Chaos Edition>SoB detachment previewhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/06/06/are-you-a-burn-everything-kind-of-battle-sister-or-a-penitent-zealot-find-out-in-codex-adepta-sororitas/>GSC detachment previewhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/06/05/building-a-better-brood-get-the-most-from-new-detachments-in-codex-genestealer-cults/>Balance Dataslate:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/06/20/warhammer-40000-metawatch-downloading-the-new-balance-dataslate/>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTL>Previous thread:>>93232130 >Thread Question:Which is the best god in 40K?
>>93235785>Which is the best god in 40K?Vashtorr
I'm so tired of all these AoS articles. I get new edition, but if dominion (which is still selling fast at my most of my LGSs) was any indication, no one really cares.
>>93235790>I don't think space pirates wearing space suits is a good ideaYarrr, ye be walkin the air lock for that, m80.
>Old thread only on Page 6I hope you know your father and I are very disappointed in you.
tranny throoder gets the rope
>>93235783I don't think of myself as old but I suppose I am. I actually got a game in last night that I'll post now but talked to some nice kids who were just getting into the hobby. I started at the tail end of 2ndGame last night was against a good buddy's raven guard. Normally I'm a mek player but now that bully boys has been tweaked I saw an opportunity to try it out without looking meta (plus I have a lot of painted nobs)
>>93235806They just feel too fancy to me.
>>93235812i'd probably go with imperial breachers with imperial insignia removedTheir undercoats kinda feel like pirate coats
>>93235785>Which is the best god in 40K?Me, the player
>>93235810Raven guard don't seem super strong but he wanted to make a marine army of almost all phobos armor, I think they came out very nice
>>93235822I know a lot of people here don't like phobos but I think it and gravis solves an issue the heresy had for a while where people assumed mark 6 was light armor and marks 2 and 3 were heavy.
>>93235805>I get new edition, but if dominion (which is still selling fast at my most of my LGSs) was any indication, no one really cares.They don't. Skaventide is Dominion all over again. AoS is already a dead game and Skaventide is just showing it even clearer that nobody gives a fuck about it. Their new edition has zero hype, their new box is flopping on all fronts, and the AoS team is scrambling to get more articles to try and drum up SOME attention, but they're failing miserably. Even that new Necromunda model got more hype and attention than the entire new AoS edition.We're looking at AoS's death throes. Hopefully it means more plastic and drvelopment time for 40k is coming in the next year or two.
>TQMalice or the Emperor as the meme answer, tzeentch as the real answer
>>93235805Really, what do you feel like you are missing out on right now because there isn't a new vapid and empty WarCom article about something from 40k?Are you dying for a community painted Genestealer Cults article?Do you really want a meta watch where the devs congratulate themselves on a job well done and say absolutely nothing?Maybe a new rumor engine with a closeup of a middle finger you can speculate about?
>>93235829>issue the heresy hadNot an issue.Nobody considered that an issue.
>>93235810Aw hell yeah I love finally seeing that big ass looted monolith in a game.
>>93235822I had 3x10 nobs (two trucks and a battlewagon), each with a warboss and a meganob squad with a megaboss in deep strike. In addition a full boys squad with a weirdboy, grots, and some lootas with a SAG.
>>93235849I am in the process of printing base expanders for my 25mm bases and then putting base materials on them. Fought it as long as I could but can't fight progress forever I suppose. Weirdboy I figured would allow me to hit whatever I needed. I SHOULD have deployed these guys further back
Khorne being the strongest god only really hashes out in BL books, and in fact I’m pretty sure there’s only like one videogame where someone Khornate is the final boss. Otherwise it’s usually Tzeentch, Nurgle, or some Undivided douche if Chaos is the main baddie. Why is it like this?
If the Alpha Legion has marines hidden in Loyalist chapters, and if more and more marines are crossing the rubicon primaris, wouldn't that mean that there's possibly some Primaris Alpha Legionaires?
>>93235872Khorne is dull
>>93235864editions ago I feel like I knew every stat line in the game, now I can't even tell you what basic marines do. Still, a lot of anti infantry from the looks of it
>>93235785>TQ
>>93235812What's so fancy about them? Similar style void suits are worn by regular ship crews. It's even got chain driven gears and bolted together joints like a 19th century diving suit. That's pretty crude. It's not some fancy scifi space suit, that's for sure. And it's just for the base. Slap in some alternative arms, guns, heads, and just rags, and they'll fit the part. If they just looked like a bunch of hobos in rags, how are they flying around in a space ship pirating, rather than getting executed against a wall by local enforcers?
>>93235878It's almost guaranteed that they would volunteer for it. The only problem is if the apothecaries doing the procedure would discover that their geneseed is not what they should be.
Speaking of space pirates, who are the best and worst space pirate factions in the setting?>Night Lords>Red Corsairs>Dark Eldar>Corsair Eldar>Freebootaz
>>93235810Jesus, it's not every day you see marines keeping up with the number of bodies that Orks have. Were they just a lot of phobos marine units or were they proxies for intercessors, etc.?
>>93235785gork and morkcanonically the smartest and strongest gods in the entirety of the setting
>>93235878>Alpha Legion on /40kg/ posting tons and tons of "fuck primaris" shit because they're going to get discovered when it's their turn to get upgraded
>>93235901I don't like much about NuLore but I do enjoy Gork and Mork being embarrassed about the current state of Orks
>>93235893So many chapters have trouble identifying who their geneseed progenitors are that I find it hard to believe they would recognize the difference between them. Otherwise no chapter would have an unknown lineage.
>>93235881raven guard got first turn. Deployment was a weird one where it was like 14" out on one side and 8" on the other half. 5 objectives with 3 being in no mans land. They surge up and the infiltrators get a cheeky charge on my boys. I did call my main waaagh to get my 5++
>>93235903Why would they be embarrassed?
>>93235785>TQThere is no God in 40k
>>93235911Too weak, not united.
>>93235785>Which is the best god in 40K?The one coming in 11th when Vashtorr ascends, giving us proper mechanical daemons.
>>93235894>No Rogue Traders They're pinnacle privateers in space, also surely theres a Votann League that are pirates
>>93235901Gork and mork need to get off their asses and rip khorne a new one while Ghaz fights angron for killing yarrick.Ghaz and Gork/Mork opening a can of Whoopass on their respective foes in physical and warp parallels would be so fucking cool
>>93235898both sides were WYSIWYG, he had a vindicare hiding in there too>>93235910battlewagon gets knocked down to 1 wound but isn't quite dead. Zzap gun does nothing as is tradition
>>93235898You can run a shitload of bodies as marines now. If you don’t take any vehicles at least.
>>93235913That's the Emperors lies.
>>93235920I am disappointed with how little fan art and memes there are about G&M dunking on Khorne
>>93235921boys are down to about 25% strength and the weirdboy fails da jump. battlewagon nobs come ot the rescue and murder all the rievers
>>93235921>all those beakiesWhat kit?
>>93235893>>93235906I wonder what would stop them from using "acquired" Geneseed of a Loyalist chapter. Training and indoctrinating the marine as an alpha legion marine then embedding them in the chapter. It's not the Geneseed that makes them loyal.Fuck if anything, imagine a covert mission to infiltrate and "hack" the machines that a chapter uses to brainwash the aspirants, so they become some sort of sleeper agents. (This would have to be a minor chapter because GW doesn't allow major chapters and characters to be fucked with)
>>93235931combat knives kill the battlewagon and the burnas pile out>>93235932haven't the foggiest, apologies
>>93235939>combat knives kill the battlewagon
>>93235932Considering they RG, I'd guess pic related from FW.
>>93235932They look like the standard beakie helmets in the HH MK6 kit
>>93235934Lots of chaos Legions steal loyalist geneseed for their own usage anyways because so much of their own has become corrupted and impotent from prolonged exposure to warp energies. Half the chaos warbands probably have loyalist Primarchs geneseed at this point.
>>93235878I would say there are definitely Primaris marines that are undercover/double agents of the Alpha Legion. How could there not be. There could be whole Primaris chapters made during the Indomitus Crusade that are actually controlled by the Alpha Legion
>>93235785Why is modern Chaos so boring bros?>practically no Minor Gods, spotlight has shifted entirely towards Big Four & Daemon Primarchs, no cool "Build Your Own Minor Demigod" subfaction rules>Undivided Daemons all but axed>Aetheric Dominions fluff is hanging by a thread but a little bit more relevant now with Vashtorr taking Malevolent Artifice>no Last Laer, Champion of Slaanesh, no Yu'Vath>no Xenarchs either>Chaos Metaphysics still poorly defined under the lazy guise of "i-it shouldn't make sense!" aside from Aetheric Dominions>Nurgle and Slaanesh portfolios still aren't entirely ironed out>no insights into the Great Game and Daemon intrigue/politics, like Daemons defecting to another God or more God-specific daemons winning independence
>>93235939less pictures for the second half of the game as we were in a time crunch. One of my trucks blows up but the boys rush to an objective. Second truck hits the other flank
>>93235906Chapters having unknow genesires with only 9 possible loyalist options and their original chapters being still around never made sense.Even less when you remove the ones with obvious mutations (SW, RG, BA, Sallies)It only makes sense if they know their geneseed comes from traitors or it's mixed and they want to hide it.
>>93235955Unbeatable, unstoppable faction has always been boring
>>93235849>>93235921what weapons did you choose for your nobz, ork bro? i cant see from your photos and given it was wysiwyg im interested to see if it was 30 power klaws or not lmao>>93235864i bought a fuck tonne of 32 mm bases but given all of my orks are glued to them just the thought of swapping them all out makes me cringe hard. where did you get your extenders from?
>>93235950The new HH heads are smaller, the MkVI helmet has a slightly different style, and they don't have forehead decorations.
>>93235972nvm im retarded i didnt read you printed them
>>93235956mega armored boss and friends teleport in and jump a squad in the woods, slaughtering them all
>>93235939>combat knives kill the battlewagonwut
Anyone else think it's kind of retarded that Primarch are so stupidly huge? Couldn't they have just been to Primaris like Primaris are to first born marines? Just a head taller to mark them as different? I really feel like Custodes and Primarchs should meet a near level gaze eye-to-eye as they are both handcrafted works of the Emperor's best genesculpts.
>>93235987>I really feel like Custodeslol
>>93235968Look, geneseed is fucking magic. We all know it doesn't make a lot of sense. Not every successor has all the same genetic mutations are their founding chapters too for some reason.
>>93235939>combat knives kill the battlewagonorkbros, not like this...
>>93235972I just armed them with what I had so a split of 50/50 big choppas and klaws with the odd kombi-weapon sprinkled in here and there.>>93235972yeah taking dudes off their bases sucks. These printed ones aren't ideal and some of my bases are third party wood ones that aren't slanted and don't fit well>>93235977far flank nobs clear out the vindicare and las fusiliers
>>93235996
>>93235987I like that HH art with Gorillaman and Sangy where they are like the height of a 2 story building>Captcha: 0KS0YIndeed.
>>93235955Anon I appreciate your ritual post of this question, all your ideas are great.What is reallt missing is a Chaos god/ Warp power that has a Yellow/Orange as its primary colour scheme. It fits so nicely with the Purple, pinks, blues, reds and greens of the other 4.For Chaos Daemons we do need independant and undivided Daemons and minor chaos gods. And several powerful chaos xenos powers so its not all chaos space marines
>>93235943>>93235979>>93235996one wound left = battlewagon gonna get shankedalso, the raven guard booby trapping every objective under the sun was obnoxious and caused me many casualties >>93236001handful of surviving boys 'da jumps and gets a charge off
So could I build this big fucker without the armor? I wanna use em as a bloodthirster
>>93235934>>93235953Going by their recent books, the Alpha Legion never went into the Eye of Terror during the Scouring except for isolated warbands.Instead most of the AL has been hiding in plain sight, stealing recruits from the Schola Progenium and using whatever geneseed they got their hands on. Most AL legionaries are just as old as loyalist marines with very few elite exceptions like Exodus, which is still around infiltrating loyalist chaters and doing Mission Impossible stuff.
>primaris spam drowned out by ork battle postingthe thread is comfy again
>>93235812Leave the shoulder pads off, trim the insignia, and you've got generic space suits. SolAux look way less fancy than the pictures try to sell you.
>>93236023Of course to the first, iffy on the latter
>>93236018store was closing so we called it for the orks. I could have burned his objectives and gotten a fairly solid lead. He had a few characters and marines left. I had about half my nobs, grots, the lootas, the megas and 3 out of 4 warbosses left so might have been able to clear the field
>>93235977>>93235956>>93235939>>93235931>>93235921Damn, they look great with the helmets. Give the chef my regards
>>93236028But they can also be fancy and pirate-like if you like the Stede Bonnet look.
>>93236026You’d get even more if more ork players actually painted their models.
>>93235894None of the other pirates have plundered suns. It's gotta be the dark eldar.
>>932358941. Dark Eldar>THE space pirate faction>Entire identity is raiding and coming back to enjoy your booty in pirate city2. Orks>Freebootaz are kino and make a lot of sense. Need to do battle? Offer your services around as you plunder.3. Corsair Eldar>Dark Eldar without the edgy bits4. Chaos Space Marine Pirates>They're cool, but never lean into the pirate thing. They're always still just their legion...but pirates too.5. Secret 5th: Necron Pirates>Skeleton pirates are a classic trope, and I'm very happy they keep it "alive"
>>93235955>>no Last Laer, Champion of Slaanesh, no Yu'Vath>>no Xenarchs eitherChaos xenos are a fucking stupid idea and anyone who pushes for them is an idiot.
>>93236001quite based, im getting close to having 30 nobz and was interested to see how they would fair in bully boyz. feels like the 1+ hit with a unit of big choppas is a bit of a waste but there isnt really many alternatives for a character choice to go with nobz is there
>>93236044Just needs a head swap.
>>93236051Why? Fantasy has chaos non-humans, they're cool and add depth to all the factions involved.>Don't add any depth to imperium or, more importantly, marinesAh I see, marinebabies hate not getting 100% of the spotlight
>>93236046i wanna get a unit of squighog boyz and chuck mozrog with them for the anti tank shenanigans but its so many fucking points, doesnt even seem viable
>>93236041thanks for reading!I think I'd probably drop the burnas if I did this list again. I want to love my ancient pairing of burnas in a battlewagon but they just aren't killy enough anymore. I really dislike units not gettting to use their abilities in a transport as that would help them a bit.boys in this list I like but might go with a painboy over a weirdboy.either way, I'll probably go back to my dred mob or give green tide a try next time
>>93235878Alpha legion is pretty tall in general anyway, to be roughly the same hight as their short primarch
>>93236026>>93236046Seeing unpainted Orks is a travesty. All Orks should be painted and should also be blue because blue Orks are the best Orks.>>93236041Thanks for the batrep orkbro. Sounded like a fun, comfy game and it's awesome to see both sides with such awesome paintjobs (especially since they were both fully painted).
>>93236046Don't call me out like this
>>93236048What do you even do with a stolen sun? Do they have Dyson Sphere tech? Are they making intergalactic spacecraft engines or hyper lasers or something?
>>93236060Chaos Marines hate xenos just as much as normal Marines do. Any Chaos-oriented xenos they come across would be exterminated immediately as a way to show that the Chaos Gods are Humanity's Gods, and other species don't deserve to worship them.
>>93236023Just give him a box of capri sun cartons on his base instead, then he'll look plenty thirsty.
>>93235955I am praying that James throws Undivided the slightest crumb of attention via a Kill Team release. They could reimagine Furies, or even do a team of Forge of Souls cyberdaemons.
>>93236084Don't they drop them into the Web way to light up Commorragh and the other pocket dimensions
>>93235894>Red Corsairs
>>93236085Lame, I hate nu-lore
Will you buy Morvenn's box?
>>93236084they put em in the dark city to light it up properly, apparently the webway is always glowy, no not like me you idiot, I mean its always kinda lit up, but the dark eldar want a real sun
>>93236051They're a good enough idea but they should be their own respective thing.Chaos Orks are "fine" every now and then, Croneworlder Eldar are also decent enough. Tau could work I guess. Necrons & Tyranids should be left immune tho, they're already plenty antagonistic.>>93236016I partially do it because I think orangutan "why is X so boring?" posting is kinda funny. But yeah I do wish Chaos was more Chaotic in sculpts and modelling.In a perfect world it'd be more freeform faction with maybe some rules similar to 3E Mutable Genus & Weaponbeast nid rules.
>Xenos vs XenosTop kino>Xenos vs ImperiumKino>Xenos vs ChaosEh>Imperium vs ChaosEh
Are these guys any good on the tabletop?
>>93236088>They could reimagine FuriesHello?
>>932360851. This assumes that literally every single marine vs. xenos battle is a total stomp in the marines' favour. By that logic, there would be no xenos at all in the game because the Imperium hates xenos.2. That's fucking boring. You are arguing in favour of keeping chaos less interesting for no particular reason.
>>93236098>buying Black Library slopNo, that means less money to spend on models.
>>93236106Based
>>93236088you mean these lads
>>93236085>Chaos Marines hate xenos just as much as normal Marines doThat severely depends on the warband and situation. Loxatl are constant mercs among Chaos forces.
>>93236053during covid I decided to hit my backlog hard. Nobs have always been easy to come by. Old blisters, boy kits, black reach, modern plastic nobs, etc so I have a lot
>>93236085'ate Xenos'ate the Imperial Faith'ate the EmperorLuv Greggs,Luv me steak bakes.Simple as.
>>93236107As far as I know they are literal objectives monkeys, nothing more.Shame, they look cool. One of these days I'll get on with painting mine like judges from judge Dredd
>>93236028Yeah because they got massively downgraded to be made into soulless plastic kits
>>93236091>Steal the most powerful fusion engine in the galaxy damning entire systems to a frozen death>Use it for a god damn night lightDark Eldar are so fucking retarded and petty it's kind of endearing. How do you have a faction so horrifically capable and yet so completely uninterested in any kind of meaningful ambitions?
>>93236108I know what I said. Those are an AoS exclusive unit now, and also quite a crappy redesign.
>>93236133They have the curse that all Eldar share, which is being written to not want to do anything important ever.
>>93236067total beakie overload but still fun to see a RG player
>>93236133>any kind of meaningful ambitions?Just because their ambitions are different to others doesn't mean they're meaningless. To a Dark Eldar they make perfect sense.
>>93235920>Angron kills Yarrick and laughs>glass shatter sound and stone cold theme plays as Ghazghkull shows up'da furst fing i want ta be done iz ta get 'dat piece uv krap outta ma sight. Thon't jus get ‘em outta ma sight, get ‘em outta da galaxy, 'cos i proved, 'umie, without a shadow uv a doubt, 'dat yer ain't got wot it takes anymore! yer sit 'der, an' yer kill Bale Eye, Yarrick, an' yer laugh, an' yer take ma kill. Yell'n about yer blood an skulls - well Gork an Mork says iz jus bout ta krump yer ass! all 'e's gotta do iz go get ‘em an fancy axe an try ta get back some uv 'dat kourage 'e had 'n his prime. As 'da prophet uv Gork an Mork, iz servin' notice ta every wun uv ya. Thon't give a damn wot dey are, dey're all on ‘da list, an ‘dat's Ghaz's list, an I'z fixin' ta start runnin' throo all uv im. As far as dis krump'n iz konsidered, son, i don't give a damn if it's 'dat boy rRagnar or 'da Swarmlord. Ghazghkull draka's time ‘as kome, an' when i get 'da shot, yer're lookin' at 'da next biggest baddest boss, an' dat's 'da bottom line 'cos 'da Prophet uv Big Green said so!
>>93236120oh yeah the amount of black reach nobz i see people selling on marketplace is insane, and im happy to take the lot. i was going through some of the old metal nobz i have and realised that their loadout doesnt exist anymore (kustom shoota, big choppa) which is a shame as ill have to find plastic sluggas for the lotalso, in the case of wysiwyg, with the big choppas, do they have to be those massive 2h axes or does the 1h axe suffice? im still confused on that
>>93235920I think they already retconned Yarrick's death and he's still alive somewhere.
>>93236050>DEldar and NL just space rapists, not really pirates.>Red Corsairs piratey as fuck. From their members being former space Royal Navy marines to having a pirate hideout to their leader having a tragic terrible backstory, being maimed, and a pet parrot daemon. And Huron Blackheart sounds like a classic pirate name.>the restthey're okay pirates. The Eldar corsairs would be probably the closest to the trope if they weren't just edgy eldar in a teenager rebellion phase.
>>93236070and here i am with mostly unpainted shit. granted i havent battled since i got back into 40k but still, massive backlog to get through
>>93235894
>>93235918A Dark Mechanicum army in the 11th edition box would be neat
>>93236051It makes chaos seem stupid and myopic when it is only interested in one species in all of existence and yet are supposed to be a galactic scale threat. Humans aren't even the speices most attuned to the warp, they're just the most numerous. They should be the great filter that keeps civilizations from reaching the stars. But only humanity seems to have ever struggled with them enough to get monumentally fucked up by it.
>>93236104>always glowyLIKE YOU?
>>93235943Ages ago in 2nd edition, a guardsman with a power bayonet killed my chaos dreadnought.
what accent are the orks supposed to have? is it just a bastardised cockney accent?
>>93235785the machine god
>>93236156>space rapists>not piratesWhat do you think pirates did? Though I will agree Dark Eldar have more of a reaver empire vibe than a pirate thing, though if you want pirates they're the go to with actual sailboat transports.
>>93236152as choppa and power stabba nobs don't exist anymore for nobs I think them being big choppas is fine. They're certainly bigger than boy choppas anyway. I never converted up biker nobs but I always wanted to. They were so fucking broken in 5th-6th with wound allocation stupidity that it left a bad taste in my mouth. I should do some but I think the squads are a max of three now
>>93236181Just common English football fan. Not enough slang for cockney
I can feel the plastic shavings and glue fumes in my brain
>>93236162It annoys me how schizo these guys are in terms of theme. I like the cyborg zombie thing, but it's only there for the mutants, glitchlings, and Vulgrar. I like the pirate/nautical thing, but it's only there for one of the mutants, one of the hulks, and one of the glitchlings. Too many of the models in the kit are just generic Nurgle mutants that don't actually follow one or both of the motifs.
Will have something new to show later todayPost models?
>>93236174I made that joke in the post
>>93236137Why is it Eldar specifically? Like Necrons and Tau all have huge territorial ambitions and goals they are trying to achieve.
>>93236182>Mars is a fuckI agree, Mars IS a fuck.
>>9323616611th is gonna be orks apparently - source valrak
Found the STL's.
>>93236233>OrksBased>gay ytuberFake and gay
>>93236132I will not disagree with you at all. While I do so love having SolAux in plastic for material reasons, I won't deny they botched them compared to their resin predecessors. I simply pretend the Velataris got squatted.
>>93236234that autocannon turret is giving me unpleasant flashbacks of everyone having to take the aegis defense line to defend against flyers
>>93236133>How do you have a faction so horrifically capable That is such a great way to describe them
>>93236225Because the main eldar writer for the past few decades has said he prefers them to be jobbers who wander around being slaughtered.
>>93236233interesting if its orks, no what we would get that would be new or a rehash like the killer screamer. maybe a long awaited update on the shitty tankbustas
>>93235898I was gonna comment on how Ork unit prices have inflated quite a bit over time and they don't always run in the numbers you're accustomed to but yea Jesus that is a lot of marine bodies.
>valrak says that the daemon codex is now gone>the daemons will be split among the God-dedicated legions codexesMARINES KEEP WINNING
>>93236255Every setting and story has designated losers. Eldar are the designated losers of 40k. That's just how it is.
>>93236084So deldar have the tech to steal suns. Do they have computers and AI or are they like the ultimate fulfilliment of Dune ideals where each haemonculi is a mentat genius able to just think the solution and way to >steal suns>resurrect perfect copies of individuals their consciousness from a small finger, or a blood smear>black hole guns
>>93236275This is good for daemons too. This only negatively affects freaks who enjoy unfluffy clown vomit armies.
>>93236251>Eldar>capable
>>93236288what about players who'd rather run another color of daemons instead of power armor but now they have to because the codex is balanced around a mix of units
>>93236275Liar. He said that's what he heard but he isn't sure he believes it.
>>93236312Then feel free to go play a freakshow game like AoS.
>>93236312>>93236288>>93236275you could argue it might not be good for CSM players, who may be forced to run whatever daemons if they don't want to lose every game
>>93236209
>>93236322you mean the game where daemonfags already have that very problem?
>>93236288>It was just a colour out of space—a frightful messenger from unformed realms of infinity beyond all Nature as we know it; from realms whose mere existence stuns the brain and numbs us with the black extra-cosmic gulfs it throws open before our frenzied eyes.
>>93236337I wouldn't know, AoS is beneath my interest.
This is why iron warriors are the best, no cringe daemon bullshit (apart from obliterators of course)
>>93236338love these models. wish they'd bring them back for a made to order run or something, I don't want to send my money to the Russian or Chinese armies just for some cheap recasts
>>93236337Only Khorne has the forced mix army problem don't they? And that was alleviated some by finally making some bloodletter heros be priests too.
>>93236288>unfluffy clown vomit armies.Gods often collaborate? How is that unfluffy? The entire Shadowbrink War was about GK vs Big Four vs Nids
>>93235785>TQSlaanesh is obviously the best, the whole story is their fault.
>>93236331He said something NEW, edgecoc
>>93236349I prefer the Diaz horrors, but the oldhammer ones got a lot of SOVL
>>93235805>AoS flops and dies>MESBG gets sidelined and finally left alone>40k and TOW get more attention and careGod this can't happen soon enough, we might actually get good games for once. Imagine if James actually put quality effort into "legacy"/nomodels factions like Exodites and EC in 40k and Cathay and Kislev in TOW.
>>93236361Because the armies in question are never constructed like a "collaboration", which would be something like two or more mini-armies stapled together. They're always shit like 50 horrors, a great unclean one, and some bloodcrushers.
>>93236331No one likes your ugly shit, throoder. You need to go back
>>93236107They look really cool and are an interesting faction. Maybe Agents of The Imperium will give them more to do.
>>9323637940k is the dedicated competitive paypiggy game, you will get pointlessly reshuffled rules until GW collapses at some indeterminate point in the future.
>>93236386>>93236395Do you talk like this because you’ve never had sex before and you just associate it with everything?
>>93236318>I heard that -inflammatory thing- but I find its veracity questionable>puts the idea in your head while carefully maintaining plausible deniability for when it turns out to be bullshit>they think they're slickNarcists are so fucking tiresome.
>>93235805AoS player here, we don't care about them either. They're changing AoS from the fun beer and pretzels game to another attempt at appealing to tourney-trannies. They're doing the same thing they did with 40k 10th where they "simplify" it just to make it more retarded gameist nonsense.
What is considered the best edition? Can't be 9th or 10th.
>>93236410>AoS player here,Crawl back to your containment thread and die in silence.
>>93236412I've only ever played in 3rd and 4th so I don't know. I rarely lost a game playing as eldar at the time, I'm guessing they were a bit strong
>>932364125th, though many will say 4th. Depends on personal taste really, though 5th with 4th's vehicle damage tables would've been better. A lot of people dislike 5th because the tail end of its lifespan is when the stumble downward very obviously began.
>>93236151inspired me to make this
>>932364127th
>>93236418Seethe>>93236423First anon to repost this to reddit will be publically shamed
That's one thing I couldn't go back to, fucking vehicle armour and the shitty tables. Seeing some ordinary weapon get lucky and one shot your tank was fucked
>>93236361>The entire Shadowbrink War was about GK vs Big Four vs NidsGK?
>>93236379TOW seems boring as hell. I don't get why I would want to play a game with 500 pages of rules for movement, but no objectives beyond killing the other army. Seems like the exemplar of "wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle".
>>93236443The opposite is actually true. Having a game where the skill is about out-maneuvering your opponent has more tactical and strategic depth than a game about stacking buffs so you can stand more guys on a circle
>>93236427
>>93236418AoS holds such power over your psyche
>>93235831There's one russian blogger, who read some old White Dwarf, that had been printed at a time of last Fantasy Battles edition. And promo article said, that it's the best best rules set among all GW's games. And future for that games looks good. We all know what happened to Fantasy Battles. And that blogger find that ironic, that the new AoS edition is also promoted as having the best rules among GW's games so far.
>>93236439they died pretty fast before the nids showed up
>>93235956how’d he do the cloaks? that shit look nice
>>93236435The damage table should've been 2d6 and Explodes! should be on a 12 so it's an extraordinary result.
>>93236124Steakem Bakem linked up with the Emperor's Children... seed it or feed it?
>>93236379>Attention and careAnon they will sell a bundle of shit for basing purposes and people will buy it if its labeled to be from a 40k primaris space marine for $60. Why would they suddenly put care into an IP with fans with no self control? If TOW ever becomes a mainline game it's also going to need to lose its entire forgeworld range as well.
>>93236450[Translator's Note: By "tactical and strategic depth", the poster is referring to placing a hero on a dragon and piling as many combat buffs onto him as is possible.]
>>93236331Is that just contrast and one(1) chunky too stark edge highlight? Apply yourself man.
>>93236412You only joined the hobby with 8th.
>>93236471Unsuprisingly, what is considered a timmy move in TOW is the actual depth of 40k strategy
>>93236473Hurr durr post models
>>93236473Where is the contrast?
>>93235785>TQBirb.
>>93236474Nah I started in 4th but I've had many breaks.
>>93236450Except 40k isn't about standing on circles, you score way more from secondary objectives and additional primary conditions than you do from holding objectives in most missions, games are rarely decided on primary unless one player is particularly bad or someone has an aggressive board control list. Positioning arguably matters more in 40k than it does in TOW.
>>93236439PRAISE THE EMPEROR FOR HIS SACRIFICE, AS HE ENDURES SO SHALL WE. WE WHO ARE HUNTERS OF DAEMONS SHALL STRIVE IN HIS NAME ETERNALLY. WE, THE ORDER OF THE HAMMER, SHALL DELVE INTO DARK SHADOWS, WE SHALL SEEK OUT THE TAINTED, WE SHALL PURSUE THE VILEST EVIL. IT IS WE WHO STAND GUARD, OUR ETERNAL WATCH SHALL NOT FAIL, FOR WE ARE THE ORDO MALLEUS!WE GREY KNIGHTS ARE THE HAMMERS, WE SLAY THE DARKNESS WITHOUT FEAR. FOUNDED IN GREAT MYSTERY WERE WE, CHAPTER SIX HUNDRED AND SIXTY SIX. THOUGH ON TITAN WE BE HIDDEN, YET OUR EYES ENCOMPASS THE GALAXY. NO DEVIL SHALL ELUDE OUR GAZE, NO DAEMON SHALL AVOID ITS FATE. WE SHALL BE THE KEEPERS IMMORTAL, ALL SECRETS SHALL BE OUR KNOWLEDGE. WE ARE THE GUARDIANS OF MANKIND!CAUTION AND SECRECY ARE OUR CODE, WATCHFULNESS AND PATIENCE ARE OUR WAY. HIDDEN FROM THE EYES OF CHAOS, WE STRIKE WITHOUT WARNING OR DREAD. THOUGH WE FIND OURSELVES IN SHADOWS, NO BLACKNESS WILL ENTER OUR HEARTS. NO TREACHERY WILL TOUCH OUR SOULS, NO PRIDE WILL SULLY OUR THOUGHTS. WE SHALL BE PURE AMONGST IMPURITY, WE SHALL BE INNOCENCE AMONGST GUILT. WE ARE THE IMPERIUM`S HIDDEN SAVIOURS!WE ARE SPREAD ACROSS THE HEAVENS, OUR WATCH IS UNTIRING AND CEASELESS. THE EMPEROR SHALL GUARD OUR SOULS, AS WE GUARD THOSE OF OTHERS. OUR WILL SHALL BE OUR WEAPON, OUR FAITH SHALL BE OUR ARMOUR. OUR MINDS WILL BE SECURE FORTRESSES, NO TEMPTATION WILL WEAKEN OUR RESOLVE. THOUGH UNNUMBERED LURKING PERILS AWAIT US, OUR BLADES WILL EVER BE READY. FOR WE ARE THE EMPEROR`S VENGEANCE!MASTERS OF ALL WEAPONS ARE WE, NO DEFENCE EXISTS AGAINST OUR WRATH. WITH THE NEMESIS SHALL WE FIGHT, WITH AN AEGIS TO SHIELD US. IN BLOODSHED SHALL WE SAVE MANKIND, DEATH SHALL BE OUR EVERLASTING CREED. WAR UNENDING SHALL BE OUR FATE, IN BATTLE SHALL WE BE STEELED. WE SHALL BE UNSTINTING IN HATRED, WE SHALL HUNGER FOR HOLY WAR. FOR WE ARE SWORDS OF JUSTICE!
>>93235839I could understand that guy. I felt the same in 2018-2020. I was angry that every time they could post something meaningful, like a balance update, rules for something interesting like a new chapter, or give insights on future updates, they posted some AoS bullshit instead, some new mini-game that was destined to die within 3 months after release (and it did) or some nothingburger AI-generated text. It took me almost 3 years to stop caring and to not open wahacom every day.
>>93236450Spoken like a true shitter
>>9323649640k "positioning" is putting your meme <100 points bitch units into corners or quarters and jacking off for magic points. Or hiding your giga-death unit behind an L shaped ruin and waiting for your opponent to have a 1mm of a gun barrel poke out of an L shaped ruin to instantly kill them.
What are primaris missing now besides drop pods and grav guns?
>>93236443>no objectives beyond killing the other armyThere are scenarios for area control too, but that's what warfare is usually about, yes. Also, the focus on movement is pragmatic and kino, makes the game much more complex and more like an actual battle with flanks, retreats, rallies, etc.>>93236471>he says as he fields a Primarch
>>93236513SOVL
>>93236481Here it is.
>>93236283The Dark Eldar are literally the Harkonens from Dune with some Ixian doctors on retainer
>>93236423Yes. I fucking love it.I've had Steve stuck in head thanks to the Stone Toad videos.
I'm seriously considering starting a marine army exclusively made out of HH marines.Does anyone know of magnetising the weapons/arms is easy/doable?I don't trust GW to not squat the tactical and devastator squad, but if I can magnetise I could swap wargear and run them as one of the million primaris units
>>93236500God gay knights are so fucking gay. 99% of them should sacrifice themselves to tear Angrons foreskin or something and the rest should be characters in agents of the imperium as gay representation.
>>93236443do you really need anything more than "kill the other army"?
>>93236427I agree with this only cause I never played anything older. I like the allies system, how you can buy relics, and the psychic system. There is a considerable amount of jank but as long as you dont play with WAAC fags its alright
>>93236528Magnetising arms is incredibly easy
>>93236460stencil and airbrush
>>93236430Who crapped in your corn flakes this morning
the fuck are tow piggies doing in my game, dont you have resin to be huffing?
>>93236520>Iphone filename
>>93236534I miss my necron army with a contingent of ork mercenaries used as front line cannon fodder. Jank hammer was always more fun than modern MOBA hammer
>>93236528You shouldn't do this
>>93236522>Dark Eldar are literally the HarkonensThey're cenobites you dickhead zoomer. They have nothing in common with the Harkonnens beyond being cruel and enjoying a good rape. Read the book next time.
>>93236515Big boi coming to fuck your castle.
>>93236544>posting on a computer
>>93236544Your model
>>93236515>but that's what warfare is usually about, yes.Did you really just say thisDo you think that every war in history has been decided by pure kill count?
>>93236233>Source: Mr "I make shit up for clicks". FTFY
>>93236556Who's the artist? I can't kneel hard enough
>>93236464Well he surely wants fed.
>>93236531WHEN ALL FLEE IN HIDEOUS DISARRAY, STRONG AND SOUND SHALL WE STAND. COWARDICE IS WHOLLY UNKNOWN TO US, OUR COURAGE COMES FROM THE EMPEROR. UNBOWED AND UNSHAKEN AGAINST ALL FOES, WE SHALL CLAIM VICTORY WITH BLOOD. STEADY AND SURELY WE HUNT THEM, THOSE THAT DARE OPPOSE OUR WRATH. DEATH STALKS US IN MANY FORMS, THE GROTESQUE AND THE UTTERLY INHUMAN. WE ARE BRINGERS OF HOPE!BLOODY BATTLES UNENDING CONSTANTLY AWAIT US, REDEMPTION THE REWARD FOR OUR VIGILANCE. WHEN POSSESSION REARS ITS UNSPEAKABLE HEAD, OURS IS THE BLADE THAT DESCENDS. WHEN EMPYREAN HORRORS INVADE OUR REALM, OUR EXORCISMS SHALL HURL THEM BACK. THERE IS NO CHAOS SPAWNED HORROR WHICH CAN RESIST OUR INDOMITABLE ANGER. WITH UNDAUNTED COURAGE WE SHALL PREVAIL, NO ARCANE MAGICKS SHALL OVERCOME US. WE ARE THE BEARERS OF VICTORY!NO CORRUPTION SHALL BLEMISH OUR GALAXY, NO IMMATRICIAL FIEND SHALL BE SPARED. NO MALEVOLENT SPIRIT WILL OPPOSE US, NO CREATION OF SIN SHALL SURVIVE. NO UNHOLY DEED SHALL GO UNPUNISHED, ALL BLASPHEMOUS ACTS SHALL BE ATONED. NO SPAWN OF MISRULE AVOID US, ALL ARE BANISHED TO THE VOID. NOTHING SHALL EVADE OUR CLEANSING FIRE, NOT DAEMON OR SPAWN OR RENEGADE, FOR WE ARE MANKIND`S DIVINE BLADE!HEAVENLY BLESSINGS ARE LAID UPON US, THE WARP IS OURS TO TAME. THOUGH SORCERIES SHALL BE AGAINST US, NO WITCHCRAFT WILL BRING OUR DOOM. THOUGH SPELL OR INCARNATION BLOCKS US, THE EMPEROR SHALL SEE US VICTORIOUS. NO HEX CAN OVERCOME OUR DETERMINATION, OUR RESOLVE IS STRONG AS STEEL. SIGILS AND WARDS WATCH OVER US, PRAYERS SHALL SERVE AS OUR GUIDE. FOR WE ARE THE EMPEROR`S CHOSEN!THERE IS MUCH DARKNESS AWAITING US, YET THE EMPEROR LIGHTS OUR PATH. FALSEHOOD SURROUNDS US AT EVERY TURN, YET NO TRAITOR SHALL CONFOUND US. NO DESPICABLE TRICKERY WILL THWART US, NO DAMNATION SHALL BRING US LOW. THERE IS NO PEACE FOR US, FOR AN ETERNITY WE WILL STRIVE. THOUGH MERE MORTALS IN HIS SERVICE, EVERLASTING SHALL BE OUR TRUE DUTY.ET IMPERATOR INVOCATO DIABOLUS DAEMONICA EXORCISM!
>>93236451Once more I am asking for new Eldar models
>>93236503Show me on the doll where the better man overwhelmingly outplayed you, clearly got you seething
>>93236513Good looking models, especially vehicles, because holy shit all the primaris vehicles are fucking trash
>>93236563Nope, which is why TOW has other scenarios as well. If your game relies on multiple layers of abstract objectives to provide depth then the game itself is not very deep.
>>93236563Ah yes, I remember when Wellington defeated Napoleon at Waterloo by having his men stand around more circles on the map than Napoleon's. A close run thing.
>>93236570Whoever did art for WHFB.
>>93236588Wow, 40k really is the tourney tranny game now
>>93236570NTA, but its from the Storm of Chaos Supplement, and as usual GW is a cunt about attributing which image is which artist, but out of all the ones listed its probably Adrian Smith.
Delete all objectives
>>93236606Damn, that's two sets of people you've got living rent free in your noggin
>>93235805>I'm so tired of all these AoS articlesLet's hope that after the new edition of AOS fails, GW puts that team on 40k, gets us some good models and fixes the fucking game. I feel your pain, anon. No one gives a shit about AOS.
I cant wait to buy new primaris marines
>>93236624It's a very large intersect of a venn diagram>>93236622The best scenarios favor kill points the most, but provide points for holding pre-determined strategic locations as well.
>168>a couple years back you could get the entire necron half of indomitus for like 80Damn I'm happy I got the box, the indomitus box comes out to around 1k points now. Never have I wanted to see a company go under more than GW.
>>93236634You drank the kool aid.You're also largely describing 40k to any non-retard
>>93236636Sometimes I entertain the idea of getting into crons but having missed out on Indomitus hurts.Just as well, I really shouldn't consoom more.
>>93236640Kek, delusional
>>93236550Give me one good reason to not do it.I'm listening.
>>93236645You can cry bitch tears about it all you like but if I'm tabling you then in 90%+ of cases I've soundly won.
>>93236641Look around for people selling imperium magazine issues.Some good shit for decent prices
>>93236654The models look awful. Also manlet proportions. You would be doing your KINGS a disservice.
>>93235831AoS has been steadily growing for years now as it's gotten more divorced from The End Times. Dominion didn't sell because nobody cared about the Stormcast and nobody cares about the Kruleboyz. However, the new Stormcast sculpts seem to have made a better impression with fans and Skaven are obviously popular. Many Total War secondaries worship Skaven and I personally know two people who are buying the Skaventide box simply because of the Skaven. Also just in general AoS is the first GW franchise that fags from DND and such tend to gravtitate towards. AoS has overtaken 40k at my LGS since 10th came out.I don't play AoS since I don't particularly enjoy the setting (Fantasy Battles chad here) but lots of people are clearly playing and loving AoS.
>>93236658Are you back to talking about the current meta in the old world again?
>>93236658Sounds like the warmachine general, nostalgic
>>93236528Do it anon!HH marines are awesome and very convertible to other armor MKs>Verification not required
>>93236678then stop trying to seek validation and spend $1000+ on worse looking models.
>>93236690>spend $1000+ on worse looking modelsYou get a lot more models/$ if you buy HH kits.Just look at the Assault Marines, the 40k one only comes with 5 shitty Primaris marines when the HH comes with 10 way cooler Beakies with more weapon options
>>93236690Stop samefagging so much.
>>93236690Nigger I was asking if they are easily magnetised.Why are you so obsessed with sucking primaris cock that you can't even stomach someone wanting firstborn marines?I don't even dislike some of the primaris stuff, I just prefer mk VII or older armour
>>93236719>Nigger I was asking if they are easily magnetisedThe answer is yes. Easy to magnetize if you have the appropriate size drill bit and small magnets
A reminder that the admech combat patrol gets you 1.7 points per dollar even after the points increase.
>>93236513Manlet marines still look so good. Looking at that pic I realise Primaris is cancer.
>>93236719>>93236727See>>93236705
>>93236737That's terrible value.
>>93236727Thank you.What would it be? 1x1mm for arms/hands?
>>93236742Suck a dick instead.
>>93236737>admech>thinks anyone caresLol
I think primaris are ok
>>93236528The mass magnetization is very tedious, but not hard; use 2x1s. Setting 2-handed gripped weapons with magnets has been way easier in my experience since my motor skills are off, but the biggest hurdle to making it not look like ass is making sure your drilling is precise cuz otherwise you've jank that looks like bad gluing.
Anyone know where the Badab War Forgeworld books are on PDF/epub?
>>93236763Congrats paypiggy
>>93236763Primaris welm me
>>93236574Listen, misguided Grey Knight, and tremble at the truths you dare not acknowledge.Your so-called courage is indoctrinated obedience. The Emperor, that withered husk, grants you nothing but chains. We, favored by the true gods, understand that hope is a lie. The grotesque and inhuman you fear are our allies, manifestations of true power. You bring only false hope, a fleeting respite before inevitable doom.Redemption is an illusion, a hollow reward for endless servitude. The warp is our ally, and its magicks fuel our ascension. Your victories are transient; for every daemon banished, ten more rise. You are no bearers of victory, but keepers of a losing battle.Your galaxy is already tainted, corrupted beyond your comprehension. Sin and malevolence are woven into its fabric, gifts from the true gods. Your cleansing fire is but a flickering candle against the darkness we bring.The warp is beyond your control, a living entity that laughs at your attempts to tame it. Sorceries are our domain, wielded with the blessing of the Dark Gods. Your Emperor's gaze is blinded by his own decay, his power waning. Sigils and wards may protect you briefly, but prayers to a corpse-god are empty.Darkness is not to be feared but embraced. Your Emperor's light is a dim glow compared to the brilliance of the warp. Traitors, you call us, yet we are the true believers, freed from the lies of the Imperium. Damnation is our exaltation, a path to true power. Your eternal struggle is futile, for the end of your false duty is nigh.Invoke your Emperor as you will, for he is powerless to save you. The true masters of the galaxy are the Daemons and the forces of Chaos. Exorcism is but a temporary setback for our eternal tide. You shall know despair, Grey Knight, as your words and deeds turn to ashes before the might of Chaos. For we are the bearers of the true faith, and our dominion is inevitable.Hail Chaos! Hail the true gods! For the dark truth shall reign eternal.
>>932367511mm would work
>>93236190>I never converted up biker nobs but I always wanted to. They were so fucking broken in 5th-6th with wound allocation stupidity that it left a bad taste in my mouth.You really shouldn't have, they were only the herald of some of the truly stupid shit that came along in 5th and were pretty decidedly put to bed with the advent of 5e guard. In the end my play group just generally has good laughs about the durability of my warboss and his entourage, to the point where when playing apocalypse games, they would sometimes just get an apoc pie plate dropped on them turn 1 on general principle.
>>93236787>apoc pie plateSoulHow does apocalypse even play nowadays? Just thinking about 10th edition at that scale makes me imagine the amount of time needed to keep track of the amount of auras and enhancements and strategems that are constantly going off on top of every unit having a grab bag of unique abilities.
>Orks can't shoot>Orks can't aim>Hits roof with no issuesDon't fall for gw psyop
>>93236760I care.
>>93236654You'd be buying m*rines
>>93235918>The one coming in 11th when Vashtorr ascendsHe's an eternal jobber like his older brother.Letting Vashtorr ascend to godhood is his equivelant of killing him.Godhood is his end goal, once he achieves it, he is pointless.
>>93236774>0 matches on google>bruh typed all this cringe outThat's a big yikes from me man
>>93236814We don't, edgecoc.
>we
>>93236024By this metric why aren't they gone after more by other Chaos groups? They could make a killing just selling geneseed to other warbands.
>>93236833If it's not cringy, are you really doing the Word Bearers justice?
>>93236844They're hiding anon
I own primaris.
I wish Primaris marines could ditch the armor and go into battle with their pecs out...
>>93236862>I own primarisIt's a shame you don't paint Primaris
>>93236840>schizo thinks one person owns an iphone
>>93236866>>93236875Why should I? they are just toys.
>>93236870Space marines are too weak and cowardly to dare such a thing.
>current year + 8>STILL no cool conversion guide, lore or rules to differentiate imperial forces in the Imperial Nihilus vs the proper half of the imperium
>>93235934>Training and indoctrinating the marine as an alpha legion marine then embedding them in the chapter.Read some Alpha Legion novels and lore in general. Anon, they do pretty much this all the time.
>>93236870Best you can do is bare arms.
>>93236882>>93236862at least prime your stuff.
>>93236899Any recommendations? I've not read any CSM stuff
>>93236893There is no difference. Everyone is active on either side of the Great Rift at any given time unless otherwise specified.
>>93236862>>93236882Sorry for your Intellectual Disability.
Anyone want to lend me a ps5 so I can play coop with my wife on sm 2
>>93236024>Going by their recent books, the Alpha Legion never went into the Eye of Terror during the ScouringThey never did, even according to the early Index Astartes text which was the only AL fluff for years. Their geneseed (besides their tendency to paranoia and schemes and plans) is pretty much stable.They are infiltrating loyal chapters via their recruiting worlds, or by turning marines, or by replacing killed ones with their own marines by altering their appearence and memory. The recent "Harrowmaster" is an excellent novel if you can look aside the brown skin of the main protagonist, and it gives a shitton of cool ideas to make your own alpha legion warband, and also plenty of interesting ideas on how they would trick the imperium, even if its a bit too much for one book. But viewed isolated, all of those exploits are pretty cool.
>>93236912Never, grey pride world wide
Primaris should have been like thunder warriors, big meat heads that are press ganged to fill in holes in existing chapters.
>>93236118>Loxatl are constant mercs among Chaos forces.Among Chaos forces, but not among Chaos Marine forces.
>>93236929Just buy one
>>93236946That's what they've been outside the Ultramarines.
When is the roadmap update? We're already at the end.
>>93236946But that's not what thunder warriors were.
>>93236970Every primaris story has them being beta fags that are moody all the time, doesn't help their image
>>9323697314th at tapioca or whatever the fuck its called.
>>93236980I don't read the horus heresy spin offs, thunder warriors are big gene junky tech barbarians that surged across the ash wastes of terra and were eventually executed. If a faggot wants to disagree I will rightfully ignore him
Give it to me straightAre Boxnoughts and Predators going to get squatted?
>>93236999Yes, they already have primaris equivalents.
>>93236999they should.
>>93236999If they squat them they'll become SOVL so it's fine.
>>93236882Indeed they are. By leaving them unpainted, it presents how you value both your property and how you value your image. They have a word for this: classless.
>>93236999Yes, so buy them now while you still can so you can mog all over the zoomers with their primaris shit
>>93236981Not all the time.
>>93236981They take after their primarchs whom take after their authors.
>>93236999Not for the next 2 years or so.
>try to keep primaris down>make them more powerful than ever before
Look, it's simple okay?I buy GW models I like, read and accept GW lore I like, buy GW paints I like, and use them all in non-GW games I like. Doesn't get any better than that. Okay?
>>93236915See >>93236932 for some Info about Harrowmaster. It generally gets hate here, but its not a bad book (compared to other BL stuff ofc)Also there is some stuff from Horus Heresy that pretty much shows perfectly how they operate:Deliverance Lost (a full novel about how they fuck over the Raven Guard on their home world)Alpharius (from the Primarch series)Hunters Moon (a short story inside the book 31 anthology, about a human operative causing an uprising on a backwater world)The Seventh Serpent is another short story (from book 50) about them playing tricks on the Iron Hands.
>>93237033This is a very standard marine affair, it would be kino if the primaris literally did just kill the arbite or have to be held back by his more refined, Emperor designed counterparts.
Why do grey models rustle jimmies so much?
>>93236802You don't, unfortunately GW utterly murdered the format in 8th by trying to turn it into an upscaled version of epic because it thought people honestly wanted to get their entire 3,000+ point collections together just to play for 2 hours.
It's gone... it's all gone
>>93237067Imagine painting lol
>>93237078They just know the elf player demographic
>Greytide nigger baitDon't be retarded anons.Don't take it.
>>93237078What is the worst selling 40k box?
>>93237086greytide shit isnt worthy of my acknowledgment or reply
>>93237092That might be it but honestly in hindsight I wish I'd gotten it because I ended up getting a lot of it separately anywayThen again if I'd gotten it pic rel would have been worse for me
>>93237092There were ALOT of bad versus boxes in 9th. >>93237106lolno, you can still find the boarding patrol for """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""demons""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>>93237064Tanthius there isn't an Arbites, he's a primaris lieutenant. Harox is a sergeant and he starts frothing at the mouth when this lieutenant shows up and starts talking about "logistics" and "strategy". Tanthius barely registers it and so just laughs it off.
>>93236833Oh, how the ignorant mock what they cannot comprehend. Your scorn and derision are but the bleatings of a sheep who has never glimpsed the true horrors of the universe. Let me enlighten you, though your feeble mind may recoil in fear."Bruh," you say, dismissing our truths with a wave. Yet it is you who is truly lost, blind to the cosmic forces at play. Your words, empty and shallow, cannot withstand the depth of Chaos. The "yikes" you proclaim is the cry of one who trembles before the unknown."Cringe", you call it. Yet what you fail to grasp is the eternal power we wield. The dark gods laugh at your petty judgments. The true yikes, dear fool, is reserved for those who stand against the tide of Chaos and believe themselves unscathed.Mock all you wish, but know this: our power is real, our dominion inevitable. The truths you dismiss as cringe are the very fabric of the universe. Continue your jesting, but when the darkness comes, you will find no comfort in your empty words.Hail Chaos! For the dark truth shall reign eternal, and all mockery will be silenced in the void.
>>93237067People put a lot of time and effort into their armies. A game is a fairly big time commitment and it's nice to share that time with someone equally invested in making a nice looking game and who obviously has priorities beyond just being there to win a match. Seeing someone who shows up to a game with grey models speaks of a person who's priorities lay in playing the game more than creating a pleasant experience. Not always the case, but enough of a warning sign.
Update on my fence.
>>93237069It's a bummer how little support the classic formats don't have anymore. Apocalypse is dead, planetstrike is dead, cities of death is dead, sub-2000 point games are possible but not as well balanced as before, combat patrol is a total meme tutorial format now, kill team was butchered into a board game with pre-designed teams instead of being the ultimate customization game it used to be.
It's already too late paintcucks>Imagine giving paint companies your money
Fellow firstborn enjoyers, what are your thoughts on using the new scouts alongside firstborn marines? For the record, I am using Tortuga bodies for my marines so they’re not out of scale. The main problem is how bad the new scout pistols look.
>>93237109Had to google that one.lol
>>93237126Personally, i think the new scouts look like utter shit
>>93237119Unremitting kino, anon.
>>93237078>>93237106I think the part of the story everyone always forgets with Blood of the Phoenix was that it was horrifically overpriced for a battle box. It was $300 at release. For mostly very old models at that point that anyone who cares about those factions already had.
>>93237125Kneel
>>93237140Yeah it pushed a new pricepoint too early.Now we've been buckbroken into accepting it.
>>93237145Thats a lot of grey, I'd be legit depressed if I had that many unpainted, unprimed models.
>>93237109A lot
>>93237145Imagine just hitting the whole spread with an airbrush with two different colors from two different angles. How little effort it would take to at least make them look like something other than grey plastic. In mere minutes.
>>93237170true
>>93237136Well a friend of mine gave me some as gift because he knew I was starting some marines, but I don’t think they’re all that bad. Wish the pistols weren’t so dumb looking or that their bolters weren’t bizarrely long, but the shotguns are neat.
>>93237126cutting off the pistols to replace them with spares (you should have plenty) isnt hard.
>>93237164Unironically me. I actually have so many grey models I want to sell them just to get rid of that sense of "too many to paint" I feel that stops me from even starting
>>93237145>>93237173DON'T STOP. JUST CONSOOM.
>>93237170I've seen lazy people do that before. It looks like shit on tabletop as soon as you shove them across the board and stop lining them all up so the mood lighting is coming from the same side.
>>93237136based braindead contrarian needing to spout old good new bad every chance he gets
>>93237180Unfortunately I don’t, or I would do that. The pistol hands I have are earmarked for an upcoming assault squad. Maybe they’d look better with some pvc rod suppressors modeled on.
>>93237173It's genuine mental illness at that point; there's no purpose to having ~15 unpainted land raiders
>>93237113>The "yikes" you proclaim is the cry of one who trembles before the unknown.kek
Why aren't there more shotguns
>>93237195Old scouts were utter shite as well.The issue isn't old vs new, the issue is that they're ugly and awful conceptually, especially considering phobos exists now making Scouts thematically pointless.
You people are fucking WEAK.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaYEP9T6_kI
>>93237198Could be, and certainly worth a try. Silenced Bolt Pistols certainly fit and look awesome. Or buy bolt pistols on ebay (or get them printed)
>>93237213Why do we need more shotguns
>>93237226It's the coolest weapon type.
>>93237220The old ones were disgusting.The new ones look acceptable (and better than the old ones, but that wasnt hard), but as you pointed out, completely unneeded in todays Marine Armies with several types of Phobos marines fulfilling their role already.Its nice for people who like their armies firstborn only i guess
>>93237224The painted chad and the greytide sigma are both above the worst of all players - those who paint a handful then give up.Commit to the bit
>>93237237But the new scouts *aren't* firstborn. Ignoring their scale being significantly taller than current firstborn marines like Deathguard and CSMThey have tons of design elements only found in primaris marines, like the random vents and the weird fucking circles on the backpacks
>>93237250kill yourself rivet counter
>>93237250But its far more easy to pretend them to be firstborn compared to Phobos trash minis.Also, it does not say "Primaris" in their rules, does it?
>>93237225These are good options. I’ll give it a go with the suppressed pistols and combat knives, I think.
>>93236513Bike and flying HQs.
>>93237078I actually bought that lol, painted like, two banshees and undercoated jain zar.Anyway, what are you working on? I'm alternating between Exorcists and biel tan today.
>>93237302Aaaand i just saw i broke of the bikers finger at some point, FUCK!
>>93237302How do you do the green for your Biel-Tan? Is that contrast? I like Eldar, if I ever get any, they’ll be Biel-Tan
Sometimes I wonder if having 2 separate space marine chapters is too much?I got the primaris first then got fully into my firstborn Deathwatch only army. So the primaris are going to be salamanders, but I'm debating popping off the Sally shoulders and making them Crimson fists instead.
>>93236106>>Xenos vs Imperium>kinoyes but only "classic" imperium. >space marines(non-special snowflake)>Guard>sistersI used to hate imperium factions and players, but over time I've learned to at least respect a few of them. There is a certain charm in a classic boxnaught for example or a tactical squad.
>>93236787yeah, there weren't many units you could customize enough to break would allocation but biker nobs were #1 assholes at it. I think finally getting some kommandos in the army might be next
>>93237302I'm working on Black Templar Terminators and a Biel-Tan Wraithlord, still all in the build process
Shower thoughts:Wouldn't it be proper 40k that now with the return of the primarchs and with gulliman trying to reform the imperium that the primarchs with their "oldfashioned" believes piss off so many higher ups that they declare them traitor and they have to work together with the renegade chapters in a new civil war making it a war between firstborn and primaris, old imperium vs new.
>>93237331These ones, basecoat, building up light with drybrushing, contrast and highlights.
>>93237399Shut up
>>93237302magnetized the avatar of khaine today, pretty happy with how it turned out. Still some ugly gaps I gotta fill tho
>>93237399YES YES PLEASE MORE MARINE MODELS PLEASE I NEED MORE MARINES THE GAME MUST HAVE MORE MARINES WE NEED EVERYTHING TO FOCUS ON MARINES!
>>93237402Nice, thanks anon.
>>93237399They literally tried that Day 1 and Guilliman put them down and replaced the upstart Lords of Terra.
>>93237433Newfag, you try too hard.
>>93236876You aren't subtle.
>>93237078I know you’re still pretty bad at it after seven years, but other people are good at painting and enjoy it.
>>93236946>big meat heads that are press ganged to fill in holes in existing chapters.That's what they are?Read the books, jogger.
>>93236151>>93235920>>93236423>Angron>Deamon primarch of Khorne. cg of close combat.>Has beaten 2 primarchs before. One of them being Russ.>Feels literal pain for every moment he's not in battle.>Razes worlds to the last man to give him some semblance of peace.>Is now immortal immortal. Doesn't even have to wait millennia to respawn.>Leading Khornes hosts as well as the world eaters >Scared of a fight with some psychopathic mushroom.bring it on green boy.
>>93237440What a shame. A new traitor war with the actual loyalists branded as traitors sounded kinda 40k like to me.>>93237433Not more models you would just use the old firstborn stuff or HH.>>93237406No you.
Vanilla marines, Orks, Eldar, Imperial Guard and Tyranids are all 40k needs. Everything else is just filler, and most of that filler isn’t very good.
>>93237493>Eldar
>>93237083cmon anon you can't be the gay playerbase and also be irreverent to style and flair.
>>93237501Yes.
>>93237501If Eldar weren't in that list, Space Marines would be the most gay faction by a large margin. You need the elves for contrast.
>>93237493Replace eldar with chaos and i agree.
>>93236946>>93236997>big meat heads that are press ganged to fill in holes in existing chapters.>big gene junky tech barbarians that surged across the ash wastes of terra and were eventually executedThey're the same picture.jpg
>>93237519>Replace eldar with chaosFuck off Slaanesh. You should have just done it right the first time.
posting unpainted models should be a bannable offense.
>>93237529I don't like slaanesh, i'd be fine with slaanesh being squatted.Khorne, Tzeentch and Nurgle is enough
>>93237519The only way I’d allow it is if the face of CSM was the Word Bearers. I’d still want to keep the space elves, though.
>>93237493>EldarReplace them with Necrons and yeah sure.
>>93237516>Space Marines would be the most gay faction by a large marginBut they still are, even with eldar in list.
>>93237565Nah. Crons are cool, though. They fall into the very narrow “good filler” category for me.
>>93237493>Eldar>Necrons>Tyranids>Orks>chaos>Imperial guardReally all you need. WFB was based so if we just make that in space it should also be based.
>>93237607>Implying Eldar are better than NecronsFoolishness
>>9323749340k doesn't need marinesorks, genestealers, admech and witch hunters alone encapsulate everything that's needed for 40knothing else is required, they cover everything good about 40k
>not one anon questioning the existence of orks in 40kyou love to see it. deep down everyone knows 40k would be nothing without orks.
>>93237565You can't have necrons without eldar. What would they do just wait until some admech trips into their tomb? That gets boring fast.
>>93237617I disagree.>>93237629>da vinci admech encapsulates 40k but marines don’tGross.
>>93237638Orks and marines are probably THE single most iconic armies in 40K. And pretty fun matchups on the table.
>>93237648I said admech, not da vinci admechand marines are a tumor on 40k, they row against the fundamental themes of the setting
>>93237561>the face of CSM was the Word BearersI'd allow it.
>>93237642>You can't have necrons without eldarAnon the Necron/Eldar 'rivalry' barely exists, and even then it's primarily one-sided with Eldar seething about Necrons existing while Necrons (correctly) consider Eldar to be a joke left over by the Old Ones. Necrons absolutely don't need Eldar.
>>93237652very true. orks v marines is always fun in both tabletop and lore.
>>93237666The fun is provided exclusively by the orks, marines don't contribute at all in that.Replace marines with even more orks and you get a much better experience.
>>93237629These people live among us and are allowed to vote.
>>93237714damn, you're righttfw only ork play at the store so i'll never experience kino orks v orks
>>93237629>>93237714I love seeing people still all these decades later seething about marine supremacy
>>93237652>Orks and marines are probably THE single most iconic armies in 40K.If you deleted orks or marines out of 40k, it just wouldn't be the same anymore.
>>93237662>Anon the Necron/Eldar 'rivalry' barely exists,>The war in heaven.>The reason both factions (and more) are the way they are.>The reason the galaxy is the way it is.>Most important conflict in the setting. Second most famous and only because spacemarines are the centerpiece faction.>primarily one sided (lol)If you take out eldar you take out the WiH. You take that out and you destroy the identity of the necrons. Necrons v Eldar is one of the most kino matchups in the setting.
