"Slow Eddies" EditionArchives & Other Resources: https://pastebin.com/wETipqYwAllsync: https://cyoa.allsync.com/s/owWor64yLTngDk3Previous Thread: >>93130375>Thread Question: Do you like cats?
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>>93156417You're not getting Liber Juratis or killing Empedocles. You are getting 1 of 6 Holy Relics that have only recently been discovered. The Holy Relic of the Boundary, Depths, Celestial Body, Devouring Magic, Living Memories, or Paradise Lost.>>93156552>How about something like the slightly psychic paper from Dr Who, that proclaims its holder a cop with the appropriate jurisdiction?I like it, something like a suggestion trick like in Star Wars. >neutralizer from MIBI like it.> Or a magic analyzerI like it, but also seems overpowered. Thank you. >I'm not sure rules for custom built ones are the way to go.I see. I'll just shelve custom familiars.
>>93157058this is shit
>>93157058First /cyoag/ cyoa I remember playing.
>>93157453Aw, new cutie.
>>93157391>You're not getting Liber Juratis or killing Empedocles.You still did not fix the cyoa until that is possible.
>>93157485Looks like you won't be playing it. I guess I'll just have to move on in life.
>tfw i've been here for yearsEscapism became a cell...
Even if you can defeat Empedocles somehow, you aren't the strongest. Creation and Reason are still stronger than her. Checkmate.
>>93157567Escapism is a lie, there is no escape.
I like "wish fulfillment" and "power fantasy" as much as the next guy, but I don't need every CYOA to have everything I want, and I also enjoy scenarios with difficulties, dangers, and tough decisions
>>93158015HARDCORE MODE>Food - Veggies (5)I suppose living longer isn't that bad>Companion - Alone (2)Don't need people.>Electronics - AC (2)Do need air conditioning>Side Room - Garden (1)Cheapest option>Entertainment - Internet (10)Time to brainrot!
>>93156912THis one doesn't appeal much to me, but I like the slickness of its layout and overall graphical design.
>>93157391I think you should make a familiar advantage, rate it maybe 1-3 (or maybe 1-5, maybe with the highest ranks exclusively for summonses.) With a menu of powers/natures a familiar can have (e.g. take human form, use powers in human form, use illusions, etc.) and a point budget that increases as you spend more points in the perk.Then an optional perk after that which lets you spend an equal number of points on a second familiar (probably restrict this to Summoners) for those who want a pair of Tailed Beasts from Naruto (that turn into Kitsune chicks).If so, make sure you balance the cosy of familiars against the cost of companions. At present a single companion point can get you a low-rank mage commoner ally or friendship with the *strongest mage in the setting*. I'd personally make normal companions cost 1 point, Archmages cost 2, and have Auctors cost more points the closer your relationship is with them:At 1: Acquaintances. Perhaps you earned the right to attend a once a year masterclass with 19 other mages, taught by the actor themselves, and as such they they stay up to date on your doings and you're prioritised over normies if you seek an audience. Maybe they knew your parents. You have tea every midsummer with them etc etc.At 2: Allies. You know them as well as one so young can. You might have to make an appointment to see them as they're so busy but you'll GET that appointment. You're likely to be actively working with them/studying under them.At 3: Besties. You're either a close personal friend who can drop in at will, a trusted ally, someone they owe big time, their child, or their spouse.Also, I have almost no idea about the personalities of most characters, they need a bit more dialogue that isn't just suspicious "oh hello cop what's up cop"
>>93158728*summoners*CostAutocorrect.
I want to make an MMO-themed cyoa where you play as a Tank, Support, or DPS character. What are some unique abilities to give the classes?
>>93158959Tank - Defend Others, CounterattackSupport - Buff, DebuffDPS - Combo, Defense Down
>>93158728>they need a bit more dialogue that isn't just suspicious "oh hello cop what's up cop"ENTER BantzLoli.
>>93141278>North>Wuxian>Fist>Beast King>Melody>Dark HeavenMelody is cute. And I am the strongest. I will just punch away my problems. Martial chads won again.
>>93157391>I see. I'll just shelve custom familiars.no, custom familiars and summons are absolutely the way to go. A page with a small bestiary of types and letting the player choose is absolutely the way to go unless you're going to make familiars fleshed out characters like evoco and the auspices. Player choice is absolutely the way to go, dont let one nigger ruin familiars for everyone else
>>93158959depends, are you going into classes of those archetypes of those classes or are you doing literally just 'tank, support, dps'. You posted Final fantasy art, so stuff like having defensive tanks with different substyles like offensive tanks, healing tanks, buffing, debuffing and healing supports, pure immobile blaster dps or fast ninja dps, summoner or hybrid wildcards who can do some or any role, etc. You have a lot of options for different classes that fit within each archetype and are distinct
>>93158999Only "fake ass mage" was good.But yes I want Bants.
>>93156912Husanon here I just wanted to say that I'm working on something.It is similar to Godly Husbandry.With a better developed power section and hopefully better characterisation for the waifus.
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>>93158453Have you been mewing?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klt5G6qnGAY
>>93158959Fuckass ones.If you don't have three or more major skills per section that give a brief glance towards their core "role" and never look back, then I am not interested.
>>93159167>mewingWhat the fuck even is that
Comfy-life Spare-time Assassin?
>>93159349This reminds me of Buddy Daddies, so you have to include something about picking up a ridiculously cute little girl/boy that you adopt in a wholesome way.
>>93159106Any of them adults?
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>>93159106What sort of waifus?
>>93159106Finally a good author is back.
>last post was 3 hours agoSooooo Magi didn't revive shit it's over
>>93160447Of course is did not, it was shit.
>>93159714SlimesI shall ascend to slime status and become the Slime King.
>>93159106Did you stop being a pedo and started enjoying real women?
>>93156926>>93156930>>93156933>>93156936One of the best
>>93160447>>93160665>1 month of discussion>Over 50 builds>Two authors have returned>Tok impotently spamming Dragonfall as an attempt to counterMagi Won.
Rolled 1 (1d5)>>93159714Dwarves sound like the biggest bros.I'll encourage them to use their economic power to weaken the influence of the groups that use their economic power for nefarious/shelfish ends.and I'll roll for one of the five princess waifus
>>93159434Depends on your definition of adult.>>93159561I'm trying to have a wide variety of them.>>93160890ToT>>93159154>>93159881Thanks guys I'll try to deliver a very fun CYOA.
>>93161024>1 month of shitposting pretending to be discussion>clearly samefagged builds to bloat the count>unrelated author dramaMagi did not win, it died like the shit it was.
>>93161645Someone seems upset at Magi Case being a successful CYOA with multiple builds and discussion. How about you stop coping and seething and go make a successful CYOA like Magi Case.
>>93161825I would rather not make a flop carried by hype and shitposting like that if I was an author.
>>93161825you should stop coping instead retard
>>93161825>Oh, you don't like X? Why don't you make your own X then?
>>93158999Why in the fuck is she so aggressive as a character?
>Italics cares more about Magi Case, Chinese Wuxia, and some other shit.Why is being a Lamentationsfag suffering?
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>>93160890>HusAnon can't be a pedoBut it's okay when Italics does it?
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>>93162698Italics gets away with >They are 1000 yo broWhile HusAnon does the>She is 13 out of 10Besides they are lolis not children
>>93163109Their age are not stated, but it's implied that they're children based on their stations in life.Also they look and act like children
>>93159106i love Godly Husbandry... don't disappoint me, i trust you
>>93163109Italics literally le>>93162626ts you marry and have sex with a 13/14 year old in Eternal Blue. This is not including Pokemon or his other works like Witches or Kins Wolfe with the twins.
>>93163369I'm curious what do you like about it?
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>>93163694anime is turning lonely autistic men into pedosSAD!!!
>>93163109>Italics gets away with>>They are 1000 yo broItalicssisters, we are not beating the alligations. Our response?
>>93164031>Our response?To keep defending him and eating his cum, of course.
>>93164290Your fixation on Italics' cum is getting suspicious.
>>93164676Who wouldn't be fixated on that white gold of his?
>>93159467I honestly don't see why people got mad at this.Can't you I dunno wait to fuck your wife a couple years?Or treat them as an adopted daughter instead?It kind of speaks about the people complaining.>No I have to fuck the children the CYOA is forcing me to do it!!!! AAAAHHHH
>>93164738no one got mad at it
>>93164772I mean there's a lot of pedo accusations in just this thread.That means someone got angry
>>93164788that's just banter anon
>>93164788Not as angry as the italics defense squad
>>93164738You seem like the angry one here, groomer-kun
>>93164986shut the FUCK up chaosfag
>>93164738Having to wait to fuck your wife is unironic blue balls and cuckoldry. Treating a girl you don't know as your daughter is just as bad as wanting to sex them.
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>>93165275what a retarded thing to say
>>93165073>No, you are madlolI think we should wait till he finishes his next one
>>93164738It is very clearly a pedo cyoa lmao. What even is this defense.
>>93165528I would not call it a pedo CYOA.I remember one basement CYOA that uses IRL pictures with an option to have a real little girl.That is actual pedo shit
>>93165567Pedophilia is the sexual attraction to prepubscient girls, fictional or real.
>>93164738It is very very strange to ask people to pick a child to be their wife.
And here I thought the thread was active again because of OC.
>>93165599nah, just purity crusaders jumping at shadows like always
>>93165598Not if you are religious fundamentalist or live in a tribal society.
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>>93165598I mean the obvious bad guys are the ones telling you to do it.>>93165581And lolis are not children they are drawings
>>93161024Man I never posted my build. I'll pass cause the hype has probably passed, but yeah objectively people played the hell out of it. We complain about its problems because we otherwise like it. The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference.>>93161486I'm well aware that A: anime characters aren't real, at all, B: lots of 'adult' anime characters are obviously designed to look like children, C: lots of 'child' anime characters look, act and are treated as adults (Jojo I'm looking at you) and D: Being attracted to obviously attractive sexual traits on a cartoon character who looks like a hot 20-something isn't suddenly paedophilia because someone draws the number '17' next to their head. Stephen King wrote a bunch of realistically written 12 year old characters fucking in a sewer. THAT'S fucked up.My definition of adult in this case is basically a character who looks adult, doesn't talk like a little kid, and isn't using some "SHE LOOKS 9 BUT SHE'S TOTALLY 90000 YEARS OLD" thing. I really don't care if said character uses a picture of like, 16 year old naruto or 17 year old Rin Tohsaka, they look nothing like actually children anyway.I've met actual teenagers as an adult. They really aren't attractive. I've had child cousins. If someone had tried to do something sexual with them I'd soak them in oil and burn them.
>>93165673>Can't you I dunno wait to fuck your wife a couple years?That's literally grooming. It's fantasy, not reality, but it's a grooming fantasy. If you can't see why that's suspect to some then you're as autistic as >>93165275Not worth throwing a shitfit over but then I'm ot the one who brough it up.
>>93161959Because you're playing a Magi Investigator, so everyone treats you with suspicion. We get one, maybe two paragraphs of dialogue from each character, that never displays their normal personality because they're talking to a detective.I LIKE playing a detective. I LOVE several of the cases. But the cases are like a page. And the entire character section feels like a police line up.
>>93165917I can see that but anons regularly commit fantasy murder/genocide and no one bats an eye.I also agree that it should not be woth fighting over.
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I've been away for a while. What has italics said he plans on changing about Magi case?
>>93166001>I've had child cousins. If someone had tried to do something sexual with them I'd soak them in oil and burn them.what if that's my fetish too
>>93156912So talking about the curse that makes you suffer if you see other suffer.What do you guys prefer.That it makes you suffer in a similar to what you are withnessing?So that you feel hunger if you see people suffering from a famine or feel sad if you see someonein deep depresion.Or that it translates the suffering into pure physical pain regardless of the kind of suffering?
>>93166078First case to keep things fresh. Otherwise you might get 'used' to the weird bouts of pain and their effects wouldn't be the same.
>>93165615last time I played this I got ACK'd by the revolver on the first roll
>>93166041Neat!-25 Intrinsic sun magic-25 Intrinsic wind magic-25 Intrinsic familiar (sun/'Helios')-5 Memory ring ('Ring of Recall/Recollection')-5 Shapeshifting ring ('Ring of Recharacterization')-5 Inspiration ring ('Ring of Reconstitution')-5 Telepathy ring ('Ring of Reveal/Revelation') -5 Spirit amulet ('Amulet of the Aetherial')
>>93165839Then yeah there are adults, and at least one hag.
>>93166289dumb kot, you will never be a wizard
>>93166394Hag?
>>93159057>A page with a small bestiary of types and letting the player choose is absolutely the way to go.This is already the idea I had in mind with the Familiar section of the CYOA. If you take Monster Caremenship (Educated Talent) or afforded other choices (Familiar Master, Etc) you can acquire familiars. Which is a list of different mythological and OC monsters based on their types (Beast, Fairy, Demon, Artificial) featuring a description and what they can do for you.The custom part was for actual customization of companion familiars like you would see in Lamentation Comrade Add-On, but entirely different in options / presentation / materials.>>93162065Lamentations R~ is still in-development as some elements of the CYOA have been reorganized. The R~ Update will help present a better adventure especially since it fill feature main antagonists in the form of the Enigmas and Old Directorate. that you will face. Human companions will re-implemented instead of rush-cut like in 2.0. >>93165966> We get one, maybe two paragraphs of dialogue from each character, that never displays their normal personality because they're talking to a detective.This will be addressed in Redux since some wanted more personal details and activities of mages like Elspeth (Her playing fighting games) in the CYOA.>. But the cases are like a page.I thought 12 cases would be enough and assumed the hidden cases would help. I was told to remove hidden cases (Make a separate page for them in the back) and to bolster case numbers from 12 to more. I now have Primary Cases (Your Job / Magi Society Related) and Secondary Cases (Companions / Character / Clan-related Cases). Elspeth's Civil War, Mircea's War on Vampires, Aozdou Conspiracy, the Evoco Sealing Project, etc are all now Secondary Cases with their own description of events and possible outcomes.
>>93166041> Intrinsic Stars > Intrinsic Inspiration> Intrinsic Creatures> Intrinsic SpiritsSummon stuff, mind control them to work for me and make myself and them really lucky. Then spread them far and wid and hope one of them stumbles across a portal.
>>93166500The main narrator had a tutor, you get her as a companion if you help her out.
>>93166041>Intrinsic:Memory, Inspiration, Debilitation, TelepathyI'll mind control people to gather resources and find portals. I won't use the portals myself because I seek other, more beneficial, win conditions, but I'll sell their locations to others. In case I die and reincarnate, I'll take full advantage of my memory and insert extremely complex and subtle mental triggers, different for every mind slave, for easy mind control reestablishment.
>>93166510I'm this anon>>93165966And I'm happy to hear most of these changes. I'm sorry if I sound whiny considering how big magi case is and how long it took, I only gripe because I care. Now, for some advice:>12 cases would be enoughI didn't say that it wasn't. I'm saying they were one page. I spent 25 or so pages of reading to prepare for a cases that were a few paragraphs long each, and two of them weren't cases, they were Teaching and Retiring, which are fine things, but they make the list of actual cases even shorter. One thing you could do is write a first page describing a case, and second page describing its possible outcomes. Like "unlock a secret of Ford magic" was listed as a possible reward for one of them.What secret? Why do I care? Is it only usable by Materialisation mages? Also:What cocktails would Jie, Stacy, Asteris and Cynthia like?And how do they feel about guys with abs? I need workout motivation.
>>93166582Oh so hag as in witch. Thought you were one of those guys who seethe about women over 20 for a second. My bad.
>>93166669No, I meant hag as in an older woman.She was her main caretaker and tutor as a child.It's not going to be her Chun-Li is just an example hag.
>>93166510Oh, continuing from here:>>93166649More details are fantastic, but I think in general we need more dialogue from each character to help establish their actual tone. One of the things I like about Cynthia is that she comes across as prim and proper in her dialogue, and the teaching stuff she asks about gives us something I can imagine actually spending time with her talking about, and how she'd sound while talking about it.Stacy's option to be the rogue mage from her background, plus her just. Just using some slang, means she sounds distinct and there's a clear option for how to have a history with her that's easy to imagine and sets up fun interactions.Asteris is formal like most of them, but she's an archmage, that's fine. What I don't like is that the extra dialogue for if you're a mature investigator feels pointless. It's just her stating facts when it could be something like her being informal, friendly, or even vulnerable (expressing doubts about her support of her Auctor maybe?). Though again, I like her calling us 'old friend', stuff like that makes picking mature investigator actually appealing.As for Jie, I like her dialogue a lot. Especially her second paragraph. That bit there made me want to lock in for 'marry her and show her life outside rigid clan structure' route. However that brings me to another idea:I think marriageable characters should have a paragraph of dialogue set aside for 'if they're your spouse' and a bit of description somewhere of what married life with them is like.Aside from that, as I've said in the past, your magic descriptions need to use a bit less technobabble and a bit more powerscaling, and characters need a bit of info on how they like to fight, or what job they do, how they do it etc.For example: you once said Jie's fighting style would involve her drawing her sword, then everything around her being slashed apart by sword qi.That's awesome.Why isn't it in her writeup?
>>93166755Chun li is actually an older woman so OK.
>>93166096thanks!I was thinking about what to use to replace the curse that amplifies your anger if you see something you find morally enraging.or should I leave that as it is?
Stop attentionwhoring with your non-existing WIP.
>>93166923I've posted evidence of it's existence multiple times
>>93166943Disregard him dude. He's fishing for replies.
>>93166649>>93166813*Ahem*Your waifus a shit. A shit!
>>93167067I'm glad you think so. It's always good to know the homies aren't interested in your crush/crushes, makes things less awkward for everyone, so thanks for saying so bro. Boilermakers after work?
I might update my entropist build
>>93157453Tok took your CYOA virginity
>>93166983Good point I should have known better.
>>93167253And I will take his vaginal virginity when /cyoag/ all gets isekai'd together
>>93167288>fucking t*k
>>93167492>has not made a single cyoa I enjoyImpressive. Even Beri has some stuff I like and in general I hate cutseyshit
>>93167492I wouldn't fall in love with him (her), but pussy is pussy
>>93167288>when /cyoag/ all gets isekai'd togetherWhat setting? Most of you are extreme retards btw
>>93167552>t. virgin
>>93167552Have standards. You're being isekaid, you can have whichever woman you want, don't go for tok of all people.
>>93167067I'm trying to figure out what they have in common for those four specifically to get picked.
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>>93167288I am the strongest btwIsekai'd cyoag is my kangdom
>>93168075Sukuna is a massive faggot, but I'll still quote him.
>>93166649>>93166813Thanks.>Why isn't it in her writeup?I can only fit so much information.>>93167640The only thing I see in common with them is that they all have big boobs. >>93166923Hopefully, you don't consider them non-existing soon. I'm close to finishing Ecclesiastes CYOA. All that is left is mostly Companion profiles and Catastrophes (Main Antagonists, think Overlords from JRPG Traitor) then throwing it all into Photoshop. Though, I'm flip-flopping on companions as I have great images for near-contemporary characters and then character art with more fantasy aesthetics, and I sort of don't want to waste them but also not clash with the CYOA's presentation. The CYOA takes place in a JRPG fantasy world that progressed to near-contemporary times (it's honestly a mix-match of technology from different eras.), but has trappings of the Renaissance period and existence of nobility socially-politically-militarily, and most armies are still fielding swords/crossbows/pikes.
>>93167607>Magi case isekai>Marry Jie, Stacy, Asteris and Cynthia>Solve wizard crimes and relax in a hot tub with three bodacious bard babes and a thick cultivator honey>no TokEasiest choice.
>>93168219I understand only so much information will fit but 'how a mage does magic' is rather important to how you imagine them.>>93167640They're gorgeous, glamorous, interesting, feminine, have cool powers, interesting stories and->they all have big boobs.They all have REALLY big boobs. So big.But jokes aside I think being married to all four would just be amazing. Whatever led up to it would have to be amazing. Married life with them would be amazing. Our kids would be badass.>>93168219I don't think I've heard much about Ecclesiastes. What's it about?
>>93167585>when /cyoag/ all gets isekai'd together>What setting?Generic fantasy world, something everyone can enjoy.
>>93166041ULTRA LUCKCHAD>Lifebound StarsLuck AND teleportation. This is good shit>Lifebound Familiar x9So I have 9 familiars with Stars powers, which means I can superluck myself or superjinx someone. I'll have them all be doting members of my harem.So superluck myself and I'll probably stumble into a portal under the rock I'm sitting on. ANd if anyone attacks me, I 10fold curse them until Wonder of U stares in awe.
I need to hear you guys opinion.What edelgard design should I use?This one?
>>93168394Actually, I've got an even better idea now.>Item Stars>Item Familiar x24Same deal as the above, but the items are a set of 24 false teeth replacing my own. Now I get 25x luck instead of just 10x!
>>93168434Or this one?
>>93168434>>93168441I'm partial to the first one
>>93168434Second one, its hotter
>>93168434>>93168441First looks more commanding, 2nd is more feminine. I'd go with the second.
>>93168233I'm going to satre it and ruin your adventure. Now tok's soul is trapped inside your 3 waifus. Have fun faggot.
>>93168300>What's it about?It's a CYOA set in a near-contemporary fantasy world where the authority of nature has been overthrown by humanity and children of the gods (Beasts) are forced to wander as outcasts of the land after the Mythological War countless centuries ago. You take on the role of a Marshal Lord, an autonomous lord (Warlord) who is responsible for keeping the wandering Beast Tribes in check (Genocide / Calamity War) so they cannot revive their slain gods / re-establish dominance and is called upon as a neutral arbiter to affairs done by city-states / other Lords. The meat of the CYOA is about building yourself up as the Marshal Lords are confirmed as humanity's strongest (The only ones that can rival them are: Divinity and Heroes from the Mythological Era, both which are incapacitated and dead). Organizing your Marshal Forces / the official policies you hold, selecting the Beast Tribes that will be your Nemesis (Recurring antagonists), taking on different inquiries (Intermissions) that lead you to travel with your Subordinate Officers to distant cities / settlements / places to confront ancient / nascent evils or lords threatening the peace or taking part in transpiring events, and lastly confronting a Catastrophe that will attempt to overturn the world's order to spill doom for the era. The waifu options are either your Vice-Lord (Commander) and Subordinate Officers (Party Members). Don't know about including Divine Beasts since that's been getting negative feedback since people don't want to take an actual drawback from making a deal with divinity to gain a free waifu and conceptual power-up.
>>93168492I un Sartre your Sartre. And I have four. Not three. So cope.>>93168434>>93168441I favor the first. You might find an excuse for the second too though.>>93168536Sounds based. I think there must be a snappier name than 'Divine Beasts' though. Maybe "Titans"? The waifus look fantastic, artstyle looks good, I loved magi case, the basic premise sounds fun and interesting? I'm looking forward to it.And picturing Asteris, Cynthia, Stacy and Jie in those uniforms.Because I'm predictable.Thanks for the information Italics. One question though, what do you enjoy most about making cyoas?
>>93167790I really like Fairy Queen, although I'd have liked to see a section on what the fairies of each element tend to be like. Not knowing is making me hesitant to pick certain elemental options, since (you) will be surrounded by them for the rest of (your) life.Oh, and if (you) really want to build an empire, and fully live up to the "queen" title, pick "Twinned Element" twice. With the ability to mix-and-match, a Fairy Queen with five elements would have 125 unique fairy types they can make. One with six elements has 726 options . . .(Anyone have any idea how to Save Solaea? Or Crush the Core without getting all life on Earth wiped out by solar radiation?)
>>93168434>>93168441The thing is that the first one fits better with the theme but I like the second one more
>>93167790Also, is it just me, or does Beri seem to be building a shared setting? Particularly with his interest in doing angel and titan CYOAs?
>>93168615Several seem to be related to each other, if nothing else. Including: *New Summoner*New Avatar*New Elemental*Fairy QueenAnd possibly New Assassin, maybe even New Magical Girl, seem to reference each other.
>>93167585A setting where magic demands actual effort and/or understanding of the world. 90% of /tg/ would be completely gatekept from dickwaving, then.
>>93158015HARDCORE GIMMIE THAT CASH AND LIFESPAN>Food: Tasteless- 1Honestly I've always been fine with bland food>Companions: Alone- 2The options here are terrible and I'm sure ten years in a room with anyone would make it so only one of them leaves at the end>Electronics: Surround sound system- 4I sure hope this is enough to stave off insanity>Side Room: Library- 5Might be a good time to learn Japanese. What else am I gonna do?>Entertainment: Skylight -1It's cheap>Services: Lab Research- 7I am obligated to take this life extension even if that means I'll go crazy in the basement with nothing but books and musicWell I probably won't make it long before I make a noose out of book pages but think about the benefits if I do survive!>>93158453Internet's a service. You still need an entertainment which would put you overbudget.
>>93168864FUCK you're right.HARDCORE ROUND TWO>Food - Groceries (3)Ramen and veggies, some meat every now and then. >Companions - Kitten (3)Awww kitty.>Electronics - A/C (2)As before.>Side Room - Garden (1)Cheapest option.>Entertainment- Skylight (1)Cheapest option.>Services - Internets (10)
>>93159349>Comfy-life Spare-time Assassin?New Assassin?
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DOES ANYONE HAVE THE CYOA WHERE YOU HAVE TO TEAM UP WITH A LORD OF THE RINGS VILLAIN TO TAKE OVER EARTH?That cyoa was so fucking baller.
>>93158015>Tasteless Meal Baras a staple>AloneThe other anon is right that it would be maddening to be trapped with someone>Old RadioNews, music, weird AM stuff. a really cheap way to connect with the outside world>Gardenplace to grow my shit (food) to augment the meal bar diet, calming hobby, craft materials>Skylight>Workshop+sunlight, weather, and place to improve my environment - could make furniture, tools, clothes, whatever>Medical Care>Educationmaking sure I survive the stay and can learn whatever seems relevant to remain sane and make the most of the timethis one's easy...
>>93169074>DOES ANYONE HAVE THE CYOA WHERE YOU HAVE TO TEAM UP WITH A LORD OF THE RINGS VILLAIN TO TAKE OVER EARTH? . . . Any chance that you're thinking of Rule 34 Economy?
>>93169102Nah.The premise was that Sauron found you on earth (I think) and was going to send you one of his generals to help you take over earth.Witch king was godlike at war, Saruman could teach you magic and make orc grunts, the mouth of sauron was good at diplomacyIt was sick
>>93168536LET ME MARRY HAGS! AAAAAAAAAAAHSince turning 30, Christmas cake just doesn't do it for me anymore man. I need me some of those sexy 40yo's that have kept fit and active and aged gracefully.I wish that when I was 20, someone had sat down and told me I had a finite amount of time to pursue Christmas Cakes. Why didn't anyone tell me bros. . .
>>93169128Sauron's Minion?
>>93169145That's the one.Huh, I thought there was more of a setup to it. Oh well.Thanks dude.
>>93168536Why do they all have big boobs? Do we have any younger party members? JRPGs are supposed to be about being a teenager saving the world.
>>93168536Have you considered making a separate blog for your WIP discussions?
>>93169182Cringe
>>93169194Ignore him if you don't like him and his content. Grow some balls.
>>93169258Why so angry? Wouldn't it be better for you to get your Italics WIP newsletter from one place?
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>>93169139Why don't you just still date women who are 25-30?>>93169182Why would they be? Probably. No they aren't.
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>>93157391>I see. I'll just shelve custom familiars.stop shelving customization you already shelved spellcrafting reee
>>93169520He'll selve this comment too.
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>>93169439>No they aren't.JRPGs are literally defines by youths saving the world from danger. What the fuck are you talling about? Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy, two of the grandfathers of the genre literally has this as their most famous plots. Then you have JRPGs of today that continue the default trope.
>>93168300cute dog
>>93168633A new adventurer is clearly set in some setting tied to the titanlands from a new summoner. Branching heart is the "prime setting" of a lot of different beri cyoas, and the existence of globe keepers means that many of these different worlds may be actually in the possession of some girl living a normal life in a modern world somewhere.
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>>93159139Updating this a bit: >>93147449>AwakeningEarly>View of selfPragmatism> FacilityThe InstituteNow necessary for certain memories.>MemoriesThe Experiments, GamesI decided that the powers I could get with these points were worth much more than the alternative. Knowledge can be gained later, but powers are much harder to get (if it's at all possible) and are more useful to actually survive, especially since I can use Absorption to boost them to the stratosphere.>StatsControl 1, Discretion 2I figure Control 2 isn't truly necessary anymore as I can calm myself down with Organic Response at will.>CompanionsElizabeth, Elie, MarianaReplaced Chloe with Elizabeth as she clearly needs out more.>Powers TypePsionic>Mind ControlSuggestion (M1), Defence (M1 M2 M3)> PrecognitionInsight (M1 I2), Probability Detection (M1)> Body ManipulationOrganic Response (M1)> Enhancement Peak Body (M1)> Elemental ManipulationAbsorption (M1 Cold), Cold Generation (M1 I1), Freezing (M1 M2 I1), Cryomancy (M1 I1)>Reality WarpingProbability Manipulation (M1), Luck Augmentation (M1 I1)I've shored up my weaknesses a bit with an always on danger sense and a peak human body. Probability Detection is also incredibly useful for only 1 point, always knowing whether what you're doing is actually likely to work is huge. Finally, as mentioned Organic Response lets me bypass the need for Control 2 and is very useful for dealing with the stresses of my situation. >RevelationThe ChamberStill a major problem, still has to be stopped.>DecisionEscape>Getting outTeamwork>ComplicationsPolice Activity, Men in black, Mobsters, Military Mobilisation, Black Ops Soldiers, We have your parentsHate to do this to them, but my build isn't really made to hide from literally everyone. I'll go save them once I've built up enough of a community to keep them safe long term.>What's the Plan Now?Fight, Join Others
>>93169520>stop shelving customization you already shelved spellcrafting reeeHe didn't technically shelve spellcasting. He in fact made it better by not constraining us to a ruleset allowing us to make our own magical spells using a generalized topic of magic. Magic should never be constrained to a ruleset of creation.
>>93171546If all I wanted was to be told 'do it yourself' I wouldn't even bother playing a cyoa in the first place. He should've just went the Power Creator Xenon route and have a list of pre-created spells while also allowing us to make our own. That way if you don't want to do it yourself you don't have to, and if you do it's even easier because you have others to compare it to.
>>93168434Second is a princess, first a queen. Go with the queen.
>>93168434Use the first one. Do not listen to the coomers.
>>93168440>False teethReplace your bones.
>>93171546Still, seeing Drac people being forced to choose between 'ice spear' and 'fireball' would have been funny.
>>93168536>Don't know about including Divine Beasts since that's been getting negative feedback since people don't want to take an actual drawback from making a deal with divinity to gain a free waifu and conceptual power-up.Are you going to elaborate on what you mean by this? What drawbacks? What power-up do we get? And what kind of waifu do we get?
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>>93172168DracGODS would just be recreating Noble Phantasms from Fate, shitter. We rule over the Elements that make up the universe and planet. You should be thankful we just don't delete you.
>>93168536>Don't know about including Divine Beasts since that's been getting negative feedback since people don't want to take an actual drawback from making a deal with divinity to gain a free waifu and conceptual power-up.They don't matter italics. Listen to me. KEEP THEM.
>>93172602Assume my answer is between>but Ford will win THOUGH>but Evoco can summon a BETER GOD>but Meirin IS IMMUNE>but Galileo is BEYONDOr something like that.
>>93168536I concur with the other guy. If there is a serious drawback & a serious boon gained by picking a Divine Beasts, it's a net-positive addition to the CYOA.
>>93172773Evoco summoning gods is an anti-thesis to their goals. Also, DracGODS solo
>>93172891I'm still convinced a Fordfag would write a whole paragraph about how they win anyway.
>>93172910>>93172891>>93172796>>93172773>>93172710>>93172602Totally natural italics discussion
>>93172932All mine. I'm trying to discredit Italics' fans to prepare the place for our true Lord and Master, Tokhaar Gol.
>>93172910Because FordFags are deranged and hype the shit out of their jobber founder, clan, and magic.Their magic loses against Alchemy (Forma De True) and their Clan got busted by the feds and went "Sorry for the trouble, Sir." When their furry glowie leader was going to get executed.
>>93172999Perhaps.I never understood the hype, since a magic like that will probably fail if the opponent use multiple schools of magic at once (Yggdrasil) or use it in a way that wasn't observed before (Galileo) or time fuckery and more.Even for utility Utility sounded more useful with prep time.
>>93173095Magic like Ford fails because it has a giant filter. Either know the technology or invent it from scratch. If you want to make a gun or sword, easy. Want to go blow-to-blow with someone summoning eldritch tentacles lmao gonna need to asspull some.advance tech and know how it works.
>>93173154One of their spells is to understand tech anon.
>>93173265A bit useless if they don't know/have the tech needed to win beforehand.
>>93173298But they would. Because they have that spell.
>>93173316>they have that spellLet's say a Ford is faced with a Drac-Atman asshole that burns souls. Unless his 'Know-Tech' spell comes with a mental library OR he already saw a way to combat that kind of magic, he won't know what to materialize to deal with the aggressor.Or at least that's my understanding of their limitations.
>>93159106Please make some of them adults, thanks.
>>93159106Missed you my dude. Anons were retards for not reading the WIPs and then complaining about no adults in godly husbandry lmao.Ah important question.Cunny?
>>93173265>>93173316You can only understand if you get the tech in the first place and OC tech is literally invented by effort and you can't cheat your way into it.
>>93173457>>93173498Don't worry there will be lolis, hags and those in between.
>>93173524Go to a library.
>>93173648Just because you read something doesn't mean you understand it.
>>93173697I have a spell for that.
What is the best EVIL cyoa? I want to make an antagonist for myself, as busted and malevolent as possible
>>93173893Entropist eclipses all.
>>93173906I don't know dude, IIRC Sons and the Father were big on family values, which lessen the malevolent aura in my opinion.I'd say one of the Dark Lord/Overlord CYOAs fits more.
>>93173893idk prolly some sadistic /trash/ cyoa
>>93173893Well maybe not the BEST, but some CYOAs that come to mind would be The Poisoned Citadel, Big Evil Magical Overlord or Big Bad Evil Guy.
>>93173893I wouldn't really consider this one the best, but it is pretty pure as far as a setup for evil.
>tfw i don't want to be the strongest anymoreit's over for me bros
>>93174268You never were the strongest in the first place. But you were alright, stand proud.
>/cyoag/ seething over FordGOD superiority yet againCrazy. One might even say OBSESSED.
>>93174391Your bitch ass Clan lost to some underpowered glowies and your bitch ass founder got slapped around by Ostane and KNEELED. Literal "Aieeeeee, forgive me Ostana-sama, I'm Gomensorry."
>>93174420>lostthey killed the glowies though. they just got brought to a tribunal over it where all the auctors pressured them into kneeling>slapped around by ostanea friendly bout, one he would've won if ostane didnt have auto-revive hacks thanks to her relicin short, ford wins actually
>>93169102None of these nerd settings appeal particularly to my tastes.>Earth 12 (125)A cartoon universe will give me good ending most of the time.>>93169407>Supergirl (100)Both brains and brawn.All of these are hot girls, one isn't superior to any other in the looks department. Got to go for power.>>93169433>Good times (90)Not that I think I'm some sort of pick-up god, but this is the only option that doesn't look villainous to the superheroes I've chosen to share a world with. I simply start a romantic relationship with someone.>>True love x2 (70)>>Adjustments (55)I guess this is a waify cyoa. Better embrace it.>>93169437>Genderflip x5 (50)All the major male characters. Superman, batman, darkseid, etc.>Native (45)I only have 1 companion and DC is already known for time-fuckery anyway, but it's just easier this way.>Oh yeah, him (40)>Local Power (30)I'd like to fit in. What can local DC powers give me? Gadgeteering?Just being a kryptonian would already be OP.>>93169447>Lover boy (29)It's my propogation method after all.>Optimization (28)>Magical Brilliance (3)Would have gone for technology, but Kara is already pretty advanced in that.I'll fill in the last gap we have, magic.>>93169453>Unity Engine (-17)Fine. It's an infinite scaling option.>>93169491>Blending in (-16)>Propagation 1 (-15)>Light Fantastic (0)Time to start a magic cult.
>>93173893Give me a cyoa about being an evil devil that buys souls.
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>>93167790I wonder how long it took Beri to find the word, "sysle". It literally means to screw around in a situation that's already a chaotic mess (or - more charitably - to improvise in a situation that's too chaotic to plan). Seems like an excellent choice, particularly if fairies are supposed to be antithetical to the Titans and their championing of Order. Embrace the madness, young fairy queen.
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>>93174551What do demons want human souls for anyway?Is it just damning them to hell out of sadism, or do they get something out of it?Maybe souls are just the only currency that can cross the border between worlds. (Until fiat currency is invented.)I've always been fond of the pyramid scheme concept for soul traders.>If you can sign up 5 other sinners, your soul goes free! And you only have the profits of the initial deal.But you can take it in so many directions.>False god getting cultists to swear their soul to him>Human sacrifice for a forceful damnation>Some sort of drug pusher theme of addicting people to magic until they sign away their soul>The good old fashioned fine print
EntropistGODS how come our cyoa killed every other cyoa?
>>93174920Stop shilling Entropist.
>>93174929Stop taking baits.
>>93174945Then why are (You) taking one, anon?
>>93174739Shut up, Tok.
>>93174739>What do demons want human souls for anyway?Power. Eating souls, using souls for enchantment, taking the knowledge in souls, etc.
>>93174739Tokmaballs, retard
>>93173637Good
>>93174739In the traditional Western/Christian take, Lycifer and his followers do it to prove a point - basically the same point as in the Book of Job. That humans aren't actually good beings, but are just sucking up to God for all the nice things He does for them. And that those same humans will switch sides if someone "outbids" God.In a fantasy setting, though, almost anything is possible. The Rachel Morgan series of novels had it so that demonic magic was inherently corrosive, and her demons bought souls to use as toxic waste dumps.
>>93176503>sucking up to God for all the nice things He does for them>all the nice things He does for themLike what? Creating evil people for the lolz to make them suffer in hell for eternity?
>>93176541God is beyond comprehension!... or something.
>>9316956310 years old to keep me in elementary school. That helps make my job a lot easier>Bust the Bullies -6>World: Modern>Athleticism (strength will be very important)- 3>Super Sugar Candy (endurance is fun, and practical)- 4>Little Steel Blade (for stealth, which is vitally important)- 3>Wealthy- 3>Alone- 1>Back Row Seat (just for fun)- 4>Rival- +1>Stalker- +2>Obsession- +1The challenges are way too expensive, and the goal is strict. I don't want to have to do this, but it's time to show this world how Earth handles things.The stalker should go first as he's not just a threat to me, but also is keeping an eye on my actions which would be a big problem. I don't expect dealing with him will be too difficult though. With my rich parents, I can get myself a silenced weapon and track down where the troublesome teacher lives. It won't be hard to eliminate him after that.As for the bullies, I don't know if every little girl student is immortal or just me, but if they're immortal too they're gonna wish they weren't. I'll stalk the bullies, find the easiest target, learn her schedule, and eventually make my move. While disguised, I'll capture her, torture and mutilate her, and make sure she gets the memo to tell her bully friends to quit or I'll come for them next and I'll be even more brutal then. That should stop them, but it's possible they'll need one more example. After that, I'm sure bullying will never be an issue again.I'm sure the goddess won't have a problem with this. After all, she created this bully scenario, and even proposed having children be abducted or the pleasant city being invaded by soldiers. Honestly she's the real monster. All she had to do was let me live out my cute new little life in peace, but she had to do this game while toying with me and everyone else in this world, so I will make sure to succeed in my mission at all costs, just like she told me to.
>>93171119I kind of want to update my chap too. GIGA LUCKCHAD>AwakeningLate>View of selfPragmatism> FacilityThe CenterCann't beat combat training.>MemoriesCombat Training, Games>StatsPotential 2, Versatility 1>CompanionsAnton, Alice, Michael>Powers TypeMUTANT (to leave humanity behind)>PrecognitionInsight M1 (1)Prescient Reflexes M1 (3)Fun thing about Prescient Reflexes and my teleportation is that I can Flash Step some distance away from myself to evade bullets. I removed the Battle Precog because you don't need much strategy with super strength.>Body ManipulationOrganic Response M1 (1)I forgot that OR could calm yourself down. That's handy.>EnhancementPeak Body M1 (1)Metabolism M1 (1)Muscle Density M1 M2 (2)Super Strength M1 (3)Hyper Durability M1 (3)>MobilityJump M1 I2 (7)Flash Step M1 I1 (4)Teleportation M1 (3)>Elemental ManipulationAbsorption (Fire) M1Fire is the most common offensive energy type, the only kind used by the regular human militaries, and absorbing it will power me up even more. Makes for spectacular battles amidst fiery ruins and lets me Flash Step at max speed indefinitely.>Reality WarpingProbability Manipulation M1 (1)Luck Augmentation M1 I1 (4)This is the replacement for battle precog. Protects me from hostile luck manipulation AND allows me to just punch/teleport wildly and rek people anyway.>RevelationThe TestI am reminded of the finale of God of War 1, after Kratos defeats Ares. You wanted to make me a great warrior? You succeeded.>DecisionEscape>Getting outTeamwork/Mass Breakout>ComplicationsPolice Activity, MIBs, Nemesis, Black Ops Soldiers, Breach of Secrecy, Military Mobilisation, The InquisitorsTalking Alice over to my side in a climactic showdown ought to be fun.>What's the Plan Now?Join Others, Search For Answers.I'll help others out, but really, I want to know more about the Facilities and how I got these powers. Naturally, I want to grow them too.
>>93176541Serious response, although I'm really only saying this purely because I'm tired of seeing that point tossed around as some supposed catch-all anti-proof of divine love.The "point" of evil is choice. If you have no choice but to be good, then there is no meaning to choosing it. If you cannot even conceive of evil at all, there is no meaning to conceiving of good. Similarly, actions must have consequences for them to be meaningful. Therefore, for the good/evil dichotomy to have meaning whatsoever, there must necessarily exist evil actions that warrant punitive consequences. Whether eternal suffering is a worthy consequence for anything less than perfect good is a different argument entirely, but the basic state of humanity in an imperfect world serves some purpose in a philosophical sense that's not merely "for the lolz," and there are certainly people who choose to be evil in a way that renders them culpable for their actions.This isn't really any form of proselytization; I'm just saying there are more nuanced ways to think about it (and any other religion, whether real-life or fantasy-based) than the typical braindead take of "evil exists therefore a God who allows it to cannot be good" that the modern age is so enamored with despite how it crumbles under the scrutiny of five seconds of critical thinking.>>93176568Unironically you can identify spiritual infants by overuse of that phrase. There is so much that can be known, but people don't want to fuckin READ anything these days. They park their asses in the pew, and then it goes in one ear and out the other, and then they spend six and a half days living like the rest of the world. A true shame.
>>93176952There is no choice. God created everything and knows how things will play out, God chose for everything, so choice is fake. Unless God is not omniscient, this is the logical conclusion.
>>93177062Correctly predicting the choice of another is not the same as deciding for them, anon.
>>93177086I see that God made you too retarded to see simple logic.
>>93177136>>93177148He certainly made me autistic, but that is more of a boon here than anything. Whether you believe in free will, random will, or absolute fate, there's no reason that "knowing the future/all possible futures at the moment of creation" removes choice from the actors who live within that future. They choose as they will, and it is simply known up above what that choice will be before it happens. Free will and omniscience can coexist just fine. There is no reason they cannot.
>>93177195>there's no reason that "knowing the future/all possible futures at the moment of creation" removes choice from the actors who live within that futureOh but there is. God made everything while knowing what will happen, God chose to make things the way they are, God chose everything, God chose for everything.Everything you do is dictated by your creator, God, right from the start and He chose all you will ever choose. I say this invalidates all choice, you may think otherwise, but either way, whether one has choice or not is irrelevant as you will do what God made you to do.God made us discuss this.
>>93177350Once again, that does not prevent you from also choosing and happening to make the exact same choice.Envision a box. Everything in that box is real. it is filled with people and life and a whole world full of will and choice. Then, a creator comes by when all is said and done in the box, declaring that he, indeed, created the box and all that was in it. That does not just invalidate the choices made within the box.Logically, God "choosing" whatever happened at the start (however much that is or is not true is irrelevant) does not preclude you from also having true choice and merely happening to choose whatever your creator predicted you to choose. Yes, it is astronomically unlikely... for an imperfect being to do. But anything that is capital-G God, by definition, is an apex existence. Perfect. Infinite ability.To make a very modern example out of it, imagine making a Minecraft world from a random seed, but because you know the noise algorithms in your head, you can 100% predict what each block will be as you arrive at it. You did not choose what each block is. You merely set the initial conditions and yet can know, omnisciently, with 100% accuracy, what each block will be. That does not mean you are deigning, declaring, or choosing what each block is. That is simply not how the logic flows.
>>93177411>anything that is capital-G God, by definition, is an apex existence. Perfect. Infinite ability.At that point, throw logic out the window because omnipotence.>imagine making a Minecraft world from a random seed, but because you know the noise algorithms in your head, you can 100% predict what each block will be as you arrive at it. You did not choose what each block is. You merely set the initial conditions and yet can know, omnisciently, with 100% accuracy, what each block will be. That does not mean you are deigning, declaring, or choosing what each block is. That is simply not how the logic flows.This is just a long winded way of saying God maybe chose to not know everything for whatever reasons, which would make him not omniscient (unless the above). Major cope.Anyway, whatever, my interest in this has passed.
>>93169182>Why do they all have big boobs?Civilization.>Do we have any younger party members?Yeah. The youngest party member you can recruit in the CYOA is 15, since that is the age needed to volunteer for the Marshal Forces.>>93172421>>93172710>>93172796>Are you going to elaborate on what you mean by this? What drawbacks? What power-up do we get? And what kind of waifu do we get?The drawback is that if you want to keep relying on power of the divines, you will need to fulfill their commandment which is related to their nature. For example, one divine beast represents nature Consumption (Pic Related) (The actual impulsive need/desire to eat and general overindulgence) for her Commandment, you basically need to feed her what she asks. You can't just go to the grocery store, throw a steak on the grill, and then toss it on a plate in front of her. She'll still eat it, but that's not what she wants from you. You'll have to spice-it up, if she wants something specific (Ex: Dragon), you'll have to go find a Dragon, shoot it down from the sky, rip out its wings, kill it, then cut off the Round of the beast, then prepare it and turn it into a gourmet meal with some kind of side dishes and show for her to enjoy while eating. There is also a chance she might ask for something special like preparing an innocent child's heart as a refined meal in a ritual as a sign of continued devotion to her. In return for doing her tasks, not only do you get her as a Summon you also get her power to devour anything, literally just bite it out of reality or "eat" anything in range to place them in a series of endless bottomless pocket-dimensions stomachs that can store anything without any form degradation.
>>93177670They will be like most waifus, where you'll take them based on whether they resonate with you or not. I still see no reason to shelve them.
>>93174920Entropist was too powerful
>too powerful>failed to kill even ancient neverever
>too powerful>only ever mentioned for shitposting purposes
>>93177670>you will need to fulfill their commandment which is related to their nature.Sounds pretty fun, as long as there's a decent enough amount of beasts with different contracts (so even if they're fairly extreme, there's at least one that you might find it worth it to do.). The idea of keeping some sort of absurd Commandment for power is enticing so it would be neat to have that as an option(or maybe i'm just a chuuni who enjoyed avesta of black and white).
>>93174551There's that neat line-node your-soul's-been-sold demon one with a soul-broker tree splitting off the general taboo/"radical freedom" feeding, but I can't find it.
Finished up the first page of my new psychotically-lewd-yet-inexplicably-worksafe CYOA. Dropping it as a WIP for feedback, since it's more-or-less enough to give you a firm idea of what it's about and a taste of the rest of the options.Balancing has not happened as of now, so ignore specific numerical values. With the vast amount of space each magical girl entry takes up, it wouldn't surprise me if this ended up being like five pages long, but we'll see. It definitely won't be done any time in the next couple weeks.
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>>93179225absolutely horrid. roshitanon has learned nothing
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>>93176952Firstly, there are already plenty of evil acts we can't choose to do, so by this logic being good already has no meaning.Secondly, this doesn't solve the problem of natural evil. There are plenty of bad things in this world that don't happen as a result of human choice.Thirdly, God already has to pick and choose which humans he's going to create, and he already knows exactly how each of them is going to turn out. He could very easily just create more Gandhi's and less Hitlers for instance.Finally, God already mind controlled a dude to do evil in the bible. He literally admitted to creating evil.
>>93179225how am i supposed to feel about this?
>>93176793I think it might be better to drop some of the mobility powers to get mental defences.
>>93177670Hey Italics, still looking forward to Ecclesiastes - think you could tell me about far right in >>93168536. I need to know about her.
>>93179225btg-shit so no
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>>93177411I actually agree with your position but that argument doesn't make any sense.>You don't believe a created world has free will?>Just imagine a created world. Logically it should have free will, right?>QEDInstead of hypotheticals, let's start with examining what makes a choice a choice. And what properties in the world you think would dequalify it.
>>93177670don't shelve them i wanna go eat with hungy cunny
>>93179901That comes from Potential points. I should have included them. But yes, I see your meaning.
