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>>93146192
Is it because of porn or because women are becoming shittier and more entitled and more people want to see them put in their place?
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>>93145681
>bocchi now available in 2 brutal QQ jumps
>not even a tangentially relevant generic to get an anime band together
I suppose it cuts out the extra steps of working up to lewds, but not so great if you actually wanted the vacation.

>>93145481
Nostalgic to a certain degree. Still rather have a beef burger of similar quality, but the memory reminds me that it's easily been a decade and some change since I've cooked anything with ground turkey and I miss that in a "meat is meat" kind of way.
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>>93146192
Normal people's views on extreme pornography is stuff like Incest, Rape, etc... Not Torture, Gore, etc...

Sorry bro, you are not normal.
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>>93146207
The problem is that lots of furry stuff is forever unfinished.
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>>93146215
Just make an expy in K-On!
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>>93146212
Porn. 100 percent because of porn.
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>>93146212
The former, the latter only exists to losers like (You).
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let's say you are given a magickal object, small enough to easily conceal in your hand. it has the power to transform into any weapon it has previously touched. it generates infinite phantom copies of ammunition for itself, with expended material evaporating into nothing over time. the only limits are that the weapon must be operable by yourself alone, and it cannot duplicate purely magickal effects on its own.
what cool shit are you gonna copy with it, from where?
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>>93146224
We have plenty of jumps based on unfinished properties.
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>>93146229
Nah women are down bad. It's just the dudes are too. The sexual revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
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>>93146230
The viral gun from Terra Hypoglycemia, of course!
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>>93146192
>He thinks extreme pornography is that
Who is gonna tell him?
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So what did we learn today?
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>>93146234
Perhaps but I never really found a good property that might work well as a jump.
But let's hear it. What furry settings would you like a jump for anon?
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>>93146219
Torture has been normalized through bdsm for a long time. Gore is generally faked and people know it but still get aroused by it regardless. If you still think things like incest and rape are extreme then you are extremely out of tune with modern porn culture. Rape is pretty vanilla nowadays and incest is very common premise in both the East and the West. There are many popular studios that made a name for themselves off of these premises and a lot of big name pornstars like Angela White who is vanilla as fuck have made dozens of scenes in it. If you're into JAV you should know how common it is too, studios like attackers and madonna have whole series of it that they pump out on repeat.
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>>93146230
i was thinking the Destinyverse seemed an obvious enough stop, to begin with. lotta cool guns there, even before getting into the magickal bs. Outbreak Perfected, sleeper simulant, stuff like that.
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>>93146256
Yes, as you said. Stuff that used to be extreme is now considered vanilla. Thank you for agreeing with me.
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>>93146192
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>>93146256
You sound like one of those SJWs who think "teh male gaze" is promoting rape culture.
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>>93146237
Nope. It's just porn. Once people got exposed to ahegaos and dark romance books they could never again go back. Doesn't help that 99% of porn categories and titles are some blatant freakshit some people have been getting conditioned with for basically their entire adult lives.
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Y'all say this but in my experience I've gotten more vanilla and lovey-dovey with age. As a 13 year old I was into weird shit like monsters growing inside women and eating them alive, but now I can't stand that stuff.
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Nice thread, OP! But is there a Jumper that can defeat Terra Hypochondriac Viralborgians? And im not talking about Terra Hippotalamo Viralborgians with the reality corroding Necrium (able to infect and assimilate every type of energy ever formed in existence and non-existence). Im not talking about Terra Hypnotica Viralborgians with a megamacrouniversal empire (wich is as vast as a succession of infinities). No, im not talking about Terra Expactica Viralborgians with 99+ Necriums worth of Cardinalities and able to resist the alteration or manipulation of Fluxiom and any other entity or energy. Hell, im not even talking about Terra Hysterectocomica Viralborgians with transcendence over the time/space continuum of infinities (even seeping through multiple omniverses at once), intuitively wielding every cardinality conseveived (imaginary or otherwise) and generating infinite Necrium to achieve feats of infinite scale. Im ALSO not talking about Terra Hypogogonica Viralborgians with excess Necrium energy stored on ALL other dimensions that are comparable in size to Onigeria (which contains multiple infinities by the way), being lead by [The Divine Mother Figure That Encompasses All Of Non-Non-Existance] which posseces an unfathomable number of Omnipotences, Omnipresences and Omnicients. I'm talking about Terra Hippogrifftica Viralborgians puppeting The Hadōshin, The Outer Gods, The Anti Spiral, Ākitaipu: Āsu, The Presence, Void Shiki, The Great Darkness, The One Above All, Kult Humans, The Excrucians, Full Power Reiō, Zen'ō, The Golden Goddesses, Shao Feng: The Unorthodox Master That Sits Atop Heaven, Eru Ilúvatar, The Truth, Kami Tenchi, The Triumvirate, YHVH, The Weaver, The Chaos Gods, Unicron, Batman (Meds Not Taken), Canopus Field, Mem Aleph, Ushiromiya Batora, AO, The Lady Of Pain, Cloud Of Darkness, The Idea Of Evil, Horakhty, The Writer, The Scarlet King, Alien X, and The Yozis by submerging all of them in pure Necrium?
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>>93146141
>>93146153
I'm of two minds on this phenomenon. The first, accounting for my take on the in-universe timeline, is that it's an artifact from Rehost and Hypnoapp. Specifically, that the entire setting is still technically running on mmo logic in the background, so whenever a named girl dies off the system just spawns in a new version of her because she's listed as an npc or something.

A more simplistic explaination would just be alternate timelines, and based on the fact that most of these girls get shown dying once a season/book and then mysteriously reappear later, is that each season is an alternate timeline.
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>>93146271
>with for basically their entire adult lives.
Are you really trying to pretend porn viewing starts at adulthood? Especially nowadays, where every teenager has a phone with a web connection?
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>>93146267
There is no such thing as rape culture. Only idiots bring that up. Are there people who rape others in real life? That doesn't mean there is a culture of rape. In the first place if people don't want to be raped, then they should be prepared to defend themselves at all times, not expect others to change for them.
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>>93146279
When I was 13 years old I was jerking to a big tittied anime girl with glasses (I do not remember who), nowadays... I still think shit like vore is disgusting.

Admittedly I've gotten pretty used to incest, rape and even loli stuff. Though I can jerk to vanilla just fine too.
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>>93146288
I invoke nah I'd win and therefore I win.
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Maybe I judged succbox anon too harshly.
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>>93146297
This is true. And since I'm always prepared, a woman has never even tried to rape me.

:(
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>>93146311
Do you finally understand why I must subject all anons to the succbox and extract every last sexual thought from their minds, bodies, and souls before sending them on a chain?
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>>93146296
Even in early middle school kids were already boasting about watching porn on the school network and this was over two decades back before OnlyFans and sex streamers were popular. Anyone who seriously thinks that people only start porn when they are adults is truly out of touch. Hell young girls barely 10 are already learning from people like sexxxyred who advocate preteen pregnancy.
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>>93146301
When I was 13 years old I was jerking to a big tittied anime girl without glasses (I do not remember who), nowadays... I still think shit like glasses are disgusting.
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>>93146230
Would stuff like the Omnitrix or a power ring count as a wepaon?
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>>93146256
Anon please go outside. Outside of incest (which is getting pretty popular honestly given the amount of "step-" incest stuff), rape is still nowhere near vanilla and most people are REALLY not aroused by gore, what the fuck?
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>>93146297
>There is no such thing as rape culture
NTA, to play devil's advocate, what about pillories? 'Rape culture' may not exist in the sense that people mean when they talk about it on Xitter, but the legacy of people like Genghis Khan who fucked the women of every people he conquered doesn't just evaporate into nothing
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>>93146341
>Would stuff like the Omnitrix...count as a weapon?
Azmuth would argue no, and start screaming and never stop if it ended up counting as a weapon.
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>>93146317
It wouldn't even work, it's why no one will get a chain. Only people who have moved beyond these base desires would ever have the opportunity, and those people would realize how futile and wasteful it would be to spread the chain to others. The idea of a Pact just increases the odds that some degenerate starts potato shit, why bother.
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>>93146296
I'm not, I just worded it wrong, perhaps "from puberty" would be better. Plus I was taking into account people who were adults before Internet porn became a thing and so are a lot less liable to be conditioned since it didn't happen in as critical a time period for them.
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>>93146267
Nah man, I'm aware that women are kinda shitty but porn trally is fucking people up. I don't think things would be this bad if so many dudes weren't strung out on porn. A lot of women tend to fall in line if they've got a man in their life. The feminiat conditioning can be broken the problem is we leave them to wallow in ot for a decade until they're just worthless jaded whores.
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>>93146341
not for this particular macguffin, no
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>>93146301
>>93146335
Philistines, the lot of you.
When I was 13 I was jerking it to big tittied anime girl with glasses and remember exactly where she was from. (Episode 3 of the Cool Devices series)
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>>93146255
Beastars & Brand New Animal are already being worked on so i'll skip them. Give me some jumps to cover Blammers /hmoba/ works from /Trash/, Under Her Tail, Ironclaw, Urban Jungle, Rango, Lackadaisy, Amorous, Resident Cheesel: Moushley, etc. etc. There's way more but I can't remember nor be bothered to at the moment but I think that gives a good enough idea for furry jumps.
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>>93146354
>Whenever a jumper sparks and tries to leave their own little multiverse of all settings to find what is beyond they run into an impenitrable Source Wall made of potatoes.
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>>93146354
>/JC/ has officially reached the Buddhism stage of cope for why no one's fulfilled the pact
Kek, imagine this becoming a religion in the future with multiple canons about which path gets you a chain.
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Chainbutt. You get a chain, but it has to be PG-13. No sex, no drugs, you know the deal.

Every Jump also has to have a moral lesson so that the audience may grow into fine individuals.
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>>93146297
>In the first place if people don't want to be raped, then they should be prepared to defend themselves at all times, not expect others to change for them.
Are you really saying that rapists shouldn't have to not be rapists? Because that's a pretty fucking low bar to clear anon.
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>>93146349
That isn't rape culture, it is rape as a byproduct of human conquest which is perfectly normal. People like Genghis Khan were highly successful people who worked towards conquering as much as he could. He used rape as a tool, he didn't let it define the Mongolian culture of his time. It should also be noted that people do not complain when the rapist is successful or has good looks, they only complain about it when they don't benefit from it.
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>>93146383
He's stating a simple truth, which is that the only person you have control over is yourself. The only person you can truly change is yourself. So change your behavior in order to get the results you want because that's the only thing which is in your control.
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>>93146383
>We have Khan simps
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>>93146383
NTA, if you don't like rape then pick up a rock and stone rapists to death instead of complaining about society
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Some people here got molested by their grandpa's way too much and it really shows.
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>>93146288
Anon a zoomer with a bat can take them out.
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>>93146389
I mean if you motivate your armies by having them act like fucking hentai orcs, that's rape as a culture. Your culture is based on rape as a primary motivating factor. You follow Genghis Khan because he lets you act like a complete degenerate to his enemies.
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>>93146419
That was how most armies have acted throughout history. The goal has always been "let's kill those fuckers, steal their shit and rape their wives".

It's just that sometimes they throw a weak moral justification into it as well.
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>>93146367
>Amorous
It's been years and I'm still annoyed how long it took him to fix his stuff. Also the enormous differences between the early chars(Seth, Skye) and the later ones (Lex in particular) kind of bother me to this day. But I suppose it could technically be made into a pretty mundane jump. Nothing crazy in there from what I remember.
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>>93146383
The only way you can enforce change is through application of force. You cannot set a bar and think that people will comply just because you said so. And even then, if you do this, you better be ready to give up any facade of having a free society that values personal freedom. Your moral standards apply to you, not anyone else. Even if we agree as individuals that rape is not morally sound, it doesn't mean that other people will be stopped from being rapists. As the other anon said, if you don't want rapists to exist, then you need to take enforcement into your own hands, and if you have sufficient power and influence, you will be able to make that a reality. If you do not, then all you are doing is whining about something you can't change.
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>>93146434
Yeah it'd be a pretty simple one that but it'd still be a good one for a generic furry setting to go to.
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Is Godfrey canonically a cuckhold? He seemed way too okay with Tarnished killing him to go fuck his wife.

Beta male spotted.
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>>93146455
>He seemed way too okay with Tarnished killing him to go fuck his wife.
He attempted to beat you to death
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>>93146419
And there is nothing wrong with this. He prioritizes his people. He doesn't give a shit about his enemies because those are his enemies. He didn't live in a time when he had the luxury to give a shit about his enemies. It still isn't a culture of rape, because what defines their behavior isn't the rape. It's the lack of discipline post battle, rape wasn't the only thing they did,
and they did it as proof that they conquered their foes, knowing that their foes would do the same thing in their position.
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>>93138722
Could I get a link to War Priest I haven't been able to locate it.
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>>93146483
It's on Kindle/Audible; https://a.co/d/09vTByPt
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>>93146464
Yes, but when you beat him, he goes out complimenting you. At the end he admits to be the inferior beta male, though I suppose he probably already knew this since all of his children were clearly meant to never see the light of day.
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>>93146476
NTA but rape culture is just a culture where rape is normal and accepted, which would fit the definition. The reasoning why rape is accepted doesn't really matter.
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>>93146382
Does this include shitty 4kids censorship?
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>>93146363
People wouldn't turn to porn if they led fulfilling lives outside of it. Porn is a symptom, not a cause.
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>>93146505
It's not rape if the people you do it to aren't people, which by definition excludes all non-Mongols.
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>>93146520
Is bestiality really that much better than rape?
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>>93146520
Furry Khan.
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>>93146502
It's the masculine urge to die to a worthy opponent
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My Great Rune is the Great Rune of Impregnation. It works on young boys.
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>>93146505
Yes, when it is normalized across all aspects of society. Which it isn't, because the rape is being done on enemies of the state. It would be a rape culture if there was a history of mongolians raping each other as a daily practice even outside of war. But there isn't.
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>>93146557
>enemies of the state
*States did properly not exist until the 18th century. Feudal societies are not states
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>>93146557
>Yes, when it is normalized across all aspects of society.
No, that's not how culture works.



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