The One Ring is defining this PT.

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>>93191488
digits
here is Harold McNeill to celebrate

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1st for Toby

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here is gatherer number 1488 for good measure

>>93191504
>Here's that horror set I was talking about

>>93191488
>create a tapped colorless land token

Why does it need to specify colorless? It's a land.

>>93191504
What is this monsters inc bullshit?

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>>93191488
Duskmourn already a failure
Or Bloomburrow rise or we all fall in 2024
Good card against life gain btw

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>>93191488
This will be a good thread

BEANERS, TRANSLATE

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>>93191488
Reminder don't believe in Mark Bullshit, Chainsaw, TV and this atrocious stuff >>93191504 in game about fantasy

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Duskmourn will sell worse than MKM and will nevre happen again
Kinoburrow waiting room
LITTLE GUY KINO

>>93191533
>2012 was 50 years ago

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>>93191542
>Higher toughness
>Gains life
The powercreep is actually insane on this one.

>>93191557
this card wouldve been an uncommon 10 years ago it is a little admittedly 'pushed' that hes at common thuogh

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>>93191542
>this shitty theme park set will not sell
>BUY THIS OTHER SHITTY THEME PARK SET THOUGH!!

>>93191520
Mono red is back on the menu in all formats, except vintage and legacy, those formats are too far gone

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>>93191488
i like duskmourn, i hope the set succeed because i like the theme and the lore unlike any other set this year.

>>93191567
yep
duskmourn is controversial and comes out only a fucking month after the previous standard set
people wont buy it

>>93191542
>Kinoburrow waiting room

Your knockoff Redwall set is gonna be filled with gay animals and garbage mechanics

>>93191567
Where did you find this picture of me (on the other end of the phone)?

>>93191567
That's unfortunately how it works.
Cowboy themepark sold very well.
Clue themepark didn't.

>>93191569
>old aminatou
do not want

>>93191581
dont care
gonna play 1000 drafts

>>93191594
>OTJ sold well
Proof? Also... For real people swallowed that?

>>93191596
Why?

>>93191533
>chainsaws, mecha, cyberpunk NotJapan, magic thunder handheld cannons, cars, sky scrapers, and 1980s horror shit
Ok
>early guns that existed in the 15th and 16th century
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THAT'S ANTI-FANTASY

>>93191569
I would like it if it weren’t for all the 80s clothes and tech.

>>93191569
who is the moth chad? also why rakdos always the best?

>>93191595
She's like teenage at most. Or maybe young adult. Unclear. This might technically be her debut into canon, if she's actually in the set's story at all, and not just in the commander decks because why not. I do wonder if that means Zimone, Winter (the twink guy) and Valgavoth will have two cards, one for the normal set and one for Commander decks.

>>93191602
Don't you know? Every set is the best selling set in the history of magic.

>>93191504
The lore is that "beasties" are decomposing, but wear masks to hide it, and attempting to remove a mask makes it lash out. I hope that makes little Timmy here an exception.

>>93191604
cute little guys

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>>93191594
>Cowboy themepark sold very well.
only because it had like 3 bonus sheets with staples

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>>93191602
People who bought it didnt care for the setting or themes or how ridiculous it looked. It had powerful cards and cashgrab Vault cards like Synthesizer (now currently free falling because affinity didnt end up being broken).

Gruul prowess had a powerful showing in the PT expect to spike

maro is an autistic nuguns libtard, you just found out?

>>93191622
Why not just get proxies with cute animal art instead?

If you Inverse Polarity to steal your opponent's Ring, you don't get protection when it enters right? You didn't cast it, your opponent did.

>>93191638
i want new cards that do new things
cute guy proxies would be cool too though
looking forward to special guests

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>>93191568
mono red is currently a very good deck in legacy

>>93191569
>>93191611
I liked every non-human card so far, specially the one in the OP

>>93191646
yes PT watcher chan

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>>93191520
People losing their shit over this card is hilarious. Is it good? Absolutely. It is playable? For sure. It is going to "OMG RUIN STANDARD AND EDH AND MY ENTIRE LIFE FUCK THIS GAME IN PARTICULAR"? People (read: new / bad players) act like life gain is some sacred cow...

>>93191649
You said earlier you don't care if it will have garbage mechanics. You don't care if they're bad cards as long as they have cute animals on them?

>>93191568
>except vintage and legacy
mono red stompy is a 20 year old deck that's still competitive in legacy

>>93191672
in most applications it's a 3/3 haste
against amalia in pioneer it ends the game
I'm in favour of it

>>93191612
The moth is Valgavoth, the demon ruler of Duskmourn.

>>93191619
(Due to how our suppliers buy more of each set because we print more each time. Oh wait - we don't account for how much those suppliers sell to stores and customers? Oops...)

>>93191520
LMFAO this card is great. Feldon’s new big bro in standard. Still kinda hating duskmourn’s whole aesthetic though, it’s no more a “horror set” than Kamigawa
>>93191581
>and that’s a bad thing!!

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>>93191569
I need to see more because there are some nice art that could lead to cool cards like pic related and then trash from the 80' or cute shining animals. Need to know and see what this set can truly deliver and the final power level obviously.

>>93191673
i didnt say that
i will be upset if the set is not mechanically fun/sound
i still mostly want redwall kino though

>>93191699
>and that’s a bad thing!!

Yes, I think garbage mechanics are a bad thing. A controversial opinion among Magic players these days, I know.

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>>93191520
>>93191672
Lifegain bros... i don't feel so good

>>93191685
if we dont get a set card of that dude i will be very dissapointed

>>93191710
update
just checked
i did say that
disregard, i suck cocks

>>93191710
So you'll be upset, but you'll still give them your money?

>>93191728
>you'll give them your money
not too much, i will play a paper prerelease and maybe a draft, but i will mostly be f2ping my limited on arena

>>93191724
You know what, I respect the honesty.

>>93191681
Exactly my point. Its a 3/3 haste that will often trade for two creatures (which is good, and playable but not HOLY FUCK in any way).

>>93191520
>Ends Amalia
>Ends Angels
>Ends any Heliod shit
>Ends Sheoldred or cat bullshit
>Ends the Helix adventage
I have never been so glad to read "For the rest of thr game" in a card. This dude is my new best friendo.

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Holy fuck Tomasz lookin ZESTY. This is a man who is good with colours.

>>93191722
He will probably be a giant overcosted commander card anyway.

>>93191722
I feel like, given him, Zimone and that Winter guy are all mentioned as being in the story, it'd be weird if they didn't have set cards. But then again, commander decks have had story characters before. See Clavileno, who was in LCI's story but only existed in cards in the precons.

>>93191760
jund 4 casting cost

>>93191504
>there are people who expected modern wizards to do an actual horror set.

what is going on on the PT stream, whats the issue
is he asking if he can chord for drannith in response to cascade trigger?
yes, nigga

>>93191757
THIS ZESTY FUCKER GOT THE PEN SPINS DOWN TOO DAAAAAMN

Lol, did they shorten etb to just e? Imprecise. The card could enter my hand, my graveyard.....my anus

I've accepted all other language changes, like mana pool and exile, but this one irks me. Seems childodh.

>>93191816
>My anus
Uuh.

>>93191757
The dude he's playing against looks like he hasn't slept or seen the sun in 10 years

>>93191822
Meanwhile all the pictures in Tomasz's front room are all perfectly straight. That is a man who is on first name terms with his barber.

>>93191816
i know you started playing a month ago, but absolutely nowhere in mtg the words "enters the hand" or "enters the graveyard" appear

>>93191755
>3 mana
>no flying
>no trample
Nah, it's unplayable shit

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I like the furry JaceTMS, but I am a biased furry. It is a shame this is an unplayable card in 2024.

>>93191901
Why would you need trample/flying when your objective against those decks is literally the "never gain life on my sight faggot"? He is not a SSS, he is a permanent living roiling.

>>93191844
The grammar feels completely wrong for the language we've come to expect from card templating. They originally changed it to battlefield from the elegant "play" for flavor reasons.....so now we don't need flavor? is this a result of the extended universe shit, perhaps?

>>93191933
They're putting effort into cutting words off cards because they've realised that cards have too many words, but at the same time they won't just STOP PUTTING WORDS ON FUCKING CARDS.

Lmao the tranny Chink put his pronounces as it/its. Wonder if the crew are gonna do everything they can do not put him on camera so the commentators don't have to walk on eggshells for 20 minutes.

>>93192004
that would be a heckin lack of representation
tantamount to federal crime

i told you fuckers it would be eldrazi tron but noooo

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If I pay x1 Mountain for "Creatures you control gain haste until end of turn", can you then attack with a modified creature, pay his ability to create a dragon, then subsequently declare that dragon as an attacker in the same turn?

>>93192031
Nadu and Devourer were my picks for best cards in the set and to be quite desu I think I fucking nailed it.

>>93192031
>Faggot anon still believes the final will be not Nadu vs Ruby
Anon?

>>93192033
No, attackers are declared simultaneously and you can't declare more afterwards even if it hasn't progressed to the next step of combat.

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how many rounds of constructed today? 9?
>>93192033
>pay 1x Mountain
you are paying red mana, not a 'mountain', unironically not being mean I did the same thing and associated mana symbols = land types when I first started
anything that produces Red mana can pay that, not just basic mountains
>can you then attack with a modified creature, pay his ability to create a dragon, then subsequently declare that dragon as an attacker in the same turn?
no, for several reasons
you can only declare attackers once per combat, once you have said 'these creatures are attacking' you cant add more creatures, only tokens that make creatures 'tapped and attacking' will do that, because it specifically puts them in attacking already
Even if you got another combat step with some other card, you still couldn't because the dragon won't have haste
the top ability is not a blanket effect that applies to you for the whole turn, it gives every creature on your board at the time of the ability resolving Haste individually, cards granting abilities basically add it to the effected creature's textbox, this one just adds it to every creature on the board at the time

>>93192063
>>93192068
Ok I kind of figured. The haste effect only grants it to creatures already on the field then at the time of activating, right?

>>93192089
at the time of resolving, specifically
abilities and spells use this thing called the stack, they exist in a limbo of trying to apply to the game before they actually do, so that they can be responded to by instants or other abilities, this is the basis of how counterspells are allowed to work
if someone removes a creature on your board before the haste ability resolves, it obviously won't get haste
same though for if they tap it or something else, it'll get haste but will be tapped and can't attack
remember/note abilities exist independently from the creatures, too. they cant kill your goro goro in response and 'counter' the ability, it will still resolve without him

>>93192057
There are only 3 ruby lists in the top 64.
If anything it'll probably be either a Nadu mirror or Nadu vs Mono B in the finals.

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>>93192095
hebe dina.......

>>93192106
Where are you getting the lists?

>>93192033
No, the declare attackers phase would be over by the time the dragon entered.

>>93191568
Ive been running mono-red in legacy since 06.

No way this stays legal for too long. SOMETHING will get hit, probably Springheart Nantuko.

>>93192118
melee.gg search for active tournaments and protour mh3.

>>93191788
They are.
The horrifying thing is the set itself, not the setting.

>>93191568
The real question is, just like Nykthos, what we should do to kill RDW once and forever? Is by far the worst archetype since forever.

>>93192134
If anything Shuko will get hit.

>>93192149
"Ban Shuko!"
...in a deck that runs Chord for Outrider...

>>93192134
>2024
>banning something from a newly released set

>>93192140
>Nadu
>Etron
>Scam
Wow cool format wizards!

MTG foundation is alchemy bullshit, ALL CARDS in standard should rotate in time, WITHOUT EXCEPCION

>>93192134
>No way this stays legal.- He said
>Remember Scam.- I replied
According to our data, all formats all healthy. We will keep monitoring problematic decks :^)

>>93192157
The difference is that it's much more difficult to get two 3-cost creatures online than a 1 mana artifact.
With Shuko you can naturally play it t1 or 2 or fetch it with saga, if you have to use your chord or pact to search for outrider you wont have it for Nadu.
It will definetly delay the deck and setting the whole thing back even one turn will be enough for slower decks to catch up with their hate pieces or gameplan.

>>93192157
Even if they ban all free equips Nadu will just warp to Nadu Hammer becausr puresteel paladin lmoa

>>93191504
what beyond universe is this?

>>93192149
>>93192157
The issue with banning Shuko is it risks killing the entire deck. While Nantuko is a MH3 card, banning it wouldn't kill sales of Nadu while banning Shuko would kill sales of both Nadu and Nantuko. What else could you really ban from the deck? Wall of fucking Roots?

>>93192178
Grief is mythic, hard moneymaker to leverage since its $20+. Nadu is rare, could be banned more easily.

>>93192176
Someone wished on a Monkey's Paw for WotC to bring back core sets

>>93192181
Exactly my point. Shuko isn't the problem, Nadu is. You can morph the deck into tons of different permutations to achieve the same goal.

>>93192187
The fuck? Nadu and Nantuko are both playable outside of comboing with Shuko.

>>93192190
Bowmasters is a rare too anon, you see anything that points to a future ban of such card? Or you will say Bowmasters is fine?

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>>93190077
my thoughts exactly, once the first edition of FDN rotates, people will have a bunch of cards that probably won't be good enough for the power level of 2029 pioneer, and a new format will be overdue
I'll update my pic with DSK and FDN once scryfall is up, include sets until 2029 and maybe reconsider the starting point, 2020 to 2029 is a huge card pool, the format's starting point will likely be in 2021 or 2022

>>93192220
Pioneer 2 aka Intrepid will be great, lads.

>>93192216
Im focusing more on the price on the secondary market than the rarity, it just so happens grief was a $30 mythic. How much is bowmasters? More than $25? Harder for them to ban a cashgrab. Nadu is 18 at most. If this PT somehow ends up nadu vs nadu grand finals, thats the final nail in this.

>>93192237
Pioneer 2 aka Frontier

Is Gruul Prowess dead? Im rooting for it.

>>93192095
Dina doesn’t have glasses, so she can’t be the Velma.

>>93192294
No, right now it's looking like
>Cracked
Nadu
>T1
Etron, mono-b
>T2
Prowess, jeskai control/wizards, living end, energy
>Dead
Everything else

>>93192317
>T2
>living end
godbless

>Llanowar Elf (NOT Elvish Mystic) in Standard for 5 years
>Non-Blacked Llanowar Elf on Arena
We are so back

>>93192365
Watch it have suspicious 3 color legendaries for some reason because everything cant dtop being cumhander now

So where the FUCK is Ruby Storm? It hasn't been on camera all day.

>>93192375
You only see the decks that are winning.

How the fuck is this guy 5-2 when he's missing all his guide triggers.

>>93191788
This is a commander card.

>>93192375
Ruby storm got washed by the sea of mono-B scams and nadu.

>>93192375
Turns out storm is an easy archetype to hate on. Even even Budde got washed playing it then it clearly wasn't a good deck for this metagame.

>>93192375
Storm, like all the boogeyman decks (affinity, dredge) instantly folds when people get reminded of its existence.

>>93192413
I imagine Ruby Storm has been caught in the crossfire of people being Damping Sphere to hate on Tron. You could slap 4x Sphere in your board for this event and sleep easy at night.

>>93191602
OTJ was Standard Horizons. It powercrept the hell out of Standard and caused an early soft rotation, because WotC couldn't just wait a few months longer to do the regular rotation. Of course it sold well.

>>93192144
>metatextual horror
They must have gone to an expensive school to learn such brilliant artistic techniques! Aren't the Creatives at WotC so smart?
I love modern MtG now!

>>93192413
Feels bad because Dredge, Ruby Storm and Affinity are actually fun to play and can have success... But i guess the Ring archetypes, Necrodominance APOLOGIZE and Bird were too much

Crabvinebros...

Which colours are Eldrazi sitting right now? U, RG, just G?

>>93192459
I will play Gruul Prowess after this, its the only archetype I like from this field.

Pretty gross that Tron can just turn into a prison deck.

>>93192459
But I thought necro was supposed to be shit in Modern???

>>93192465
I cry, Dredge bros was our last chance to have a good deck....

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Free him

NADU MIRROR WHAT AN EXCITING MAT...ZZzzZZzzz
Seriously Memedern fags are the most cucked playerbase, always dealing with the worst shit

They're gonna ban Shuko. It's gonna be a Hogaak situation all over again.

>>93192413
Affinity is so fun now with Kozilek's I just wish it wasn't the easiest archetype to just "lol, lmao" out of the format

>>93192507
Banning Shuko would be like banning Deceiver Exarch to make Twin weaker.

>>93192468
Colorless.

>>93192536
Sounds about right for modern WotC

>>93192444
It did? It doesn't feel like I see any cards from it that often, besides SSS. But I'm new and only play in arena so I could be wrong

>>93192571
To be desu it was a set with a ton of valuable reprints from that gay border shit.

They have to fast forward it lmfao

>Necropotence of all cards got outshine by a fucking commander bird

Now I understand
The game as we knew it was over long ago.

>>93192596
*outshone

It's Nadu summer baby

>>93192394
it has been a long fucking day anon, he went through a draft and has played like 11 rounds of magic
youd be forgetting shit too
>NUH UH NO I WOULDNT
ok, cool

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>We didn't realise equipment would activate Nadu's triggered ability
Only way they would have thought Nadu was fine

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Its ogre

Kill Nadu WotC
Kill it now
This is not good in any way. Is Uro again.

I think they should print anti-graveyard hate
"Spells or abilities your opponent control cannot make cards in your graveyard leave."

>>93192701
Leave what

>>93192703
The graveyard?

>>93192694
It's more like Hogaak than Uro. Uro drew games out by shitting out value, while Nadu ends the game on the spot.

Frankly embarrassing that they had to ruin a great plane design like Duskmourn with the shitty 80's horror stuff. Every set nowadays has to be "the cowboy set" or the "detective set" or the "slasher film set." It's all reddit marvel slop.

>>93192703
If we don't need to specify "enters", why should we specify "leaves"?

WotC fucking loves warping formats with 3cmc commander bait

>>93192728
They actively have stated they won't be changing 'leaves the battlefield' because things DO 'leave' multiple zones, but nothing 'enters' anywhere but the battlefield.

>>93192725
What "great plane design" was there to ruin? The 80s shit is retarded, but I don't know what was so great about "Innistrad but everything is inside a house"

>>93192745
Give it a couple years and they'll trim that wording down

>>93192725
>>93192751
The set was pitched as 80s horror. I don't think they 'ruined' anything, this was the intent from the get-go.

>>93192751
I'm a fan of the never ending house dungeon. I like planes that are more abstract and weird as opposed to just themed worlds.

>>93192719
>on the spot
I wish it did. Some of the other routes not involving springheart nantuko has you flipping through the deck and you cant shortcut it since theres no guarantee.

>>93192768
It was still just gonna be a themed world no matter what. It was just gonna be an entire plane dedicated to the Haunted House attraction in the theme park. Could've set it on a cursed never ending mansion on any plane and it would be functionally identical.

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>Let's just make Angels t1
For what reason?

>>93192770
I should say it ends it on that turn (generally). The point is that it's more of a combo thing, compared to Uro being a grinding value machine.

>>93192751
Innistrad was cool

>>93192691
New Eldrazi winter they said
New Tron is tier 0 they said
Black Scam gonna dominate the meta again they said

>>93192791
Angels is dead and a shitty anthem wont revive it

>>93192791
Apparently DSK is gonna have a cycle of Leylines too. So that's fun.

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>>93192804
legacy "mull for serra sanctum" leyline tribal T1 soon

>>93192791
Not sure it'll actually make that much of a difference. Doesn't help you against removal/wipes, which is your real problem with angels.

>>93192798
To be fair black scam is doing pretty well

>>93192791
>>93191520

>Laughs in never gaining life again

>>93192690
They design for commander anon, they design cards based on the fact there will be 3 other players to deal with them.

>>93192725
Yeah, giant spooky house plane is already a cool unique enough theme, why did they ruin it with hearthstone costume bullshit?

>>93192791
This is such stupid design space for a card. What's the point of giving people random proactive buffs for free if they happened to win the mulligan lottery? I guarantee the red one is going to be even dumber than facing T1 Kumano.

I fucking hate bowmasters, Ragavan and the one ring.

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Sooooo Grief, Bowmasters and black in general keep being horrible and miserable to play
The new bird as everyone said is utterly busted
There is no hope for Tron leaving
What you think of Modern after MH3 anons?

I would like to remind you good gentlemen that Final Fantasy and Marvel are coming in 2025 to further rotate every format they're legal in.

>>93192791
Should have made it give you an +1 energy counter when you can energy to.

>>93192887
It's not enough
We gotta accelerate

>>93192881
>What you think of Modern after MH3 anons?
I'm gonna stick to living end until the deck is unplayable

>>93192887
How more can they rape Modern at this point? The format is desecrated already

>win a couple drafts this week
>can now challenge to win £300 worth of MH3 packs in arena
nice. let's see how we go.

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>>93192887
Tifa will save modern

>>93191520
Good in standard worthless in modern and legacy.

>>93192957
>turns your Unholy Heat into a Lightning Bolt for 6
I'm not saying its good, but its something.

>>93192912
>The format is desecrated already
this is what people genuinely thought back in 2019 when modern horizons 1 came out, and here we are, almost 5 years later

>>93192957
In Pioneer i can assure you will see play even if as sideboard

>>93191513
There is no rule that says lands are colorless, it's just that most lands printed happen to be colorless (Dryad Arbor is an exception).

>>93191488
>Invent new keyword that's 98% similar to suspend when you could have just used suspend

I hate nu-WotC:

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>>93192926
She'll look as great as the Miku secret lair did :DDD

>>93193031
It's similar to suspend but it's hardly 98%.

>>93193031
This but for disguise and morph

>>93193031
they could've not used suspend for >>93191488, even if you changed the etb to "when you suspend this" you wouldn't get the enchantment in play which is important for delirium purposes considering this is meant to be played with bargain for example

Suspend is Kicker

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>>93192881
I'm loving it

>>93193108
>I remember some fags saying this set was "WEAK"
LOOOOOOOOL
LMAOOOOOOOOOO even

>>93192868
Leylines have always been a horrible, unfun concept that never should have existed, just like Companion and Eminence.

everybody packed hard ruby storm hate in the SB. Nothing against nadu.

>>93193195
Pretty sad indeed is like go ready for Phoenix and not take hate against Vampires... Oh wait....

>>93193195
What do you use to hate on Nadu anyway? Pithing Needle on Shuko?

It's very cute how the Spirited Companion barks in time to the beat in the Waiting for the stream screen on the PlayMtG YouTube screen of the PT.

>>93193221
Edicts can work, if you hit them with it before they're able to get anything else on the field.

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>cards in hand, anon?
>5
>opponent does something, I do nothing
>cards in hand, anon?
>5
>opponent takes 30 seconds to think
>I sit there patiently
>cards in hand, anon?

Tipple's banter with her opponents is always so lovely :3

>>93192852
But it's over almost immediately once Nadu happens
Getting card advantage of 6+ on the turn you play Nadu is unfair in all formats

>>93193265
ok but how many cards you have in hand right now anon

>>93192691
One Ring has to go for format diversity

Ban Nadu.
Simple as.

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will you be a good goyim and buy the ultra super bundle?

>>93193290
Cancel modern and reprint ABU duals

>>93193301
What's in it?

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>>93193290
Sorry, best I can do is a Shuko ban
>Why can't you ban Nadu?
We're monitoring the situation. All the macro archetypes are playable. The fornat has all the tools to deal with it. We're waiting to see how the next set effects the meta. Our data suggests that the win rates aren't egregious. We don't want to disrupt upcoming competitive events.

>>93193290
Unban everything. Let it be no bans modern for at least 2 months then re-ban accordingly.

>>93193290
>Banning a card they released 2 weeks ago
Not gonna happen famalam

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>1 month period between bloomburrow release and duskmourne

>>93193312
2 Collector Boosters
6 Play Boosters
20 Traditional Foil Full-Art Manor Lands
1 out of 3 Borderless promo card
1 out of 3 Movie Poster card
3 double-sided movie posters
1 deck box
1 glow-in-the-dark Spindown life counter

>>93191567
Furries are the most easy to please demographic
If there's a dog, they will buy it

>>93193331
Only $179.99 + tax!

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>>93193301
>a TV

>>93193329
I assume it's to make some room to give Foundations a chance to exist because that's also going into Standard, but that feels... Meh. At least there's a decent gap between Duskmourn and Death Race.

>>93193301
>no technology, that's not what this game about artifacts is about >:(
>IRL 80s tv for packaging btw :)

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>>93193329
Too much product, I just do draft/pre release and buy the box for drafting once it goes down to sub 90€

>>93193329
don't forget that assassin's creed is releasing next month
also foundation is releasing in november
did you know jumpstart 2025 is coming in december?
return to tarkir should probably be out by late january

>>93193353
Foundations will have to have some real great fucking value in it, as it's all reprints.

>>93193316
This reads exactly as Mark in his WotC charades and communications!
I would punch your face so hard...

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>Nadu - ok
>Twin - bad

>>931932901
with what PurPose, modern is too broken to be fixed, a better idea is lets just unban everything

>>93193371
So they are just moving to a monthly release schedule?

>>93193329
Remember last year when they were getting criticized by Bank of America and shit for releasing too much product and oversaturating their release schedule? I guess they took it as a challenge.

wotc will learn their lesson and we'll be back to 2018 magic again.. you'll see...

>>93193329
How they expect people to keep this rythm? I mean obviously you must discard some formats like Memedern but still how a Standard player can keep a rythm of 3 products in 4 months?

>>93193380
>Nadu
Ok
>Uro
Ban >:(
>Faithless Looting
Ban >:(
>Yoribro
Ban >:(

>>93193389
Probably 10% of players who buy 90% of product and the rest buy singles from the 10%.
Or things being cheaper/free on arena makes it so they need to release more prosuct to keep up with arena whales demand.

>>93193383
>moving to
that's basically how it has been since 2022 if you've been paying attention

>>93193389
You simply can't. And Pioneer Masters, Innistrad Remaster, Death race set

Get hyped, Buy, Dont ask, repeat.

>>93193389
They don't care about Standard players. Everything is geared towards limited and EDH, who they seem to believe have a much higher tolerance for rapid releases.

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>>93193377
It's not all reprints, though? This is new, for example.

LSV is such a fat fuck now.

>>93193377
Hahaha you reslly think they will wsste the chance to squeeze those Arena sheckels? Naive, anon.

>>93193443
>now

>>93193443
his wife's a babe, though, so that's all that really matters.

>>93192725
I didn't realize this was pitched as an 80s horror set. Looking at people defending the TV screens and Monsters Inc. shit because "Urza used technology so TVs and chainsaws are fine in a mainline set" logic is insane. The game has been dead for years but this shit is just so sad.

What does the bracket look like right now? Is the bird actually crushing everyone or are you all just whinging?

>>93193458
I am ripped as fuck and my wife is ugly.
>low maintenance
>kind and devoted
>amazing cook
Take the uglypill. "If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life, never make a pretty woman your wife"

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>>93193464

>>93193463
I frankly don't care. Magic is allowed to try and push the boundaries. I dunno if it'll succeed, but judging it this harshly for daring to literally anything besides various flavours of medieval fantasy seems silly.

>>93193474
How's the sex?

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how could anyone think this card is even remotely okay to print knowing a high stakes event was around the corner
top was banned for less

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>It's a Riley and Mani match

>>93193489
UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Its ok because it sells well!

>>93193488
Used to be great: passionate and she always put on a show to compensate for her grim countenance. Nowadays (been married for 12 years) it's still great, but quite seldom.

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>>93191504
I stopped playing and following Magic some time around the release of the 2019 core set. Since then, there's been cyberpunk ninjas piloting mechs, 1930 gangsters driving cars, and wild west cowboys using !guns. Now they're going to release a set full of people using walkie-talkies, headphones, TV screens and chainsaws.

What the fuck happened to Magic? I thought it was supposed to be fantasy, why the hell have they been throwing in all of this future/modern tech? Are they finally out of ideas?

>>93193017
>111.3. [...] A token doesn't have any characteristics not defined by the spell or ability that created it.
>109.3. An object's characteristics are name, mana cost, color, color indicator, card type, subtype, supertype, rules text, abilities, power, toughness, loyalty, defense, hand modifier, and life modifier. [...]
>105.1. There are five colors in the Magic game: white, blue, black, red, and green.
105.4. [...] "Multicolored" is not a color. Neither is "colorless."
Colorless isn't a characteristic so text asserting a token is colorless is essentially reminder text. They're only colorless by dint of not having a color.

>>93193489
Real MtG is digital now.

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>>93193511
Its hard being creative i guess. Just turn a theme into a plane and fill it up with characters from past sets. Cant wait for the starship troopers plane

>>93193511
Infinite multiverse not having tech makes less sense than it having tech, I guess. Also trying to play in different genre spaces because there's only so many spaces Magic can do.

>>93193511
No technology anon Mark says so >>93191533

>>93193537
Yeah, it's mostly done just to make sure newer players know it's colorless for whatever reason it might need to be known. They already have to struggle to teach people lands are colorless as-is.

>>93193487
Magic is High Fantasy, not Medieval Fantasy. The haunted house, plane-collapsed-by-a-demon stuff is High Fantasty. The 1980s dressing isn't.

>>93193511
When your parent's company ONLY source of real money is Magic the Gathering, you have to churn out shit 10x faster than usual, with less thought, effort and passion.

>>93193511
>Are they finally out of ideas?

Yeah, basically. The only half decent new plane they've done was Eldraine, which was basically "what if we stapled together Grimms' Fairy Tales and King Arthur".

>>93193557
Magic is magical. That's the only real requirement they've stuck to. Sci-fi and modern magitech is still magical, even if there's relatively 'mundane' variants alongside.

>>93193511
The people driving the game want theme parks and don't want to work too hard at designing what are effectively disposable settings. Just give it a top-down theme and be done with it. The churn of set-to-set is so quick that they can't spend their time developing anything that seriously or giving it a serious identity beyond the ____ set.

>>93193487
not that anon, but what i am kind of miffed by is how long magic stuck to strict style guides and making sure magic WAS fantasy, to the point where things like guns were not allowed and still aren't (no, that shit from thunder junction does not count), BUT we can now get CRT screens. no guns, though.

>>93193221
pithing needle shuko, disrupter flute shuko, brain stone nadu, dismember,

>>93193586
I personally am not that attached to Magic having to be fantasy as much I want it to be magic-oriented. I am still very much on the side of "not having guns is just fucking stupid at this point" though. It feels weirder to not have them, even in some more fantastical variant.

>still have dredge, elves, U Tron from pre MH2 days
>They all suck
>Watch PT
>Field is uninteresting as fuck
It just makes me want to play my pet decks even more, I hate this meta.

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Bird will be with us until hes banned

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>>93191520
>Just hard shuts down the only thing White is allowed to do
Extremely unbased and poor card design.

>>93193641
Yes anon that's the point.
It should be banned after this PT so he can leave us and the format free.

>>93193643
>Destroying Amalia
Only for that is already the best card of the last sets

>>93193643
you're in white, just swords it

>"This [MH3] is the Magic player's set!"
Fucking lmao

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>>93193682
>Just draw the out
This isn't Yugioh

>>93193643
Hard color hate is based and classic Magic pilled thoughbeit

>>93193643
>The only thing
>Turn 1 initiate
>Turn 2 Thalia
>Turn 3 Adeline
Game ends, nice bro!

>>93193709
>This isn't Yugioh
Yes it is. has been for a while now.

>>93193709
>>93193750
Yugi is sometimes more fair LUL

>>93191520
Stigma Lasher designed this card

>>93193709
Extended formats have been "draw the out" for a decade, bitch. Hope you have an instant speed answer to respond to Twin being cast.

>>93191520
Who cares about the anti-lifegain? This is just an insane 2-for-1 against any deck playing creatures without b/w removal. Once again you are not permitted to play midrange without splashing black.

>>93193487
>Magic is allowed to try and push the boundaries
Sure. But it should do so by pushing the boundaries AT THE ACTUAL BOUNDARIES, rather than leaping across them by a century or more at a time. Work your way there so that you can get a feel for what does and doesn’t fly, and then you can walk those things back easily while continuing along the lines that did work.

>>93193487
shut up maro

>>93193804
Who’s Steve Lasher?

>>93193830
>Incrementalism is good actually, I want to be a boiling frog

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How hard will I be laughed at and judged for bringing an entirely set constructed deck to my LGS?

>>93193860
if it's a modern horizons set you'll probably be fine

At least hogaak was fun to play and required some finesse
Nadu is a miserable time all around and makes the game worse the instant he touches the board
I can't believe anyone doubted how strong this thing was going to be, the other MH3 decks are way stronger than the MH2 meta and Nadu stull stands hesds and shoulders above everything

>>93193830
Fantasy is no longer about exploring concepts. It's about painting a newer, slightly-different veneer of thin, gay paint over the same shit you've seen a million times. If you want a vision of the future, imagine a smug, ethnically-ambiguous fat woman in a variety of unrelated, increasingly garish and uninspired costumes. Forever.

>>93193863
It's Outlaws of Thunder Junction

>*holds up spork*
>Deep Analysis u ftw
>Reddit Mani and Reddit Riley go wild in the booth
So glad I watched the entire Draft coverage! Epic!

>>93191520
>for the rest of the game
Shit, didn't notice that first time around. No wonder people are seething over this

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>"The climate changed and the world suffered"
Faggot leftist woke shit. Fuck JotC

>>93193909
>Canada set symbol

Screaming Nemesis is just way, way too slow
It's 3 mana and needs something else to activate it's effect
There is no way that thing stops Amalia at all, Amalia can hit the combo on turn 3 consistently, a hate piece that needs combo pieces isn't good against that sort of clock

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He won.

>>93193858
Barring concrete proof that we live in the best of all possible worlds, we ought to seek to better the world. The best way to do that is cautiously, which means testing the waters in all directions and seeing which options offer true improvement. Overreaching stands to make it more difficult to return to an understood equilibrium, and so is to be avoided. But stagnation despite the existence of preferable alternatives is no better.

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>>93193909
>Climate change cards
Burn baby burn

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>>93193897
Remember when you had to put effort into ruining lifegain decks?

>>93193909
>5 mana for this
Wow. That's awful.

>>93194053
anon, it's a common. it won't see any play in constructed. but you WILL be happy to play it in limited.

I'm more upset that Standard will essentially take even longer to rotate.

Now there's going to foundation sets which will last 5+ years, and who's to say they won't just keep printing more foundation sets every year.

I really missed when standard would have only 6 sets on average. But now it's 5 sets a year, rotation allows more years, and some sets will be for even longer.

I guess I should just view standard as Pioneer lite

>>93192176
There are some cards I can understand always keeping in Standard like Duress or Shock, but Llanowar Elves ain't one of them. That card defines the meta around itself too much.

>>93193884
Can you post decklist? If it's standard it will be fine I guess. Just don't expect to win much.

>Tipple getting numerous feature matches despite it being only their second PT
Really gets the noggin joggin

>>93194067
I don't care. Even for a common, it's awful, and basing powerlevels off of rarity exists purely to feed retarded paypig shit and justify every mythic having a light novel attached to it, especially now that draft is dead.

>>93192095
The girl boss can count up to infinite, she deserves be there, she has the power of bad writing on her side.

>>93194053
>>93194067
There will be a way to make spells costs less, making it very good, is what I think this set will have, else it should be 3 mana.

>>93194069
>I guess I should just view standard as Pioneer lite
you should view standard as extended now

>>93192095
>muh jews

>>93193709
We were yugioh before the first gook dreamed yugioh into existence and we've only gotten more yugioh over time
We've even got anime bitches now to satisfy the AGP audience

It's only a matter of time until Bird gets rotated. We were in this exact same position with Monkey.

yfw when top 8 is 100% Nadu?

>>93194120
Yeah but monkey never got roasted

>>93194110
>>93192095
>already deleted
Jannies keeping an eagle eye out for wrongthink after last night, I see.

>>93194123
>Yeah but monkey never got roasted
Sopa de macaco?

>>93194120
>Bro just deal with it for 4 years

>>93194108
So if Standard is now Extended, then that makes Alchemy the new Standard? I'd unironically just play that but I hate that Lord of the Rings is legal in Alchemy.

>>93194120
>Nadi gets rotated
BY WHAT? Imagine the power level needed to do that, you'd need turn 2 win card that's extremely consistent.

>Carlson making a Wizards mandated reminder that 10 years ago Jund was 31% of the Modern leg of the PT therefore the Bird is nothing to worry about

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https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/105258
Top 16 going into day 2
Bant/4c Nadu - 8
RW(B) Energy -2
Necrodominance Scam - 2
UWR Control/Midrange - 2
RG Prowess - 1
E Tron - 1

>>93194120
The only way a combo deck rotates is if a faster or more resilient combo deck makes itself known
Add all the removal you want to the format, Nadu can still win and will still be around

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>>93194149

>>93194149
URWizardbros.... what went wrong?

>>93194149
OH NO NO NO NO BROS I BOUGHT MY RITUALS FOR 80 DOLLARS A PLAYSET

>>93194069
They've already stated the idea behind Foundations is it'll be reprinted every year without changing until 2029.

>>93194149
getting hogaak flashbacks right now

Nadu Summer

>>93194138
I would give alchemy a chance if it didn't cost like 90 mythic rare cards to make a deck that will rotate by the time the next alchemy set comes out

>>93194175
The highest placing ruby storm list so far is 5-3, 57th place
https://melee.gg/Decklist/View/411940
LSV is playing a slightly different list also 5-3 currently 66th
https://melee.gg/Decklist/View/411985

>>93194149
BIRD DOMINATION

Ruby Storm's biggest problem is that they literally can't beat this iteration of Tron. Trinisphere on one just fucks their shit up.
Unlike Nadu, which is a combo that doesn't rely on doscounts

Standard should never go beyond a powerlevel where Swordpoint Diplomacy is playable.

Remember when mmg were saying energy and ruby storm were better than nadu?

>>93194149
AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIII YOU SAID SHUKO WAS GOING TO BE A MEME

>>93194278
Those guys were still on the fake Thoracle lists pro players threw out there to put people off their track rather than the real shit (Bristley Bill, Endurance loops, Finale of Devastation)

>>93194149
>Necrodominance Scam - 2

Wtf, I thought Necrodominance was supposed to be a bad card in Modern

>>93194309
>another time mmg was wrong