Sci-fi is objectively superior to fantasy due to the simple fact that entire fantasy settings can exist within sci-fi settings.
How can something that's the same as fantasy be better than it?
>>98146491Sci-fi can exist within fantasy too See: Babylon 5
>>98146491Traditional games?
>>98146962This board is just the /lit/ landfill
It really depends on what kind of story you're trying to tell.
>>98146491>>98146896Sci-fi and fantasy both exist as subcategories of a larger category of speculative fiction. What makes sci-fi better than fantasy is not that it encompasses a larger area than fantasy (though it does), it is the conventions and history of each genre. Science fiction is forward thinking. It's speculative, more willing to engage with the philosophical questions and logical consequences of its premises. The first writers of science fiction explored ideas and concept which were expounded on and pushed further and further by their successors. The genre has grown larger as time goes on, not smaller. Cyberpunk is radically different from 1984, is radically different from 2001, is radically different from Lem's works, so on and so forth. Again, science fiction is in its subject and nature, forward thinking.Fantasy is fundamentally conservative. It is a continuation of the tradition of myths, folklore, and romanticization of the past. The first modern fantasy writers copied actual historical legends and myths. The writers that came after Tolkien, Howard, Moorcock, etc. copied them. And those writers were copied by their successors. The writers today? We're on like 5 or 6 levels of the snake eating its own tail. For any given piece of fantasy fiction, there's a 50/50 chance that the writer only consumes fantasy. It's a shame because there is nothing inherently different about the kind of stories that can be told in fantasy vs. in science fiction, but the culture and conventions around fantasy are more likely to generate inbred pieces of shit.
>>98146491So? Fantasy settings like DnD, Pathfinder, Warcraft and like every second Final Fantasy variant has Sci-Fi that can exist within the fantasy settings.
>>98147018You don't read shit lmao
>>98146992This board should be just for games generals. As God intended.
>>98147048Generals killed 4chan
>>98147028seethe retard
>>98147018>Cyberpunk is radically different from 1984, is radically different from 2001, is radically different from Lem's worksYou're saying that Salammbô, Conan and Markus Heitz's novels about Dwarfs and Orcs are more or less the same.You're implying that Darkover and The Sword of Shannara are the same shit... and that The Wizard Knight is next to identical to Zero no Tsukaima.In Urban Fantasy, apparently The Golem is no different from Ayashi no Ceres, and there's no way to find a meaningful difference between Reverend Insanity and Saiunkoku Monogatari.
>>98147200>SO YOU'RE SAYING X???That's strange, I don't see X anywhere in my post. Did you pull it out of your unwashed asshole?
>>98147018>nobody copies in sci-fiRead a book before larping like this
>>98147211>>98147207
>>98147200Yes. That is all unironically true.
>>98147200based Markus Heitz enjoyer
>>98146896>based there-is-no-such-thing-as-sci-fi poster
>>98147018>The writers today? We're on like 5 or 6 levels of the snake eating its own tail.You probably should consider that it's publishers who are actively looking for (thing) that is similar to (thing that made us cash money recently), and authors who actually work for a living naturally follow the same trend. They aren't drinking deeply either, at best we get to two levels of irony, as in from Mormon Vampire Jesus Fanfic to BDSM Fanfic of Vampire Jesus Fanfic, as we did with Twilight -> 50 Shades or from LotR to US Pulp Fiction LotR - > Sword of Shannara, or from Star Wars to Star Wars, but the Elves are assholes and my family is there (Star Wars -> Eragon).
>>98147250Reminder that Wolfgang Holbein ripped off Warcraft for a YA novel first.
>>98147215It's implied. Maybe double check what chatgpt is sending you before posting.
>>98147288literally who and how is this relevant or related
I predict this rancid bait will catch 200+ replies.
>>98147327He's the author Markus Heitz grew up reading.
>>98147018Fantasy is the faculty or activity of imagining things, especially things that are impossible or improbable.A world containing even a single impossible aspect puts it in the realm of fantasy. Having more and more improbable aspects pushes it further from plausibility."Sci-fi" doesn't encompass a larger area than the entirety of impossibilities and improbabilities, because that's what fantasy covers.Fantasy can, and sometimes does, speculate and contain philosophy, and address the logic of its own internal aspects.Fantasy isn't restricted to the past, because there are plenty of futuristic concepts that are, as we know them, impossible or grossly improbable. A lot of works people call "sci-fi" are actually Fantasy, because they take no effort in avoiding the inclusion of impossible concepts (often for the sake of "rule of cool"); which is odd, considering how sci-fi fans put on airs about intellectual and cultural superiority they don't actually possess.What has been done with it doesn't change what fantasy is. What dick the mouthbreathing /lit/fags want to deepthroat doesn't change what fantasy is."Sci-fi" is an unnecessary pigeonhole whose words mean nothing to represent the actual contents of a work.
>>98147018Damn this really caused a lot of asshurt
>>98147048I think God intended for you to spill on your mother's stomach.
>>98148120Oh shit there he is in the wild. Good thing we don't use words to describe in contextual detail and only communicate in rational maximized totally necessary terms with zero need to clarify or elaborate all the time.
>>98148249>a bunch of retards used these words wrong so that means my fantasy ships and lasers are culturally and intellectually superior to their fantasy dragons and fireballsSevere delusion.Keep living as a sheep, then.
>>98148885No one said that
>>98148885I get some scifi nerds bullied you when you were a kid but you've got to let go man. No one cares.
>>98147079No. Reddit tourists like you and op killed 4chan.
