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Post an actually good cyoa
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>>97671154Arguably his worst one to date. Mushoku Tensei > Harry Potter > Danmachi(v2) >>> Harbinger >>> Fairy Tail >>> Mythic Shit
>>97671164He ruined HP when he changed some of the companion images
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How do you know its a he and not a she?
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>>97671178Because the only woman here is matterwife, and you're not her.. right anon?Because if you were, daddy would be upset that his wife isn't in the kitchen.
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>>97671184>he actually wants a curry sandwich Anon no
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>>97671194Made for molestation.
>>97671164weird tasteHarbinger >> Mushoku Tensei > Mythic Lands = Danmachi = Harry Potter >> Fairy TailI didn't like the Mushoku cyoa at first, but it grew on me. I appreciate the original setting of Mythic Lands but it hasn't drawn me to make another build, while I've returned to Mushoku a bunch of times.
>>97671204Mythic Lands has offensively forced balance. The race selection is weird.
>>97671213Didnt it also attempt to shoehorn its way into the dungeons & dragons multiverse as well
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>>97671213I agree, there's lots of problems, and some things I subjectively dislike (the quests). Harbinger's quest/event system was pretty good, imo: at years x, y and z the described events happen, and you have to pick 3 to participate in, in some substantial way, but the rest happen also.
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>>97671224finally, a good cyoa.
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We need more "traditional fantasy" cyoa. Too much isekai/anime shit nowadays.
>>97671420Just play the isekai and assume you're a native.
>>97671432Isekai settings are not classical fantasy settings even without the "isekai" garbage.
Oh no, we deal with a native isekai believer here. A very special kind of schizo.
>>97671436How so?
>>97671458Are you asking me how Isekai/"anime fantasy" settings are different from traditional western fantasy like the forgotten realms or dragonlance? Really?
You will never beat Orsted lol
https://imgchest.com/p/na7konjjwy8Sprt. Cnscrpt.
>>97671464>Forgotten Realms>DragonlanceHaven't seen them. IIRC the first one is Dungeon and Dragons, but we don't have cyoas about that setting.But essentially yes. Dark Lords, common races like elves and dwarves, vague medieval stasis - most of the tropes and building blocks are there. Do you have others example of traditional western fantasy?
You will never beat Ottar lol
>>97671509You can essentially use rulebooks as cyoas.
>>97671500>>97671531who?
>>97671540Someone from Danmachi.
I blame gil for the "you cant beat X" trope.
You will never beat Gil lol
You will never beat the Uruks. Easy points, right? Wrong. You: a dweeb reincarnator at the start of his journey, still a child in body. The Uruk: murderous self-replicating hulks designed by the Gods to wreak havoc upon the world. You will not die, your letter does not allow you to, but you will wish you had.
>>97671545Orsted is from Mushoku Tensei. It’s a joke with that particular author’s cyoas that you cannot triumph over the strongest characters, since said cyoas are usually based on some childish anime franchise setting where power levels take priority over everything, even to the point where physics is playdough if swords are more practical than guns then you know the world is softer or slowed down or something, but for some reason the author doesn’t want the player to be the top of the totem pole.
The only one I really want to beat now is a certain shitty ritualposter.
>>97671571And then they'll drag me to their rape dungeon and defile me for days, right?
>>97671588It's just not the same if they lack genitalia. They probably do something else instead.
>>97671578Do it anon! I believe in you!
>>97671595b-but rape is supposed to be the evilest thing possible... are uruks even trying?
>>97671600They're not meant to be as evil as possible, they're meant to be a challenge for dungeon crawlers. Unfortunately the rest of the world is nowhere as difficult to survive in as their native habitat. Ethically, uruks are akin to invasive mold.
>>97671600Rape isn’t the evilest thing possible. That would be saying the n-word. Saying the n-word is more evil than the grooming and rape of children.
>>97671615Tourette’s is racism
>>97671508Does Waning Lunar Eon even make you ageless?
>>97671654No.
>>97671661Then what's the point? Aren't the legend statuses meant to be the ultimate immortality methods?
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>>97671571Uruks are easy fodder for a mage, you do have magic anon? your not one of those shitty martials like the Uruks?
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>>97671676heh, I traveled back in time and spawn camped that bitch
>>97671686>heh, I traveled back in time you're inside HIS timeloop, he'll spawn camp YOU
>>97671674Iirc we were given few specifics on how OR magic actually works on the scale of a fight. It must be weak enough to justify warfare based on massed men armed with pikes and muskets. (You)r magic if you took the relevant perks will be better, of course, but at least before you get mentored you probably shouldn't assume to much of it.
>>97671676Rape face
>>97671704untimeskip
>>97671723desu I forgot that.
>>97671667They're all incompetent. Only one gives immortality, and none give true immortality.
gil pls
>>97671588Softie...
>>97671740Why do gays want to be brutalized so badly anyway?
>>97671702Just time travel before his timeloop starts and set up a trap at his spawn location so he just fucking dies every time he respawns
Orsted is canonically a virginYou know what that means
>>97671704Magic is a narrative toolThe reason it doesn't get overused is because that would drain the meaning of it and because ymrd doesn't want that>>97671676I would simply be moderately helpfulEventually he will get over whatever moral grievances he may have and ally with me "For the greater good"Shit's easy>>97671747If you do that the man god will probably kill youHe wouldn't be mad, he's just a sadist with no real loyalties
>>97671747He'll tank your best shot and then alter events so you're never born.
>>97671759That he can see unicorns?
>>97671759He'll loses to the bussy
>>97671767>Magic is a narrative toolAlways has been. Never hasn’t been. In any fiction.
>>97671746Same reason they make memes about getting spitroased by snakecock I guess.
>>97671767>Magic is a narrative tool>The reason it doesn't get overused is because that would drain the meaning of it and because ymrd doesn't want thatWait so the elder gods might cockblock optimized builds who always wins because "muh narrative" ? Fucking unplayable.
>>97671786If you think the writer knows the strongest builds in the setting they wrote you have totally lost your mind
>>97671794It's okay as long as they don't nudge things to make it more interesting. I didn't spend hours on a build just for a roastie to go "erm aktchually this isn't fair to my special snowflake pygmy so you lose :)"
>>97671811YMRD, our hero, Would never let this happenSrtr also wouldn't, but mainly because she wants to see her favourite heroines get instantloss'd by the outsider
>>97671811The only goddess with a fairness fallacy is Charlote. You know what has to be done.
>>97671786if you hate magic, you can always go the causality route, the ecumene do their supernatural effects trough causality instead of god script, this is why they use methamagic as causality can be assumed to be easier to manipulate when God-Script is stripped from the equation and everything is reduced to just numbers.
>>97671164>>97671204>Mushoku Tenseipost this one
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>>97671838>if you hate magic, try magic instead sigh
>>97671838Isn't using mathemagic equivalent to bending over to the Usurper?
>>97671771just go on your own timeloop training arc before Orsted starts his timeloop and craft the greatest nuke.
>>97671848just sartre it lmao
>>97671838Everything technically can be stripped to numbers. Even god-script. Just going by basest logic impossible to remove from any fiction.
>>97671856>Everything technically can be stripped to numbers.Not me.
>>97671860Are you yourself? That’s a one (1).
>>97671860Of course not, Eleventh.
>>97671847Not really, your just using the same weapon the Ecumene uses, one of the Mentors teaches you Mathemagic and they are considered one of the greatest traitors to the Ecumene
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>>97671876literally me btw, although i couldn't grow a beard at that age
https://imgchest.com/p/5xy22anpnylhttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ObgmLnSo5yEod3g8r08FV_4Hc72s4RHK
>>97671856well yes, Charlie is abusing that very thing to use the power of causality, well and by extension the Ecumene as a whole. Is it not their goal to strip the godscript, kill the narrative until only the underlying logic remains?
CYOAs for this feel?
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>>97671862>Are you yourself?No. I'm Richard Merryweather.
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>>97671876Why does logic piss you off? If you weren’t so triggered you wouldn’t actually be bothered by people like matterqueer.
>>97671862Shouldn't I be Self[0]?
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>>97671907Wasn't there a trash cyoa about incest that started with a disclaimer about the ghost of freud getting stronger each time you played it?It wasn't any good but I remember that being the opening
>>97671922>Why does logic piss you off? If you weren’t so triggered you wouldn’t actually be bothered by people like matterqueer.
>>97671925A zero is a one going by binary sense. A one is a two. Binary means two, but it uses 0 and 1, not 1 and 2.
>>97671936Actually binary is a representation system that uses powers of 2 to condense numbers, it does not necessarily use any symbols to represent said numbers
>>97671907here you go, mommy yurihttps://imgchest.com/p/md7oxk697p6
>>97671952Binary uses 0 and 1 because they represent two distinct physical states—off/on, low/high voltage—ideal for electrical transistors. The symbol 0 represents "none" or "no flow" (false/off), while 1 represents "some" or "flow" (true/on), making it a natural, efficient system for computing logic. Using 1 and 2 would break the positional number system.
>>97671907https://imgchest.com/p/bp4529ag45lhttps://imgchest.com/p/vj4jdr3948mOuter Reincarnation itself, since you can romance Mother/Mentor options.Pantheon of Pleasure the nanosecond you encounter an older female.Like a Rising Dragon assuming you manages to get Eleanora.Blood Magic/Magocratic Convention because they live very long (DON'T ROMANCE DIDO FOR THE LOVE OF GOD)Glowfish (the character) is conceptually in her gentle mommy phase so her cyoa too.Witch Awakening is teeming with groomers for (You).Lady's Very Own. It's one of her possible relationship with you.Be the Monster. Baked-in.Radiant. You know why.Luminary by Italics, playable in bizarro /cyoag/
Literally NOBODY can beat a Metamage with the Spirit Fire, Exalt and Minion spells, loool. Ain’t nobody can. Nope. No one.
>>97671734>The strongest dynasty, the most versatile techniques, the best immortalityWhy did PCA favour alchemy so much?
>>97671984a god can beat anyone once
>>97671984>Spellthief
>>97671962"1" and "0" are notation, typically used as a part of arabic numeralsBinary is the act of condensing a large number into powers of 2, but it does not neccacarily include using a specific set of symbolsLike you have mentioned binary is used as a calculative tool, where the wires in a computer run through and or and not gates to calculate a number. This happens independently of symbols use to represent them. The symbols are irrelevant but the condensation is quite important for calculating quickly and efficientlyActually, trinary was a suggested manner of computing (Using forward, backward and still), and may well have been more efficient then binary computinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ternary_computer
>>97671989its to symbolize how unbalanced the whole cyoa is
>>97672003>>97671508If you focus on Core.
>>97671989It makes sense. All cultivation stems from alchemical logic. All of it. East and west it was apparent, that this was the case. The idea that you could perfect or transmute the body went along with the idea that you could perfect or transmute the materials of the world. This is the whole point of the distinction between inner alchemy and outer alchemy within Taoist philosophy, Hermetic philosophy, Indian philosophy, etc. Alchemical beliefs went hand in hand with mysticism.
>>97672008hissss
>>97672003Tentacle realm
>>97672003Real Life
>>97672003Monstergirl Fantasy Isekai, if you are a NeutralGOD
>>97671997>"1" and "0" are notation, typically used as a part of arabic numeralsAnd in regards to binary logic they suffice more than enough. The symbols 0 and 1 work splendidly in regards to mathematical philosophy when it comes to existential arguments over basest existence. Even an absolute void, or a total nothing, is still a one, at the end of it. The concept of true zero is beautiful, because it’s impossible. Zero is one. The smallest point of existence. A point is still a point.
>>97671907NGL I don't get mommy fetishes I think of my mom and I immediately lose my libido.
>>97672012WHY do you hate explanations? You asked why alchemy should be the most powerful form of your favorite power system. I just told you why. Although I do think it should have the lowest lows and the highest highs. Just knowing how to make pills won’t enable you to become a total sage or wizard.
>>97671989have you tried punching harder?
>>97672032I'm not buying any of your poop dairy.
>>97671990Yeah but then you’re kicked out of the cyoa
>>97672024No, set theory works like that because we defined a setA true void cannot be observed or categorized, because our observing it breaks the symmetry
>>97672043its a one for one trade in a way, you can kill anyone kicking them out of the cyoa at the cost of yourself being kicked out of the cyoa
>>97672024>The symbols 0 and 1 work splendidly in regards to mathematical philosophy when it comes to existential arguments over basest existence. Even an absolute void, or a total nothing, is still a one, at the end of it. The concept of true zero is beautiful, because it’s impossible. Zero is one. The smallest point of existence. A point is still a point.woaaah
>>97672030Weird, i think of your mom and i get sprung.
>>97672053Nope. You’re failing logic class again. A true nothing cannot exist. It just can’t. A nothing is still a something.
>>97671224Who are the best parents?
>>97671576>but for some reason the author doesn’t want the player to be the top of the totem pole.Then he did a terrible job with Mushoku Tensei, you just need to work for it
>>97672070nta but logic (i.e. set theory) is invariant of reality. it doesn't matter if it can exist or not, that's not the department of logic: that is what experiment and the scientific method is for.
>>97672070I touch it and it becomes, but I am logically aware that it previously wasn'tI can see my hands, and I know the fingerprints are on my hands and not the worldYou would make a very shitty physicist
>>97672042Oh my GOD anon. How many times do I have to tell you that I’m not a stinky Jeet. I didn’t even pour bleach on my skin; and I work with corrosive chemicals for a living.
>>97672081>nta but logic (i.e. set theory) is invariant of realityNope. If you think basest math/quantification isn’t inseparable from existence, you’re sadly not my intellectual equal. As is usual. >>97672082Are you a probabilist? You actually believe in Lolsorandom? Jesus.
>>97672091If you posted your female breasts I would stop doubtingOther then that, nothing
>>97672082>You would make a very shitty physicistDo you really think the moon isn’t there when you face way from it? Do you really think a tree that falls doesn’t make sound when no one is around to hear it?
>>97672082NTA, huh? but there is no absolute void in physics
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>>97672081The scientific method isn’t exactly one sided. There’s going to be scientific processes running in the background whether we notice them or not. Math.
>>97672082>You would make a very shitty physicistThere's a reason we stopped calling him physicsfag.
>>97672109They hate him so much they will argue against common sense kek
this thread smells of curry and diarrhea
>>97672125>the sky is blue- >LOL NO ITS NOT YOU’D MAKE A BAD PHYSICISTThis is a form of projection
>>97672099>JesusYOU'RE JEWISH!>Are you a probabilist? You actually believe in Lolsorandom?Is this being rehashed from the other day?YesThings might happen>>97672109Well anon, a large part of modern physics is about working with limited and bais data and trying to draw out the nature of reality from from behind it. For example, when looking for planets we have found almost only planets larger the jupiter, because the smaller a planet is the harder it is to detect. Being aware of the apperatus and techniques you use to discover something is integral to pushing the limits of humanities knowledge.>>97672107I think that When I measure things it implies things about them>>97672125Yeah, I know
>>97672152>Things might happenThings that can happen, will happen, is a lot different from spontaneous happening. The 21st century wouldn’t just spontaneously appear.
>>97672115Cat hand mogging for the second time
>>97672159>The 21st century wouldn’t just spontaneously appearThe assumption that everything has a logical explanation is often useful, but occasionally schizophrenic
>>97672152Sadly you’ve played into the scientific trap model because you cannot actually think for yourself. Keep being a sheep.
>>97672173The alternative is assuming it cannot be. Cannot exist. It’s like being a Christian arguing against materialism. They’re now arguing against God’s existence. The material, reality, nature, existence, science, physics, etc; it’s all the same shit.
>>97671508What does the mighty grindstone stance being part of the 108 sokushinbutsu stances do for you exactly?
Something doesn’t come from nothing lol The absolute state of science today (“what IS a woman anyway?” - Neil science black man )
>>97672186you get to use technique artistry with sokushinbutsu to get the benefits of grindstone tooor you get to signature grindstone so it gets the benefits of sokushinbutsu
>Spirit Conscript starts getting builds again.>Site shuts down immediately after.This can't be a coincidence...
>>97672099>Nopei'm sorry you feel that way. feel free to pick up an elementary text on mathematical reasoning. what you're looking for is "gaining mathematical maturity". >>97672117are you thinking about generating heuristics? the scientific method is a pretty specific thing.
>>97672211The powers that be can't have the truth getting out.
>>97672182A thing is defined by it's interactions with other thingsThere is, eventually, a monad, that has no interactions with anything outside of itselfAll monads equally lieChess and checkers and every branch of mathematics, and even our own world can be contained as self insisting infinite setsNothing needs an outside justification, as needing such a thing would only be pushing the problem down to another object which would need an outside justification>>97672176Is that... you?Are you going to explain the "Scientific trap model" or is that halfassed /sci/ post supposed to be a refutation (Of a vague, nondescript enemy no less)
>>97672228Anon. You’re not an adult at math if you cannot accept that math is arguably the purest and most basest aspect of reality.
>>97672228>the scientific method is a pretty specific thing.Science is:1. Knowledge (this is where the word comes from) and information that can be applied (technology, chemistry, cooking, etc, are all applied sciences)2. The method of “fuck around and find out” (causality/repeatability as it is - with the additional nuances of the reproducibility crisis - each stroke of a paint brush won’t be exactly the same - things like the big bang already happened - etc)3. The scientific community and overall consensus
>>97672231>Nothing needs an outside justificationIt absolutely does. You’re so self centred.
>>97672211clearly a cyber attack by the Cataclysmic Cultivation fanshttps://imgchest.com/p/qe4gmez3j4j
Einstein thought of the people who saw science as merely something to apply rather than a background symphony we should be listening in on as idiotic Just letting you know that
>>97672263Do you deny the concept of a monad?
>>97672278Perhaps if you site one of the smarter scientists people will respect you more?
>>97672280What is your understanding of the Monad? In mathematical terms the idea of an indivisible is already supported.
The only reason why people hated Einstein’s argument against probabilistic autism is because he was adamantly against true free will. This is literally the only reason why people took Bohr’s side. “How DARE Einstein assume my bad choices were unavoidable!”.
>>97672293I am using the concept as a stand in for the total interactable setAnd said monad must logically be a free standing entity
Save me from this offtopic hell
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>>97672274Machine Transcendence and Fated Shot remain undefeated
>>97672326Oh yes my dear snifffffff
>>97672317Oh alrightLove you and goodnight<3<3<3<3
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>>97672237i'm sorry you feel that way.all fields of modern mathematics are axiomatic, meaning they exist and are true irrespective of observed reality. in fact, it is a bit stronger than this, because of the axiom of choice, but this is probably not something i can explain to you.as a fun experiment, you can open "Counterexamples in Analysis" to a random page and find all sorts of mathematics which never occur in reality (for example the weierstrass function)>>97672256ah, is that what you mean. well, when i wrote 'the scientific method' i meant something else. not science in general, rather a specific method by this name (it's something like your #2). it can be confusing when this happens but it's just a mix-up of notation.
>>97672343Easily Tin's best cyoa
>>97672317Sorry, I didn't know it would lead to this.
>>97671224Oh hey, I recently remade my build for this with an actual god from the cyoa.>ParentMephistopheles>LegaciesSun WukongKing ArthurAres>Powers>PhysicalEnhanced Strength - 2Enhanced Durability - 2Enhanced Speed - 2Longevity - 2Flight - 2Enhanced Combat - 2>MagicalShapeshifting - 2Kataraturgy - 2Mental Manipulation - 2Linguomancy - 2>ManipulationDark Manipulation - 2>SpecialShared Love>FormDemonic Form - 2Divine Form - 2>LesserEnhanced Beauty - 2Enhanced Charisma - 2Enhanced Agility - 1Enhanced Endurance - 1Enhanced Senses - 1Elemental Weapon - BasicEmpathy - 2Enhanced Cognition - 2Enhanced AwarenessPrehensile TailWings (Demonic)Natural Weapons>CombinationNone>ItemsThe CompassThe Wallet of Olympus>BasesFloating IslandThe PenthouseThe LodgeSpartan Hall>Life PartnerRaven, Harbinger of DeathMedusa>CompanionsRaven, Harbinger of Death>DrawbacksHellboundCult FollowingRevelations>RivalsCrowHimiko-OikamiMichail>Quests The GorgonThe War Eternal (Removes Cult Following and Revelations)Encore (Blood Magic)The First Evil (Scrolls of the Damned)King of Serpents (Serpent's Blade)The Fallen Prince (Lilith, The First Woman)>EndingConquestA traditional Dark lord build, it's fairly self-explanatory but basically just going around beating up the other evil lords so I have less competition before conquering the world.
>>97672351>all fields of modern mathematics are axiomatic, meaning they exist and are true irrespective of observed reality.Well, yes, things like prime numbers are universally founded upon. Quantification exists before life, consciousness, does.
>>97672367aww fuck what happened to my image?
>>97672375>fem dark lord A fujo drew this
>>97672343Gotta repost the build with the image now. Them's the rules.
>>97672351>all fields of modern mathematics are axiomatic, meaning they exist and are true irrespective of observed reality.How could it exist irrespective of observed reality? Wouldn't it still require a mind to conceive the axioms?
>>97672388>femAnon are blind.
>>97672343The pastebin:https://pastebin.com/WAnfZ9i9
>>97672407Women always draw Sauron and Melkor like pretty boys lol.
>>97672343I don't think any two pager has coaxed as much discussion out of the /cyoag/ as Otherwise. It is a testament to how much needing to fill in the blanks can stimulate the imagination. Most anons like the Exotic Painter but my personal best is Glint Dancer. It just seems cooler, is all.>>97672362Agreed, although his others are nice, too. I'm somewhat partial to Dungeon City- Book Wizard, but it is sadly too big to post.
Constructed maths =|= Math (1s and 0s) as it is
>>97672426>I don't think any two pager has coaxed as much discussion out of the /cyoag/ as Otherwiseyour newfag is showing sis
>>97672414well they are seducers, so they would take forms that people find appealing, and as women find these pretty boys attractive they draw them like that, maybe they would look more macho masculine for a gay audience
Reminder that matterjeet has no interest in cyoas and only comes here because she got laughed off /sci/ and /lit/
>>97672401meant for >>97672375
You know what?i dont care if she's indian.I can fix her.
>>97672464Do not redeem
Everything is math. Everything can be quantified.
>>97672403they exist in the sense that the relations between them exist even if unrecognized.at least, that's how i think about mathematics, it's a set of relationships and consequences that derive from first principles. these relationships are still there even if nobody sees them. but it's not like there aren't people who think your way, that we create mathamatics, not discover, that it "doesn't count" unless someone knows about it. I mean, it's still there, so it seems like flattery to me, but there are smart people i've met who think this way, so i don't oppose it unilaterally if that's what you're thinking. and, to be a bit more moderate, it's certainly also true that huge amounts of math were originally motivated by real physical questions. you can also ask absurd questions about realities which are not ours, and this is math, and people do ask these, but they aren't interesting (to most).actually you don't need to go as far as the weierstrass function to find something that doesn't exist in reality, you can just look at the real numbers.
>>97672512All mathematics can be summarized as the act of quantifying.
>>97672542>everything is just taking normswhat about the four color theorem, bilinear operators, topology, ...>everything is just putting things into categorieswhat about category theory? you also need morphismsyou could say "everything is quantifying and relationships" and that would not be so far off
>>97672570All of that is quantifying.
>>97672570You think relationships aren’t quantified? I think we’ve a serious misunderstanding of words.
>>97672586possibly. but only for totally retarded choices of definition for "quantifying">>97672593feel free to tell me what the word means to you.
>>97672570Mathematical relationships are a fundamental form of quantification; the structured, numerical, or logical connection between variables, or sets of data. They move beyond simple measurement to define how different quantities interact, change, or correspond to one another. >Four colour theorem The quantity is four.
>>97672608>possibly. but only for totally retarded choices of definition for "quantifying"Ah I see you’re an autistic person who can’t into semantics. Many such cases. Physicists today can’t even agree on what matter truly constitutes.
>>97672608I think you’re resisting just how far quantification goes. It’s not just quantity as in counting.
>>97672512I guess this depends on your philosophical interpretation, but for me the relationships that you model and the model itself are separate things. In the end its still a human interpretation off how reality works, even if it has high predictive value, you can never be sure if it truly describes how reality works or if its only the best interpretation we have. Since a model requires a mind to perceive it I believe its impossible to exist without an observer. Ideas existing without observers is some Platonic realm stuff which I don't really believe in.
>>97672274I also finished this build relatively recently. I think i'm ok with this, it bounces between my venom dragonlord build or this, but i'm more of a casterfag and I like int/charisma maxxing, so this is probably the one for me.>MethodsHeart-Severing Mantra (Pride)Akashic Ascension Records>BlessingsJade BeautyThird EyeIron WillDeceitful TricksterMutated DantiansCommunication ExpertMastermindRight to Rule>TreasuresAbandoned BeastScrying MirrorsEssence FurnaceExtradimensional LibrarySpliced Tree>Grand InheritancesAuxiliary MasterLost LegacyOversoul>CompanionsKairos, The GeniusHirak, The Beast>EventsCorpse KingHive QueenThe CannibalThe HordeStepford Village>DrawbacksFated Nemesis (Cassian, The Unbreakable)Deviated FormIncursionMinotaur's LairCourting Death DoomsayerMind mage rizzlord build, exerting my influence across the realms is the game and places like the library are basically a huge free knowledge bank as I can rapidly absorb any book I pick out and just put it back right after. Making sick ass artefacts like a staff of domination that enhances my powers would be cool later on as well.
There are forms of math humans aren’t responsible for. Humans didn’t invent prime numbers.
>>97672655would.
>>97671676I'd play the CYOA if they made a femStead option.
>>97672664okay, you may have a set of things that has quantity that is a prime number, but show me where the prime number itself exists in reality
>>97672608All mathematics is more or less the act of quantification because it involves analyzing the properties, structures, and relationships of objects by determining how many (numbers), how much (measurement), or to what extent (logical scope) they exist within a defined system. Whether dealing with continuous quantities, discrete numbers, or abstract relationships, mathematics functions by assigning, transforming, or constraining numerical or logical values. Quantity. This is just holistic mathematics. Sometimes the purest and most simplest thing is the summarizer of everything. Perhaps the simplification is an oversimplification to some, but it’s important to remember that even people like Einstein believed in the essential necessity of simplicity. “Things should be simple, but no simpler”. “If you can’t explain it simply enough, you don’t understand it well enough”. Etc.
>>97672679ahh... yes, the autistic waifu
>>97672692Isn't that just Anon (female)?
>>97672681>but show me where the prime number itself exists in realityYou’re being silly now. Math is reality. It’s co-existent with it. It will never not exist in relation with something existent. It goes along with existence. Period. If anything exists, anything at all, then there will be hypothetical quantification(math) to it. A nothing is still a something. A zero is still a one. Always. Non-existence isn’t really possible. True nothingness is, again, just the smallest point of existence. A point is nonetheless a point.
>>97672677Cassians Sloppy Seconds
>>97672704Math describes reality but it itself is not reality. For math to exist it requires an observer.
>>97672723>For math to exist it requires an observer.This is just silly. The planets had specific mathematically assured routes and rotations well before the development of life. As another said: the constructed maths of the intelligent aren’t the basest maths of reality. Reality doesn’t care for the intelligent. It just runs. Determinism is entirely mathematical.
>>97672692The best kind!
>>97672723>Math describes reality but it itself is not realityOh you sweet summer child~
>>97672741Blown the fuck out lmao
>>97672741>Oh you sweet summer child~
>>97672735your just stating phenomena that we use math to describe or do you just have a weird definition of math where the real functions of reality are called "math" but that would be a weird definition and a completely different thing from human made math.
>>97672773ESL?
>>97672647yeah, i agree it's philosophical. although i am not entirely without sympathy to your approach, i prefer mine for reasons i mentioned before. >it's still a human interpretationperhaps the specific form that i wrote a theorem is indeed characteristic of my mind. but it doesn't become false without me. and the underlying relationships i'm observing, these are there anyway. so although the specific formulation used to describe mathematics has a human element, the field itself doesn't. to give an example, a dozen eggs could be evenly divided into two, three, or four groups well before humans understood division. and nothing about the divisibility of twelve changed when we learned to divide. we simply came to understand what was already there. but yeah, it's linked to how reality works in a way that isn't usually reflected in textbooks. so when you come with a theorem, you'll usually look at reality first. you'll do some experiments, you'll run some numbers, do a bunch of examples. and you'll build up this... scaffolding. and the math part happens when you look at what is really going on, what is really needed? which assumptions are required. and you go into the fundamentals, and see what leads to what. and in the end when you pull off the scaffolding you have some p => q looking thing that looks like a castle in the sky. so in a way, yeah it's related to reality in that ultimately we're trying to engage with reality. but the actual discipline is the study of things which are true in their own right. pi was irrational before we knew what that meant.anyway how do you play these things? i came here from a banner ad off a different board, saw what looks to be fun, but got distracted because >set theory mentioned
>>97672790technically yes, but being half asleep and trying to explain philosophical concepts without official terminology might be a contributing factor, I just write sloppily when I rush
>>97671156Is it fine to have boons from multiple paths? I want to be a quintuple paths beyonder and advance all of the GA paths at the same time (1 via characteristics, 4 via boons).
>>97672655naisu builderu anon>Jade Beauty>Fated Nemesis (Cassian, The Unbreakable)Every time
>see cute anime boy>white hair100% softie
>>97672003Isekai Rape Monster
>>97672870Anything sci-fi
>>97672845Me when the easy to justify nemesis is easy to justify.
>>97672835>advance all of the GA paths at the same timewhere tf are you getting these boons from? the infamously corruptive chaos sea?
>>97672929I'm sure Anon will be fine. We're notoriously winners.
>>97672845They crave the cock.
>>97672870Anything tankista makes.
>>97672870>That's not how that ability works. Read the Entropist Rentry.
>>97672816>to give an example, a dozen eggs could be evenly divided into two, three, or four groups well before humans understood division. and nothing about the divisibility of twelve changed when we learned to divide. we simply came to understand what was already there.I guess this is where the route of our disagreement comes from, I don't believe that the physical reality of a dozen eggs could be evenly divided into two, three or four groups is math in itself, but the human description of this phenomena is. So math can not exist independent of the mind. But that would be a purely philosophical debate, so probably unnecessary.>anyway how do you play these things?CYOAs are as the name suggests choice games, they have a set of rules and you pick your choices according to them. Usually a point system which you use to buy options with like a character creator in a video game. Its quite similar to a table top rpg, except most of them don't have actual tabletop mechanics, just a section to create a character, explain the lore and maybe choose the setting. After you finish making the character you can imagine what that character would do in the setting, pretty much freeform roleplay.The cyoa themselves well you just read them top to bottom, sometimes anons post the whole cyoa trough images, sometimes an imagechest link. There is an archive here https://cyoa.allsync.com/s/owWor64yLTngDk3 but you can find some CYOAs by just googling and finding the imgchest links or the older imgur links if those are still alive.
>>97672835>Is it fine to have boons from multiple paths?A single boon can contain powers from multiple paths, yes. Not sure if there's a limit or the limit is how much power the recipient can handle.
>>97671420Isekai isn't a wholly eastern concept.Western men can use it too.
>>97672003Serene Serendipity if you fuck it up your life again.
>>97673002The woolla will follow you anywhere
>>97672042stop posting this gif plz I'm tired of scrolling past it
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>>97673035Softie is a pretty flower
>>97673035>never open the gifCheckmate. I am the straightest anon here.
>>97673002"isekai" as a descriptor is not a useful category, everything from alice in wonderland to john carter is isekai. Isekai refers to a specific genre of anime/japanese LN inspired fiction.
>>97673120I started reading Piranesi and it was basically an "isekai". The only thing it has in common with that slop was the main character's parasocial relationship with a dead child.
>>97672845Seriously, there are nineteen companions running the gamut of archetypes, yet 60% of Jade Beauty builds grabbed Cassian as a Nemesis. They say it's because he's predictable, but they are comparing him to, among others, a feral beast and a monomaniacal swordsaintess. It is downright suspicious.
>>976731581. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of builds took Cassian as a nemesis regardless so it's not surprising. 2. Builds who take Jade Beauty are typically aren't as invested in combat strength as ones that don't so Cassian's raw power is less threatening. Doesn't matter if you lose the stats race if you were never planning on competing in the first place.3. Even compared to those two Cassian comes off as far more straight forward. You don't need to worry about some bullshit sword esoteric technique or bloodline power, he's literally just stats. Nothing more or less.4. Cassian is kind of a dick so beating the shit out of him feels less bad.
>>97673203If Cassian was a woman you'd want to fuck her
>>97673207That's not really saying much
>>97673219It means you're blinded by the Halo Effect like everyone else
>>97673226It means I like having sex with women?
Sex with strong belligerent women to produce unruly heaven-conquering children.
>>97673240>>97671508You know what you must do.
Remember to protect your chastity against Yin Constitution dual cultivators.
>>97673158The swordwoman comes with weird xianxia expectations of being able to cut non-physical concepts. Also sword cultivators in xianxia are for some strange reason extremely competent ranged combatants. As for the beast, I would expect sneak attacks, ambushes, and them to be able to track someone who has escaped. Cassian is simpler than either of those, being an arrogant punchmaxer.>>97673207Personally I think a female Cassian would be just as unlikable and unpleasant.
>>97672091Insane phenotype. Workmanlike. Those stubby, ungainly fingers, once perfectly suited to a life spent rooting in the dirt, now fumble with a keyboard like a newborn foal finding its footing. Tok, you should go ahead and add this third option to your most recent work
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>>97673203Basically this, he's the most straightforward and easily justified rival of all of the companions. Are you a physical build? Well then you can rationalize that with your build you're stronger than him physically and he really has no counter to this, are you using esoteric bullshit? Well he has no esoteric bullshit abilities nor any defenses to it, so you can rationalize beating him that way.
>>97673357You call those stubby fingers? You haven’t seen truly stubby fingers yet.
Has anyone seen an author date a CYOA or one of its versions on the image proper? seems like that would be a good inclusion going forward. I was just reflecting on the fact that newfags will have no way to trace the influence of earlier CYOAs on later ones without being advised by an oldfag. That's a shame, because I would guess that most of us will end up cycling out of here at some point, if only in death>>97673394Feel free to show me what's what
>>97671508If it wasnt for flow legend status working to make my intelligence and senses supercharged and thereby increase my cultivation speed I really would not care for taking it and could probably go back to chimeraman, but after making a build thats literally max cultivation speed I can get and has supercharged mind control powers its kind of hard to swap back.
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>>97673288>Personally I think a female Cassian would be just as unlikable and unpleasant.What would she even look like, personality-wise?
>>97672274reposting my build>METHODS:>verdant heartwood sheavesimo the best method, has strong offensive and healing capabilities plus it comes with a nice boost to RE reserves >skin shedding scripturevery versatile body refinement plus it makes my RE more efficient>heavenly celestial scrollneeded esoteric techniques and the more stable RE would help me a lot with getting more mutations from skin-shedding and pairs well with my big and efficient RE reserves>BLESSINGS: >warhound>iron will>third eyeno idea how this pairs with heavenly scroll's own sixth sense but I'm gambling on it combining into something greater>innovative>peerless prodigythese last three perks with this many RE buffs I'm bound to make crazy things in due time>TREASURES: pocket dimension, stores of wealth, spliced tree, market ticket, hunting groundsyep, I'm going for the duplicating resources glitch, plus market ticket to trade whatever I have extra for another thing I might need>INHERITANCE>heavenly conqueror foundation>oversoulguess who is still stacking up RE buffs? it me :)>primordial essencequality over speed, having such overwhelming raw stats is going to be big when there is a stage cap>COMPANIONS:>alice the madheavenly scrolls deals with her type of problems, maybe I can actually fix her>lyra the wyrmI also happen to have a powerful bloodline, we could learn a lot from each other in how to control and deal with it>EVENTS: corpse king, place of power, treasure hunt, corrupted zone, profundity in violencenot entirely outside the scope of my build and the rewards are pretty good for these>COMPLICATIONS:>valuable>fated nemesis (cassian)yeah he is the simplest to deal with>deviant formjust speeding up what skin-shedding was bound to do>incursionthe perfect opportunity to get true dragon materials from a very young and arrogant specimen>minotaur's lairprimordial essence is going to do the heavy lifting by boosting my stats so I can sneak/run away.
>>97673614fun build>just speeding up what skin-shedding was bound to doWould it, though? The drawback seems pretty clear that it's different from regular cultivation mutations.
Post canon evil women from CYOAs.
>>97673621it's just that I was already going to give up a bit of my humanity for cool skin shedding mutations and it's not as if the deviant form has to be ugly or unattractive, besides the whole "others might have a bad first impression" with how gifted the player is I doubt that first impression will remain the same for long.so it is definitely not the same but it is also not too bad compared to other drawbacks.
>>97673614Built for rape
>>97673623Why would I?
>>97671156Tomorrow the Black Emperor abilities release. Place your best if it will be F tier or S tier, no inbetweens.After they release when do you think Tankista will release the cyoa? A week? Month? Year?
>>97673680Because we love evil women around here.
>>97673694S, week.
>>97673694i thought tankista said cyoa isnt coming until 2027
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>>97673694>Place your best if it will be F tier or S tier>Distortion authorityThis alone guarantees they'll be S tier unless they get some truly dogshit early sequence abilities
>>97672979>pretty much freeform roleplay.what's the state of the art with this? do people use it with some sort of, virtual tabletop? is there a dungeon master ai that's any good yet? i don't know how realistic this is, but it would be pretty nice to input my answers to these initial values and output a CYOA book.
>>97673379This cyoa is on a weird scenario where it feels like it's so close to being greatA lot of the items are too unrelated to your tasks, which just about nearly all seem to be "Go get rid of these fuckass monsters" and while I get the enemy limit it bothers me how it doesn't really feel natural to jump from a single random killer in a train to a fusion of Carcosa and R'lyeh to "literally stopping the apocalypse by severing mankind from the stars"There should be a LOT more missions between those. More buildup, so to say.
Predicting it now: Ultimate God and LOTM cyoa both drop in next thread
>>97673845Anon came back from 2030 and forgot what year it is.
>>97673845Delusion masterclass
>>97673845Yeah and Exalted Conquest in the thread after.
>>97673708Define "we".
WE love tech and WE love guns
>>97673890my hero tok would never
We love tok and matterchad.
>>97671156Apparently, gods of multiple paths of all paths under a GOO group can use symbols of the sefira even if they don't control it. This means that it doesn't matter if a GOO group has 2 or 5 paths under it, gods of all of them are equal.However, if the GOO "group" only has 1 path, then this doesn't apply. In conclusion, Wheel of Fortune is trash.
>>97673880Just keep thinking about the OC anon...
>>97673898is it opposite day already
>>97673758>This cyoa is on a weird scenario where it feels like it's so close to being great>A lot of the items are too unrelated to your tasks, which just about nearly all seem to be "Go get rid of these fuckass monsters" and while I get the enemy limit it bothers me how it doesn't really feel natural to jump from a single random killer in a train to a fusion of Carcosa and R'lyeh to "literally stopping the apocalypse by severing mankind from the stars">There should be a LOT more missions between those. More buildup, so to say.The Butcher is a sore point, personally, so I've thought about the situation. There's no way he's one lone wackjob - there would have to be a whole conspiracy backing him.In the US, the American railroad system is a joint project between the federal government and four private corporations . There's also a series of powerful unions involved. And keeping it all going requires massive coordination.To hide the movement of a private car (like the one the Butcher uses) indefinitely, you'd need nationwide support that includes the unions, the American govt, and both an East Coast railroad (CSX or Norfolk Southern) and a West Coast one (Union Pacific or Burlington Northern-Santa Fe). Anything less than that, and the Butcher's movements would come to light. From disgruntled employees complaining about the overtime to swap his car between trains, or safety inspectors, or the paperwork generated by the interchanges...That's a huge number of people involved in covering for the Butcher. Why they would do it is an open question, but it means a veritable army opposing you at every turn. And to make sure they don't just set up another Butcher, you'd need to yank the conspiracy into the light, and make it a huge public scandal. Which they obviously have defenses against, or else there would already be a huge public outcry.Taking out a city of Deep Ones or Splicers (some people see a Bioshock influence) might prove to be a far easier task.
>>97673880Just appetizers for Echoes PSY, Luminary, Star Runners and Magi Case redux all dropping at the same time.
>>97673912I agree that the artifacts are a weird mix. Fast healing and money are always useful, but why would (you) need to talk to spiders or make someone recite the Koran? And the lottery ticket is such a wild card. . .
>>97673912Or maybe he's just a magic train, like all the other magic things? Regardless of what you say, the Butcher is still a man-thing.
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>>97672091Hehe, stubby fingies.
>>97673397>Has anyone seen an author date a CYOA or one of its versions on the image proper? seems like that would be a good inclusion going forward. I was just reflecting on the fact that newfags will have no way to trace the influence of earlier CYOAs on later ones without being advised by an oldfag. That's a shame, because I would guess that most of us will end up cycling out of here at some point, if only in deathI haven't, ASCII Face, but the 4chan archives at moe and desuarchive offer two helpful features to that general end. First, 4chan renames uploaded files with a sequential number. The larger the number, the more recently it was uploaded.(I've had to use it on a couple of cyoas that received multiple updates in quick succession.)Second, both of the archive sites have really good image search features. So if you can upload a cyoa, or find it already uploaded, you can jump back to every thread it was posted in Which is also helpful finding author notes on a particular cyoa, or fun little things like ZBG roleplaying as Sebastian.
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>>97673397tankista does it
>>97671136Animation/Magic/Inventing seems like the most obvious combo ever and yet it’s literally impossible to take. I guess my robowaifu won’t be magical.
>>97673944>Or maybe he's just a magic train, like all the other magic things? Regardless of what you say, the Butcher is still a man-thing.A magic train would still need people to cover for it. The railroad system runs like clockwork, and the discrepancy of a rogue entity using the rail system would create noticeable holes in the logs and schedules. Plus trains are pretty noticeable, so people would have to falsify the records to hide its route among the normal ones, lest the public grow suspicious.
>>97673379Which of the targets would you go after, ASCII Face? The two that really catch my eye are the Butcher and the Utopians (underwater cities are cool!), but I could be talked into going after the Court, the Family, of the Network . . .although I don't understand them as well.(Lunacy, the Vault, and the Ushers are probably the three I'd least want to take on. I'm not sure that I understand them at all, and I can keep my mouth shut.)
>>97674102Anyone else? What targets catch your eye?
>>97671286Demigod: asfdghfjdjklWhat?
>>97674109If you can't read it, then the outer gods did not grant you their blessing.
>>97673845I hope Ultimate God releases first. The weebs will ruin /cyoag/ for an entire month when LOTM drops.
Other than QuietAnon never giving us the list of endings we could play for, the thing that bugs me most about Rise: the Endless Desert is that some of the Sacraments are more important than others. With Aeon dead, and death screwed up, Ordinance, Temperance de Mort, and Eternal Comet are simply more plot relevant (particularly if you choose the mystery box).It's an issue for me as, out of the seven options, Starlight Chassis, Clockwork Dais, and Temperance de Mort are the three that catch my eye. So two of my three favorite Sacraments can't finish the cyoa until more reincarnated people show up.
>>97674183Does it strike anyone else odd that three of the six mentors are (arguably) evil? The world would probably be better off without Bones, Floop, and Deeja (at least as they're presented here).Of the mentors, Laheera seems like she'd be the easiest to reach. The narrator even points out that the train to her realm is free.Bones is probably the second easiest, if he's really that famous with pirates. And Wilhelmina is probably the third, as she's a recognized hero to several cultures.Floop, Deeja, and Minevra, though? Joining an expedition by the Arachi, the Solar Elves, and the Dinar King (respectively) is probably (your) best bet to reach them alive. People to watch (your) back, and money to afford the supplies (you) will need. . .And I'm gonna guess that Laheera was Dusk Mirror, and the deposed king is her Other. The imagery both use seems to support that, although I could make a case for Starlight Chassis, too.
>>97674218The Black Flame Shield might be an Elden Ring reference. Anyone see other references in the equipment?If you're trying to get to Floop, (you) will probably need both a ranged weapon and a melee weapon. And if (you) picked Wilhelmina, a bow is probably a good idea. :)Conversely, the Temperance de Mort probably doesn't need another sword.
>>97674234If you're trying to get to Minevra, I like Frostlorn (a lot). Ice, snow, and avalanches are some of the biggest threats in the mountains, and Frostlorn pretty much nerfs them all.And I really like the healing effect of Skinchanger, although its dubious origin worries me.
>>97671156>The Fürth Firefish is a mutated fish resulting from the corruption leaking from Fourth Epoch Trier. Its breed stabilised 769 years ago and mainly resides in the Danro section of the underground Madar River. Its meat and blood can be concocted into a 'warm cocktail' with various sunflowers. After drinking it, one can resist the effects of the cold to a certain extent for half an hour.>A Fürth Firefish that has lived for over a decade is an ingredient rich in spirituality. Using its meat, blood from a Mid-Sequence Beyonder of the Hunter pathway, ice, and lemon juice, one can cook Ice Lemon Fish fillets. After anyone eats them for the first time, they permanently enjoy reduced damage from flames. Eating them later will enhance the effect, but it only lasts for half an hour.Wtf you could go on a monster hunting gourmet tour in lotm
>>97674250Many of the companions seem . . ."disruptive", to the cyoa, rather than complimentary. And despite what QuietAnon said, many don't seem to have obvious tie-ins to the other sections.(Although I am curious if you could Mindbreaker to recover Listeria and Tyr's memories.)Finally, putting Garret, Rina, and Sedana in a party together seem like a recipe for disaster. Two teenage girls, and a guy that makes even the narrator a touch horny?
>>97671156Thoughts on good path combos of main + boons? Boons don't need acting, rituals, and potions, so they're perfect for paths that have annoying requirements for advancement.I've thought of a few:Error main + Fool boons: Avatars negate the distance limit of puppets, and Fool has abilities that further conceal and give flexibility to avatars.Error main + Door boons: After stealing an ability, you can keep using it to record it. Your avatars can go anywhere, vastly widening your recording options.Sun main + Hanged Man boons: Sun removes Hanged Man's weakness to purification and defends against the corruption from listening.Black Emperor main + Justiciar boons: Rules for thee, but not for me.
>>97673403Thistlewait's CYOAs are some of my favorites.
>>97673379>>97674102All of the threats always exist and choosing them only attracts their attention and ire. Given that they seem to be ordered in descending levels of initiative and ascending levels of danger. From the Ushers and down, the Field seems to be incapable of dealing with them.If you want to save the world, picking the Ushers, Lunacy, and Vault would probably give the world a fighting chance.You aren't actually fighting the horrors, only researching them. Though if the Ushers are understood and potentially mitigated, there may be actual progress made towards fixing anything.
>>97674270Eternal Comet + Deeja/Floop + Skinchanger + Yellow Samurai/Summoning of Urza seems like a great way to get (your) soul repossesed and (your) body mutated into an eldritch god.The Oracle of Nath sounds like it'd be a pretty quest to do, but I'm not sure anyone other than Wilhelmina's students (or Clockwork Dais)have a shot at completing it in time.The Scrolls of Thu'um seem custom built for one of Bones's students (pirate on pirate action!), although Deeja's relatively close, too.I'm not sure that I know the best picks for the Yellow Samurai. If he really is tied in to the "King in Yellow" play, then there's some odd synergies with Starlight Chassis, Minevra's existence, and what Andrea did to achieve power (maybe Temperance de Mort, too). I can't say whether they go in a beneficial (or evil) direction, though.Locating the Temple of Al-Asir is one thing, but keeping it is another. And I worry about how Professor Al-Hadid can advertise that he's got a map to it, and deal with all the unwanted attention it must draw.The Summoning of Urza seems to lock (you) into a very specific build.Other than Yellow Samurai and (possibly) the Temple of Al-Asir, all of the quests seem time sensitive. And I'm not sure they're practical for anyone other than the time travellers of the Clockwork Dais.
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