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Morathi, my beloved...
>>98720415>>Thread Question:>Is your army a gunline?no>Well why not?guns are boring to play and play against
>>98720420>>98720415>>Threads policy:>Bot-made and bot-edited images are banned from the thread and to be reported as the off-topic trolling spam they are.
Question to the grogs: do you remember 6th editions power levels, tier list or whatever?So in 6th I have two army books and they seem close in power (aside from the Anvil) and both have their own interesting things so I'm thinking I could just use the first army book against weaker armies and the second book against stronger armies to make the games more even.
>>98720435Are you announcing a report?>>>Thread PolicyYour* Policy, not the General's, and which is subjective in its assertion and entirely uninforcible.
If Zeus were in Warhammer Fantasy, what would be the first thing he'd have sex with?
>>98720469>subjective in its assertionNta but numerous of us have 'subjectively' found your recolours shit. If we wanted recoloured art we'd ask our own AIs to do it. Your posts are just AI-written-fanfic-tier spam. >>98720415Thank you for the thread policy.
>>98720504Depends, what's the first thing he encounters?
>>98720415>Is your army a gunline?No.>Well why not?We have essentially zero ranged units, wife took them to North Africa after the divorce in the 90s.>Thread PolicyBased.
>>98720415My army is a mix of infantry blocks, msu, cavalry, monsters and artilery. I love the variation Orcs and Gobbos bring.
He was disarmed during spraying.
>figured it’d be AoS this week cause 40k and the TOW got Halloween appropriate models>realize it’s late enough in the month that anything that shown on Sunday will come out in OctoberI’m betting Tomb Kings really will be next.
>>98720612learn2pin
>>98720529The one and only female beastman.
>>98720612FYI, at least before basing, if you run it under hot water, the glue tends to bond quicker
>>98720420how do you make these?
>>98720702It doesn't have to be hot water; superglue relies on moisture to set, so even spit will do.It's also why it dries almost immediately upon skin contact.
>>98720620Considering the TOW page changed its background image to Tomb Kings and the chariot sprue/box is out in the wild, I think that's very likely at this point.
>>98720621Metal is a pain to drill, let alone deep enough for a pin.>>98720702Glued a week beforehand but not with the activator. Not really sure why a light tap did that.
>>98720504closest thing we have to zeus shagging people and creating weird stuff is manann fucking a norscan and making an edgy little mermaid
>>98720752yeah but there's a reason why people still pin metal models despite the pain to drill..
>>98720752I pinned that very model myself. It's not hard.
>>98720415>Is your army a gunline?The two fanfiction races I am making are kind of. One is nearsighted but has blunderbuss lines, the other has dudes that sling fireballs en masse.
>>98720878Ulric also fucked a lot of people there; that's why the Children of Ulric are just considered "pretty rare" instead of nonexistent
How would you cost a unit like this: >"longbeard rangers">come with a longbeard statline>come with a hand weapon and heavy armor, can buy great weapons, shields and throwing axes>come with ranger special rules plus gromril weapons and longbeard panic resistanceWould 16PPM be fair?
Ready to launch.
Oh shit, watch out!
>>98721723What's he doomdivin' at
>>98721123Oh man, I just remembered how in the first GnF novel, Gotrek slaughters a whole ass pack of Children of Ulric that were just trying to rescue their little sister because he just saw monsters and did his thing.
>>98721521>>98721723Kino, love how vibrant it looks.
What would the 4 heroes each race would have in a Warcraft 3 style Warhammer mod?What would be good neutral tavern heroes for hire? I guess an Ogre would fit well.
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>>98721737That's right! Gotrek became a bloodthirsty murderer in that moment, and was probably going to kill the woman too.
>>98721785The story ends right there and then without explaining what happened to her, so I'm assuming that yes, Gotrek killed her and Felix just decided there was no point in trying to explain they weren't threatening them but the kidnappers.
>>98721799The next story in the omnibus talks more about the ending.
>>98721808Does it? I genuinely don't remember at all. All I remember is that the book jumps right next to the next chapter, which I think is either the chaos warrior woman looking for revenge one or the kidnapped children one.
>>98721828Ulric's Children is the last story of Trollslayer; the first story of Skavenslayer - Skaven's Claw - in its Foreword, Felix implies that Gotrek killed her.
>>98721855Ah, well I completely filtered that out of my mind. RIP.
>>98721855Well, I guess that is a problem for Children of Ulric, where people just think they're evil Chaos mutants like SkinWolves
>>98721828All good, dude.Thanks, >>98721855
>>98721377>dwarf warrior 8pts : ranger 11pts = longbeard warrior 12pts : longbeard ranger Xpts>X=16,5ptsso, yes, 16pts per model is fine, before additional stuff, great weapons come 2pts, shield 1pt, command members 6ptswith all the rules of both unitsrare choice, 0-1 can be taken as special if the general is a king
>>98721767Im going to post my idea for Lizardmen wanna-be Warcraft II heroes:>Saurian Warlord: Strength hero, melee tank with some AoE passive buff and/or buffs for troops>Slann: Mind Hero, pure AoE spell caster>Chameleon Skink Veteran: Agility Hero, ranged fighter with invisibility>Kroxigor Ancient: Strength hero, pure melee brawl with damaging abilities>What would be good neutral tavern heroes for hire? I guess an Ogre would fit well.Correct. Exiled Bretonnian noble, or Mercenary Tilean, or Myrmidia Priest would work too.
>>98721767>What would be good neutral tavern heroes for hire?ogre maneater-pitfighterdwarf slayer-pitfightershe-norscan marauder-pitfighterdark-elf corsair-pitfighter
>>98721754Thanks!
>>98722038I was actually considering 15PPM since they don't get crossbows. They'd be a rare option and a 0-1 core in the army of infamy list I'm brainstorming - I want to encourage some homebrewing at my club but need to polish it up before I show it off to make a good first impression. It represent a ranger encampments, clans that lost their holds and now travel the roads or just a throng moving fast to aid an ally.>name: overground defense >characters: all characters plus bugman, no anvil>core: miners, quarrelers, 0-1 rangers and 0-1 longbeard rangers per thousand points>special: warriors, thunderers, rangers, 0-1 slayers per thousand points, >rare: gyrocopters, longbeards, longbeard rangers, carts>new hero: Josef Bugman - I think he can be transplanted from the 6.5 book mostly intact >new character if we can't bring back bugman: thane with ranger equipment, options and special rules >special rule idea #1: spring the trap - once per game at the start of your movement phase you can declare this special rule, if you do so in the first turn your vanguard units add +X inches to their vanguard move, if it's in later turn they can add +X to their charge and march moves (I'm thinking 3" added after all other modifiers or a +1 to base movement unless it could be abused too much)>special rule idea #2: all your infantry units can buy one of the following special rules combination if they don't already have it: scout and move through cover OR vanguard and ambush (I think +2 points per model since it's dwarfs?)>special rule idea #3: all your infantry units can be switched to open order before the gameObviously it's not meant for any serious tournament play, but I'd like it to be somewhat balanced.
>>98721767I think Warhammer Online was pretty spot on with the classes since they covered most archetypes, at most you'd have to rename a few. For example the Empire had:>knight of the blazing sun, melee tank or dps, could be renamed to captain>bright wizard, ranged dps, could be renamed to just wizard so you could use any element>priest, melee dps and support, you'd probably pick the cult>witch hunter, melee and ranged hybrid dps, you could probably swap him out for a purely ranged dps engineer
>>98721767>What would be good neutral tavern heroes for hire? I guess an Ogre would fit well.Dogs of War are right there.
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>>98722222>couldn't even be bothered to find actual wfb modelsCome on, anon.
>>98722251I would have used avatar of war, but I remember a helmeted dwarf gladiator and can't find it
>The north is better than the south!!!!>Death to the false god!
>>98722134>rangers and longbeard rangers just as common>rangers not compulsory in a rangers list>miners as core and not limited in a rangers listother than these I'd say it's about rightlongbeard rangers are a good example of a homebrew unit because it's just translating already existing statlines and costs across similar unitsheavily restricting units in an uncomfortable way and shifting around the rarity of the others in exchange of rules that hopefully change how the army normally plays is also a good lesson to encourage homebrews, especially if it's something that works at lower point levels for small armies to actually get made as hobby projects, or not have to contend with the usual metaI'm just not too sure this will achieve the intended result of having a dwarf army suddenly start moving and positioning differently, making it possible for the units to move a bit faster is not the same as making the units want to move faster and spread out on the flanks, especially in an army that would ideally still have lots of shooting I think you should change the spring the trap rule to something that rewards flanking a unit, even with ranged weapons, say for example it was possible for ranged units to shoot an enemy unit even if that enemy unit was charged by one of your units in the same turn, as long as the charge and the ranged attacks happen on different sides of the enemy unit, especially if those ranged kills contributed to combat resolution, suddenly it would be a way more tempting thing to spread your units and engage the enemy in daring charges and crossfires, instead of turtling up somewhere and hoping your stacks of great weapons are enough to kill the enemy after you've shot at him with crossbows while he marches to meet youyou can add the simpler bonus to movement to rule#3 and still have the rules seem thematic and smooth
>>98722374Is this Warhammer art?
>>98722544>in a ranger listIt can be seen as that but it's a more of a "quick, who do we have on hand around here? Some rangers, prospectors and a gyrocopter flying over? Guess it will have to do" list. I didn't want to make rangers unlimited in core since they're way better than quarrelers for a small point increase so people could consider that power gaming by filling up on them and just sitting in the back peppering the enemy like a regular gunline, plus too many skirmishers might just be too unfun to play against. No such problem with with Miners tho.>I'm just not too sure this will achieve the intended result of having a dwarf army suddenly start moving and positioning differently(...)I'd love it to be an army that's all around the table, scouting, vanguarding and coming off table edges. >I think you should change the spring the trap rule to something that rewards flanking a unit,Not a bad idea but I don't want it to be a flat fighting bonus - royal clans already have that, x force has something different with moving gunline, and I'd like to mobility be the theme of this one, but attacking from two sides is too hard to pull off most of the time and is already rewarding.> if that enemy unit was charged by one of your units in the same turn, as long as the charge and the ranged attacks happen on different sides of the enemy unit,Charges come before shooting so they can't happen on the same turn, usually. If you could shoot then charge then this could be useful.>you can add the simpler bonus to movement to rule#3 and still have the rules seem thematic and smoothI want to limit flat +1s on the list, the two other AoI (I'm ignoring slayers for how halfbaked that one is) have bonuses, but most are in exchange for something (extra rune budget extra points spent on runes and not units, moving warmachines have lower T, etc).
>>98722586Yes.
>>98722667That one is more obviously Chaos Marauders vs Middenheim state troops, the first one is more generic, and if not for the file name, I wouldn't have guessed it was meant to be Nordland Wolf-kin
>>98722667Reminds me of the WFRP 3E and that era of fanart for some reason.
>>987226903e used a lot of Warcry and invasion artwork since FFG controlled those, so that does make sense
Since we have some dwarf players here: anybody else thinks dwarfs should get some sort of minor runes or some heirlooms like in 8th for Battle March? Minor runes could be cheaper versions of the regular ones but with some limitation like only being able to put two runes on an item if you use minor ones. Because you paying 25 points for an additional attack rune while the opponent can get a 25 points sword that has an extra attack, -1 AP and wound rerolls on flank and rear attacks seems unfair.
>>98720438Isn't the main difference dwarf handguns?I only use the first book when I want to use gyrocopters, the rules are more fun
>>98722873Off the top of my head so correct me if I mix something up, first book:>anvil is a spellcaster that can't suffer perils, miscasts just end the magic phase>characters can pick any armor, engineer lets you guess the range twice on warmachines >special characters are thorek and alrik>rangers and miners are 0-1 core units>multiple army variants>organ guns have 18" range, gyrocopter crashes at 0 wounds, flame cannon gets more unstable as it loses wounds>runic banner that let's you reroll ones in combat and shooting>longbeards are immune to panic, hammerers get stubborn if they're guarding the general>and yes, handguns can move and shoot and get +1 to hit at short rangeSecond book:>mostly minor book-wide point cuts that can add up to buy a few more upgrades>anvil is now a warmachine that can't miscast or be dispelled but only uses one power per turn and can blow up on a bad roll>all characters wear gromril armor for free, engineer is now master engineer and is more about rerolls>special characters are bugman and thorek, alrik's shield bearers are now a generic dwarf lord upgrade>rangers are now an upgrade for longbears warriros and quarrelers, miners are in special and can buy and upgrade that lets them reroll reinforcement rolls, longbeards can be taken in core for every warrior unit>no army variants>organ guns are 24", gyrocopters don't crash, flame cannon is more stable>all special warmachines can now buy an engineer for cheap, who improves their BS, gives rerolls, acts as an additional crewman and a good champ that can kill cheap fliers <---- this is the biggest thing about this book to me and would really buff ToW dwarfs if it came back IMO>many new fun runes, the reroll 1s banner rune got cut>longbeards now have a panic reroll aura, hammerers are always stubborn and immune to fear/terror if they're with the dwarf lord>handguns are move or shoot but get +1 to hit at all ranges
>>98722953One more thing I remembered: in the first book it was errata'd that when shooting at the anvil you randomize hits between and the crew (instead of just the crew like it was originally and how it is in the second book) and then discard any hits against the anvil, while in the second book it was faq'd that the master engineer can entrench the anvil so you can give it hard cover and obstacle.
>>98722953>>98722970Oh and in the second book the warmachine crew gained stubborn as long as the machine was alive so if you charged them with some weak skirmishers not only could the engineer beat them up, so as long as they survived the charge they had a high chance of holding you up for a turn or two instead of giving you an easy sweep - at least from my experience.
>Be me>Developing story concept for WHFRP>Wine magnate keeps canopic jar with Liche Priest heart in his cellar>The necromantic energies make the wine taste amazing>Magnate doesn't know the jar has a heart in it, he just bought it because he liked the aesthetic>Wine magnate hires PCs to trash his house for insurance fraud, he needs to leave town fast because he got a little too silly with his murdering hobby>PCs stumble on the jar while trashing the cellar, one of them inevitably smashes or opens it>Heart tumbles out, necromantic energies released>Literal skeletons in magnate's closet come tumbling out to engage PCs>They are now cursed, have to find a way to lift the curse, and the magnate dies after falling off a balcony ledgeI'm thinking they'll be harried by two oppositional factions; a necromancer in service to a Lahmian baddy and a Nurgle cult that wants to corrupt the heart into the fleshy acorn of a corpse tree.
Why does it seem like Mordheim is the only Warhammer community that actually gives a shit?
Making a 650pt BM army list for WoC.Do I spend points on a melee champion or an exalted sorcerer?Previous advice was if taking a sorc, take Ruby Rinf of Ruin but I don't want my list to be unfun. Is RRoR too much in a 650pt list? Would I be better off taking the champ instead?Rest of list is 2 x 5 marauder horsemen, 1 x 6 chaos warhounds, 2 x skinwolves and 11 chaos warriors for the general to hang with, if this helps.
I need this miniature so bad, bros.
>>98723727It’s the only high elf kit that’s good. Such a shame. But that’s just because of the mount, I don’t give a damn about pinheads.
>>98723741Pinheads are cool.
I bring tales of sieges! Our club had our first summer siege event last Saturday. The free town of Pfeildorf was beset by marauders during its Oktoberfest, so we had a pint and manned the walls!
>>98723810We played 3 games through the day, with 24 people in attendance. 2 good guys would defend a gate while 2 bad guys would attack, with each pairing shuffled per round. The first scenario was a double match where the defenders would sally forth to destroy enemy siege weapons under construction- any wounds dealt to siege weapons in this scenario would carry over to the final assault or possibly even destroy a siege engine!
>>98723820I had my brother draw up some banners with a Bavarian style pattern to hang from the walls. I rigged up a magnet system to hold them on without damaging the donated fortresses.My dwarves are featured fighting side by side with an elf
>>98723828At our table we were stalled by MANY goblins. Eventually I managed to crash a gyro into a siege tower and cause a wound on it.
>>98723835On the other side, warriors with forge fire great weapons cut down the trolls and burned the covered ram to ashes.
>>98723727So fucking kino.. high elf supremacy
>>98723839The second scenario was a battle match scenario and each pairing would choose one of 2 battles to fight: a blockade run with a supply wagon, or an undermine mission. I chose the underline mission and three some slayers down there to get the job done.They went up against the same troll horde player from scenario 1.
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>>98723848Turns out slayers are really good at killing trolls and goblins.They sliced and diced everything they came in contact with! Unfortunately, I took to long killing goblins and the scenario ended in a draw. At that table, it means a wall will collapse on a random turn in the final assault.
>>98723855The final assault was a double match again, 3000 points of attackers vs 2000 of defenders and all the attrition dealt so far.I was paired with another dwarf player, and he went short where I was fighty, so he manned(dwarfed?) the walls while I sallied out with my king and hammerers
>>98723861The attackers at this table were ogres and warriors of chaos, and while some damage had been dealt, they had a full complement of siege engines AND had collapsed a wall!
>>98723866I plugged the gap with longbeards as beast as I could. A fat mob of ogre characters and bruisers charge headlong into the breach, but we end up drawing 3 combats in a row!
>>98723877The hammerers end up getting triple charged and dying to a dwarf, leaving the stubborn king to do the job himself.
A few challenges helped to slow down the hordes at the gate and the king held the gate for the rest of the game against ogres, chaos warriors, and the chaos lord!
A bunch of mauraders made it into an unguarded tower with their grappling hooks, so my partner was preoccupied fending them off. At the end of the day though, they were driven away and the ogres were cut down by cannon fire, so we successfully defended our gate!
Good lord all my pictures are sideways… I’m sorry about that. I was probably having too much fun.At the end of the day we had 2 wins for the defenders, 2 for the attackers, and one draw. Another gate ended up not being used after the troll player dropped. Here’s an action shot from another gate being smashed in by a hydra.
>>98721767They'd be pretty simply whatever the 4 most prominent characters of the faction are.The only complication is when a faction only has 3 character types, like Bretonnia. Then you have to do funny stuff with mounts to distinguish them>Duke on foot>Fay Enchantress>Baron on hippogriff>Paladin on warhorse
>>98723810>>98723828>>98723828Great looking game, turbo based aside from the gayrocopters!!! Just one question though, why do the defenders leave the castle to fight outside the walls?
>>98720469>>98720525I like it, it only adds colour, it doesn't change the art, it is like colourizing old photgraphs.
>>98724128The taint is upon you. Woe.
>asavar kul gets a model>giant raoh-esque guy on an equally giant horse on a chariot basewould it be kino or not
>>98723810What rules did you use for the siege?
>>98724159>giant centerpiece AoS style model on a clipboard size basePure retardation (not the good kind)
>>98724240I mean, they basically did that for that one slaanesh guy in aos. Also is it just me or are the centerpieces tow have gotten kinda bigger than what aos has gotten in recent years?
>>98723010>PCs stumble on the jar while trashing the cellar, one of them inevitably smashes or opens itYou'd be surpsied how the PCs can react. They might just ignore it.Have the Magnate's office be in the cellar, hence why there would be some decorative item(s) lying about, a collections of jars, vases and other foreign and/or ancient baubles.Also, your Nurgle cult might fall flat since the PCs might not even take the heart and escape with it, leaving it to be discovered/picked up by someone else. If they don't just leave it there, they might burn it and the house along.Where is that house located? A town, a city, a country house surrounded by vineyards? Who was he murdering, random passer-bys, people in town? Maybe once a year during some local festival of sorts?Keeping bodies in the cellar is nice, perhaps in a secret room, where the heart awoken them, come next year when he come to dispose of the body..the others are moving about; focing him to leave town and hire the PCs to make it seems as he's been attacked in his home and possibly taken away.Witch Hunters of some Morrite Priests can also go after them.
>>98723244Can we get more details on the list? Any FCs, magic items, other wargear?Frankly, got with melee champ, fits more the theme.
>>98723810>>98723861>>98723866>>98723877>>98723882>>98723889>>98723895>>98723903Looks like it was an excellent event! Even if my neck disagree the pictures are great! Your King now needs a fancy name, Like Gatekeeper.
>>98723010>>98724255>You'd be surpsied how the PCs can react. They might just ignore it.You can just narrate one of the PCs accidentally bumping into it while they look around the place. I recommend picking the one with the lowest agility if you don't have a PC in mind who's obviously suitable for that (the Pippin). It's the plot hook, no need to leave it up to chance.
>>98722222Love that Runeson model.
>>98720592>Build 500 points of Nomadic Waagh! for BM>Build 500 points of Night Goblins for BM>Continue in same manner for Black Orcs and Trolls>slam together to create 2k listItz big thinkin'
>>98724159Isn't he meant to ride a chariot? he doesn't have the steed of the apocalypse, does he?
>>98724472gathering the six treasures of chaos is something only archaon didalso because many of the treasures were made or discovered by the various everchosen in the first place
>>98724095>Just one question though, why do the defenders leave the castle to fight outside the walls?You never heard of a sally to counterattack the attackers to break the siege?
>>98723244SHEEEEEEEEEEIIIIT
>>98723151Mordheim is uniquely cool and something that cant be replicated, so people have the passion to invest more time.Its also a skirmish game where terrain is very important which shifts energy away from minis and onto terrain, so the spectacle of the table itself is inherently much greater.Also, the rules dont change, so people can plan their detailed layouts around its scenarios without fear that it will be redundant next week/month.
>>98724670The only thing that makes mordheim special in the market of skirmish games is the games workshop branding.
>>98723151Because only dedicated people play a dead and unsupported setting.
>>98723727I remember when it first came out, everybody complaining about it. Among the many complaints, I distinctly remember people being upset that it came in the starter set because it lowered the usefulness of buying multiple Island of Blood boxes to build an HE army.I also remember people REALLY being upset that it was too small to match the imperial griffin once the plastic kit came out, so they couldn't use it for conversions.
>>98724909Those are somewhat valid complaints, but also definitely weren't the opinion of the majority or enough to tip the overall opinion of people about the mini into negativity.
>>98724186We used an adaptation from the 7e rules published in white dwarf 323. The adaptation was written by a sister club in San Francisco. Personally I thought the siege rules were really clunky, but we still managed to have a great time!
>>98720415>Threads policy:>Bot-made and bot-edited images are banned from the thread and to be reported as the off-topic trolling spam they are.Bullshit.
>>98724255>>98724316Thank you for the advice! I'm still trying to work out the kinks of the premise - it's always important to start a campaign strong - but finding some way to convince the PCs to actually... Y'know, engage with the plot device... Is important. It's pinging my GM senses as poor theater, but then I think about, say, the false inheritance in Enemy Within and how the narrative assumes the PCs engage with it. WHFRP is full of assumed behaviors from the PCs.That said, I think I could approach this from a more thematic angle. WHFRP plots are, most often, PCs getting swept up in a plot and, eventually, taking the reins of that plot. Thousand Thrones has them start as simple pilgrims with an in with Karl. Enemy Within has them be wandering vagrants. Most of Rough Days and Hard Nights presents how days or nights will proceed even without PC input. That might be an important way to look at this; SOMETHING should happen if the PCs ignore the canopic jar. Question is, what?The manor is located in the tilled hills of Eilhart, where the famed "Weinfest" takes place. There are angles to play this; the magnate got seduced by the whispered dreams of the Liche Priest, and compulsively kills to preserve the bodies. A lot of taxidermized animals in his rumpus room could foreshadow this. He could have also (correctly) surmised that spirits "enhance" the flavor of wine, and buries riff-raff in the soil to feed their "experience" to the grapes.>Witch Hunters of some Morrite Priests can also go after them.Excellent. A zealous Witch Hunter convinced of the PC's guilt in necromancy is a solid way to keep the PCs scared.
>>98724957>The manor is located in the tilled hills of Eilhart, where the famed "Weinfest" takes place. There are angles to play this; the magnate got seduced by the whispered dreams of the Liche Priest, and compulsively kills to preserve the bodies. A lot of taxidermized animals in his rumpus room could foreshadow this. He could have also (correctly) surmised that spirits "enhance" the flavor of wine, and buries riff-raff in the soil to feed their "experience" to the grapes.Wait, hold on. He sent the PCs there to die. The insurance fraud was a cover to kill him. He's got guys in the estate to kill the PCs. What kind of people sign on to commit insurance fraud with a stranger? The sort of wretches that would not be missed. Maybe he's part of the Nurgle fertility cult found in "Hell comes to Hallt" which I was planning to include as the follow-up adventure as the PCs make their way to Altdorf, as they'll be told that's where the greatest collection of foreign antiquities can be found. Hell yeah.
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endless threads screeching about dwarfs painted up with dark skin to one side, by including Gazul in the main setting, GW just inadvertently canonised those terrible WFRP supplements written by an American with all the dwarf wife sharing and ancestor god incestFor the uninitiated:>dwarf brothers share wives, supposedly because there are less fem dwarfs than males>Grungni, Grimnir and Valaya are all siblings>Grimnir has two kids with Valaya, then Grungni does>Grombrindal is also Grungni's kid, goes on to fuck Valaya, his stepmum/aunt>Gazul does not fuck Valaya, but in a later WFRP supplement has an autistic ancestor god son who grows up to be the Horned RatDid GW know about this when they signed off on it, or do they genuinely give no fucks about anything that isn't 40k these days?>>98720415>TQI play dwarfs, of course I run a fucking gunline
>>98724741Nah, it's all about aesthetics.The core rules aren't at all special, warband composition can be exploited in ways that the game can become miserable to other players, the campaign system is good, but it's essentially a retooled Necromunda '95. Hell, it even shares a lot in common with Warhammer Skirmish, which isn't nearly as universally beloved, despite also being an alright game and actually supporting most fantasy armies.Mordheim's success has everything to do with its vibes. The fluff and setting are interesting and offer fresh ideas beyond what your typical Skirmish game at the time would. The artwork is evocative and punchy, makes you want to learn more about the city and its dwellers. It's a game about downtrodden lowlifes, religious fanatics and freaks trying to murder each other over magic crack in a fantasy post-apocalyptic city. It's edgy, stupid and cool. The hobby select of the game is also very appealing; on one hand, you've got a small amount of models, each of them with individualised gear and abilities, so customisation is encouraged. On the other hand, the game actually benefits from complex, varied terrain layouts, so players experience a positive feedback loop when they notice how the terrain they make enhances the atmosphere, gameplay and narrative, unlike in whfv, where a dozen pieces of terrain is often enough for most players.It really is more style than subterranean at times, it's also some of the best fun I've had with the Warhammer song and miniature gaming in general.
>>98725024Wrong thread
>>98725032I don't give a shit about AoS but WFB is still canon to it and vice versa. I'm pissed off because the ancestor gods are a bunch of inbreds in WFB by extension
>>98725046About as canon as blood bowl
>>98720415Would anyone know where I can find the Mighty Empires 2007 edition ruleset? Me and my friends want to play it at our club and we have the tiles but not the book. Tried looking through the archive but couldn't find it in there, and the only one I can find is the old 1990's complex ruleset.
>>98725024Did gazul exist exclusively in wfrp?Also, if we're taking aos stuff as retroactive retcons to fantasy then hashut is also sibling with grugni, grimnir and valaya, hashut may also have had a daughter with valaya, and aos said that the gender ratio of dwarfs moves towards 1:1 when magic flows particularly strong (which in hindsight makes sense in a race made for antimagic: population booms in reaction to greater amounts of magic, lower populations when there's less magic to oppose)
>>98725024Gazul has been a thing in the background lore for aos for a while now.That being said, the way hashut was handled in aos was kind of a very clear break with whfb ancestor god and chaos dwarf lore. It can't really happen if we take whfb into account, so in the aos universe all that shit must be retconned. In tow chaos dwarfs are of course still a thing with all their hashut worship. I think this represent the biggest "break" in continuity between whfb/tow and aos so far.Anyway aos doesn't have the dwarf gender ratio or sibling sharing shit in the first place. I don't know if valaya, grimnir and grungni have ever been explicitely called each other's siblings there either. Nor have their kids been mentioned. Grungni does have some demigod kids running around but they're not valaya's, or at least they've never been mentioned as such. We'll find out a lot more once the new tome comes out since ancestor gods are a major theme.But as for your last point no, not really, gw is not going to constrain itself by ancient rpg supplements for new lore written for a new ip, even if that one is *supposed* to be a continuation. Vice versa any aos lore does not immediately imply a change in whfb lore.Honestly as a fan of both I think it's best for both settings to kind of stand on their own feet without having to worry about the implications of lore for one on the other. Long term I'd want them to be separate universes entirely honestly, with maybe some overlap in the same way fantasy and 40k had.
>>98725079>Did gazul exist exclusively in wfrp?yes, and only in WFRP1 stuff not produced by GW that was never canon until recently>aos said that the gender ratio of dwarfs moves towards 1:1where is this from? pretty sure dwarfs having a lower female birth rate than male is WFRP exclusive
>>98725024>he dwarf wife sharingthought that was in Grudge Lore,rather than Lords of Stone and Steel.I don't think it's referenced in the recent book he did for WFRP4e
>>98725252I’m pretty sure that is in army books
>>98725260Which one? The Dwarfs had a lot of those and I can't really see Nigel Stillman writing that
>go to /wfg/ to share my latest game vs dark elves>half the thread is dwarf incest and wife sharing discussion>pic related
>>98725367Post it! The more games we post the less space there is for dwarf polycules
>>98725119>where is this from?these are from the 2nd and 3rd ed battletomes
>>98725367It's made up trash like end times, ignore it.
>>98725114>It can't really happen if we take whfb into account, so in the aos universe all that shit must be retconned.I'm sure there are many possible ways that mend the apparent inconsistencies other than flat out considering everything as retconned out of existence.
>>9872538710/10 would invite your lads into my hold for drinking and gobi throwing.
What are you working on?I'm finishing up the sculpting on the helmets for these custom knights for my Renegade Crowns armySince they're not "proper" knights and more like armoured thugs on horseback, I felt it fitting they have a wyvern rather than a dragon for their symbol (also fits their geography)
>750pt battlemarch in an escalation league>High Elves vs Dark Elves16 Sea Guard with a saphery noble as general10 Swordmasters with a L2 illusion mage of saphery with silvery wand9 Sisters of Averlorn with ruby ring of ruin.VsDarkshards and sorceressDark ridersCold one KnightsDark master on cold oneHydra>Turn 1 goes to high elves who whiff or get dispelled on everything but glittering robes on the swordmasters. >Dark elves unleash hell with a 36" range fireball from around the corner deleting 6 sisters of averlorn. Darkshards kill 2 seaguard.>Turn 2 Seaguard kill one of the hydra's handlers in shooting, remaining sisters whiff on cold ones with bows but the ring fries 3 Dark riders to a crisp. Impassible column manages to go off!Opponent dispells the column anyway on his Turn but then rolls boxcars for leadership on the cold ones making them stupid. Opponent blunders hard and moves his darkshards up closer so he can get a better dispel against my wizard. Darkshards and sorc kill a few seaguard.>Turn 3March swordmasters into 1" of the cold ones as it was a 11" charge clearing the way for the sisters of averlorn reposition to shoot the darkshards. It's a disaster! Dark elf archers get toasted! Only one archer and the sorc survive! But wait, the seaguard! 4 wounds! Oh, wound allocation shenanigans. 3 are forcibly assigned to one darkshard and only one hits the sorceress. Less exciting.
>>98725504Lizardmen. Two of the Start Collecting Seraphon boxes, for all the Cold One cav, proper Saurus Warriors and not one but two Carnosaur kits. Also a box of Skinks and I will probably buy the upcoming Stegodon two pack AoS is releasing and slap them on squares.
>>98725504A chaos champion of nurgle. Will try a new technique by making a beard from cotton once I've painted the model.
>>98725504Just opened a box of boar boys. Won't have time to put them together until next week though.
>>98725504Slowly working on my Dragon Ogres.
>>98725558I quite like drsgon ogres, they're very conan coded and cool
>>98725412Genuinely how? He appears as an ancestor god in the early period of age of sigmar, with the other gods treating him as an equal until he spergs out and falls to chaos. The other gods include thorgrim and grombrindal, and at least in grombrindal's case he remembers whfb prerfectly well.
>>98725535Looking nice so far anonIs that meant to be a beak or a proboscis mouth?
>>98725512>T3 continuesSorc hides, hydra terror bombs the seaguard. Cold one Knights get a 1" charge. Dark riders get the flank of the swordmasters.No wound allocation shenanigans or LoS in melee. My wizard is moderately unhappy but at least they're hitting on 4/5 thanks to glittering robes.Oh what's that? Cold ones and the knights/lord have full rerolls to hit built in? And reroll 1s to wound? Is this 40k? How many points are these assholes? And the mounts make them t4 and give 2 instead of one attack? My overpriced dragon princes are rolling in their graves but life goes on.My wizard doesn't die but whiffs doppleganger even with the reroll so I lose combat by 2. Give ground because elf leadership isn't ass. Opponent now has control over a heretofore irrelevant strategic point that gives his dudes frenzy which apparently works on follow-ups so yay frenzied still full rerolling cold one Knights for round 2 of combat!>Turn 4Sea Guard recover and reform so they can snipe the lone sorceress and prepare for the unavoidable hydra charge. We premeasured so we knew the sorc couldn't be hit by the sisters.Sisters try to hurt the hydra. Not sure if it was these guys or the Sea Guard earlier who actually got the first handler killed. End result is the same.Swordmasters take a big L since followup is pain.Cold ones charge the sisters but overrun off the board.Hydra charges the SeaGuardRemember how characters get 0 protection and can be targeted in melee? Here is where I learn that beast handlers can move around, single out models by abusing their own base to base contact, and oh, are completely untargettable in combat. Fucking dark elves. As usual, rerolls because that's the dark elf thing. It's unpleasant but somehow the hydra whiffs pretty hard and loses to static combat res. My seaguard pursue to wipe it>Turn 5Sea Guard are the only thing on the table. They move to the middle objective Cold ones return but can't charge>Game endResults: close enough to draw
>>98725631>Genuinely how?The simplest possibility is that the ancestor gods gave him a second chance and tried to welcome him back into the fold in the early age of myth.After all early aos was full of unlikely alliances like the pantheon of order forming ties with gorkamorka and nagash.They all went through an apocalypse, they all had to rebuild from scratch in a land of greater dangers, their people needed all the help they could get.And his renegade past also creates a better context as to why there would be strained relations and doubtful expectations that would devolve back into a second falling out.Just one option amongst others though.
>>98725504I slowly work on my dragon. Both work and personal life leave me drained by the end of the day lately.
>>98725504not working on anything right now but here's last TG I painted
>>98720621I know hobbyists who use pinning and they're all cowards, every one of them.I own chaos ogres and metal spawn and obliterators who are held together by nothing but a thin line of super glue and bravery.
>>98725974Understandable anon.Looking great! Love the black.
>>98725830Thing is he's a (minor) chaos god in whfb already, how's he back to being a normal ancestor god in aos' time?Also come on ancestor gods giving a literal chaos god a "second chance"? Gorkamorka and nagash are elemental deities in aos, tied to the winds, an alliance with them is still a far cry from one with the guys responsible for the first world going kaboom.Also purely narratively hashut being an ancestor god that falls to chaos ...twice is just kind of boring.
>>98726034I owned metal deff dreads and killa kanz as a childWords cannot describe the frustration of trying to have those fucking things hold together without pinning
>>98725504This is everything assembled so farJust need to build a captain and then try to smash out as much painting as possible before a small friendly battle march tournament. Gonna try to at least have everything basecoated and can upgrade it from there.
>>98726059>Thing is he's a (minor) chaos god in whfb alreadyThat's debatable, I sayHis dwarfs worshipped him, he granted gifts, magical and physical, but otherwise he isn't that much difference from how he is in aos, his dwarf followers are.
>>98725636It's meant to be a plague doctor mask.
>>98726153That also makes sense anon
>>98726103Very cool anon.
>>98725504Today I also varnished this unit of border princes brigands. Too bad I didn't have any fitting shields or bucklers lying around my bits box for strict WYSIWYG.
I wish the rest of the Dwarf gods had a rune of their own as well.
>>98723741Pinheads have some cool figures, lothern sea guard look good. But the big problem is really that most of their infantry look like shit. The fact dark elf infantry were all so much newer, looked much better, and GW still didn't bring them back for some stupid reason (It's not even to do with AOS, because they removed all their units from AOS except, like, doomfire warlocks and witch elves). Helf units look like the purposefully retarded looking plastic empire troops, but they're meant to be elves who are full of grace and all that.Although the lothern sea guard champion on GW's site has this bent sword. They really don't give a shit, do they?
>>98722251That cursed city ogre is pretty kino, tbf. Feels like an update of the badlands ogres. If I knew how to digitally sculpt I'd make ogres based on him.
>>98726437Only spearmen and archers look like ass, swordmasters, white lions, sisters of avelorn and phoenix guard all look great despite their age
>>98726472Yeah they do. I really just meant spearmen and archers honestly. I should've specified core infantry
>>98726480Oh that's fair, my bad. I honestly expect these two kits to get a refresh sooner than later, they bring the entire army down
>>98725535Update on the champion. Will do the drybrushing tomorrow.
>>98726438Agreed, would look good in a dogs of war style army.
Looking back Alessio killed WHFB when he wrote 6th ed skaven.
>>98726029Awesome colors, anon
Redpill me on Mousillon
>>98725387An absolute pleasure seeing a Kraka Drak banner. I'm too much of a pussy to paint mine...
>>98726742Feels too oversized, unfortunately.Also too recognisable as a power fist.
Is there a (buyable) Nagash model? He looks cool in TW:W.
>>98726756That's why it's funny.
>>98726762yeah?
>>98726764I think it's funny enough even if a bit muted
>>98720415Why is he so short?
>>98726838booooring
New greenskins when? It's our turn to shine
>>98726363I'm guessing that the top three represent the big 3 Ancestor-gods, Grungni, Grimnir and Valeya. But the other 4 are for who?
>>98726742
>>98726988
>>98727004
>>98726955Presumably, the other WFB/WFRP Ancestor Gods: Gazul, Morgrim, Thungi and Smednir
why was the white dwarf black.
>>98727029if you're talking about this picture, the whole dwarf has a dark palette, the point is making the beard stand out, he's not black.
I need that tiger bitch to get a model already Gw can’t fucking tease my balls like this
>>98727069He looks like a negro
Finished my last few chorf warriors and their banner.
>>98727120And the lamassu. Which means my army's now complete.
98727110/v/ermin and their consequences
>>98727118No he doesnt and it's sad that your mind goes to oogaboogas so easily.
>>98726955This >>98727012 It's the other lesser gods (excluding Skavor I guess).By the way, here's a quick guessing 'game'. Can anyone tell what picrel means?
>>98727146Skavor was probably too dumb to write or read, maybe
>>98726742Looks like AoSlop
>>98727110Punga minis
>>98727069>Some troon on the Warhammer team paints a single model in a slightly dark skin tone"NoOOOooO, they're putting negroes in my VVHITE EVROPEAN empire, they want to erase me, they want to replace us, the VVEST has fallennNnN :(">The white dwarf is depicted as black skinned in a classic artwork "NoOOooOoooo, he's not black, he's actually Aryan, but muh dark palette and mug contrast, I swear warhams was always free of nigsssSSss"Truly an amusing community we have.
>>98727146>picrelThat's Karak Zorn. No-one would have guessed that dude.
>>98727146Am I going insane or is this loss
>>98727222Dwarfs are Jewish anyway, swarthiness is fine
>>98727269Correct. Yeah, I suppose it was a bit too hard right of the bat.>>98727282Nah, those are the Dorf symbols for Karak (mountain) and Zorn (upland plateau/high meadow).Here's another, and this one is quite known.
Norsca peak
>>98727127>the lammasu has a braided beard tooHow many people get killed or maimed in the process?
>>98727628It needs multuiple foreskin for every knot.
>>98727628Why would anyone get maimed or killed? It's an intelligent being.
>>98727222You're not fooling anyone, faggot.
>>98727671it's owned by the chaos dwarfs who want it to be aggressive and aggressive, and likely cared for by disposable slaves
>>98725389thanks anon!
>>98727293No they aren't. We have already gone over this in this thread. Dwarves have zero references to Jews or Jewish culture, you're just repeating something you saw on reddit
>>98727822Dwarves are Jewish per Tolkien, so GW's dwarfs a Jews a generation removed (and apparently from Yorkshire) even if GW don't realise or choosoe to acknowlege it.Also AoS dwarfs just got fucking golems, Warhammer dwarfs are more Jewish than they've ever been. Sell your army and start collecting High Elves if you wanna cry on /pol/ about it
>>98727822they're called 'dwarfs' in warhammer, secondary-kun.
>>98727798No. They are used by sorcerers who prize their intelligence and magical abilities. They're weak as fuck in combat. Neither the sorcerer nor the mount want to be aggressive.
>>98727856>What the fuck did you say, you little antisemite?>Those are NOT Golems!
>>98727628no people are harmed, only about 20 slaves.
>>98727856>Dwarves are Jewish per TolkienSource: I made it up. Tolkien explicitly states that his dwarves are directly inspired from the dwarves Germanic folklore and myth. Literally nothing about Tolkiens dwarves are Jewish or resembling Judaism or Jewish culture either. You are retarded
Would having a fanmade Nippon faction having masterforged swords that are the strongest blades in the world (but their armor smithing is way worse) be too much "glorious Nippon steel folded 1000 times"?
>>98727934>Source: I made it up.Not only are you disingenuous, but an idiot as well.>https://voca.ro/1jqVZ2qQMigS
>>98727934Cursory GoogleYou're a retard anon
>>98727940>Would having a fanmade Nippon faction having masterforged swords that are the strongest blades in the world (but their armor smithing is way worse) be too much "glorious Nippon steel folded 1000 times"?Doesn't a Vampire in the Endtimes literally say that while wielding a Nippon Katana, and then he dies instantly?
>>98727956It's actually you that's being disingenuous by posting an out of context clip. >Interviewer asks if the dwarves were inspired by Jews>tolkien admits there are many attributes about the Jews that are similar to dwarves (your clip) and goes on to describe his admiration for biblical Israelite society>he then explain for the dwarves are inspired by Germanic folklore But I'm sure you already know this, you perfidious kike
>>98727978Similar to is not the same as based upon or the exact same.
>>98727978You are retarded holy kek. He said dwarves are like aliens in their lands and speak funny accents, outsiders like Jews in Europe.. not that dwarves are literally Jews hahahah sometimes I forget there is a 50% chance the person I'm arguing with have an IQ below 100
>>98728004Or an IDF agent working overtime.
>>98728006in a /tg/ general?
>>98727934Dwarves in folklore weren't even clearly delineated from dark elves, and in Germanic folklore used later for Wagner and the like, they made extremely obvious parallels between Jews and Dwarves like Alberich. Eddic dwarves were often treacherous, transactional, deeply greedy, and vindictive, male dwarves are seen as lusting after human women, they were seen as causing disease to the point of people carving charms to ward them off... I mean, c'mon.
To be fair in discworld the dwarves are definitely jews.
>>98727993Well a sharp sword doesn't really save you from getting crushed or shot or anything
>>98728017Tolkien was not using Wagnerian folklore, but classical myth you stooge
>>98728032I'll try to find the bit about the katana tomorrow since i did have it saved somewhere
>>98727994Ahh, now I know for certain that you're fucking with me on purpose.Here's the entire interview to dispel your delusions, and give all the context you need>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEQ0qbUA-eo&t=561s
>>98728042Yeah that's why I listed 'Eddic dwarves' AKA classical myth, you know... the poetic Edda? The disease-causing wasn't from Wagner, it was from actual vikings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_Fakenham_plaque
Another finished model for my fledgling Hobogblin Khanate. May I present my version of Kiknik, Ogi. And his best friend, Roosta. My favourite little retard and his (likely) demonic chicken."Ogi is…still an odd one. That all the other Hobgoblins (and the western greenskins) can agree on. No amount of spoils earned or glory gained can hide how he often trips over his own two left feet, and that he only ever keeps his back straight when riding Roosta (who he has rather long and regular conversations with), or that he seems incapable of speaking below a dull roar even when quiet is commanded, but nobody can deny that Ogi has grown to be quite the vicious little raider and his warband has risen to become the most successful of the New Khanate’ roving forces.""Ogi can’t read a map. But he doesn’t need to; Roosta always knows the way. He just needs to sit tall and hold on and everything will be alright.""At least...that's what Roosta says."
elfbros of the general, what are (you)r thoughts on the cytharai-cadai dichotomy/concept?
>>98728317My thoughts?
>>98728301I love him. Great model and fluff blurb.
>>98728340>tom of finlandMan tuomas got into some stuff before he was at GW
How Kislev would look if GW wasn't ran by effeminate cowards.
>>98728941Nobody cares, Karen.
>if GW wasn't ran by effeminate cowards Kislev would be lame and gay
>>98728655My Kislev
>>98728954Rules are rules, Sloppper.
So how do new releases that are FOMO work? I'd like the discount but I'm not sure how I can get it from a LGS with FOMO active
>>98729004So fucking based
>>98729004It's a pretty cool aesthetic for sure.
>>98729156Yeah, it's quite different from what we see, yet it's all there.
>>98729172I've a 3d printed army for the grand duchy of Moscow, though I would need more cavalry for it to be more historically accurate, as right now I've only the heavy boyar cavalry, streltsi and dismounted boyars.
>>98729186Nice. They do look like asiatic Cathaphracts (even if they sorta were already)
>>98729206Thanks. I think these guys are based on a display piece which is in the Moscow Kremlin armoury. From what I've gathered barding was very rare in the 16th century because they mainly fought against Tatars on the steppe.
>>98727184see>>98726988
>>98728655Looks like shit.
>>98727994Tolkien was such a tremendous faggot. It's fitting that his legacy has been completely and utterly jew'd.
>>98728655>>98729004>>98729156>>98729172>>98729225I'm eagerly waiting for bears and ice and icebears if this is the alternative
>>98727940>>98728032Here's the bit about the Vampire with the Katana
>>98729593Tastelet detected.
>>98729598
>>98727306Wazzok!
>>98727940You can say they're amongst the best swords in the world, but you can't say they're the best.Never say anything is the best in the world, never give power scale faggots an inch.
>>98728008The heebs have to take what they can get at this point.
>>98729607Bingo! That's it.
>>98720438The first book is considered under powered.The second book is considered over powered.
>>98725024So is this the new strategy then, try to pretend that longstanding, utterly uncontroversial Dwarf lore is "cuck stuff" rather than bog-standard mythology and arranged marriage nonsense to boil the frog and excuse why half the eventual Dwarf refresh range are women? Or just the usual seething spergery by anti-WFRPanon?Either way, piss off eh.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/g7lisprl/warriors-of-chaos-armies-fresh-from-the-studio/
>>98730181They're allowed to showcase "aos models" in tow now?
>>98730181I understand that these articles are 100% pure advertising for the new models, but I think it's a shame that, since 2012, all the studio armies exclusively use "modern" miniatures. During the days of 7th and 8th (and earlier, naturally), White Dwarf, the catalogues, and other such publications still had the old metal minis hanging around for battle reports, army pictures, and so on. Now, it seems like GW desperately wants to avoid the really old stuff that they don't sell anymore. It's perfectly logical, but it makes me sad.
>>98730164Nta, but dwarves have enough controversial stuff in their lore to make people polarized on them. Between the botched attempts to make them feel alien but ultimately just making them really dumb humans, the whole “we don’t use wood” grim derpness and other 40kisims. Anyways I don’t think anyone is trying to excuse there for being dwarf women in fantasy. As far as I’m aware, AOS has had something like the whole krogan genophage thing from mass effecf but for dwaves cured by the mcguffin that was the shroud tower which upped the fertility rates of the species affected. It’s something that’s entirely isolated in AOS, in short, and would likely never affect fantasy.
>>98730181I really don’t like the new chaos warrior models ranked up. They look like a mess.
>>98730224All they need is some ghyran magic.
>>98730236Oh great, that’s on the table now with cathayans
>>98730190It's on a legal base for TOW so it's porbably fine
>>98730190The giant?
>>98730193The previous TOW one had a BM army made only of metal slayers, those wouldn't be called "modern" in any sense of the word
>>98730293>round base disgusting...
>>98730228I also find they're difficult to rank up.>increase base size to avoid old problem with ranking up>increase model size to fill up new space>reintroduce old problem
Thingken about my next army being all metal made of classic sculpts, but I'm scared. Scared of chipping, bending, etc.
>>98730302Objective markers are always on round bases anon
>>98730312Make it a chaos warriors army and keep the armor and weapons in the colour of the unpainted metal.
>>98730293I stand corrected. Neat!
Bretonnia supremacy.
>>98730312I am currently being forced to learn how to varnish to seal my metal minis. I don’t like it but it’s forcing me to learn which overall is good.
>>98730329>>98720415>>Threads policy:>Bot-made and bot-edited images are banned from the thread and to be reported as the off-topic trolling spam they are.
>>98730329That’s not how boobs work
>>98730329>>98726882 >>98726882 >>98726882
>>98730368Depends on how tight the band is
How many coats of brush on varnish do you use and do you thin the varnish with a bit of water?
>>98730224You sound like you gained your understanding of Dwarfs from a youtube memelore video. I beg you to read a fucking book.
>>98730433Between 2 and 3 coats of gloss varnish, depending on how often I think I'll be bringing the model to games. I always thin it a fair bit with water, helps it flow better.
>>98730312Prime wellPaint them while they're blu-tac'd to the top of a paint bottle or other handle to minimise manual handlingVarnish and seal them - first gloss (durability) then either satin or matt (kill the shine)Put strong magnets underneath and use magnetic movement trays
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/g7lisprl/warriors-of-chaos-armies-fresh-from-the-studio/I hate to be a frown clown but I do feel the studio army showcases are thoroughly mediocre these days.Compare these armies to those you used to see in "A tale of four wargamers" articles in white dwarfs of yore, and there was so much more personality and richness to the armies presented, whereas this new stuff is just very stock standard models with little (if any) conversions, hit with contrast paint and narey even a highlight.Also, what is with that one tard Quinn painting half his marauder faces with dark skin? They're literally northmen clad in furs with a raven on the banner, not southlandic melaniggas baked in the sun
>>98730572Quinn always does that. I am assuming it’s because Quinn is an evil tranny (Quinn is a very tranny coded name)
>>98730576I'm kinda surprised Dave didn't add black paint schemes to his models, since he put them in his Brettnoia one.I'm not sure this colour scheme works either; maybe if it were mostly steel with brass trim
>>98729611oh that's a good ideayeah fucking hate powerscalers, they jerk off 40K (and Fantasy too to a lesser extent) like nutslike the Vs Battles wiki saying the Rat Ogre is "multi city block level"
>>98722773Nah.Fuck dwarfs
Which dwarf models (any era) look most like those on the left in this art?
>>98722773As a Dwarf player I encourage just about anything to add more flavor to the army. Bring back stuff from 6/6revised and 8th in terms of Runes, rules and wargear! The stacking 1-3 runes of the same type and getting extra effects is something I very much miss.
>>98730841Probably the 6th edition onesThe ones after that have chainmail yes, but it has an leather edging to it not shown in the art
>>98730841Probably the 3rd ed sculpts
>>98730853>I love flavor!>the flavor:>stacking buffsEvery time
>>98730921The fact that 3x Rune of X did not just add X, but depending on how many you had added Y or Z was a nice little bonus. I also want more stuff, new armies of infamy and regiments/concepts pulled from the past and revisited.
>>98730909Man scale really has crept since ancient days huh
>>98726721Kek
>>98730572>I hate to be a frown clown
>>98730938The new King and Thanes look pretty bad, honestly. The design cues are there, but they do not look correct when compared to old sculpts.
>>98730938It is indeed a sad thing to see Dwarfs slowly become the size of Umgi, baka.
After playing I’ve come to the realization that gw has no ability to make a decent wargame.
>>98731033ToW is pretty good, great even.
>>98731033The joy is as much in painting and converting and having all the customisation options
>>98731033MESBG is a good game. TOW is decent, a bit clunky at times. A lot depends on who you play with. But the game is almost an afterthought to painting and modeling.
>>98731033They used to
>>98731051stop spamming slop
>>98731051>>98720415>>98730364
>>98731107Thats... not how 4chan works? You don't just get to make up thread rules lol
>>98731092>>98731107What are these reddit karens even doing here. That's such a feminine bitch behavior it reminds me of HOAs lol
>>98731151Whoever makes the thread is allowed to make the rules for the thread, tourist.
>>98731186Again, that's not how 4chan works. If it doesn't violate the global rules mods and jannies don't give a fuck. It just has to stay on topic.
>>98731192Not true. A lot of porn boards had to adopt a similar stance between the rampant futa posting and AI slop posting. You can catch bans for posting slop in non-slop threads. As you should. Slop is like smoking. Do it in the comfort of your own house, let it destroy your brain but keep it from healthy people.
>>98731207That's because those are off topic to the thread in question, not because its AI.Again, you can't just make up your own rules.
>>98731231Have you considered posting your slop in the slop general instead? Slop Syndrome is as bad as Vegans.
>>98731033You've just now come to this conclusion? GW games have always been shit, but it's only got increasingly worse with time because it's now just a product instead of a passion for the designers. The og GW guys were at least passionate about wargaming even if they were amateur rules writers. The most interesting thing about GW rules is how they flat out refuse to update archaic and poorly designed mechanics, especially in 40k. The excuse is that the players will revolt, but they have no problem fucking up beloved well established lore which players are passionate about, and they already constantly change the rules each edition, lastly we all know that no matter what rule changes they make the players will just accept it anyways. Therefore the only conclusion we could make is that they don't fix in the poor and unfun rules in Warhammer for no other reason that sheer incompetence and a complete ignorance of what makes a good game. When Richard Clarke writes the amazing and critically acclaimed WW2 ruleset Chain of Command, he is drawing on decades of experience in the wargaming industry and references and takes ideas from dozens of WW2 rulesets he has played and read, and a massive amount of research and passion for WW2 and wargaming in general. When GW writes 40k 11th edition or TOW, the only thing they reference is the previous edition that came before it, which itself only references the edition before it. It becomes a copy of a copy of a copy, etc. in addition to the fact that the average GW rules writer has zero experience in anything outside of Warhammer, so has no where else to draw ideas and inspiration from. >>98731067MESBG is a decent game by wargaming standards, an exceptional game by GW game standards
>>98731265Did you really reply to yourself with a wall of text? Talking about how GW is only able to reference itself while samefagging
>>98731316>reply to yourself Take your meds
>>98720878>demigod of the most powerful pantheon, worshipped by men and elves alike>accomplish... literally nothingBoring waifubait character. Whatever the opposite of a Mary Sue is, she is. Faildaughter.
>>98722222That dreadlord and the nu-Ogre Bodyguard are fukken sick. The bottom two suck pingas and are much more typical of dying tranny game models' style.
>>98731051Fucking subhuman slopper gtfo
>>98731316He is more or less objectively correct. I notice that whenever you can't refute or counterpoint what someone says you just accuse of samefagging
>>98731386>back of chair isn't anywhere close to where it should beAt least post well drawn stuff anon
>>98727222>wekys homo
>>98730228>tasteless slob has a tasteless slob opinionWow
>>98720415I just came here to say that AoS did irreparable damage to the ease and comfort of buying WFB models. Any search for Warhammer Fantasy, WFB, or even The Old World always includes dumb AoS shit and old models remounted on round bases. Before it was always wading through a pond of shit to find a gem but now it's like spelunking on shit planet and everything is roundbased anyway.
>>98731406Older editions have a lot of technically really bad art. They corrected that eventually by hiring artists like Kopinski but it didn't last long.
>>98731186lmao, OP is a fag.
>>98731461Yeah that Cathay shit is awful
>>98731487Yeah that too. Just tons of fucking second hand Cathay that the fake fan basedboys fawned over. "Of course we need China-pandering nufaction that was a footnote meant to evoke mystery!" Only to drop them and saturate the market. Fucking hate it.
>>98730938I'm pretty convinced that the new khazalid heroes for AoS were made as part of an original batch with the recent dwarf heroes for TOW because they look so similar
>>98731461Some second-hand market websites will let you filter extremely specifically so you won't see any non-WFB models. Troll Trader, for example, lets you filter by game, range, material, etc. Including "oldhammer" or "midhammer" in your search might also help. As for models that are on round bases, it's pretty sad, but you can always see it as rescuing them and putting them on the correct bases.
>>98729606I look like that and I say that
>>98731515>As for models that are on round bases, it's pretty sad, but you can always see it as rescuing them and putting them on the correct bases.Yeah I've considered that because round based armies tend to be better painted for some reason. But they want upwards of $1,500 for those lots. So instead of avoiding hobby labor I'm paying more to do extra hobby labor
