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>thread question
How often do you imagine a name for your build (proper name or nickname)? Any particular method to it?
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>>97011327
>Body Type:
Bipedal
>Racial Strengths:
Strong
Enduring
Attuned
Mystical
>Racial Weaknesses:
Short
Phobia (Agoraphobia)
>Starting Gear:
Paddle
Coin Pouch
>Class:
Arsenal
>Specializations:
Mountain Might (Basic)
Armoring (Master)
Battleforging (Master)
Beguilement (Basic)
>Abilities:
Weighted Strikes
Power Glove
Arcane Armor
Exoskeleton
Walker Suit
Strengthen
Weightless
Breaker
Assimilate
Charming Appearance
>Background:
School
>Skills:
Logistics
Cartography
Runemaking
>Traits:
Specialized
Runeforging (I always have an apprentice with me)
Encased
Fate-Touched (Runeforging)
Battlemage
>Item:
Spellcaster’s Ring
>Faction:
Association of Adventurers
>Dungeon:
The Mountain Keep
>Companions:
Sirena
Thorik
Grimir
Beyhan
(or none for Multiplayer)

Full mecha enhancement build, with agoraphobia leading into me just never leaving my mechsuit unless absolutely needed. Charming appearance helps to make it less weird for others to just see a suit of armor “acting” like an adventurer. I always have an apprentice adventuring with me as per my fate-touched deal with the runeforging spirits, which if anything is a bonus, as they can be an extra, more nimble set of hands as well as a more friendly face in cities and towns.
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realism mech OC creator back, I have returned to inform you anons that I have created a basic outline that took a few months. I needed to source all the features and mechanics based on VOTOMS and battletech but I can proudly say that by next month it'll be extensive as soul contract/oni slop.
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>>97011328
The Crippled Prophet

>Bipedal

>Strong, Enduring, Attuned, Mystical, Sharp Senses (sight) Cantrip (Divine Steed)

>Frail, Short, Delicate Back, Obsession (Religion)

>Bell, Coin Pouch

>Arsenal

>Spirit Warriors (Mastery), Virtues (Advanced), Congregation (Basic), Tactical Mastery (Mastery)

>School

>Logistics, Cartography, Morale Boost

>Prostrated, Clear Mind, Fate Touched (Prostrated), Battlemage, Blueblood, Everyman, Specialized, Spirit Medium

>Spyglass

>Association of Adventures

>The Prison

>Professor Sirena Conda, Korgalda, Tlaco the Tall, Beyhan

Going for a minionmancer type build here. Decided to go arsenal as I wanted to be immune to mind control since it is so devastating against a leader. Also, Congregation may be the core, but you only really need it at basic level. Tried to pick companions who can support my horde and keep me safe and am going for the Prison to get access to the fleshweavers.
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>>97011327
>Body Type:
Bipedal
>Racial Strengths:
Strong
Attuned
Mystical
>Racial Weaknesses:
Restricted Diet (Herbivore)
>Starting Gear:
Paddle
Bell
>Class:
Arsenal
>Specializations:
Virtues (Intermediate)
Congregation (Master)
Fighting Spirit (Advanced)
Necromancy (Basic)
>Abilities:
Conviction
Fanaticism
Enlightenment
Empower
Martyrdom
Phalanx
Enduring Spirit
Rallying Spirit
Tireless Spirit
Skeletons
>Background:
City
>Skills:
Negotiation
Morale Boost
Curse Breaking
>Traits:
Specialized
Angry Mob (All Companions and/or allies have Heavy Sleeper, and those that already have it are enhanced in severity)
Inspiring Presence
Slayer Clan
Blueblood
Fate-Touched (Angry Mob)
Battlemage
Nightwatcher
>Item:
Warden’s Badge
>Faction:
Brotherhood of Benevolence
>Dungeon:
The Prison
>Companions:
Alcheon
Thorik
Korgalda
Tlaco
(Or none for Multiplayer)

One man army, skeleton fodder enhanced through 9 separate methods to overwhelm the opposition, while any that die heal those that remain.
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>>97011327
First build idea reaching a satisfying enough conclusion, don't think I would choose that but it's coherent and powerful enough for my taste.

>Race
Bipedal, Strong, Agile, Enduring, Surge(physical) Cantrip(Dark Blows), Disrupted, Mundane, Restricted Diet(carnivory)
>Starting Gear
Broken Cutlass, Coin Pouch
>Class
Arsenal
>Specializations
Master : Steelflesh
Advanced : Fighting Spirit
Basic : Mountain Might & Night Beast
>Background
City or Dungeon Tribe
>Skills
Monster Knowledge, Negotiation, Dungeon Lore, Curse Breaking
>Traits
Skilled, Fast Metabolism, Thorough Digestion, Vegetarian, Secondary Brain, Blueblood, Fate-Touched(Vegetarian)
>Item
Rabbit's Foot
>Faction
The Fellowship of the Fearless
>Dungeon
The Spire
>Companions
Myserix, Sirena, Grimir, Beyhan
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>>97011362
Mid-Tier
Human
Freak Accident

The Psycho
Feel No Pain -1
Peak-Form -1

Practical Skills -1
Doctorate -2
Secret Identity -1
Sexy -1
Ancient Evil -1
Transformation +1

Superpowered Henchman
The Mercenary x4
Perfect Aim -4
Peak-Form -4

I am a Villain of time. Planning long schemes with a line of highly replaceable bodyguards that I raise and train.
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I finally decided on the pick-3 combination of Shed Life, Wandering Merchant, and Wandering Warrior.
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>>97011472
>If you roll, you can choose a 4th (1d40, or 2d20- first 20, 2nd 20)
I don't get it? Isn't the 2d20 option strictly superior?
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Rolled 17, 3, 20, 15, 19, 20 = 94 (6d20)

>>97011472
Rollan the 2nd version to see what monstrosity comes out
Surely I won't roll WA. What are the odds?
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Rolled 19, 6, 30, 37 = 92 (4d40)

>>97011472
>>97011476
Wish me luck!
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>>97011482
Well your rolling for an option so a higher number on average doesn't necessarily mean better options and you will be far more likely to get middle options and less likely to get edge options it's a bell curve with a 2d20 while with a 1d40 all the chances are equal.
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>>97011482
yeah, i have no idea what they meant by that... they were thinking of people who wanted to use actual dice, maybe? i just do d40 digitally when i feel like rolling.
>>97011486
double 20s is unfortunate, but the others aren't bad.
>>97011491
not going to manual-pick your fourth?
30 and 37 are pretty contradictory, better replace one of those
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>>97011476
>wholesome
>force feminizes you
Kill redditors.
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>>97011509
>not going to manual-pick your fourth?
Reading it again, it seems i can trade my 4th for 3 extra rolls. So i will do a writeup sometime today and add my extra rolls to that one.

>30 and 37 are pretty contradictory, better replace one of those
Dont see how? Doesnt matter anyway, will remove 30 cause it sucks. 37 can be fun once i´m bored sometime in a thousand years or so.
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>>97011532
What? Isn't it choose 3 or roll 3 if you roll 3 you can choose a 4th?
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>>97011500
It's not the sum of 2d20, it's "first 20, 2nd 20" and you get both, there's no bell curve.
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>>97011537
If you roll you get 1 free choice. Do a writeup and you get another one BUT if you roll, you can trade the 4th choice AND the extra writeup choice for 3 extra rolls. According to the last page.
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>>97011346
Opinion on the sensor field abjurer trait ?
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lol how is it possible to fuck up instructions so badly for such a simple thing. Is it that authors who would end up in this corner of the internets are just naturally bad at communicating?
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>>97011549
Ohh... that, well you are trading in 2 choose options for 3 rolls so it makes sense don't know if it's worth it but if you want to roll why not.
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>>97011544
Getting both seems illogical as why would something like this double the gains? And 2d20 is literally the sum of 2 d20 when you put it into goggle it gives you exactly that. First 20, 2nd 20nis so fucking vague I have no clue what it means? Do you sum them up, pick one of them, pick both, subtract, multiply? There is not context. If you gave someone a just sentence "first 20, 2nd 20" what can you even extrapolate from this? That two 20 exist what do you do with them, no clue
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>>97011605
There are 40 options. I think it's clear "first 20" means options 1..20, and "2nd 20" means options 21..40.
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>>97011615
But do you choose one of them do you get them both? As you can only roll 3 so you should only get 3 otherwise it turns into roll 6. And the usage of 2d20 makes it further unclear as traditionaly its the sum of those 2 rolls.
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>>97011482
it's like... if you're doing 4 rolls, you choose either 4d40 or 2d20+2(d20+20)
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>>97011624
you choose 3 options or roll 4 options
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>>97011327
Okay so from what I gathered
>Non Arsenal classes are kind of stuck with some dud abilities that people don't want or need
>Non Arsenal classes don't have a lot of choices
>A lot of traits still suck ass and some other traits are incredibly strong

I'll have to ponder some changes.
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>>97011472
anyway my combo for this cyoa is immortal chain + secret magic, all you need to do is grant wishes until someone frees you, after that your genie power lets you fuel your own magic so you aren't dependent on the demons for that
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>>97011642
but what do you do if your roll 3 options do you choose the 3rd option from the first half or the second half or is it any half you want? Because it says you can choose a 4th so its a choice not a roll. There is just a lot of nebulous things added which are not cleared up at all.
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>>97011472
>Fae Grace
>Live Life
>Dream Again
>Wandering Merchant

I'm not posting the wall of text, the short version is, Fae Grace and Live Life for QoL, the first one stopping only the detrimental mutations will be exploited, and Live Life's mind boost too (memorize lot of stuff, science, language, chemistry, food recipe, entertainment etc). Dream Again to not stay die and planeswalking, Wandering Merchant for some control over the planeswalking (I died but wasn't done with whatever, just go back, or a new reality is trash, then leave somewhere nicer).
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>>97011650
My man, Arsenal in general is a bad idea. The point of CYOA is theorycrafting the build that suits you best, who is going to skip arsenal when it has the most? And naturally that means the CYOA is awkward, because you can't meaningfully build around a bunch of singular classes and one omniclass well.
At this point in my view you have one of two options:

1) Remove Arsenal completely, but then make it so you can pick two classes. Builds become about interesting synergies between classes, but the limitations mean it's still actually about the classes.
2) Go all in on Arsenal. Make the CYOA entirely around the PC being an arsenal with the different classes being flavour of where the skills come from.
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>>97011732
>2) Go all in on Arsenal. Make the CYOA entirely around the PC being an arsenal with the different classes being flavour of where the skills come from.
It's already that to be quite honest with you, senpai...
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>>97011650
I also recommend buffing the power level of the Basic abilities (or whatever will take their place) a little bit. Besides being very narrow in most cases they often feel incredibly weak and not worth taking as they're written.
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>>97011702
Oh yeah that is something I noticed too. Good point.

>>97011732
Hm well the multi classing and mix matching would mean a bunch of more interesting build diversity

I could also just migrate a lot of the Arsenal traits as just general traits

And I could make a trait that boosts putting all points into one class. I had an idea of 3 passive free skills for each class, you pick 1 from your primary class, but if you go all in on one you get all 3.
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>>97011327
>Race
Bipedal, Strong, Enduring, Attuned, Mystical, Sharp Senses(hearing), Surge(magical), Resistant, Cantrip(druidism)
Frail, Short, Dulled Senses(smell), Slow Healer, Restricted Diet(herbivorous), Limited(cold)
>Staring Gear
Bell & Coin Pouch
>Class
Abjurer
>Specializations
Master : Warding
Advanced : Barrier Weapon
Intermediate : Shielding & Imprisonment
>Background
School
>Skills
Logistics, Ancient Languages, Cartography, Negotiation
>Traits
Skilled, Thorough Digestion, Demolisher, Heavy Sleeper, Specialized, Magic Guard, Mana Battery
>Item
Rabbit's Foot
>Faction
The Fellowship of the Fearless
>Dungeon
The Spire
>Companions
Hiyori, Throik Hammerbeard, Agrippa, Grimir Broadhoof

Strong and Enduring are for learning abilities that use them later, removing them wouldn't change how the build fight much if at all, no reason to got in melee myself just throw barrier needles if I want to deal damage myself.
Wondering if I should drop Skilled for Sensor Field and maybe take Reactive Magic too.
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>>97011823
When it comes to the racial strengths, I think it's mostly a matter of not having many ways to shift around stats.
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>>97011650
>A lot of traits still suck ass and some other traits are incredibly strong
This. Part of Arsenals popularity is a failure of each normal class to offer a fully competitive set of traits. There is usually a decent one or two but cherry picking the two best from all classes as an Arsenal (plus the arsenal traits) is better than the whole dedicated suites in most cases. Hell I have even tacked on the "skilled" traits to some of my Single class builds without any hesitation.
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>>97011369
did rake killed your dog
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>>97011472
I can never make a build for that CYOA - my need to hoard all golden artifacts and dispatch them around is too strong.
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>>97011888
Yeah I think I'll make a general trait that allows you to shift some stats around

Also probably limit the racial weaknesses to prevent too much minmaxing

>>97011892
Yeah I've noticed that when designing the companions, a lot of the traits are hard to build around

I think I'd need to lessen the drawbacks even more
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>>97011362
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>>97011650
If I take Arsenal and take some abilities from the Vampire class, does that grant me the eternal youth that Vampires enjoy?
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>>97011988
The secondhand embarrassment I get from reading this is unreal.
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>>97011327
>Another cyoa where people only post shopping lists
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>>97012041
No immortality, no image builds
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>>97012000
>>97008040
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>>97012045
Do you think I like image builds? They're worse than shopping lists.
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>>97012041
But there are various who posted their plans, are those too considered shopping lists?
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>>97012053
>Lying
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I know you guys love interactives, so here's some dark fantasy kino
https://normalsensei-ops.github.io/A-Dark-Fantasy-Adventure/
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>>97012076
>I know you guys love interactives
Refer to the post above yours.
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>>97012049
immortalityfags are in shambles as they have to earn their immortality
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>>97011944
He used a rake to do it; that's why he's called rake.
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>>97012065
The first answered build has a plan.
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>>97011327
>The Mountain Keep:
Mecha Enhancement https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97011327/#97011386

>The Catacombs:
Sadistic Centaur Cleric https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96999514/#97004194
Dwarf Monk https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97004626/#97006217

>The Prison:
Eranthis the Twiceborn https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97004626/#97009036
The Crippled Prophet https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97011327/#97011390
One Man Army https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97011327/#97011407

>The Caves:
Arcane Warrior https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97004626/#97009646
Classic Elf Mage https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97004626/#97006008
Sunbro https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97004626/#97007598

>The Spire:
Pocket Healslut https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97004626/#97004675
Remnant Tribesman https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97004626/#97004808
Jolly Monk https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97004626/#97005224
Backline Commander https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97004626/#97008743
Iron Chef https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97004626/#97008452
Cataclysm Fairy https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97004626/#97008471
Indominable Spellblade https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97004626/#97008641
Armored Juggernaut https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97004626/#97010111
Fresco https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97004626/#97011108
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97011327/#97011431
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/97011327/#97011857
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>>97011472
Live Free, Secret Magic, Elemental Bond (Earth)

Use Live Free to undo any negative consequences of my rituals (potentially allowing me to regain my virginity and thus sell it over and over again). Earth being a solid object means I can just wear a stone ring all the time to become basically invincible, plus I have powerful geokinesis and a useful (if somewhat slow) teleport.
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>>97012190
The Spire guys are NGMI
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>>97012049
So the CYOA is unplayable good to know
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>>97012227
TroyX chad...
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>>97012190
Now assemble your party.
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>>97012190
Damn, some people don't even post images along with their builds anymore. It's so Reddit...
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>>97012226
I don't even understand what's so lethal about the spire from its description it doesn't seem that dangerous
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>>97012226
nuh uh
Our spire HEROES run a train on the healslut and the mad sorceress after conquering the spire in a single day
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>>97012041
>muh hecking deep builds!
Shut the fuck up bitch, its a cyoa not a homework.
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>>97012190
>everyone switched from mountain keep to spire
grimmy
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>>97012248
It's the most dangerous one.
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>>97012248
If you don't think liches or fuckhuge demons are dangerous, along with reality warper boss that can just make your party stuck in a 1x1 meter room with no exits, you might be retarded
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>>97012076
The fact you must pick the same side thrice in the eclipse section to see the endings is annoying.
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>>97011532
Is that Sellen? Why did the greatest sorceress become a ball?
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Alright I have some ideas in mind for changes.

Each class will have 6 skills, 3 levels of potential for each ability. You get 6 points for a primary class and 3 for a secondary. Each class has 3 passives you can pick from. But you only get 1 of them and you can only take passives from your primary class.

There's a special beneficial trait for if you forgo the secondary class and use all 9 points on the primary to give you all the passives.

I'm probably going to drop Arsenal as a class since now you can mix classes as you wish.

As for traits I think I'll have to overhaul almost all of them. I think I might reduce the number. I might need some ideas for traits. The drawbacks probably have to be completely avoidable through character design.
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>>97012441
>greatest
Thats Rennala
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Dispatch cyoa?
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>>97011327
Engideer

>Body: Taur
>Strengths: Agile, Attuned, Mystical
>Weaknesses: Weak
>Gear: Shortbow, Bell
>Class: Engineer
>>Balistics – Advanced
>>Alchemy – Master
>>Golemancy – Intermediate
>>Armoring – Intermediate
>Background: City
>Skills: Locksmithing, Maintenance, First Aid, Runemaking
>Traits: Skilled, Potion Connoisseur, Thorough Digestion, Savant, Runeforging
>Item: Spellcaster's Ring
>Faction: he Brotherhood of Benevolence
>First Dungeon: The Caves
>Companions: Lady Myseryx Honeyglow the Fourth, Hiyori, Alcheon, Beyhan

Most might expect the lithe magically inclined cervitaurs to stick to being Wardens prancing through the woods. I personally don't care for such stereotypes. I am quite happy to use the power of SCIENCE!
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Elden ring cyoa?
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>>97012481
>make elden ring cyoa
>everyone hates it because "nooo thats not how the lore is"
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>>97012441
Too much elite ball knowledge
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>>97012481
There is a NSFW one
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>>97012452
Rennala is so bad she made a useless spell outdone by one that costs half the amount of intelligence lmaooo
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>>97012479
>Engideer
lol…
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>>97012625
I am quite proud of that one.
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>>97012076
>"It did not X. It did not Y. It only Z."
I hate the AI antichrist. The true grimdark is forcing people to read it 9999 times.
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>>97012452
If Rennala is the best wizard ever why does she need to use a staff while the others don’t?
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>>97012659
Women need to grip phallic objects to cast magic. Men just need to stare into orbs (symbolic of both balls and boobs) and ponder magic into existence.
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>>97012677
This is perfect wizard logic. I like you.
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>>97012683
When did you realize that a good chunk of science is just pondering orbs, both big and small? This includes rotations.
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>>97012653
>All bad writing is AI now
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Wizards will openly state their pondering orbs(balls) in their towers(phallic) then try to deny being gay
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>>97012696
Read through the CYOA and you'll see that at least 80% of it is AI-assisted. It does that thing I'm talking about a thousand of times.
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>>97012695
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8OAD4B925PA
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>>97012711
It's hard to discern when those wizards are constantly shifting from looking like bearded old men to turning themselves into little girls back and forth
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>>97012076
AIsloppa
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>>97012763
>posting the kitchen sink slop abomination instead of kino
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Is it too late to post a Halloween CYOA?
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>>97012869
No. It's not yet December, after all.
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>>97011820
This is something that occurred to me. Certain abilities and traits are just like “holy shit why would I ever.” Or does a great job of selling just how dangerous this dungeon and world are, so I’m not gonna take too many risks. This applies to companions as well, since there is one per class I feel very incentivized to narrow my focus and create a balanced party. When the cyoa wants you to play smart you really notice the weaknesses in your build that you might otherwise handwave in a more light-hearted cyoa
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>>97012885
I remember the previous version having a trait that gave more spell power but mind-affecting ability weakness. I picked it that time but in this version I immediately decided it's one of the NGMI abilities because every dungeon now has some mind-affecting danger (at least in theory)
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>>97012763
Shame bears only makes small CYOAs otherwise, love this one.
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>>97012916
Traitor.
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>>97012735
In all great wizard’s beards, there is a loli to be found. Similar to how all Jews have bags of gold around their necks.
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>>97011327
I desperately want a blue mage class but I think it would be too strong
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Opinions on fairy companions?
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>>97012947
Warrior can steal monster powers, IIRC.
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>>97012448
class change sounds really good

>As for traits I think I'll have to overhaul almost all of them
I don't think the current traits were that bad
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>>97012958
Always good.
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>>97012987
Some of them are simply flavor with a drawback and no real benefit. Usually fine in others, but not so much this one
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>>97012448
Don't drop Arsenal, some people would still want to do something like 3/2/2/2 points to abilities from 4 different classes.
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>>97012958
>Opinions on fairy companions?
Tiny pixies a la Tinkerbell? Or the statuesque sidhe/Tuatha de Danaan-type that inspired Tolkien's elves?
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>>97012922
I'm loyal to CYOAs, not whatever autisitc skubwar you're obsessed with.
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>>97013102
>whatever autisitc skubwar you're obsessed with.
The old Reddit v. 4chan one, I think.
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>>97013072
>Or the statuesque sidhe/Tuatha de Danaan-type that inspired Tolkien's elves?
Tolkien wasn't inspired primarily by Celtic fairies (though he did take some influence,) he was mostly inspired by Germanic elves. There's a distinction.
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>>97013102
Anon that's not how the game is played. You're supposed to despise /cyoar/ and the subreddits on instinct, else you're not one of the boys.
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>>97013072
Fairies/pixies. The kind that can fly around and sit on your shoulder.
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>>97013142
I don't want to be one of the boys so I think I'm good senpai.
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>>97013150
And that's the part where we call you a sissy/tranny, you see.
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>>97013163
And that's fine, because I don't care.
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>>97012958
I always liked them, because their whimsy natures overlap thematically with the concept of escapism and CYOAs itself.
Also they're usually more optimistic than the rest of the companions, which is a breath of fresh air for some CYOAs with high stakes.
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>>97013140
Really? I see a lot more Tam Lin than Erlking in them.
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>>97013182
Sauron is pure dokkalfar/Niflheim/svartalfar, though
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>>97013190
(And anyone who is fluent in Scandinavian tongues, please forgive my rushed attempt to get the spellings right.)
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>>97013182
That's because you're looking at too late of an influence. Don't look at the Erlking, who is much later and warped by Christian influence, look at alfr in the Norse Sagas, closer to the pagan source. The Noldor are outright svartalfr in everything except skin color, it's why he was cheeky and had them be friends with the dwarves (who are partially made up of the much later 'dwarf' corruption of the svartalfr.)
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>>97013149
Depends a lot on the personality. I'm not sure I'd get along with the classic J.M. Barrie/Disney version of Tinkerbell, but I have nothing against the basic idea. Could even be fun, with the right fairy.
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Lowest iq author?
Highest iq author?
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>>97013289
gil
Tok
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>>97013321
damn, they're all that dumb?
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>>97013289
>Lowest iq author?
Anonymous authors. Not only do they not monetize anything in the present, they are also failing to build up a brand which could be monetized at a later point.
>Highest iq author?
DragonJak.
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>>97013350
Tok has a very high IQ, not sure if I would say hes an outright genius but hes defiantly close to it.
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>>97013289
Hard to tell. It can take a lot of brains to make a fun "dumb" cyoa.
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>>97013419
a dragon cyoa
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>>97013355
Quick rundown?
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>>97013419
A cyoa where you're a dragon. At least one of these applies to them:
1. too short
2. not exclusively about being a dragon
3. really bad
For example: in protector of the new world or lusus naturae you can make a decent dragon but they're not CYOAs about being a dragon. Hatchling is about being a dragon and is decent but us way too short.
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>>97013444
Anon is measuring their IQ by their ability to make money. DragonJak is (in)famous for his Patreon.
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>>97013289
aro for both.
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>>97013490
Isn't that just what ledditors do in general? I remember at least one or two other jabronis who were "accepting CYOA commissions" or somesuch, always cracks me up
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>>97013419
There's no big and serious zombie cyoa, I think? There's plenty of zombie cyoas, but they're short and/or shitposty. But picture a zombie cyoa with a big map, and you make decisions according to the adjacency of things on a map (the mall is adjacent to the church, the church is adjacent to the highway, etc).
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>>97013520
Cool idea, reminds me of Last Stand series of flash games.
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>>97013490
It's kinda weird how I only know of two cyoa creators having patrons and both of them have dragon in their name and do NSFW cyoas
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>>97013419
Outer God/Great Old One cult leader CYOA
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>>97013520
I think the whole post-apocalyptic genre is lacking? Off the top of my head I remember Atomic Odyssey, Patrollers and Dark Zone... That's it.
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>>97013552
Eigenweapon.
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>>97013558
I hate that one. It felt like a lot of isolated good ideas mixed into a slop (in a regular non-AI sense). I take personal offense in the fact that it's called Eigenweapon and those Eigenweapon monsters just get a short description, there's no mechanics of confronting them or surviving them, it's just fluff and nothing else.
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>>97013558
Oh right. I don't usually play Aro cyoas, so I forgot it.
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>>97013036
And it would still be bullshit.
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>>97013558
Trash
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>>97013593
And it's fine if those 2 or 1 class-builds get some unique buffs.
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>>97013520
CC
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>>97013575
>a lot of isolated good ideas mixed into a slop
Yeah, because all those good ideas were directly lifted from other people.
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>>97011327
>Body Type:
Bipedal
>Racial Strengths:
Strong
Enduring
Tough
Resistant
>Racial Weaknesses:
Disrupted
Mundane
>Starting Gear:
Broken Cutlass
Coin Pouch
>Class:
Arsenal
>Specializations:
Masochism (Basic)
Mountain Might (Basic)
Healing Hands (Advanced)
Fighting Spirit (Master)
>Abilities:
Strength From Agony
Weighted Strikes
Healing Fist
Invigorating Fist
Draining Fist
Enduring Spirit
Rallying Spirit
Tireless Spirit
Resurrection
>Background:
Rural
>Skills:
First Aid
Survival
Curse Breaking
>Traits:
Fast Metabolism
Specialized
Spartan Upbringing
Simple
Fate-Touched (Simple)
>Item:
Rabbit’s Foot
>Faction:
Brotherhood of Benevolence
>Dungeon:
The Catacombs
>Companions:
Hiyori
Tessa
Korgalda
Jorvan
(Or none for Multiplayer)

Spite build against the trap class anon, near-immortality with no mana and no vampire abilities; Strength From Agony, Healing Fist, Fast Metabolism, and Specialized First Aid help me recover faster after a resurrection, while Specialized Curse Breaking can remove any lasting, non-fatal debilitating effects. Weighted Strikes and the other Fist abilities give me more offensive power and utility than just survivability.
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>>97012597
That one was grotesque. I sat through it and reasoned that the author and Tok were of one tainted soul.
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>>97013611
Does this really count
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>>97013419
Would be interesting to have a cyoa where instead of being the overpowered main character your the middling power companion and you need to use your limited resources and clues from the cyoa events, quests, enemies and companion description to develop a proper build to exploit your situation. But it would require way too much skill to execute this concept well that your more likely to get a overpowered waifu builder or masochistic try your best to survive in your shit situation cyoa or just generic isekai shit.
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>>97013648
No that sounds terrible and boring to be some loser who dies. Your only hope in such a CYOA would b to find the hero and join his harem.
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>>97013596
>t. tok cyoa enjoyer
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>>97013658
I'm going to genderbend the hero and make HER join mine actually
>but plot ar-
Nah I'd win, I'm going to change the tags of this story to include mtf, mind break, corruption
I'm still going to be the good guy btw
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>>97013648
I and probably many other anons hate events sections, it's a polarizing and brave decision to focus the cyoa on events.
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>>97013688
>choose your own adventure
>he just wants character creators with no adventure choices
please leave.
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>>97013648
Would be interesting to have a cyoa where you fantasize about making a cyoa but can't do it because you have no imagination or skill.
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>>97013695
Nah that Surincal slip was absolute shit because of events for example.
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>>97013721
All surincal cyoas are bad, what are you on about?
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>>97013721
Slop*
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>>97013729
The great stage would have been passable without the railroading of the events.
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>>97013695
Without events/quests, I use the cyoa to configure the setup. When I'm done configuring, the cyoa finishes and the adventure starts. There's a clear START point. The future transpires in an indeterminate but partly predictable way, and that's freeform future is what I daydream of, it's a single contiguous thing.
While events mean that you run from cutscene to cutscene. There's no clear START point, some kind of cutscenes keep interfering with where you'd end up. Artificial and disruptive of the fantasizing.
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>>97013741
>The Great Stage
95% of its text was generated by an LLM
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>>97013755
Yes and? The LLM railroaded a shit story on us.
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>>97013658
Well essentially you would start in the hero harem or the demon lord harem depends on the flavor. Essentially your writing the prophecy for all of it. Your just going to be some by the world standards a powerful individual but compared to the overpowered hero or the main villain. You would essentially be building the whole prophecy and heroes journey and trying to choose the most beneficial choices for yourself be it by customizing yourself, the hero character, the rest of the companions or the events. Maybe you manipulate the hero, betray them, somehow kill them, seduce them, usurp them or whatever else. But as I said you would need really good writing skills to execute it well so it would most likely end up shit. But I just like it conceptualy.
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>>97013768
I’m responding to you saying it was passable without the events. The rest of it was generated too, it was all bad.
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>>97013803
It had other flaws but the railroading was #1.
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>>97013803
I liked the idea behind getting MMO-like powers and weapon upgrades from gamer ayy lmaos and trying to game the system and get the most of your shit package. The implementation wasn't great though.
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>>97012052
Image builds are the best kind of build, get with the times old man
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>>97012448
Add immortality to traits so I can make a true elf
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>>97012763
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>>97013859
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>>97013828
The concept was definitely there and by no means were the quests the only issue but it would have been a step in the right direction. Compare that to CC's quests and you immediately see the issue. Events if they are good, truly optional and make sense for us to have foreknowledge of don't break the open endedness for me.
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>>97013520
How about a Fulcrum-tier long list of companions, and you roll about 5 of them to be stuck with in a zombie apocalypse?
Maybe you'll roll capable survivors, maybe you'll roll obese otakus, maybe you'll roll violent drug addicts, maybe you'll roll people who would work fine separately but can't work together, or the other way round.
I'd play that.
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>>97013721
Can't you ignore the unsanctioned mission and write your own adventure? They're just a glorified tour around the world if you think about it.
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>>97013963
>Fulcrum-tier
Spess Refugee-tier*
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>>97013845
And tok authors are the best kind of authors, get with the times old man



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